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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ม.ค. 2021
- One of the the most luxury parts to my camper van, my Truma D6E Diesel and Electric air and water heater. So excited fit this into my van I am sure it will be worth it for hot showers and app controlled heating.
Australian Fitting Manual for Truma D6E:
www.manualslib.com/manual/124...
I bought my Truma from Jackson Leisure.
Fuel Sender Pipe (affiliate link):
ebay.us/UzEnNG
If I have forgotten something you would like to know let me know and I will update the info
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This in the winter must be so nice 😍
Nice one Hugh you got style I’ll give you that 👍🔥🔥
great video
Interesting to see how similar and how different this is to installing the gas version. Was surprised to see you had the inner tube to the cowl very short. On the gas one it must be longer, and this makes fitting a pain.
Thanks for posting.
Tabs on sender unit are too small for my fingers.lol As to the Truma, I think its too big for a van. Maybe a Luton, but it is really for a coach built IMHO. I did look at these when I was doing my build and was put off by the size and when I saw your hand against it for comparison, it really is a big setup. Very informative video.👍
Fair point Carl! Yeah it is a larger single unit but for what it provides it is compact. that said a diesel air heater and a pump up shower that you can fill with hot water off the hob is much much cheaper and compact
Top job Hugh, debating one of these in my next van build so looking forward to the test and you thoughts on the system as a whole 👍
More great content and information.... impressive system should serve you well 😎👍✅
Cheers Andrew!
It was a big outlay but it might work out cheaper in the long run burning diesel instead of gas.
I hope so but even if not it’s much simpler for me on the road
Awesome video 👍 would love to see how loud it is when you do a video on how it works
Will do for sure will do an intensive first use video
With lpg dissapearing fast, this is a great long term investment
If that's the case, what's do you think is to be the best alternative for cooking? I ought to decide if I really just need a hob or grill/oven as well
As an alternative to gas cooking both diesel jobs and induction jobs are both feasible nowadays in a van with the improved batteries out there but the major issue is cost at the moment. They really need to bring down the price of both alternatives
@@TheVanderfulLife I'd go induction hob but you'd need a lithium battery in order to be able to do it, run it around 800w will cook most things in a few minutes, stir fry, I'd go small microwave too, heating up beans
I don't suppose I will ever install one but if I do this will be very useful, I did see one guy suspend his pump using elastic which killed the noise, personally I don't mind it . 👍👍
Cheers matey! Yeah heard of other people using string as well!
Curious also,is this pump a silent one due to very high price? Planar UK sells them 100pounds I think? Great install!
I will let you know soon in a vid, I am having to get my whole water system running just to test the Truma so will hopefully find out soon
Excellent video, super detailed. But really makes me not wanting to buy this product. My god it's complicated to install. I've seen other solutions like tap into the coolant lines + electric heating that look way easier to install and arguably cheaper.
Hey Rodrigo, thanks so much, glad I could help
Greta build! Followed this install with great interest. I was wondering if these would have a silent pump unlike the Chinese units. It looks like a piston pump and there fore a "knocker". Just wondering if you'l regret mounting it on that bulkhead? If you get 2 meters grace from tank to pump and 6m from pump to burner then I would mount that pump up (loosely zip tied to one of the engines rubber pipes) in the engine compartment as far away from the living space as possible so the chance of hearing it is less? What do you think?:)
I am sure it is also a ‘knocker’ but I am pretty confident I won’t hear it all in the living space. It’s basically soft mounted and in a rubber anti vibration bracket
@@HughTube ok well good luck hope your right. I know that ticking can drive some people nuts when they are trying to get to sleep!;)
Good video Hugh, very clear and informative. I've just ordered the D4E Truma. Should be a lot easier now to install having watched your attempt. 👍
All this effort just to install a toilet poop incinerator ... lol :D .. just to warm your water / butt.. :D A few questions,
(1) did you need to install the fuel feed into the tank ? you couldn't just piggy back the fuel line ?
(2) Shouldn't you have cleaned the fuel tank entry point before opening it ? (vacuum & wipe down)
(3) You can always easily extend the exhaust pipe away from the air intake.
The unit looks top end / professional, hope it works well.
Hey Remus, so to answer your Q’s
I was always told that if you piggyback off your vans engine diesel line you can cause supply issues for the engine.
I did give the top a quick Hoover but the grime needed a scrubbing off. I didn’t leave and particles that could fall into the tank but yes I could have definitely cleaned it some more.
About extending the exhaust, you can buy lengths up to about a metre so you could span a decent distance
Hi pal only me again, no pressure reducer is required as you’ll be using a low pressure water pump. Normally around 12psi max. You’ll be fine. Great video. Are you using a submersible pump or mounted pump either whale or flojet.
Cheers Rob, was wondering about this as it said max pressure of 2.8bar and my whale auto pressure pump is up to 2 bar so that’s good to know
that was not very truma tic, ha ha ha, good effort,
What is the cable thickness for negative/pozitive 12v? I see you used single red and single black cables. Can you please tell me the thickness, size?
Did yours come with a manual??? I can’t find any installation instructions on the website
What diameter (external and internal) fuel hose did you use, mine didn't come with any, thanks for a great video!
Great video, thanks for sharing. Just about to start my own conversion and need to decide how to heat van and water.
Hi Hugh
Great job mate, I'm part way into fitting the same unit.
I've realised that there is no Room Sensor Cable included in this very expensive unit
Please could you let me know where you got yours from
Jonny
Hi Hugh just wondering what size cable did you use to connect to 12v system?
What do you know about the Lock Washer and Lock Washer Tool that the installation guide mentions that you need if you intend to cut/shorten the exhaust and air intake pipes of the D6E? I have not seen anyone on TH-cam mention this. The tool costs £122.50 from Leisure Spares with the washer at £7.98, postage on top. I imagine warranty is void if this is not carried out correctly so I am considering buying the 'single use tool' lol.
Hugh Tube - what size fuel line did you use? Where did you purchase this?
Thanks a lot for this perfect explanations.
Great video thank you! Other than the inet connection, what cable does the wall mounted controller need? Thanks
Great video very well explained thank you
thanks you so much for the video, although is difficult to find one of these in US these days, I really want to go full diesel and not propane (for safely and using 1 fuel)
I was lost on why you installed the pump in the front and then realized that you van has the tank on the front hahaha
THANKS!
Verry good shown 👍👌 thanks
Watched your video about 50 times mate, today is the day of the install ! Thank you so much for this perfect tutorial.
Hope to meet you on the road someday. Cheers
Bruno from France
Hola. usted pudo hacer funcionar solo con batería? sin la utilizacion de la red electrica? si es asi cuanto tiempo pudo hacer funcionar? digo porque tengo uno similar pero con una bateria de 200 A. no me aguanta la carga mas de una hora de uso. gracias
What’s going above this?
Do you think it would be ok to install this under the sink in that cabinet?
Great videa, thanks. Is it also possible to run the truma only through the inverter in the van? Or do you always need an external 230V plug?
What diameter is your duct for your truma
great vid mate always full of info
looking great
Hi Hugh do you how to put vents on side of the van not through the floor cheers.
Nice job done. Fantastic detailing video.👍
I seen a video of a guy that just drilled a hole through the top of the breather pipe. A lot easier I think and I'm going to go that way.
Hi really enjoyed your video I am looking at buying the same heater for my Citroen L3H3 which will be fully electric with no hook up. Can I ask two questions, have you run the water heat at 900W through your inverter yet and if so what was the result? The second question is as this is a 6kw model of heater do you think it is the right size for the van space or would a 4kw be better suited? Any advice or thoughts on this would be appreciated, thank you
Hello There !
Thanks for the great video, Im about to install the same product in my van , and im glad some one spends time to explain other people how it works !
I have a questions , if you could help to answer.
Im in a brainstorm to buy a water pump, as far i know the truma heater works with a pressure max of 2.8 bar, if i have a pump more powerfull on bars , do i need to put a pressure reducer valve before truma ?
Thank you for your time,
All the best
Alex
Wait muffs have teeth and I should be careful how much pipe I insert. Got it thanks 👌
Great video!
Hey Hugh big fan of the channel.
I've got one of these on order and trying to work out the cable size to run for the D6E. In the manual it says max power consumption 7.8A, so I've ran some 2.5mm2, 29amp rated twin core, although someone else online suggested I would need much thicker cable (6mm)
Yours does look thicker than mine so any advice would be great.
Hi Hugh - Do you have the information of the fuel pump you purchased? Thanks
sorry no info as it came with the kit
Thanks very very very much!
You’re just brilliant at explaining, I reckon you should teach workshops. You’re giving me the confidence to actually install this myself - and you have such a calming, soothing voice! 🤗
I have a few questions if I may? The perfect placement for me would be under my sink cabinet, and I see your water pipes mounted right behind it... I guess the Truma is designed to handle getting wet in case of a leak? Or can it be protected somehow?
I’m planning two faucets with hot water: one directly above for the kitchen sink, and through the wall to the shower cubicle directly beside the kitchen (so very minimal piping.) The thing is, I want to fit two separate water tanks, one for the kitchen sink, and another one for a recirculating shower system. Can the Truma send, and especially receive, the water from/to 2 separate tank systems? I hope I explain this well, my plan is kind of clear in my head 🤔🙃
🙏 thank you! Found you searching for Truma infos, and instant sub. Now Imma going to binge watch all the videos! 🙃🚐🗺
Thanks so much! Ok so you don’t want water dripping on it but if mounted under the sink then I would add a piece of plywood as a type of shelf between the sink and heater so any drips land on that rather than the Truma (and check regularly for drips).
I see what you are trying to say about the duel tank setup but if you try to recirculate the water from the shower into the Truma it will probably break the Truma as soap etc will get in there and it will also contaminate the water to the kitchen tap.
I was first planning to use the Truma on propane for heating and water (shower) but propane is expensive (it's more expensive than diesel) but I wanted to have cooking and heating and warm water to all run on the same thing. But the price puts me off so I considered the LPG Truma version (whilst also cooking with LPG) but the disadvantage with that is you run into problems if it starts freezing outside. LPG won't vaporize anymore and you can't use it anymore. Diesel seems the lesser of the problems. You can have the Truma installed and connect it to the tank of the van, the price of diesel is in between LPG (which is a hell of a lot cheaper, a third of diesel and 5 times cheaper than propane). It's by far the easiest to fill up because you just need to fill up the tank of your van. Disadvantage of diesel Truma is of course as you mentioned it's a more expensive heater, also it's a bit more noisier in its operation, needs servicing after I think 2 years and also requires more amps on start up than the regular gas versions.
Hi Hugh love your videos... have you had or know anyone whos had experience with the Chinese version of this Truma from JP heaters they are £900 shipped to the UK? Just thought I would ask as other peeps are having good results with the other Chinese type deisel heaters on the market...
Hi loverly video. Looks ace.
May I ask how many amps does it draw from your batterys on start up. ?
And can I ask is there a second video of it working to watch
And may I ask
Are you happy with everything about it after using it
Forever best wishes
To you and all.
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Hi Boo, I will do an update video very soon! I am happy with it for sure! Having an issue with the inet box though which I will talk about!
@@HughTube
Hi thank you for the reply.
Best wishes of safe travels
To you and all
Thanks for sharing this, going to be very helpful when we fit one in our van soon! Thanks again Hugh!!
Have you noticed tiny small bubbles flowing in the fuel line after the pump into the burner unit? Does the fan run at a constant RPM? What is your plan schedule for burning off the soot and other residues?
I have the same unit. I have the tiny bubbles. My fan - in eco mode - doesn't always run at a constant RPM, sometimes there's a recurring slight variation to it which causes the same variation in the sound of the air flow, kinda annoying. I don't run it at max too often for the residue burn off, probably I should.
I have had all kinds of problems with my unit. At one point the entire thing just stopped working and Truma couldn't figure out what was wrong with it, so they replaced the Eberspacher unit inside. Just recently I had bigger-than-ever fan variations at the same time it was squirting out water and giving me a "W 151 H" warning code every morning. Turned out not only was the connections not holding the water correctly, two temperature sensors inside was faulty.
Hi Martin,
I don't have a lot of bubbles but bubbles can occur, the fan changes RPM depending on whether you choose high flow rate on the control unit and also as it starts up the rate changes a bit and it will also change during use.
Every month of decent use I will aim to run it on full/ maxed out for about 30 minutes to clean out the soot.
Sounds like you got a dodgy unit there, which is a shame but hopefully as Truma is a well rated company they will hopefully help
@@HughTube I did get a dodgy unit that's for sure. Truma has been semi-helpful. I know the fan change RPM over time of course, but not bouncing back and forth every other second. I made a video, it can even be seen in the video how the fan changes RPM constantly. Not that the fan itself is a problem, but the constant change of the sound of the air flow is quite disturbing lol. Please watch the video and let me know if this is what you observe on your machine as well. Please note that this usually doesn't happen right away, but after a few hours of runtime or so. And then after this starts I usually get a "W 151 H" warning code too, indicating the water is too hot, then it turns up the fan max to "cool down". Only problem is I have measure the water temperature and it's 70 degrees Celsius sharp, i.e. not too warm according to the Truma manual. 70 is exactly what to expect after a long runtime.
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I have a complaint Hugh 🙄, I am just about to start my van conversion and was 99.99% set on the COMBI 4E. Now I am second guessing that after you have convinced me to look at the diesel version. It would make the gas install for just the hob much smaller, easier and cheaper which in turn would offset the extra cost of the boiler. Great video. Hhmmm, decisions decisions....
haha sorry Nigel good luck with your decision
I’ve had a Truma D4 for 5 years. Superb kit. I think all air IN comes from inside the van at the heater. Be cautious if you have a side window above the exhaust grille, for obvious reasons. I periodically get white smoke at start which is solved by running hard for an hour to clean of soot. The pump is noisy. I think you may end up putting outside but interested to hear how you get on.
I also just bought a Truma D6E from Jackson Leisure. The only thing I think was missed from the video was the 240v line from the Truma, which would usually be wired into the mains hookup of a camper van. The boiler needs 12v to run it's own electronics, the pump and the fan, but 240v to run it's inbuilt electric element.
If anyone's interested in these and doesn't particularly want the 240v electric heater bit, the standard D6 model omits that and is a few hundred pounds cheaper.
I second this question! Great video Hugh - Can I ask what thickness those cables are for the spade connectors?
Hi Huigh
Great video on the Truma D6E boiler can you advise where I can get my hands on one of these they look fantastic.
Many thanks
I got mine from jackson leisure
Nice one H 👍 brave old job to take on. Well done
i have the truma 4e to install next week - can t wait lol
Hi Hugh,
Great video, really useful as I'm about to fit my 6d. What fuel line did you use please?
Many thanks,
Mark Ferb
The kit came with fuel line, it is 2mm nylon pipe
Thankyou. Mine didn't!! 😠 I thank you so much for your video as it's been so helpful. 👍 I've been nervous about fitting it but all confident now. Especially with fitting the fuel line.
Brilliant Hugh, could you take a feed pipe off it to run Wallis duo,I don't won't to carry gas and like the thought of everything running off fuel tank . Thanks
Hi Peter, I don't want to give you bad information here so I will come clean and say that off the top of my head I don't know but if you were to split the line from the feed off the tank I would make the split just after the filter but before the pump
Fantastic job mate, so very well detailed and explained. I can’t wait to see how well it works 👍🏻
cheers to you both, hope you're well!
Well you've done an excellent job with the video, there is a lot to do with that install by the look of things. My top tip is to put a tiny smear of silicon grease on the pipes for those push fit fittings, this should reduce the chance of damaging the O ring on assembly, I also rounded the end of the tubing slightly. I replaced a lot of the water pipe on my van and this made a lot of difference, the grease won't get into the water as it is on the outside of the plastic tubing. There has been no leaks almost a year later.
cheers bud!
Do you know what what purpose the small metal (so presumably quite hot?) flexi serves, and why is there electronics in the cowl? My LPG heater smells "hot" when just heating water. I was wondering if this is the solution?
The small one is apparently an air intake so shouldn't get hot, i dont know why there is a circuit board in the cowl but there is a fan so maybe it has some sensors to check air temp and regulate air flow
Thanks for sharing this, I have also been thinking about one of these to replace my LPG Truma, but it is not an easy swap. Not just the flue but I gather the control wiring is different (although the controller looks the same?) Also it is a shame that they only do the 6 and not a 4 (yet?). A 6 is a bit of an overkill!
Yeah I was a bit annoyed there isn't a 4 model for the diesel. I think between both the diesel and gas the cable to the control panel is the same
Out of interest why are you changing from LPG to diesel? We are just deciding on which one to go for now
@@fraserread3558 because LPG is getting increasingly difficult to find (particularly in more remote locations like northern Scotland). Using LPG just for cooking uses very little gas, it is the heating which consumes far more. I will always have diesel in the tank, and compared to driving heating consumption would be much less so would not make much difference. Diesel is (currently, and for foreseeable future) easy to find everywhere.
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Is that a copy truma from China aliexpress ? just that I fitted a genuine one last week in a narrow boat and it had trama D6E heater sign writing on top of it , and your one hasn't.
Yeah it's a genuine one for sure