Arch Vile from DOOM Eternal Origins Explained | Why the Archvile is Different from the Summoner

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  • One of the few demons considered to be a "super heavy" unit is known as the Arch Vile. This demon has the control over Argent energy to the point that it can open up micro portals for individual demons and spawn them in at will to attack humans, night sentinels, the doom slayer. Whatever it wants. It also possesses the ability to control said demons and subjugate them. The question is then, where does this creature come from and why it is endowed with this ability? Well lets discuss that in todays episode shall we?
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  • @calibvr
    @calibvr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +982

    "oh wait, the demons are the trapped ones"

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      Yah love to see it

    • @angzarrpsyco
      @angzarrpsyco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@RoanokeGaming Demons: WE HAVE YOU OUTNUMBERED 4 TRILLION TO 1
      Doom Slayer: "I like those odds"

    • @averagerobert8211
      @averagerobert8211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That's what is called ..... a pro gamer move

    • @Choco-pg7cl
      @Choco-pg7cl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Always has been

    • @kitsukage9
      @kitsukage9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@angzarrpsyco Doomslayer: "Wait, only 4 trillion? Haha, this is gonna be a walk in the park; try 100 times that next time."

  • @J_u_a_n
    @J_u_a_n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1321

    As a great man has once said,
    “I have yet to meet someone who can outsmart bullet”

  • @thatguywesmaranan
    @thatguywesmaranan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    "i'm not locked in here with you... you're locked in here with me..."

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Doom slayer can actually back it up too, ya love to see it

    • @clydepate2785
      @clydepate2785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      the Watchmen quote that'll never get old!

    • @vincentcampbell6671
      @vincentcampbell6671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The watchman reference

    • @juanjoyaborja.3054
      @juanjoyaborja.3054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@clydepate2785 Thank you for telling the reference

  • @FernandoThegreat
    @FernandoThegreat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +776

    “As they walked across the plains of Africa”
    *winces in anticipation of meme*
    Doesn’t happen
    “Oh thank god”

    • @caseykeller4713
      @caseykeller4713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      i walked the plaaaains down in aaaffricaaaa

    • @justsomeguywithaplan971
      @justsomeguywithaplan971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I BLESS THE RAINS DOWN IN AFRICA

    • @quinnzyker6521
      @quinnzyker6521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I GUESSED IT RAINS DOWN IN AAAAAAAFRICAAAAA

    • @MinhNguyen-ue5ct
      @MinhNguyen-ue5ct 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      i really thought people were gonna do the return to monke meme.

    • @justanotherinquisitor7962
      @justanotherinquisitor7962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Good day Bruddah, *clonk* *clonk* Do you know da whey?

  • @nobleman9393
    @nobleman9393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +547

    Demons: Thanks for helping us destroy humanity, how much do we owe you?
    Me: Nothing, It's for free.
    Demons: FREE!?

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      Come on, atleast like a cheeseburger or something

    • @Gebunator
      @Gebunator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Or password to Hell Wifi?

    • @American-knight-hawk
      @American-knight-hawk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Gebunator 🤣

    • @embodying8moth82
      @embodying8moth82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I would do it for a Lego Deathstar

    • @American-knight-hawk
      @American-knight-hawk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@embodying8moth82 that’s worth it

  • @kielbasamage
    @kielbasamage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +657

    "What would it take for you to sell out your-"
    One dollar.

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      About right!

    • @kabob0077
      @kabob0077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      The moment someone dies screaming "Leeroy Jenkins" I will launch a V2 and wipe out the human race.

    • @TheDigitalApple
      @TheDigitalApple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I’ll be like Mr. Krabs and do it for 62 cents!

    • @theluftwaffle1
      @theluftwaffle1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      What would you doo~oo~oo for a Klondike bar?

    • @johnshirayuki
      @johnshirayuki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@kabob0077 someones already done it. we may not of heard them but someones already done it o3o

  • @roberthull2578
    @roberthull2578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +400

    Wait... haven’t we seen a male maykr? There was one who welcomed the Doom Slayer into Night Sentinel city. He had tentacle legs! Also, the Seraphim had tentacle legs too.

    • @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495
      @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They’re the same Maykr.

    • @roberthull2578
      @roberthull2578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 No, these are two different ones. I am referring to the unknown male maykr angel who greets the Slayer when he finally teleports to sentinel prime. It was in the cutscene.

    • @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495
      @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@roberthull2578
      Oh.

    • @backlash6436
      @backlash6436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Archvilles are one of the ancient demons that were originally apart of jekad

    • @sealishmain4331
      @sealishmain4331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@roberthull2578 yea that's samuel hayden

  • @rheinbewachen1211
    @rheinbewachen1211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    The archviles probably came up with the doom slayer’s name after seeing his terrifying might.

  • @minecraftia7626
    @minecraftia7626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +687

    Can you make a video on the MonsterVerse TItans (Godzilla, King Kong, Ghidorah, ect...)?

    • @thatonespoon__777
      @thatonespoon__777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yes

    • @lawsonemerson8894
      @lawsonemerson8894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I too, yes

    • @noahjester8471
      @noahjester8471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Also, skull island and its various critters

    • @benny_lemon5123
      @benny_lemon5123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes! That would make a very cool video or series

    • @juanisol8275
      @juanisol8275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes!! Explain scylla, behemot,mathusalen or even mutos anatomy and phisiology too!! 👏😍👍

  • @Jackaboy2802
    @Jackaboy2802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +353

    Roanoke gos to the doctors the doc says where’s it hurt Roanoke takes a deep breathe and says “ starting with the FEET!!!”

    • @Onibyron
      @Onibyron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well deserved.

    • @reaI_
      @reaI_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LAMO

  • @LazyVideosGAME
    @LazyVideosGAME 3 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    id: "Alright, let's create a monster that looks cool."
    Roanoke: "Lemme invent some background information based on the aesthetics to make sense of it."
    Love it!

    • @hungryalien8494
      @hungryalien8494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      id watching the video : Write that down ! Write that down !

    • @512TheWolf512
      @512TheWolf512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      i am absolutely sure that id were not doing things at random

    • @LazyVideosGAME
      @LazyVideosGAME 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@512TheWolf512 Really? I didn't think of that. I thought they were bumbling fools that didn't know what they were doing and that I was absolutely serious with my comment and not joking aaaaaat aaaaaaall. ;)

    • @juanjoyaborja.3054
      @juanjoyaborja.3054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@512TheWolf512 Of course. The archvile has some actual lore

  • @koboldfan3238
    @koboldfan3238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Makes sense that the Arch Vile would be scared of the Doom Slayer, as its mighty flame wall can get destroyed by a simple punch.

  • @shaunconnally4794
    @shaunconnally4794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Roanoke: "what would it take for you to sell out your species?"
    Me: at this point, not a lot really

    • @American-knight-hawk
      @American-knight-hawk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Understandable

    • @jackmakila3776
      @jackmakila3776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      To be honest id sell us out for allien hand/claw/tentacle job and an exosuit

    • @wmdkitty
      @wmdkitty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same. Let the aliens have a go at improving things.

    • @vinny5638
      @vinny5638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jackmakila3776 you are a scholar, and a gentleman.

    • @WonkyTonkBotty
      @WonkyTonkBotty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

  • @edwardsternberg8224
    @edwardsternberg8224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Hey Roanoke, one thing I want to point out is that you do see a male Maykr, The Seraphim or Samur Maykr. On the wiki itself you can see his model with him having both arms and the tentacle things

    • @tonts5329
      @tonts5329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Are we sure that the Seraphs and the regular Makyr's are one in the same? I got the Impression that Makyr's are maybe more like a genus with multiple strains of the species, divided into specific roles/castes. You have the Khan Makyr's which are the biggest members of the species seen so far. Then the Seraphs and Samur Makyr the Seraphim who are a caste of Makyr's entrusted to guard the Sanctum and assist anyone who is worthy of using it. Then the Makyr Angels and their Demonic Counterparts the Blood Angels, who seem to act as soldiers and representatives of the Makyr's based on the one you see in Sentinel prime. Lastly there are the Makyr Drones, which seem to be the lowest caste and possibly change naturally or conditioned to evolve into the other forms of Sentinel.
      Also interesting to note, was the Angel on Argent D'nur/Sentinel Prime had a helmet/headpiece reminiscent of the 2016 Summoner. I know Roanoke keeps saying there's no connection and maybe their isn't.

    • @WackRusDud
      @WackRusDud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Don't forget Maykr angel (the thing that greets you ("welcome home, great Slayer") once you start the Sentinel Prime level (he doesn't seem to have legs)

    • @edwardsternberg8224
      @edwardsternberg8224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tonts5329 honestly mate, it's hard to say. We are overanalysing the fuck out of a video game. I personally think the Samur and the Angel are male Maykrs, but I could be wrong. The Khan is also made differently from the others, as they were meant to be the special leaders and stuff, so that could factor in as well. But again, no idea for certain.

    • @WackRusDud
      @WackRusDud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@edwardsternberg8224 he is correct BTW. (They are a hive-mind-like species with different roles and shit.
      As of genders... They do have them (Would've been otherwise If it weren't for Khan Maykr) However - they cannot reproduce)

    • @justjoking5841
      @justjoking5841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why the Khan Maykr have boobies? :3

  • @RoanokeGaming
    @RoanokeGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Thanks for watching yall! Let me know what you thought, also dont forget to drop some ridiculous plot hole movies you would like to see me cover and I shall begin writing the down! yall have a good weekend!
    Edit: So everyone is bringing up how the Arch-viles are related to ancient demons. Well the Maykrs have been around for quite some time. Is it not possible they are in fact apart of the Maykr race? Idk man, considering the Maykrs appear to have kicked this thing off, seems like it could work that way to me

    • @arthurmorgan5887
      @arthurmorgan5887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hey @Roanoke Gaming do you think you cover the Xenomorph from The alien series?

    • @denifnaf5874
      @denifnaf5874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Both the cacaodemon and the pain elemantal are females, i saw their behinds in 1994 doom 2

    • @thegreatjay1245
      @thegreatjay1245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Do the biology of the transformers

    • @hds477
      @hds477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Brute halo vs hellknight bang got em

    • @hds477
      @hds477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thegreatjay1245 I agree with this statement

  • @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495
    @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Samur Maykr, the Seraphim, has tentacle legs and he is undoubtly male, not to mention the Maykr that speaks to Doomslayer when he arrives on Sentinel Prime. Both have tentacle legs.

  • @bigimp3018
    @bigimp3018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    "Summoners aren't in doom eternal"
    *Ancient gods part 1 would like to know your location*

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Death but whatever, they are suffering the Doom Slayer again

    • @arunkumarbalakrishnan8423
      @arunkumarbalakrishnan8423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Spirits aren't really summoners though. They share the same character model, but they're completely different in terms of AI and attack design.

    • @LuLurret
      @LuLurret 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@arunkumarbalakrishnan8423 Codex entry says that they are basically summoners too angry to die.

    • @blitz8645
      @blitz8645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, you're here

    • @bigimp3018
      @bigimp3018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blitz8645 I'm able to teleport in every doom comment section

  • @zombie9865
    @zombie9865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Wait, isn't the seraphim/Dr. Hayden male? He didn't have legs when he got his body back.

    • @tullyashmorebaner8461
      @tullyashmorebaner8461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I didn't think about that.

    • @AlbertusSalvatierra
      @AlbertusSalvatierra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      He is. A lot of hjs theories/ideas completely contradict the lore as well as basic observations

    • @polylyly849
      @polylyly849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I guess that the seraphs may be different from the rest or something

    • @AlbertusSalvatierra
      @AlbertusSalvatierra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@polylyly849 The only difference is that they serve the Father and not the Kahn. They are still Maykrs- except they are not bound by the Kahn Maykr. They have free will but ultimately serve the Father.

    • @polylyly849
      @polylyly849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlbertusSalvatierra Yeah fair enough

  • @tajmahall1622
    @tajmahall1622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Doomguy: looks at archvile
    Doomguy: looks back at crucible

  • @the_vietcong_man_
    @the_vietcong_man_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I will have to object your theory that the Arch-Viles are corrupted Maykrs.
    The codex of the Arch-Vile states that they are direct descendants of the eldest race of demons, and Hell/Jekad were not known to the Maykrs (excluding Samur Maykr), therefore, chronology: Arch-Viles cannot be Maykrs.
    But hey, I’m just a random ass elite

    • @nos8141
      @nos8141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      yes...i think he does not know.
      Pretty sure demons like tyrant and archville are "true" demons, and did not come from somewhere else.

  • @AlbertusSalvatierra
    @AlbertusSalvatierra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    Maykrs don’t become the Whiplash demons. The Whiplash demons are their own species that were corrupted by the Dark Lord and now live within the Dark Realm. And Archviles are native to Jekkad/Hell, so they can’t be Maykrs.
    The only confirmed females of the Maykr race are the Kahn Maykr and Blood Maykrs. We don’t quite know about the Drones, as they could be genderless. But we have met male Maykrs- like the Maykr Angel on Sentinel Prime and Samur Maykr aka The Seraphim.
    Also, every Maykr possesses tentacles, regardless of their sex or rank.
    When the Seraphim became transfigured, he looked like the Kahn Maykr without her mask, and the Seraphim wasn’t exposed to hell energy. So I don’t think her unpleasant facial features were due to Hell Corruption.
    Great video! But a lot of your points/ theories completely contradict the lore.

    • @rachellethompson5131
      @rachellethompson5131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ur iq =1000000000000000000000

    • @carelesscorpse3556
      @carelesscorpse3556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yea the videos theory is interesting but very much contradicts the canon lore
      I prefer the "imps are juvenile archviles" theory

    • @whereskentuckybruce8245
      @whereskentuckybruce8245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@carelesscorpse3556 The archviles are said to be the ancestors of the first demons so the imps could be a species which evolved or was bred from the archviles for disposable soldiers. Funnily it’s like a chimpanzee evolving from a human

    • @ForeverLaxx
      @ForeverLaxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nearly all of his videos can be summed up with two words: Confirmation Bias. He goes in with an idea, then just interprets what he sees in a way that fits with his idea. Actually looking things up to make sure his theory fits with known information never seems to be a step he ever takes in *any* of his "explained" videos.

    • @AlbertusSalvatierra
      @AlbertusSalvatierra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ForeverLaxx Then what’s the point about making theories on things that have been already established. There are already a few major topics that have yet to be explored 🤷‍♂️
      Like what’s considered a “realm,” the number of realms, the connection between Primevals/ life spheres and their respective realm. He could talk about this stuff instead 😂 Or with the fact that all Blood Maykrs are female, even when we’ve met a male Maykr Angel. This makes you think if the Blood Maykrs were similar to the Valkyries in Norse mythology. Or how about what Jekkad looked like before it’s down fall? Or some of the unexplored events within the series - or the unexplored regions, clans, and prominent figures mentioned once or twice in the Argenta codex.
      There’s literally so much else to talk about and yet he chooses to openly contradict things that’ve already been established 😂

  • @RH-mh5tp
    @RH-mh5tp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +283

    Cant wait for you to try and explain the “anatomy/present viruses” of lady demetrescu when resident evil 8 comes out 😏

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Looking forward to that as well! and Resident Evil 4 Remake!

    • @squidgiemctentacles5265
      @squidgiemctentacles5265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      *Starting with the feet~*

    • @TheDigitalApple
      @TheDigitalApple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      We all know by the time Roanoke will talk about the tall vampire lady, this time he won’t start with the feet 😏

    • @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
      @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      She's a perfected Tyrant
      I think
      Well
      But i have her final form saved so i know that it will be a hard episode for Roanoke

    • @TheDigitalApple
      @TheDigitalApple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 Give me that form, I’ll save it to my hat drive for..........reasons😏

  • @burningbronze7555
    @burningbronze7555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    the old gods part one has some kind of summoner spirit and it is unchanged mostly as far a looks go.

  • @farryn874
    @farryn874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    *The class staring at Roanoke* : "say it."
    *Roanoke* : sigh "Starting with the feet."

  • @oz88og40
    @oz88og40 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    These demons where tough at times

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      they can overwhelm you if you arnt careful!

    • @oz88og40
      @oz88og40 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RoanokeGaming true

  • @TheMBmulti
    @TheMBmulti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel like the Arch-Vile is a "Hell original" so to speak. In Doom there has always been a difference for me between the "Hell originals" (Demons born and raised in Hell, like the Imp, Hell Knight and Baron of Hell for example) and the "Modified demons" (Demons modified by the UAC and since Eternal also the Maykrs, like the Arachnotron, Mancubus and the Revenant for example). In Eternal the codex entry of the Arch-Vile also states that it was "forged from Hellfire" and "Descended from the eldest race of demons". So my head-canon is that the Arch-Vile is only a few ranks below the Dark Lord and kind of acts as a general on the battlefield.
    For the evolutionary route I feel like it can actually be linked to the Imp (much like the Summoner). The Arch-Vile has no metalic parts to its body, so it hasn't been modified in any way by the UAC. It also looks like any regular Imp, under the right cicumstances, can grow into an Arch-Vile. The Imp has many of the same spikes and body characteristics as the Arch-Vile has, combine that with the fact that both use fire, have similar hands and Imps change between walking on 4 and 2 legs/arms all the time I felt like when Hell required it, any imp could grow up to become an Arch-Vile (kind of like the queen of a beehive, any female bee could become a queen, but it only happens when certain conditions are met).
    Also the Prowler is like the perfect missing link between the Imp and the Arch-Vile, as it is basically a bigger Imp, has better understanding of Hell magic and can teleport around. So, growth wise it would go: Imp > Prowler > Arch-Vile. You could also go a bit further and say that Summoners are female versions of Arch-Viles, as they have the same origin and the only difference in their development into their later stages would be gender.
    Sorry for the rant, I just like thinking about this stuff too and have a love/hate relationship with Arch-Viles ever since Doom 2 :P

  • @thezambambo2184
    @thezambambo2184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    One thing I noticed that's just another nod to Archvile intelligence is that they don't show fear like an animal, roaring and screeching, they instead stare at you with a terrified expression in most glory kills
    Edit: Nevermind, I didn't watch the rest of that segment

    • @candacefullrv9291
      @candacefullrv9291 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The one where you sweep his feet out from under him and he gives the "Oh no" face is hilarious

  • @kabob0077
    @kabob0077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    1:13 Yeah, that sums up the Doom franchise in a few words.

  • @Just_Adrian_
    @Just_Adrian_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    What a vile video
    Also I would sell out humanity for cheeseburger

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Ya love to see it! also what about a beeschurger?

    • @Just_Adrian_
      @Just_Adrian_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@RoanokeGaming for that I would sell the entire solar system

    • @Formaly_Fredrick
      @Formaly_Fredrick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheemsburger

  • @BoopernautApAdams
    @BoopernautApAdams 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Roanoke, have you played ancient gods? They bring the summoners in in that, also, the Saraphem is a male maykr, that was confirmed.

  • @woottastic
    @woottastic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I thought makyrs ruled for 10k years and then voluntarily "died" so they could be reborn as the new makyr

  • @Fluffkitscripts
    @Fluffkitscripts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I can’t wait to hear your explanation for why arachnotron have ribcages inside their brains. That should be a hell of a puzzle!

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Davoth, making Hell creatures: Uhhh... Yeah that goes there.

  • @lightning7179
    @lightning7179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I was wondering about this one, it always seemed a curiosity to me

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Glad I could bring the info broham!

    • @lightning7179
      @lightning7179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, and wanna know whats ironic, I saw this notification after i died to a demon in metro exodus

    • @MINIYOGSCAST1
      @MINIYOGSCAST1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoanokeGaming I have an idea for a movie creature (its not dumb bio tho sorry) the movie is called viral and its about parasitic worms that take over people and turn them into zombies (yes I know the movie has the same basis of Back 4 Blood) any way I would really enjoy it if you would cover that movie please

    • @spacetacos7574
      @spacetacos7574 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This vid is also like the pain elemental one
      Where instead of the meat ball and pain elemental being shipped he’s shipping the archvile and whiplash

  • @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495
    @extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The summoners are in Doom Eternal’s DLC; they are the ghosts.

  • @OGXenos
    @OGXenos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Curiously, the Spider Mastermind and Arachnotrons also show fear when killed.

  • @cinnabon8343
    @cinnabon8343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I would sell out my species for like a 10 pc mcnugget meal

    • @skeletonnoise6178
      @skeletonnoise6178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would do it for a 4 piece

    • @cinnabon8343
      @cinnabon8343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skeletonnoise6178 But you get less nuggets

    • @skeletonnoise6178
      @skeletonnoise6178 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cinnabon8343 and you would sell us out for a 10 piece when you could ask for unlimited chicken McNuggets

    • @cinnabon8343
      @cinnabon8343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skeletonnoise6178 Well cause it's 10 nuggets and I won't live forever so 10 it is

    • @skeletonnoise6178
      @skeletonnoise6178 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cinnabon8343 One could finish that in 1 minute

  • @matushalks-8790
    @matushalks-8790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wasn't there a quote from the Doom Eternal bestiary that said that Imps actually mature intoo 2016 Summoners?

  • @botobop
    @botobop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Doesn’t the codex of the Archvile say they’re descendants of the dark lords?

  • @rexalley8397
    @rexalley8397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    About the summoner being an evolved imp thing, that is literally lore, like it’s explicitly stated they are a sub-species of imp

  • @daniroseheart620
    @daniroseheart620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    The Doom Slayer wasn’t trapped with the demons; the demons were trapped with the Slayer
    *Heavy metal plays as I get flashbacks to the Willy’s Wonderland trailer*

    • @beautifulmeeses
      @beautifulmeeses 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I honestly didn't think that was real until I saw nicholas cage. Then I knew I was real

    • @backlash6436
      @backlash6436 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you said this wrong

    • @daniroseheart620
      @daniroseheart620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@backlash6436 How was it actually said😅😅😅😅

    • @backlash6436
      @backlash6436 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daniroseheart620 I think it's the doom slayer wasn't trapped with the demons. the demons the demons were trapped with the slayer

    • @daniroseheart620
      @daniroseheart620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@backlash6436 Thank you

  • @masterzoroark6664
    @masterzoroark6664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    But then what about Hayden?
    He is a Maykyr.... And well he is he aka male.

    • @BanishedSilentShadow3318
      @BanishedSilentShadow3318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And we did see the other two males in the end of the Ancient gods part 1.
      My guess is due to evolution change when exposed to the Argent energy, though I ain't expert but maybe the male Maykr's have been exposed enough energy that their bodies changed with legs which is likely recent change since they don't necessarily use them as much since they can just teleport (even the running animation makes it look awkward like they just barely know how to run).
      so.. like with the female Maykr's I believe the same amount of Argent energy happened to them but their tentacle legs grew much longer to make them like a long serpent like tail. Maybe because they refuse to have legs like their male counterparts but who knows.

    • @masterzoroark6664
      @masterzoroark6664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BanishedSilentShadow3318
      I have some another idea- maybe the Meykyr dudes we meet in The Ancient Gods weren't mutated because they were needed for other purpose. Like, they were posted as guards of God and Satan orbs, that's why they didn't had the exposure

  • @artstrange3230
    @artstrange3230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Archie not only has this look of pure and unadultered fear, but the way his expression changes upon the realization that his time is at an end, as if, somehow, his life flashed before his eyes, is what sells it for me.

  • @kari548
    @kari548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Hey uhhh, that new Doom Eternal DLC includes the summoners

  • @BassMetal88
    @BassMetal88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hell consumed worlds before the current khan Maykr made the shitty deal with the dark lord. Different worlds and dimensions with different types of life have been consumed and as a side effect also helped create demons in some cases.

  • @jasperhopland8913
    @jasperhopland8913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I do have one problem with this theory, Samur is a guy, but he has no legs.

    • @alexandernoskov60
      @alexandernoskov60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Exactly. Not buying this one this time around.

    • @WilfNelson1
      @WilfNelson1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Given the samur problem I think you could probably argue that these are urdak gorillas. In fact to speculate widely, we are the first species with full self reflective consciousness on our planet but on urdak that might not be the case. The maykrs might be smart species 2.0 and the archviles are their 1.0, smart but still just a step up from apes

    • @jasperhopland8913
      @jasperhopland8913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WilfNelson1 I guess that works to.

    • @kefo3241
      @kefo3241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@WilfNelson1 Archies are descendants of the eldest demon race as stated by the lore. There no ways they could be a corrupted maykr since archies first appeared in doom 2 which takes place before the doom guy even alerted the maykrs to the demons existence.

    • @WilfNelson1
      @WilfNelson1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kefo3241 true that does make it tricky but it could be 1. Convergent evolution under hell energy and doom 2 archviles and doom eternal archviles came from different things or 2. Urdak is a very old civilisation and may have met demons before the current civilisation we meet with the khans is in place.
      Or 3 we are thinking about this way too hard and they brought back archviles because they wanted to and the art direction meant all baddies must share general spiky teeth and scary claws

  • @jamesdaviesanswers8751
    @jamesdaviesanswers8751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Roanoke what about The Seraphim? You fight him in the DLC and he has tentacles and not legs.

  • @fallendawn2846
    @fallendawn2846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The summoner is actually in doom eternal, in a way. They become the Spirits from the Ancient Gods

  • @WakeUpUniverse66
    @WakeUpUniverse66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    @6:36 Did Monkee need Jiggle physics? lmao

  • @DreamyAileen
    @DreamyAileen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There's just one tiny problem...we _have_ seen male Maykrs before, in the form of Maykr Angels and the Seraphim -- and none of them had legs either.
    I'm surprised you apparently forgot about the Seraphim. Maykr Angels I can understand because they're mostly just glorified set dressing, but the Seraphim...?
    Which brings me to my next question: have you played the DLC?

  • @Lovett1701
    @Lovett1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I estimated that the Khan maykr's hight is around 33 feet or so. The doom slayer is 6' 8" and the Khan maykr's about 5 slayers. 6 x 5 = 30, 8 x 5 = 40, 40÷ 12 = 3.33. I really hope I did that correctly

  • @Hackettt
    @Hackettt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I don’t know if the xenomorph from the Alien films counts as a biological mess but it would be fun to see you discuss it. It’s lifecycle is wild.

  • @mercurioslevin1877
    @mercurioslevin1877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the only nagging thing about the Arch-Vile being maykr's is they were first seen in Doom 2 and Doom Eternal shows that the events of Doom 1/2 and Doom 64 are canon but it also shows that the Maykrs did not encounter demons or had assess to the hell dimension till AFTER Doomslayer had joined the ranks of Night Sentinels as they came to Argenta thru the very same portal that Doomslayer then just Doomguy whats thrown into in at the end of the new tie-in chapter added to Doom 64

  • @serina3872
    @serina3872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think the Seraphim puts a crack in connections to the Maykr because he is male and doesn't have legs
    Good video though

  • @alexahlers1577
    @alexahlers1577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I thought that all types of maykrs had tentacles since the maykr angels and the seraphs appear to be male and don’t have legs

    • @AlbertusSalvatierra
      @AlbertusSalvatierra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Your right. No offense to him, but most of his theories are wrong.

    • @alexahlers1577
      @alexahlers1577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlbertusSalvatierra yeah I know but they are good theories since demons and maykrs share a common ancestor.

    • @alexahlers1577
      @alexahlers1577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlbertusSalvatierra that and the maykrs can’t go to hell cause of the seal keeping them out.

    • @AlbertusSalvatierra
      @AlbertusSalvatierra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alexahlers1577 Oh yeah- the only thing they have in common is that they were created by the Father.

  • @rosiebelladonna8160
    @rosiebelladonna8160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the way he insults everyone way before they can insult him it just makes me think hes there with sunglasses on and a smirk like "heh always ten steps ahead of ya~" with someone looking angry at a computer screen lmao

  • @zzephyrenex5320
    @zzephyrenex5320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:25 uh....then explain why they appeared in the old Doom Games🤨 seeing as how the Maykr’s didn’t seem to know about the Demons until Doomguy arrived to the Sentinel world, and that the Maykrs all stayed more or less in Urdak

  • @OrangeTtop
    @OrangeTtop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ah, the arch vile. My favorite demon

    • @Supreme-Being-8
      @Supreme-Being-8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Favorite” is not a term I would use to describe them

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      2nd biggest nerd out of all the demons!

  • @ZTLGsmashultimate436
    @ZTLGsmashultimate436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:04 Doom Slayer: I am not trapped in a dimension full of demons.
    You all are trapped in here with me. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @LizardKingTF2Halo174
    @LizardKingTF2Halo174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I LOVE the pure terror and fear in the archvile's eyes. It's extremely immersive, and such a cool touch. It's like they're smart enough for their former self to show and, through expressions, say:
    "This is it. *He* has found me, defeated me, and I have failed to the highest degree."

  • @machmach6981
    @machmach6981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember the pain elemental looking fearful too before you stomp on it's eye, almost feel bad for it :

  • @MichusubPl
    @MichusubPl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    All I know about demons biology is "GUTS. HUGE GUTS" and i believe that's enough

  • @harrigan4162
    @harrigan4162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love your videos, but sometimes the codex of the game is directly contradictory to your evolutionary theories. Also the Archvile and Khan both look way bigger than 9 feet tall lol

  • @Jayboe1123
    @Jayboe1123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For the Khan Maykr, definitely not in the single digits in terms of feet. I'd say around 20

  • @oldishspicy6705
    @oldishspicy6705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    FINALLY! Was hoping you'd do this archphile soon!

  • @FlaShDominic
    @FlaShDominic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wait what is Samur then? He's a dude right? and he's much older than the Khan
    Maykr. He doesn't have legs even after his transfiguration.

    • @kefo3241
      @kefo3241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, we see other make maykrs that don’t have legs in eternal. And even before his transfiguration samur still didn’t have any legs.

  • @romancenturion1086
    @romancenturion1086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What Samuel Hayden? He was a male Khan yet had tentacles.

  • @chiefsenpai969
    @chiefsenpai969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:08 probably gonna be the most badass quote from Roanoke in this video

  • @connorring737
    @connorring737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This archvile looks like the original model they used to scan into the original doom

  • @xxxalphaeverythingxxx8489
    @xxxalphaeverythingxxx8489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This guy like like that English teacher who dives deep into a line of a poem about what the poet meant, how it affects the world, the philosophy behind it etc all while the poet simply wrote the things he randomly saw one day but in pretty words😂😂😂

  • @JohnCena-fp4qg
    @JohnCena-fp4qg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I like your theories, but I think they would be a lot better if you incorporated the lore on demons into account. It would lead to backstories that are more consistent with what we know in game

  • @robred123s
    @robred123s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you played the ancient gods dlc? It has some info that might change you opinion of the maykers, as a major character is a male mayker.. The summoner makes an appearance as spirits as well.

  • @dspectre3488
    @dspectre3488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the dlc, Summoners have shown to still be there, though in a more spectral form, driven by hatred. I don't think it was a art style change or anything like that.

  • @bryceflanner4989
    @bryceflanner4989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I sense Roanoke hasn't played the ancients gods part 1 yet

  • @mihailis6353
    @mihailis6353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is anyone going to tell him about seraphim?

  • @joebracken5463
    @joebracken5463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Roanoke, I know it may not be so much biology and probably less intresting for the masses but could we possibly get a video on the gore being used to cover hell and earth, soul extraction process like a more in depth explanation of what we saw at the start with those husks of humanity wiggling about

  • @lordkarasu2263
    @lordkarasu2263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doom slayer-*dies of old age*
    God-well you’re going to hell.
    Satan-excuse me!?
    Doom slayer-*aggressively cracking knuckles*

  • @altarofshadows
    @altarofshadows 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why not using Samuel/the seraphine has example of a male makyr?

  • @Kroododile553
    @Kroododile553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Seraphim doesn’t have legs either.

  • @Nekavandre
    @Nekavandre 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice use of the Halo 3: ODST music Roanoke. And as always great video. Thank you for your work friend.

  • @blightedcrowmain8236
    @blightedcrowmain8236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for covering my fav demon

  • @collingira2524
    @collingira2524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How about samur maykr, how would this equate to your hypothesis Roanoke?

  • @Numb_Diggers
    @Numb_Diggers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But sammy hayden... Is a maykr... He floats...

  • @DooougieDOOM
    @DooougieDOOM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    good video man, always enjoy watching!

  • @madslayer4197
    @madslayer4197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these videos, I don't even care that they directly contradict the lore they're still awesome

  • @gamerswemeetagain2613
    @gamerswemeetagain2613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Isn't the seraphim a male maykr?

  • @RockAndStoner445
    @RockAndStoner445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You watched teddy has a surgery

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      one of the most disturbingly interesting videos ive ever seen lol

  • @killerqueen6054
    @killerqueen6054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES! I’ve been waiting for this one

  • @dxclosingbowl6688
    @dxclosingbowl6688 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man i just found you channel today and its like game theory but its more about science and games i like

  • @Christian_Sims
    @Christian_Sims 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you do the Aliens and other Alien variants from the Alien franchise and expanded universe brotha?

  • @Flatcetera
    @Flatcetera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Yeah, keep calling your foot fetish a “meme”.

  • @blu3d3vil97
    @blu3d3vil97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One problem
    Samuel Hayden, the seraphim, is a male and has tentacles too
    same for the maykr angel we see befoe the gladiator fight
    Tho it doesnt mean it cant mutate into legs, especially if lets say they changed into dumber demons at first
    maybe they dropped down from genius flying maykrs to dumber demons that needed to walk, then slowly regained their intelect and abilities.

  • @scubanooch2713
    @scubanooch2713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude keep up the amazing work man love your videos

  • @thegreatjay1245
    @thegreatjay1245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Do the biology of the transformers

    • @bughuntwilson5937
      @bughuntwilson5937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "I am under the enemy scourtum"

    • @praetorianrex5571
      @praetorianrex5571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bughuntwilson5937 on a serious note, is there such thing as a Transformer equivalent of a lizard brain? While I don't think standard humanoid bots have them, the beasts probably might in order to operate their animal forms.

    • @bughuntwilson5937
      @bughuntwilson5937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@praetorianrex5571 I think grimlock g1 is the best example for this or grimlock war for cybertron when he enters beast forms

    • @praetorianrex5571
      @praetorianrex5571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bughuntwilson5937 I was thinking of Insecticons and Predacons. And this reminded me of something;
      When I watched TFP Beast Hunters and Predacons Rising, I think it was implied that, despite being native to Cybertron and having Sparks, Predacons were not a creation of Primus (if Unicrons calling Predaking a "primitive lifeform" is anything to go off of). This could mean the beasts were products of natural selection and chance rather than envisioned by Primus, much like actual animals following abiogenesis. This would also explain why Predacons didn't have not forms at first.

  • @Furydragonstormer
    @Furydragonstormer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel you may want to look at Samur in The Ancient Gods part 1 due to this. Mostly due to how he looks very similar to the Maykrs and was associated with them, so unless there is another reason then it's likely Arch Viles might not be male Maykrs but something else closely related.

    • @kefo3241
      @kefo3241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Archies are descendants of the eldest demon race as stated by the lore. There no ways they could be a corrupted maykr since archies first appeared in doom 2 which takes place before the doom guy even alerted the maykrs to the demons existence.

    • @GamingEelektross
      @GamingEelektross 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kefo3241 Jekad/Hell was the first world The Father himself created, but after Davoth was killed and kept within his life orb, Hell was sealed off and kept secret from all of the Maykrs save for a select few. The Maykrs relearned what Hell was when the Doom Marine told them about Hell and then the demons began their own invasion, at which point they had Argenta slaves build the Argent Energy factories.

    • @kefo3241
      @kefo3241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GamingEelektross I know, but jekkad was actually sealed away by the father long before davoth’s soul was ever ripped from his chest as is evident by these quotes from the codex.
      “Believing Jekkad rejected by their creator, hate grew within Davoth. Jekkad fell further into inequity as Davoth consumed all the realm in pursuit of his goals, and The Father sorrowfully sealed Jekkad away from the other realms.”
      “Foreseeing that Davoth's rule would ultimately grow to threaten all creation, and that Davoth would someday rise to challenge The Father himself, the creator of all things sealed Jekkad off from the myriad dimensions enfolded in his arms.”
      The only people outside of jekkad that knew of what had happened is father and samur maykr. All other maykrs had no idea of what had happened to jekkad, let alone know demons evens existed. Also urdak was actually the first dimension the father created, jekkad however is the first dimension he created knowingly.

    • @GamingEelektross
      @GamingEelektross 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kefo3241 Yeah, I forgot a few of those details, but the main point still stands; Roanoke never paid attention to any lore and/or read any of the demon bios.

    • @kefo3241
      @kefo3241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GamingEelektross 100% agree with you there. It literally only takes one glance at the codex to prove most of the stuff he’s says is wrong.

  • @MandoPrime1138
    @MandoPrime1138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for using one of my favorite Halo 3: ODST tracks as the background music!

  • @The_Survivors_Handbook
    @The_Survivors_Handbook 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff buddy ! I just started a playthrough of doom actually lol. I'm playing through the whole series from 93 to eternal !

  • @TheDigitalApple
    @TheDigitalApple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The only game where the wildlife of Australia is terrifying that even the demons are scared!

  • @ivanaguila13
    @ivanaguila13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No one
    Absolutely no one
    Roanoke: *I SMELL FEET*

  • @takensoul8713
    @takensoul8713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you my guy!! This is amazing!

  • @bogcreature4954
    @bogcreature4954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Early yay thanks for the awesome vids man