Future of the World - Space Colonization and New Superpowers

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.พ. 2024
  • In this video I combine my two favorite topics, alternate history and space. I delve into how the future of geopolitics may look, and how we in a speculative future may colonize our solar system.
    Credit to 'StolenMadWolf' for creating the collection that several of the solar system flags in this video are based on: www.deviantart.com/stolenmadw...

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  • @PolarisStar5
    @PolarisStar5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +809

    You should make a series about an alternate future of space colonization, it would be pretty neat

    • @csimonasc
      @csimonasc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Like interstellar human civilization.

    • @Nathan-vx5ew
      @Nathan-vx5ew 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      definitly

    • @shzarmai
      @shzarmai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Agreed

    • @JTMondal
      @JTMondal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Please do

    • @GustavoCarmona-ex3vj
      @GustavoCarmona-ex3vj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes

  • @isaacbourdeau3167
    @isaacbourdeau3167 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +649

    I like this scenario. Not unreasonable but also optimistic

    • @IC3XR
      @IC3XR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Very optimistic. Nothing wrong with that tho

    • @isaacbourdeau3167
      @isaacbourdeau3167 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@IC3XR agreed

    • @user-hl7ds3er3d
      @user-hl7ds3er3d 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Нет! Ужасно, как создатель думает, что Россия станет слабой, ее пропаганда со стороны европейцев, как обычно. 😢😠

    • @jonatand2045
      @jonatand2045 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@isaacbourdeau3167
      It lacks the takeover of artificial superintelligence in the near future, but humans are more fun.

    • @basileusbasil4041
      @basileusbasil4041 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      THE UNAGING solution? That's super sci-fy.

  • @akigreus9424
    @akigreus9424 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +185

    A few small gripes.
    2200's Mars would be a "wet desert" in that there is enough water to run a small hydrosystem but no plants worth mentioning, and the water is toxic.
    Venus underutilized, cloud seeded algae farms would serve nicely to transfer nitrogen to Mars.

    • @ganieraorison6192
      @ganieraorison6192 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Gotta agree, Venus is underappreciated especially as a 2nd home as it is technically a better option compared to mass. It's gravity is higher, it already has large amounts of nitrogen and CO2 which can be used for terraforming Venus and Mars at the same time.

    • @akigreus9424
      @akigreus9424 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@ganieraorison6192 Algae that floats in the nitrogen rich clouds and is harvested with trolley ships and compressed for nitrate rich nutrient bars and fed to martians and have them poop out good fertilizer is key to a interplanetary economy.

    • @ebonaparte3853
      @ebonaparte3853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@akigreus9424Interesting…

  • @pantheraerospace752
    @pantheraerospace752 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +320

    Finally some optimism in this dark age
    Everywhere I go I see pessimistic predictions about the end of civilization but u really made my day! Here's to the future!

    • @TheNecropolis20
      @TheNecropolis20 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      by the 2200s much of the solar system will be colonized by humans from the planet earth

    • @rustyshackleford234
      @rustyshackleford234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Yeah “realism” is way too negative. We need some optimism or we are lost.

    • @magicalmagicmagician5223
      @magicalmagicmagician5223 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      ​@@rustyshackleford234 realism is just people pretending that their depression actually have a point but in reality they're just pessimistic and depressed

    • @Robweisenhowser
      @Robweisenhowser 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@magicalmagicmagician5223Realism and Idealism is equally important in human society.

    • @bloodclaat
      @bloodclaat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Robweisenhowser because they contradict each other

  • @KhAnubis
    @KhAnubis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +236

    As someone who’s also been obsessing over our future in space for the past few years, I like this, we seem to have converged on a lot of ideas (I especially like the idea of exploring a semi-post-scarcity society). I’d be interested to see how you think the Moon and Mars will look into the 23rd century, as I’ve imagined them as having different colonial territories and/or slowly breaking off into their own nations

    • @Neatling
      @Neatling  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      If I expand on this scenario at some point I may focus more on the various political entities throughout the solar system and how they're structured. As for what I actually think, I'm very uncertain, which is why I think this "alternate history" format works great, as I can just guess and make assumptions. In this scenario as of 2200 I image the political entities of the Moon are very closely tied to Earth. The United Nations has been restructured, veto rights are gone, and it actually has real power, functioning as a loose confederation akin to the European Union. The Lunar Council, now a unified federal republic, is a member of the United Nations just like the EU, China or North American Union.
      The Lunar Council is their means of resolving local disputes, and how all Moon colonies are represented at the UN. But political entities overlap, with Earth nations retaining the rights to use infrastructure on the moon to some capacity, as its how they colonize the solar system without being tied down by expensive Earth launches. So I think it would be a mix. By 2200 I think almost all decisions would be made locally on the moon through some framework like a Lunar Council, as well as smaller subdivisions, while Earth nations would keep some sort of loose ties to their Lunar settlements in order to maintain acces to their space infrastructure.

    • @rustyshackleford234
      @rustyshackleford234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I’d imagine it would be similar to European colonies in the Americas but without the natives and wouldn’t be looked back upon as horrific. Slowly these martians and lunar men will culturally become more and more different than the mother country that their colony is ruled by. Eventually they’ll secede and become solar system powers themselves. Heck, one might mirror the United States and become the most powerful and influential nation in the system.

  • @TheRavenLord1
    @TheRavenLord1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    As a native of the Moon Titan, we don’t need humans here. We are fine without them present out here.

    • @jagdawgii929
      @jagdawgii929 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      You have oil tho? We comin

    • @TheRavenLord1
      @TheRavenLord1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@jagdawgii929 then come and take it Terran

    • @matasstonkus3382
      @matasstonkus3382 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!

    • @spec214
      @spec214 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      No Xenos!!

    • @EldiniTheGenie
      @EldiniTheGenie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jagdawgii929it’s actually just methane and ethane in some liquid lakes. Still would be hella useful for fuel nonetheless

  • @Mapper_Space
    @Mapper_Space 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    You should turn this into a mapping series, with a video for every decade or so. I would love to see how each country grows and evolves.

  • @shzarmai
    @shzarmai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Alternate Future history is awesome

  • @Marylandbrony
    @Marylandbrony 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +232

    I might not agree with some details (Mainly some of the population stuff’s far future projections) or certain geopolitical developments (Russia remaining a major world power, The NAU not being a greater USA) but overall this is a reasonable head-cannon for the future.

    • @KiraiKatsuji
      @KiraiKatsuji 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      It's a speculative scenario thinking of the less sad things

    • @kenos911
      @kenos911 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      It’s certain that Russia will at least remain a decently strong force. the separation into multiple states of what we call Russia now is highly unlikely, every time there has been an attempt of doing so it has come back to a similar level of power and form

    • @THEBEEEANSS
      @THEBEEEANSS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @kenos911 there is a very good chance that Russia will have fewer than 100 million people by the end of the century. Current Russian power is merely a fading remnant of Soviet power.

    • @birb2330
      @birb2330 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@kenos911 Always Weaker

    • @SnabbKassa
      @SnabbKassa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Russia is not a world power. It just thinks it is.

  • @Terranallias18
    @Terranallias18 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

    I like how Indonesia is considered as a viable space colonial power but not Russia. It makes sense but it's pretty hilarious.

    • @KiraiKatsuji
      @KiraiKatsuji 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      Like the population growth and economic growth as well as very suitable location for launching space ships makes a lot of sense

    • @alganis3339
      @alganis3339 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He explained it quite well in the video. There is a big chance of a power struggle if Putin dies. And like he said if there is in this case a big chance for China to try to influence the results and in this case Russia will become less relevant on it's own but will be part of the Chinese sphere of influence.

    • @k.umquat8604
      @k.umquat8604 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Russia: the Portugal of Space

    • @Terranallias18
      @Terranallias18 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@k.umquat8604 Insult to Portugal

    • @k.umquat8604
      @k.umquat8604 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@Terranallias18 I meant the Portuguese Empire, not modern day Portugal

  • @Alderite
    @Alderite 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Honestly You need a Part 2 on this, Events happening between 2300's to 2500's. and what possible new nations might occur

  • @svenandersen
    @svenandersen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    As Indonesian i love how you put Indonesia as top 5 world power out of nowhere and didn't bother to explain it unlike another 4 countryside

    • @Smilemonster1912
      @Smilemonster1912 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      In context of space travel it should have been japan.

    • @Neatling
      @Neatling  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      The scope of the video just grew and grew, the flickering effects and solar system map in particular, took a lot of work. So at some point I just decided to finish the video. I do regret not including it though, only would've taken a couple more hours.
      As for the explanation, though, it's a country with a lot of potential. Southeast Asia broadly is growing rapidly. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple notable powers arise there in the coming century.

    • @_martian101
      @_martian101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Smilemonster1912 japan won't be very relevant in the future, they have experience but they're losing power rapidly, paved the way for a booming countries like indonesia to replace them, at this point the future scenario of indonesia become one of major space powers in the future become very likely to happen.

    • @rustyshackleford234
      @rustyshackleford234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@_martian101 Vietnam is promising too. Maybe it’ll democratize and more countries would invest into it. It’s already an ally with the U.S., maybe they’ll pressure them out of communism?

    • @_martian101
      @_martian101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@rustyshackleford234 Many southeast Asian countries are promising, but Indonesia will be the one that joining 5 biggest economy list in the future, so Indonesia is more likely to have large scale space industry, just like 5 biggest economy countries today, plus Indonesia is a neutral country and have close relations to all space powers which greatly help them to build their own space industry, especially China that potentially will give Indonesia a significant amount of technological transfer

  • @Mapper_Space
    @Mapper_Space 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    For the North America country, a better flag would be something along the lines of a horizontal tricolor of a red stripe on top, a blue stripe in the middle, and a green stripe on the bottom.

    • @greenweed3253
      @greenweed3253 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      and three stars in the middle

    • @giovannibini6809
      @giovannibini6809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      if it is based on the EU model why not use a similar flag with different colors? White flag with red, blu and green stars

    • @oldylad
      @oldylad หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@giovannibini6809that’s more viable but not a great looking flag. Considering the US would very likely dominate the union a flag incorporating the colors of all 3 with 3 stripes and stars representing the states (or whatever they become) of each nation is most likely, as each nation does have a federal government and it’s likely that this union would also follow an American style republic

    • @kylezdancewicz7346
      @kylezdancewicz7346 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That would look awful. But the flag he has makes it look like a Mexican country which is extremely wrong

  • @Ellhulto
    @Ellhulto 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Starship, Stellaris music and just space in general! This is an awesome video!

  • @salutic.7544
    @salutic.7544 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Pretty much the expanse lmao. I can visualize the scenario but I also feel other externalities will come into play that either heavily hinder the timeline of space colonization or possibly accelerate it.

    • @kongdragon4364
      @kongdragon4364 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I new exactly when that MCRN flag was used

    • @death_parade
      @death_parade 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He specifically said no OPA type BS will form.

  • @eidoneverchoosen1171
    @eidoneverchoosen1171 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Curing of anit aging would be nice
    Not immortal but able to still live young and be able to work and enjoy life and not be force to retire be nice.

    • @KiraiKatsuji
      @KiraiKatsuji 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Or at least to slow the degradation of our genes with age

    • @comradecapybara
      @comradecapybara 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      entropy forbids immortality but it seems an end of aging, or at least indefinite lifespans is very plausible this century.

  • @IC3XR
    @IC3XR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Definitely many countries you overestimate or underestimate, and the predictions overall are iffy at best.
    Though it is cool to see this kind of content.

    • @greenweed3253
      @greenweed3253 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      which countries did he overestimate?

    • @rustyshackleford234
      @rustyshackleford234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think he may have overestimated China and Russia. Though with the anti-aging stuff solves their largest problem, population collapse. But who knows if we’d actually invent that. He may have just used it to keep Russia and China in the story which I’m all for. The U.S. needs some enemies to compete against to actually achieve stuff nowadays lmao

    • @death_parade
      @death_parade 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@rustyshackleford234 US does have a penchant for inventing enemies when it runs out of them. So I wouldn't be too worried about that.

    • @rustyshackleford234
      @rustyshackleford234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@death_parade we have to or else we’ll start hating each other lmao

    • @PaulZyCZ
      @PaulZyCZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rustyshackleford234 anti-aging is common futurism trope, but I wouldn't count on that just yet. Maybe I will live to see that, maybe it won't work for my generation, maybe there are other restrictions, maybe it won't come for several more centuries, maybe Alien AI invades... lot of unknowns.

  • @ALIHQG
    @ALIHQG 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I wish this was longer, amazing vid!!

  • @erickromero5638
    @erickromero5638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    DAMN, what a good video man! Love all of it, mainly the asthethics looks sooo coool man, nice work!

  • @nexustheninja1927
    @nexustheninja1927 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    You just perfectly combined my two favorite subject matters! Bravo, you have definately earnt my sub for as much as that is worth lmao.

  • @da_plug13
    @da_plug13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I feel like the US uniting with Mexico is always done in scifi scenarios. I think a LatAm union that incorporates Mexico is more realistic. Maybe there would be a conflict over trade between the US and LatAm when Mexico joins them. I think a cultural union of the anglo states (US, UK, Canada, Australia, and NZ) makes more sense for the US too

    • @Nuaheal
      @Nuaheal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A union of the Hispanic world or the Iberian-speaking countries is more realistic than Latin America, In Spanish-speaking countries a movement is starting that could be translated as "Hispanism" Which can be very strong if it continues to expand, thanks to the internet this ideology could easily enter politics, It is literally creating a Spanish empire 2.0, but in phases that would last decades, Milei won the presidency due to the corruption of the corrupt Argentine governments and his popularity on the internet, Hispanism, being a decentralized ideology, So it can be adapted to communism, protectionism, ancap, etc.

    • @oldylad
      @oldylad หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I disagree. You’re thinking culturally and not economically, politically, geographically, diplomatically, etc etc. Mexico and the US are already melding culturally. The “immigrant crisis” isn’t being overblown, most states along the border have a substantial Mexican population, and the same will happen as he said in the video in reverse to Mexico as they stabilize. There’s also the issue of LatAms instability and Americas already strong position, if Mexico had to choose today they’d choose the US and it isn’t odd for them to do the same in future. Maybe a LATNAU would form between Mexico, the Central Americans and the Caribbean states that may then join a NAU, but I think the NAU is inevitable in some form, especially as cultural divides weaken

    • @da_plug13
      @da_plug13 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @oldylad you make a fair, if uncomfortable point. I agree that the current immigration crisis could completely change the cultural fabric of the US, if it hasn't started already. However, with the rise of strict anti immigration politicians and rhetoric, it's not impossible to think that the trend could be halted or even reversed with the original cultural ties being restored. Birth rates are also collapsing throughout Latin America and the Hispanic population in America. While it still might be more realistic for a north american union, I was perhaps yearning for something different. An alternate future where cultural norms and values don't decline.

  • @aquilae1670
    @aquilae1670 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is genius. Please make a series on this!

  • @SolarisSaber
    @SolarisSaber 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is essentially The Expanse lore

    • @Geo-Global-oz5kl
      @Geo-Global-oz5kl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But without the United planet trope.

    • @nakedbean6649
      @nakedbean6649 หลายเดือนก่อน

      United trope is just lazy

  • @Maxeh
    @Maxeh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    And it all changed when Humanity activated the Charon relay.

  • @sauravgupta8819
    @sauravgupta8819 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    love the quality of your content

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_5342 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'd love to see a similar scenario about the future but in a world where nuclear apocalypse happens and civilization survives in bunkers

  • @johnlivelys
    @johnlivelys 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Very good video would love to see more content related to these parameters possibly exploring the individual history of each colony

  • @codysparks1454
    @codysparks1454 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This reminds me a lot of The Expanse, which I think is the most accurate depiction of what our future could look like. Great job!

  • @alcyoncalinner2005
    @alcyoncalinner2005 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I'm writing a sci-fi universe called "Ikanis Universe" with a friend and I really liked the way you treated this alternate future. Right now I am in the process of researching futurology in numerous places, in addition to reading books on the subject.
    Also my search is on the internet, looking for pages on this topic, and watching videos like these as a way to base myself on the data given here to create the future of the science fiction universe that my friend and I are creating, it seems. As for the idea presented here, I have a very similar vision about the future of today in 200 years.
    I have seen the previous parts of this video and they are very good, I rely on a part of it for my science fiction universe as well as other sources where I look for guidance and inspiration for it.
    Thank you very much and good video :D

    • @tom_skip3523
      @tom_skip3523 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I am also writing a book with the same topic. Does the Ikanis Universe depict a realistic approach of mankind in the future?

    • @alcyoncalinner2005
      @alcyoncalinner2005 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tom_skip3523
      My friend and I who are working on the project try to be as realistic as possible.
      Although in reality this universe is utopian science fiction in some aspects, like Star Trek, not in all but in some, such as showing that humanity and the Earth evolved to be a better civilization in the centuries to come. But it's also about dystopian and dark themes.
      There are several things that I could consider realistic to the point of being hard science fiction, such as the space battles that we make realistic. While in other things there are aspects of this that could be considered speculative and fantastic, because there are quite a few exotic concepts like parallel universes and alternative timelines, or beings of great cosmic powers.
      The Ikanis Universe is divided into three parallel realities called Nuclei: N1, N1.1 and N2, the main realities, although there are 7 in total, and other multiverses, within a Multiverse called "The Registry" by a brane hypercomputer created by a type six civilization that records numerous past, present and even future events from across the multiverse.
      By the way, the name of the universe "Ikanis" comes from the name of the protagonist, "Ikanis Calinner", a human-like alien woman, artificially created in a laboratory as a project of an alien species also human-like, called the Sanssahar.
      If you are interested in knowing more about this universe, keep contacting me, thank you. And I have a blog, on the blogger platform where we publish the stories of this universe and others of our authorship, you can find the link in the links on my TH-cam channel.
      By the way, my native language is not English, it is Spanish, the blog is in Spanish, but right now I am trying to translate our stories into English so that more people can read them. I'm also learning English.
      By the way, now I ask, what is your universe about? Greetings.

    • @tom_skip3523
      @tom_skip3523 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alcyoncalinner2005 That sounds great! Congratulations on getting this far already. I love sci fi utopias and dystopias. Keep up the good work sounds very interesting.
      Am German btw, nice to meet you :)
      About my story. I'm planning a sci fi story in several parts. At the time of the prequel we are in the 23rd century. Humanity, which has evolved more and more into a united species and has already colonized many planets and moons in the solar system with a lot of trade between the colonies and Earth. A dyson sphere is currently being built, but it is far from finished.
      In any case, humanity is starting a project to spread humanity throughout the galaxy. :)
      So much for the backstory, don't want to give too much away. The real story is about a girl born in a colony as part of the project.
      There is a really dystopian ending, at least for the 1st part. So much for that :D
      I'm currently doing a lot of research and philosophizing. Long time project.

    • @alcyoncalinner2005
      @alcyoncalinner2005 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tom_skip3523
      Thank you very much, really what motivates us the most is seeing that other people like what we write. I'm from Mexico, great pleasure too.
      Your story is interesting, it seems that humanity reached a class II civilization quite quickly by already having a Dyson sphere under construction around the Sun. It seems that humanity is in a golden age. Something I wonder about is that there are other alien species, in addition to this galactic colonization project.
      I understand, I don't want to reveal too much of my backstory either. And you already have a character, that girl born in space. I would love to read about the universe. Right now the Ikanis Universe of me and my friend have started writing the first book, we plan to send it to a publisher, and we are also trying to find a way to copyright our writings since it is something very important.
      In short, these types of projects require a lot of patience, research and philosophizing as you indicate.
      Greetings :D

    • @tom_skip3523
      @tom_skip3523 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alcyoncalinner2005 Exactly :) Have a good day and weeks and months :D

  • @matheusexpedito4577
    @matheusexpedito4577 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    No countries, only *UNIFIED HUMAN EMPIRE*

    • @mrnoob2514
      @mrnoob2514 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Impossible tbh.

    • @boiled_fish_with_rice
      @boiled_fish_with_rice 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Homo sapien ape alliance

    • @8.4.8.2
      @8.4.8.2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes but maybe in 500 years

    • @mrnoob2514
      @mrnoob2514 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@8.4.8.2 nope, would take about 1 millenia, a Unified human empire is unrealistic.

    • @death_parade
      @death_parade 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No thanks. We are not interested.

  • @Stargaze_youtube
    @Stargaze_youtube 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting and rich video. Thank you!

  • @ethanlackey8048
    @ethanlackey8048 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This has lead to a future I did not think about, a split between people living in the void or on lighter worlds traveling wherever while people from heavy worlds are for all intents and purposes largely trapped.

  • @caesarshotdogchampion8738
    @caesarshotdogchampion8738 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You put music from Stellaris! Great video as always

  • @debott4538
    @debott4538 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think this is somewhat of a best case scenario and I'm 100% here for it. :)

    • @oldylad
      @oldylad หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is NOT the best case. This is an optimistic view, but it isn’t the best case by a long shot

  • @ramicollo
    @ramicollo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was a fun & interesting watch, well done 👍

  • @mohit5496
    @mohit5496 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gave me goosebumps and hope for future. Nice video

  • @benyseus6325
    @benyseus6325 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    No United Earth or Federation :(

  • @NChatterjee
    @NChatterjee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Definitely a truly quality content.

  • @kiyannabily4090
    @kiyannabily4090 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked this and found that the ideas you presented are the same ideas that I have when I think into the future of our civilization and space colonization

  • @WyrmrestAccord
    @WyrmrestAccord 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stelaris music on the background is just on point.

  • @juanmendez3290
    @juanmendez3290 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really love this series

  • @warrenharris4467
    @warrenharris4467 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Hey, what if Earth becomes just one big country?.

    • @death_parade
      @death_parade 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not gonna happen. Ever. Nope. Never. We Indians won't allow it. We've had enough of globalists killing our culture.

    • @HWQFish
      @HWQFish 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is communism end goal, fyi. Yet it is seen as evil.

  • @jellemaarten2145
    @jellemaarten2145 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is super entertaining!

  • @sergimaldonadogarcia7651
    @sergimaldonadogarcia7651 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    It was an amazing, difficult but realistic scenario, I really love it, it's even perfect for a book. But I have one tiny question, is the anti-aging treatment you mention based on the one explained in the Red Mars book saga?

    • @Neatling
      @Neatling  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Thanks! It's actually just based on real world efforts which I find interesting, and imagine could lead to an eventual complete curing of ageing. From what I can gather scientists have successfully not just prevented, but also reversed ageing in mice through gene therapy. So I don't think it's that big a leap to say we may do the same in humans this century. Perhaps first in our pets, so we can have them with us for longer. Then the ultra wealthy will have acces to it, and then eventually the general population.
      In this scenario specifically I imagine wealthy ageing societies like Europe, Japan, China and North America offer the treatment either freely or cheaply through government subsidies to their populations, in order to avoid the worst affects of collapsing birth rates. But in poorer countries it would probably be more difficult to get acces to, some countries might even restrict the acces to anti ageing medication because their populations are growing too much.

    • @alexander-5848
      @alexander-5848 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Neatlingone of the only things I done really agree with is the anti aging medication, I think that's a bit too far fetched for the next 100-200 years. It is technically possible though.

    • @Bezimienny1598
      @Bezimienny1598 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@NeatlingAre you sure you've seen studies where they've managed to prevent aging in a mouse? I've definitely seen the studies about reversing age, they are fascinating and 100% legit but haven't heard of anyone PREVENTING aging in mice.

    • @Bezimienny1598
      @Bezimienny1598 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@alexander-5848The biggest hurdle right now in Aging science is the astronomical amount of data needed to predict protein folding and the mechanisms involved in the process of aging. Our current systems are incapable of managing this and we're still collecting the neccesary data but AI will 100% become advanced enough in as little as a decade of time.
      After that, it's basically just collecting data and letting the AI do its thing with enough compute. The AI will predict new, as of yet unknown proteins which will result in a LOT of new medications and let us better understand how proteins behave in our bodies.
      Preventing aging altogether is, I agree here, at least a century away but with AI spearheading the number crunching which we desperately need, we'll extend our lifetimes by decades if not a century. That means that we'll keep extending our lives as long as it's needed for proper gene editing to be perfected and let us finally cure aging.
      This is already starting, really. Over the last few years, thousands(if I remember correctly) of new biomed companies have been opening up with their mission being curing aging or at least extending life. As of yet, it's only really billionaires funding these in hopes of extending their lives but it should start picking up steam once research gets going.

  • @sabastianclements5371
    @sabastianclements5371 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved this

  • @rufustrukhin3894
    @rufustrukhin3894 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Really liked this scenario. You are one of the only creators I know who competently uses AI generated images, both fittingly and tastefully. This in combination with your beautiful maps which are a combinations of realistic and yet beautiful borders make for some of the best contents on the site.
    TL;DR: Great vid, dawg. Hello from Sweden.

  • @trueluscao
    @trueluscao 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i love it when you do videos like this!

  • @andreidogaru3733
    @andreidogaru3733 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    To say that no interstellar missions have been attempted by the 2200s is a gross underestimation of the future.

    • @debott4538
      @debott4538 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They might have been attempted, but would be hardly relevant to this scneario, would they?

    • @PaulZyCZ
      @PaulZyCZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We may have means to maybe send a probe to Alpha Centauri (with big price tag), but until fusion drive works as advertised I wouldn't bet on anything bigger going there. A colony needs to have 2000 people at the very least minimum, unless we send an AI ship and androids act as parents for the vat babies (artificial womb, 3D bio-printer). Even that wouldn't change the politics, besides having a colony somewhere out there.

    • @giovannibini6809
      @giovannibini6809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it took 50+ years just to go back to the moon

    • @oldylad
      @oldylad หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PaulZyCZthe Alcubierre drive and fusion power aren’t as far off as you seem to believe. Recently a fusion research lab achieved fusion at around 1/3 gross power gain, only problem is the power waste to get there. The Alcubierre drive also has seen some development with the power required dropping substantially to the point that a. Fusion reactor is all that’s needed to utilize it theoretically, no testing has occurred yet. Quantum computing is seeing a lot of progress as well to guide and control a faster than light ship. It’s all happening, it may take 50 years but it will happen

    • @oldylad
      @oldylad หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@giovannibini6809because the moon is a big rock that we’ve already been to. We also have rovers going back there to study whatever we need. The only reason to go back would be to mine or colonize it, and we haven’t had the tech for that until recently

  • @goranohlsson9235
    @goranohlsson9235 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Had been fun if you made scenario like this video, but with the orion-drive as a foundation to faster (mayby interstellar) space travel.
    Amazing video btw ; )

  • @alexdesousa7966
    @alexdesousa7966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent work! Congratulations 👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏 this is a pretty neat and well researched video. I've shared it a lot.

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_5342 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really nice and creative scenario 👍

  • @HollowSleep
    @HollowSleep 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was pretty cool.

  • @foxival5150
    @foxival5150 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This Video is Awesome, it would be Nice if there would some more Videos coming About this Topic

  • @ss-oq9pc
    @ss-oq9pc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Cool video.
    Consider doing an alternate future on what if the "Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (the AMOC)" collapsed. Like in the Day After Tomorrow movie but realistic and gradual.

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    These future solar system colonization thoughts are so much fun to listen to. Thank you for this. I wonder if we'll manage to do something comparable.
    God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)

  • @PeriodicAerospace
    @PeriodicAerospace 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice job explaining Change Velocity (Delta V)

  • @virginlungs420x
    @virginlungs420x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    would love to see you do a video on speculative WW3. I can’t imagine it’ll be as optimistic as this one tho😭

  • @vinniepeterss
    @vinniepeterss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    keep this topic going

  • @zealuxa6989
    @zealuxa6989 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I feel like a lot of this will happen on a timeline quicker than we would think.

    • @digitaldud3664
      @digitaldud3664 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why? Go into more detail please

    • @TheKBC14
      @TheKBC14 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. Why? Because of singularity. Need a better why? Whatever religion was going on about.

    • @icarus387
      @icarus387 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Private space companies in the future will play a important role in space expansion. While space agencies lead the way in space exploration, they can be hampered by bureaucracy and political setback. I feel like private space companies have an advantage with profit motive incentives like orbital launches from SpaceX and alike. One day, private space companies will send interplanetary payloads to other planets Like SpaceX is attempting to do with Mars and other companies like Rocket lab are planning to send a payload to Venus to study Venus's atmosphere with their own privately built rockets.

    • @death_parade
      @death_parade 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@digitaldud3664 Because exponential growth is what we are undergoing right now and we humans are the best when it comes to underestimating/not understanding the nature of exponential growth.

    • @death_parade
      @death_parade 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@icarus387 Indeed, the nature of space exploration in the future will shift from government space agency centric to private merchant centric combined with governments shifting focus to space security through space forces, rather than doing the space missions themselves.

  • @LeePelagius
    @LeePelagius 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The moment Europe Unification is brought up, especially including Britain, Scandinavia or the Balkans, your alternate history scenario is immediately irrelevant lol

    • @georgeoldsterd8994
      @georgeoldsterd8994 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who can forget the Yugoslav-Danish unification of 2100?

  • @Texan_christian1132
    @Texan_christian1132 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    8:42 the USA would still hold most of the power and domination of the union. Canada won’t be able to catch up because it’s mostly uninhabitable and it wouldn’t be able to grow faster than the USA.

  • @redsharkblueshark1878
    @redsharkblueshark1878 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the idea that each of the main planets is like its own region, and the colonies on their moons.

  • @Clayvalue
    @Clayvalue 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I friggen love the classic analytical green matrix’s

  • @ladymorwendaebrethil-feani4031
    @ladymorwendaebrethil-feani4031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It seems quite optimistic. I hope things move in that direction.

  • @SnowuhsFrostbite
    @SnowuhsFrostbite 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im begging you, please expand this!! it sounds so cool :D

  • @vinniepeterss
    @vinniepeterss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    love it🎉

  • @Carl_ATHF
    @Carl_ATHF 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    10:37 Belarus is firmly allied with Russia for centuries to come, this is a weird part of the video lol

    • @KiraiKatsuji
      @KiraiKatsuji 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah no, it can be said about their leader Alexander Lukashenko but from what the population has been demanding for few years now i certainly doubt that if they saw an opportunity they wouldn't go for it to be independant

    • @hazb8026
      @hazb8026 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol what? What alliance in history has lasted for centuries? Let alone in a deeply poverty stricken and politically unstable country like Belarus

    • @KiraiKatsuji
      @KiraiKatsuji 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hazb8026 Portugal

    • @hazb8026
      @hazb8026 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KiraiKatsuji Portugal isn't an alliance. It's a country. You mean with the UK. But the UK and Portugal have multiple common interests like balancing Spain/Ireland.
      Meanwhile Belarus actively has it's national interest worked against by Russia

    • @KiraiKatsuji
      @KiraiKatsuji 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hazb8026 Portugal is an alliance of empty land and a big coastline, but in seriousness yes i meant Portugal and England/UK as you asked which alliance in history lasted centuries so i gave you portugal and it also is politically unstable for a long time and poor

  • @shzarmai
    @shzarmai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope Middle Eastern, African and South American Countries get to establish their own Space Colonies in the future

  • @Quantum_64
    @Quantum_64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro hit us with the Gundam Newtype Theory

  • @vessel4475
    @vessel4475 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Seriously, I really like how you go in-depth with the future state of Earth politics; particularly with how the United States eventually subsumes the provinces of Canada and the states of Mexico (Granted, I do think Greenland would eventually become another state in the union given how much it resents the Netherlands for not paying attention to its needs and it'd probably be taken care of by the US due to vested interests in the Arctic).
    I think that with the onset of anti-aging medicines and the rise of personalized medicines (thanks to the protein folding problem being solved by AI) and CRISPR, it's not too far off to suggest that personal gene-editing of the human race by choice is out of the picture. Certain attributes to make selected individuals be more suited for long voyage space missions around the solar system and even beyond into interstellar exploration missions. In any case, I hope this becomes a series!

    • @omrb132
      @omrb132 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sad to born in this time

    • @rustyshackleford234
      @rustyshackleford234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Heck, the U.S. has offered to buy Greenland from Denmark recently but the Danes refused. Maybe someday it’ll be ours…

    • @vessel4475
      @vessel4475 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rustyshackleford234 Well, given the proximity to the US and that Greenland has been looking to be independent from Denmark for a while because they've felt neglected makes it seem like they're looking for a new country to act on its behalf and provide resources for them. Greenland's next parliamentary election is coming next year so I think it's a fair shot to assume that they'll try to vote for independence by then.

    • @mommoffa
      @mommoffa หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vessel4475 Do you really know anything about local Greenlandic politics? They are very much against becoming a part of the US, they want more autonomy from Denmark yes (not the Netherlands, as you first said in your comment), but they also do know they do not have a large enough population to serve themselves with their current local economy, security and infrastructure and so would much rather continue being part of Denmark.
      You sound clueless

    • @vessel4475
      @vessel4475 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mommoffa they are going to vote out of being part of Denmark because of how little Denmark is taking a part in their nation’s affairs, and both Canada and the US are much closer to provide support from them than Denmark would.
      This is literally in the far future, you just sound like a dolt that thinks they’re smarter than they really are.

  • @NoobHammer
    @NoobHammer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    God made humans so our glorious species would conquer the stars

  • @neoelementiathedanknight3564
    @neoelementiathedanknight3564 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good video, but this is only assuming the world doesn't get crazier than it currently is and that the status quo is more or less maintained. Could you do a video where the current earth crisis runs its course and shakes up the world order and dedollarization and all that, and then space travel takes off.

  • @Braweusz
    @Braweusz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hi Neatling! I don't know if you will notice my comment, but some time ago I came across an article about the fact that the Anglo-Saxons had a colony in the Crimea which was called New England, they founded it supposedly after the Norman conquest of England in 1066, there are some sources out there that confirm this but there is no exact certainty. I would like to ask you, will there be a video with an alternative history at your place as if this would actually happen? I am curious about your opinion, greetings!

  • @leveluplegends123
    @leveluplegends123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    MAKE A PART 2

  • @catsyrup5455
    @catsyrup5455 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like these videos

  • @orfeas8
    @orfeas8 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I enjoyed this very much! Tell us more on this space lore like what new sciences and technologies would be invented, breakthroughs on them and integration of AI/robots in all this. Also what new events would happen in the universe (info on black holes, nebulae. maybe death of a star etc)? I believe humans in some planets close to Earth's atmosphere like Titan and Europa would be genetically modified to have no problem living without special suits.

  • @superkartoffel7479
    @superkartoffel7479 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ok so this was pretty neat but what about going beyond our home system? Would be intersting to see how a civilization tries to keep together when even the speed of light is too slow to reasonably communicate between the stars.

  • @George-real
    @George-real 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My main problem with this future is that anti aging wouldn’t stop the population problem. Even with a universal basic income people wouldn’t be happy. You have people pushed into dense urban environments which will ultimately lead to mass depression. Unless we also genetically engineer humans to be more independent and less reliant on community (which in and of itself would be unpredictable and cause it’s own problems) we will be dealing with mass suicide and the birth rate won’t fix. People aren’t going to be happy with a consistent standard of living from their 20s to their 200s. People not being able to raise families in urban environments will cause all sorts of turmoil in our genetics. I could easily see all of these states collapsing into anarchy. Even if the problems listed are somehow solved without work people would get so bored that they would either resign to substance abuse and other forms of hedonistic living or decide to start some sort of revolution.

    • @ryujin9568
      @ryujin9568 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Another important thing to note is purpose. A universal basic income would quickly lead to crippling depression in and of itself. Humans need a purpose just as much as we need community.

    • @George-real
      @George-real 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ryujin9568 exactly if you look at the men who live the longest it’s the men who stay busy. There’s a reason your chance of death shoots up when you retire.

  • @antaryjczyk
    @antaryjczyk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Soooooooooooo....basically we have a plot of "The Expanse"....highly recommend it...one of the best sci-fi shows ever

  • @exploman6382
    @exploman6382 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tbh that feels a lot like the future of the expanse

  • @PaulZyCZ
    @PaulZyCZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:00 - Don't forget more advanced launching systems. Some cargos can "yeet" in space at 1000 G, such as using orbital cannon or Spinlaunch. There's ongoing research towards the orbital elevator. Using active support (think bouncing castle, but with molten iron instead of air) it's possible to build other launching megastructures. Orbital ring seems like the best 1960's science approach towards daily commute to LEO or even evacuating Earth if it comes to that (same colony ships as A.C.Clarke envisioned). It may turn out the Orbital ring is easier to build than Elevator, although politics may play against it.
    There are also other conceptual ways to get in space, which often seem like UFO: For example there's induction-based engine NASA is already testing in satelites, but like atmospheric ion engines it may require serious advances in superconductor and material engineering. More down-to earth approach is using laser instead of the oxidizer. If I remember right, the proposal claimed instead 90 % reduction of the rocket mass. So a ship like Starship would deliver kilotons of cargo in one go or instead of 500 $/kg it would be 50 $/kg.
    Want a dirt cheap electricity from space? See Mars Valineris up close at Christmas? Move to Epsilon Eridani, after spending few decades in cryo and never look back, once the new optimized fusion starliner launches? We are so close yet so far, but it's possible.

  • @snickisntreal
    @snickisntreal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it would be interesting to consider the possibilities of genetic engineering in future scenarios like this. It could be possible to engineer humans to assume a ton of different forms and be physically fit for a multitude of different environments. Challenges like radiation and microgravity could be overcome by just tweaking ourselves to be able to tolerate them.

  • @darknessincarnate138
    @darknessincarnate138 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This makes wanna live more even if my life isn't that good just to see something like this happen would be great

  • @Illuminat-ve5ue
    @Illuminat-ve5ue 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should make a video also about the far future, in which humanity is at the brink of exhausting resources in the solar system, like maybe in 10 thousand years or so

  • @hexapodc.1973
    @hexapodc.1973 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve seen plans for habitats on Venus involving either big ass towers with habitats on the very top or airships that float in the atmosphere, just cuz there’s a point in the atmosphere of Venus where both pressure and temperature are the same as earth and sulfuric acid doesn’t reach up to. I feel like Venus would have populations like maybe not quite as high as mars but at least comparable

  • @Reinhard_Erlik
    @Reinhard_Erlik 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it unlikely that jobs will become scarce and this rate of technological progress will slow down sooner or later. With the mining of resources from outer space and automation being prevalent, it will increase the living standards greatly and wages will increase too, newer jobs can be made in various sectors that already exist or that will exist, the militaries of most countries can be expanded aswell.

  • @NickWrightDataYT
    @NickWrightDataYT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Comparing Pluto to Antarctica in terms of how we only quasi-"settled" it is genius. Absolutely going to be true.

  • @charlieross6586
    @charlieross6586 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I may ask where did you get the idea that we would develop technology that would reverse and prevent aging, and how long would the average human live in this future world.

  • @normanmendez636
    @normanmendez636 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Is that the Mars flag from The Expanse? 14:32

    • @Neatling
      @Neatling  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It is!

  • @diamond2k997
    @diamond2k997 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    15:31 I love Saturns flag

  • @icarus387
    @icarus387 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Africa in the 2100s will make up 40% of humanity on earth. While I think that African countries still have a long way to go for economic development, I think some African countries will utilize space exploration to ease overpopulation and resource constraints by investing in asteroid mining. Space exploration by then should be more accessible to most countries and corporations as the cost per kg decreases overtime with developments into reusable rockets and other concepts such as a Space elevator, Sky hook, etc. Kenya already has a spaceport called the San Marco Platform that have historically been used by the Italian space program in the 1960s. I'm not so sure if the Kenyan government is planning on reviving the launch platform but it would be a good investment to develop a space launch center given Kenya's position along the earth's equator.

  • @alternateye2711
    @alternateye2711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Plese make this into a more comprehensive series pleasse

  • @johnmccarthy4134
    @johnmccarthy4134 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also Venus has the ability to be populated but probably only on airship colonies or a cloud city type scenario.

  • @paulinalevina9690
    @paulinalevina9690 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Top16 major powers as of 2100:
    1. North America
    2. China
    3. Europe
    4. India
    5. Russia
    6. Indonesia
    7. East Africa
    8. South Africa
    9. Nigeria
    10. Brazil
    11. Japan
    12. Oceania
    13. Egypt
    14. Ethiopia
    15. Morocco
    16. Korea

  • @themattsterdn1824
    @themattsterdn1824 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What software do you use to make your maps on earth?

    • @Neatling
      @Neatling  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I use Photoshop for all my maps

  • @davidT.C
    @davidT.C 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well if you are tracking the space program of both China and the US the likelihood of China being faster than the US is higher as they already have a plausible time table with tangible steps already in place.

  • @mysteryguyiscool5054
    @mysteryguyiscool5054 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tbh this future is awesome while being somewhat realistic

  • @anguscovoflyer95
    @anguscovoflyer95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some day after that, humans will start doing interstellar travel to planets that are like earth in craft that can go a significant portion of the speed of light

  • @cassiopesysg5423
    @cassiopesysg5423 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a Shanghainese, I always dreamt of having a high tech Yangtze Magapolis of 200mil people and becoming the largest city in the world.

  • @Ricardo-lb4so
    @Ricardo-lb4so 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent analysis and scenery building. In a previous prospective exercise I came to the same conclussions. Setting up space exploration infrastructure off Earth is essential in any expansion though the solar system. I hope the Chinese prove successful in their plans to establishing a lunar base by 2040. By the way, when it comes to forming a sustainable alternate habitat I would choose Europa instead of mars.