Non Running Wheel Horse Garden Tractor Find Fixed in 30 Minutes!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2018
- #smallenginerepair #wheelhorse #gardentractors
In this video: I purchased this Wheel Horse 312-8 from Facebook Marketplace for $150! The tractor was non-running, and I got it running in about 30 minutes. In this video I take you through the troubleshooting process.
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All safety switches and fuses were checked and restored to original condition off camera including seat, PTO, and clutch safeties. Since safety switches were not the topic of the video, those procedures were not shown here.
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Geeez I can't express how much I appreciate saving an old tractor video, not all people know how cool & interresting it is to tinker with
old tractor iron.........
I love seeing years worth of debris come out once you get’em running. There’s one mower saved from the scrapper !
@@mrbakerskatz - Build the wall!
It’s good to see young ones doing what I did 40 years ago! I still have a sixties speeded with k301 Koehler. Love that thing!
Speedex
Great work! Keep these old classics working! I have a ‘74 John Deere 140.
Whenever I go to check a starter, like you did, I make the last connection to the machine frame (ground). That avoids arcing and possibly damaging the terminal on the starter. I just use a jumper wire to trigger the solenoid, quick, simple test. Another idea, I keep a rich 2 cycle gas mix in a pump type oil can, use that to prime an engine. It provides some cylinder lube. I also use 2 cycle mix in the gas tank at first, for the same reason. The mixed fuel lasts longer if it's a job you won't get back to soon. Will keep you in mind next time I need Kohler parts.
I hope to find one of these old garden tractors sometime so I can work on them just like you do. They look like fun to work on! :)
Hi Norman it's nice to know that I've been doing this electrical trouble shooting correctly sometimes I would doubt my self if I was are not until I just watched your video I enjoy tinkering on all lawn & garden tractors just as a hobby and the satisfaction of making them run again feels good once again nice video and a nice job with that old wheelhorse tractor
Well done... You made my day - just like all your videos. Thank you for sharing.
You are the best ! Norman! I have always been a huge huge fan. Now here in February ~ of course ~ I'm thinking of Springtime ~ and my old Craftsman and my "never gonna run" Murray (the neighbor just gave me that one). You are an inspiration. Thank you so much. I hope that those solonoids are still for sale. I'll buy one just to have the "box" as a "collectors" item. Best wishes ~ and I hope you are still "in the world!" ✨🌸🙏🌸✨
Of course you fixed it in half an hour- you are like a tractor whisperer or something :-). Your videos are great! Thank you!
I love your content man. So much so I just picked me up a mid 80s wheel horse c195! With a front loader.
Hi Norman! Great video and step by step differential diagnosis is right on the money and straight to the point. Fuel/Fire/Air timed right must run! I'm a very frugal kinda guy and only thing I'm seeing is the heavy grip sandpaper. I'd first use a brass wire wheel which takes off the corrosion and don't eat up the contact post. (bench grinder) Then if need be - Emery cloth which is much easier to work with as it is less stiff and will fold nicely to get into those nooks and crannies. Backside of the contact posts will require this. I've seen lots of guys squirt the carb cleaner in the plug hole but I'm kinda agin it as this is a little hard on the bore if taken to excess and used too often. Once to look for fire Ok! But some guys will think that this is the best and easiest was to start their tractor overtime. If you do you can wash down the cylinder wall and lose lubrication and even compression. Like all good things; only good in moderation. Looking forward to your next video. Hope my comments are not too critical. You make a lot of good sense. Take care, Lee
Great work Norman..simple but effective...
Awesome! I just bought a 312-8 myself a couple of weeks ago and it has the exact same problem. I might be able to get it running now, thanks to you!
Great channel. Glad I found it. A lot of useful information! 👍🏼
WHEEL HORSE !!!! hell yeah 👍
Just did the same thing on my new to me non running 1979 c120 auto. Fired right up after the jumper cable trick..headed over to isavetractors right now for a new solenoid!
Nice save. I have a 1988 310-8 that I bought new. Have not had any issues to this day. They are built to last, love the kohler magnum engines.
So do I. The cast iron engine hold up quite well!!
Great job . I'am so happy to see a young man that can use his mind for something beside video Games. Keep up the great work and best of luck in your life.
Thanks for the help
Bob
A good video, and a Good job fixing it. Cheers !
Great video, I wish I found more deals on tractors like that around here!
Another job well done!
Terry
Heck yeah I liked this video at like one min, I have an old wheel horse almost like that one it was my grandfathers and it is still running maybe not at its prime but from a cold start its like new these engines are the best and will go through hell and back and still run. I won't by any other tractor without one of those engines. 😎
Awesome videos I loved them all.. ❗💖❗ they well done... Thank you so much.. for them..
I work on them every once in a while but no one will sale it
One of these days I’m going to get one to play with and drive around town for the fun of it 😊😊😊
This is all very familiar. Ignition keyswitch completely burnt out. New solenoid and new starter motor and we were in business. New fuel line and filter also. But every year I have to run fresh fuel into the cylinder to get the fuel to pull through. 31 years and still going (just)! My baby!
Cant wait to order some parts from you for my wheel horse pulling tractor
Great buy for sure and it’s a winner 😊
Wheel horse tractors are cool.
Nice video.!
Nice job Norman!
NIce job Norman!
I love this show
I've never heard of Wheel Horse until these videos.
Nice video. 👍 At least you gave me some good ideas where to start! 😂
Im looking at a workhorse I don't need another one but its in good shape not running but it did 6 years ago... I love working on these old girls...I also have AC B10 just haven't gotten to it yet. UPDATE I actually wheeled and dealed for this workhorse sitting in my yard now got it too run, weak compression let MMO soak over nite compression got up to 60 she runs now I gotta figure out the clutch! Im gonna check your page for some belts thanks!
A few words about the continuity function of multimeters. A tone may make you think you have a low resistance path when this may be far from the case. Some meters may give a tone up to 250 ohms. Be sure and check the display for the value of resistance being measured.
Mouse nest in the muffler as well. Nice job!
Watching your videos can be hazardous to your wallet. I already have 2 Wheel Horse, Allis Chalmers H-912, John Deere 212, Montgomery Ward oldie I bought in just the last few months. Only the JD is running right now. Expect a huge parts order soon as I am rebuilding the H-912. I just retired and I wasn't this busy. I curse TH-cam:) I will have plenty to do this winter for sure.
Awesome video
I love your TH-cam videos
Thanks for watching!
I love my 416-8 That I got for probably 185 by the time everything came with it,..2 stage snowblower, 4' mowing deck, Wheel weights, and a counter balance box for the blower..
dang and i thought i got a deal at 100$ for the 516h with mower deck and plow.... im looking for the wheel weights, and all other attachments for it, especially the cab cover, the rear spreader and the underbelly grader i will be restoring it back to use around my house.
@@constitutionalrepublican1611 Yep, you def got a deal! It's just too bad the manufacture's refuse to make quality products like these old things.
Bought a 518h w/a tow behind leaf sucker,48 in deck and all the manuals,purchase paper work and brochures for $300. Sold the leaf sucker for $250. The horse has 412hrs on it👍
Here because my Wheelhorse C161 stopped starting "all of a sudden". I don't have the tools, and I don't have the know how, but at least now I have an idea of some basics to check ;)
That is funny I almost bought that tractor for my channel but decided to go for the electric MTD build. Great work always fun to see another Mainer.
Thanks for commenting! Likewise I am also familiar with your work! Great to connect! Keep in touch. Perhaps a collab in the future? An iSaveTractors Mud Mower?
I would love to have a collab some time. We get a ton of sear 16 with the roper Hi/low trans in the mud mower world because of the dead Onans. I have one myself with a brigs conversion I plan to retro fit soon. Along with an old Bolans 66 some one butchered the engine in. If you need anything or just to talk drop me an email Mainemudmower@yahoo.com
Nice vid. Wish all of em we're this easy.
I’m MikeJD60 but on my other account, but I just bought a 1973 sears st16 w the 16OHV Tecumseh, the engine runs, but I predator swapped it cuz I need a tractor that isn’t a gas hog. I still have the engine, on a pallot in the back of the barn.
It needs a Jew switch, a carburetor, fuel pump, & a few other things.
I’m using the predator because I can use it all day & only use about 1/2 to 1 gallon of gas. Just for taking wood to the burn pile, taking trash out, & mudding.
Whereas my 82 212 will drink 3 gallons in Th ensame amount of time, these old tractors are great, but they are giant gas hogs, & in addition to that they need Ethonol free gas.
Great info
That’s a great video
Nice! I cant tell you how many times I bought broken stuff and it was a wire or a very simple thing. I hate key-switches,solenoids, and safety switches! Often poor quality and almost always the issue(s). I would pay 4x the going rate for components that were reliable but I have found this is impossible to get locally. Many times the new components are bad or fail early.
Give isavetractors a shot at your business!
Norm you rock brother
Keep going 😃😃😃😀😀
great vid...
whats shooting out of muffler ? rusty water../
I have a early 1970s Montgomery Ward variable speed 15. Its got a 15 horse Briggs & Stratton cast iron engine. I was using the pulley puller and pulling stuff off of it. I broke the aluminum starter pulley on the engine. I have not been able to find that anywhere. Also I need to find a drive shaft adapter that goes on the engine. I think the problem that engine has is that it has bad spark so I need to clean up the points and see if it'll start. I'm definitely checking out your website I hope you have what I need.
Nice work, i have a tractor that has a similar issue. it's a jd 318. I'll check and see if it has a solenoid issue. Thanks for the video
They have a Onan engine.
Yes. Although I do need a rear fender pan. Lol.
Should add Marvel Mystery Oil in cylinder this helps keeps things from sticking and free up anything that is sticky
I just bought a Bolens G152
Before you replaced the solenoid did the instrument panel voltage meter indicate voltage and do the lights work? I'm going through this with mine. It stalled the other week and I left the key in on the position. The battery has been charged, but I haven't figured out why it won't start or even turn on the lights. Thanks for the tip of the jumper cables to the starter, I'll try that later.
Nice job on this Wheel Horse. How old is that one and what could you sell it for after you get it running? I wish I lived closer to you; I would volunteer in your shop so I could glean vintage garden tractor restoration skills from you. Thanks once again for sharing! 🇺🇸🚜👍
Anyone know where to get parts for a 1970s Montgomery ward garden tractor couldn’t find anything on isavetractors and thanks Norman you have very informative videos 👍
Hey, Norman great videos indeed, now i have a Hinomoto MB1100, with a TE110 toyosha engine... do you have spare parts for it, or could it be sharing with some spare parts with the kohler engines
Older garden tractors are like mini farm tractors very heavy
I need to know how does the wires go from the ignition switch to the coil to the points to make it start
I am looking for a fuel tank for my 1965 symplicity landlord..thankyou in advance.
Cheers Eric 💈
2:28 dang, the stuff coming out of the exhuast lol
Can you please tell me how the wiring goes from the ignition switch to make the coil feed the
I was thinking can you make a video on what to look for when buying a used garden tractor because always get scared when i think about a tractor i find for sale that something will be wrong with it that i dont know about.
I always used test light
Are the parts you have compatible with oem. Some blades sold by other companies are up to 1/4 inch short. especially Kabota
Wanna give you a update since i talked to yah 63 john deere 110 is almost put back together i also just picked up a 1975 massy ferguson 112 thought you like that id like to send you a picture of it well both of them
thanks for the post
I’ve now gone through my third ignition on my 314-8. Would a bad solenoid be causing that? I get power on the key but the start no longer works. 😊
Lucky is right. Surprised you didn't have to do anything with fuel, carburetor or fuel lines.
Sometimes it just works out that way!
What wires go to the points be from the coile to the in
God bless
I have one now my sister gave me years ago I just let it sit outside. I changed the battery. it turn over when it wants to. I think I need to replace the cracked silanoid
Hey Norman- what's your most admired tractor maker and why? (JD, wheelhorse, ford, cub, case). You seem to have one of each and I assume you have a favorite. Nice work on the videos
Tough question that comes up a lot. I plan on making a video on this very topic. I seem to like them all, as they all have a different approach. But the tractor I use the most is the Ford LGT 145 with Front End Loader. It gets on average 2 hours of use every day 365 days a week. The second most used is the Ingersoll 4118. I am currently restoring a Simplicity 4040 Powermax for this channel, and I plan on using that heavily in my large garden because of the high ground clearance. So as you see, each brand, make and model are better at certain tasks than others.
I just bought a simplicity 7117
Hey man I have that same mower but with a Briggs and its start just fine but it at idle and stays then looses all rpms and almost shuts of then it goes back and keeps doing that like it's not getting gas what could that be
i got a model 92-11bf-91 wheel horse just . do u got pdf manual??
Hey ur content is awesome u do good work I have a stumper for you I have a John Deere 212 not sure the year but I can get it to fire up on a battery charger but when I unhook it to move it just dies out do u have any ideas about that
Bad battery. Put a load tester on the battery
Do you have parts for a tecumseh v50
Nice video but what if the starter is working but there is no spark? Who would have ever thought there would be a video about our old Wheel Horse tractor!?!? Gotta love TH-cam. Sub’d
I from Chebiygan MI Do you have Bolens parts for a 1050
I have a c-160 wheel horse I am stumped on. I have spark fuel and 125 psi of compression. It will not start. I have been jumping it off another tractor. You think not have a good battery would cause an issue
I have an old Hines tractor I'd like for you to restore to life. It has a Kohler K341 powering it.
14 horse kohler K series idles, but dies when given more fuel?
Hey! Great vid.. I have the same tractor with the same issue. The previous owner replaced the solenoid and key tumbler and still nothing. Where are you hooking up your multimeter to test continuity? One of the replacements he did may have been DOA and I guess I should test it to see if I need to order from you.
You could simply bridge / bypass the solenoid with screwdriver. If it still didn't crank you have a bad wiring connection or battery. Remember he replaced both first.
How do I figure out what wheel horse tractor I have
I just bought my first tractor with a starter generator and the generator is stuck. can I get it rebuilt or should I just buy a good used one any pointers?
You can rebuild it! See our video on that. We sell the rebuild parts
I will do that in 28minutes😀
Nice save. Yea for 150 bucks I would've jumped on that one too. Did ya get a deck with it too?
Yes there is a 38" rear discharge deck for it
How long has it been sitting? You didn't have to overhaul the carburetor or even put fresh gas in it! That's pretty amazing actually
Unknown how long it was sitting. Lucky lucky!
That's my tractor!! I'm having some trouble with the charging. If I disconnect the stator while it's running, it shuts down. Does that mean the charging is still putting something out? Also is it possible to change it over to a magneto system instead of the battery ignition? Worst case scenario is I'll charge the battery externally. I should mention though that I had to replace the fuel pump to an electric one. So i would need to have enough power just to run the pump. Looks like there's still some odd pieces of stuff being blown out of it.
I can’t get my old Wheelhorse tractor running the coil is good but when it’s put back on the motor no spark
Check your key switch kill terminal connection.
I have to old garden tractors
Hope you might be able to help me. I have a 520-H. I got on and tried to start it and nothing. No dash lights, not solonoid click, nothing. I checked the battery and it was old so I bought a new one. Same thing. I looked at the fuse box and it was covered in dirt and grass. I cleaned them off, brushed the fuses off, and blowed out all the contacts and added some contact cleaner. WOW, it started right up. I mowed a few rounds and my deck belt broke, so I replaced it, started the tractor and before I even moved, it died, and the same thing happened. Turn the key and nothing, no lights, no clicking or anything. Do you have any suggestions I might try to fix this. Thanks in advance!
Check your ground connections. Try jumping individual parts to track down the culprit. Visit our website for troubleshooting and tech articles. Also you're welcome to send me an email for more detailed help.
#savethemicenorman . Thanks
Hey man, I got a 312-8, wanting to put a straight pipe on it. Do you know the size of pipe I would need?
I don't but probably something like 1 1/2. Bit measure to be sure. These engines sound cool with a straight pipe
What type of multi meter (simpler the better )should I purchase? Thanks for video
Any auto ranging digital multimeter will do the trick! Make sure it has a continuity function as that comes in very handy. Continuity symbol looks like a wifi symbol
This winter I will be making a video talking about multi meters so stay tuned
You should never underestimate the stupidity of former owners! I have hade many old tractors and machinery that some smart ass “repaired”. Installing a ignition switch or connecting a carburetor to the engine must be like rocket science to some people. Anyway what I mean is that you should check even the most stupid things if you don’t get it running. All it takes is fuel, air, compression and a spark, everything in correct timing and it works. Good video, I like the “magic” solenoid trick, only thing that would have made it even better would be a text: Magic is not included, must be bought separately.
Regards Nils
Do you know anything about the brand Bolens
I sure do