MG5 - Not So Cheap Now. Is It Still Good Value???
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.พ. 2023
- The MG5 has gone up in price, although not of MGs own doing. So has this changed the landscape when it comes to the extreme value the previous model used to offer?
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I’m still in the old one. Got 5.5 miles per kWh last week on an hours A road run. Can’t beat it
A lot will depend from your previous start point. I came to the MG5 ( original) from a Kia Ceed and a Hyundai Tucson. Both at the time seen as boring but good value. The MG5 was realistically the only EV I was to prepared to give a go because of the price point. Yes it’s not the best EV out there but it’s really a good car but boring, a bit like me I suppose 😁 If I was to change I may consider the South Korean brands again but when it comes to value for money there’s no competition for MG
Love you guys. The last 5 mins - both from a car perspective AND on “our” generation - I couldn’t agree more with. I know we’ve been saying it for a while now but unless the big manufacturers (inc. Tesla) up their game (and lower their prices), MG are going to be the main choice for EVs. Just “which one” as you said.
And musically we’re all shafted.
I've just seen some comments so here's mine. I haven't got £30,000 to waste on a car, be it electric or ICE. I've just picked up a 2011 Nissan Leaf (Japanese import) for £4100. The insurance with 21 years no-claims is £338. What a car! I'm 60 this year and it's the best car I've ever owned. Utter waste of money, cars......always have been, always will be. My Leaf has 6 bars left on it, giving around 40 miles range. It's only 1 mile to Lidl and my furthest relative lives 8 miles away, so what's not to like? I can charge it up from my PV array in a few hours with the 15A charger that came with it. None of this silly £1000 Zappi nonsense. It's going to be an awfully long time before the infrastructure is in place, whereby you have can charge a 500 mile range vehicle that costs less than £15000. In fact, I can see driverless 'taxis' being here before then. I'd love to know how many new electric vehicles are company car purchases or retired people purchases. The only others are the leased ones......no-one who knows the value of money would stump up their hard-earned cash on one, unless of course they're in the £100k+ bracket.....but even then, it's a bad financial move.
@@garysmith5025 Do you charge your car fully from your panels or are you reliant on the grid? The ONLY reason your electric car could possibly be cheaper than a petrol equivalent, is because you charge it with cheap overnight electricity that the WEF (sorry government) is using to bring about 2030, OR you have plenty of land and at least a 20kW array.. Now shut up and roll-up your sleeve for your booster.
It doesn't seem long since Harry was a special guest EVM! Lots of fun when you two review cars together.
Were we in the market to replace our 24kWh Leaf Visio, bought for just under 10 grand in 2015, the MG5 might be a valid choice as we're doing 50 miles a day and still prefer to charge once a week, exclusively at home.
Another fun review, thanks.
Can't wait for your review of the Kucci Van by Armand Helden.
Good video, boys. Don't forget to mention the insurance level - much less than a Tesla!
3:13 - I agree with this, cars are HUGE nowadays.
Another great review of the new mg5. Think I would prefer an mg4 or a used model 3.
I have test driven this car, in the wet, and had no wheel spin issues so I'm not sure what's going on here. Its a perfectly good car and worth considering for anyone who doesn't want to spend a fortune and needs space.
what is under the bonnet, has it a heat exchanger to warm batteries or heating elements. what is the miles per kwh?
If you want or need the space then I think the mg5 is a fine car and good value. I had the previous mg5 long range bought for £26k and was very good value but had a few niggles and quirks eg no cabin preheating, android auto tempramental, auto wiper had a mind of its own, sat nav rubbish. But as a means of getting a load from A to B it was fine. Now the new mg5 looks to have improved the niggles hugely and also looks better, however I eventually settled on a 2022 registered mg4 se standard range in tri coat red for £26,900. I dont really need the extra space nor the long range and I'm happy with my decision. I could have spent a few more £Gs but whats the point? The MG4 drives lovely, still fairly spacious, decent boot and I think its easier to get in and out of, I found the 5 a little low but could have been the seat position. I do prefer buttons to the touch screen, especially as the settings seem to revert to a default every time its switched on but apart from that both are decent cars.
As a Kia Niro EV owner, I love how you use the car to compare every car. Makes me proud 🤣🤣🤣.
Maybe deep down you wish you got the Niro over the tesla 🤣
It’s like the deluxe range at Aldi versus their everyday.
Have the previous version and love it, there are some quirks but value for money can’t really be beaten. However in a couple of years to get another MG5 I would need to see a new model with a bigger leap in offerings. Right now I would probably go MG4. But the MG5 is such a great car.
@6:40 7.7s is to 62mph (100km) its 7.3s to 60mph 👍
I used to have an eNiro, that would regularly spin the wheels pulling out of my side road on to the main road.The m/Kwh seems very poor even for Winter.Looks like you get what you pay for, but seems reasonable value in the world of high EV prices.
You can flatten the back seats if you pull the bench seat out. In the old MG5 a quick pull and it clips in and out easily.
And I love flooring my MG in sport mode when a BMW is reving at lights next to me.
And I'm not fitting a big tent, two camping beds, cooking gear, food, beer, clothes and fishing tackle in a Tesla 😉
Lovely natural Yorkshire non-existent light ;)
Blind spot detection? MG4 Trophy has it, but can't see it on MG5 spec...?
1st launch MG5's and Hyundai Ioniq 39kWh used are great value atm. Sub 20k for exclusive / Premium SE 20-21 plates
Hi there - which model was this?
0:39 i was just reaching for the right-arrow key to skip the intro! 🤣
I know this is basically a refresh rather than a new model but it doesn't hide it very well, the front of the car doesn't look like it belongs to the rear so in effect it looks worse than what it replaced.
MG4 looks & feels a generation ahead of this whatever the spin.
Yeah, I agree.
Unfortunately, not all of us have the luxury of being able to choose our vehicle entirely based on the looks, interior space may be a factor.
I'm still not sure whether to go for the 4 or 5 simply on that basis. It'll end up being decided on a test drive.
I just hope they get back into the motability game
I was looking forward to the new 5 but was a little underwhelmed by it.
Considering the rear isn't what I'd want in an estate I'd just go for the MG4 and live with less space.
There were all sorts of crazy dealer discounts on an mg5 when I test drove one just over 2 years ago. I nearly bought a top of the range one for less than £20k.
I agree, 2021 mg5 ev we're availe for 250/month financing for 5 years. Strange how expensive it is to become
With the introduction of the MG4, MG haven’t done enough to the MG5 to keep it relevant. An estate based on the MG4 in terms of design and platform is probably what they should have done, I presume that will be the next step.
Well it looks better than the 90s Passat it replaced, but still a bit marmite on the looks.
Can you do a vid on EV vs ICE insurance costs?
My C-Max 1.0 2016 is £224, protected no claims, with breakdown cover, 6000miles/year.
How do EV's 'generally' compare?
Bloody expensive. They don't like to talk about this when reviewing EV. My top of the range Mondeo Titanium was 350 ish. My Tesla is 1000. You have to do a lot of mile to get that back. I have asked the popular reviewers to include insurance, or even comment on it but they never do.
I have heard quite a few people mention its more expensive, however I have never done any research myself, with it mentioned quite a few times there must be something in it.
@@keithdenton8386 Wow, I was thinking maybe £50/£100 difference, but that difference is huge. £1000 is a huge premium. I notice with the EV community there is a quite a few negatives that seemingly never get mentioned. Another is the charging it for 7.5 ppkwh with Octopus (they always fail to mention that to get that cheaper rate for 4 hours or whatever, your rate the rest of the time is much higher).
ii have a mg 5 2021 and its £270 a year so not so expensive that is with admiral wiith 12000miles/year plus you get breakdown cover when you have it serviced at a mg garage.
@@keithdenton8386 that's because you drive a Tesla. It's group 50. Not all EVs are in that insurance group. My Kia Niro EV is no more than my last ICE car. Don't base everything related to EVs on Tesla.
The standard tyres are pants. Ditch them for some Crossclimates and it sorts out the wheel spin.
I’ve had an MG5 for six months now - never spun the wheels! Must have a heavy right foot!!
The old is readily available. You can have one without waiting. You will have to pay 7 to 10 grand more for a second hand Tesla over a second hand MG. If you have the cash, you have the options. I didn't and am very happy with my MG. I used to drive my dad's 1991 ford Granada Scorpio. The MG 5 has a similar wofty feel is you drive it in a relaxed way. If you want to burn out the tyres, they would both let you do that. The ford did 12 mpg at times and 28 in cruise control . The world has moved on for the better.
Traction control - it's another thing I can't understand why Tesla as a new manufacturer seems to do so much better than the traditional car makers. In a Tesla with over 400bhp you can just stamp on the accelerator and it sorts it all out and fires you down the road in the direction you point it at a stupid rate of acceleration. In the VW ID3 it fishtails all the way down the road until you back off - maybe more fun if you're hooning around, but a bit disconcerting for pulling out of a junction for a shopping trolley class car.
I'm going really off MG as I have waited for over 12 months for a ZS EV and there is still no sign of it arriving.
Waiting times for the ZS EV are currently 15 ish months and new orders are currently suspended for it. As is price protection.
Youngsters telling us we don't want SUVs .... give it twenty years and you will feel the benefits. low car seating positions always gave me a bad back and made driving uncomfortable, plus getting in a lower car isn't for everyone. the extra space an SUV gives me is handy very occasionally. This SUV and the opinion on the lack of switches make me cringe as all reviewers say the same thing. People are individuals and can choose for themselves. Good channel
As an older driver who used to drive LR Discoveries/Freelanders I can concur SUVs are a stupid waste of road space. They look butt ugly which is appropriate considering the size of many of the butts you see climbing into them. As for buttons I have seen cars drive straight through crossings even when children are crossing because the drivers are playing with a giant touch screen. Screens are cheaper to manufacture than buttons but potentially much more dangerous.
If you bring up 3 year old Tesla M3 by way of comparison, which is valid, why not mention secondhand ID.4 and Kia, etc? After all, the biggest fall in value is the day you put a plate on it.
the vents in my 2021 mg5 are straight off an audi according to the dealer lol
Hello from Australian.
6.50 What the problem? Hope the MG4 is the same got my name down for one.....
7.15 Still can't see a problem...... 🤣🤣
Still stuck in my brain is the MG5 launch price. If memory serves, just under £20k. Smaller battery sure, and with the grant, but still, what a difference.
At that time I was looking for a car, but miles to a unit of fuel. I got a second hand 2yr old Ioniq instead.
Far better car for range 28 kWh battery and 146 miles. easy get over 5 m to a unit.
so costs less to do each mile. and over time that will save thousands over getting a MG or any car that only does 3 or 4 miles
@@davidsworld5837 EV Dabbler's channel regularly provides data that suggests the Ionic is arguably the most efficient EV available, athough sadly discontinued. The previous version of the Hyundai Kona is not far behind it, judging by Jonathan Porterfield Eco Cars.
@@davidsworld5837 you'll save 2p a mile at most. So 50,000 miles to save a grand. So your maths are suspect.
When did you start allowing your carer to drive? 😉
Great show again lads thumbs up I be curious to know your opinion I’m a Taxi Driver most city driving about 90% city with 10% motorway would buy the MG ZS refreshed long range or the MG 5 refreshed long range again lads great show thank you
What about second hand? What would you get for taxi driving then?
"Your own kids" 🤣
Last June I got a year old e2008, brilliant drive, 😂 just could do with an other 50 miles, it charges to about 178 and I drive eco and battery recharge,
Do all MGs come with a Harry...?
I think you have a heavy right foot!
In answer to your question would I go for a brand new MG 5 new or buy a used or second hand Kia Niro or maybe a Tesla Model 3 what would you do if you were a Taxi Driver? again thank you for answering my question keep up the good work you got me thinking
I got one of these on order via salary sacrifice at work. My 1st EV car and gone for the car due to my family, boot and affordability. Coming from a SEAT Tarraco. Just spending too much on fuel £300 a month for 1500 miles.
I ordered mine on salary sacrifice mid December and had it delivered a couple weeks ago at the start of half term 😊 I am quite enjoying it at the moment but think I need the temps to warm appreciably more to get the most out of this vehicle mileage wise. Am only getting 3.2 miles per kWh which seems on par for MG5 owners in winter. From
What I’ve seen 4 miles per kWh is achievable in summer but needs warmer weather for that to happen.
@@boswellwhanau Thanks for the reply - What colour did you go for? I went for black, so wondering if delay for colours etc. So you're getting around 180 miles in winter? I do quite a bit of motorway driving
Yes, we need EV estates, NOT suc's.....but sadly, thos isn't one!
If the floor isnt flat with the rear seats folded, there is no load lip, you cant slide in/out a washing machine or a fridge freezer, ir easily carry a wheelbarrow.....
IT ISNT AN ESTATE!
really I can easy get over 5 miles to a kW in my 28kWh Ioniq. the MG is not refined and with price you will loss out every drive in fuel costs. if you say 50p a unit of electricity then my ioniq cost 10p a mile the MG would cost 20p for the same mile.
its better than it was, but I bet if you could get any other China car make would offer more.
Soo.. You think that IF other imported cars - which aren't available, WERE available....... they'd be better....!?!?
Hmm...
Nobody pays 50p a unit, and the ioniq isnt twice as efficient in the same conditions, so you're just making shit up to justify soending more. You will never make the difference back.
I just refuse to believe a £30k car is considered value. I'm 25 and to me a new Fiesta is under £10k, a Range Rover Sport is £40k and a full fat Range Rover is £50k.
Fiesta starts at £18.5k now.
@@ElectricVehicleMan Not for much longer!
I wonder if the fact it doubled in price contributed to the declining sales and discontinuation!
What are you smoking? A Range Rover is 80k. Are you dreaming up your prices?
@@wiggi1968 now, yes. But about 10-15 years ago they weren't that much
Ah, the “when I were a lad” pricing scheme.
Should be two and six…
So you like the hole at the bottom of the steering wheel? Is it because you like to drive hands free? 😜😜😜
It’s no wonder they’re getting popular as taxis.
Aldi has gone up in price
Who hasn't?
almost the perfect car. if they implemented the v2l the way Kia does with a plug between the seats. because i mainly see myself using it to run a cooler and charge stuff(yes, i know most cars can already power those. but not wile the rest of the car is off). yeah, sure, being able to run a toaster or induction plate off a car might be a good feature(and of course having car reviewers clowning around with a microwave that no one will realistically lug around). but generally, heathing up food is nothing that can't be replaced with a cheap butane burner.
Love your reviews..my next car will be nearly new petrol (around £20,000) will hold onto that to 2030..lets see where we are then..I have no faith in goverment plans in regards to EV.
Manufacturers are starting to switch to EV production now (witness Mercedes and Ford with their F100). Anyone trying to sell an ICE car in five years time is going to struggle. Any manufacturer still making ICE vehicles in six years time risks bankruptcy. The world is moving far faster than people realise. Government plans are irrelevant. The market decides and is on the move.
@@mbak7801 yes it’s definitely changing times ahead…however I believe petrol will be around for at least another 17 years
I have an Citroën E-C4 & I drove the MG5 before getting the Citroën. The suspension, fit & finish of the Citroën E-C4 is far better than the MG5. Also the PCP package on the Citroën is better.
How does the range compare?
@@CastleKnight7 It has a smaller battery about 50 instead of the MG5 70. But I find 200 miles is OK. I drive to the Midlands from Essex about once per month. And it does that. To be fair to the MG5... the MG has more bhp... But 99% of driving, it is not a thing that I worry about. Bearing in mind I'm a motorcyclist, and like bhp.... Actually sold an AMG to go to a BEV. At first it was EV6 GT and fast Tesla's, but after a while I thought "what do I NEED?"... Right, budget to that. Money saved can go towards the "new Ducati fund!"
I got my MG5 at 0% finance which makes it even better value if financing a car
speak for yourself there evm. im wanting and needing an SUV just wish the eniro was AWD and cheaper
We don’t want ALL cars to be SUVs. Which they are right now.
We do want SUVS 😁
What is striking is that EV's depreciate by about £9k after just 3 years, equivalent to £250 per month. That pretty much wipes out any savings on fuel..
So do equivalent ICE cars. 3 series vs model 3 for example.
@@ElectricVehicleMan that's true and has been the case for high-end cars for years, I just wonder with most EV's now starting at £30k, with the possible exception of BYD's smaller cars, how this is going to work on a large scale if ordinary family cars are losing so much from the list price?
@@richmaniow I think that the depreciation is pretty much specific to the UK, and it appears to be true for all models.
The UK used car market is very weird because so many people buy on credit/lease plans.
In most other markets used car prices hold up very well, with EVs holding their value even better.
I am not aware of the depreciation expected on the MG 5, but I know that the leasing industry expects the 4 to be particularly good.
@@richmaniow If the rumors are correct this is already causing issues and lots of dealers are refusing to part ex EV's. Also your depreciation , I was reading on Pistonheads there's a chap who spent £34k on a ID3 in August 2022. All he can get for it now is £24k from WBAC, no dealers will touch it.
@@del4668 yep, I'm struggling to see how ( as things stand) the used EV market is going to function on a large scale, just a few years ago you could pick up a new family run-around for £16k, maybe expect to part exchange after 3 years and loose £4 - £5k with depreciation which I know is still a lot but a certain number of households could afford, but to loose £9k - £10k ( if you can afford £30k in the first place) is beyond what a lot current new buyers can afford to loose, I can see the whole new car market rapidly shrinking further..
Travelling from North Yorkshire to more southerly areas the number of new/nearly new cars really stands out. Then add in the number of chargers available and high number of EVs it is no wonder incentives to buy EVs are being dropped. After all as far as senior civil servants and MPs are concerned 'We all have EVs, all my friends do and even our children's nannies have them'. People making decisions are living in their (for the UK) wealthy bubbles and see no reason to help people switch to EVs.
Y do all car reviewers not like suvs there's a reason there so many about
It’s not so much they’re not liked, every new car is one! No variety.
@@ElectricVehicleMan but it's the way you say we don't want suv at the start
Most people do or they wouldn't sell so many
Would rather get a second hand Tesla or seat Cupar born than a new MG the price and quality don’t match up I think it’s a step backwards over the previous MG quality. I can’t understand why people are raving over the MG 4.
Er, you do know this is an estate car...... And that people buy estate cars because they need an estate car......for, y'know... carrying things around..!?
Estate cars exist for a reason... Y'know, like vans exist for a reason..!?
.. Or boats....
People are raving because the mg4 is a reasonable car at a reasonable price. Not overpriced junk like some evs
Can't be asked with Electric cars
Feel free to ask anything! 😄
Everyone keeps saying we don’t want SUVs
As a wheelchair user with a wheelchair rugby chair - I need an SUV - but one with a decent boot
So many ‘suv’ don’t have a decent sized boot
I don’t want an estate - they are for middle aged guys not 30 odd year old women 😂
it's a wagon, the English are so bad at English
From a dictionary:
/ˈwæɡ.ən/ a vehicle with four wheels, usually pulled by horses or oxen, used for transporting heavy goods, especially in the past.
If you’re American, a dictionary is the one with lots of words but no storyline.
@@ElectricVehicleMan 🤣
No it's an Estate it's our language so we'll say what we want
estate car
noun BRITISH
a car with a large carrying area behind the seats, accessed by a door at the rear.
They used to be called shooting brakes when I were a lad - often with lumps of tree stuck on the outside to enhance the looks
@@timoliver8940 they still have shooting brakes but that's only for sportier versions now