I am very very impressed at the knowledge and process of this bike fit and would love to have one myself, however, whilst it is said that its a well spent $450ish Aussie dollars, you then have new shoes, new stem, new saddle and new handlebars and all of a sudden you've spent over $1000 on a bike fit. I have no doubt that this method of bike fitting is amazing and gives you the most comfortable, efficient and safest position on the bike, but it really is a pricey undertaking, and I dare say if you were unwilling to change many parts, the bike fitting fee is then wasted money.
That's one thing I would love to do, get a professional bike fit, just to see how close I have my bike set up. I am not suffering from any pains or discomforts, just a bit of numbness in my fingers on textured/buzzy roads. About your friend being late at the beginning, we all have one of those friends. 99% of the time they're single, no kids, and self-employed, no one to answer to but themselves.
Nice vlog as always, but especially enjoyed the bike fit portion, in particular the description of the fitting process and the changes made including the whys ... I'm particularly interested as it is something I am planing to do soon, just making the final decision on who to go to for the fit. Timely for me, thank you for including Amy's fit as a portion of one of your vlogs. Hope Amy enjoys and benefits from the changes to her position on the bike.
Thank you for this video Francis. I switched out my saddle a month ago and have been experiencing lower back pain. I think I may need to move it up a little.
Fascinating vid! I've always wanted a professional bike fit, yet they aren't done so well down here in the South West (proper South West, not Bristol etc). There are a couple of places which do them, but seem to be more "systems" like the guy was talking about. Still, we'll see. What's also interesting to note is saddle fit and sit bones. I recently found out that my current saddle was way too narrow, and has been the reason for my severe discomfort (especially on sportives!). Annoyingly, I always thought discomfort was normal. Luckily there is a budget way to check this by using cardboard and chalk, and I've been using a wonderful Specialized Power Expert saddle from Sigma for the last couple of weeks and it's been an absolute dream! The 155mm width is perfect for me.
I went into my local shop thinking a bike fit was free lol. Was like 300 dollars plus any parts they want you to swap. I'll trust my rushed home fitting for now.
Just started watching your videos and so far this is the best one yet, but the rest very good to. Some of the road action is very well done and looks like you all have great fun riding together.
Lawrence should check to make sure he didn't sprain his neck yesterday! :P As for bike fit, I was haing super bad back pains and moved my cleat 1mm and now I'm a new man..bike fit is real . They dont have a sigma in San Fran..well i need a bike box and some plane tickets!
Lol I'm from Kingston haha, going to get into cycling soon after my exams are over so I'll most likely get my first proper bike from either Sigma or Evans. Great vid btw!
About the arch support thing. For me my mtb shoes were really flat and uncomfortable after a 3hr ride. For some reason I had to get inserts because my foot collapsed while doing other stuff. But also, with the inserts my MTB shoes also became super super comfy. So it really is a thing.
BIGD_OTheVegan I've known my bike has been too long for me for a while, that's the problem with being short. Didn't realise how uncomfortable it was until I'd had the fit done, if that makes sense, so it's definitely been worth doing!
I would have totally put a shorter stem on to shorten the reach, which would have been even more wrong, so good to have someone who knows what they're doing set it up!
right, yeah, a lot of small riders struggle with fit... hard to find frames that really suit you... People that are 5'0" to 5'5" kind of have to play around with the fit... Great that he sorted you all out though.
BIGD_OTheVegan not necessarily wrong but the combination of changes we've made through the bike fit have been better overall than just a quick fix like that I guess! Its one of many solutions, just need to keep trying to find the right one. And yeah, in hindsight I probably wouldn't have bought that cannondale. As much as I love it, I bought it because I'd been trying to find something for 3 months and I desperately needed one. I've always known that it was a bit too long for me as it was. Finding small frames second hand is too hard!
Great video! I'm thinking of getting a bike fit myself, but I'm a afraid it will cost me too much! 250 for a bike fit + all the changes, like in this video; new shoes, narrower handlebar,...that's like an extra £300-£500?
Old video but I'll chime in... "RETUL" is absolute garbage. James "preordained" comment is spot on. My wife had a RETUL fit and it could not have been more wrong. Whilst on a ride, I noticed she was tremendously toe down at the bottom of her pedal stroke. I made her jump off, and I slammed her seat post, so her heal was comfortably touching the pedal at the bottom of a stroke. I also had to flip her stem upside down, it had max rise. Consequently she was complaining of wrist pain, shoulder pain and elbow pain. Now she's a little more stretched out, less bunched up on the bike, and not straining her ankles just to pedal. So much for "RETUL"...
Owen Beddis couldn't say in total, it would depend on what action you decide, for example if you would pick to buy any of the products they try out or not. Sigma start from £250 though, and that's including getting to play around with pressure mapping and state of the art equipment, a ridiculous inventory of products to play with (without having to spend the money on them first, which is awesome), plus the advice of an expert of 20+ years in the business for 3+ hrs so well worth it in my opinion! Obviously other places will probably vary though.
Why not get one of those SMP saddles for your bike like you use to ride. I use one and will probably never use any other make and model. Selle SMP composite. Now on my second one.
That's what I can never seem to work out with a bike fit. If you can move back and forward on a saddle say 10cm then why do they worry about adjusting your position during a bike fit to the nearest 1cm. just move around a bit till you feel comfortable.
nope, maybe something to think about. Any brands included in these vids are just "you scratch my back..." deals. (Like attacus helping when I had no kit to wear!)
Are those first guys camera shy or just really boring? No offence but it really seemed like you were trying to squeeze water from a stone here Francis haha.
Steve Clyne I wasn't convinced until I had one. Didn't even realise how uncomfortable I was and it turns out the obvious "solutions" that I and Francis would have probably made weren't the right ones. Its all just advice (albeit the advice of an expert) at the end of the day, you don't have any obligation to take it or even buy anything. It's about a lot more than just setting up your bike, it's about the way your body works on and off the bike too.
"With system fits, the outcome is preordained. It's not about the individual." So true!
I am very very impressed at the knowledge and process of this bike fit and would love to have one myself, however, whilst it is said that its a well spent $450ish Aussie dollars, you then have new shoes, new stem, new saddle and new handlebars and all of a sudden you've spent over $1000 on a bike fit. I have no doubt that this method of bike fitting is amazing and gives you the most comfortable, efficient and safest position on the bike, but it really is a pricey undertaking, and I dare say if you were unwilling to change many parts, the bike fitting fee is then wasted money.
That was an informative video. I think I need to get a proper bike fit. The gentleman doing Amy's fit seemed very good. Awesome video!
+Todd Tucker he was indeed! Thanks for watching Todd
That's one thing I would love to do, get a professional bike fit, just to see how close I have my bike set up. I am not suffering from any pains or discomforts, just a bit of numbness in my fingers on textured/buzzy roads. About your friend being late at the beginning, we all have one of those friends. 99% of the time they're single, no kids, and self-employed, no one to answer to but themselves.
+John Day that is literally Lawrence in a nutshell!
Nice vlog as always, but especially enjoyed the bike fit portion, in particular the description of the fitting process and the changes made including the whys ... I'm particularly interested as it is something I am planing to do soon, just making the final decision on who to go to for the fit.
Timely for me, thank you for including Amy's fit as a portion of one of your vlogs. Hope Amy enjoys and benefits from the changes to her position on the bike.
+Matthew Oly WA Thanks! That website in the video is defo worth a check. James is very good, I'm going to him on Monday for a fit.
most interesting vlog so far - no offence
was actually thinking the same. I've been in need of a bike fit, problem is i dont think any of our local shops are that detailed but maybe they are.
2:31, we know why he was distracted.
I was distracted
nice save in the end, naah just stretching me neck....
:p
by the fat girl?
flat chested
The best opening and closing to any Volg. Chapeau
thanks Stu!
Wow, that's the most amazing bike fit I've ever witnessed! And I myself had 2 already, none of which came close to be that detailed. Amazing
+Art King yeah it was thorough! Thanks for watching Art.
Francis Cade Thanks for posting!
what happens if you crash and your variables get knocked out of place? do you have to pay for another one?
Patrick Croysdale all your data is saved and a copy is sent to you so you'd be able to replicate it if that's what you mean?
Amy Boulert you crash and your seatpost breaks?
Thank you for this video Francis. I switched out my saddle a month ago and have been experiencing lower back pain. I think I may need to move it up a little.
+Kevin Dickerson thanks Kevin!
I think I have a crush on Lucy. She seems like a lovely person
Fascinating vid! I've always wanted a professional bike fit, yet they
aren't done so well down here in the South West (proper South West, not
Bristol etc). There are a couple of places which do them, but seem to be
more "systems" like the guy was talking about. Still, we'll see.
What's also interesting to note is saddle fit and sit bones. I recently
found out that my current saddle was way too narrow, and has been the
reason for my severe discomfort (especially on sportives!). Annoyingly, I
always thought discomfort was normal. Luckily there is a budget way to
check this by using cardboard and chalk, and I've been using a wonderful
Specialized Power Expert saddle from Sigma for the last couple of weeks
and it's been an absolute dream! The 155mm width is perfect for me.
+Matt Swain glad you found a solution! I gotta change my saddle too.
Thanks man. And get on it! The undercarriage will thank you if the current one isn't on point, as I'm sure you'll know! :D
Cool video for Amy!! I know you have covered the bike fit a little before this one, but it defiantly was a good one to see!! Hope you get some rest!!
+Mike Aparicio yeah, bit more in depth than me! Cheers Mike!
Lawrence met his soulmate in the start it seems..... Nice informative video, gave me some ideas with my own setup
+samuli hirsi that was also Lawrence. If they touched each other... Time paradox.
Just came across your videos...you create the best picture so far on the cycling vlogs on TH-cam!
+Evol M3 thanks so much!
just playing catch up on your channel,love it captain ,hope you got a holiday planned again
I went into my local shop thinking a bike fit was free lol. Was like 300 dollars plus any parts they want you to swap. I'll trust my rushed home fitting for now.
First cameo from James and the bike fit environment!
Just started watching your videos and so far this is the best one yet, but the rest very good to. Some of the road action is very well done and looks like you all have great fun riding together.
+CRAIG HENRY if you like this one, you're in for a treat over the next 2 days!
Look forward to seeing them.
Another awesome vid………Frankly I’m not surprised 👊🏾. As you may have surmised I’m slowly working my way through the back catalogue.
Thanks Paul!
The bike fit stuff is really cool to see coming from a place that doesn't really think it's important.
Lawrence should check to make sure he didn't sprain his neck yesterday! :P
As for bike fit, I was haing super bad back pains and moved my cleat 1mm and now I'm a new man..bike fit is real .
They dont have a sigma in San Fran..well i need a bike box and some plane tickets!
We had a riding buddy who was always late too. We just started telling him we were meeting 30 mins prior to the actual ride time, and it kinda worked!
+samaway we'll do this to Lawrence
But he'll catch on to it and be an hour late, no?
pepesoulful then we increase it to 2 hours.
Genius! He won't suspect a thing!
Now I need a bike fit 😔. Thanks for sharing.
some big gains to be had from a bike fit... enjoy amy and great vid as always.
Persuaded me to get a proper fit done! Great video.
Good vlog! First time viewer. Subscribed.
Ohhhh cake rides... almost forgot about them. Good old times.
Lol I'm from Kingston haha, going to get into cycling soon after my exams are over so I'll most likely get my first proper bike from either Sigma or Evans. Great vid btw!
Ouch! Those two shops shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence ;-)
Best content on TH-cam imo, always look forward to it
+Ashley Towey thanks so much Ashley!
Good job, Amy.. you'll be so much more comfortable and efficient 👍
her scapula is now perfectly aligned.
That's what I meant :)
About the arch support thing.
For me my mtb shoes were really flat and uncomfortable after a 3hr ride.
For some reason I had to get inserts because my foot collapsed while doing other stuff.
But also, with the inserts my MTB shoes also became super super comfy.
So it really is a thing.
Great as always Franny ❤️
+Lawrence Carpenter
Disc brakes rule!
Hands up who now wants a bike fit like THAT! How much would that cost?
Tommy starts from £250 I believe, I'll ask Lucy!
Amy Boulert I don't know anywhere else that offers such a comprehensive service! Next bike, a trip down there would be incredible!
Tommy before you even buy the bike would be better!
Is this the first appearance of bike fit james???????
that's great that Amy got a fit! Much more important than many cyclists know... was she uncomfortable on the bike or did she just fancy one?
BIGD_OTheVegan I've known my bike has been too long for me for a while, that's the problem with being short. Didn't realise how uncomfortable it was until I'd had the fit done, if that makes sense, so it's definitely been worth doing!
I would have totally put a shorter stem on to shorten the reach, which would have been even more wrong, so good to have someone who knows what they're doing set it up!
right, yeah, a lot of small riders struggle with fit... hard to find frames that really suit you... People that are 5'0" to 5'5" kind of have to play around with the fit... Great that he sorted you all out though.
he said that would have been wrong? Why? lol
BIGD_OTheVegan not necessarily wrong but the combination of changes we've made through the bike fit have been better overall than just a quick fix like that I guess! Its one of many solutions, just need to keep trying to find the right one. And yeah, in hindsight I probably wouldn't have bought that cannondale. As much as I love it, I bought it because I'd been trying to find something for 3 months and I desperately needed one. I've always known that it was a bit too long for me as it was. Finding small frames second hand is too hard!
The Master at work. 😀👍
Have to give a 2nd look cause I thought your one of the Yates brothers :) Cool videos keep em' coming.
+Erwin Patawaran hahaha, get it all the time!
That was an excellent bike fit info session.
Great video! You guys have the best kits!
Recently switched to a Selle SMP saddle and WOW it is so comfortable.
Howard Petrie tempted, that or specialized romin!
where did you get that lemarq Jersey? can't find any of these more Basic lemarq Jerseys online
soon on the HotChillee online store, keep an eye on it.
nice, thanks for Lettin me know!
Man that dude knows his stuff!
Great video!
I'm thinking of getting a bike fit myself, but I'm a afraid it will cost me too much!
250 for a bike fit + all the changes, like in this video; new shoes, narrower handlebar,...that's like an extra £300-£500?
I love disc brakes because they are much easier even on mountain bikes and road bikes
Borrowed SMPs are the best ones.
Francis was that you playing that Hendrix song? Great vid by the way
+stephen fernald yeah! Thanks Stephen!
Great piece, keep them coming!! :)
+Catriona Forrest thanks so much!
Where did you get your glasses from, Francis?
My experience with disk breaks is that they’re always wonky, a pain in the arse if they go wrong and don’t bloody work in the rain.
This.
Francis Cade yes.
Old video but I'll chime in... "RETUL" is absolute garbage. James "preordained" comment is spot on. My wife had a RETUL fit and it could not have been more wrong. Whilst on a ride, I noticed she was tremendously toe down at the bottom of her pedal stroke. I made her jump off, and I slammed her seat post, so her heal was comfortably touching the pedal at the bottom of a stroke. I also had to flip her stem upside down, it had max rise. Consequently she was complaining of wrist pain, shoulder pain and elbow pain. Now she's a little more stretched out, less bunched up on the bike, and not straining her ankles just to pedal. So much for "RETUL"...
It's just a clever tape measure, the fitter has to be good for it to work!
how's the colour grading done for these videos? is it a lut or custom curves?? really nice either way 👌
+Will Clough bit of both! Base is m31 by osiris, but I've changed it pretty drastically
Francis Cade ahh cool thanks a lot
Brilliant video, how much did the bike fit cost in total? Thinking about doing one myself :-)
Owen Beddis couldn't say in total, it would depend on what action you decide, for example if you would pick to buy any of the products they try out or not. Sigma start from £250 though, and that's including getting to play around with pressure mapping and state of the art equipment, a ridiculous inventory of products to play with (without having to spend the money on them first, which is awesome), plus the advice of an expert of 20+ years in the business for 3+ hrs so well worth it in my opinion! Obviously other places will probably vary though.
Sounds good. Thanks for the reply! Perhaps a 21st birthday present request then :-)
Why not get one of those SMP saddles for your bike like you use to ride. I use one and will probably never use any other make and model. Selle SMP composite. Now on my second one.
+Alan Parkinson I used to have one. Prefer to be able to move slightly more. Specialized romin is a good compromise!
That's what I can never seem to work out with a bike fit. If you can move back and forward on a saddle say 10cm then why do they worry about adjusting your position during a bike fit to the nearest 1cm. just move around a bit till you feel comfortable.
that bike fit was the best I've ever seen......my bike fit was a sub level fit compared to that hmmmmjealous just goes to show the details nice🤗
+Mike Kallen better get down to sigma ;)
Can you tell me where this bike fit was carried out please ?
+snid 7 sigma sport Hampton wick
I feel like i watched a hero origin story here
I need a bike fit & a decent pair of shoes.
0:11 thought that was andré greipel for a second there
That bike fit looks thorough af. Also Lawrence is a dude.... albeit a late one!
even I was tired after!
hah. impressed with it tho. haven't had one so will probably get one done here
Get a Mavic Pro, better than the Spark and folds almost as small.
Francis what was the result of the petition for this cafe? Loads signed if I believe
+Ian Lang I didn't think to ask. They're still there, so that's good!
twitter.com/cinnamonwindsor/status/859941972982804480 (it's been saved!)
Charlie Woodall Thanks for that mate!! Good news!
Amy once opened the door Cafe Giro once, I don't see her in your videos, tel !e to !old !y own busimess, but are you two still together buddy?
much approved. very much
+An Post CRC much
Great video Cade. Nice inside on bike fit.
Great vid as usual
+Steve Rooney thanks Steve!
Good video! Native marketing? Just asking as I'm interested in the concept in general..
Ashley Barrett Nope, just needed a bike fit and Francis doesn't go anywhere without his camera!
OKay, nice one. If you guys don't have some sort of reciprocal agreement with Sigma then you should organise one...
nope, maybe something to think about. Any brands included in these vids are just "you scratch my back..." deals. (Like attacus helping when I had no kit to wear!)
An avenue to explore! Well, either way - keep up the great work. I'll look out for you in RP
What's George's bike?
+Jonathan Ratcliffe I think it's just a standard specialized tarmac
Thanks mate. Love the vids
Bolide, French for meteor or slang for very fast car / vehicle, = Bol - eed
So how much does all this cost?
Paul Williams £250, 3 hours long.
mate how much did that fit cost?
+Aaron Paterson at sigma they start from £250, a few different options!
Why is this video so dark?
Fox terrier 😍😍😍
+High Carb Rider Lawrence!
Francis Cade is he on instagram?
High Carb Rider @bikerlawrence 👍🏻
Maby i will take a Look for a bike fit !!!! But First i Must Save Money.
i love your videos its high quality and the colors good , but i expect more riding than talking.
Amy's Instagram?
Discbrakes are better in every way than maybe weight, and who cares about 50 or 100 gramms, you wouldnt even notice it.
nice video 😊
Are those first guys camera shy or just really boring? No offence but it really seemed like you were trying to squeeze water from a stone here Francis haha.
+Patrick Croysdale I think we were tired after smashing it to Windsor!
Colnago Master at 5:30
Good job :-) time for some new shoes then :-D
Stephen Niblett picking them up on Wednesday 😝
Sub 6?
Stephen Niblett just 6. No laces.
2:30 just stretching the neck? haha
+Cool Dog ;)
First ;)
Lucy Mannall full credit for the title too!
bike fit babes.
Eager to admire yourself ;)
This guy talks a lot without saying/explaining much.
What a bunch of snake oil!
Your shirt is too big
quelle horreur ces anneaux dans le nez,je coupe.
this bike fitting thing is just marketing and hype anybody should be able to set up there own bike
Steve Clyne not true!
Steve Clyne I wasn't convinced until I had one. Didn't even realise how uncomfortable I was and it turns out the obvious "solutions" that I and Francis would have probably made weren't the right ones. Its all just advice (albeit the advice of an expert) at the end of the day, you don't have any obligation to take it or even buy anything. It's about a lot more than just setting up your bike, it's about the way your body works on and off the bike too.