NEW FULL RULES! Basic Battles - Version 2.0 | Tabletop Games for Kids
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In April of 2020 we released a simplified, yet exciting rules set for war gaming that works really well with kids between the ages of 5-10. As we have discovered from the positive community response, this rules set has nevertheless been popular among wargamers of all ages. Needless to say, we are extremely excited that this project has proven such a success!
Basic Battles, however, is far from perfect. In our own play-testing over the past year-and-a-half we have come across several areas for improvement. Moreover, numerous viewers have written to us with very insightful suggestions for how to make this simple game system even better. As such, we have gone back to the rules and worked out a revised version: Basic Battles 2.0!
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Timestamps for Basic Battles - Version 2.0
00:24. Introduction
1:51. Beginning
5:09. Movement
7:54. Shooting
9:56. Combat
12:42. Ending
I play this with my grandchildren. We use Lego Star Wars Minifigures. It's great fun. Thanks for the Rules.
Awesome! LEGO Star Wars is perfect! For smaller figurines a D6 system might work better. I am currently play testing a few different models. Happy playing!! 😊👍
I am currently working on a PDF document for this rules set that I am hoping to be able to offer viewers in the coming weeks. Please stay tuned to Gray Army Gaming for more information!
eagerly awaiting the pdf! I have been looking for something like this to get my daughter and my nephew into wargaming 6.5 and 5, so this is looking really promising! :D
Awesome! I Will definitely keep you posted about the progress of the PDF! All the best with your gaming! 👍😊
@@zerxe7689 Super! I am hoping to get something together in the coming weeks if my schedule allows!
Sounds great! 😁👍
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I´m a teacher and live in Mexico, and d20 are a rare comodity, so I teach this sistem in only d6s. and the kids love it. thanks for your work.
Awesome! I would love to see how you have done it with D6s! All the best to you and your kids!
You should send me a private message to grayarmygaming@gmail.com. I am sure that a bunch of us in the community could get a shipment of d20s sent to your school! How many would your students need? Also d12s?
Yeah i want to know how you did it. I have just 2 d20s but lots of d6's.
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Hi,
I realize this is coming incredibly late, but do you still need d20 dice (and/or other sizes)? I'm about to move to a retirement community, and have to pare down my stuff. In this case I have a LOT of dice of all types. And depending on the kinds of figures you use, I probably have some of those I can send your way, too. When I ran a wargaming group at a local school about 10 years ago, I made sure the kids went home with rules, figures, and dice. I don't know now whether any of them got use out of the stuff--I hope so. And if they didn't, their parents might have: my group was the only one in the school's history that had a waiting list (which I think included several fathers who wanted to play!)
My son and I have been trying to come up with something like this for ages. This has proven to be the perfect solution for us. It's even gotten our family members who usually aren't interested to join in. Thanks!
Awesome! It makes me SOOO happy to hear that the game has been positive for the family! 🤗 My idea with the game was to start playing more with my own kids. Have a blast with everyone!! 😊
i am in the process of painting soldiers of the American Revolution, i love how you have made it simple. I am new to gaming, but i have found some of the various battles out there are kinda complicated with rules, cards, etc etc.... I am looking forward to trying this out with the infantry, cavalry, and artillery. Excited!! Thank you
Thank you! Cool with soldiers from the American Revolution!! Please do keep me updated about how it goes! 😊👍
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
m.th-cam.com/video/G3IOr0wBdFs/w-d-xo.html
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Dude. This is just what I was searching for a while. And find it by chance! Thanks. I'll try this with my 5y kid.
Awesome! Have fun! Let me know how it goes!! 😊👍
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
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So so so happy to see many of the things i just figured out for the previous version.
Really love it, already tested it alone (i'm got a cold xD) and it's pretty fun!!!
Awesome! Please do let me know how your playing goes and if you have any ideas for how to improve the rules even more!
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
m.th-cam.com/video/G3IOr0wBdFs/w-d-xo.html
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Enjoyed the video !!! I’m new to table top this was helpful !
Great! Welcome to the hobby, and happy gaming!! 😊👍
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
m.th-cam.com/video/G3IOr0wBdFs/w-d-xo.html
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This is somewhat familiar in theory to C&C/ Clash of Spears rules that I use. I love the added complexity of the ranged attacks. Also, another experiment might be giving one kid 4 units that defend at 3 vs another who has 1 or 2 units that defends at 6. Quality vs quantity! Great job!
I have heard of Clash of Spears, but never played it. I will definitely have to check it out! Thanks for the tip. There are a ton of variations for dividing up points (quality vs. quantity, as you wrote-love it!). I have not been able to playtest enough to try out tons of different options, but hopefully all of you will be able to try out some different variations! I look forward to hearing from you regarding which setup has been the most fun! 😊
@@GrayArmyGaming Clash of Spears was a bit too much for me because Im over 60, play solo, and dont like too much cross referencing of rules, so I use a simple system based on commands and colors ancients rules. I like your rules, if they’re good for kids, they should work fine for old dudes as well! As for quantity vs quality…i tried my rules with a horde of Britains attacking a Roman cohort, using the CCA rules, and I thought the Romans would lose terribly, but they held them off. It is very cool to see a system work! I like your rules because they are universal, which is what I was working on as well with the CC adaption. So I could use any miniatures from the period and do a battle. I would started some rules for using the minis from Twilight imperium to fight a space battle, and had a few ideas like yours but shelved it to work on other game ideas. I think your rules would do just fine for them.
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
m.th-cam.com/video/G3IOr0wBdFs/w-d-xo.html
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Love the simple game rules. How did yall make the play mat? Or where did yall get it? It looks great!
Thanks so much. It is a very fun system!! 😊👍 Here is a link to the mat I was using: www.deepcutstudio.com/product/game-mat-beach/
Kindest regards!
Hi,
I'm loving everything you guys are doing. I have been trying to put on games designed for kids and newcomers at the big wargaming conventions held on the East Coast (Cold Wars, Historicon, and Fall In), but with only mixed success. My themes have been historical, which attracted few kids (history? What's that?), but a lot more adults than I expected. (Gettysburg? Yeah, I've heard of that.). Your rules of course solve the kid-dilemma by being easily adapted for such things as Fantasy and (especially) Star Wars! My hope is that once they get involved in non-historical games, historical alternatives will look a lot more attractive. I have 2 built-in lab rats (5y and 7y grandsons), which will help me test out whichever themes work best. Many, many thanks!
That is awesome! Thanks for sharing! What I have noticed with my own kids is that they always get really excited about a great story! And that is exactly what history is about-great stories! I am totally with you there on the historical front! If we can get the kids interested and invested in the stories (with even a bit of historical flourish here and there-like the fictional Private Jensen who has to sneak his way through enemy lines at Gettysburg to bring his commander a crucial message, but who gets caught up in the larger battle), then the historical war gaming will be no problem! I wish you all the best with your gaming! 😊👍
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
m.th-cam.com/video/G3IOr0wBdFs/w-d-xo.html
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I plan on using this in a few weeks for a wargaming clinic that I'm putting on at the high school I teach at. Great setup for first time players.
Awesome! Please do let me know how it goes! 👍😊
Look in to “one page rules” .
@@Eyslava123 I will! Thanks for the tip!
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
m.th-cam.com/video/G3IOr0wBdFs/w-d-xo.html
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Hopefully you will play a test game of super small skirmishes and do a video of it.
I have the first episode of SSS coming out in 2 weeks! Tomorrow I will be playing and recording Episode 2!! In each of these I have made slight rules changes that I will be adding to the rules sheet (which will have an extended section on Basic Battles: Super Small Skirmishes). So far the rules have been fantastic! So dynamic and exciting! 😊👍
looking forward to see if i can organize a gaming club at the local library :) such a terrible time to grow up through, hope this bring good times to small folk
Indeed! I wish you all the best in getting together some players to play. You are right, this has been a tough couple of years, but hang in there! We will get through it together! All the best to you!
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
@@GrayArmyGaming keep up the hard work xD
@@MrFranklitalien Thanks so much! I am hoping to have everything finished and published by Thursday. I will keep you updated! 😊👍
The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
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The cool part about this system is if you wanna add more complex mechanics per unit it isnt hard to do. Now those cool halo mega blocks figures are useful
Indeed! Thanks so much for checking it out! Kindest regards! 😊👍
How do you balance out the number of minis if you adjust the hits for ranged? Would the ranged side have double the minis? Using your example of 6 vs 3 hits for melee vs ranged means I’d have to have 2 minis for ranged to balance the total?
Hi! Thanks for your great question! I would try to keep the mini numbers equal on each side (say, 5 vs. 5), but I would account for the relative difference in strength/ability by assigning ranged figurines half of the wounds. For example, one side (only melee) could have 5 figurines at 6 wounds each for a total of 30 wounds, and the other side (melee + ranged) could have 5 figurines at 3 wounds for a total of 15 wounds. Were each side to mix it up with their 5 figurines they could still assign 6 wounds to each melee and 3 wounds to each melee + ranged. In the end, this rule may need to be tweaked to find the right balance (such as 6-2 wounds value or 6-4), depending entirely on how the ranged figurines perform in relation to the melee.
Hope that answers your question! 😊👍
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
@@GrayArmyGaming since this time I came up with an army man miniature game as well for my son. Let me know if you have a chance to review and let me know what you think. drive.google.com/drive/folders/1G4CKWE_21MirDSZE_ORMB8lyCmlXAbk4
The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
m.th-cam.com/video/G3IOr0wBdFs/w-d-xo.html
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fantastic little rules. please more rules with knights, dragons, warriors. greetings from deutschland
Thanks so much! I hope to get out a few more sample games with my kids are some of my Warhammer Fantasy figurines! 👍😊 Hope all is well for you in Germany! Kindest greetings from your neighbor across the sea! 😊🇸🇪
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
@@GrayArmyGaming thank you very much for your answer. i was very pleased about it
@@martinziegelmann9120 😊👍 I am hoping to have everything ready by Thursday! I will send you another message when I am finished! 🤩
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Nice updates. I think the ranged attacks worked well. Can a figure that has both melee and ranged attack options who is base-to-base in melee with the enemy choose to use a ranged attack against a different enemy and if so does the adjacent enemy get a free opportunity attack against them? If multiple units on one side are attacking a single enemy and more than one attempts to flee does the enemy get opportunity attacks against each or is there a limit per turn?
Hi! Thanks for the great questions! Here is how I would play the two situations you asked about:
1. If a figurine is in combat it will be too preoccupied with fighting that it won’t be able to shoot at an enemy outside the combat. As such, only non-engaged figurines are able to shoot.
2. In any given movement phase where multiple opposing figurines are leaving combat, the enemy figurines are allowed only one attack of opportunity each. As such, if one suspects multiple opponents will leave, it is possible to wait to use one’s attack of opportunity for an enemy against which the attack may prove especially powerful (say, if it would be the last wound on a figurine and thereby take it out of play).
Hope this clarification helps! 😊👍
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
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These rules are great! Do you have any recommendation for shooting an enemy in cover? Maybe something like -5 to hit, or giving the defender a second (or third) d20?
Thanks so much! Great question! -5 could be a great option. Would it be too OP to give the attacker disadvantage (roll 2 d20s and take the lowest?) if the one being attacked is in cover? At long range with cover the attacked would thus get advantage to dodge and the attacker would have disadvantage to hit. Maybe?? Thanks so much for giving the rules a try and for the great feedback!! 😊👍
@@GrayArmyGaming that’s also a great idea that I didn’t consider, to give the attacker “disadvantage”! Thanks! My boys are a bit younger than your children but are already showing interest in the hobby! Thanks for your work!
@@toddweaver1390 Awesome! Have fun with your kids! Nothing beats quality time gaming with the people you love! 😊
Nice what about cover or level 2 terrain stairs and such
I have been reworking the rules the entire time I have been playing! 😊👍 For cover I give the figurine in cover +5 to their defense roll. Stairs and difficult terrain I have treated as half movement. Hope that helps!
I will soon be releasing a Basic Battles rules set for vehicular combat where I use a REALLY COOL movement mechanic. All cars are given a base movement of 10”, but anything attempted over that requires a “Loss of Control Roll”!! Super fun in my play testing!! 😊👍
@@GrayArmyGaming thanks for this reply! I play the wizard skirmish basic battle you created. It’s so much fun. However I have a range character, a wizard and one that can only attack adjacent . 3 v 3 battles to keep it short and fun.
@@bombjelly5795 Awesome!! Keep up the good gaming!! 😊👍⚔️🛡️🔥
If you use one of your figures to charge in the movement phase, do you get to do your attack then, and then again in the combat phase? Or is the attack at the end of the charge automatically the beginning of the combat phase?
Yes, the charge counts as the movement and the 2 attacks from charging are that model’s attack action for that turn. 😊👍
Do the toys need a base? What is the contact rules without a base? would it be just touching? What if it is a dinosaur with a tail sticking way out there?
Great question! In most cases without bases it is pretty clear (like with cars or LEGO guys). With dinosaurs or figurines that have long appendages we have always played that contact is measured in relation to the body. (So even if a tail sticks out 2 inches, contact is not made unless one can make it to a torso or butt.)
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
m.th-cam.com/video/G3IOr0wBdFs/w-d-xo.html
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Love the video. Couldnt find a pfd version of the rules, so I wrote them down and translated them to Dutch to play with my 9yo. He loved it. Made a 2 page pdf from them (in Dutch). I refer to the TH-cam channel as the source. Please let me know if you want it.
Hi! Thanks so much for the interest! I am hoping to finish the pdf over the Christmas break (when I finally have a bit more time!) and posting it for all of you viewers! I would still love to see what you have put together!! Awesome that your 9yo has loved the rules! My 9yo also loves them! 👍😊
@@GrayArmyGaming where can i send it to?
@@vincentbomer9313 grayarmygaming@gmail.com
@@vincentbomer9313 Thanks so much! (Btw, I love your country! I was just there two weeks ago for a wedding not too far from Lunteren. 😊)
@@GrayArmyGaming nice! 😄
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Hi, soooo... what about the pdf with rules? I'd love to have it/buy it
It is coming! 😂 This weekend I needed to dig a 60 foot trench, so I ran out of time. 🤨 I really want to get it out this fall. Maybe an early Christmas present? 😊
Thanks for your patience! 😉🙏🛡⚔️
I had this PDF higher up on my priority list, but now that this rules set is finished I should be able to get back to Basic Battles! 😊👍
drive.google.com/file/d/1stNGh1dg1Bv-JNKfZHRPyrCZrLc_DH4s/view
@@GrayArmyGaming it seems nice, anyway I'd really want to start playing with my nephew (he's 10) and found your video. It seems the right starting point... I'll wait then, but please, if you ever remember this message, come to alert me when it's ready :-)
@@vincenzogiambusso Absolutely! I will likely make a video announcing the PDF, so if you are a subscriber you should get notified. I will also go back to the comments and try to send out messages to people who have been interested. Enjoy your gaming with the 10-year-old! (My son is 9 and he loves the rules set!) 😊👍
Watching my grandsons during the school holidays age 6yr and 10yr going to give this a try with their zinger have battle space ships and figures
Awesome! Please do let me know how it goes! All the best!
@@GrayArmyGaming had a wee short game with my 6yr grandson today just a trial run he had fun playing till it was time for him to go out playing with his pals down the den they have made . Something we can play on a rainy day thanks for sharing
@@alexblue6991 Sweet! Glad you guys enjoyed it! I am going to play a game with my 9-year-old tomorrow! :) All the best to you guys in your gaming!
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
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Do you have a pdf of the rules?
Thanks so much for the visit! A rules PDF has been on my To-Do list for a few weeks now. Hopefully, when things calm down a bit with work and other commitments I will be able to get some time to produce a good document. I want to make sure that it is easy to follow and makes sense. So, short answer: not yet, but hopefully in the coming weeks! Thanks for stopping by!
@@GrayArmyGaming when you get it tone contact me I would love to do this game with my nephew and nieces. 😃
@@26snoopy82 I will definitely keep you in mind! When I finish the document I can make an announcement video. All the best!
I’d love to have a PDF of the rules set as well. I’ve played two games with my 9 y/o using my old DND figures. We’ve played using V1 and V2 of the rules. He had a blast, tho to make it more fluid and fast paced we combined out move and combat phase and did it per figurine. So each figure got to move and combat, then the next, and so on. I found my kid got bored (blame it on electronics, lol) when going through a phase of movement and waiting for combat.
Overall, great opportunity for some father son bonding, so many thanks. Here from Texas.
@@stephenchavez5225 Thanks so much for the feedback! I have actually been playing around with alternative activation (one figure at a time) in order to keep the gameplay even more engaging. I will be releasing a video soon where I try it out. It might be a good change for the next update! I am really hoping to get a PDF done soon. Hopefully things will slow down a bit more with my job now that we are heading towards the summer. I will definitely keep you posted. All the best to you guys over there in Texas! 👍😊
It's aimed at children but how many adults would enjoy it also?
I have actually found that adults have enjoyed it the most! 😊👍 Especially the fast-paced and action-packed “Super Small Skirmishes”! Check out the free rules here: drive.google.com/file/u/1/d/1qoqhJICXzVcbBPErb_WTPT9XKige91UH/view?usp=sharing
Gonna try this with my wife.
Have fun! Here is the link to the rules if you need them: drive.google.com/file/d/1qoqhJICXzVcbBPErb_WTPT9XKige91UH/view
I can really recommend the Super Small Skirmishes section for beginners. I played this past weekend with a friend who has never played tabletop games before, and he got it immediately and had a great time.
Why d 20 for combat and not d12 or d6?
Thanks for the question. The d20 allows for the fun mechanic of critical hits on 20s and critical misses on 1s (5% chance for each). If the same mechanic were used on a d12 or d6 the critical roles would be much more common and thereby less spectacular and special. The d20 seems to get the right balance of something extra interesting happening 10% of the time.
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
m.th-cam.com/video/G3IOr0wBdFs/w-d-xo.html
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The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
m.th-cam.com/video/G3IOr0wBdFs/w-d-xo.html
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Can you play this with one piece per team
Absolutely! Like an arena-style death match! I would recommend playing on a small space with maybe 3 wounds. FANTASTIC IDEA! If it is OK with you I would LOVE to try out your idea in an upcoming video! COOL!!!
@@GrayArmyGaming of course, and could you use dinosaurs for the demonstration?
@@tguest37 I could make that work!
PDF is coming in 2023 ?
I am going to try as hard as pinto get it to you all as soon as possible! 😊👍
The PDF of the full rules will be posted soon! 🥳 Stay tuned! 😊👍
The PDF Rules Sheet is finally here! Feel free to visit this video to find the link to the document:
m.th-cam.com/video/G3IOr0wBdFs/w-d-xo.html
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