Alfa. The Tesla appears to drive & perform well but it's hideously ugly. The Alfa ticks far more boxes for me and is an attractive car which is a rare thing in this price range
Just test drive the Tesla, I drove a Model S P100 DL, that acceleration is out of this world and completely silent which in my opinion makes the experience even better.
Wondering about reliability and cost of maintenance. Alpha Romeo was chased out of the US long ago because they were POSs. This car is a thousand times more complex and Italian cars don't have a good reputation for reliability. I would wait for a year and read the long term reviews.
@@dzerres The Giulia is already near the end of its third model year in the US came (2017 was first model year and the 2019s are on sale currently). I would expect a mid-cycle refresh soon for the 2020 MY. The long term reviews have not been kind, in terms of reliabilty, even if they gush about the performance. Car and Driver just published their final 40,000 mile test update on a 2018 Quadrifoglio and said it was one of the most amazing cars they have ever had in their long term fleet, but it broke their heart because it spent a ridiculous amount of time in the shop being fixed.
I love the Tesla and I’ve pretty much written off internal combustion cars for myself but the Alfa is pretty gorgeous and one of the nicest of the old school cars you can buy.
I've never known anybody enjoy going sideways more than Tiff and have also been watching him for more years than I care to admit. Tiff, you never fail to put a smile on my face. Paul, you have the envious position to drive alongside one of the best.
While drooling over a red G-Quad at the local dealer, a customer came in to buy one. He had a Tesla and said that while its fast as hell, it has absolutely no soul! And i get that. A silent car with no feedback from engine or exhaust would indeed be "boreing".
Trevor Nemeth that are not for everyone that’s for sure. Personally I could easily live with an EV but Paul and Tiff would struggle (charging infrastructure mostly)
I just live to enjoy cars like tiff needell does , just tell him that I've been watching him on tele for more than a decade now and just inspires me more than anything
Everything you want in live is excitement. Look at that smile on his face when he hits the pedal on the Alfa. The sound, the noise, the engine roar, the dails that all move about, the excitement. It's all that matters!
I was on JAGUAR XE with ZF gearbox during 4 years (very nice car indeed) and I just go on TESLA M3 Dual Motor Long Range right now ..... God, what a marvelous car .... Really ? I don’t miss all gas engine cars & I think I will never go back. But it’s my opinion and not everyone has to have the same .....
A zero motorcycle has a much lower top speed but could well be even more fun than these cars (if you know what you are doing with it, on a twisty road).
Great video paul, really enjoyed it. So pleased the qf is 3.1 seconds slower as thats 3.1 seconds longer to enjoy that amazing sounding engine and sideways action. I want one! Zero desire for the faster tesla though. Cheers.
Was undecided between the Model 3 Performance and a Model S 100d... Ended up taking the Model S two months ago. Now it's already on sale and I want the Model 3 Performance!! :-)
A true car is like a symphony, it's a love child n driving is like addiction over above everything. The sound the vibration the force on hand the G's u hit, all this make u fall in love with it. And that's what Italians are good at. A washing machine can't understand even it rotates faster than a petrol heart. Sad to see the slow death of this beauties in the future. Alfa,Fiat Love
I understand what you're saying. But after driving a TM3 I don't miss the BMWM3 at all. Same for everyone I know who have had high end cars. Tesla really is the future.
Joseph C. It is a converter lock up clutch.The Converter Lock-up clutch eliminates the converter slippage, thereby reducing fuel consumption. Thanks to the considerable torque that the converter can transmit, it is possible to make use of the lock-up clutch in place of a gear shift, giving greater comfort with respect to shifting between two gears. Depending on the load, in some of the engine’s operating points, the lock-up clutch is opened instead of shifting down, increasing the engine speed as happens during a down shift. The difference in rotational speed between the pump and the turbine increases the converter torque, which corresponds to a gear shift. Moreover, the increase in engine speed means that the engine is made to operate in a higher power range.
will park It performs like a dual clutch, performs better than a single clutch that is found in the F430 and other Ferrari’s.. but it’s an automatic. Based on the same technology you would find in many other basic automatics. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission
mesa's artworks The giulia has a ZF 8-speed automatic with a torque converter, not a single or dual clutch. It’s the same transmission you find in every RWD-based BMW, Land Rover, Audi A8, S4/5/6/7/8, Porsche Cayenne and Panamera, etc.
@@CFG39 Agree the one they were driving in the video has the ZF unit. The other commenter might have been referring to the continental European market where there's a manual transmission available with the ZF as the option. UK only gets the auto as will all RHD markets I assume.
@@becauseiwasinverted7971 Why would he refer to a manual transmission like that though? He was obviously referring to the Auto, which he was driving. It isn't dual clutch, it's single, so whatshisface was right.
@@samsondelighted the ZF auto has no clutch. It uses a torque converter. By other commenter I was referring to the guy who highlighted that there is a manual transmission option which will obviously have a clutch rather than the review
Alfa for the looks and sound, Tesla for speed, elegance and technology. Another amazing video once again!! You need to upload more videos, I can't get enough of it! ;)
There are ways to get rid of pollution, one plant more trees, 2nd we can recycle carbon dioxide. which is in this documentary. th-cam.com/video/XHX9pmQ6m_s/w-d-xo.html
i would always choose the alfa over any tesla, no matter which model... (for so many reasons!) :-) Giulia = simply one of the most beautiful car in the world, from a brand, which has a big history... and somewhat affordable...
Truely epic car test and also a bit of a difficult choice. I love fun to drive cars and that Alfa looks like a fun car from my point of view. But sometimes you also want a car that can comfortably drive and that glues to the road just like the model 3 and the fact that it has responsive steering it can also be fun. Interior wise i'm with Tiff on this the Tesla doesn't have much to do and i would prefer the speedometer to be infront of the driver. Its a bit too simple. You know what i think if i could afford it. I would buy both of them. Drive them depending on my mood.
yah, future thinking folks with no regard for aesthetics. the tesla is about as interesting as a wet cardboard box. Tesla might make good electric engines but they have a long way to go in making cars.
gtx332 that’s fair enough but if I owned a Tesla I wouldn’t be owning it for looks . It would be used from getting from A to B , quietly, cheaply and with instant torque 💪
@@gtx332 Sure thing...also folks holding on to the past will love ICE cars, rotary phones, black & white TVs, and prune juice. Future thinking folks will love EVs, smartphones, 4k TVs, and Kombucha. Future thinking FTW!
I see hundreds of Teslas each day. With the low hood and high roof on the Model 3 it looks a little bit silly. In my country they cost the same as a Golf GTI so they are beating every sales record. But three guys in my neighbourhood has the Alfa Q. It’s cool, unorthodox, noisy, and exotic. I love their petrolhead desicion of getting these beasts compared to the tame sowing machines.
In Track Mode, the Model 3 can go sideways around those corners, too. You have to really push it to break the back loose. Since it's faster to not go sideways, the computer will try to keep you from doing that if you're just close to the limit, but it will do it if you tell it you really want to-you just need to put your right foot down more than with the Alfa, because the Tesla has so much more grip. Who says an AWD car can't drift-or do donuts? 😈
I was about to say the same thing and in fact there is a video on DAErik youtube page where he lets Motor Trend test driver Randy P. good full out with it.
Exactly. It is very very poor journalism. I would resign from the profession after such a statement.. «you cant drift the Tesla» lol they know nothing about the car
@m scott True. I imagine there is a new learning curve needed for folks to drive in track mode with a Tesla, it may end up doing the "fun stuff" but you need to drive it differently to get it to do it. On top of that, with the full software control, I imagine track mode will evolve over time and have additional options, I can see modes such as "ludicrous drift", "over-steer" and "best lap" appearing. Do the BMW and AMG have OTA updates available? Additionally, do they have (semi)autonomous driving which would be even nice to have when driving them in slow traffic which, let's face it, is a lot of the time if the car is your daily driver/commuter and not just a weekend/track thing. I think this is another area where the Tesla wins by a large margin, it's a very practical family car as well as being quick/fun.
@@stefangrubesic2708 Less than ICE emissions. Over 8 years the EV will be less polluting (and e.g. a Tesla should easily last for 20 years or more under normal use) and produces no pollution where people are breathing it in. Do some more/better research. The EVs will also get better battery tech as time goes by and the batteries can be reused for e.g. home batteries/power grid where even 20% of the original capacity would be fine while the EV can get a new battery pack popped in with the best tech of the time. In 8 to 10 years batteries will be even cleaner and more efficient.
Tesla or Alfa? It’s sort of like asking, “would you like a robot as a wife?” Sure, it would be nice - until you realize one day your spouse is missing a soul and you come to remember the feeling and beauty of being with a human being. I would take the Alfa Romeo any day
To all the people that say Tesla is faster than Giulia- no, it is not. This is a very short track and wet road. On track like Nurburgring Alfa Giulia's is more than a minute faster than any Tesla. Max speed of 191 miles per hour vs 162 mile per hour. Enough said.
I’ve owned the M3P and currently the Alfa, biggest factor here is the Pirelli Corsa tyres the Alfa comes on. They are a 60 treadwear Summer tyre that’s unusable in the cold or wet. The Tesla is on arguably the best road tyres available, Michelin PS4S. Put the PS4S tyres on the Alfa, it’s a revelation. Either way the Alfa gets such admiring interest, it feels so exotic and special to drive whilst also being so entertaining. To put it blunt, I don’t want my Tesla back
It's fairly well documented that the standard P Zero Corsas on the Quadrifolio aren't particularly great in damp or cool conditions... It would've been interesting to see the track comparison in conditions which suited the Alfa better.
@@lovecarsTV Well, you already have a winning formula that your viewers enjoy and find engaging. When I receive a notification that you have uploaded a new video I'm always excited to watch it asap
Alfa might be fun for a quick whirl, but I'd rather own the Tesla for long term. Not sure if anybody saw the latest Car & Driver, but the Alfa broke down so often in the 40K mile test it spent 80 days out of 14 months in the shop.
You guys had a lot of fun! As a Tesla driver, I just wouldn't go back. Instant torque, always stable and fastened to the road, smooth, quiet. I don't want to wait for a transmission to shift down, I want to go NOW. THAT'S what Tesla gives effortlessly.
My only reason for buying the tesla is that I hate having to buy expensive fule. However, I feel that the interior of the tesla model 3 is boring. the model x and model s interior is good.
@@jdmfan2170 It's really a matter of personal taste. All my life I have aspired to fancy cars with more and more buttons and features. Now Tesla comes along and gives us hyper-minimalism. It's a shock.
GR8TDUCK yeah, I have been inside the Tesla model 3 when I went to Sweden, it’s nice. But the reason why I prefer buttons is that, most car companies are getting rid of buttons for minimalism, while the luxury cars are keeping it, or implanting both. because it’s saves car companies money if they get rid of buttons and details.
Learn how to drive a manual well then. Much more fun than a slush box or a soulless EV with no gears. Driving should be about skill not how easy the car makes it for you.
Good to see you having a great time on our local roads. The noises in Tiffs car were very funny 😁 but I’m not sure they were all electronic 😂. The Alfa’s always seemed great on looks but there used to be those nagging doubts about its construction. I’m sure they are turning that corner now. Thanks again. Regards, Bob M.
In Australia the on road price for Quadrifoglio seems to be about $50K more than the Model 3 P. I have ordered the latter. Much as I love Alfas (I have owned one and a Nissan R35 GTR) I believe we are at the beginning of a real transition. I already have a Hyundai Ioniq EV and charge it off our rooftop solar array. In nearly 10,000 km over 3 months I have put air in the tyres, water in the windscreen washers and that's it. I hardly use the brakes because of regen. Other than a slight reduction in my positive credit with my electricity company the direct running cost has been $0.00. With this experience I am confident about how well the Model 3P will work with its extra range. With so many interesting EVs (cars and SUVs and vans) coming onto the market and with lithium battery prices falling it will be game over for the combusion engine in the next decade except for some specialised applications. Yes I miss the sound. But I'll get over it.
Do not try to double clutch the Model 3 Tiff!!! hahaha! I feel bad for car reviewers trying to review the 3 "In every day driving to commute or run errands or drag race, it's so fast and easy to drive..." would be so boring! I can't wait until the Italians make EV daily drivers with that passion!!!
when Tiff is behind the wheel of the Model 3, look at the door rubber seal on a B pillar, and now think about the price for this car... yeah, those kind of questions :)
@@lovecarsTV The fuel prices in Norway, where I live, favors EV's over ICE cars these days. Gasoline is about 1.50 € per liter, while electricity is about 0.1 € per kWh. It's about ten times more expensive to drive the Alfa than the 3 per kilometer. Then add to the picture that EV's are currently free of any taxes, event VAT, while ICE cars are heavily taxed. You can have two TM3 Performance cars here for the price of one Quadrifoglio.
@@eubikedude I know. I'm on my fourth year now driving an EV. No issues after some 50000 km in e-Golf and another 10k in 3LR AWD. Both are good cars, but different.
The Tesla is nice but the Interieur-Design is... fail. 🤣it looks like IKEA with a steering wheel. Beside that: The Gulia QV is mutch more amazing to drive.
That’s a major thing that bothers me about the model 3. Its weight. 1800kg?! Holy crap! We know petro heads will pick the Alfa, but you gotta admit, they haven’t been the most reliable vehicle. One of the poorest right by Jaguar and Land Rover. So yes, we would all pick the Alfa, but if we had more choices, I’m sure we would pick something else. 😉 Great vid guys! Keep them coming! 👍🏻
I've owned about half a dozen Alfa's in my life. But I can afford to run the Tesla as a daily. Tesla Model S in the garage, racking up miles. Alfa Guilietta QV next to it, doesn't get out a lot.
Does he not have track mode on with heavy regen or at least normal regen? He keeps left foot braking on fairly low speed sweeping corners at 2:40. You definitely don't need to left foot brake with the Model 3 Performance regen on all but the most hard corning.
I think what separates these 2 cars is you need to be a professional driver to handle the Alfa. I have a hunch most experienced divers could handle the Tesla.
Amazing video! i drove both cars. and for fun: Personally, think i prefer the Giulia QV because of its handling, i really couldn't stop smiling after driving it.
@@craigyirush3492 I agree with you, in a long race. Then, and only then, is what I said wrong. But according to this test, which is what we are talking about, and in every drag race, my statement is correct. If they continue the race, then there will be a point in which the gas powered vehicle will eventually overtake the electric, but in every driving situation that someone could experience while driving in the city, I am dead on accurate.
@@rmv4646 No, you are not. This is a short track and if it was dry Alfa would still beat Tesla. On longer track like Nurburgring Alfa anihilates Tesla with more than a minute.
Lovecars - I love cool features but to me, that is completely unnecessary and childish, but say an air vent that can disappear into the dashboard completely like how it did in one of the Jaguars, is complicated but still useful because it is the air conditioning.
Interesting bit of news about the Model 3 you can now order a base Model 3 performance for under 50 grand how much is that Alfa Romeo going to run you I imagine a bit more then that number.
These are my local roads.. when you posted a photo on Instagram I rushed to the spot... all that remained were rubber “stains” left by tiff undoubtedly 🥰
And of course Paul is in the best vehicle!....even if Tiff signed then kissed the dashboard of the Tesla in hopes that I'd buy it I would still choose the Alfa Romeo.
Alfa or Tesla?
Alfa!
Lovecars Tesla all the way!
Alfa.
The Tesla appears to drive & perform well but it's hideously ugly. The Alfa ticks far more boxes for me and is an attractive car which is a rare thing in this price range
You can’t be serious!! A dishwasher, or a 500 bhp piece of art?
Aleksandar Atanasov so far lots of love for the Alfa!
Henry Ford once said."When I see an Alfa Romeo go by, I tip my hat.
Miha Avšič good old Mr Ford
When i hear an alfa i tip my hat.
@@Tuck_Frump Yes he did th-cam.com/video/Vs1P9sW3lAo/w-d-xo.html
Miha Avšič the AA man also gave the Alfa Driver the thumbs up, just after he got him going again.
Stan Kinaz you’re right, it was an AA man👍
Brain says Tesla
Heart says Alfa
Just get both
wallet (over the long run) says "Tesla" as well. Can you imagine the repair and service bills for an Alpha?
@@dzerres Just ask Scotty Kilmer: "Money Pits".
Just test drive the Tesla, I drove a Model S P100 DL, that acceleration is out of this world and completely silent which in my opinion makes the experience even better.
@@dzerres 5 years free service on the alfa.... must be sooooo expensive to service then
Can't explain why but Alfa's just so special to me❤
No 5hit you are not on your own 💪
159 and Giulia the two most attractive sedans. Ever,
Because you don't have one.
Wondering about reliability and cost of maintenance. Alpha Romeo was chased out of the US long ago because they were POSs. This car is a thousand times more complex and Italian cars don't have a good reputation for reliability. I would wait for a year and read the long term reviews.
@@dzerres The Giulia is already near the end of its third model year in the US came (2017 was first model year and the 2019s are on sale currently). I would expect a mid-cycle refresh soon for the 2020 MY. The long term reviews have not been kind, in terms of reliabilty, even if they gush about the performance. Car and Driver just published their final 40,000 mile test update on a 2018 Quadrifoglio and said it was one of the most amazing cars they have ever had in their long term fleet, but it broke their heart because it spent a ridiculous amount of time in the shop being fixed.
I love the Tesla and I’ve pretty much written off internal combustion cars for myself but the Alfa is pretty gorgeous and one of the nicest of the old school cars you can buy.
Eric Wadge would you go back ?
@@lovecarsTV Not if it was 400 miles back.LOL
I've never known anybody enjoy going sideways more than Tiff and have also been watching him for more years than I care to admit. Tiff, you never fail to put a smile on my face. Paul, you have the envious position to drive alongside one of the best.
ufx808 I think both Paul and Tiff enjoy their jobs 😂
Here to support Tiff's new endeavor!
DiscoveryTV you should've never let the man go. Fifth Gear's nothing without Mr Needell.
Didn't the last series have him?
Alfa all day, it appeals to my heart in a way a Tesla doesn't.
Thomas Harrison-Lord fair enough 👍
@@lovecarsTV when it works
TH-cam hasn’t told me about you guys in a while! Nice too see you’re stilling uploading 🤘🏻❤️🥴😎🇬🇧
Emilio Fernandez We are still at it Emilio 👍
Enjoying Tiff last 20 years
And his fun never gets old
TheFunkyair timeless
While drooling over a red G-Quad at the local dealer, a customer came in to buy one. He had a Tesla and said that while its fast as hell, it has absolutely no soul! And i get that. A silent car with no feedback from engine or exhaust would indeed be "boreing".
Trevor Nemeth that are not for everyone that’s for sure. Personally I could easily live with an EV but Paul and Tiff would struggle (charging infrastructure mostly)
Agreed keep an ICE vehicle for the track? The ev acceleration is never boring.
I just live to enjoy cars like tiff needell does , just tell him that I've been watching him on tele for more than a decade now and just inspires me more than anything
He’s pretty inspirational 👍
@@lovecarsTV a person I'd yearn to meet all my life,just that I'm in India and he's far in the uk
Rohan George one day we hope to come to India 🇮🇳
@@lovecarsTV can't wait for that day
Will love to go on a track with Tiff. He makes car testing interesting.
Everything you want in live is excitement. Look at that smile on his face when he hits the pedal on the Alfa. The sound, the noise, the engine roar, the dails that all move about, the excitement. It's all that matters!
You could well be right but not sure everyone will agree 🤷♂️
I was on JAGUAR XE with ZF gearbox during 4 years (very nice car indeed) and I just go on TESLA M3 Dual Motor Long Range right now ..... God, what a marvelous car .... Really ? I don’t miss all gas engine cars & I think I will never go back. But it’s my opinion and not everyone has to have the same .....
The Alfa ...... That's it
You’re both picking the Alfa. A aeroplane goes 500mph but still isn’t fun!
DanieI Joseph that’s a lovely analogy 👌
DanieI Joseph depends on what kind of airplane and what a persons definition of fun is.
Summer Tyme they are fun the first couple of times you‘re driving them then it gets boring and annoying.
A zero motorcycle has a much lower top speed but could well be even more fun than these cars (if you know what you are doing with it, on a twisty road).
@Fenetix A jet - if it has VTOL. But a VTOL electric plane would be even better; quieter and cheaper/cleaner to run.
Great video paul, really enjoyed it. So pleased the qf is 3.1 seconds slower as thats 3.1 seconds longer to enjoy that amazing sounding engine and sideways action. I want one! Zero desire for the faster tesla though. Cheers.
BISPAL thank you 🙏
Get it you won’t regret it!
Hilarious. Who has ever said, "I WANT THE SLOWER CAR!".
d dzerres buy an air plane that is faster and on a dry track or the german autobahn it‘s another game.
Was undecided between the Model 3 Performance and a Model S 100d... Ended up taking the Model S two months ago. Now it's already on sale and I want the Model 3 Performance!! :-)
WiZe1972 both are pretty special
I went for the S 100D for the extra space. The extra range is great as well. But the Model 3 is a steal compared to the S.
On a dry track it would be much closer, of course. But yeah, that Alfa looks like poetry in motion.
Ovidiu Diumea difficult to argue with that 👍
I think the Alfa would win on a dry track with no sideways action.
One of the best road tests ive seen in a long time guys!
TheNinjaRider thankyou very much, the boys will be happy with that.
Alfa is just pure beauty, so much love for the company, I love all their cars
A true car is like a symphony, it's a love child n driving is like addiction over above everything. The sound the vibration the force on hand the G's u hit, all this make u fall in love with it. And that's what Italians are good at. A washing machine can't understand even it rotates faster than a petrol heart. Sad to see the slow death of this beauties in the future. Alfa,Fiat Love
I love both 👍
I understand what you're saying. But after driving a TM3 I don't miss the BMWM3 at all. Same for everyone I know who have had high end cars. Tesla really is the future.
SINGLE CLUTCH?! TIFF HELP HIM OUT!!
Standard 8 speed ZF in the Alfa.
Joseph C. It is a converter lock up clutch.The Converter Lock-up clutch eliminates the converter slippage, thereby reducing fuel consumption.
Thanks to the considerable torque that the converter can transmit, it is possible to make use of the lock-up clutch in place of a gear shift, giving greater comfort with respect to shifting between two gears.
Depending on the load, in some of the engine’s operating points, the lock-up clutch is opened instead of shifting down, increasing the engine speed as happens during a down shift. The difference in rotational speed between the pump and the turbine increases the converter torque, which corresponds to a gear shift. Moreover, the increase in engine speed means that the engine is made to operate in a higher power range.
Joseph C. it is single clutch.
will park no it’s not will. It’s a straight up zf 8 speed, the one found in hundreds of cars.
Joseph C. i am awear my dad has a giulia veloce so iam rather familiar with it. i was saying it is a single clutch as a zf8 is a single clutch !
will park
It performs like a dual clutch, performs better than a single clutch that is found in the F430 and other Ferrari’s.. but it’s an automatic. Based on the same technology you would find in many other basic automatics.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission
Both fantastic machines. The best sports sedans against each other
Anthony yep pretty much 👍
The Tesla isn't a sport sedan
The alfa is 30s faster on a Nurb lap
Tesla, Tesla, Tesla. I'm ordering my after the vacation. The best stereo system. White outside, black interior. Why do anyone want a white interior?
Good choice
The white is beautiful. Get compliments all the time on ours.
oystla, man that pearlescent white is da bomb, and no extra charge!
My X loved white on white all her cars where equipped that way.
Strangely, talking to the Tesla employees they seem to think the white interior is the EASIEST to keep clean.
The Alfa does not have A SINGLE clutch. It's a ZF torque converter automatic.
ZF is not dual clutch automatic and Giulia has got a single clutch
with manuall shifter
mesa's artworks The giulia has a ZF 8-speed automatic with a torque converter, not a single or dual clutch. It’s the same transmission you find in every RWD-based BMW, Land Rover, Audi A8, S4/5/6/7/8, Porsche Cayenne and Panamera, etc.
@@CFG39 Agree the one they were driving in the video has the ZF unit. The other commenter might have been referring to the continental European market where there's a manual transmission available with the ZF as the option. UK only gets the auto as will all RHD markets I assume.
@@becauseiwasinverted7971 Why would he refer to a manual transmission like that though? He was obviously referring to the Auto, which he was driving. It isn't dual clutch, it's single, so whatshisface was right.
@@samsondelighted the ZF auto has no clutch. It uses a torque converter. By other commenter I was referring to the guy who highlighted that there is a manual transmission option which will obviously have a clutch rather than the review
The Alfa. Any bloody day!
Tim Bienda and every day ?
Lovecars yes every bloody day!
Alfa for the looks and sound, Tesla for speed, elegance and technology. Another amazing video once again!! You need to upload more videos, I can't get enough of it! ;)
Devan Patel thank you Devan but these videos take a long time to make 💪
I think the Alfa looks far more elegant than the Tesla.
@@lovecarsTV Ok, I understand. The quality is great though, it must take a long time.
'tesla for elegance', pffft, about as elegant as a white porcelain toilet. telsa make electric engines, but need to learn how to design cars.
@@gtx332 In my opinion, Tesla make beautiful, futuristic designs.
I see a black Model 3 on my way to work everyday and it’s looks stunning. I’d buy one if I had the cash.
Jake Matheson personally I think it’s styling is its least likeable attribute but hopefully you’ll get the cash soon 💪
Alfa does ancient technology better than anyone but I prefer faster, non polluting, fossil free motoring so Model 3 has to win.
Mister Darwin if those are the criteria then impossible to argue with that
Thordur Hogna Not at all! You have to experience instant torque. There’s like no delay! You press you’re gone
@Thordur Hogna Not even. I never have had a car that throws you back in the seat like a Tesla.
@Thordur Hogna but more fun. I'm off a red light before the Porsche even knows I'm gone. Plus the police don't notice you as much.
There are ways to get rid of pollution, one plant more trees, 2nd we can recycle carbon dioxide. which is in this documentary.
th-cam.com/video/XHX9pmQ6m_s/w-d-xo.html
i would always choose the alfa over any tesla, no matter which model... (for so many reasons!) :-) Giulia = simply one of the most beautiful car in the world, from a brand, which has a big history... and somewhat affordable...
I take that very fast and futuristic Tesla. Looks great as well.
Greg fair enough
except for the white trim. the white trim is Justin Credibly absurd
Justin Crediblename I like it, it’s like the 80s has gone into the future
Truely epic car test and also a bit of a difficult choice. I love fun to drive cars and that Alfa looks like a fun car from my point of view. But sometimes you also want a car that can comfortably drive and that glues to the road just like the model 3 and the fact that it has responsive steering it can also be fun. Interior wise i'm with Tiff on this the Tesla doesn't have much to do and i would prefer the speedometer to be infront of the driver. Its a bit too simple. You know what i think if i could afford it. I would buy both of them. Drive them depending on my mood.
gpierre90 sounds like a good plan
Folks holding on to the past will love the Alfa. Future thinking folks will go for the Tesla. Tesla FTW!
Kenneth Jamora fair enough 💪
yah, future thinking folks with no regard for aesthetics. the tesla is about as interesting as a wet cardboard box. Tesla might make good electric engines but they have a long way to go in making cars.
gtx332 that’s fair enough but if I owned a Tesla I wouldn’t be owning it for looks . It would be used from getting from A to B , quietly, cheaply and with instant torque 💪
@M A *facepalm*
@@gtx332 Sure thing...also folks holding on to the past will love ICE cars, rotary phones, black & white TVs, and prune juice. Future thinking folks will love EVs, smartphones, 4k TVs, and Kombucha. Future thinking FTW!
Alfa 🍀 for Life👍👍!!
I see hundreds of Teslas each day. With the low hood and high roof on the Model 3 it looks a little bit silly. In my country they cost the same as a Golf GTI so they are beating every sales record. But three guys in my neighbourhood has the Alfa Q. It’s cool, unorthodox, noisy, and exotic. I love their petrolhead desicion of getting these beasts compared to the tame sowing machines.
Each to there own I say 👍
I'd have to drive them both. But I love my M3P.
Tesla is for the techfreaks....boooorrriiiinnngggg...... Alfa, for those how livw and wanna be excited!
In Track Mode, the Model 3 can go sideways around those corners, too. You have to really push it to break the back loose. Since it's faster to not go sideways, the computer will try to keep you from doing that if you're just close to the limit, but it will do it if you tell it you really want to-you just need to put your right foot down more than with the Alfa, because the Tesla has so much more grip.
Who says an AWD car can't drift-or do donuts? 😈
I was about to say the same thing and in fact there is a video on DAErik youtube page where he lets Motor Trend test driver Randy P. good full out with it.
Exactly. It is very very poor journalism. I would resign from the profession after such a statement.. «you cant drift the Tesla» lol they know nothing about the car
@m scott True. I imagine there is a new learning curve needed for folks to drive in track mode with a Tesla, it may end up doing the "fun stuff" but you need to drive it differently to get it to do it.
On top of that, with the full software control, I imagine track mode will evolve over time and have additional options, I can see modes such as "ludicrous drift", "over-steer" and "best lap" appearing.
Do the BMW and AMG have OTA updates available? Additionally, do they have (semi)autonomous driving which would be even nice to have when driving them in slow traffic which, let's face it, is a lot of the time if the car is your daily driver/commuter and not just a weekend/track thing.
I think this is another area where the Tesla wins by a large margin, it's a very practical family car as well as being quick/fun.
With the Alfa it takes skill and a lot of it. With the Tesla the computer is doing most of the work fighting the laws of physics.
@@fatboy19831 Without a doubt!
Alfa with both my heart and brain, sadly my wallet says neither 🙄😅 just love watching Tiff
Stefan Grubesic thank you Stephan, good choice and wishing you good fortunes come your way 🙏
your Heart and Brain will love the polluting Alfa particles from the tail pipe, please delicious enjoy!!! while you can ICE is HISTORY!!!TESLA RULES
@@mannyllanos3655 Tesla fanboy spotted.
@@mannyllanos3655 Have you any idea how much production of batteries pollutes? Thought so
@@stefangrubesic2708 Less than ICE emissions. Over 8 years the EV will be less polluting (and e.g. a Tesla should easily last for 20 years or more under normal use) and produces no pollution where people are breathing it in. Do some more/better research.
The EVs will also get better battery tech as time goes by and the batteries can be reused for e.g. home batteries/power grid where even 20% of the original capacity would be fine while the EV can get a new battery pack popped in with the best tech of the time.
In 8 to 10 years batteries will be even cleaner and more efficient.
Alfa for me, Tesla for my wife.
Nice garage
Tesla or Alfa? It’s sort of like asking, “would you like a robot as a wife?” Sure, it would be nice - until you realize one day your spouse is missing a soul and you come to remember the feeling and beauty of being with a human being. I would take the Alfa Romeo any day
Tesla Model 3 for me.
Aeron Gerich Co good choice
To all the people that say Tesla is faster than Giulia- no, it is not. This is a very short track and wet road. On track like Nurburgring Alfa Giulia's is more than a minute faster than any Tesla. Max speed of 191 miles per hour vs 162 mile per hour. Enough said.
LandEscapeArt it would be interesting to see the outcome if it were dry, but in the wet the Model 3 certainly had the edge!
Alfa everyday !
Nice choice, but the AMG is special too 😉
Bella Macchina ❤️
I’ve owned the M3P and currently the Alfa, biggest factor here is the Pirelli Corsa tyres the Alfa comes on. They are a 60 treadwear Summer tyre that’s unusable in the cold or wet. The Tesla is on arguably the best road tyres available, Michelin PS4S.
Put the PS4S tyres on the Alfa, it’s a revelation.
Either way the Alfa gets such admiring interest, it feels so exotic and special to drive whilst also being so entertaining.
To put it blunt, I don’t want my Tesla back
All the best car shows are where the weather is the shittest for driving lol
Jai van der Straaten welcome to our world 😂💪
What we need is Alfa design with Tesla technology
Only a matter of time
Shame Fiat Chrysler seems one of the most resistant to EVs.
Always the Alfa
It's fairly well documented that the standard P Zero Corsas on the Quadrifolio aren't particularly great in damp or cool conditions... It would've been interesting to see the track comparison in conditions which suited the Alfa better.
Sean Lawrence Yes agreed. Not sure how close it would have got as the model 3 is rapid but it would have been a lot closer 👍
Great chemistry between you two, always good content with a great laugh along the way and of course a little friendly rivalry.
secretive Scorpio appreciate your kind words and really glad you liked it
@@lovecarsTV Just my honest opinion. If Lovecars was broadcast on tv you would clean up.
secretive Scorpio let’s hope so 🙏
@@lovecarsTV Well, you already have a winning formula that your viewers enjoy and find engaging. When I receive a notification that you have uploaded a new video I'm always excited to watch it asap
QV : Looks gorgeous, feels special, very rare, sounds glorious, soulful, it's an Alfa Romeo.
Tesla : Fast soulless appliance.
KatyCat Each to their own, personally I think the Tesla is pretty special
whitegoods on wheels.
Giulia any day
How can you not giggle and smile at 6:25 lol
Nizar D. 😂
Alfa might be fun for a quick whirl, but I'd rather own the Tesla for long term. Not sure if anybody saw the latest Car & Driver, but the Alfa broke down so often in the 40K mile test it spent 80 days out of 14 months in the shop.
I have not seen it so impossible to comment but for all our loans we have never had a problem
A friend of mine got a Mercedes E... That spent 6 months in 12 @ garage.
Amazing Vid as always! Tiff is a national treasure! Meep up having fun!!!!
Adam Richards Thanks Adam. We are very glad you liked the video 👍
Alfa is sooo goood!!!
Good banter as always guys. Love the content.
Thanks Dane, I think they enjoyed this one
You guys had a lot of fun! As a Tesla driver, I just wouldn't go back. Instant torque, always stable and fastened to the road, smooth, quiet. I don't want to wait for a transmission to shift down, I want to go NOW. THAT'S what Tesla gives effortlessly.
My only reason for buying the tesla is that I hate having to buy expensive fule.
However, I feel that the interior of the tesla model 3 is boring. the model x and model s interior is good.
@@jdmfan2170 It's really a matter of personal taste. All my life I have aspired to fancy cars with more and more buttons and features. Now Tesla comes along and gives us hyper-minimalism. It's a shock.
GR8TDUCK yeah, I have been inside the Tesla model 3 when I went to Sweden, it’s nice. But the reason why I prefer buttons is that, most car companies are getting rid of buttons for minimalism, while the luxury cars are keeping it, or implanting both. because it’s saves car companies money if they get rid of buttons and details.
@@jdmfan2170 I have a model S and I feel it is just fine. I love the interior. In the future, if I got a Model 3 it would be an adjustment.
Learn how to drive a manual well then. Much more fun than a slush box or a soulless EV with no gears. Driving should be about skill not how easy the car makes it for you.
Good to see you having a great time on our local roads. The noises in Tiffs car were very funny 😁 but I’m not sure they were all electronic 😂. The Alfa’s always seemed great on looks but there used to be those nagging doubts about its construction. I’m sure they are turning that corner now. Thanks again. Regards, Bob M.
Robert Mizen hi Bob and yes you maybe right about Tiff 😂 it does appear that Alfa are seriously back in the running
I love alfa romeo
For me the alfa is more stylish, but other than that tesla beats. Just to be fair, I have to admit tesla is the winner.
m k fair enough, all depends on criteria but it was certainly faster in a straight line and round the track
@@lovecarsTV No, it is not. Alfa is a much faster car and Nurbugring times prove it.
@@lovecarsTV hmm... and you just had to race on a flooded track just by chance? Seriously?
Giving an Alfa and a track to Tiff is like giving a kid an ice-cream and a chocolate, both doesn't go off without pure enjoyment to watch... 10:40
In Australia the on road price for Quadrifoglio seems to be about $50K more than the Model 3 P. I have ordered the latter. Much as I love Alfas (I have owned one and a Nissan R35 GTR) I believe we are at the beginning of a real transition. I already have a Hyundai Ioniq EV and charge it off our rooftop solar array. In nearly 10,000 km over 3 months I have put air in the tyres, water in the windscreen washers and that's it. I hardly use the brakes because of regen. Other than a slight reduction in my positive credit with my electricity company the direct running cost has been $0.00. With this experience I am confident about how well the Model 3P will work with its extra range. With so many interesting EVs (cars and SUVs and vans) coming onto the market and with lithium battery prices falling it will be game over for the combusion engine in the next decade except for some specialised applications. Yes I miss the sound. But I'll get over it.
my two dream cars!
Nice taste
Do not try to double clutch the Model 3 Tiff!!! hahaha! I feel bad for car reviewers trying to review the 3 "In every day driving to commute or run errands or drag race, it's so fast and easy to drive..." would be so boring! I can't wait until the Italians make EV daily drivers with that passion!!!
Love the video guys,Keep up the good work !
Thanks Gary
11:20 - 11:25 that was perfect
Prontoklasik Tiff at home
That screen is massive. It looks like your driving your iMac.
I have never said to myself: "If only I had a car that would slide around ass-happy all over the road."
GR8TDUCK shame
Don't turn the ESC off then?
@@lovecarsTV Or maybe I just got old at some point and stopped screwing around. Yeah, that's it. My memory isn't what it used to be... :)
Wait for it. Drift mode is coming lol 😂
renauldo gordon hopefully someone will be able to rootkit those cars and we’ll be upgrading from the phone, no more wrenching!
Tiff you make these videos so much better, I don't bother watching if tiff isn't on a love cars clip.
Alfa per sempre
I would choose the Alfa all day long. Oh wait - I did!
Hiten Patel good choice Hiten
Flexin on us normies
@Inspirice I’m normal too and not superior in any way. I’m no millionaire by any stretch of the imagination. I just work hard so I can drive hard 😉
when Tiff is behind the wheel of the Model 3, look at the door rubber seal on a B pillar, and now think about the price for this car... yeah, those kind of questions :)
It’s crazy people buy them. They look like hire cars that cost 20k
supaahflyy
The Tesla’s are put together with bubble gum... you need to open your eyes.
Alfa, every day of the week and twice on Sunday! It’s not even close.
Paul Connolly 💪
TM3 hands down. My wallet is too slim to fuel an Alfa.
vikingskipdotcom fair enough 👍
I think anyone who buys this cars can afford to refuel them ahhaha
@@lovecarsTV The fuel prices in Norway, where I live, favors EV's over ICE cars these days. Gasoline is about 1.50 € per liter, while electricity is about 0.1 € per kWh. It's about ten times more expensive to drive the Alfa than the 3 per kilometer. Then add to the picture that EV's are currently free of any taxes, event VAT, while ICE cars are heavily taxed. You can have two TM3 Performance cars here for the price of one Quadrifoglio.
@@vikingskipdotcom Servicing is also less frequent and cheaper with an EV.
@@eubikedude I know. I'm on my fourth year now driving an EV. No issues after some 50000 km in e-Golf and another 10k in 3LR AWD. Both are good cars, but different.
The model 3 is a good weekday car and the Alfa is an all around every day fun car.
Watson Dimanche 👏👏👏
I'd put it that the Alfa is a fun weekend car and the Tesla is too but also more practical as a daily driver.
The Tesla is nice but the Interieur-Design is... fail. 🤣it looks like IKEA with a steering wheel. Beside that: The Gulia QV is mutch more amazing to drive.
Not everyone’s cup of tea but for some completely perfect
That’s a major thing that bothers me about the model 3. Its weight. 1800kg?! Holy crap! We know petro heads will pick the Alfa, but you gotta admit, they haven’t been the most reliable vehicle. One of the poorest right by Jaguar and Land Rover.
So yes, we would all pick the Alfa, but if we had more choices, I’m sure we would pick something else. 😉
Great vid guys! Keep them coming! 👍🏻
Chris Juarez thank you Chris. The batteries are heavy but the weight is distributed evenly so the handling is improved if anything
Tiff misses his nokia 6110
I've owned about half a dozen Alfa's in my life. But I can afford to run the Tesla as a daily.
Tesla Model S in the garage, racking up miles.
Alfa Guilietta QV next to it, doesn't get out a lot.
Any chance of another edition of Tiff Talks coming soon guys? Really enjoy a casual car news chat...
Magnus Tan on our Patreon channel 👍 details in the bio
Paul pulling the "Whiff Needell" trick!
I love the styling and performance of the Tesla. For ICE, Alpha is great though.
Bert 88 take both 😂
i scanned through but the video looks fun, now i gotta watch from beginning to end
Xouki Long hope you enjoy
The Tesla may be quick but is the most aesthetically boring car I ever sat in.
It’s not everyone’s cup of tea
The Alfa over the Tesla anytime
Alfa would be faster if the road wouldn't be wet.
I've seen that giula is very fast and can perform better than model 3.
AgletDC it would have been very close
Does he not have track mode on with heavy regen or at least normal regen? He keeps left foot braking on fairly low speed sweeping corners at 2:40. You definitely don't need to left foot brake with the Model 3 Performance regen on all but the most hard corning.
Philip Davis not sure what mode Tiff was using, but I trust his driving more than most!
My thought as well... watch Randy Pobst Tesla 3 track videos!
I think what separates these 2 cars is you need to be a professional driver to handle the Alfa. I have a hunch most experienced divers could handle the Tesla.
Anthony Woodruffe good point
JAnx01 yes you’re absolutely right
Amazing video! i drove both cars.
and for fun: Personally, think i prefer the Giulia QV because of its handling, i really couldn't stop smiling after driving it.
Cringe Engine -Channel Re-booting in progress- it is a very fun car to drive!
Now that Tesla has come out, the Moto-journalists' jobs have gotten easy. Tesla just spanks everyone
Nonsense. Only in a short drag race or a single lap. ICE cars can do mile after mile, lap after lap, at very high speed, and refuel in minutes.
@@craigyirush3492 I agree with you, in a long race. Then, and only then, is what I said wrong. But according to this test, which is what we are talking about, and in every drag race, my statement is correct.
If they continue the race, then there will be a point in which the gas powered vehicle will eventually overtake the electric, but in every driving situation that someone could experience while driving in the city, I am dead on accurate.
@@rmv4646 No, you are not. This is a short track and if it was dry Alfa would still beat Tesla. On longer track like Nurburgring Alfa anihilates Tesla with more than a minute.
@@LEA82345 you are crazy. On a dry track it spanked the M3 also.
@@LEA82345
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It beats everything in a quarter mile and everything up to 120mph.
+1 for the Model 3
I must admit, these “Easter eggs” are stupid, just driving the car alone should be involving enough and not some stupid apps for kids on the screen.
Nicholas Hughes because features on cars has never been a good thing ?
Lovecars - I love cool features but to me, that is completely unnecessary and childish, but say an air vent that can disappear into the dashboard completely like how it did in one of the Jaguars, is complicated but still useful because it is the air conditioning.
Fair enough, different strokes for different folks I suppose 👍
Fun review, Also nice to not see comments filled with which car is better.
Logan 🙈 yep no binary opinions here !!
Interesting bit of news about the Model 3 you can now order a base Model 3 performance for under 50 grand how much is that Alfa Romeo going to run you I imagine a bit more then that number.
All depends on your location but you are probably right 👍
These are my local roads.. when you posted a photo on Instagram I rushed to the spot... all that remained were rubber “stains” left by tiff undoubtedly 🥰
Paul Merrett he’s a bit like a dog. Leaving his mark wherever he goes 😂
And super lucky living there. Wonderful roads.
Lovecars 😂
Lovecars I really am lucky 🙏
And of course Paul is in the best vehicle!....even if Tiff signed then kissed the dashboard of the Tesla in hopes that I'd buy it I would still choose the Alfa Romeo.
Fair enough
@@BLITZKRIEG1 the other guy...not Tiff.
The steering of the Alfa is pure sex.