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I am a teacher but to military kids overseas. Their attitude is very different in terms of kids in the US versus the kids I teach. The kids I teach - black or white have high expectations. I have not had a "I wanna be a rapper or sports person" in years. Aspirations black and white: Biochemist, lawyers, doctors, business owners. It's nurture and environment that makes a difference.
@@ThisBahamianGyal I really love your program. Your honesty and intentions are insightful and valuable. Your light shines brightly. And your courage will take it where it is needed. God Bless us all. Peace.
Why is it that if a group perpetuates a stereotype, they get mad about it. When they do and show other actions away from the stereotype, they are called out, saying you are not one of us. Which do they want, expanding your horizons or being the typical stereotype and getting mad at other people for pointing out the problems🤔😮
Everything about who we are as black people, as a black culture is learned behavior. Meaning that we teach this sort of negativity amongst ourselves. It’s passed on from generation to generation, from grandma and grandpa to child to grandchild and so on. We learn to express this negativity and black hate amongst ourselves.
I think some black people are just envious of other black people. I think that's what this is. They're very embarrassed because nothing's going on for them. So that's criticized other people instead don't look at me wrong. Good questions is good, but not through jealousy. Oh bad mindness
I agree. I’m not black but have really only been friends with more black people then any other race so I’ve spent a lot of time sharing feelings with black friends, mostly girls, and some of the things they’ve told me they were taught by their own moms was heartbreaking. I know it’s not every black household mostly in the south where we’re from but some “lessons” were plan sad and some were so ridiculously laughable.
I was a Peace Corps Volunteer in Guyana and there was a Volunteer from Nigeria (naturalized US citizen) whose father was a physician who got his MD from the University of Vienna and she wanted to get her MD from the same university. She came to me complaining because the female African American Volunteers were always ragging her because she wasn't "Black enough". Why? Because she spoke British English, didn't want to get "ghetto", and was planning to be a physician.
"I want you to win but I don't want you to win more than me.".... There is an African (Yoruba) equivalent of that saying and it goes like "I want you to eat but I don't want you to be belly full."...
As a black man born to Jamaican parents, I've become sick of this crab mentality that has permeated the black community for years now. We've been taught (either by clueless celebrities and exploitive politicians) that black people aren't meant to succeed without aid, and the ones that do are vilified. We've become too used to thinking that we can't get ahead without help from the government or some whack ass movement, so when we actually see a black person have any kind of success, we have to pull them back down to our level. "If I'm not succeeding, then they can't either." It's disgusting. I hate that shit. We talk all the time how we need to become autonomous and depend on ourselves and rise up for the sake of our community, only to be brought down by those same people. If it wasn't for the system telling them they can never make it, then we wouldn't think this way. It makes it that much harder for me to call my self a part of the black community; I'm even almost embarrassed by it.
I hate your type of blanket judge Black people. You support seeing Blacks in chains struggling against all odds to survive but for God's sake don't raise their voice. But of course, you will accuse them as victims. Sickening
There are many black conservatives that do not play into that mentality at all. I’ve started watching several of them this past year and it’s been truly eye opening and refreshing to hear about success being made and a POSITIVE message being said for others to hear.
There is no almost for me. I am downright embarrassed by it and disgusted. Even though I know it has nothing to do with me personally i know I’m still shoved into that box and it makes livid sometimes.
Yes 💯 many blk ppl are still and have made progress and success. Their just not the focus or care to be a topic in the media instead taking care and raise their families. Studies have shown by large the most successful black ppl in America have come from the West Indies. And has continued for generations. Go figure. Lol😂🎉
As a young 16-year-old homeschooled black boy from Louisiana, I love your content, you are so beautiful and God bless you! I would love it if you would talk about the incident were two black boys from Las Vegas joyrided, stole a car and ran over a white sheriff that was on a bike because baby, that was so ghetto! Criticism about the black community should be completely valid! At the end of the day, if black people can criticize people of other races each and every single second, why shouldn't people of other races be allowed or have the right to hold us accountable for ghetto behaviors and terrible actions?! It's ridiculous, especially as a young person, who is a beliver in God and is more conservative or center-right. I don't wanna be around people who look like me, I want to be around people who THINK like me.
I'm a white 37 yr old guy from rural NC so I'm probably visually someone who your audience wouldn't care to hear speak on this. But I also attended 2 HBCU's for an undergraduate degree, lived in a predominately black Caribbean country for nearly a decade and both my ex and current wife are black. I've seen many of these things you're addressing from a spectator seat of sorts. I recall getting in an arguement in college because I hated the automatic "You're acting/speaking white" label thrown on black friends of mine who were more eloquent in speaking or not interested in stereotypical activites. Then when I stated that was hypocritical of them they spun it and said that I was being racist. I told them "I criticize PEOPLE....and it's always on their actions as an individual. The same way I choose my friends based on their character. Is that not the point?" They could NOT prove me wrong.
Your opinion is more than welcomed and appreciated. I'm actually sick and tired of ppl saying another group of ppl can't speak on a topic all because they aren't black, tr@n$, (insert supposedly oppressed identify) etc. You and anyone else can add value to the subject.
Nah, I think you should stay out of black conversations. The victim mentality was derived from people who were actually victimized by people who look like you. You have colonized not only lands but minds and now people who look like you hypocritically do most of the criticizing.
My grandmother always said, “black people are like crabs in a barrow!”Every time a crab try’s to get out of the barrow another crab is pulling the crab back down. She told me that at 9 years old…
And my grandmother said maybe they're not pulling each other down, maybe the one at the top is trying to pull them up. You have to be careful of other's perspectives.
The question that is never asked is , is the barrel the natural habitat of crabs? If not, then how did the crabs end up in the barrel? And the crabs couldn't have gotten in the barrel by themselves, so who put them in there?
I grew up raised by a redneck backwoods white family and many of that demographic can’t take accountability for their bad actions too. It’s always someone else’s fault or cause they were abused as kids or cause they’re poor but they never made a positive change to uplift themselves. I grew up learning what NOT to do in order not to turn out like them cause I wanted better for myself. I’m not better than anyone and I’m not perfect but I do wish more young people in the backwoods or ghettos would feel that way too. You are not your environment and you don’t have to stay down. You have beautiful potential and could do great things.
You could do a four volume series on the skin bleaching epidemic, paternity fraud, scamming, colonial mentality, anti Blackness, colorism, parasitic behavior, etc, of the Caribbean community, but you want to present as the “ civilized Blacks” vid a via Black Americans, which you all have done for generations. Lol even while having travel advisories and degeneracy galore. Why are you not wagging your finger at the high crime, criminality, and other ills in the Caribbean, UK, Canada and U. S.?l of your OWN people? The lectures are only for Black Americans, correct? Again, you have no content unless you act as if you are sitting high and narrating and assessing everything that Black Americans do. It is also strange since more than ever , Black Americans are refusing to be force teamed with others. You are not giving Black Americans the rules of engagement about anything. Check your own and leave us alone. We don’t go to other peoples counties doing this. It is beyond disrespectful.
Even if that's true because the new agenda is to make black people look like they do everything wrong sooner or later it will switch to either black people were lying about slavery we caused all the racism on the planet it could even get as ridiculous as we owe white people money for slavery!
And what I mean by my sarcastic comment is this trend to say black people are so bad for saying something racist while implying but not saying white people have never been racist!
Soooo if a person(Regardless of Race) speaks well, is Educated, is not a Thug, treats women as women. Why are they NOT a real member of their community?? Help me make sense of this
I was born in the 1960s, the last of 7 siblings and I was the lightest skinned of them all. I loved r&b music, soul and funk, but I also liked pop music, jazz, blues, rock and classical. I read a lot and I wanted to be an architect. At the the age of 10, 11 my own family used to tell me that: "you think you're white". And it's shameful the crabs in a barrel attitude that prevades us because we're afraid of someone who has hopes and aspirations--how dare you have dreams, those are things for white people. I've never adopted that mentality because it's victim claiming. Believe it or not, our family doctor, who used to make housecalls in the community when needed, was a black woman from the Caribbean, Dr McCaskey. Did not love the woman because when it came time to get a needle in butt she would take out a strap to get my compliance. Lol. Such a role model for black people in Harlem. Imagine her struggles as she went through medical school in probably the 1940s. Keep up your great work, Rogan.
Ohhh goodness! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I could not stop laughing to the last section of this post. Back in the day.. those types of ol' school, well mannered nurses and grandmas don't take nonsense when it comes to getting the needle. Very direct, very professional types of women. They could fire a needle in two butts even if they flew past.
People: "We need more representation of black in all sectors of life, but the white man is gatekeeping." *Black Kid/s wanna doctors, authors, architects etc, etc. Same people (to those kids): "Why you wanna be white for?!" 🙄
@@ancientfuture9690 white man is not gatekeeping anything. There are a multitude of black people in the history of technology, medicine and engineering. The problem is that black people crush their dreams or don't foster it. If my family doctor, who is not alone, can achieve her dreams in circa 1940s, there is no excuse for black people now. In fact, more Caribbean blacks, while having suffered the same slavery history, have excelled in professions far greater than American blacks. Reason why, they are not discouraged. Heck, even Africans come here and do well.
Thank you so much for sharing that story!!! You are such a good storyteller. I hate when our people tell our kids, "you think you're white." We should be encouraging one another and shoukd be happy our kids have big aspirations. It really is a 🦀 in the barrel attitude.
@@frankiecrocker I'm in agreement with you btw. I was describing people of the same group that shoot the others down for aspiring for the things that is complained about them not having.
This is one of massive criticisms I have towards our community, we take no accountability and we'll do anything to move the goal post just to shut doen the conversation. We're so quick to tell others what they should or shouldn't do but we never practice what we preach. It gives me a migraine beyond belief
I'm a white girl who grew up in a diverse neighborhood. My best friend was black and she always got called an oreo because she spoke "more white than I did." Some of the black kids at my school would actually make fun of us and call her an oreo and me an inside out oreo. She always said she didn't care and then about ten years after highschool she told me it hurt her so much but she didn't want to tell me because from her perspective I was technically being complimented while she was being bullied
@@wakawaka1976 No but not because of anything to do with arbitrary things like race. She had a family and I had a lot of health issues so we got busy and grew apart.
@@penguinabroad that’s just how life is… but man I wish you could have stayed close. We as people just keep moving on though. New cities new jobs etc. I don’t hang with any of my old friends but I’m more of a home body anyhow. Just cool when people are lucky enough to keep it going
This hate has been instilled in Black People, just like comformity, I am from Chicago lived there 37yrs. and re-located 20yrs ago to Middle GA. When I return to visit my family and friends, It is frightening and I grew up right off of Chicago ave and St. Louis when gangs were prevalent but now its like a war zone.....
I have always opined that racism is an imperfect human construct. And if we were to suddenly become the "same" in every way (color, language, physicality) We would find something to single ourselves out and distinguish/group one another. We need to stop with the kicking down the ladder and crab barrel nonsense
And the gatekeeping. Soon as someone not black uses hip hop influence in their music, black ppl (regular black ppl who has nothing to do with its contribution) wants special treatment.
@@mato_fato_ma-ah-fala-falafel i have never seen another group of people be so overprotective their culture and with something like music its ridiculous.
Kml.... Rogan @ 12:14 I almost spilt out all my food seeing your name changed to (Rogan Sharpe-Barkley) 😂 you have to warn people you goin to do things like that.. lol
It fills me with so much satisfaction to see this kind of content. Growing up and throughout my adulthood, I had this same problem. Any criticism I had of the black community was deflected with "You're taking white people's side," and even when I pointed out that when white people did behave badly I would call them on it--which it doesn't actually happen often because the white people i've been around are fine and the ones who did step out of line they were quickly corrected and took my words with grace because i didn't scream at them--I was still told that I was trying to be white or get white acceptance or that it was my trauma. It really pissed me off and actually alienated me from black people. It literally sent me further into non-black friendship and relationships and pushed me to a point of being traumatically uncomfortable around black people or forcing myself to code switch. I don't do that anymore, but i'm glad there are black people who are finally speaking out who have a platform to be heard.
I don't understand how people's egos got so fragile. It's almost like no one is allowed ro say anything even remotely critical. I would much prefer to avoid people like that. We all learn from criticism. Thanks for sharing your story. I am also happy that more black people are speaking out.
@@ThisBahamianGyal in my own healing journey I found out that it’s much easier to blame others than to actually heal. It took a lot for me to face my pain and take responsibility for the part I played in my own suffering. It take a hell of a lot of resilience and unfortunately most people don’t have it anymore.
@@MarthaPennington88 Well said; it's cultural. I wish I had just one friend here in the mid-atlantic or anywhere that are independent thinkers and free of riding the victim train - not one. It's lonely.
I was raised in Jamaica and the UK, but moved to the US when I was young. I was constantly told I act white; I speak white; I listen to white music: I this; I that. I was not black enough for Black Americans.
My father was a career US Air Force sergeant. I spent a big chunk of my childhood in Germany. When he retired, we moved back to his home town: Baltimore, Maryland. I was in the 3rd grade, and a fluent German speaker right down to the accent. Hilarity ensued virtually on day one and lasted for several years. What’s fascinating is that a lot of those people who called me a “sellout” are either dead or been locked away in prison for a long time….
I hear this sentiment over and over from Caribbean and African people, also from Black Americans who don't act stereotypically. They get trashed and called Oreo. It's a sad state of affairs.
I feel you. When I was Stationed in Germany in the Army, I dated a beautiful young lady of Jamaican ancestry. Her and her father lived in Northern England. He was a great guy. I would have loved having a father in law like him. But she caught more flack from the black community than anyone because she was very traditional and didn't fit the mold I guess. I have the fondest memories of her. If I could have gotten her to come here, she'd be my wife still today. 😂God bless you for bringing up those memories
The problem I see with most of you is that you all are adults with a child mentality. People say ignorant things because they are ignorant. You know you better than anyone, so why react to someone’s words?
I agree with you my sister. Charles Barclay spoke of some things I've had to deal with over the years. I was called white boy and asked why don't you talk like that. I got my accent and vocabulary from my mother, something I'm proud to have and proud of that inheritance . Black girls wanted nothing to do with me so I concentrated on music. In other words I suffered for a full second and didn't curse about it, I just buckled down and did my own thing. No tears, I'm confident and content. I play and listen to many types of music and have experienced things dew to my open mind and challenging myself to do things I otherwise never would've thought of doing in a closed minded attitude. All I can say is open your minds, you'll be glad you did.
Look at the Chad Ocho Cinco talk on Shannon's show arguing with Shannon that black businesses shouldn't be criticized NO MATTER WHAT. Shannon was like "nah bro. If they do wrong, they need to be called out." Chad was angry about Shannon saying that. It's crazy.
As a mixed Hawaiian Army Brat some of my local family would tell me “I’m not Hawaiian” as a kid and that my Dad sold out to join the “white mans Army” some of my cousins only called me by my 1st Christian name and never my Hawaiian name my parents called me. It sucked until my Dad told me “eh stupid you are Hawaiian no matter what others say and success is the best revenge” I was 6 at the time and bingo the light went on. My family/cousins and I are all cool now and if you live in Hawaii respect the history and culture while defending the environment regardless of where you came from YOU ARE HAWAIIAN- Amazing!!!
The average career length for a a pro athlete in the NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB is not that long. Why gear the kids towards a career that on average is going to last 4.85 years? So I get it.
It boggles my mind that so many wring their hands about school sports being cut and bothers me how colleges bend stuff for athletes, when aspects of school that have use for a longer time after graduation, like calculating compound interest, are considered optional to know.
I grew up in the hood had no father with 2 siblings and a single mom. Went through tons of drama. It don't matter where you come from, if you have the motivation and you work hard you can be just as successful as they are. Stop making excuses about you don't have the same opportunities as everyone else.
Wow, this black crab mentality is a serious matter. In this instance, Charles, Tara and Don are spot on. Yes, there are external factors that black people face daily but we also need to address and clean up the internal mess we have going on.
In 2024, it looks like more often than not, the challenges the Black community face are from WITHIN. Do the low-income people take school seriously? Do they TRY to live a "straight" life--or go for the "easy money"/crime? I see so much AGGRESSION in public places--like on public transportation. Increasing rudeness for no reason! Like yelling at a BUS DRIVER just doing their job! Sad thing is we were making real progress on racism--but, "bad actors" in the Black community are CREATING racists by their bad behavior.
Tara and Barkley were spot on. Van was off in left field. EVERY position/argument from Van is victim-minded, and therefore unable to speak directly to the issue at hand.
I agree 100%. There are times when I do agree with him...but he does seem very victim-minded. I was happy when Don Lemon told him to stop with caveats. I was happy that Don admitted that he gets hate, too when he doesn't follow a certain narrative.
I call it Jellyfishing. Takes zero spine to float around with the current. Sure you might be able to sting folks. But introduce some solid ground??? You’re done.
OMG!!! Yes, please! 🙏🏽 Can we get an "AMEN"?!?! I saw a documentary about women in the 60s Civil Rights struggle, specifically those who were members of the Black Panther Party. These women stayed silent about their sexual abuse at the hands of the male members of the Party, so as to not muddy the waters with regards to the Movement. It angered me to no end. The shyte MANY of us stay silent about for the good of the many is immeasurable. Yet, there are BIPOC siblings who talk mad shyte about us... and many of us STILL stay silent. 🥺😔😢
The guy shaking his head looks put together, educated and wealthy. Playing the victim narrative living exactly the opposite lifestyle. He is the greatest example of what is systematically wrong within the black community.
Metro-Detroit here. All of this argument is true, so painfully true. I rarely ever hear proper grammar from anybody in the black community, even the "educated". My work takes me through hospitals, commercial environments, industry, etc, it's all the same. The sheer level of financial, social, and educational ignorance I encounter is sickening...
We already know this, but it hasn't changed. We are so far gone that even exposure to the truth doesn't change us. We are successfully and thoroughly destroyed.
@@ThisBahamianGyal I feel like I can be even MORE precise and say 1992 LOL. And your freestyle would be about happy 90's things like music. boys, friends, and dancing, while promoting recycling and safe sex. Good old days. Sigh.
@@robertdavis8843 womp womp stop the victim bs it's time to stop giving our past a rope to hold us back, you act like our ancestors want to see us complaining and not thriving 🤔
I always say i don't care who you are if you act like a fool im gonna call you a fool got nothing to do with anything else other than how you present yourself to others
I'm no African American so I cannot speak on or about the community. But Charles Barkley is just an amazing roll model to all races. He speaks about and to all races! He's just simply a very intelligent man who is brave with his talks.
U can’t be serious!!U call THAT a role model?!Clearly misinformed…u must have really appreciated when he said he would slap a black Trump supporter for having their OWN opinion…morals🙃
CB a role model thats the funniest thing i have heard this year. Thats a good model for what monster cookies? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Like Hannibal Lector was a good guy😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ThisBahamianGyal too bad he doesn’t look in the mirror and call it and fix it. By the time he and that other jock head looked at themselves and fixed it they would NOT have time to talk about anyone else. My question to you is why are u propping up these two brutish numbskulls. Are you a relative? Everyone knows they each aren’t about sh…..🤷🏾♀️but running their big mouths CB even told folks not to be like him. He told you out his own mouth he ain’t about helping nobody. Why do you folks worship ppl who tell you they aren’t worth your time? Thats why folks stay in abusive relationships. BTW Satan speaks his mind ALL the time AND🤦🏽♀️any fool can run its mouth. Wake up grow up. Use your powers for good OR NOT keep promoting and supporting nonsense
Yep I know about OJ. I remember the Bronco chase and the trial. I believe he killed Nicole and her friend, whose name unfortunately escapes me right now. I remember being maybe 10 or 11 and feeling sad for Nicoles kids.
You can correct people without being hateful…. But truth is hate to some people. It’s like kryptonite some times! I appreciate corrective criticism. And if it IS HATEFUL, I move on. Life’s too short.
I think that as much as we don’t like to be thought of by whites as having monolithic thinking, we engage in thought policing all the time. If you didn’t have the same black experience, didnt grow up eating the same, watching the same shows, etc., you’re not “one of us”. And you can do all that, but if you’re too many shades too light, you’re still “not black enough”, or people treat you as if your life has been a bed of roses.
I had a friend as a kid, her name is Delilah. She always called herself an Oreo when we were kids. Her reasoning? "I'm black on the outside, white on the inside, and a sweet cookie that goes great with milk." We were in Elementary School. Delilah, if you're still out there and you ever see this? I still think about you girl. You were one of my best friends when we were kids and I hope life has been super kind to you.
lol bruh. If we can’t hold each other to be better then wtf are we doing? You don’t get a pass because we share similar ethnic makeup. Do we despise ourselves & each other so much that we can’t be open & honest for the sake of improving? Ugh
You are truly going to be instrumental in turning around the problems in the Black community, I'm so proud of you. I've always had so much respect for Charles Barkley as well. The only thing that made me question that was when he recently said on his show with Gayle King that he would hit black people who wore maga hats. Now the line itself is just Chuck being Chuck. But he was basically telling black people not to think for themselves. He also criticized the Democratic party for not keeping their promises, but again, to basically say "don't vote for Trump" is saying "don't vote Republican". That feeds into Biden saying "if you don't vote for me, you ain't black". So yeah, he disappointed me then.
Hey hun. Thank you soooo much. Your comments really made my day. Yes, I 100% agree with you on Charles' threat to punch people wearing MAGA hats. He was absolutely wrong and totally out of line. He was essentially telling people not to think for themselves. He was out of order for that. I was close to divorcing him. 😂🤣🤣 I support people voting for WHOMEVER They want to vote for. No one should be threatening anyone with violence. And black people are not obligated to voting for the Democrats.
It's interesting how the black people that are so invested into criticizing other black people can never handle any criticism that comes there way. We are supposed to just accept their criticism but any criticism they get is dismissed as "hate".
They hate Charles Barkley because he pulled his ass up out of the muck and mud and rose up to bloom in the sun. I’m sure it was not easy and he must have thought of giving up, but he didn’t. Unfortunately, some people are bitter because they didn’t just give up, they didn’t hardly even try to get out. So here we are 🤷🏻♀️ and I’m white, I’m sure some is different for black folks, but as a southerner having much family in poverty, I can relate. Some of us pulled ourselves out, some remained but are happy for us, but most who stayed are envious and show their jealousy often. Pretty sad but all too true. God bless you and Mr Barkley for telling truths.
You mean in sports 🏀 the same that he is criticizing the young kids who probably saw HIM as a role model. He should take some of the monies HE IS GAMBLING AWAY and invest in 100 children like Oprah did, bc SHE also had THE SAME complaints and sent children to college…
I wont be fawning over this man like yall are doing. He can speak all he wants, make points valid, but I still dont like how he openly and seemingly carelessly he gives no f's about saying if a black person supports Trump with some merch, he would physically touch them if you know what I mean. He is not helping with these remarks, and Im not from the U.S. so I dont really care much about the Trump saga, but he is just one to talk about black people after he openly threatens some of them bc of political differences.
Im Black and i hear none of this Black victimhood from family nor friends but I do hear it in the media equally if not more from whites than black and it's mentioned on platforms like this about accountability. Accountability is an America issue not black look at politics
Shannon Sharpe is evolving and in a season where everything he touches is golden. When this comes, expect the haters to hate. I concur with speaking the truth when it comes to how our community is degrading itself on so many levels.
You mentioned Charles background. That's important, because I grew up 14 miles from where Emmett Till's body was dumped into the river. Saying that, I have done well for myself, nothing like Charles but well enough that I know it's possible to become unawaringly detached from every day issues in the black community. When you've not lived in the area for 40 years, you really base your opinions on second handed knowledge. I'm not saying that I disagree with Charles and I know that he still has friends in the community just as I have. When I go back home I'm actually shocked by things my old friends say. In fact, with the exception of two old friends, I don't feel welcomed in the community that I spent my childhood. So for me to say, I understand the community that I no longer know, not really. I'm sure Charles experience is much different because everyone knows him, but I'm sure he's shocked periodically by things in the black community that he wasn't aware of. Not pushing back, just a thought.
I cant take Van Jones serious after watching him cry on air over the dumbest sh*t. And you know you wrong when even don lemon has to spit truth to you🤦🏿♂️
The black community needs to start calling out the bad actors within the community that drag the rest of us down don't be afraid change comes from the inside
Much respect for you. Was watching another video on TH-cam, just found you and I have to say you are very educated and elegant. I'm of Irish and Welsh decent but love everyone. Hate is a four letter word.
I can tell you right now...that no matter my point..or if i am right. My wife who is blk will flip anytime i bring up blk people.. She says that i always want to show blk people acting up or being Racist she immediately jumps to everything but the "Point I Was Making" 😂😂😂😂😂
I agree to all of this, but lets not discourage black kids from being what they want to be. We are all different, some aspire to be doctors because that is what they want to do, some aspire to be athletes because that is what they love. There also white kids who aspire to athletes and musicians, so lets not just make it seem like black kids only aspire to be entetainers, because there are also black kids who aspire to be doctors and engineer
Hi. I don't want to discourage kids from being athletes or entertainers. But, I have a problem when those are the only careers our kids think they can have. There are so many awesome career choices that they don't consider.
True, but there is a difference between criticism out of love and the intention to be better, and placating to White audiences by CONSTANTLY talking about what's wrong with BP while never discussing the positives
Your Channel is fabulous.. I always walk away with a different perspective ... Your channel always opens my eyes to my blind spots !!! Keep doing what u doing !!!
Misery loves company... We as Black people really need to do better whether you are Black American or Continental Africans, Afro-Caribbeans or a Black European.
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS a very foreign concept all across the board in this country. To another subject: you are such a pretty lady! Love your skin.
Wait so, I just posted something criticizing this man for issuing threats against his own race if they supported Trump, and my comment is now nowhere to be found...hmm...what's going on?
It’s statistically far easier to be a superstar in the NBA than becoming an astronaut. There are only 14 active American astronauts but almost 500 NBA players.
False equivalence is stupid. Also, idk where you got your numbers, but there’s 48 active astronauts. Either way, being a doctor is about 2,000 times easier than being in the NBA. To put it in perspective, if you look at a crowd of 1 million completely random people, about 300,000 would be doctors, about 150 would be NBA players, about 14 would be astronauts (by my count), about 4 would be astronauts (by your count), and you’d have a 1 in 333 chance to possibly see the president.
We can’t always blame the system and white supremacy. At some point, some Black Americans need to understand that taking accountability for actions is what will get them out of this place
Hey girl as a fellow Bahamian I am so proud of you I love how you elevate your platform just please don't forget to continue highlighting a little of our culture on your Channel. But baabbbby me and you can have to fight call Shannon cuz one of us sweethearting him LOL. But I totally agree with this even though I don't always agree with Charles he has said some off the wall stuff as well and was not called out on it. I am subscribed to so many TH-cam channels and I love the black channels that corrects our people not because I am black means I'm going to agree with nonsense let's call a spade a spade. But girl keep doing what you doing I see you well on your way to 100 K congratulations from Freeport Bahamas 🇧🇸. Side note: Have you ever tried reacting to some of the paranormal youtube channels? I would love to see your Bahamian reaction to them cuz you know we funny Af 😂. Or you too scary? 😏
Hey babes! What you saying?? It makes me smile so hard to see my people in the comments section. Thank you so much. I'm just like you...there are many things that Charles says that I disagree with (you know he is run out sometimes), but I appreciate his candor and fearlessness. I love my people, but I am not gonna remain silent when I see us doing foolishness. Thank you for subscribing. And we can share Shannon. He outside right now changing my car brakes, but I ga slip ya number. LOLOL. Paranormal TH-cam channels? I have to check them out...but no, gyal...Ine scared. I love horrors and things like that. But, for me to react to them they would have to be a good fit with what I'm doing on my channel...if not, people would be like, what this gyal talking about? Thanks, Meeks!!
@@ThisBahamianGyal Thanks for replying. Na you know we en sharing cuz someone head en good in the equation lol. But yeah I found you either late last year or early this year can't remember. But yeah the paranormal reactions are big on TH-cam, there's always an audience for it, the algorithm love it too.I think you can squeeze it in because you cover alot of topics. Alot reactions are from tictok, then there are some other TH-cam channels, like Slapped Ham, Nukes top 5, King frostmare I think it's called to name a few. You can check them out on your free time to see if it's something you'd like to try. I'm scary but like scary tings...chile I gat a problem lol. Nevertheless I will always support your Channel.
Of course some black people can be doctors and lawyers. Realistically though a lot of black kids need to understand the pay difference between skilled trades and unskilled labor.
What's differentiates ourselves from the rest of society is we understand competing and we want people to do Well because that in turn brings the rest of us up. Black culture is taught to demean andBe little people that are doing better than you areChange comes from within we have to start calling out our own that's how it changes
You cannot live your life bubelieving what social media says about you and Shannon has grasped that concept Social media is manipulative at best But it is a needed medium and the world we live in now
I think Vance is wrong to try and diminish what that Lady's said she experienced. Also, Charles Barkley was not overstating his opinion on this issue about the community. Anytime some of us address a negative truth about our community, there is a lot of dissension and condemnation against that person who is making an observation, or trying to educate, or simply share an experience. I think the greater thinking minds of our community are just going to have to rise above the name calling (from some in our community), and try to keep moving forward. By the way, I love your channel. Keep posting these types of videos for everyone's awareness!
Opinions from external influences will not cure!!! ( considering a history of condemnations) IT is more effective if coming from inside the community!!!🤔🤔🤔
The black community would support Meghan Markle who just started claiming her black side. But will hate on Barkley, Shannon, and other successful black people. Make it make sense.
I don't particularly like Van, however, he can be correct and so can the woman. Here's the thing, I was born in the 1950's and based on my own experience, Mr. Barkley would be absolutely 100% correct as the woman on the panel. She knows it, Van knows it, you and I know it, every single black person knows it. White people know it and I'm about sick of caveats!
You should look up Dr. Jawanza Kunjufu’s work. He talks about the way Black boys are targeted (by other boys and grown men) by the 4th grade to choose between “smart” and “cool”.
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Accountability is a foreign concept to many
*Cough cough* especially BP 🙄
AGREE 💯. Everyone cheers for accountability of others... until they themselves must be held accountable!!!😉
Black People do this all the time to one another! I don't know why this is debatable.
Kryptonite...
Disproportionately high black crime rates, single mom households, poor parenting and low grades must be a talking point.
I am a teacher but to military kids overseas. Their attitude is very different in terms of kids in the US versus the kids I teach. The kids I teach - black or white have high expectations. I have not had a "I wanna be a rapper or sports person" in years. Aspirations black and white: Biochemist, lawyers, doctors, business owners. It's nurture and environment that makes a difference.
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@@mysweetlife388 So true. You can’t raise kids in a dangerous environment and an unstable home.
Apparently we’re hating when we give critiques, but when they make an ass of themselves, then what?
Thank you!!!!!!! 🔊
You get called names!
@@ThisBahamianGyal I really love your program. Your honesty and intentions are insightful and valuable. Your light shines brightly. And your courage will take it where it is needed. God Bless us all. Peace.
Why is it that if a group perpetuates a stereotype, they get mad about it. When they do and show other actions away from the stereotype, they are called out, saying you are not one of us. Which do they want, expanding your horizons or being the typical stereotype and getting mad at other people for pointing out the problems🤔😮
@@williamthornton7376 when do your point out your own peoples problems, of which there are many?
Everything about who we are as black people, as a black culture is learned behavior. Meaning that we teach this sort of negativity amongst ourselves. It’s passed on from generation to generation, from grandma and grandpa to child to grandchild and so on. We learn to express this negativity and black hate amongst ourselves.
I think some black people are just envious of other black people. I think that's what this is. They're very embarrassed because nothing's going on for them. So that's criticized other people instead don't look at me wrong. Good questions is good, but not through jealousy. Oh bad mindness
Honestly, there are several elephants in the room that the black community won't address. A lot of dark and disturbing things thats very troubling..
I agree. I’m not black but have really only been friends with more black people then any other race so I’ve spent a lot of time sharing feelings with black friends, mostly girls, and some of the things they’ve told me they were taught by their own moms was heartbreaking. I know it’s not every black household mostly in the south where we’re from but some “lessons” were plan sad and some were so ridiculously laughable.
This is so true. It is much more convenient to blame "racism" and huwhyte supremacy than take responsibility and make positive changes.
Are you a black American?
You are not wrong!
We try to but then Lizzo gets mad when she’s address and stampedes
The root causes of jealousy and envy are connected to a person's inability
to see what God has provided in their life and a lack of thankfulness.
Amen!!!! You nailed it! 👏
Love the way you said that so perfectly. It made so much sense. It was simple words with a huge impact.
1000%
I was a Peace Corps Volunteer in Guyana and there was a Volunteer from Nigeria (naturalized US citizen) whose father was a physician who got his MD from the University of Vienna and she wanted to get her MD from the same university. She came to me complaining because the female African American Volunteers were always ragging her because she wasn't "Black enough". Why? Because she spoke British English, didn't want to get "ghetto", and was planning to be a physician.
Im curious, what does the peace corps do in Guyana?
This hurts my heart.
"I want you to win but I don't want you to win more than me.".... There is an African (Yoruba) equivalent of that saying and it goes like "I want you to eat but I don't want you to be belly full."...
As a black man born to Jamaican parents, I've become sick of this crab mentality that has permeated the black community for years now. We've been taught (either by clueless celebrities and exploitive politicians) that black people aren't meant to succeed without aid, and the ones that do are vilified. We've become too used to thinking that we can't get ahead without help from the government or some whack ass movement, so when we actually see a black person have any kind of success, we have to pull them back down to our level. "If I'm not succeeding, then they can't either." It's disgusting.
I hate that shit. We talk all the time how we need to become autonomous and depend on ourselves and rise up for the sake of our community, only to be brought down by those same people. If it wasn't for the system telling them they can never make it, then we wouldn't think this way. It makes it that much harder for me to call my self a part of the black community; I'm even almost embarrassed by it.
Well stated
I hate your type of blanket judge Black people. You support seeing Blacks in chains struggling against all odds to survive but for God's sake don't raise their voice. But of course, you will accuse them as victims.
Sickening
There are many black conservatives that do not play into that mentality at all. I’ve started watching several of them this past year and it’s been truly eye opening and refreshing to hear about success being made and a POSITIVE message being said for others to hear.
There is no almost for me. I am downright embarrassed by it and disgusted. Even though I know it has nothing to do with me personally i know I’m still shoved into that box and it makes livid sometimes.
Yes 💯 many blk ppl are still and have made progress and success. Their just not the focus or care to be a topic in the media instead taking care and raise their families. Studies have shown by large the most successful black ppl in America have come from the West Indies. And has continued for generations. Go figure. Lol😂🎉
I’ve been told the exact same words before “not black enough”. Its crazy to me because I’m African, as black as night 😅
Wow,that's insane.
What does that even mean?
I feel you fam ..I am a Dominican /Haitian . In the island i was not dark enough or to dark depending on who i was surrounded by .
It’s like the “no true Scotsman” claim.
@@jashary15- Uhhhhh. What do you think it means?
As a young 16-year-old homeschooled black boy from Louisiana, I love your content, you are so beautiful and God bless you! I would love it if you would talk about the incident were two black boys from Las Vegas joyrided, stole a car and ran over a white sheriff that was on a bike because baby, that was so ghetto! Criticism about the black community should be completely valid! At the end of the day, if black people can criticize people of other races each and every single second, why shouldn't people of other races be allowed or have the right to hold us accountable for ghetto behaviors and terrible actions?! It's ridiculous, especially as a young person, who is a beliver in God and is more conservative or center-right. I don't wanna be around people who look like me, I want to be around people who THINK like me.
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Smart man,u are going places!
@@sweetla4750 Tysm!
Amen to that!! Well said. Keep thinking, it’s kryptonite to politicians!!
I'm to the point now where I don't care what I'm called anymore. We have to keep speaking.
Thank you!!!!! That is exactly the point where I am right now!!!!
This is me!
I'm a white 37 yr old guy from rural NC so I'm probably visually someone who your audience wouldn't care to hear speak on this. But I also attended 2 HBCU's for an undergraduate degree, lived in a predominately black Caribbean country for nearly a decade and both my ex and current wife are black. I've seen many of these things you're addressing from a spectator seat of sorts. I recall getting in an arguement in college because I hated the automatic "You're acting/speaking white" label thrown on black friends of mine who were more eloquent in speaking or not interested in stereotypical activites. Then when I stated that was hypocritical of them they spun it and said that I was being racist. I told them "I criticize PEOPLE....and it's always on their actions as an individual. The same way I choose my friends based on their character. Is that not the point?" They could NOT prove me wrong.
Your opinion is more than welcomed and appreciated. I'm actually sick and tired of ppl saying another group of ppl can't speak on a topic all because they aren't black, tr@n$, (insert supposedly oppressed identify) etc. You and anyone else can add value to the subject.
@@HappyTobeHere89 I wish more people would stop and realize that our external appearance doesn’t automatically reflect our experiences.
Dont be afraid to speak the truth when you see it. I lived this sh*t too and we need more calling it out when they see/experience it.
Nah, I think you should stay out of black conversations. The victim mentality was derived from people who were actually victimized by people who look like you. You have colonized not only lands but minds and now people who look like you hypocritically do most of the criticizing.
Diplomacy, respectful, goes a long way. Blessings to all. "Isa"
My grandmother always said, “black people are like crabs in a barrow!”Every time a crab try’s to get out of the barrow another crab is pulling the crab back down. She told me that at 9 years old…
And my grandmother said maybe they're not pulling each other down, maybe the one at the top is trying to pull them up. You have to be careful of other's perspectives.
@@ConsciousFBA that makes no sense, good try though.
@@amapnamedpam No surprise there.
Barrel* but yes, your grandma was spot on. When will some of us learn? Smh
The question that is never asked is , is the barrel the natural habitat of crabs? If not, then how did the crabs end up in the barrel? And the crabs couldn't have gotten in the barrel by themselves, so who put them in there?
Accountability is like kryptonite to some black folks
It sure is. Too many of us expect to be coddled.
I grew up raised by a redneck backwoods white family and many of that demographic can’t take accountability for their bad actions too. It’s always someone else’s fault or cause they were abused as kids or cause they’re poor but they never made a positive change to uplift themselves. I grew up learning what NOT to do in order not to turn out like them cause I wanted better for myself. I’m not better than anyone and I’m not perfect but I do wish more young people in the backwoods or ghettos would feel that way too. You are not your environment and you don’t have to stay down. You have beautiful potential and could do great things.
You could do a four volume series on the skin bleaching epidemic, paternity fraud, scamming, colonial mentality, anti Blackness, colorism, parasitic behavior, etc, of the Caribbean community, but you want to present as the “ civilized Blacks” vid a via Black Americans, which you all have done for generations. Lol even while having travel advisories and degeneracy galore. Why are you not wagging your finger at the high crime, criminality, and other ills in the Caribbean, UK, Canada and U. S.?l of your OWN people? The lectures are only for Black Americans, correct? Again, you have no content unless you act as if you are sitting high and narrating and assessing everything that Black Americans do. It is also strange since more than ever , Black Americans are refusing to be force teamed with others.
You are not giving Black Americans the rules of engagement about anything. Check your own and leave us alone. We don’t go to other peoples counties doing this. It is beyond disrespectful.
Even if that's true because the new agenda is to make black people look like they do everything wrong sooner or later it will switch to either black people were lying about slavery we caused all the racism on the planet it could even get as ridiculous as we owe white people money for slavery!
And what I mean by my sarcastic comment is this trend to say black people are so bad for saying something racist while implying but not saying white people have never been racist!
Soooo if a person(Regardless of Race) speaks well, is Educated, is not a Thug, treats women as women. Why are they NOT a real member of their community?? Help me make sense of this
I was born in the 1960s, the last of 7 siblings and I was the lightest skinned of them all. I loved r&b music, soul and funk, but I also liked pop music, jazz, blues, rock and classical. I read a lot and I wanted to be an architect. At the the age of 10, 11 my own family used to tell me that: "you think you're white". And it's shameful the crabs in a barrel attitude that prevades us because we're afraid of someone who has hopes and aspirations--how dare you have dreams, those are things for white people. I've never adopted that mentality because it's victim claiming. Believe it or not, our family doctor, who used to make housecalls in the community when needed, was a black woman from the Caribbean, Dr McCaskey. Did not love the woman because when it came time to get a needle in butt she would take out a strap to get my compliance. Lol. Such a role model for black people in Harlem. Imagine her struggles as she went through medical school in probably the 1940s.
Keep up your great work, Rogan.
Ohhh goodness! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I could not stop laughing to the last section of this post. Back in the day.. those types of ol' school, well mannered nurses and grandmas don't take nonsense when it comes to getting the needle. Very direct, very professional types of women. They could fire a needle in two butts even if they flew past.
People: "We need more representation of black in all sectors of life, but the white man is gatekeeping."
*Black Kid/s wanna doctors, authors, architects etc, etc.
Same people (to those kids): "Why you wanna be white for?!"
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@@ancientfuture9690 white man is not gatekeeping anything. There are a multitude of black people in the history of technology, medicine and engineering. The problem is that black people crush their dreams or don't foster it. If my family doctor, who is not alone, can achieve her dreams in circa 1940s, there is no excuse for black people now. In fact, more Caribbean blacks, while having suffered the same slavery history, have excelled in professions far greater than American blacks. Reason why, they are not discouraged. Heck, even Africans come here and do well.
Thank you so much for sharing that story!!! You are such a good storyteller. I hate when our people tell our kids, "you think you're white." We should be encouraging one another and shoukd be happy our kids have big aspirations. It really is a 🦀 in the barrel attitude.
@@frankiecrocker I'm in agreement with you btw. I was describing people of the same group that shoot the others down for aspiring for the things that is complained about them not having.
This is one of massive criticisms I have towards our community, we take no accountability and we'll do anything to move the goal post just to shut doen the conversation. We're so quick to tell others what they should or shouldn't do but we never practice what we preach. It gives me a migraine beyond belief
TRUTH!
My mother has a saying: It's easier to point at the dirt on other people's door step, than to clean up your own porch.
@@chastitymarks2185 a very wise woman indeed
@chastitymarks2185 That's a very wise sentiment, I'm going to remember it ❤️
I'm a white girl who grew up in a diverse neighborhood. My best friend was black and she always got called an oreo because she spoke "more white than I did." Some of the black kids at my school would actually make fun of us and call her an oreo and me an inside out oreo. She always said she didn't care and then about ten years after highschool she told me it hurt her so much but she didn't want to tell me because from her perspective I was technically being complimented while she was being bullied
I felt this. It’s so sad
That's messed up. I hope you both are doing okay despite the name calling.
Are you still good friends?
@@wakawaka1976 No but not because of anything to do with arbitrary things like race. She had a family and I had a lot of health issues so we got busy and grew apart.
@@penguinabroad that’s just how life is… but man I wish you could have stayed close. We as people just keep moving on though. New cities new jobs etc. I don’t hang with any of my old friends but I’m more of a home body anyhow. Just cool when people are lucky enough to keep it going
This hate has been instilled in Black People, just like comformity, I am from Chicago lived there 37yrs. and re-located 20yrs ago to Middle GA. When I return to visit my family and friends, It is frightening and I grew up right off of Chicago ave and St. Louis when gangs were prevalent but now its like a war zone.....
I have always opined that racism is an imperfect human construct. And if we were to suddenly become the "same" in every way (color, language, physicality)
We would find something to single ourselves out and distinguish/group one another. We need to stop with the kicking down the ladder and crab barrel nonsense
And the gatekeeping. Soon as someone not black uses hip hop influence in their music, black ppl (regular black ppl who has nothing to do with its contribution) wants special treatment.
@@mato_fato_ma-ah-fala-falafel i have never seen another group of people be so overprotective their culture and with something like music its ridiculous.
Kml.... Rogan @ 12:14 I almost spilt out all my food seeing your name changed to (Rogan Sharpe-Barkley) 😂 you have to warn people you goin to do things like that.. lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hey Cannon!!! Vey you been? You know I love me some Shannon.
@@ThisBahamianGyal kml, well Now we kno.... And this name is gospel to me now..
It fills me with so much satisfaction to see this kind of content. Growing up and throughout my adulthood, I had this same problem. Any criticism I had of the black community was deflected with "You're taking white people's side," and even when I pointed out that when white people did behave badly I would call them on it--which it doesn't actually happen often because the white people i've been around are fine and the ones who did step out of line they were quickly corrected and took my words with grace because i didn't scream at them--I was still told that I was trying to be white or get white acceptance or that it was my trauma. It really pissed me off and actually alienated me from black people.
It literally sent me further into non-black friendship and relationships and pushed me to a point of being traumatically uncomfortable around black people or forcing myself to code switch. I don't do that anymore, but i'm glad there are black people who are finally speaking out who have a platform to be heard.
Real talk
I don't understand how people's egos got so fragile. It's almost like no one is allowed ro say anything even remotely critical. I would much prefer to avoid people like that. We all learn from criticism. Thanks for sharing your story. I am also happy that more black people are speaking out.
@@ThisBahamianGyal in my own healing journey I found out that it’s much easier to blame others than to actually heal. It took a lot for me to face my pain and take responsibility for the part I played in my own suffering. It take a hell of a lot of resilience and unfortunately most people don’t have it anymore.
@@MarthaPennington88 Well said; it's cultural. I wish I had just one friend here in the mid-atlantic or anywhere that are independent thinkers and free of riding the victim train - not one. It's lonely.
@@valencia4215 it really is lonely. I hope you find a good friend nearby. I’m hoping I do too.
From a Larry Elder video. He asked a jurer from the OJ case, and she said they made a not guilty verdict because he was black.
I was raised in Jamaica and the UK, but moved to the US when I was young. I was constantly told I act white; I speak white; I listen to white music: I this; I that. I was not black enough for Black Americans.
My father was a career US Air Force sergeant. I spent a big chunk of my childhood in Germany. When he retired, we moved back to his home town: Baltimore, Maryland. I was in the 3rd grade, and a fluent German speaker right down to the accent. Hilarity ensued virtually on day one and lasted for several years. What’s fascinating is that a lot of those people who called me a “sellout” are either dead or been locked away in prison for a long time….
I hear this sentiment over and over from Caribbean and African people, also from Black Americans who don't act stereotypically. They get trashed and called Oreo. It's a sad state of affairs.
I feel you. When I was Stationed in Germany in the Army, I dated a beautiful young lady of Jamaican ancestry. Her and her father lived in Northern England. He was a great guy. I would have loved having a father in law like him. But she caught more flack from the black community than anyone because she was very traditional and didn't fit the mold I guess. I have the fondest memories of her. If I could have gotten her to come here, she'd be my wife still today. 😂God bless you for bringing up those memories
The problem I see with most of you is that you all are adults with a child mentality. People say ignorant things because they are ignorant. You know you better than anyone, so why react to someone’s words?
I agree with you my sister. Charles Barclay spoke of some things I've had to deal with over the years. I was called white boy and asked why don't you talk like that. I got my accent and vocabulary from my mother, something I'm proud to have and proud of that inheritance . Black girls wanted nothing to do with me so I concentrated on music. In other words I suffered for a full second and didn't curse about it, I just buckled down and did my own thing. No tears, I'm confident and content. I play and listen to many types of music and have experienced things dew to my open mind and challenging myself to do things I otherwise never would've thought of doing in a closed minded attitude. All I can say is open your minds, you'll be glad you did.
Look at the Chad Ocho Cinco talk on Shannon's show arguing with Shannon that black businesses shouldn't be criticized NO MATTER WHAT. Shannon was like "nah bro. If they do wrong, they need to be called out." Chad was angry about Shannon saying that. It's crazy.
As a mixed Hawaiian Army Brat some of my local family would tell me “I’m not Hawaiian” as a kid and that my Dad sold out to join the “white mans Army” some of my cousins only called me by my 1st Christian name and never my Hawaiian name my parents called me. It sucked until my Dad told me “eh stupid you are Hawaiian no matter what others say and success is the best revenge” I was 6 at the time and bingo the light went on. My family/cousins and I are all cool now and if you live in Hawaii respect the history and culture while defending the environment regardless of where you came from YOU ARE HAWAIIAN- Amazing!!!
We are not a homogeneous community. It’s foolish of anyone (including other Black people) to think so.
The average career length for a a pro athlete in the NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB is not that long. Why gear the kids towards a career that on average is going to last 4.85 years? So I get it.
It boggles my mind that so many wring their hands about school sports being cut and bothers me how colleges bend stuff for athletes, when aspects of school that have use for a longer time after graduation, like calculating compound interest, are considered optional to know.
I grew up in the hood had no father with 2 siblings and a single mom. Went through tons of drama. It don't matter where you come from, if you have the motivation and you work hard you can be just as successful as they are. Stop making excuses about you don't have the same opportunities as everyone else.
Wow, this black crab mentality is a serious matter. In this instance, Charles, Tara and Don are spot on. Yes, there are external factors that black people face daily but we also need to address and clean up the internal mess we have going on.
In 2024, it looks like more often than not, the challenges the Black community face are from WITHIN. Do the low-income people take school seriously? Do they TRY to live a "straight" life--or go for the "easy money"/crime? I see so much AGGRESSION in public places--like on public transportation. Increasing rudeness for no reason! Like yelling at a BUS DRIVER just doing their job! Sad thing is we were making real progress on racism--but, "bad actors" in the Black community are CREATING racists by their bad behavior.
Tara and Barkley were spot on. Van was off in left field. EVERY position/argument from Van is victim-minded, and therefore unable to speak directly to the issue at hand.
I agree 100%. There are times when I do agree with him...but he does seem very victim-minded. I was happy when Don Lemon told him to stop with caveats. I was happy that Don admitted that he gets hate, too when he doesn't follow a certain narrative.
Van Jones has to adhere to the agenda or he’s yesterday’s news and he knows it.
Van Jones does whatever white liberals tell him to do.
I call it Jellyfishing. Takes zero spine to float around with the current. Sure you might be able to sting folks. But introduce some solid ground??? You’re done.
It's the same thing with the food critic that reviews restaurants and they attacked him and didn't say we must do better in our communities.
When A Black person gets rich or successful,"They sold their soul"What?!?Why is that always their go to line?
OMG!!! Yes, please! 🙏🏽 Can we get an "AMEN"?!?!
I saw a documentary about women in the 60s Civil Rights struggle, specifically those who were members of the Black Panther Party. These women stayed silent about their sexual abuse at the hands of the male members of the Party, so as to not muddy the waters with regards to the Movement. It angered me to no end. The shyte MANY of us stay silent about for the good of the many is immeasurable. Yet, there are BIPOC siblings who talk mad shyte about us... and many of us STILL stay silent. 🥺😔😢
The guy shaking his head looks put together, educated and wealthy.
Playing the victim narrative living exactly the opposite lifestyle.
He is the greatest example of what is systematically wrong within the black community.
I love this channel! Great video
Metro-Detroit here. All of this argument is true, so painfully true. I rarely ever hear proper grammar from anybody in the black community, even the "educated". My work takes me through hospitals, commercial environments, industry, etc, it's all the same. The sheer level of financial, social, and educational ignorance I encounter is sickening...
We've always been against each other. I am happy so much is coming to light.
Continue finding and reporting on the things that matter.
We already know this, but it hasn't changed. We are so far gone that even exposure to the truth doesn't change us. We are successfully and thoroughly destroyed.
I LOVE your 90's look today! Giving me flashbacks! :)
Yes, it really was a 90s look, wasn't it? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I looked like I was about to drop a freestyle and do a record scratch. 1-2-1-2
@@ThisBahamianGyal I feel like I can be even MORE precise and say 1992 LOL.
And your freestyle would be about happy 90's things like music. boys, friends, and dancing, while promoting recycling and safe sex.
Good old days. Sigh.
We hate criticism and are overly sensitive!!
Considering a History Continual Criticisms/Condemnations !!! Can you not understand the Brokenness our community had to endure!!!😮😮😮😮
@@robertdavis8843 womp womp stop the victim bs it's time to stop giving our past a rope to hold us back, you act like our ancestors want to see us complaining and not thriving 🤔
I always say i don't care who you are if you act like a fool im gonna call you a fool got nothing to do with anything else other than how you present yourself to others
I'm no African American so I cannot speak on or about the community. But Charles Barkley is just an amazing roll model to all races. He speaks about and to all races! He's just simply a very intelligent man who is brave with his talks.
U can’t be serious!!U call THAT a role model?!Clearly misinformed…u must have really appreciated when he said he would slap a black Trump supporter for having their OWN opinion…morals🙃
CB a role model thats the funniest thing i have heard this year. Thats a good model for what monster cookies?
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Like Hannibal Lector was a good guy😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love Charles. He just calls it as he sees it regardless of who it is.
@@ThisBahamianGyal too bad he doesn’t look in the mirror and call it and fix it. By the time he and that other jock head looked at themselves and fixed it they would NOT have time to talk about anyone else. My question to you is why are u propping up these two brutish numbskulls. Are you a relative? Everyone knows they each aren’t about sh…..🤷🏾♀️but running their big mouths CB even told folks not to be like him. He told you out his own mouth he ain’t about helping nobody. Why do you folks worship ppl who tell you they aren’t worth your time? Thats why folks stay in abusive relationships.
BTW Satan speaks his mind ALL the time AND🤦🏽♀️any fool can run its mouth. Wake up grow up. Use your powers for good OR NOT keep promoting and supporting nonsense
Yep I know about OJ. I remember the Bronco chase and the trial. I believe he killed Nicole and her friend, whose name unfortunately escapes me right now. I remember being maybe 10 or 11 and feeling sad for Nicoles kids.
Ron Goldman.
@@ThisBahamianGyal thank you. I felt so disrespectful not giving his make too. He was also a victim.
You can correct people without being hateful…. But truth is hate to some people. It’s like kryptonite some times! I appreciate corrective criticism. And if it IS HATEFUL, I move on. Life’s too short.
Hey baby girl!!! How are ya?? And, you are so correct! ♥️
@@ThisBahamianGyal 💞
This is all just so incredible to me. Thank God black people are finally starting to speak up.
I think that as much as we don’t like to be thought of by whites as having monolithic thinking, we engage in thought policing all the time. If you didn’t have the same black experience, didnt grow up eating the same, watching the same shows, etc., you’re not “one of us”. And you can do all that, but if you’re too many shades too light, you’re still “not black enough”, or people treat you as if your life has been a bed of roses.
I had a friend as a kid, her name is Delilah. She always called herself an Oreo when we were kids. Her reasoning?
"I'm black on the outside, white on the inside, and a sweet cookie that goes great with milk."
We were in Elementary School. Delilah, if you're still out there and you ever see this? I still think about you girl. You were one of my best friends when we were kids and I hope life has been super kind to you.
If the goal post keeps moving, then nothing will have to change, and that's what makes some people happy. There's comfort in consistency
lol bruh. If we can’t hold each other to be better then wtf are we doing? You don’t get a pass because we share similar ethnic makeup. Do we despise ourselves & each other so much that we can’t be open & honest for the sake of improving? Ugh
Someone had to say it and it's about time!
You are truly going to be instrumental in turning around the problems in the Black community, I'm so proud of you. I've always had so much respect for Charles Barkley as well. The only thing that made me question that was when he recently said on his show with Gayle King that he would hit black people who wore maga hats. Now the line itself is just Chuck being Chuck. But he was basically telling black people not to think for themselves. He also criticized the Democratic party for not keeping their promises, but again, to basically say "don't vote for Trump" is saying "don't vote Republican". That feeds into Biden saying "if you don't vote for me, you ain't black". So yeah, he disappointed me then.
Don’t leave out my girl@ PinkBookLessons❤
Hey hun. Thank you soooo much. Your comments really made my day. Yes, I 100% agree with you on Charles' threat to punch people wearing MAGA hats. He was absolutely wrong and totally out of line. He was essentially telling people not to think for themselves. He was out of order for that. I was close to divorcing him. 😂🤣🤣
I support people voting for WHOMEVER They want to vote for. No one should be threatening anyone with violence. And black people are not obligated to voting for the Democrats.
You have an intelligent podcast.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks for listening!!!
It's interesting how the black people that are so invested into criticizing other black people can never handle any criticism that comes there way. We are supposed to just accept their criticism but any criticism they get is dismissed as "hate".
Like her.
@@kaizatengoku3893like you
Not all blacks have it rough.
Anyone who thinks otherwise should consider getting off the Psychological Plantation.
They hate Charles Barkley because he pulled his ass up out of the muck and mud and rose up to bloom in the sun. I’m sure it was not easy and he must have thought of giving up, but he didn’t. Unfortunately, some people are bitter because they didn’t just give up, they didn’t hardly even try to get out. So here we are 🤷🏻♀️ and I’m white, I’m sure some is different for black folks, but as a southerner having much family in poverty, I can relate. Some of us pulled ourselves out, some remained but are happy for us, but most who stayed are envious and show their jealousy often. Pretty sad but all too true. God bless you and Mr Barkley for telling truths.
You mean in sports 🏀 the same that he is criticizing the young kids who probably saw HIM as a role model. He should take some of the monies HE IS GAMBLING AWAY and invest in 100 children like Oprah did, bc SHE also had THE SAME complaints and sent children to college…
I wont be fawning over this man like yall are doing. He can speak all he wants, make points valid, but I still dont like how he openly and seemingly carelessly he gives no f's about saying if a black person supports Trump with some merch, he would physically touch them if you know what I mean. He is not helping with these remarks, and Im not from the U.S. so I dont really care much about the Trump saga, but he is just one to talk about black people after he openly threatens some of them bc of political differences.
Im Black and i hear none of this Black victimhood from family nor friends but I do hear it in the media equally if not more from whites than black and it's mentioned on platforms like this about accountability. Accountability is an America issue not black look at politics
Shannon Sharpe is evolving and in a season where everything he touches is golden. When this comes, expect the haters to hate. I concur with speaking the truth when it comes to how our community is degrading itself on so many levels.
Charles Barkley got where he is today by working his butt off.
You mentioned Charles background. That's important, because I grew up 14 miles from where Emmett Till's body was dumped into the river. Saying that, I have done well for myself, nothing like Charles but well enough that I know it's possible to become unawaringly detached from every day issues in the black community. When you've not lived in the area for 40 years, you really base your opinions on second handed knowledge. I'm not saying that I disagree with Charles and I know that he still has friends in the community just as I have. When I go back home I'm actually shocked by things my old friends say. In fact, with the exception of two old friends, I don't feel welcomed in the community that I spent my childhood. So for me to say, I understand the community that I no longer know, not really. I'm sure Charles experience is much different because everyone knows him, but I'm sure he's shocked periodically by things in the black community that he wasn't aware of. Not pushing back, just a thought.
I cant take Van Jones serious after watching him cry on air over the dumbest sh*t. And you know you wrong when even don lemon has to spit truth to you🤦🏿♂️
Good point...I don't always agree with Don, but his take was spot on.
It sounds like "crabs in a bucket".
The black community needs to start calling out the bad actors within the community that drag the rest of us down don't be afraid change comes from the inside
Much respect for you. Was watching another video on TH-cam, just found you and I have to say you are very educated and elegant. I'm of Irish and Welsh decent but love everyone. Hate is a four letter word.
I can tell you right now...that no matter my point..or if i am right.
My wife who is blk will flip anytime i bring up blk people..
She says that i always want to show blk people acting up or being Racist she immediately jumps to everything but the "Point I Was Making" 😂😂😂😂😂
I agree to all of this, but lets not discourage black kids from being what they want to be. We are all different, some aspire to be doctors because that is what they want to do, some aspire to be athletes because that is what they love. There also white kids who aspire to athletes and musicians, so lets not just make it seem like black kids only aspire to be entetainers, because there are also black kids who aspire to be doctors and engineer
Hi. I don't want to discourage kids from being athletes or entertainers. But, I have a problem when those are the only careers our kids think they can have. There are so many awesome career choices that they don't consider.
True, but there is a difference between criticism out of love and the intention to be better, and placating to White audiences by CONSTANTLY talking about what's wrong with BP while never discussing the positives
Your Channel is fabulous.. I always walk away with a different perspective ... Your channel always opens my eyes to my blind spots !!! Keep doing what u doing !!!
Wow, thank you! I truly appreciate you saying that! 🫡🖤🖤🖤
Misery loves company... We as Black people really need to do better whether you are Black American or Continental Africans, Afro-Caribbeans or a Black European.
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS a very foreign concept all across the board in this country.
To another subject: you are such a pretty lady! Love your skin.
Awww.....thank you so much. And you are right. Many people seem to have serious problems with personal responsibility.
NO IT is just not being prepared!!!🤔🤔🤔
It's a shame. Can't have it so they got to hate on it. When they left behind its everyone fault. I love Shay Shay. Such a handsome good looking man.
Wait so, I just posted something criticizing this man for issuing threats against his own race if they supported Trump, and my comment is now nowhere to be found...hmm...what's going on?
Some black people don't like the truth.
How can you protect a wife better and murderer no matter what your colour 😳🏴
It’s statistically far easier to be a superstar in the NBA than becoming an astronaut. There are only 14 active American astronauts but almost 500 NBA players.
False equivalence is stupid. Also, idk where you got your numbers, but there’s 48 active astronauts. Either way, being a doctor is about 2,000 times easier than being in the NBA. To put it in perspective, if you look at a crowd of 1 million completely random people, about 300,000 would be doctors, about 150 would be NBA players, about 14 would be astronauts (by my count), about 4 would be astronauts (by your count), and you’d have a 1 in 333 chance to possibly see the president.
I respect Charles for talking against hitting women. It is very degrading.
You gotta admit Charles does speak his mind. Good for him!
He is the definition of, I ain't never scared. 🤣🤣
We can’t always blame the system and white supremacy. At some point, some Black Americans need to understand that taking accountability for actions is what will get them out of this place
Hey girl as a fellow Bahamian I am so proud of you I love how you elevate your platform just please don't forget to continue highlighting a little of our culture on your Channel. But baabbbby me and you can have to fight call Shannon cuz one of us sweethearting him LOL. But I totally agree with this even though I don't always agree with Charles he has said some off the wall stuff as well and was not called out on it. I am subscribed to so many TH-cam channels and I love the black channels that corrects our people not because I am black means I'm going to agree with nonsense let's call a spade a spade. But girl keep doing what you doing I see you well on your way to 100 K congratulations from Freeport Bahamas 🇧🇸.
Side note: Have you ever tried reacting to some of the paranormal youtube channels? I would love to see your Bahamian reaction to them cuz you know we funny Af 😂. Or you too scary? 😏
Hey babes! What you saying?? It makes me smile so hard to see my people in the comments section. Thank you so much. I'm just like you...there are many things that Charles says that I disagree with (you know he is run out sometimes), but I appreciate his candor and fearlessness. I love my people, but I am not gonna remain silent when I see us doing foolishness. Thank you for subscribing. And we can share Shannon. He outside right now changing my car brakes, but I ga slip ya number. LOLOL.
Paranormal TH-cam channels? I have to check them out...but no, gyal...Ine scared. I love horrors and things like that. But, for me to react to them they would have to be a good fit with what I'm doing on my channel...if not, people would be like, what this gyal talking about? Thanks, Meeks!!
@@ThisBahamianGyal Thanks for replying. Na you know we en sharing cuz someone head en good in the equation lol. But yeah I found you either late last year or early this year can't remember. But yeah the paranormal reactions are big on TH-cam, there's always an audience for it, the algorithm love it too.I think you can squeeze it in because you cover alot of topics. Alot reactions are from tictok, then there are some other TH-cam channels, like Slapped Ham, Nukes top 5, King frostmare I think it's called to name a few. You can check them out on your free time to see if it's something you'd like to try. I'm scary but like scary tings...chile I gat a problem lol. Nevertheless I will always support your Channel.
Of course some black people can be doctors and lawyers. Realistically though a lot of black kids need to understand the pay difference between skilled trades and unskilled labor.
I enjoy the concept of the video....this need to be discuss publicly.
The same in Mexican culture. When you work hard and work your way up, the whole familly with hands out while they trash you.
I wish that Shannon Sharpe and Charles Barkley would call Umar Johnson out already.
What's differentiates ourselves from the rest of society is we understand competing and we want people to do Well because that in turn brings the rest of us up. Black culture is taught to demean andBe little people that are doing better than you areChange comes from within we have to start calling out our own that's how it changes
Everything said is 100. This why the community is where it is and I can't see it changing any time soon
If one doesn’t agree with blacks behaviors you get all kinds of clapback
May God richly bless you and yours, Rogan.
You cannot live your life bubelieving what social media says about you and Shannon has grasped that concept Social media is manipulative at best But it is a needed medium and the world we live in now
I think Vance is wrong to try and diminish what that Lady's said she experienced. Also, Charles Barkley was not overstating his opinion on this issue about the community. Anytime some of us address a negative truth about our community, there is a lot of dissension and condemnation against that person who is making an observation, or trying to educate, or simply share an experience. I think the greater thinking minds of our community are just going to have to rise above the name calling (from some in our community), and try to keep moving forward. By the way, I love your channel. Keep posting these types of videos for everyone's awareness!
Opinions from external influences will not cure!!! ( considering a history of condemnations) IT is more effective if coming from inside the community!!!🤔🤔🤔
Whyyyyyy is he talking about the damn prison system in this conversation?! Why it always gotta go back to white people or a system?
I appreciate your video. It doesn’t bother me that neither of those males are currently dating or married to a black woman.
Me either! I agree. I don't have a fragile ego. I want them to be happy no matter who they choose to marry/date.
The black community would support Meghan Markle who just started claiming her black side. But will hate on Barkley, Shannon, and other successful black people. Make it make sense.
We love you and we love Chuck.
He's been hated by his community for 4 decades now. He's a Real One.
He really is a real one. Thank you so much!!!
I don't particularly like Van, however, he can be correct and so can the woman. Here's the thing, I was born in the 1950's and based on my own experience, Mr. Barkley would be absolutely 100% correct as the woman on the panel. She knows it, Van knows it, you and I know it, every single black person knows it. White people know it and I'm about sick of caveats!
This actually makes me genuinely curious how much more successful black women might be targeted than successful black men.
You should look up Dr. Jawanza Kunjufu’s work. He talks about the way Black boys are targeted (by other boys and grown men) by the 4th grade to choose between “smart” and “cool”.
BECAUSE THE PLIGHT OF THE BLACKMEN TEND TO BE INTERNALIZED OR THE SAKE OF BEING NOT CONSIDERED WEAK!!!
Much more, from what I can see.