The Carcass Demon From Doom Eternal Explained | Why does this exist? Did it need to? | Morphology
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- The Carcass Demon in Doom Eternal is one that is fairly interesting as its really more of a warning. Its body is less functional than you may believe and apart form area denial, it is extremely weak. So why was it created then? We will discuss that in this episode!
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Ahhh its good to get back to some demons! Now that we have more content in the Doom Universe, expect more! Thanks for watching guys!
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Glad to see you doing more DOOM videos Roanoke
Its simple why they are fighting each other.
RIP AND TEAR!!!! RIP AND TEAR!!!
Roanoke Gaming: "But that's gonna about wrap up the Carcass"
Ancient Egyptians: *Heavy breathing*
This joke deserves more recognition
At first i thought this was some Carcass and Nile joke.
Genius
woosh for me what's the joke
@@THEOGJIGSAWGMOD mummies. Ancient egyptians wrapped mummified corpses up in cloth
"Why are the demons actually battling each other?"
They're demons. From Hell nonetheless. They represent the most vile characteristics found in mortals. They can only be coerced into working as a team through intimidation from their masters.
StoopidAnimul I prefer the term “mortally challenged”.
@@oogabooga3477 That's Satanophobic!
@StoopidAnimul your one of them mortally chaloenged aren't you. (I pump shotgun). "BFG division plays" lol
@@oogabooga3477 also Morally challenged.
Plus they have a social system where the stronger pick on the weak
He exists only to make the slayer more angry, if that’s even possible
Your dummy thicc doppio has me confused
I thought that's marauder's job.
Carcass with normal humans: *actually does his job and degrades their minds*
Carcass with Slayer: *pisses him off more so he can end their suffering quicker*
@@emperorfaiz the marauder is only dangerous when he's backed up with aggressive demons like Hell knights. Or Area Denial creatures like the Cyber Mancubus from my experience
@@retrorezzie1746 you mean taras nabad?
That title startled a laugh out of me. “Why does this exist?” That’s a real good question
To freak you out.
Just to suffer
And the answer is: Because fuck you!
To act as a nod to Quake. The Doom Hunter is to the Strogg Tank while the Carcass is to the Strogg Medic.
What if...
The next Doom game features a Makron-like demon?
Maybe to increase content, but what do I know.
Demons fought each other in the original doom games as well. I think it’s simply in line with the lore of hell all together. Things like camaraderie, friendship, kindness and peace or all “godly” and hell is the total absence of that. It makes the game that much cooler IMO to be following that fundamental. There’s no kinship or peace in any of these demons.
In the original DOOM, the enemies would attack each other only if one of them hit accidentally hit the other.
You know while I was playing doom eternal the mecha-zombie, zombie solider, arachnatron, tyrant, and mancubus I would always see them fighting each other and idk why I typed this. I just wanted to I guess
@@asais1024 Idk if that's true
@@NickWright Infighting is a very important mechanic to exploit in the original Doom and Doom 2. Maps like "Gotcha!" are famous for infighting.
Sadly, while infighting does take place in 2016 and Eternal, it's scripted and the demons do not actually ever damage each other-- They'll fight forever if left alone or until the Slayer gets near.
@@aircraftcarrierwo-class
I swear in Roanoke's Doom 2016 imp video one of the imps killed the other one with a fireball, he didn't fire a single bullet at it.
It says in the lore of the games that the demons love to fight each other and that the possessed soldier have a small portion of there original military training against the demons so it’s more like there in a state of limbo half in control but being pupated around by the higher forms of demon life and even hells own consciousness since it was said In the first game that argent energy had a genetic code that it imprinted on to the genetic code of a living creature so the are very much being controlled but have a small form of independence
I was thinking the same thing and was bracing myself for typing the comment, but you beat me to it and I appreciate it good Sir. I salute ye'
Ah beat me to the punch also they fight to get stronger, kill or die.
Thank you my good boys and also you can’t just shoot a hole into mars
Pretty much. Interestingly, though, this usually only happens to Fodder Demons, implying that the stronger and more intelligent ones can better recognize and adhere to Hell's hierarchy.
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"I DO NOT GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO DIE, PRIVATE!"
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honestly can we appreciate the fact that id puts enough thought into the design of the demons for people to do entire biology lectures on each one
And Eternal is honestly the ONLY game I've been in love with since Ace Combat 3 back in the 90s. You can tell that everyone in the team gave it their 100%.
doom designs always slap
Yesss the doom biology lessons start finally, been waiting since the game came out
Damn right!
he has a few doom vids already :D
Its lit!
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I think the demons are constantly fighting for dominance. The weakest often gang up on the stronger, if my guess is right. In game i mostly see demons fighting the fodder, or possessed demons. Maybe they are viewed as inferior, so they are killed off if not useful?
Your theory would make alot of sense for what Hell is all about, Atomicwinter 31.
And plenty of higher tier Demons torture and intimidate others into line as slave masters, implying that lower ranked Demons are more feral and prone to attacking each other and those above them. Meanwhile, said higher ranked Demons tend to follow the hierarchy of Hell more strictly, falling in line without question.
I like to imagine infected or affected humans by argent energy go off their instincts which was to fight off non humans before they died.
Or the humans before they died there emotions affected the conversion
Atomicwinter 31 At one part in 2016 when you first see a baron its fighting a bunch of zombies and imps, it says in a codex that higher up demons hate imps, and kill low tier demons
@@BigDaddy-je2nq The strong prey on the weak, no exceptions. Even the denizens of Hell themselves adhere to this when no mortals are around.
Doom Eternal adds more demon types...
Roanoke: *YES, THIS IS GOOD*
I wonder if the Carcass’s “handheld” arm was engineered to be stretched and goopy or its arm just kinda melted over with the cannon’s heat
Well skin doesn't really melt from heat, being organic tissue it's more likely to burn if exposed to large amounts of heat then to melt like that.
@@SampoPaalanen then again,in 2016,the argent wave melted the UAC guards to their weapons too
Perhaps argent heat is different than normal heat
@@lordofshades9852 The way I understood that it's not so much melting as uncontrolled growth aka the skin didn't turn (semi-)liquid and flow over the guns but rather it turned cancerous and grew to fuse with the guns, that said ionizing radiation or some acids can cause skin to melt but infrared (aka heat) isn't ionizing in fact the reason skin doesn't normally melt is that ignition point of the skin is lower then its melting point meaning the skin will start to burn sooner then it will star to melt in a location that's habitable for humans.
@@SampoPaalanen ah,neat,so that means revanents basically have super bone cancer?
Me: *rips and tears the demons*
Carcass: *puts its shield in my way*
Me: *So you have chosen... death*
THAT ONE! THERE! HE BROKE MY GROOVE! *proceeds to immediately dump over 9000 gigatons of ordnance on the clueless carcass*
Yeah Carcasses are the most annoying assholes in the game the don't protect they annoy
Xander Zone I call him fat Ba$tard. If I see him first, he dies quickly.
Again
Best glory kill on the Carcass is just kicking him off his own legs
Gets me every time
Nah, it's when you twist his neck like it's a merry-go-round
@@jerkycow1777 nope best one is when you stab its tank and it spins around before popping like a gory firework its the only good thing to come out of these shit stains
I personally noticed only one type of enemy fighting with other demons - that is being possessed soldiers. In every pre-made demon/demon encounter they are always taking one of the sides. I had 3 theories on why that exactly happens:
1) Demons don't actually see the difference between killing a possessed soldier or the one still living (Mb even in a
hierarchy way, rather than physical one).
2) Perhaps, somewhat human in those soldiers is still there. They remember that recently they fought demons, and even tho argent energy controls them, they still have some ability to resist it (First thing comes in mind are those explosives necromorphs with giant hand-blobs. They also could resist the marker somewhat to warn others by screaming). Now, why haven't 2016's soldiers fought demons? I believe that Eternal's soldiers were exposed to Lazarus' waves in much lower state, considering how much they still resemble humans, while 2016's are kinda melted meat golems at this point. Also, that might mean with less exposure, comes less influence on their minds.
3) Last one, my favorite, they were turned just in the middle of the fight and kinda kept on by momentum.
That's a good theory, but its also that a lot of demons like to pick on lower demons like fodder as well, and well soldiers are also fodder so it might also all of that
@@theunholyadventurer2376 I mean the codex entry for pinkys is that they are literally food for higher demons
I've seen Revenants and Mancubus fight as well
@@jamesdino1388 In Eternal or in 2016? Cuz in 2016 it was most likely due to them being pretty new to the bunch and having kinda "New kid in class" outcast reputation.
well from my play through, i’ve seen cyber zombies fight with soldiers, a mancubus vs imps, a hell knight and imps, possessed zombies vs soldiers, and the mecha hell knights(the fuckers with blades for hands) fight gargoyle and imps. i think they just fight each other like, as many comments have said, the demons are foul creatures that represent the worst traits of anyone. so it would make sense that they wouldn’t care and kill each other/eat each other (i.e. cacodemons eating imps in lore)
Kind of realized that deag ranak was (in his entry) involved in the Mars attack, so he could’ve been involved in making the revenant, weaponizing the mancubus for the cyber-mancubus, resurrecting the bahlaar cyberdemon as he did very similar work with the carcass and doomhunter. It might be a fair assumption to assume that most “cyborg demons” we see have been engineered by deag ranak
Given the fact Ranak finest work it’s the Doom Hunter which it’s an amalgamation of cybernetics and demonic biology, yes he kinda designed-created all the demons augmented with cybernetics, included the Whiplash
The demon infighting, aside from being a staple of Doom enemy AI from the early games, likely happens ingame because the Hell Priests were the ones controlling the demonic hordes, and since the Slayer kills the priests one-by-one through the campaign, the demons don’t have any coordination and just kill each other out of boredom, lmao
"Demons are made from sentient beings tortured in hell until they can't take it anymore. Their soul then gets extracted and they wander the planes of hell until they turn into the creatures we fight today... except for the ones that turn when snorting Argent Energy".
"why are the daemons fighting each other" they could asks us the same question
I mean they fight each other for the same reason we do primal instinct
"why are the demons battling each other?"
Talking about the infighting in the original games, John Romero said that it makes since the demons would fight each other too, since they are pure evil with no morals, cooperation is not something that they consider unless presented with a more urgent threat.
I have a few other name ideas for your “handheld”.
Aggressive reach
Bad grab
Violence distributor
Fire stick
Aggressive distancing
Throw tube
BOOM STICK
Why'd he call it "handheld" though? What does handheld mean?
Metal bead yeeter
Boom tube
Fun note about the carcass, of you shoot its legs with a sawed off shotgun it’s body will occasionally separate from the legs and it will crawl back onto legs to continue fighting
"No! I must kill the demons" he shouted
The radio said "No, John. You are the demons"
And then John was a carcass.
Repercussions of Evil is the best damn Doom story ever told
Nice reference
Poor John, demoted from zombie to carcass.
Don't bother trying to be family friendly. doom eternal is likely just blacklisted by the algorithm no matter what you say.
Nah, I got ads on this video
@@ItsRawdraft2 TH-cam can still put ads on your videos but not give the creator ad revenue.
They made redditors into a demon in doom
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kek
You just roasted them hard
I have two points:
- On the Carcass creation: given the extensive damage and, honestly, hack job done to the human parts i woudlnt be surprised if this is actually just a corpse reanimated. They probably have some lesser demons or Robots dedicated to picking up what remains of human corpses after (or during) a battle and then staple those bodies together with robotics to created a creature that could probably be taken down by a half decent soldier but its there just as a distraction and demoralizing human soldiers. All for a cheap price.
- About the demons fighting themselves: given how hyper aggressive 99% of demons are and the fact we are placed after the great human vs demon war were Humanity is pushed to its last legs. The infighting is due to Demon behavior.
The battle was essentially over (before that pesky Doomslayer ruin it all), humans are hiding more than fighting so some demons just get bored and start beating smaller demons, the smaller ones fight back and its suddenly it turns into a children playground.
Reminds me of the Orks from Warhammer who are just as likely to attack each other as anyone else.
Now all we need is to replace "argent energy" with "waaaaagh!" and toss in some DoW barks.
Infighting of demons was a feature in first Doom games. It's just simply because they're evil, violent creatures, that fight each other for dominance. It was awesome to see return of that aspect.
The first idea that came to mind for me when i saw demons fighting one another is that you only see the "corrupted" demons fighting "native" demons, basically what i believe is happening is that the "native" demons still view the "corrupted" ones as enemies, or view them as impure/not "real" demons. A good example is how you can find imps fighting possessed soldiers on the first level or how you can sometimes find revenants fighting manccubi in certain hell levels.
Just a tip, you can turn off the highlight on staggered enemies to get a better look at them without the flashing lights.
1:05 “What is the Carcass?”
*A disgusting pain in the ass.*
I think the Carcass was a fascinating addition to the roster of enemy types in Doom Eternal. A sort of support unit while pretty much every other demon is offensive to some degree or another. However, I would like to point out something you missed regarding the subject:
the longer the icon of sin is on earth the strong it will become.
"Why do the Demons Fight each other?"
Well the reason is - in tHell, the demons of Doom act more like creatures in an ecosystem, with the weaker bois at the bottom of the food chain and the stronger ones up at the top - not only that, but higher ranking demons often fought the lesser ones for sport.
In the games, the demons have terraformed Earth so much that when not in combat, they are likely slowly reverting back to their more natural "Demon eat demon" ways now
The longer the icon of sin is on earth the more powerful he will become
Hahaha
The longer the icon of sin is on earth the more powerful he will become
@Corvo@AZ *The longer the icon of sin is on earth the more powerful he will become
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"Look daddy, thats a servitor!"
Karkas is my least favorite enemy. Always dropping them energy shields in front of heavys that i was about to glory kill
Daniel Raynor it’s the point of them to annoy you and still I freaking hate it
Can't tell you how many times I've fired a rocket or launched a grenade just for a shield to catch it and explode in my face. Fuck this guy
I have died several times because this fuck keeps putting shields in front of me, letting everything else catch up and kill me. It doesn't even need LoS either.
4:06
A Gears of War reference in a Doom video, two of my favorite franchises for gore
huh
why are you here
One of the best "Starting with the Feet" moments on this channel not gonna lie
the real reason why the demons fight each other is a reference to the original games, if you made one demon hit another they start fighting each other.
I do like that the carcass is both made for gameplay purposes but also has a very classic revenant backstory. I’m sort of the mind that the cultist and the UAC were basically Frankensteining human corpses together to get these things out in mass
Aww yeah, more Doom lads.
I think I said something about it like year ago, but is Bloodborne still something we might potentially see on the channel?
This is my favorite new demon. They way it moves around is so creepy. I remember first seeing it from the Stadia video and I was obsessed.
“Why does it exist?” I feel like a lot of things on this channel have this question aimed at them.
Your definitely right about the scuttling, first time I saw the carcass move I was instantly creeped out and uncomfortable. Every time I see one it becomes priority one to make them stop moving.
I think the reason the demons keep fighting each other is because while they're united under the goal of killing the slayer, they still have vague memories of what they once were.
So, the demonized soldiers fighting the imps makes more sense because that's what they were doing before they fell.
Yes thank you. I've been looking forward to this. Good job
It would have been better if the cultists preserved some of the original human's brain. This would lead to even more demoralization as they scream for their friends and family and talk to the soldiers they are trying to kill
That would be too dramatic. It doesn't fit in a game like Doom
"Johnson"
"Yes sir?"
"You see that soldiers corpse?"
"Yea are we gonna use it as food for the demons or-"
*"Turn it into a robot"*
There's a third option regarding that spurting fluid coming out: it could be partially decomposed, myoglobin-rich muscle tissue that's been broken down to the point where it's liquefied. *shudders*
Slurp
In your mr X video, you should've mentioned his extreme regenerative abilities. It isn't stated in the game, but as there is only 1 Mr.X as stated by Capcom, it can be assumed that he is able to survive extreme injuries such as him almost being cleaved in half by G2 William.
Great stuff! I'm glad you're doing doom demons again. If you go into mission select you can turn on Photo mode, which should help with filming more of these horrible abominations
I love your Doom Morphology videos! I recently got into the series and ordered Doom 2016 a little while ago, but sadly it’s taking forever to get here. I don’t wanna watch too much direct game footage because of spoilers, so watching your videos and learning about all the demons has been super fun and is really helping with the wait. Looking forward to seeing more of these!
so you enjoying eternal man? For your infighting question its actually very common in dooms version of hell for demons to be fighting each other the demons are very aggressive to everything even to each other that is except when the slayer arrives which is their common enemy.
CANNOT wait for more demon morphology, especially on some of the revamps!
Oh hell yeah! So hyped for more vids on Doom! Thank you! Hope you are doing well
This is such an amazing analysis, you made it very interesting, far surpassed what was expected, well done!!
DOOM Eternal was so god damn good honestly. Everything I wanted/expected and more. Totally improved upon 2016 which was already VERY VERY good.
I disagree, think the ammo micromanagement, was unbearable. I couldn't enjoy the game while consistently running out of ammo. I also dont want to have to constantly have to melee everything. Wanna shoot shit.
@@Thekentuckyrebel There's an infinite ammo cheat though.
@@astorcastoroftherose Chainsaw is fine, having to chainsaw every few seconds sucks because they reduced the ammo from Doom 2016. Was the snark necessary?
Doom Eternal IS good, not was. And to the ammo whiners, Doom 2016 was like playing with infinite ammo cheat code on. Doom Eternal is challenging and has a very satisfying game loop, provided the player knows what he is doing and is able to learn from mistakes. It's called a thinking man's shooter for a reason.
@@akuskus the game is good but I said was because I beat it like 5 days after launch.
Doomslayer vs the covenant, or the UNSC (with the spartans) vs Doom's demonic incursions video would be great.
*"Mortality challenged"*
Thanks for being entertaining, informative. I've always thought on the details of the beast in video games and movies and you do an excellent job explaining it
This is... exceptionally detailed. I'm impressed, honestly.
1:55. I was wondering why I thought I saw him at McDonald's.
The idea of these things existed for the sole reason of causing fear in their enemies makes them terrifying
I just called these things Fat Bois!
I prefer 'Those fat fucking cunts'
I just call em 'Morbidly Obese Fucktards'
@@thisguy1640 Thats a wierd way to say Mancubus
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Just wanna let you know Roanoke. I think your content is amazing and super entertaining, thank you for making your stuff and though I cant be a patron I wish I could. Your channel is fantastic.
I’ve noticed that human turned demons fight the actual demons and I think that’s why they fight
What?
To answer 2:18
1: So that the demons are doing something other than standing around until the slayer shows up.
2: Id didn't want to add human soldiers to fight the demons when they would only show up 3-4 times in very brief scenes so they improvised for the few elevator sections in the game and just used possessed soldiers.
3: Argent energy isn't a binding force. It's more like how water works in the real world. We all require water to live but as we clearly know from all of human history it doesn't stop us from killing eachother.
I imagine they serve a similar purpose to the husks in mass effect
I'd love to see a video where you take an in depth look at all the returning demons and how their appearances have changed
*(HEAVY METAL IN THE BACKGROUND!!!)*
5:32 I think the tattoo really reads “UB-ID 22”
You know I have an idea
Idk if this might be interesting to you
But there's a monster in subnautica called the Reaper Leviathan
I'm Curious if you could do a video on it one day
It’s an interesting support demon with an easy counter. I like it gameplay wise
So
The spider demon has a bones in it's brain explain that please
Maybe it's not brain, but body that looks like one?
The Arachnatron's brain is exposed, so it makes sense for why there are bones there.
direct source of calcium for the brain #science
Roanoke: only by severing the body from his cybernetic implants
Slayer: ahahah headbutt go bonk
Yes thank god ive been waiting for you to start the series back up
Papa Roanoke back at it again with the demons
The 2016 doom videos are what got me into your videos, now i watch em all, good to see more doom
12:06 is a beautiful freeze frame
Since the cultist base mass produces these kinds of demons, I always thought the tattoo was some sort of serial number to help organize production
Fun fact the Carcass is a literal dead body on a machine. In a way given new life. Also you probably should listen to the sounds they make like carcasses and pain elementals can laugh while the arch-vile will question why.
YESSSSSSSSS! I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG MY MAN FOR THIS TO RETURN!!!!
The phrase "UB-ID 22◼️" actually appears multiple times as wall decals in the Arc complex, which also happens to be a former UAC base or UAC-funded facility. The first instance I can think of is after you destroy the tentacles and cross the inside the entrance to Samuel's tower. My guess is that is just a decal preset and has no lore significance whatsoever.
I don’t think you understand how long I’ve been waiting for this
This is a really neat monster design, and this video has a lot of neat words, this was neat
Super hyped for Master Chief vs Marauder
The demons constantly fight each other because they're all individuals, but they have to obey their leaders. The Hell Priests and a few other figures can break up fights and have them charge against the forces of humanity, but with nothing better to do they either wander or end up breaking out in fights. They also all hate the Slayer enough to drop it when he's around.
As for the carcass serving no purpose other than demoralization, it also does have some helpful capabilities to their forces - due to its frail structure from partial decomposition, its role as a ranged support to the front line of the demonic hoard is quite smart. Of course, that also makes it a priority target, as its shields are quite effective at negating fire and providing cover for demons to move in from.
Final thing is that you missed a few glory kills, but most involve either other destruction of the head or separation of various parts of the engine from the head, both of which would work. One kill is simply ripping off the metal arm from its left side and stabbing it through the lower section of the head, not sure if that one is accurate and should kill it or not.
Ah yes, the one line that Baird said I’m Gears 3 that got me super into learning about animal behavioral patterns, epic and cool
This video was awesome I'm excited to see more Doom Eternal content
Your videos inspired me so much that next year, a freshman in college, I'm majoring in Biology and Physiology! As well as teaching because you make learning about...everything so much fun! I want to spread that! (Even if I'm not teaching about super cool video game mutations :/)
Awesome video, Roanoke! I can't wait for more Doom Eternal videos, possibly on The Doom Hunter, Whiplash, Dread Knight etc...
I hardly ever used the plasma gun in Doom2016 so having this enemy is welcome to remind me I still have energy ammo.
As a fan of Quake2 however, I feel the design of the carcass looks more like Strogg than a demon.
roanoke: why are demons always fighting each other?
me: it's a fight for dominance over terrain
2:22 mainly due to primal urges the hell priest unify the demons for a common cause ... it could also be there humanity showing and there will to continue the fight no matter how it ends but the first is the better idea
I can’t wait to see more anatomy videos on demons
My theory on why demons fight each other is because it is part of their suffering (spoiler for end-game lore), since demons are derived from human souls as well as Argent energy, and in fighting is only part of their torment. In addition to the information we have in your video on the Mancubus, (2016 variant), their stomach does not digest nor can it defacate, leaving their eatings to rot in their stomach, causing frequent ruptures of its stomach, or used as fuel for its canons, which are overgrowths of armor; its own evolution torments it.
TLDR: Demons fight each other because it adds to their suffering in hell as former human beings and it comes naturally when they are demons. Another observation is the demons from hell seem to fight more frequently with corrupted humans, or man made demons, like yours truly the Carcas, and the Revenant. (Remember the UAC Spokesperson talking about seeing JEssica to sign up for the Revenant Program in 2016)
In one of the earliest versions of doom games the developers discovered a sequence of code that caused mobs to infight. They liked the idea of the enemies fighting each other so they incorporated this in future games.
Me while playing the game: "Shields! Oh get over here you bloated clown!"
Me after watching this: "These things are horrifying!"
Quick thing I'd love to see explained, on the Super Gore Nest level, there's a screen saying there's a Contagious Disease quarantine in effect. I'd like to have that explained at some point because... Yeah, I got nothing.
A nice return to form. Good one Roanoke
This fella is a love it or hate it enemy. The love it being he basically saves you from incoming demon attacks with his shields but the hate it is he makes you look stupid when you take out your rocket launcher and he shoots out a shield the moment you fire which could lead you to take damage or die