This is great - it's the first time I'm enjoying any untamed build. I love that there is a tiny bit of complexity with the rotation, keeps things fun. You've earned my sub!
Glad you liked it! I really enjoy untamed in open world, I've tried SB open world builds a few times and always feel less 'safe' than I do with untamed it's just so good with restorative strikes
just started testing this build in HoT content and I gotta say it feels awesome being able to solo that stupid frog, or that bat or even that mushroom queen thingy. Thanks mang! Although I must say this is very far from the low intensity builds i've grown used to, like a power Reaper or soemthing. but that's a good thing , i feel pumped playing again!
Yeah the value of Storm Spirit on 20 second cooldown is really big! Fury and vulnerability uptime, great damage, two dazes, and two instances of quickness all baked into a single ability is very nice.
Great Build... DPS & Survivability is soooo Crazy^^ I make a Champ in Soto with maybe 15 Adds and Revive a Player with this Champ and Adds at the same Time and i won't Die^^ Crazy and Great to Play Build... Thx for this Fun Build
Interesting. I personally prefer running Let Loose because I really like the focus on Ambush Skills and Qucickness for Allies as well, but booooi is Restorative Strikes some insane healing together with Life Steal from Ambushing.
Yeah RS is actually bonkas healing it's crazy, literally 20,000 health healed in 1-2seconds sometimes... just huge healing spikes. But punching if you stuff up that 4 second window and you need to wait for the next. I enjoy playing quickness untamed in group content with let loose, lots of ambushes is fun
Build seems really nice ! Just leveled up and geared an Untamed just after seeing your video, currently at 13kdps on golem with mediocre food and no utility, gotta practice the rotation !
Appreciated that you put the DPS without exernal boons. I usually get 11-12k with my builds. 18k is a huge increase. But I am also not very good mechanically.
11-12k is perfectly fine for Solo open world builds in practice. 18k is all good and well to demonstrate potential on a golem but as soon as you're fighting a bounty, dodging stuff, in and out of range etc that will go down.
Thanks for the update of you're untamed build. I'm using a full celestial version of you're build last time and its super fun and I'm using two version of untamed right now you're build as the dps one and the other is a dual staff healer dps build.
Yeah a full celestial works well, super duper tanky, I occasionally swap my trinkets to celestial for really hard legendary bounties like Rubedon I usually struggle with
I run almost exact build with a few key differences. Celestial and viper mix + the staff and Let loose, doing 17k easy. The staff unleash skill makes you soooo survivable it's scary and I'm a staff nut so love the thematics. With axe axe wh I clear 19k but not as cool as the staff😅
with the trait 'let lose' you can cast damage + healing twice in an instant by swapping you're weapons using dual staff and i tested it in eod meta my survivability is very high unlike druid which is pure healer and you have to time you're heal rotations untamed with aoe damage + heal doesn't need rotations just smash the buttons and that's it @@WilstormGaming
With the new pet balance, i swapped skirmishing with beastmastery just to see how they work. With iboga (current top dps pet) i did 13k on the golem (no boon or condi) with damage split equally between me and my pet (like 42% - 40%). I will try the other 2 top dps pet (bristleback and carrion devour) but i like that my pet is actually helping me!
This is what I currently run. Look up Paper Roll’s Untamed build it is what you just listed and it is great! I will be definitely trying this out also.
Yeah the new dagger goes well with Condi, throw in an axe, torch or shortbow and you've got a few options. Spike Trap for bleed + quickness proc, sun spirit for might, etc. I have tried this but I didn't like it as much, restorative strikes only works with strike damage so the healing wasn't nearly as potent on the condition build and I struggled much more with some of the harder legendary bounties like Rubedon
Iplayed before but had some strokes and dont remember anything, so started over really liking ranger duel axe so went looking just found this, thanks for that been being told no use a bow, haha I have questions so id ya ever see Urik Axebourn let me know so can ask em
4:25 I'm new to this, and I see that the third pet skill has a cooldown of 19 seconds. However, you say to do Axe 3 followed by the ambush sequence every 10 seconds. Will the big heal still work without the third skill?
Nice build, friend. I'd like to ask you if is it possible to scale this build to play fractals and end game content or do I need to check another build on snowcrow?
Since this is mostly berserker gear you can literally just swap Restorative strikes to Ferocious Symbiosis and play dps in instances content. Similarly take Let Loose and you're a quick dps, though there are some strange interaction with let loose so I'd watch my video on quickness untamed for that one
You certainly could if you are looking for a more defensive option - but I don't think it's necessary. Nature's Vengeance is simply higher dps due to the extra slam from storm spirit, which also provides another instance of quickness from Enhancing Impact (Untamed tree). Invigorating bond loses that damage and quickness but gains some healing and defensive boons. It also seems to be inconsistent in the way it proceed for me (autocasted beast skills weren't activating it when I tested). Overall though I wouldn't recommend. I think restorative strikes gives enough healing and the value of damage and quickness is greater as a generalisation. Would only recommend if you really needed an extra defensive option but in that case I'd recommend just changing some of your stats first (few pieces of celestials for example).
Will this work with the longbow as well, like the previous build? I absolutely love longbow on my ranger. Or should I then take skirmishing for Lead the Wind?
The longbow absolutely still works with this build without changing anything. Or if you want you could swap out Nature Magic for Marksmanship (keep skirmishing!) and take hunters gaze, farsighted and lead the wind. With sigil of strength and hunters gaze you should still have plenty of might.
To really min-max the combo effect you should go F1 > F3 > F2. F1 teleports your pet to the target, then F3 (field) and F2 (finisher). Poison Blast combo though only applies weakness so not a dps increase.
In the untamed tree there is a trait called Enhancing Impact that I recommend which gives Quickness every time you disable an enemy (stun/daze/knockback/knockup etc) and so because Storm Spirirt dazes the enemy it triggers quickness. Then because Nature's Vengeance trait makes the storm spirit slam twice it will daze twice and therefore trigger quickness twice about 3 seconds apart
Hi! Nice to see another fellow GW2 content creator :) I have a few constructive remarks about the build: 1. I've had discussions with other content creators in the past on how build guides should be advertised. My personal stance is that one can never claim that a build is "the best open world build", because open world is multi-faceted. In pure solo gameplay, this is a very good build to play! If you do a group event where a lot of boons might be provided to you, this build would fall behind other options that build for less self-sustain, but that's still open world gameplay isn't it? Again, my point is not that this build isn't good, just that it is not "the best for open world". I get that many other content creators do the same (sigh), but there are several videos claiming to have the best untamed build for open world out right now and use different builds. They can't all be right can they? 2. You suggest using celestial gear if one seeks more survivability, but there are way better ways to reach survivability in the game. Celestial is a bad prefix for power builds, as you waste a lot of the stats AND it costs a good chunk of money. You might want to look into -10% damage taken food and potions of karka toughness first (you're using lifesteal food, which looks like much, but it's neglectable for survivability). You'd be better off slotting the stone spirit for higher protection uptime and aegis, which is way more impactful and much cheaper than any gear change you could make. 3. I'd also like to mention the availability of the relic of the cavalier paired with the skyscale engage skill (or any engage skill to a lesser degreee) and jade protocols, which are insane for self-boon coverage in general roaming. The relic can be used in story instances, the protocols cannot. As i said, just some options/remarks to consider.
Hey Masel! I've watched a bunch of your stuff. Thanks for reaching out I appreciate any discussion/feedback. On your points: 1. I agree overall this was definitely designed and aimed specifically as a Solo build not just Open world which could still apply to grouped open world content. I've even added Solo to the title because I think that's perfectly valid. As for the 'best' thing I agree in principle, but I am new to this so still finding the balance of intriguing titles that aren't misleading - with that said (bar minor changes) I do think overall this type of power Restorative Strikes build is the best untamed solo build right now. Ive tested lots with the condition variants and I think this is better... but yes there is always slight changes with relics/runes sigils etc. 2. I do think celestial is still a very forgiving stat set for this build that still has enough power/precision/ferocity to heal you up combined with the increase in effective health pool. There's lots of alternatives like commander's for example or changing skills for stone spirit as you said but I think overall celestial will provide a more generalised 'jack of all trades' type build that I've played with and is very forgiving. 3. Cavalier relic is definitely very good when moving around lots in and out of combat (roaming as you've said) but for extended solo fights ~3-5 min+ it's value drops off very quickly I think.
@@WilstormGaming 1. no worries, it's all good. Seeing that you're new to this, the video is very well done and informative, not too long/to the point. As I said, I totally get that in a competition, one has to use the dynamics of the platform to one's own advantage, but I still think that its important to keep a certain standard. If you make a build guide, you have a kind of responsibility, since people will take what you say at face value if they don't know better. And overselling a build will eventually lead to people being disappointed because the build might not be able to deliver what is promised. What I like about you approach Here is that it's pragmatic and does not overoptimize for a niche scenario. It's focused on solo gameplay, but still quite easily adjusted for group content. 2. Cele is mathematically not great for power builds, because you're not making use of condition damage and expertise really. A lot of healing on this build doesn't scale heavily with healing power, it scales with damage dealt (via restorative strikes). So reducing your damage by increasing survivability reduces survivability, if that makes sense. It also has enough vitality without cele, so it ultimately boils down to power, precision, ferocity and toughness. Toughness from cele is a minor gain compared to having higher protection uptime, and you can reach more power, precision and ferocity by using dps gear. If you want to have discussions about this stuff, I can recommend joining the gw2 discord. In the pve chat over there, we discuss a lot of these things. 3. Yea definitely, just wanted to mention that it's always good to tell people that these options exist. Cavalier relic and jade protocols are insane if you know how to use them
Thanks Masel I value and appreciate the feedback. I agree celestial definitely is not optimal for a power build, although axes 2/3 benefit a little from conditions but overall it's just a generic stat blanket that kinda works for anything. I'll be keen to look more into prefixes like Commander's for Power/Precision/Toughness/Concentration for example. I'll join the discord, keen for more discussion around this stuff
@@WilstormGamingIt’s working fine for me in the UK. Thanks for the update. I’ve been having a blast with the previous build you posted! I’ll need to try this one out too.
I got mine through living World trinkets, those are all stat-selectable. Alternatively, you could get a few pieces of Diviners Armour, look up "Mist Shard Armor" on the wiki, you can get a full set from achievements in Dragonfall (Living World Season 4)
I find it so un realistic, boring and insanely repetitive when you have to follow a strict rotation and build, and I also think is ridiculous that some people try to enforce that style of game play, good job with this, games are for fun
Thanks glad you liked it. Yeah I just don't think it's necessary to focus on strict rotations for open world content in particular, better to focus on enjoying the content. Strict rotations for min-maxing dps in more compeitive content like CMs is enjoyable for a lot of people too so each to their own, people enjoy different stuff.
Yeah let's take 15 min with 0 boons instead of the usual 5 min, in a daily strike that we've all done at least 100 times, because people wanna play 3k dmg bearbow rangers instead. Playing in a group setting obliges you to do what's best for the group to succeed and accomplish their goals, otherwise why even play with other people. Instead you are now telling people that you don't respect their time. It's a fair tradeoff, to be expected to bring a decent build, for harder content.
This is great - it's the first time I'm enjoying any untamed build. I love that there is a tiny bit of complexity with the rotation, keeps things fun. You've earned my sub!
Glad you liked it! I really enjoy untamed in open world, I've tried SB open world builds a few times and always feel less 'safe' than I do with untamed it's just so good with restorative strikes
just started testing this build in HoT content and I gotta say it feels awesome being able to solo that stupid frog, or that bat or even that mushroom queen thingy. Thanks mang! Although I must say this is very far from the low intensity builds i've grown used to, like a power Reaper or soemthing. but that's a good thing , i feel pumped playing again!
This build shreds! Keep up the good work!
Glad you like it! It's a lot of fun!
I was playing around with something similar, but your videos definitely helped me take this concept to another level ! Cheers!
This is really good. I never thought of using nature magic with the new spirits in a dps build like that. I'm impressed.
Yeah the value of Storm Spirit on 20 second cooldown is really big!
Fury and vulnerability uptime, great damage, two dazes, and two instances of quickness all baked into a single ability is very nice.
@@WilstormGaming Where does the Quickness come from? I was looking but I may be legally blind.
The enhancing impact trait (in untamed tree) combined with the Daze from storm spirit
Nice, I'm going to have to check this out.
With the new Rift Bouties and all that going on, Open World PvE has a pretty strong presence right now.
Great Build... DPS & Survivability is soooo Crazy^^ I make a Champ in Soto with maybe 15 Adds and Revive a Player with this Champ and Adds at the same Time and i won't Die^^ Crazy and Great to Play Build... Thx for this Fun Build
Glad you like it! It's definitely my favourite!
Interesting. I personally prefer running Let Loose because I really like the focus on Ambush Skills and Qucickness for Allies as well, but booooi is Restorative Strikes some insane healing together with Life Steal from Ambushing.
Yeah RS is actually bonkas healing it's crazy, literally 20,000 health healed in 1-2seconds sometimes... just huge healing spikes. But punching if you stuff up that 4 second window and you need to wait for the next.
I enjoy playing quickness untamed in group content with let loose, lots of ambushes is fun
Build seems really nice ! Just leveled up and geared an Untamed just after seeing your video, currently at 13kdps on golem with mediocre food and no utility, gotta practice the rotation !
Appreciated that you put the DPS without exernal boons.
I usually get 11-12k with my builds. 18k is a huge increase.
But I am also not very good mechanically.
11-12k is perfectly fine for Solo open world builds in practice. 18k is all good and well to demonstrate potential on a golem but as soon as you're fighting a bounty, dodging stuff, in and out of range etc that will go down.
@WilstormGaming you overestimate my skill. I'm talking about 11-12k on the golem.
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Thanks for the update of you're untamed build. I'm using a full celestial version of you're build last time and its super fun and I'm using two version of untamed right now you're build as the dps one and the other is a dual staff healer dps build.
Yeah a full celestial works well, super duper tanky, I occasionally swap my trinkets to celestial for really hard legendary bounties like Rubedon I usually struggle with
I run almost exact build with a few key differences. Celestial and viper mix + the staff and Let loose, doing 17k easy. The staff unleash skill makes you soooo survivable it's scary and I'm a staff nut so love the thematics. With axe axe wh I clear 19k but not as cool as the staff😅
Yeah thats the fun of this game, so many options with build crafting! I haven't played around with the staff much I'll give it a look.
with the trait 'let lose' you can cast damage + healing twice in an instant by swapping you're weapons using dual staff and i tested it in eod meta my survivability is very high unlike druid which is pure healer and you have to time you're heal rotations untamed with aoe damage + heal doesn't need rotations just smash the buttons and that's it @@WilstormGaming
@@tyronearbias4940u cant use staff with untamed my guy with just eod. 😂
Thats brilliant, tyvm
Glad I could help!
With the new pet balance, i swapped skirmishing with beastmastery just to see how they work. With iboga (current top dps pet) i did 13k on the golem (no boon or condi) with damage split equally between me and my pet (like 42% - 40%). I will try the other 2 top dps pet (bristleback and carrion devour) but i like that my pet is actually helping me!
I hate that arena net still won't fix that annoying health bug when switching between unleashed, I love the spec and the build nice job
Using a dagger/warhorn + axe/axe might be a good combination for celestial condi build
This is what I currently run. Look up Paper Roll’s Untamed build it is what you just listed and it is great! I will be definitely trying this out also.
Yeah the new dagger goes well with Condi, throw in an axe, torch or shortbow and you've got a few options. Spike Trap for bleed + quickness proc, sun spirit for might, etc. I have tried this but I didn't like it as much, restorative strikes only works with strike damage so the healing wasn't nearly as potent on the condition build and I struggled much more with some of the harder legendary bounties like Rubedon
Iplayed before but had some strokes and dont remember anything, so started over really liking ranger duel axe so went looking just found this, thanks for that been being told no use a bow, haha I have questions so id ya ever see Urik Axebourn let me know so can ask em
4:25 I'm new to this, and I see that the third pet skill has a cooldown of 19 seconds. However, you say to do Axe 3 followed by the ambush sequence every 10 seconds. Will the big heal still work without the third skill?
Hmm I might change my soulbeast power build to this.
I like my Soulbeast condi too much.
Yeah there's lots of options that's part of the fun! I prefer Power/Condi SoulBeast for strikes and raids but for open world I always play untamed.
Nice build, friend. I'd like to ask you if is it possible to scale this build to play fractals and end game content or do I need to check another build on snowcrow?
Since this is mostly berserker gear you can literally just swap Restorative strikes to Ferocious Symbiosis and play dps in instances content. Similarly take Let Loose and you're a quick dps, though there are some strange interaction with let loose so I'd watch my video on quickness untamed for that one
@@WilstormGamingthank you
Could invigorating bond be used instead of nature’s vengeance?
You certainly could if you are looking for a more defensive option - but I don't think it's necessary.
Nature's Vengeance is simply higher dps due to the extra slam from storm spirit, which also provides another instance of quickness from Enhancing Impact (Untamed tree).
Invigorating bond loses that damage and quickness but gains some healing and defensive boons. It also seems to be inconsistent in the way it proceed for me (autocasted beast skills weren't activating it when I tested).
Overall though I wouldn't recommend. I think restorative strikes gives enough healing and the value of damage and quickness is greater as a generalisation. Would only recommend if you really needed an extra defensive option but in that case I'd recommend just changing some of your stats first (few pieces of celestials for example).
I can see there are many berserker gears in the AH, which one should I take? I can't find the one you're using.
Will this work with the longbow as well, like the previous build? I absolutely love longbow on my ranger. Or should I then take skirmishing for Lead the Wind?
The longbow absolutely still works with this build without changing anything. Or if you want you could swap out Nature Magic for Marksmanship (keep skirmishing!) and take hunters gaze, farsighted and lead the wind.
With sigil of strength and hunters gaze you should still have plenty of might.
Quick question, would you use F1 - F2 - F3 or reverse it as F3 is a combo field and F2 is a combo finisher?
To really min-max the combo effect you should go F1 > F3 > F2.
F1 teleports your pet to the target, then F3 (field) and F2 (finisher). Poison Blast combo though only applies weakness so not a dps increase.
wait how does Storm Spirit give quickness? I feel like I am missing something
In the untamed tree there is a trait called Enhancing Impact that I recommend which gives Quickness every time you disable an enemy (stun/daze/knockback/knockup etc) and so because Storm Spirirt dazes the enemy it triggers quickness.
Then because Nature's Vengeance trait makes the storm spirit slam twice it will daze twice and therefore trigger quickness twice about 3 seconds apart
Hi! Nice to see another fellow GW2 content creator :)
I have a few constructive remarks about the build:
1. I've had discussions with other content creators in the past on how build guides should be advertised. My personal stance is that one can never claim that a build is "the best open world build", because open world is multi-faceted. In pure solo gameplay, this is a very good build to play! If you do a group event where a lot of boons might be provided to you, this build would fall behind other options that build for less self-sustain, but that's still open world gameplay isn't it? Again, my point is not that this build isn't good, just that it is not "the best for open world". I get that many other content creators do the same (sigh), but there are several videos claiming to have the best untamed build for open world out right now and use different builds. They can't all be right can they?
2. You suggest using celestial gear if one seeks more survivability, but there are way better ways to reach survivability in the game. Celestial is a bad prefix for power builds, as you waste a lot of the stats AND it costs a good chunk of money. You might want to look into -10% damage taken food and potions of karka toughness first (you're using lifesteal food, which looks like much, but it's neglectable for survivability). You'd be better off slotting the stone spirit for higher protection uptime and aegis, which is way more impactful and much cheaper than any gear change you could make.
3. I'd also like to mention the availability of the relic of the cavalier paired with the skyscale engage skill (or any engage skill to a lesser degreee) and jade protocols, which are insane for self-boon coverage in general roaming. The relic can be used in story instances, the protocols cannot.
As i said, just some options/remarks to consider.
Hey Masel! I've watched a bunch of your stuff.
Thanks for reaching out I appreciate any discussion/feedback. On your points:
1. I agree overall this was definitely designed and aimed specifically as a Solo build not just Open world which could still apply to grouped open world content. I've even added Solo to the title because I think that's perfectly valid. As for the 'best' thing I agree in principle, but I am new to this so still finding the balance of intriguing titles that aren't misleading - with that said (bar minor changes) I do think overall this type of power Restorative Strikes build is the best untamed solo build right now. Ive tested lots with the condition variants and I think this is better... but yes there is always slight changes with relics/runes sigils etc.
2. I do think celestial is still a very forgiving stat set for this build that still has enough power/precision/ferocity to heal you up combined with the increase in effective health pool. There's lots of alternatives like commander's for example or changing skills for stone spirit as you said but I think overall celestial will provide a more generalised 'jack of all trades' type build that I've played with and is very forgiving.
3. Cavalier relic is definitely very good when moving around lots in and out of combat (roaming as you've said) but for extended solo fights ~3-5 min+ it's value drops off very quickly I think.
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@@WilstormGaming 1. no worries, it's all good. Seeing that you're new to this, the video is very well done and informative, not too long/to the point.
As I said, I totally get that in a competition, one has to use the dynamics of the platform to one's own advantage, but I still think that its important to keep a certain standard. If you make a build guide, you have a kind of responsibility, since people will take what you say at face value if they don't know better. And overselling a build will eventually lead to people being disappointed because the build might not be able to deliver what is promised.
What I like about you approach Here is that it's pragmatic and does not overoptimize for a niche scenario. It's focused on solo gameplay, but still quite easily adjusted for group content.
2. Cele is mathematically not great for power builds, because you're not making use of condition damage and expertise really. A lot of healing on this build doesn't scale heavily with healing power, it scales with damage dealt (via restorative strikes). So reducing your damage by increasing survivability reduces survivability, if that makes sense.
It also has enough vitality without cele, so it ultimately boils down to power, precision, ferocity and toughness. Toughness from cele is a minor gain compared to having higher protection uptime, and you can reach more power, precision and ferocity by using dps gear.
If you want to have discussions about this stuff, I can recommend joining the gw2 discord. In the pve chat over there, we discuss a lot of these things.
3. Yea definitely, just wanted to mention that it's always good to tell people that these options exist. Cavalier relic and jade protocols are insane if you know how to use them
Thanks Masel I value and appreciate the feedback. I agree celestial definitely is not optimal for a power build, although axes 2/3 benefit a little from conditions but overall it's just a generic stat blanket that kinda works for anything. I'll be keen to look more into prefixes like Commander's for Power/Precision/Toughness/Concentration for example. I'll join the discord, keen for more discussion around this stuff
Not able to see your build anymore because good old Censoring TH-cam won't let you link people to places off their site.
Hmmm sorry to hear that, i didn't think description links had been removed yet.... It works for me maybe its a region thing?
@@WilstormGamingIt’s working fine for me in the UK. Thanks for the update. I’ve been having a blast with the previous build you posted! I’ll need to try this one out too.
Glad you liked it. Thanks for letting me know it must be region based I guess.
I apologize in advance but is this a Ranger? I’m new at GW2. Ty
No need to apologise, yes it's absolutely a ranger - Untamed is one of three ranger specialisations; SoulBeast, Druid and Untamed.
Thank you very much!! 😁
Where can I find the diviner’s amulet ring ect?
I got mine through living World trinkets, those are all stat-selectable.
Alternatively, you could get a few pieces of Diviners Armour, look up "Mist Shard Armor" on the wiki, you can get a full set from achievements in Dragonfall (Living World Season 4)
@@WilstormGaming thanks
whats it like in wvw
OH, PVE EASY MODE. HEH
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I find it so un realistic, boring and insanely repetitive when you have to follow a strict rotation and build, and I also think is ridiculous that some people try to enforce that style of game play, good job with this, games are for fun
"I'm a manchild and refuse to follow intuitive processes because my IQ is room temp"
Fixed that for you.
Thanks glad you liked it. Yeah I just don't think it's necessary to focus on strict rotations for open world content in particular, better to focus on enjoying the content. Strict rotations for min-maxing dps in more compeitive content like CMs is enjoyable for a lot of people too so each to their own, people enjoy different stuff.
Yeah let's take 15 min with 0 boons instead of the usual 5 min, in a daily strike that we've all done at least 100 times, because people wanna play 3k dmg bearbow rangers instead.
Playing in a group setting obliges you to do what's best for the group to succeed and accomplish their goals, otherwise why even play with other people. Instead you are now telling people that you don't respect their time. It's a fair tradeoff, to be expected to bring a decent build, for harder content.
Crazy how people just turn insta toxic over small things, can tell these 2 guys are definitely the reason gw2 has great community lol,
Glad to see more builds with a priority rotation than a strict one.
Is there any way to substitute Axe and Warhorn for Longbow and Greatsword with this?