Steam Deck: "Other" - What is it? Where is it? HOW CAN I MAKE IT SMALLER??
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- Note: My new video will help you tame it more intelligently. • Steam Deck: "Other" St...
If there was any logic to our language, then OTHER would be a four letter word. No matter what you do, the OTHER section of your storage is out of control.
Let's tame that beast by learning what it is, where it is and how you can determine what needs to stay and what needs to go.
If you can't find the app in the Discover store try this: flathub.org/ap...
“Under a gb per game”
Meanwhile a hat in time’s shader cache being bigger than the game itself
I really appreciate this guide. I’m totally new to PC gaming, so I’m a little nervous about going in and trashing files when I’m not sure what they do or where they came from. I don’t want to break my new computer. 😅
Lmao I feel you
Welcome to the actual disgraceful hell we all call PC.
We shouldn't need a 3rd party tool to do this, Valve screwed up.
100% agree.
@@Darkuni I love BTRFS compression
Fact,the problem still exist
They need to incorporate all of this into the Steam OS itself from Settings.
All of pc is fucked up, pc is just excess nonsense that makes it more annoying than any of it should be. Whoever developed the software for pc either did it on purpose because of greed or their genuinely a bunch of fucking morons.
This is a good video, and helped me get some insight into the storage issue on my 64gb model. One thing I will say is your shader cache really depends on the game - Metro Exodus had almost 9gb worth (though much of that was in video files), I ultimately uninstalled it until my ssd upgrade arrives. Point is they aren't all a gig at the most.
Thank you for this video! Found this link on Reddit and this finally helped me clear that stuff out. I had an entire Elder Scrolls Online failed download that was well over 100gb, lol. Was not expecting it to be that. You rock!
I haven't gotten rid of everything, I'm scared of deleting something important, but I managed to clear out an extra 10 gigs. Thank you very much for this video!
You're welcome!
Great video! I tried downloading FFXIV through XIV Launcher and it downloaded a second copy of the game. Had no idea how to find the files to delete the second copy, thanks a bunch!
Helped a lot, linux is a little confusing since I've used windows my whole life. I also have the 64 gb steam deck so that filled up quickly with a bunch of "other" Thanks!
Yeah man .. me too ... I learn through teaching ... check this out too: th-cam.com/video/81x4z9HLRr4/w-d-xo.html
Disk Usage Analyzer couldn't be launched for me, so installed File Light and it worked. Thank you so much for this tutorial 🙏
They definitely do the same job. I just like DUA more. :)
@@Darkuni I'm not sure what is wrong. I was able to install it, but whenever I try opening it I get an error saying "The name is not activatable". But thankfully there were other apps :)
@@mikkiw.l1497 There is something new :D Glad you found a solution though.
not enough storage space to install the app lol
i had the same thing 🤣
How do you get on desktop mode on pc windows 11 because none of these videos show how to
? This is a tutorial for steam decks @@x3rtzz338
Wow. god like tip. this needs more views. I had assumed uninstalling a steam game, even a non steam game deletes the proton folder.
So glad you found it useful!
What a useful vid I had a game where it installed on steam but I was basically only installing the launcher or something and had to install the game in the launcher on steam
Deleted the game but still had 50 gbs space taken from the game
This vid helped as I found it chilling in steam storage and deleted it lol
Half of the non steam data for me was just warframe shader data this really helped to narrow down where that was. It was 44.48 GB
Holy hell. I thought A HAT IN TIME at 12GB was bad. 44GB ... insanity.
@@Darkuni yeah it's a bug. The shader data for warframe is supposed to be 1.5-2 GB but for whatever reason on the steam deck at least, it just keeps reinstalling the data every time you boot up steam without deleting the previous data.
@@davidhayward6646 Strange. Thanks for the info though!
Great advice! I look forward to more content. Maybe an intro to the konsole commands would be good.
Interesting idea ... thank you.
@@Darkuni Can you help me please I cant open the store app to download the app to clean the memory
@@joseh4077 the Discovery store doesn't open for you? You might have bigger problems my friend.
Thanks a lot for this. I just upgraded to the Steam Deck OLED 1TB and got a bit carried away installing stuff and I just needed to know how to delete these files and this video was perfect. Again many thanks.
So pleased it helped you!
Thanks for this. I also had a botched Diablo install. That’s what was taking up the most space.
So funny how that works!
just gonna comment again saying thank you big for this video :) it is a massive help especially for me with the 64gig model i did test installed and unistalled a game first attempted it got rid of some but left some behind but after another reinstall and uninstall it took it all with it so could be a bug in the software for first time install on a game which hopefully could be fixed
but thanks to this vid i can keep a close eye on it so should be able to keep my storage balanced so thank you so much for this video :) great help!
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You're welcome and I appreciate your sub.
Under a gigabyte per game, you say... Well, that would explain my 40GB of shader cache.
Solved months of frustration
Very generous ... Thank you!!
Thanks for the guide. I freed up like 25 gigs worth of crap. Funny enough, I didn't have enough storage space to install the Disk Usage at first bc it was so clogged up lol
Yeah, that is a common complaint. I usually recommend someone uninstall something to make room. Suppose you COULD boot from a recovery drive too ...
Thanks. I thought I uninstalled ff14 but the one I downloaded off of steam was still in there. 90gigs
We all think that we got rid of something when it was still hanging around in there. At least now you know how to find it and get rid of it.
you are doing the Lord's work, thanks for this!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the guide. Really appreciate it
i had 2 files which both were from 3rd party apps, one was a gta v folder and other was rockstar launcher also not downloaded thru a game on steam, both deleted and saved myself up like 3 gb in total :)
Absolutely a life saver video 🎉
thank you so much was able to figure out that my Microsoft flight simulator never uninstalled lol
Sneaky things get stuck in there ...
Cheers, great explanation
I have a drive c and theres windows based stuff inside, as well as a folder with steam related stuff (the desktop version).
I'm close to 90GB on that "non-steam" yellow chunk of my SSD. Only 9GB of that is in the folder you talked about. 42GB is in the shader folder. The rest is who knows where. I only have 4 games installed, and now I can't even update because it tells me I'm out of storage. These games just keep growing in size all the time. I'm going to have to go down to just 3 games.
I know, I'm just frustrated and I'm venting. Thanks for trying to help me out.
If you have a desktop PC or laptop, you may want to consider using SSHFS to mount the steam deck SSD as a Windows drive. This will allow you the ability to use space tools like SpaceSniffer to give you a more accurate look at the contents: i.imgur.com/6kLXor0.png
I’m actually surprised how simple this is versus going into the individual f*king files and searching game ID numbers and then translating what the hell im looking at
RIGHT????
Thanks, this helps me a lot
Glad to help!
This video was completely off lol all my other storage was taken up by shader cache and not the compat data proton files.
haven't got this issue yet but i do have the 64gig version if i uninstall a normal steam game does it remove the shaders with the compdata for that specific game? cause if it does i don't mind having to uninstall a game to play another but I've heard so many mixed things with some saying it does clear it all out and others saying you have to manually delete the files so just got no clue... but will say if i have todo it manually this video helped alot ^^
Thank you for this
Glad you liked it!
Stuff from the workshop has to be manually un-installed too. I had 3 maps from black ops 3 zombies taking up about 20gb of storage even though I thought I deleted them
@@GHow1998 interesting. You installed stuff from the official steam workshop and it wouldn't take it out?
@@Darkuni correct, maybe I just had a weird situation though
@@GHow1998 give me something to test later...
@@Darkuni I may have also had multiple failed downloads.
I have the 64 gig deck, it says i have a total of 46 gigs on it bht like half of it is other
Honestly they should have never sold that small of storage since you don't have a choice on everything that gets installed there.
In my situation I had to factory reset because of the low space my desktop
Mode got bugged
After that I only installed one game and got the proton 7.0 and the other still says 6.0 gb and going on the app is not showing what it is. I’m worried
Could be shaders .. could be anything really
@@Darkuniupdate: it is the shaders and to my acknowledge it is important to the game :c well..
Bought the TB micro SD for nothing 😂
Thanks for the video anyways ❤
Following the instructions, all the files I found have no game mentioned inside, but all of them have the most space taken up by “windows”. I don’t know if they are safe to remove or not.
perhaps we can help you better on the Discord. Be ready to post some pictures/screencaps of what you're seeing.
I have 21gb taking up "other" on my internal storage but nothing shows up on disk usage analyzer? It's saying that 13gb being used for the entire home folder
Check this one.. th-cam.com/video/81x4z9HLRr4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the video, I am tempted to remove SteamOS and put Windows on the device.....because of this issue.
Glad I could help
I dub thou "Deck Wizard of Steam"
Perfect vid man
Thanks so much, found 50gb left behind by FFXIV 😅
Glad I could help
Great video, but I’m a little confused by my results. Steam seems to claim my non-steam games are taking up a lot more room than the Disk Manager app shows is being used. According to Steam, the “Non-Steam” section is almost 100GB, but using this method I could only locate about 20GB of non-steam games.
You could try using the menu and SCAN A DISK and make sure that HOME is chosen. Anything you can write to has to be in that folder hierarchy. NON-STEAM can be almost anything - downloads, mods, videos you recorded, screenshots, roms, bios files ... anything that you don't see listed on the Deck's STORAGE page that isn't a shader cache. You're on the latest OS right? Earlier builds didn't distinguish shaders from "non-steam" so it got confusing. Perhaps we could help more on Discord?
@@Darkuni Turns out it was actually a Steam game - Horizon Zero Dawn - that I’d moved from the internal drive to an SD card. For some reason a copy was sitting in my internal drive when it should’ve been deleted. Not sure why it was being listed as a Non-Steam game, but that’s what caused me to overlook it! Thanks so much for this video.
@@TempusVulpi So pleased to be of help!
Great vid! How do you see the name of the game in drive c. Mine only says windows in each game.
your the best
Thank you🙏
for some odd reasons it was some sound files for me
Fascinating. Where was it stored?
I'd suggest to not install games on drive C in proton, so they won't get all this fiels into compdata
For me it was my Shader Cache due to VRChat. I just deleted the entire thing. Not sure if that was a bad idea or not.
Lmao I am cultivating my other folder. Its at 185gb and growing from no idea what 😆
My Shader Cache is 17 Gb! with Amd radv Vangogh at 10 Gb, is that important, or can I delete it?
If you delete it, you may lose performance in games that use it...
okay this isn't solving my problem, my shadercache is taking up the majority of my space.
Check out my shader cache killer video.
I have 428GB of other and have no idea where it is or what it is😭
Well you're at the right video to figure that out.
Thanks 👍
When you were browsing through the compatdata folder, how were you able to make the program show the name of the game? I've dug through so many folders, but there's no info on what game they belong to.
You can't. Not really. PROTONTRICKS can help, but only if you haven't deleted the game from Steam already.
I'm not manually digging through hundreds of folders, fuck that, would take fucking hours
Valve needs to fix this, add a CCleaner like app to the Deck that clears it automatically with the press of a button, what a massive oversight on their part.
They can't control what you install as non-steam games ... when you delete a real steam game, these things tend to get cleaned up. It is everything else that we do as users they are not going to clean up after us.
There must be a different location not seen by this tool. When updates with Discover fail, free space decreases. But where is that located?
So much space you can SEE it? Discover installed apps are really small, no?
@@Darkuni found it. Its a flatpak problem
@@LA-fb9bf Excellent!
Steam already implemented a solution for compatdata folder.
On Copy On Write (COW) filesystems It colapses duplicated files in one.
The problem is ext4 is not a COW filesystem.
So you need to switch to btrfs or just wait years until ext4 gains COW functionality.
I'd love to learn more about this
@@Darkuni search for "steam reflink support".
This days I can't post links on TH-cam because the post get blocked.
I don't recomend you to format the Steam Deck with btrfs but if you want, you can.
@@mercuriete Neat idea, but from a "how much does it help", I'm not sure it is mind blowing. Max 300mb for a 64bit Proton savings? 3GB for every 10 games is "nice" ... but not worth running BTRFS :)
@@Darkuni It potentially save all compatdata because each wine/proton profile is the same folder with same files. The only difference between folders are the savegames.
But I will wait until Valve brings reflink support to steamDeck somehow.
@@mercuriete yeah I get what they're trying to do and every little bit helps. I just don't see necessarily the great amount of savings unless you're talking about having hundreds or thousands of proton folders. I also kind of like that they are sandboxed between them. I find that an advantage not a detriment
Looks like this doesn't work anymore. The application freezes and crashes after just a few seconds
Dang it. Thanks for reporting in. I'll check it out later and depreciate this video if it isn't working right.
I have all my games saved on sd yet the other file on the deck drive is filled as other lol.
Ya boiii my shit said 212 I was like tf 🤣 thank you
When I am drilling in steam apps I cannot see the names of any games just numbers or multiple files of things. Not sure what I should or shouldn’t be deleting. Help!
This is what you need: th-cam.com/video/81x4z9HLRr4/w-d-xo.html
is there another way to empty trash on desktop mode than just finding it and manually clicking trash
Such as ...?
I move to trash but for some reason i have a trash folder in disk analyzer when i go to the dolphin manager and trash nothibg shows up? I tried to delete this non steam e.a app and star wars which is 100 gig.. i really dont feel like factory resetting my deck but this hasnt been working for some reason..
Empty Trash?
@@Darkuni in the disk app it's a trash folder the stuff I want erased is in but when I go to the desk to the file manager when I check the trash been nothing is in it...
@@bizzothagreat have you tried emptying the trash from dolphin?
@@Darkuni nothing is showing up at all but when I look in the disk analyzer the stuff shows up in that trash folder
@@bizzothagreat Right I understand that you're not seeing anything. But if you tried hitting the empty trash item anyway?
I switched my previous micro SD card (256gb) without uninstalling any games and placed a new micro SD (512gb) and the steam deck shows a ton of “other”. I only have 2 games and use the 64gb steam deck. How do you know which one is the old install and the new install?
Unfortunately it doesn't matter what SD card is in your deck. Once you've installed something the support files get installed on the internal storage and they go nowhere until you uninstall the original game.
@@Darkuni thank you. So basically, you have to uninstall everything before using a new micro SD in order to get rid of the files and its redundant data. In my case, I just switched the micro SD and the steam deck redownloaded both games and a significant additional cache data which is probably repeat data. It went from 5gb to 11gb of “other” just by switching the micro SD cards without uninstalling both games.
@@eduardomancia4958 I need to do more research ... There shouldn't be duplicates for the same game, though.
@@Darkuni aye ive seen a few people have said this when switching sd cards it seems to redownload the same files again even though they where never uninstalled eating up even more space it seems to be a bug with steam os from the sounds of it heard a few cases of this
@@eduardomancia4958 it seems to be a bug from what i can see only way to fix it for now is to uninstall the games clear all the compdata and shaders and redownload the games again on the new sd card is a pain but seems to be the only way around it seems to be a bug I've seen a few people now who have had this issue.
How do i move the files to trash, i can find them perfectly fine but no matter what buttons i press i cant move it to the trash
Use DELETE from Dolphin.
I can’t get any of them to move to the trash
What happens when you try?
@@Darkuni it says failed every time
@@EpicGamer-xd2ql Use the path where the folders/files are, and jump to Dolphin and DELETE it from there. Moving to TRASH doesn't free up any space anyway without an EMPTY TRASH action).
For me this does only takes like 20gb and i need those 3 games but I can't find the other 20 gb which should be free to use
I have a couple of other videos on the subject that might be helpful?
What happened to the 'other' 50GB? Disk usage analyzer didnt show it. As an example my other folder is 42GB, Disk usage analyzer shows my home folder is only 15.9GB! Where's 26GB hiding?
I believe the SteamOS itself (the core files) dont' show up there. That is about the right size.
@@Darkuni You're correct :)
Games 2.4GB, Other 42.26GB, Free 182.15GB
Other is not Shader Cache & Compatdata, there is some but certainly not 42GB.
Turns out its just the OS, system data and swapfile.
I have installed proton with some DX9 and C++ compatibility tools so there a few GB of that.
Devices > Home > Deck. Deck = 18.9GB
Devices > Home - 41.2GB
Inside Home
SteamOS - 6.4GB
Deck - 18.9GB (15.9GB in Disk Usage Analyzer) - this is where I have 5GB compatdata
Doorstep - Symbolic link
Lost & Found - minimal
Swapfile - 16GB
Total 41.3GB
@@guest21984 I enjoy being right ... LOL
How do I actually move it to trash???????
I open this silly program but I have no option to move anything to the trash! Linux is so damn annoying. (I am sure there is some other settign that must be set).
It won't show up in my discover store.... im pissed now
I think I have a link in description for a direct download.
I do not find this Tool in the discover store. Anybody had the same Problem?
You can install it from a flat pack.
flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.baobab
@@Darkuni thanks
What if 90% of the data is used by the system and moduli files? How would I fix that without completely fucking up my system? Would a factory reset be the only thing I could do?
If this were Windows? I could help. But I don't know enough about Linux and what is "optional" and what is "required". I'm starting to be in your shoes ... I'm sloooowly chewing away at free space. At some point, I'll have to reset (just like I have to do with Windows about once a year - to be fair). All I can say is ... THANK GOD I didn't get the 64GB sku.
I have most of my data is used by shader cache is there a safe way to chip away at this? I uninstall some games but shader cache is still there so was wondering if there was a safe way of removing or when it’s okay to remove
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How do you even get desktop mode bro, all these vids i watch do a horrible job of explaining and dont even show anything and im on windows 11 so its confusing too. I need help
On your deck, if you go to power you can hit the option to go into desktop mode on your deck. You can also connect your deck to your Pc via a cable. But your deck has a built in desktop mode
@@DrCaptainSquirrel what’s a deck?
How do u do that Same process on the micro sd card on steam deck
The microSD card does not contain shader caches, proton compatibility folders or anything else this tool offers culling services for.
Whenever I try to install I get a 503 error I installed Ubisoft launcher and the division and now I can’t uninstall it is the app still working I cannot believe valve shipped it like this I mean Jesus Christ I never though I’d say I miss task manager but I sure do
Using the STEAM button then EXIT GAME doesn't work?
Do shader caches get deleted when you uninstall games? Also, I drilled in to the pfx files but no names came up so didn’t know which game was which 😬 any chance you could do another vid but with the shader caches and explaining those…of if anyone reading this can comment with a tip or two
Here ... th-cam.com/video/ZZJ4lUOnuZA/w-d-xo.html ... th-cam.com/video/81x4z9HLRr4/w-d-xo.html
@@Darkuni legend! Thank you 👌🏾
won't let me launch the app for some reason. Freezes discover when I try and open it.
Which app? Disk Analyser? Try running from the "start" menu?
@@Darkuni Good shout, that worked cheers
If anyone has the same problem as me, do as stated above, pin the disk usage manager to the taskbar. It starts every time once you do that.
so if there is no drive_c under the pfx then the it can be deleted?
That appears to be safe. After all that means there's no save data there's no installed programs... Of course that also means it's very very tiny and deleting it probably won't free up a ton of space anyway ... Gotta keep things neat
I have the normal windows shit and can’t do any of this
What exactly does that mean? You're running Windows on your Steam deck?
I can’t move anything to the trash😊
@@hatem2106 what happens?
could at least factcheck, compatdata is your prefixes, not "Non-steam installs".
Occasionally I paraphrase for those who are not as intelligent as you.
so what if i dont have a steam deck? im a bit confused ahaha
How would you do this on a windows PC?
How would you use a Windows PC to check your Deck's free space or how do you find used space on a Windows PC?
I cant say i learned anything from this video, i'm not able to figure out what is what in the app...
Hate to sound like a dick, but using a basic file explorer interface is more or less the absolute minimum level of knowledge you should have learned in elementary school for navigating a computer. If a simple app like this is too difficult, you need to take basic computer literacy courses or something at your local community college, or find basic guides online, this video is to show off the app, not how to show you the basics of using a file explorer.
did not work i put stuff in trash and was not there in dolfain
People have reported this, but I haven't seen this happen personally. Check the video description for a link to a video that is BETTER than this method.
Cant 't find the App even when I enter disk space like you did. That App looks so easy from your Video... What a pitty
Found my issue. Don't know why but I had to search the app in German language although Linux is on english and my steam App also.
Working now. Thanks for your video
If you can't find the app in the Discover store try this: flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.baobab
are you able to just move all of these files to an external microSD card if you dont feel comfortable with deleting folders?
Well, you could ... or offload them to a NAS or network storage ... flash drive.
@@Darkuni i tried it and it works! almost 14gb of space were cleared and games run better now.
@@racingdriveranony Good deal!
Hey, could you please tell how you changed the location?
@@pratsepic Which location? Can you reference a time stamp in the video?
I’m on windows is there another program like this that will help
SpaceSniffer
@@Darkuni thx
If you can install a Cron job program, you can make this automatic. Something like that:
5 20 */3 * * rm -r /path/to/directory/**
Explanation: run rm (remove) command with recursive flag with given directory at 08:05 pm on every 3 days
I'm familiar with cron jobs, but why would you want to remove the directory? I mean there's valid files in there sometimes things get left over from an uninstall that you do not want in there but most of the time their files that like OverWatch in this case where I installed a specifically and I really don't want to remove shaders...
Can you do this to an sd card?
You don't need to. The only thing stored there are the game files.
This is why I tell everyone not to buy the 64GB version
Me too. But I get downvoted on Reddit for saying it.
Could it be that this app is gone from the discover store?
It is so weird how some people say they can't find it - I've even seen it disappear. But it returns? I dunno. Link for direct download is in the description.
It is disk and not disc
It seems Disk Usage Analyzer is no longer available in the store. :(
Is there an other way to install it, or another program to use?
Hmmm ... I still see it; searching for "disk space"...
@@Darkuni Thanks for helping!
I had to delete a backup and its in the trash on file editor but when i go to dolphin it says trash empty but its till taking up space
Where does Disk Space Analyzer say it is?
@@Darkuni trash
@@Darkuni its moved to trash on thr file editor but when i go into dolphin it says my trash is empty.
@@ShatteredPulsar That's weird. How big is your lost+found folder?
@@Darkuni where is that at. Im sorry im a noob to doing this stuff
Shadercache is takin up 20 gigs on my poor little 64 gb, and 12gigs of compatibility files, the rest is taken up by protons and I have no space now.. shader cache can be deleted? I been testing a lotta games cuz I just got this thing so it’s probs from that lol
You can, but games that use it will perform worse once deleted.
If I uninstall a game and it's shader cache, would reinstalling the game bring that shader cache back?
@@adnanqasim30 Yep. Steam should redownload it.
Most of the shader cache was only like 2GB, but there was an 18GB transcoded_video.foz file which I ended up deleting.. does anyone know wtf this file is, and why it was there taking up so much space in the first place?
also, I just moved the compat files to SD card, and linked the folders back, which should do the trick for now and hopefully not cause slowdown..
Honestly tho, ill prob just grab a 1TB SSD one of these days and pop that bastard in… they have refurbished ones for like 140
@@mindscan420 Since Steam cannot decode certain video types (something about a failed licensing scenario) Steam was helpfully transcoding the videos into something that will play on Deck. After deleting that? You will see color bars instead of videos ...
Jesus christ man I just got mine downloaded a hame for like an hour only for it to tell me that I don't have hard disk space. Now I have too much other data too download another game. Already starting to regret buying this.
Replace the internal drive man. 256 is serving me well. 512 would be amazing.