Another great video and one for my project list. I've never seen bright cut on any other rub over setting vids. It definitely gives a better finish. I'll look forward to the video where you show the 'scorper?!' and how to sharpen.
Sorry to hear that. It does get easier. When I get around to my engraving tutorial, that will have practice tasks for bright cutting. I do show how I sharpen these in the sharpening video, along with my 90 degree scorper.
Andy, thanks for sharing your techniques, I like to see production mode in fabrication. I have a loving suggestion for your new channel: explain why you choose to do something in addition to saying what you're doing. Watching this provokes in my mind, the question: "Why did he choose to do that ?" I understand it, but beginners may want to understand your teaching. Makes for good content. Also, did you know there'd an explainable raising that a "fresh" solder join will melt faster than an older one? Zinc is why we can keep using hard solder, join after join. I've had clients request an inline collettewith the shank designed to connect on either side of the collett to keep the stone height down. I do agree that there's too much shoddy work out there on Etsy and elsewhere. Lots of good work, too! Poor teaching - and learning - reaches every low bar. I want some of your homemade small collett blocks! Oh, to have a machine shop and lathe to make every tool I can't find, but need. I bet you could sell them to our metalsmithing community. Definite sub. 👍🏻
Hi. Thanks for taking the time to comment. As stated, the main reason for this one is because of so many bad versions and that I wanted to show people the easiest way of doing things. I normally do mention things like this on videos. I'm trying to keep away from scripts and let it become more natural and chilled. That way people can take from it what they need to. I'd mentioned before in a video about reasons why to use only hard solder, but don't want to sound like a broken record. 🤣 There's another tool that I make and did think about making and selling. But this other tool takes so long I'd be charging £150 for. But a Chinese firm will discover it and make it for £4 because they're set up for it. I've seen it sadly happen with most of the tools people now see every day, but don't realise it's been copied from a little company. This actual tool though for the collets can even be made with a hand drill for DIY and a diamond cone burr. When this one wears out, I'll make a new one on camera. There's so much more I'd like to do, but I already work 10-12hours most days in my normal studio work. Yeah right. Sadly too many people are self taught from watching youtube tutorials that are 10 minutes long and have 90% of the process cut out. Not all of my videos are tutorials though. I still need to do my fun videos for my own sanity. Not that those videos done well, but I enjoyed making them. Please stay tuned for lots more to come.
@flyingcheff I appreciate you. You probably noticed the channel is very new, and I'm still finding my way. The jewellery making is the easy bit after almost 28th years. It's the talking on camera and the videography that is the challenging bit. I just got so frustrated seeing the advice people were being given on Facebook groups. It was the blind leading the blind. We all started somewhere, but the people giving advice really had no idea and I had to bite my tounge because my Facebook is linked to my personal business page. So thats why I started. It seems to really be helping people, so I'm really pleased, but I am still digging my way through this learning curve in my own strange way. But hints from people are always welcomed and noted. I have thick skin, so anyone can be as blunt as they wish. 🤣 Thanks again.
@metalofhonour well, I, for one, appreciate you for embarking on that great task: clarifying and explaining WELL. Fantastic! I, too, cringe all too frequently when watching tutorials. Some are excellent, but some... yikes; they can be the blind leading the blind. Concept: fact-checking! I teach, and I will share your channel happily with my students. Super appreciate the absence of gatekeeping. 👏 👏
@joanneharman2136 that's great. I really appreciate you watching. Currently moving workshops and out of action for a couple of weeks, but lots more videos will be on the way.
Hi Ydna, thanks for the great videos. I've learned how to improve my Etsy-ish work so much already and without feeling insulted lol. I hope you don't mind a suggestion of putting a tools used list either at the start of the video or better still in the description. Please keep up the good work
Ah cool. I'm blunt, but never mean to insult. Just want to help, so pleased you've found bits useful. I did think about a tool list, but I'm hoping people will watch more of the videos and not miss descriptions of tools. It's just that stats show that so many people skip through the vids. It just doesn't help the channel. Thanks for taking the time for feedback. This really does help the channel.
@gilliankemp92 for my 90 degree tungsten graver, I do just buy a square rod of tungsten. All other hss gravers, it's just not worth my time to make from scratch. I don't think I've ever even seen someone do that. My hss are the pre formed ones that need trimming and dressing.
@user-zv5yi5ul9j this very different to normal rube setting selection, where people normally use the tube as it is with straight sides. Very unimaginative version that is all over Facebook. That type is very different for working out measurements. This is easy than it looks. My way of using tube and dimensions is to use 1.5 to 2mm bigger than stone diameter, because I do the squashing thing until it looks a good wall thickness and diameter compared to stone. I like to see a good .6 to .8mm of metal around the stone before setting.
I posted this on one of your earier videos - but thought you might see this one first. Once again - great video. I'm looking forward to the nest one. - Quetion, When you do the Bright Cut around the stones, do you prefer to use a #2 Scorper of a #2 Onglette - I have tried both and I'm still not sure which I like better. Cheers Phil
Morning Phil. I only use flat scorpers for bright cut on my round stones. I mainly use flat scorpers on straight edges too. I use the knife edge, spit and onglette mainly for cut lines around the grain work and also for cutting between grains. 👍🏼
What is the internal diameter of the tubing...so is there an ideal thickness relative to the stone size? I struggle to push the metal over the stone, and when I do it looks a bit 'etsy'!
I think this tube is about .6mm, but it works out thicker by the time it's compressed. That's why I had to drill out for my stones. I didn't bring my bag home tonight, I'll add to my video list a trouble shooting style stone setting video. I think that would be useful for people. There's about 26 videos on my list currently 😬
@@Uvaronova you can generally get them from all jewellery tool suppliers. In England, I use Walsh tools and Cousins UK. Sutton tools are generally a bit expensive.
Nah mate. You've been here for ages and family now. I'd tell you straight up. When I next see one, I'll screen shot and send to you. I was going to make an etsy version and include it in the video, but couldn't bring myself to do it 🤣
@@metalofhonour just messing with ya well not really my stuff really needs tightened up around the joins of rings like this. I got it. Remember what you said bout you’ll one day just put it all together lol
@macmillion83 yeah, you're all good. I know. I'd soon tell you if it looked like you'd tried to solder in an air fryer or done a final polish in a food processor 😂
I love the way you do your videos! You tell it like it is and that's awesome! The tips you give are so helpful! I'm so glad I found you!
@susanking6353 thanks again. Pleased you're enjoying the lessons.
I like that you've shown us the process...without all the fancy tools. Good reminder of what the basics are.
@ielektra yeah. Thanks for commenting too. I do like to mix it up and show all spectrums of tools, too.
Another great video and one for my project list. I've never seen bright cut on any other rub over setting vids. It definitely gives a better finish. I'll look forward to the video where you show the 'scorper?!' and how to sharpen.
It does add the main pro touch. Does take some getting used to though. The graver/scorper video is up. It should be useful. 👍🏼
And thank you.
Love this. Made a nice bezel ring yesterday and ruined it with a rubbish bright cut. Looking forward to the sharpening for the bright cut 👍
Sorry to hear that. It does get easier. When I get around to my engraving tutorial, that will have practice tasks for bright cutting. I do show how I sharpen these in the sharpening video, along with my 90 degree scorper.
Thank you sir for another great video. Every one I catch tips and tricks to implement in my beginner stages
Cheers fella. So pleased it helps you. There's plenty more to come. 👍🏼
Andy, thanks for sharing your techniques, I like to see production mode in fabrication. I have a loving suggestion for your new channel: explain why you choose to do something in addition to saying what you're doing. Watching this provokes in my mind, the question: "Why did he choose to do that ?" I understand it, but beginners may want to understand your teaching. Makes for good content. Also, did you know there'd an explainable raising that a "fresh" solder join will melt faster than an older one? Zinc is why we can keep using hard solder, join after join. I've had clients request an inline collettewith the shank designed to connect on either side of the collett to keep the stone height down. I do agree that there's too much shoddy work out there on Etsy and elsewhere. Lots of good work, too! Poor teaching - and learning - reaches every low bar. I want some of your homemade small collett blocks! Oh, to have a machine shop and lathe to make every tool I can't find, but need. I bet you could sell them to our metalsmithing community. Definite sub. 👍🏻
Hi. Thanks for taking the time to comment. As stated, the main reason for this one is because of so many bad versions and that I wanted to show people the easiest way of doing things. I normally do mention things like this on videos. I'm trying to keep away from scripts and let it become more natural and chilled. That way people can take from it what they need to. I'd mentioned before in a video about reasons why to use only hard solder, but don't want to sound like a broken record. 🤣
There's another tool that I make and did think about making and selling. But this other tool takes so long I'd be charging £150 for. But a Chinese firm will discover it and make it for £4 because they're set up for it. I've seen it sadly happen with most of the tools people now see every day, but don't realise it's been copied from a little company.
This actual tool though for the collets can even be made with a hand drill for DIY and a diamond cone burr. When this one wears out, I'll make a new one on camera.
There's so much more I'd like to do, but I already work 10-12hours most days in my normal studio work.
Yeah right. Sadly too many people are self taught from watching youtube tutorials that are 10 minutes long and have 90% of the process cut out.
Not all of my videos are tutorials though. I still need to do my fun videos for my own sanity. Not that those videos done well, but I enjoyed making them.
Please stay tuned for lots more to come.
@metalofhonour well, I'm totally on board to watch, and support and learn from you. Thanks
@flyingcheff I appreciate you. You probably noticed the channel is very new, and I'm still finding my way. The jewellery making is the easy bit after almost 28th years. It's the talking on camera and the videography that is the challenging bit. I just got so frustrated seeing the advice people were being given on Facebook groups. It was the blind leading the blind. We all started somewhere, but the people giving advice really had no idea and I had to bite my tounge because my Facebook is linked to my personal business page. So thats why I started. It seems to really be helping people, so I'm really pleased, but I am still digging my way through this learning curve in my own strange way. But hints from people are always welcomed and noted. I have thick skin, so anyone can be as blunt as they wish. 🤣
Thanks again.
@metalofhonour well, I, for one, appreciate you for embarking on that great task: clarifying and explaining WELL. Fantastic! I, too, cringe all too frequently when watching tutorials. Some are excellent, but some... yikes; they can be the blind leading the blind. Concept: fact-checking! I teach, and I will share your channel happily with my students. Super appreciate the absence of gatekeeping. 👏 👏
Fantastic job!
Thank you.
Lots more interesting videos to come 👍🏼
Thanks ive ready enjoyed watching this
@joanneharman2136 that's great. I really appreciate you watching. Currently moving workshops and out of action for a couple of weeks, but lots more videos will be on the way.
Thanks! That's the first time I've really seen polishing threads... They look very useful!
It's really helps on engagement ring too. Very accurate.
Hi Ydna, thanks for the great videos. I've learned how to improve my Etsy-ish work so much already and without feeling insulted lol.
I hope you don't mind a suggestion of putting a tools used list either at the start of the video or better still in the description.
Please keep up the good work
Ah cool. I'm blunt, but never mean to insult. Just want to help, so pleased you've found bits useful.
I did think about a tool list, but I'm hoping people will watch more of the videos and not miss descriptions of tools. It's just that stats show that so many people skip through the vids. It just doesn't help the channel.
Thanks for taking the time for feedback. This really does help the channel.
Thanks, brilliant
Glad you enjoyed it.
Another banger! Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏼
enjoyed the process, graver sharpening will be very welcome.
Thanks for commenting again. After Mondays scheduled video, I'm going to try and do that video as a bonus midweek vid for next week.
Sharpening, yes! But do you make your own gravers? If so, that would be great to see.
@gilliankemp92 for my 90 degree tungsten graver, I do just buy a square rod of tungsten. All other hss gravers, it's just not worth my time to make from scratch. I don't think I've ever even seen someone do that. My hss are the pre formed ones that need trimming and dressing.
That makes sense, thanks for explaining!
I have not done a tube setting before. How do I determine what size stone to use in each tube? Thank you!
@user-zv5yi5ul9j this very different to normal rube setting selection, where people normally use the tube as it is with straight sides. Very unimaginative version that is all over Facebook. That type is very different for working out measurements. This is easy than it looks. My way of using tube and dimensions is to use 1.5 to 2mm bigger than stone diameter, because I do the squashing thing until it looks a good wall thickness and diameter compared to stone. I like to see a good .6 to .8mm of metal around the stone before setting.
I posted this on one of your earier videos - but thought you might see this one first. Once again - great video. I'm looking forward to the nest one. - Quetion, When you do the Bright Cut around the stones, do you prefer to use a #2 Scorper of a #2 Onglette - I have tried both and I'm still not sure which I like better. Cheers Phil
Morning Phil. I only use flat scorpers for bright cut on my round stones. I mainly use flat scorpers on straight edges too. I use the knife edge, spit and onglette mainly for cut lines around the grain work and also for cutting between grains. 👍🏼
@@metalofhonour Thanks - always good to know what other carftspeople are doing. Phil
What is the internal diameter of the tubing...so is there an ideal thickness relative to the stone size? I struggle to push the metal over the stone, and when I do it looks a bit 'etsy'!
I think this tube is about .6mm, but it works out thicker by the time it's compressed. That's why I had to drill out for my stones. I didn't bring my bag home tonight, I'll add to my video list a trouble shooting style stone setting video. I think that would be useful for people. There's about 26 videos on my list currently 😬
"A bit Etsy"!! 😆 Love that! My new go-to descriptor, where appropriate. Thanks 😊
Where would I get the cullet plate?
@@Uvaronova you can generally get them from all jewellery tool suppliers. In England, I use Walsh tools and Cousins UK. Sutton tools are generally a bit expensive.
@@metalofhonour thank you
You talking about mine 😂
Nah mate. You've been here for ages and family now. I'd tell you straight up. When I next see one, I'll screen shot and send to you. I was going to make an etsy version and include it in the video, but couldn't bring myself to do it 🤣
@@metalofhonour just messing with ya well not really my stuff really needs tightened up around the joins of rings like this. I got it. Remember what you said bout you’ll one day just put it all together lol
@macmillion83 yeah, you're all good. I know. I'd soon tell you if it looked like you'd tried to solder in an air fryer or done a final polish in a food processor 😂
@@metalofhonour I was just joking. I know you would hell you have bahaha 🤣 lol am I appreciate that