MG ZS (Long Range EV) - What's The Catch?
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- It's miles ahead of anything else not out of MG in terms of pricing, so what's the catch? What's wrong with it?
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I’m the ‘guy at work’ who finally got his MG5 back after it took 72 days to get a replacement heater for my MG5. The fault turned out to be MG changed the part number on the heater and nobody queried it, so the part was never sent.
That said, my garage sorted me out with the short range version of this model. If I had to choose between the short range ZS and the MG5, despite the older infotainment system, I’d still go for my short range 5. However, the model you guys reviewed would change that entirely and I’d go with the the long range ZS. It’s not quite as nice to drive as the 5, but all the other things make it a nicer car overall.
i recently bought an ex demo MG5 Exclusive; 5000 miles on the clock - £22,157. Previous vehicle was a 2004 Range Rover Vogue with LPG conversion - lovely vehicle but was starting to cost more to get through each MOT. Have watched your channel plus others that promote EVs and was impressed with what I saw. Love the MG5 - not quite as comfortable as the Range Rover but the joy of flying past filling stations, instant cabin heat - great value for money - smooth and sure footed car. I'm not worried about having an MG on the drive - it does everything that I need from a vehicle.
Hello, what kind of issues did you have with the car? I’ve had it in my mind to go for a MG5 as it seems too good to be true, in terms of cost and equipment.
@@GavinScrimgeour Hi Gavin - no real issues but since I'm retired I'm not covering a vast mileage - the occasional top up of the battery using the 'granny' charger on Economy 7 is enough for the motoring that I'm doing. There was an issue when I had a home charger installed, a 'wallbox' - it was replaced and it still didn't work; following a full refund I had a Ohme Home Pro charger fitted - that failed to work and the company suggested that there was a fault the car. I had it fully checked out at the local dealers and it had a clean bill of health. The charger company replaced the Ohme Home Pro charger and it worked immediately after installation. The only issue with the vehicle at the moment is the driver's door handle which sometimes sticks in the open position - a minor gripe! Otherwise I have nothing but praise for the car so far!! The build quality is good, the built in satnav is a bit clunky but once the destination is set it gives very good clear mapping and audio instructions; the radio is equally as good as the Harmon Kardon one that was in may Range Rover plus that this has DAB. If you want to use Google maps then you can just plug in your 'phone. At the moment its doing 3 miles per kWh, in the summer I was getting 4 miles per kWh - I use the economy setting plus max regeneration - that seems fine. On cold mornings it quickly defrosts the screens and mirrors and the cabin heats up much quicker than petrol or diesel vehicles. Hope that the foregoing has been useful. If you do decide to buy one, shop around for the best deal. Finally, when I bought the car it was from 202 miles from where I live and the car managed it without needing a top up on the journey and showed that there was still 20 miles in the battery - the journey was on motorways for the majority of the distance.
My dad had the same problem on his MG5 with the door handle sticking out. He used silicone spray. Still good 2 month's later.
@@alanbrad3727 Thanks for the tip - I'll try it. WD 40 half worked!
Got my MG5 with 6 miles on the clock for a little over £2k more than that.
Have done just short of 4000 miles since I got it. No issues!
Great review as always, you seem to be able to cover all the key points whilst keeping it relaxed and entertaining at the same time. Did you know that (I'm pretty sure!) the MG Pilot is by Bosch, your Tesla Model 3 is now made in China and so is the BMW IX? But great that you made the point about the iPhone and Polestar 👍 Those new alloy wheels are hidden behind plastic aero trims, just like some Teslas.
I'm using one of these MGs for couple of months now and so far I'm happy with it and everything works well !!!!
Looking forward to these arriving down under. Great review guys. 👍🔋
Great video. I'm glad you mentioned the Affinity scheme. I took advantage of it as a teacher but nobody else has mentioned it, as far as I know.
I had an original ZS EV Excite and going for a MG 5 long range.The ZS was pretty good but I had a charging fault which then screwed up the 12v battery.The dealer struggled to fix it and eventually put it down to water in one of the HV plugs,and after many months swapping the 12v battery.The other snag was the winter efficiency in the cold,windy,rainy nights on the motorway was not brilliant.About 2-2.2 miles/kWh so slipstreaming became necessary.Not sure if the new one will be better.Apart from that it was pretty good.
Fair play, thats an impressive deal for the cost. Great review as usual, cheers!
Got a ZS Trophy on order, just need it delivered now. Thanks as always
I like this discussion style of review. Very good video. Thanks for making me smile 😊
Really enjoyed watching this video. Lots of information and a bit of fun along the way.
I have just literally cancelled my order for an id3 family, and ordered an mg zs trophy long range lol 😆
Good luck , last time I looked into the MG EV's they had terrible reliability issues...and the range was about 60 % of what was claimed but that's not unique to them .
The rubbish we have 3 they have not had a single problem and used heavily for work
Should have bought a diesel. They are safer and cleaner than any EV and will give you double the range on a full tank
@@Anonymous-ib8so oh dear someone else who listens to "The Sun"
The catch as it turned out ……Please, please do not waste your money on an MG ev. Yes on the surface they are ‘good value’ but the reality in my experience unfortunately is that they are very poorly made, lose a fortune in value even in the first year and the garages that service them are basic and un professional. If you absolutely must buy one don’t buy it new at the very least. I’ve just sold mine in the uk, during my year of ownership I had two steering racks replaced (which was a nightmare because even the garage had to beg to mg to do it the second time) , the doors wouldn’t unlock in the rear, the rear seats when you folded them detached and I would say at least every 03rd time it would not turn on without turning it on an off. I would add something positive though , it was quite nice to drive and also I often got more range out of it in the summer than quoted. I brought it one year ago for £35,500 ( they are now selling them new for £26k believe) and have just sold it for the best offer i could for £19k. I’ve owned lots of cars, they all lose money but nothing like this and I’m not rich so couldn’t afford to keep making this mistake and don’t want anyone else to.
Thanks for the headache!!! I’d purchased a Zoe and then cancelled that after the NCAP…was awaiting an Ora Cat, but that’s been delayed until who knows…I’ve now got this one in my radar!! 🙈🙈🙈 cheers for introducing problems! Loving the content! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I don't think you should wait for Ora Cat, because the production in China is restricted due to supply chain issue. Ora has three models, White Cat, Black Cat and Good Cat (the one to be introduced in the UK). Ora has stopped accepting orders for White Cat and Black Cat. The price for Ora Good Cat was also adjusted upwards. Not just Ora, all EV makers in China are increasing prices for EV because raw materials prices are climbing quickly. For example, BYD has increased Dolphin EV's prices TWICE within the last month. Inflation is real. Everything, from batteries to iron, are getting more expensive. On top of prices increase, customers also have to wait longer for the EV to be delivered. Probably, Ora doesn't know how to price the car in the UK, given the volatility in raw materials prices and low volume of production. My suggestion is that, get an EV now, before the price hike.
Thanks for review guys. Do you feel the lack of reach adjustment in the steering is annoying? Cheers
Great review, and well done as always. The only problem is that you can’t get one at the moment. We ordered ours at the start of January, and we haven’t even been given a delivery date yet. Don’t know how long they’re taking to arrive at the moment but any getting anything out of China at the moment is tricky of course.
I have the 2021 MG ZS EV (model before this video) and its wonderful... I cannot wait to upgrade based on this video (and in 2 years time it's going to be even better)
Wow. What a great review. Glad I have one on order now. Thanks chaps
I’ve just bought one, and the interior is no different to my Mercedes’ even better quality than my plasticky Mercedes’ interior.
I also drive with 32miles charge left from Luton to London. I was amazed, the journey was 65 miles but my35miles managed to get me home all while looking for a charging point along the route. Amazing car . Was very impressed.
I think that 15 - 20 years ago, there was a huge difference between car brands and that the cheap ones were cheaply made and you could tell. The gap between manufacture levels has decreased and I would dare say most if not all low brands have moved to the midstream and are all okay. The premium brands need to work harder to show their extra benefits and MG are certainly throwing a huge question when you save over £7000 from them to the next brand. Certainly an interesting car and maybe they should have a top level with all the toys!!
You're spot on, the gap between let's say Octavia/Golf and Audi A6 is way smaller than it was 20 years ago. If you drive a lot and can easily afford it, it still makes sense to go for higher tier cars, but for normal income people and normal usage, it's not worth it.
In 2015 I bought a 2 year old Peugeot 508 hybrid 4 which was half price of a similar age and milage of an Audi A6 2.0 d and to be honest I don't think Audi is twice as good if I have to do the decision again I will happily take the Peugeot over the Audi for the price I had only one issue with the Peugeot and was fixed under the warranty I did 120k miles no issues.
Or...now hear me out...the big brands have always been way over priced, especially the luxury brands, and a huge percentage of the price was the badge alone. Now that all cars are designed by software, they look similar, and so the only difference is the badge (and reliability which the luxury brands still suffer with, adding extra insult to the injury of the inflated price tag).
MG s are rubbish EVs as a whole are useless but MG and BYD are the worst of the bunch
@@Anonymous-ib8so You may think MG's or BYD are rubbish, I have only heard good reports from people that have owned them. I used to drive an Audi Q5 and swapped to a Kia E Niro that I love. It is so cheap to run and look after, compared to my Audi. Quality is down a bit, but that is all a matter for each person. If you must have Audi BMW quality, then fine, it is just great that choice is given. And surprisingly, no one is forcing anyone to buy and EV.
I have had the long range Trophy model for a month now and I’m very pleased with it. The only issue was the heater not working but that was because I kept it in Eco mode and to save power it cuts the heater in that mode. When driving it slowly around town it has a range of 350 miles but this drops to about 200 miles on motorways or less with lights and heating on. Looking forward to some warm weather to see if the range improves. After 1200 miles it’s great, love driving it and would recommend the MG Trophy to all my friends and family.
less than 200 on the motorway with heating and lights more or less rules this out for me. I do c.100 miles to work and back every day (+ other pootling about) but I live high on the Pennines, with some serious hills going on. I imagine with the motorway, the always cold-climate and the hills, the range could drop to 150 or even less. This just makes me nervous to spend so much money and feel so limited. I imagine having to charge every single day can't be good for the battery over the long term
@@MarthaMansbridge Charging daily is no problem whatsoever. If you have the opportunity to charge at home you have nothing to worry about. There are also fast chargers where you can top up in a matter of minutes. And if you live 100 miles (!) from your work, I would think about making some changes, but that's just me.
@@MarthaMansbridge Your fuel costs alone would pay for a tesla long range car on finance! When buying an electric car on pcp of finance, deduct your current fuel costs off the payments, as you were going to spend that much anyway on fuel. now go out and price up a polestar 2 or Tesla or even a LR MG and see how expensive they arnt.
@@MarthaMansbridge you need to move house or job - must cost a fortune
If you live high on the Pennines i don't know the quality of the roads but going downhill breaking on B roads in turns and such will recharge your batterie on the way. You will have to consider the uphill part and cold weather, but I think you should be ok with the long range version. I drove Ipswich to Hull in about 5C it's 181 miles mostly highway in normal mode and still had 37-40 miles of range when i got there it was my first long range trip and admit i was worried about the range part
Well done lads, great review, really helpful.
Great review as usual with humour and practical observations but did you not reverse in the ZS Long Range? Surely the 360 reversing virtual view with all round cameras was worth a comment!
Good, practical review.
How supportive are the seats?
How is the thigh and lumbar support?
Looks very good and will most likely order one when we go for an ev * hopefully later this year
As a fan of value you might like to know that my MG5EV just had its one year dealer service with the low mileage discount (I've only done four thousand miles this year with working from home) and it cost me the princely sum of £41. That included a year of AA breakdown cover, too, which costs just short of sixty quid on its own. I've not exactly hammered the miles out, but I've had no issues so far and I can't knock the running costs. It's surprisingly efficient, too, getting a solid 200 miles on the motorway in autumn weather (about 180 in freezing winter).
I totally agree Bluepanda - great review by EV man . I love my MG5 - amazing value for money (£20k new through affinity scheme) for the space (464L), efficiency (3.9m/kwh), range (200ish miles) & 7yr warranty. I've had it a year now & done 8500 miles
I keep saying , great value MG EVs and when you are jumping 5-7k to something similar you would be hard pressed to find that difference. Looks are no different to others and actually I like the fact they are less gimmicky in that department. Loving the MG5 LR and I’ve driven most brands, this is up there for me in terms of the whole package
Apart from the obvious, what's the difference between the SUv and estate styes?
@@webstereo the new SUV is a little more modern in its looks but does share some styling with the MG5, such as the automatic controller. The infotainment system is a huge upgrade on the MG5. However I think the MG5 feels a bit more spacious and therefore went for that, plus it’s an estate which is unique in EV world unless you can stretch to a Porsche
I have recently placed my Trophy Connect order at the beginning of January and the lead time to wait is May/June due to semiconductor shortage. I’ve owned the mki ZS EV now for 2 years and it’s a superb car but the benefits highlighted by EVM just improved the car so much (phone app with pre conditioning/charge timers/battery heater (not heat pump)/over the air updates/wifi hot spot (limited to 1gb so no good for kids movie streaming)/ the wheels are now lightweight alloy with Tesla style hubcaps/voice activated commands on trophy connect model like ‘open sunroof’/full led lights / 360 camera/usb connector in rear view mirror for dashcam/obviously bigger battery with 270-300 mile range in summer using eco mode. The list goes on and if you qualify for the public sector worker affinity scheme you get free metallic paint/type 2 cable and a decent discount to boot.
Interesting about the scheme. Wifie works for the NHS, but I notice you have to be within 30 miles of a participating dealership?
The prices as of 12/02/2022 from MG UK website are now:
Short Range ZS SE £27,495,
Long Range ZS SE £29,495,
Long Range ZS Trophy Connect £33,995
@@stuartburns8657 most dealers will be happy to offer affinity deal so just ring around Stuart
@@usfouru2 Nice one thanks Jake 👍
Great video as always. I do have a quick question, does the MG support scheduled/delayed charging to take advantage of off peak ev tariffs?
This version does. Typically it's the charger that does that anyway.
I was on the fence about this brand untill I took a test drive. I thought my turbo diesel had torque until I drove a ZS EV. I am not looking for another EV but now I am getting excited about the MG 4. A golf sized EV seems the right thing for me. Wanted an id3 test drive but was told they could be out of stock for 12 months. Thanks for the video EVM. I am over any predudic after one test drive.
If you travel a long trip, you'll wish you had the diesel.
I actually went and had a look at one and as someone that 6ft 5 my only small grip was there no reach on the steering wheel only rake. Overall plenty of head room and a great EV for a family.
yeh i saw in one, for me i am 6ft 3 and it was a deall breaker for me, i litterally could not get a decent position...where as even in the fiat 500e icon model which does not have seat height adjustment as standard that car was perfect headroom wise and leg room
Really like the look of these. Potentially my next EV after my e208. The only thing I think that lets it down is the charging speed. Would be great if they were able to charge at 100+kW, then it would be unstoppable on long journeys. An hour to charge to 80% is quite long.
There’s conflicting reviews on charging speed. Some say 76kw max others 79kw. However the MG Europe site states 92kw.
They tested it here in Norway.
It hit 92kw charging.
They also got close to stated range at close to 0c temps
I may have to get myself one of them. 👍 🚕 Thanks @Electric Vehicle Man 😀
Absolutely love mine, sooooo reliable. Incredible value.
How long have you had it for?
I am running an MG5 and it is great and the dealer I got my car from is superb I would recommend them to all cheers Gary
Great video guys
i just love the way you guys present the review and i agree with you all the way. I have just ordered my MG ZS trophy long range and i don't care what my Audi etron BM and Tesla neighbours think of the car. I’m not ready to pay that much money do get the tiny difference in driving. I would have if i lived in Germany and had the Auto ban to deal with but with the roads we have here it's not worth it.
I've got one of these on order to, hopefully, come in May. I visited Kia and loved the look of the e-Niro, but the price was like 😳 Went to see the Hyundai Kona- HATED IT!! I don't know how that's being raved about. It felt so cheap after the e-Niro! It felt and looked like a child had fixed a box inbetween the front seats. Then the MG. Couldn't fault it. I was thinking there must be a catch, because, to me, it was waaay closervin quality to the e-Niro. So I went to look at the Peugeot e2008. The drive on that was smooth. It looked great, inside and out. My issue was how low it was. And the battery was a lot smaller than the MG. My friend came with me on the test drive on the MG. She said "why are you even bothering to have another look at the Peugeot? It's a no brainer! You're considering a car that isn't as good, just for a tiny light feature?!". The Peugeot has a led type interior light that I loved. Turns out you can buy those on Amazon if you want them. So MG it was!! And I have no regrets or second thoughts. Because it really is the best out of the 4. In terms of price, features, battery. Gotta be weighed up like that. It equals the Kia if you weigh it up on price and what you're getting.
Have you got it. I hope you are enjoying it. I'm also thinking of getting MG long range.
Did you get the led light? If so do you have a link?
Are u dead bro
Good review, thanks. The MG badge used to be prized, but no longer, so badge snobbery will still limit sales.
2.8 miles/Kwh even in Winter is poor, but on Octopus Go still less than 3p/mile. I like the sun roof/panoramic, but would miss a powered tail lift.
Yes I have an EV, and shop at Aldi/Lidl
On the contrary, anything over 2.5 in winter is pretty impressive if you ask me? Not sure what you’re comparing it to (any examples?)
@@DSonBlue My eNiro would do 4m/Kwh in Summer and 3.5 in Winter, with heat pump.
My current EV is a Kia EV6 and I am in my second winter now, it is a much bigger car with dual motors and the big 20 inch wheels, it does 3.6 in Summer and 3.1 in Winter, no heat pump.
I have never reset my display on the EV6 and my cumulative after 12000 miles is 3.5.
All depends how you drive and the mix between local and motorway, much more economical round town.
However the MG is a much lower cost car, and you could probably run it for life on the savings over the EV6
@@johndoyle4723 Really interesting, thanks for the info. I’m still new to EV - however one thing I tend to do now is look at the elec consumption in order to calculate the m/kwh rating. I think some cars sometimes show an incorrect figure. Maybe not in your case if you’ve never reset the total mileage counter.
Thanks for another great video
We're hopefully going for a test drive in this on Monday. After watching your video I'm really looking forward to it. Where did you find it for £27k I'd love to know that. Some EVs are getting to the point of pricing us out of the ev market not because of the overall cost of ownership but because of the monthly payment. But I really don't want to go back to buying petrol. We've been driving electric since 2013 - 2014 (I can't remember which) and other than the odd loan car have never paid for petrol in that time.
Not ugly. Not great looking. She’s a keeper! Job done
This looks better the the VW range esp the dash , just wished they gave steering wheel reach adjustment as this maybe a problem for some people , for me esp at the price point I would buy this
I’ve a 40kw leaf up for renewal soon and I’m eyeing this up, great review for the real world.
40kwh. Keep it as the lead is way more efficient for the 30kwh availability. Your going to spend more on electricity for this heavy beast.
4 miles/ kWh Vs 2.9
i got mine Yesterday and i Love it :) (same spec and color to) and that blue looks so much beter in person.
Great review, as always. Good to see some real world comparisons (at least the prices), this really does almost tick all my boxes. I think the only thing you missed out was the 10%-80% recharge time. I guess summer range is about 210-230 if sticking to that “middle ground” of range with your charging regime. So that is fine for my bladder range, tick! But if I have to wait 45mins (I.e. 15 mins longer than I would budget for a pit stop with food) then I might start questioning my decision to buy it. Can you or someone else with one let me know how they get on with that on long range trips? It’s not a massive amount of time but over 25 trips it’s almost a day wasted.
Personally, I’m hoping charging becomes the new “range” metric, when cars can do the 10-80 in sub-20 minutes or add 50-100 miles in about 10 then one of the final arguments for ICE is crumbling.
Everyone has mobile phone nowadays. So they just can spend extra 10-20min on it . I will recommend short walk wheatearpermitted.
Got one in order having sold my 2017 Tiguan. I friggin loved that car! But been looking for a bargain decent range car that can take me to London without too much mileage anxiety. Anyway loved the test drive and have a blue trophy long range in order. Just getting impatient now - I want it now!!
Congrats.. what's their estimate to deliver it?
My one should be with me next week....looking forward to delivery. Living in Tenerife has certain advantages.....my top of the range (red) ZS comes in at £24k when electric car subsidy and lower tax rates are applied.
Is there any information on battery management or charging limitations?
Great video. Seriously considering this car over all the others in this price range. It just out performs on all fronts basically. I do worry about availability though. Hopefully when I do put the money down, I'm not waiting too long.
Father in laws long range 5 came in 6 weeks
Ours is 4month wait.
You can shop around dealers to find some already on way to show rooms
Had one on order since beginning of Dec and delivery has been pushed back to April/May from end of Feb.
Same problem with all makes at the moment though
Yes got one on order from RED at a certain southern reseller. Hopefully I’ll get a good price for my old Leaf so I can pay cash.
I've ordered one through a lease deal, I found when telling people what I have ordered most either don't know mg or have an issue with the badge.
Good thing is I have test drove this and loved it, looking forward to the delivery day :)
The badge is good no problems with it falling off
Great Review.
How does the big battery version standard spec compare to my benchmark of an Enyaq 60v (in terms of price and range) which seems to produce about 200 miles per 100% charge.?
Your mate is right that at the very least the cost/range/equipment will force other manufacturers to produce competitive specifications.
Incidentally, is the sunroof etc standard equipment ?
Keep up the good work !
It is on trophy spec or above.
Hi Both. Been watching you both for over three years but have now gone the whole hog and spent the 99p so been looking back over the channel at you and Harry. I’m a new EV owner we’ll newish had my Nissan Leaf for 2 1/2 years, had 8 Nissan’s mostly Qashqui petrol and diesel when I was working. I’ve started to look at what to get next ?
1. Happy with the EV type. 2. Would like a Qashqui in electric, told Nissan I think they have missed the boat on this one as I’m looking at other makes.
3. Will probably go and get a MG ZS or 5 ? 4. It’s cheaper than a Leaf and would go for the larger battery to replace my 40 kWH Leaf, as it’s like a Qashqui. The only thing I may not get that I like with my Leaf is the very good ONE PEDEL DRIVING which I use most of the time.
So what do you both think? Most EV reviewers rate the MG value for money every time. I’m so disappointed with Nissan they are losing customers and letting others take there business away from them.
I also have home charging, plus solar panels and home battery. 18 months ago traded in my wife’s petrol Corsa for a used EV Zoe with battery lease, 28,000 miles on it for £6,000 pleased with that deal also. As both of us don’t do the mileage that we used to, active 70 year olds living in Kent England.
Thanks Bob Blood.
That’s the best option. Although they’ve stopped taking orders for a while.
Only question I have (to save a trip to my nearest dealership), because of "partner that is five foot" - does the driver seat have vertical adjustment? Both front seats would of course be better, but driver's side is the important one.
I wonder if you can enlighten me, I put 80 miles of charge which should be the equivalent of 20 kw in my Tesla when I used the mileage from when I charged I had only used 14 kw?
We want to use our Long Range AWD Model 3 to drive from the near the French Pyrenees to UK but all the Apps say the journey would be about twice the time, than with our diesel car. So which do we use? The Tesla or our Peugeot Rifter? 12hrs or 6½? Also can I use my pack of RFID cards and Apps (Freshmile,Chargemap etc etc) in UK or not?
Hi, could you please clarify the pricing that you mention in the video:
@ 12mins timestamp - You say you had a bit of a google and the long range SE you found for £27,500. Was that normal pricing or affinity pricing?
@ 12mins 50sec timestamp, you mention the affinity scheme pricing is £26,500 - what spec was that? Long range Trophy?
Thanks!
Normal pricing and base spec.
I got mine and I am happy with it
Thing you need to keep in mind quality wise is SAIC have virtually raided the VAG parts bin. They are the largest VAG car builder/ producer outside of Europe. The MG has been produced using a lot of VAG parts so quality is already there, you simply cannot deny the quality on these vehicles you simply have to get over the prejudice of Chinese built vehicle.
Didn’t realise that. Now that I’m looking, the round air vents are from an Audi A3.
Well everything else that we buy is Chinese so why not your car?
You assume that VAG are a quality brand, in my eyes they are not. Very conservative and lagging behind Japanese brands in terms of innovation IMHO
And perhaps accept the disappointing residuals come trade in time? Unless of course you buy another MG....
18:00 Is it a heat pump heater or an old fashioned resistive one? The resistive ones do waste energy.
Got one over the Ioniq 5, it has a rear wiper.
Have you been able to make the V2L work. I reckon with V2L and a few home batteries you could basically have nearly zero electricity bills. Is there a way to email you to discuss 🤔
Talking about cold weather driving, is the battery pack air cooled or is that a thing of the past with all new ev's? Can you preheat / precondition the battery?
Liquid cooled.
Hi Guys, thoroughly enjoyed the video. I bought my ZS EV Luxury last sept and have now done 5500 kms. I paid 18,000€ for it BRAND NEW, as it was a run-out model before the facelift version came in.
We both love it to bits but there are things I would change :
1. During winter temps (down to -7°) the range is affected significantly, above 7° max range in Eco mode with HVAC turned off is 260-280 kms below 0° it's more like 230-240 kms. I plug her in most nights from about midnight to 8am;
2 the cabin heater is not hot enough during the above cold temps;
3. The ride is slightly on the firm side.
I'm very pleased with the car to the extent that in the foreseeable future I can see myself upgrading to a long-rang ZS or Model 5 estate.
Do You know if the car you tested has a heat pump for the HVAC or a coiled wire resistance like in fan heaters and my car?
PS I almost always drive my car in ECO mode - no problems with traction, more range all good.
PPS - March 12th 2022 In the milder temps we are currently enjoying I am getting 310 kms from an overnight charge.
Hi David. I have the pre face-lift MG ZS ev as well and I can tell you that the Eco mode does next to nothing to increase range apart from decapitation the cabin heater and dulling down throttle response to try and get you to accelerate slower. With Eco on the cabin heater is next to useless and I tested driving both in Eco mode and in normal mode with no AC on and efficiency was virtually identical. As such I don't believe driving in Eco mode is worth it, especially when heat is more important than eeking out those extra couple of miles.
Your range figures are what would call significantly reduced
Great car generally and very pleased with mine. Tiny gripes about lighting (none in the back and none over the vanity mirrors) and a shame the CarPlay needs a cable but… I LOVE IT 🥰
Missed the USB socket by the mirror for dashcam 😎
We’ve got a Long Range Trophy Connect which, all being well, should be here in April. We have been toying with the idea of an EV in the house for years. Thought about a Model 3 and a big battery I’d.3. Test drove the MG and that was it! Simply couldn’t justify the premium of the ID.3 or Tesla🙅♀️
I drove a Tesla and came to the same conclusion. If the price was a lot closer I might have considered the Tesla, but I got my MG5 exclusive 52kw brand new for £24,000.
Another £20,000 for the Tesla?
Not happening.
Plus this is a hatchback. I saw a Model 3 leaving the local builders merchants with lengths of wood stuck out of the window like I once had to when I had a 1974 Ford Escort. The Model Y solves that but is even more expensive (in the U.K.)
Maybe when you review cars could you also link to the exact spec of the one you are driving? Just so people can see it in black and white as well as watching your good reviews.
These reviews are great. What's missing from most reviews though is testing parking and maneouvering the car. That would show clearly how good visibility is, and cameras / sensors, etc. I care as much about this stuff than the 'drive'. Any problems in that area will piss me off pretty quickly, even if the car is great at cornering.
Also - no. heated. steering wheel!!
Another great review. Thank you both. Love your honesty & down to earthness.
We've had a MG ZS EV Long Range Trophy on order since November. Can't wait to get it now.
On a totally seperate topic. We took the plunge after seeing your great review on your solar PV system & went for @GivEnergy battery storage too. So hopefully will have some spare electric to charge the MG 😊. Incidentally, how's your system going? Any updates?
Enjoy the rest of the weekend.
Best wishes from Cornwall.
What's the battery chemistry ? (LFP ?)
Nicely explained... What can be reliability/ life of battery🔋?
How much investment is required for replacement of battery.
The battery has a 7 year warranty. You wouldn't replace the battery, you'd get it refurbished. Just as you might with an engine that became worn or tired. I've watched a 10 year old Nissan Leaf get a battery refurbishment on TH-cam, carried out by a well known independent EV specialist. The refurb took 4 hours, and cost the Leaf owner £500.
Great video
The zs EV has a usb socket behind the mirror. EVM with your experiences of dash cams. What should we be looking for? If we save £7k on an MG can you show is the dash cams we should have. We may need them if the dealer washes the car!
What’s the (braked) towing limit on this? I have small caravan at 1050kg
Mine arrives in May! Lease deal very cheap. Can’t go wrong for what I want and need. Hoping they also bring the Marvel to the UK.
I have a strange question. I hope to get one (though the waiting list is enormous. In Thailand where I live, the MG ZS EV is a connected car which I don't like. I have some chats with people on this and the question now is where the antennas for this are because I want to be able to disconnect them. Any idea?
Nice.Thanks lads.
all of the motoring press appear to have been given the blue ? , I prefer the red though think its looks well in black as well and silver
Good choice of radio station. I have the MG5 on its way myself. I love an estate.
One thing which reviewers seem to overlook is the regen braking set up on the ZS. Unlike an ID3, Ioniq or eC4 which increase the level of regen as the brake pedal is applied, regardless of which regen level has been selected, the friction brake only coming into play to kill the last 2-3 mph. The ZS can only go to a pre-set maximum in each of the three settings and uses much more friction braking when the brake pedal is operated.
Its even worse in ACC. NO regen whatsoever is used - its purely reliant on the friction brake for slowing down. MG seem to lost the plot over this, perhaps in the pursuit of making it cheaper or to make the system less complex. Either way it's a disappointing situation and wouldn't make it my choice of EV
That’s a massive amount of space in the boot area!! I think it might well have done better than my current Renault Zoe, but I now have the experience to choose an electric vehicle!! I have two electric vehicles, the Renault Zoe and a folding bike!!
I have one on order delivery is due in mid April can wait for it to arrive I’ve driven a wide range of EV’S in my working life the only observation I have to make is that battery size was the main driver behind my choice it’s an absolute steal of a car for the money
We want an EV for camping. Don't like wide cars, but need the carrying capacity. This is compact - only 1809 mm wide (cf 1852 for the ID.4, 1890 for the Kia Ioniq 5) - yet has reasonably space and the towing capability of 500kg which means we can take our Erde trailer when we need extra space. Must give this a try. Incidentally, really good point about the money saved being spent on solar panels, which can then be used to charge the car for free!
Just ordered an mgzsev trophy connect for delivery in September.
Hope I have an enjoyable time.
Did you mention the CCS charging speed? Sorry if I missed it. Also, what's the CCS charging speed?
CCS is 75kW
AC changing is 7kW
R u serious my fatherony
Hey guys, if you had to choose between the MG ZS EV long range trophy and the Hyundai kona EV ultimate at only £100 difference, what would you go for and why??
Nothing wrong with the styling; it’s slightly underwheeled but that wouldn’t bother me. Very interested in this one.
Good review, are you planning on reviewing the EV 6 on the road ?
Next month.
Loving my mg5 SR... Good cars for a fair price
I echo that. I have the Excite, so no "leather" seats, but there is nothing on the Exclusive that I really miss. As above, good car at a very fair price
I've got a 72 plate but I dont have a wireless charger! Is it standard or maybe I have a fuse not working. .. or is it the upgrade feom mine
They mention that this car is made in China. They forgot to say that also Volvo an Volkswagen are also made in China. Many other brands are also made in China. I like MG ZS EV and plan to buy one in the new year.
I spotted a new one of these a few days ago with a black grille. From what I saw, the grille looked like it was painted, but did look more "normal" than the body coloured version.
I placed an order for one yesterday after having a Kia Sportage.
The only thing that it doesn't have is a coherent design language, but that will come over time.
I'm not regretting my new Kona, especially as I got in just before the grant dropped. I don't think the long range Kona is eligible now. If I were making the same decision now I would give this ZS a long hard look. The cabin, boot space and range for the money is so impressive.
I have the Kona electric of 2019 which had many Recalls and now they are going to replace the whole battery - as they are dangerous. After telling me last year- to reduce charge to 90% I am yet waiting in a queue to replace mine!! Will never buy or recommend a Kona. The new Kia Nero is much better and a larger boot too!
@Sidha Sambandan the battery recall situation is terrible. I thought my last car (ioniq 38kWh) was affected, but it was by about a month out luckily. The same cell recall is causing massive problems for Chevy Bolt in the US. It's doing the image of all EV no good. I hope you get yours sorted soon with a brand new pack.
@@DrSam112 isn’t the Niro just the same car wearing a different jacket, same power cell, same motors.
@@WEZ4136 Maybe the same chassis and motor but the battery is from a different manufacturer.
I got a black MG ZS EV Trophy facelift Standard Range(199 miles) last week and I absolutely love it so far. Quite a few dealers have Standard Range currently in stock, in the trophy and SE trim. I would go for Trophy over SE as it gives me heated front seats, panaromic sun roof and faux leather seats as the main differentiators. They also have a iSmart app that lets us do a few basic functions remotely. App is a bit fiddly but does the work once connected. I think MG have listened to customer concerns over the Excite/Exclusive models and have fixed about 95% of the issues. Overall really pleased with my purchase. With affinity discount it cost me £26500 for a Trophy trim. What more can one ask for at that price!
Can you use the app to remotely activate and change the AC in terms of both heating/defrosting or chilling the car (in the summer)?
@@erik.dahlberg Yes that is possible. It preheats the car, turns the AC on and also defrosts the windscreen via the app. Also they have included auto turn off set to 10 mins to save the battery. You can turn it off before that if you wish to.
On vanorama you can get 1 year insurance and wall plugs including the monthly price is that worth getting because I’m considering it and then the price between £250 or £300 but I don’t know which trim it is what do you think about it
Leasing is insane right not compared to financing.
Privately anyway.
We ordered ours from Vanarama last year and comes in March, we went for the bottom range, the difference between the bottom and the popular next range up is not nothing you can't live without, with the bottom range you only loose the fake leather,The sunroof,4 speakers instead of 6,Some rear cross traffic warning thing,Roof bars,Auto wipers, Thats about it, other than sunroof the wife can live without the rest. Everything else is the same,I'll take that to save 50 quid a month.
Can you confirm does it have coast mode for regen, ie: 0 regen?
Yep, I test drove one a few weeks ago and Kers 1 is coasting, 2 is like my old Leaf, 3 is like putting your foot on the brake.
Loving the 71 plate MG5EV, great car, but I seem to hurt my foot and leg with that darn Accelerator pedal position, there’s something about it’s position that’s wrong. Wondering if the MG ZS has the same issue
Yeah Xander i think the raised floor height makes the pedals on the MG5 a bit awkward for me too (6'2"). On longer runs my L foot ends up driving behind the brake pedal quite lot of the time!
@@davidtaylor6577 I also seem to mistakenly apply the foot brake when transitioning to the accelerator to the brake occasionally, seems the pedals are a little too close then as well
Interested to see what price the MG3 EV comes in at. 5 star EuroNCAP. That's 5 more stars than the Renault Zoe.
_cries in Zoe owner_
Hi David, I don’t think the mg3 EV is coming as mg are releasing an id3 sized EV that will cost £22-26k
@@usfouru2 That's a shame, looking at how MG are progressing I would have given it fair consideration when I look to replace my Zoe. Probably looking at the Corsa E or E208, however I do find the Ora Cat intriguing 🤔
@@davidbrown7379 I have my mother in laws E208 on my drive as we speak 130 miles only in winter and I would say same for corsa. Ora cat might be slightly more with a 60kwh ish battery for £22-25k. Mg EVs will continue to offer value for money. MG ZS EV facelift / MG5 estate facelift due Sep22 / id3 sized MG EV toward end of 22 and the 2 seater sports car Cyberster early 23
That’s 5 more. 1 ,2,3,4,5 more stars ⭐️ 😂
A lot of that interior reminds me of my 2013 polo. I wonder if it's all old VW stuff? things like the wheel buttons, door cards, door buttons etc.