''Can You bind the chains of the Pleiades? Or loose the Chords of Orion? Tell me Job since _you know.''_ ~ 38:31 The Pleiades is a bound cluster, and Orion's belt is flying apart! Now HOW would Job KNOW this?? Well now ..he must REALLY HAVE talked to God :D
Of course. God knows and tells those He speaks to. I wouldn't trust an a-Thiest that talks to another a-Theist, and neither believe in God when He foretold the end from the beginning that only those who He allows to live will live. Most atheists die horribly they say. Cursing, illnesses, fear and trembling, gnashing teeth and claiming God is a madman and evil. *If God is non-existent, why call Him names* God is visible to those who have eyes to see; Rom 1:20
@S P ~ l have never been so in awe of Gods majesty until The Lord revealed that book to me! ''Can you command a morning? Or put the dawn in its place?'' What a wonderful diatribe showing the insignificance of human effort! lts just ASTOUNDING when The Holy Spirit reveals things about God that are mindblowing! The WORDS He uses are ....STUPENDOUS! They really can make people understand what The FEAR of God really means! _ALL GLORY_ goes to The KING of kings, and LORD of lords! :)
The Pleiades will not stay gravitationally bound forever. The major constellations, including Orion, are not even a thing as their stars are not related to the same system, so pretty well every constellation is moving apart and forming other configurations.
@@haggismcbaggis9485 ~ ''But Who are you oh man'' that you should talk back to HIM that created you?'' ~ Romans 9:20 NO ...it will NOT stay together forever, but it WILL stay together for as long as HE ordains! HE is going to UN-create it at the time that He has decreed. btw...HE did _not_ use science to create HIS creation. He did it by means of the miraculous. Just like He did when He raised Lazarus ...and Himself from the dead because HE has the Keys to Life, death, and Hades. Actually He has declared the He _IS_ life itself. Go read Job 38 just for the heck of it, and if it doesnt move you ...than you were not 'chosen' and your eyes are double blinded by God, and the Evil one. ''The Gospel is foolishness to those that are perishing, but to those who are SAVED it is the POWER of GOD'' ~ 1 Corinthians !:18 l will pray for you Haggis that you ASK, and you too will be saved. lt is thee most Amazing thing in all creation, the mercy of Jesus! :)
@@timhallas4275 Jesus Christ walked on water, raised the dead, told the wind in the sea to be still and they obeyed him. He also went to the cross willingly to pay for your sins and mine. I don’t know if God had to change any of the laws of physics to do that but he certainly could have if he wanted to.
@@timhallas4275 You wouldn’t expect different authors to all write the same thing Jesus did many things each author chose what to write about. In the gospel of John chapter 21 verse 25 says That there were many other things that Jesus did that were not written down.
@@timhallas4275 John 8:…23Then He (Jesus)told them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24That is why I told you that you would die in your sins. For unless you believe that I am He (The Christ), you will die in your sins.” 25“Who are You?” they asked. “Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied.… Tim Hallas ,,,,don’t be like the Pharisees Who rejected Christ and his redemption by refusing to believe him.
I own a cheap telescope and even this instrument reveals some amazing sights. The Living GOD is an Artist w/no equal, not even a close second. I long to see the things The Lord has prepared for those who love HIM. The earth will be filled w/the knowledge of The Lord. When the sons of GOD are revealed the curse placed on creation (because of our sin) will be taken away & we will see awesome things we can't even imagine today. Even so Lord return quickly. Please keep sharing the work you do in revealing "The handy work of GOD". Even now HE has mercy on those who repent and believe on HIM.
Even without a telescope it doesn’t take a super genius mind to look at the final phase crescent sliver moon at sundown and tell that it is a spherical object lit up by the sun. If the moon is clearly a sphere why should the earth or anything else be flat?
Like I said in the first place you can see and tell that it is a spherical ball shaped object lit up by the sun. You can clearly see the angle of the location of the sun in relation to the way it is lit. If it were flat it would go from the edge being lit to a full lit moon in like one day.
These videos have made it abundantly clear that we do NOT know as much about dating the earth and fossils as we have been led to believe for decades. Perhaps we do not know as much as we THINK we do about light and space as well.
@@scotennis609 - Or maybe God speaks the truth in Genesis 1 and the stars were created on the fourth day and God "stretched out the heavens," as He says over and over in His Word and also Einstein was right. The stars were created on the fourth day, less than 6000 years ago and their clocks were adjusted by the stretching of the universe. Yay! God's Word wins again! Scientific evidence supports the Genesis creation narrative. Yep. Always does.
@@rubiks6 yeah every single facet of Genesis has been proven wrong time and time again. The technology you use everyday Works only because the facts we know and those facts disprove Genesis
@@dompalmer7606 it has never been demonstrated as such. All we have is a compilation of books written by men, primitive men, who knew absolutely nothing about the real world. (we have Science for that)
@@sodaht2296 You mean like the science that says the earth is billions of years old and everything came from nothing in a big bang. One day an ameba grew legs and walked out of the primordial soup an diversified into all the kinds of species that exist. And now, after millions of years, science now says that humanity is faced with extinction level pandemic and everybody must conform to an authoritarian system of control or be considered as selfish, irresponsible and a threat to the whole. You can have you science. I'll put my faith in the word my heavenly father who promised he would preserve for me.
For the question in the title, I think the relativity of simultaneity could be the answer. "In physics, the relativity of simultaneity is the concept that distant simultaneity - whether two spatially separated events occur at the same time - is not absolute, but depends on the observer's reference frame."
I did not understand how the light from distant stars can be sped up. Even provided that it is a miracle, if the speed of light changes, it affects nearly everything else in our physical framework. Can the Universe even remain stable if the lightspeed begins to change? The miracle of the lightspeed changing requires a large number of other miracles to happen in parallel to make a consistent whole.
Contraction and expansion in a 3+1 hypersurface vacuum expansion can occur with gravitational waves. The light speed barrier becomes irrelevant if the distance can shorten and expand without effecting rate of travel. You can take longer to reach the same destination at the same speed depending on how space time has been stretched out. But this is only a potential explanation for some observances, not all Personally I'd recommend Robert H. Stein's statement on Miracles and how belief in or against them is what will inevitably determine which direction the first step in your journey takes, and ultimately your final destination. Lutheran Satire has a very humorous video on the subject called Conal and Donal meet Richard Dawkins, my favorite line is the joke about disproving the existence of barium in a laboratory setting simply by throwing away the few samples they definitively had on hand.
@@modakkagitplugga, so far all observed deformations of spacetime have been waves, returning cyclically to the original state in a short time. The space-deforming waves are so faint that we need top-level instruments to detect them even though the natural phenomena creating them are of cataclysmic scale, like colliding black holes. This is very different from the whole observable universe to rescale itself and stay that way. Even supposing that such a space deformation has happened, we are still not off the hook, because such deformations do not disappear without leaving traces, a record of the things happened that we can read from the sky when the light of them reaches our eyes. Space cannot change without us seeing it happen.
That's fine idea, comparing star light appearing to the earth bringing forth plants and animals. Animals simply formed out of the waters and ground as full grown creatures. It certainly was miraculous. The entire creation event was entirely miraculous of God. On the 3rd day the plants before the sun on the 4th day the sun, moon, stars 20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind So God simply created everything as new but also matured, full grown, as if it took a long time to get there, so why not starlight.
In the beginning when God said let there be light he didn't say Let There Be Darkness for 10 million years until the light shows up. There was light immediately.
Daniel ~ AMEN! The people that think its''up for debate'' are right about debating with one another, but ''debating'' God is a fools errand! Remember Job 38? And he was a _righteous_ man! _ALL GLORY_ goes to The KING of kings, and LORD of lords!
@Roll tide Roll ~ l think you're being a bit irreverent, as well as naive. God says what He means, and means what He says. lf you dont accept the 6 days of creation, then when exactly does His word ''kick in'' for you? He decided to TELL us the Truth about creation so we would BELIEVE. Not so He could get a ''chuckle'' at the expense of ''righteous'' men such as Enoch ...who never died, but was walked straight into heaven because He ''walked with God for _three hundred years!_ ALL GLORY goes to The KING of kings, and LORD of lords.
In fact, it is naive to think that God, being immortal, only created something 6,000 years ago. It is entirely possible that galaxies are millions of years old, since their creator is infinitely older than that. Not to mention that nowhere in Genesis does it speak of the creation of the universe, only of the creation of this planet, the Earth.
With questions about time, I've found it helpful to assume that time was created during Genesis 1:1. We are currently locked in time and cannot comprehend the absence of time.
@@brendanl2580 most evolutionists believe in a man who traveled on a sail boat and didn't even know the big bang existed when the Bible knew the big bang existed from the moment it said that God spoke light in the beggining
Its been created that way. There is no way everything came together in the universe then earth and life on earth by accident. Everything has to be exactly the way it is or we never lived
If that is science then weve been told lies from scientists for a long time. They have no data from millions of years ago so no such truthes can come from there results
Come on. All that is relied on is a technology that has no evidence. Where is the sample that is a known age without testing by carbon dating that is this brainwashing age of a million years old. Scientists have been paid to lie. Free your self from the box, and look outside.
God is all powerful. He can do anything. People say he can't make a square circle, I don't believe that. I believe he can make a square circle, but if he did it would be beyond your comprehension. For example, the tesseract, if it does in fact exists, is beyond your comprehension and imperceptible to you as a "tesseract" because it can't fully exist in the dimensional plane in which our perceivable reality exists.
God does not promise "hell" or "heaven" as rewards. "Hell" is "the grave, pit, hole in the ground". "Heaven" is the "high places", the sky, the expanse where celestial bodies are, and the unseen Higher abode of the Father. The promise of eternal life and its opposite, eternal death, is what is spoken of repeatedly. There is no fiery tortured existence burning a person who can never die. God Almighty is not a sadist, not the demon inspired Molech/Moloch. He is just and merciful.
exactly ...and the theory of relativity is a bunch of long winded stuff written to try and discount the Michelson - Morley experiment in 1887 that proved the earth is stationary .
God can certainly speed up the processes which in natural would take ages. 9:00 Well said Danny, "Science addresses the natural world and miracles are supernatural and you cannot use scientific method to discuss miracles"
Sometimes God uses natural means to accomplish His miracles. I always remember reading a news article when I was a teen, it was about a church in Mexico I think where one night all the statues ( Catholic ) in the church all turned to face the statue of the baby Jesus and they said it was a miracle. It later said that scientists found that an earthquake occurred in that area which rocked the church just right to make all the statues rock and just so happen to turn and face Jesus. I remember thinking “ maybe that is how God turned all the statues, He used an earthquake just right and not His hand “. I later learned of many other things done this way by God and most of them set in motion way back at the creation. In this video they were talking about starlight taking many many years to get to earth, I believe God created Stars way out in space with light from them already traveling across the universe as if they were there for thousands of years. Like not only creating a 747 jumbo jet in full running condition but creating a 747 jumbo jet in running condition with 3000 hours of running time on it all hot wailing across the sky at 30,000 ft with a long jet trail behind it as if it had been there.
""Science addresses the natural world and miracles are supernatural and you cannot use scientific method to discuss miracles". On that basis anyone can literally claim anything. I mean literally anything. Then if science rukles it out, the claimant simply says "it's supernatural". Do you really think that's reasonable. For example : Angels visited me last night, and I floated up to Mars, where i played football with aliens. Clearly that's outside of scientific possibility, so I claim it as supernatural. Do you then believe it? If not, why not? Just because you choose to believe in the bible rather than me? On what basis? I'm telling you I know it happened.
@@michaelszczys8316 "I remember thinking “ maybe that is how God turned all the statues" - then you decided to believe in that thought? Blimey. Your bar for truth is set very low. Very very low.
There is another biblical point that is seldom addressed. I have a relative who believes the miracles, specifically of the Old Testament, to be the makings of fairy tales. But if we had the Word of an omnipotent God who did no miraculous signs or wonders, that would seriously put into doubt his omnipotence. We NEED these miracles in order to understand God's power. And if an unbeliever read a bible that had no miraculous signs, he or she would be less inclined to put any trust in that god. In the same way, we need the miracle of starlight to show us just how powerful God is. Starlight, in and of itself, is a miracle---plain and simple---because we shouldn't be able to see it at all except for the sun and some very close stars. I have no problem "bumping into" a miracle when it comes to discussing science because the rules that science has discovered also come from God who is the only one who can either bend or break those rules.
Isn't it possible that Light travels instantly from its source and takes time to reflect back? Hence the "speed of light" just being the measurement of a light source to and from a measuring system?
The speed of light has nothing to do with light! You would know that, if you actually understand what the speed of light actually ment, and how it firmly proves that the universe, and this planet is very old!!!
You don't just have a starlight problem, but a matter travel problem with the collision of galaxies and jets proceeding from the cores. I personally think we require a paradigm shift. Isaiah 34:4 says that the host of heaven will be destroyed in an act of falling like leaves and fruit. I believe the solution in solving many mysteries is a new theory of gravity. If you are interested, then I"ve posted a video on that subject along with other concepts that are fueled by seeing design in creation.
@Darren - I wish you did understand Einstein's theory of Special Relativity. I would use it to tell you how much you are on the right track. Time does not pass at the same rate under different conditions. Stars created four days after the Earth can pass through thousands, millions, or even billions of years when God stretched out the heavens while the Earth only experienced the fourth day. Perhaps you've heard of the twin paradox (it's not really a paradox) where one twin gets in a rocket and flies away near the speed of light, turns around and comes back and discovers that his twin brother is now an old man while the trip only seemed to take a day for the twin in the rocket. Same principle with the Earth and the stars. Einstein's theory of Special Relativity is indeed true and as a Christian who believes in the creation narrative in the Bible, I am really glad that it is.
@@ryanhedrick2841 - Unless you explain your response, I'm going to tell you that's exactly how special relativity works. It is meaningless to deny my hypothesis without any supporting argument or evidence.
I was raised to believe in a young earth but as I grew older my love of science and young earth dogma clashed, science won. There is so much about the world that makes no sense in a young earth perspective. Most likely tho this comment will be removed or drowned out by those who claim to love to hear peoples testimonies until it contradicts their beliefs.
@akrebsie your post is typical of evolution, defenders, using the same approach over and over and over. You make sweeping statements about how your belief system is correct. But you don’t mention any science. They don’t either. You, and they, evade dealing with any of the topics of science brought up in a creation video. You don’t try to refute them, not even on one point. Yet you think you’re being really scientific while you say zero about science! And by the way, even if the universe would be billions of years old, that would give absolutely no support for the evolution theory. We can see what’s happening right here on this planet with real science and logic. And it shows that there is no way the human beings came from bacteria or fish or Lucy. For just one of countless example, Richard Dawkins says you came from bacteria. What does the actual data show on this planet earth? Bacteria have been observed since 1670 and they have produced billions of generations since then. Ancient fossilized examples have been found. Not one of them has ever been shown to be anything but bacteria in their bacterial domain, no matter how much it changes. There ain’t any transitions. So don’t think that believing in an old universe means that you came from a bacteria. That is all pseudo sub science garbage. Wake up. Find out who you really are.
Creation narrative in Genesis is composed of two strands: one describes the process of creation starting with "Let there be light...", (scientists call this the big bang), accompanying this creation narrative is the second narrative which culminates in Seventh Day Shabbat rest, these two narratives are intertwined together as is melody and rhythm in a piece of music. The repetitive "And it was evening and morning..." is the rhythm section, its purpose is to introduce the 7th day Shabbat, this does not impose earthly 24hr time on the creation narrative. It is unnecessary for Christians to insist on 6 x 24hr creation, but we are to maintain that creation emerges perfectly formed from the moment of its appearance. Fossil evidence confirms that creation appeared perfectly formed, there is no evidence of evolution from so called lower forms, there is adaptation, but there is no species transition. Hebrew word for "day" does not necessarily mean 24 hr earthly time, the meaning allows for very long earthly time, consistent with scientific observation. Crucial point to defend for Christians is that creation is "very good" from the get go, and does not evolve across species boundaries. Regarding nature of Man: Man is the embodied breath of Life, this breath of Life is our mind. Man consists of: physical body, the mind, and language. The physical body is me, the mind is me, the word is me, a triune unity.
The Bible is complex. Scientists cannot figure out the universe let alone the Scriptures'. They are still unsure of many microbiological subtractions and reactions that somehow maintain balance in our own body. Which is rather susceptible to disease yet highly sustainable and implausibly regenerative. It's degradative yet regerantive. Mind blowing. We are the only creation s that do not process Vit C, along with monkeys and another few. This is a poor way to prove evolutionism, however they have an a deer for it I'm sure.
Ah yes, the old "God just did it" explanation. No need for a 20 minute video. It literally could have been a 10 second video. "How can a star be 10 million light years away but we can see its light now if the universe is less than 10 thousand years old? God did it. The end."
It’s one thing to believe God did it, and another to believe it did it entirely on its own. The Bible says that God stretched out the heavens, so saying “God did it” wouldn’t be a last-ditch attempt at saving creationism like you make it out to be. It’s in the scripture, and it beats the hell out of evolutionism.
We can see the light from stars because it's always been here. Job 9:8 says God "Stretched out the heavens". This implies the universe was much more dense in the past (secularists would agree). If the universe was much more dense than it is today, the light was at one point already here. For the light to not be here, the expansion of the universe would have had to have been faster than the speed of light. It could have been as fast as the speed of light or faster and we couldn't know the difference.
אמת. Acc to the kabbalistic tradition of whats called מעשה בראשית in the 2nd perek of chagiga, the ramban explains quoting from Sefer haBahir (midrash of rebbe Nuchunia ben Hakaneh) how creation actually unfolded, and what you wrote goes in line exactly with whats written.
Of course this can't be definitively proven, but we do know that gravity affects how fast Time progresses and thus the speed of light. The further out of our gravity well that Earth sits in, the "faster Time" progresses. We know that our satellites register Time going faster than for us. I forget the exact difference, but it's like 1 sec on Earth is matched by ~1.0000003 seconds for the satellites. How much faster is Time outside of our solar system? How much faster between the stars? Or outside the galaxies? What if......it only takes a day or so for light to travel from anywhere to anywhere? Just a fun personal theory. ;)
As a kid, I always got in trouble for speaking against the big bang. The idea of it defies the most basic laws of physics. 1) everything should be traveling at the exact same speed 2) since space is a vacuum, solar systems could never be formed because we'd still be hurling through space - there's more reasons but I'll stop for now
Inflation and general relativity can actually be used to argue for a young universe. Since time is relative, and the deeper you are inside a gravitational well, the slower it passes for you, and since in the early universe everything was close together, causing the most massive gravitational well in all of the universe's history (the singularity from which the universe supposedly expanded from), then from our perspective today, far above in the "average" gravitational well of the universe, looking at the distant past by observing light, it would appear to be much, much older, but just because time was running slower then. Just like if you look at an object falling into a black hole, it will appear to you as if it was moving slower. It means there are some parameters that could be applied to Einstein's field equations, where both statements: "from my frame of reference, the universe appears to be billions of years old" and "from my frame of reference, the universe appears to be a few thousand years old" are simultaneously true. If I still was up to date with my tensor calculus, I would give it a shot at finding these parameters. Something tells me they will be remarkably close to the conditions of the inflationary period.
@@ozowen the fact that there are parameters that cause the two statements to be simultaneously true is that, a FACT. There is absolutely no debate to be had here. My suggestion that the value could be close to how the universe was during the inflationary period is an educated guess, a "Fermi estimation", as it is called, based upon the Lorentz factor between the times involved and the approximate size of the universe during the reionization epoch. I would love to waste weeks of my life solving field equations to prove an illiterate atheist on TH-cam wrong. But I actually wouldn't.
@@matheusdardenne 1) I'm not an atheist. 2) Although you proclaim your conclusions as "not to be debated" the fact is that they are not only not considered, they are also such that you have no faith in them yourself. As I said- do the research, publish the paper or simply retreat into the background with your BS.
@@ozowen If you're not an atheist, then it is even worse. You would at least have that as an excuse for being scientifically illiterate. There is no excuse for a Christian not to understand stabilished science. Secondly, I am completely confident that the values would be approximate, because as I said, this is a Fermi estimation made upon known values. I am running a business, pushing over 100 work hours a week, but let's do it that way: you pay me 70 dollars an hour, for two weeks, and I will calculate it for you. Deal?
Some of the writings in scripture are from the perspective of men , so what you get is from a earth perspective , and not meant to be taken as scientific fact , but is spiritual in its focus.
A day is a unit of time based on the length of time which elapses between the Sun reaching its highest point in the sky two consecutive times. How is it that 4 days passed before the sun was created, if a day cannot exist without the sun?
@@dodibenabba1378 There is no reason to think that. God told Noah that it was going to rain 40 days and 40 nights. How long did it rain for? God said that the temple would be rebuilt in 3 days.. How long did that take?
@@righty-o3585 John 2:19-21 “19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 21But he spake of the temple of his body.”
@@jeffpeff Why are you quoting the Bible to me? You can't use the Bible to prove the Bible. That's not how that works. That is no different than saying YES HUH, BECAUSE I SAID SO.
Berry Setterfield’s work on light and How it is directly associated with ZPE, explains a lot concerning light. He found Zero point energy as it increases is directly proportional to light actually slowing down. As the universe is being stretched (like a rubber band) generating energy in the form of waves which collide to create matter. When the peak waves move apart they convert back to energy. Think of two waves in the sea colliding and where they intersect forms a crests creating a white cap That becomes visible. As the waves continue on, The wave energy dissipates and the white cap disappears. In a similar manor, In the brief moment of time ZPE waves collide, it becomes a particle and captures the photons acting like a hurdle for the photon slowing it down. This is why matter seems to appear from nowhere Then disappears again. String theory was a result of observing these colliding waves. Their error was that they surmised matter was being drawn from another universe popping in and out of existence From one dimensions to another. “Again secular scientists trying to justify their worldview.” If it is impossible for life to exist because of laws of probability, then if I have an infinite number of universes, my probability improves. In essence, “if I just add more time I can justify evolution”......Anyway, The more hurdles the photon encounters the slower the beam of light. The less tension there is on the fabric of space the lower or the longer the waves. The more tension we put on the fabric like a rubber band increases the potential and shortens the wave intervals, thus the frequency of peak wave collisions increase. We have been taught that The speed of light is a constant, which is provably not true. Light could actually get to the earth instantaneously, it could take five minutes 10 minutes our 1000 years we just don’t know. There are several experiments conducted recently, where it’s has been demonstrated you can stop light dead in its tracks And start the photon up again. They’ve Slowed it down to 35 miles an hour. Light refraction in water also shows that light actually slows down according to the medium is traveling through. These all demonstrate the speed of light is associated or can be affected by the medium it travels through. The Bible even gives us a clue when it says the heavens can be worn out, stretched, torn, folded, etc. Nothing is supposed to be able to travel faster than the speed of light but physics reveals that you can effect one particle on one side of the universe and instantaneously affect others across the universe That can’t happen unless everything is connected for example. If I put a pen mark on a sheet of paper and I put my finger on the other side I move the mark instantaneously as I move my finger and the sheet under it. In a similar way the fabric of space works. As the fabric is stretched it gains more potential energy increasing ZPE. The expectation then is that if the universe is continually expanding or as God puts it “he stretches out the heavens“ is that light in the past would have been instantaneous or exponentially faster than it is today. Another question we need to solve is the red shift. The red shift can no longer be attributed to expansion of the universe. We have now found galaxies where the red shift occurs in the middle of a spiral galaxy. If the red shift is caused by expansion then how can occur in the middle of an organized galaxy. We should observe a galaxy being ripped apart not an orderly spiral as it is observed today. What that would conclude is that the red shift could be caused by something other than a Doppler effect. I would suggest we may be looking at early light wave when the ZPE waves were longer and the universe had less tension. Another good physicists to look into if you want to understand how the universe formed and how it works is David Lapointe’s premier field theory. He demonstrates gravitational forces are the effect of magnetic bowls formed by a Z pinch. This Z pinch focuses energy in the form of plasma and converts it to matter. These magnetic fields created by the resulting “Primer Fields” even affect non-ferrous material. As energy is drawn through a central nul point, (note: Energy radiates out from the null point in two directions known as magnetic poles in waves expanding in ratios seen in Fibonacci sequence, The outer weaker part of these waves are then drawn back in to the center) solid matter and raw energy is drawn toward this flow of energy much like a floating object in a stream is drawn toward the heaviest flow. The only reason we do not get pushed down the stream is because matter has formed around the drain or like hard water builds up minerals which acts like a sifter where only raw energy seeps through. The matter and larger items remain on top as energy in the form of magnetic energy is drawn through the center and expelled through the pipe which runs along its axis. These magnetic bowls “primer fields” generate magnetic fields focus energy to the point it converts to matter but in a stable state unlike the colliding ZPE waves which peak and then dissipate. Unconverted energy continues to flow through a central point where the Z pinch occurred because it can travel through the matter as it is smaller. This current then draws the matter inward toward the center pipe. like an electric current passing through a wire creates what’s called Eddy currents. Which the planets and the moons are caught in. Each planet and moon are Cut in these Eddy currents or Birkeland current along the axial plane formed by the primer field bowls. If you’ve ever seen rapid moving water you might get a sense of this effect. Picture a whirlpool forming because there’s an obstruction. The water is not allowed to pass freely and it creates a whirl pool. Any sticks or debris that are floating around a specific distance can actually be repealed from being sucked into the center. While everything else within the event horizon is drawn inward. Gravitational forces and magnetism are nothing more than the flow of energy. Since flowing plasma has Tendrils or fibers much like muscles they interact with each other. They are called Birkeland currents. As the Z pinch is Forming, The outer filaments are collapsed into planets and moons, as it continues to compress these plasma filaments become so dense that enough energy flows through it to go into arc mode which is what creates nickel, iron and then all the other elements. Our sun is a result of a Z pinch that has happened in the center of multiple filaments that as they compressed formed planets and once it collapses enough went into a arc mode. Because energy flow is sustained the arc is sustained. Again like a drain having too much water poured through it, some will splash out in the form of electrons which then collide with the first thing it hits, creating fusion only at the surface. This is why when we look at the sun spots they are 4000° cooler which means the center of the sun is not the source of fusion as the gravity model would predict. We observe fusion is not being generated from inside but happening at the surface of the sun. Like all energy it will seek equilibrium that’s why an electron accelerates as it moves away from the sun. It’s equalizing potential. The flow direction of the plasma creates the poles and the magnetic fields created by the collapse of the filament not only generate an Eddie current causing the systems to revolve a certain way but it creates an axial plane in which they are trapped in. A spiral galaxy is created when two filaments are traveling in the same direction and they interact with each other. Other formations are created when two filaments collide going in opposite directions. All demonstrated in the lab. Recently they discovered that spiral galaxies centers are spinning at the same rate Is its outer planets. This is an impossibility if gravity is the causal force of planetary formation and galaxy formation. There is no such thing as a graviton or even gravitational force as we know it. It is merely the effect of energy and energy flow. This flow creates frequencies such as radio and light Like the amount of breath forms a note on a flute depending on the whole size and the amount of air passing across it. ............ capacitance resistance and vibration. This same mechanism explains galaxy formation, solar systems all the way down to atoms. What you see then in an electron microscope is a physical representation of the magnetic primer field bowls. A proton and a neutron may be nothing more than magnetic pole opposites. Recent studies have shown Z pinches can be created in water via sound waves. Looks like a star in water. Ironically as hot as the sun. (The sun is a plasmoid). There have been multiple plasma studies that have been able to reproduce every formation we see In galaxy formations. Sapphire project has even created many signs complete with solar flares and pole reversals. What is interesting to think about is that the Bible notes in the end God will simply let go and the earth and the universe will go up in flames with A fervent noise. The sun and stars will go dark. Guess what would happen if you stop the flow of energy?
It just occurred to me too that space might not be curved like Einstein Theorized. Light may be drawn to the planetary body due to the flow of energy. Have you ever seen the experiment where you rub a balloon on someone’s hair and then hold it next to a running faucet? Photons are merely a form of energy, it is likely they would interact with positively charged planets much like a balloon.
I also enjoyed Barry Setterfield's meta-research on the speed of light experiment data done over 100 years, and how it has dropped over time as the zero-point-energy of space changed over time. I'm sorry that I can't seem to find his web pages on the internet anymore ....
In the beginning the earth was void and without form. It didn't say the earth was not here. Our beginning isn't the earths beginning and certainly not Gods.
Bingo. You don't have to believe in a young earth to be a bible believing Christian. The fact is we simply do not know. But the young earth idea just doesn't make sense to me.
@@timothykeith1367 .... Thank you... I’ve heard the same.... but considering the average depth of the oceans (approx 3 miles) versus the amount of bottom area that’s a lot of filtering vs the amount s of water..... but like the soft tissue, blood cells etc now commonly found in fossils .... the reason given for not testing and finding it sooner was that it was impossible to be there ..... which they are correct it is impossible at the ages they believe... Have a great day!!!!
The question in this video's title contains hidden presupposition that it is impossible to have young Earth in old Universe. Like “one cannot build a new house in an old town”. Why?
@@billvigus3719 Are you serious? No matter if there was direct creation or there was an evolution, no law prohibits creation of new objects (stars, comets, planets…) in an old universe. Just like with buildings. Do you think it is impossible to build a new house in an old town? It is as simple as that.
Well, you didn't mention that a day for God is not a day for us. In fact isn't a day for the Lord compared to a thousand years for us? Also, most of the things you describe as happening defy the laws of physics - conservation of energy, mass, momentum the irreversible process of entropy, the speed of light etc. Your explanation is pure magic - one set of immutable laws to create and a second set of immutable laws to maintain -- this sounds like the irreconcilable differences between the Theory of Relativity and quantum mechanics - they both work well in their sphere but cannot be merged or compared.
God works well in every sphere. I heard a thousand years is like one day for God. Does that mean Jonah was really in the whale for 3,000 years? Wow. I didn't know a man could live so long.
A few Heavens deep. There is a point where all matter in earth and the Heavens is impassable through the firmament. It states birds fly in the firmament, but there are differing firmaments. In Genesis. Separation of Waters and Heavens there is a heaven under the earth as well. Yet that does not mean we are capable of passing into it because it states there is waters below us and they are deep as well as a heart of the earth. To state hollow earth spherical, would deny that God stated earth was flat, stationary and He set the Heaven in the expanse. False scientism created spherical design but God stated otherwise.
I didn't think this one was one of the better episodes personally. He talks about believing uniformity in all cases being a risk but then applies a principle of uniformity to assume that God treated the stars the same way he treated plants, despite saying Creation is where uniformity breaks down...
Flawed thinking... "I reject it because I am a biblical creationist"... See, if you place your belief in how a thing works ahead of the evidence collected being allowed to guide your investigation you will learn nothing new, or even accurately. That's not how science works. That's how perpetuating a lie works. Assert a position and then cherry pick/misrepresent data such that it supports your presupposed assertion. We left the dark ages long ago, well, most of us.
@Will Theaxe Depends on what you allow the word 'proof' to include. The only 'proof' of God is the collection of stories called the Bible. But, if that is the case then there is every bit as much proof that a school for wizards called Hogwarts exists. Both books contain references to real places. And there are tons of people who would swear that witchcraft is a real thing. Not me, but there is quite a large population that believe in such powers. This is not evidence though. I was raised around religion, I went to christian schools, went to sunday school, sang hymns, etc. But it just never made sense. So, I gave it up. For one thing, I could never understand why a loving god would doom his creation to hell just for not loving him. That's not how love works. Or why did this loving god flood the world to kill everyone, including sinless newborns, save one single hand picked family. For that matter the whole ark thing makes 0 sense logistically. Anyway, believe what you will, but evidence is not an ancient collection of myths written thousands of years ago, then edited down to justify the authority of popes and kings. That's just not how evidence works. There is however plenty of evidence of how religions form, and gods are created and used, by man, for many thousands of years. It continues today, and began when some imaginative person, long ago, wanted to explain why things happened. What is lightning, must be a creature I cannot see. Why did Og die last night, mush have been some creature I did not see, and left no tracks, no marks. Why did happen? Must have been a god. And when someone else wanted to control that population they tapped into their beliefs, said 'if you do this, for me, then the god of whatever will reward you'. And this continues to this day. Pray all you like, no limb has ever regrown. No child rose from the dead from their casket. I believe religion is philosophical, and personal. It should be a pursuit of truth rather than devotion to dogma and liars. For me, this led to atheism. Is it possible an all powerful being exists? Sure, in the realm of anything is possible, sure, it's possible. Is there evidence of this? No. But it is possible. Is it possible the god of the bible exists? No. Why? Because for that to be true you first have to accept the bible as the inerrant word of god, but there are mountains of errors in that book, conflicting accounts, and conflicting claims. Stories told by a perfect all powerful being would not be so confused. Was there a Jesus? Perhaps. Was he supernatural in any form? No. Again, all we have are stories without supporting evidence. Was his mother a virgin? No, wouldn't be the first time a woman told a story about how she got pregnant. People lie. This is not a new thing. Anyway, believe what you wish, just learn what evidence is and work your way toward the truth from there. These apologists exist for precisely one reason, to keep the collection plate filled. The books they sell and the videos/movies they make are all funded for this precise purpose.
@Will Theaxe Other than the bible what is there? Or let me put this another way... If the bible did not ever exist, if you deleted all human knowledge and started over right now, would research come to the conclusion that god was real? Even if different names were used, would that same conclusion be reached? This is unknown, because there is no tangible evidence. But, we would have the same physical sciences, because those are observable, testable, and repeatable. You would have different names for everything of course, Helium might be named Fred's Favorite Gas, but the physical laws we know of today would be rediscovered. But the supernatural, while such stories would still be running around to explain the unknown for some people, would take a whole new form. Maybe it would give rise to the many gods again, a god of the sea, a god of the sun, lots of house gods, gods of the harvest and so on. And, maybe, the same evolution would happen again, maybe, where in the constant oneupsmanship humans do where 'my god is more powerful than yours', one all powerful untouchable god would be defined, but no evidence would be available, just stories. Meanwhile, science would be figuring out how things work again. And as it does the need for these gods would evaporate. You don't need to pray to the god of the harvest, just water your crops correctly and remove the weeds as you should. You don't need to pray to the god of the ocean, just learn to build better boats. You don't need to pray to the sun god, it will rise daily, and we know why. It's too easy to just go 'I don't know, so God did it', and it accomplishes nothing, and it benefits no one (except the ones passing the collection plate). God became the popular primary religion because the roman empire declared it to be so. It's that simple. The pope and the roman emperor joined forces and established that their authority came from God. The pope's first 'real' miracle was deflecting a 'barbarian horde' from getting close to rome (he paid them a pile of gold on the spot, and then a steady supply of gold for years after this). The pope, and the emperor, were direct lines to God on earth was the claim. And that set it in stone. Other nobles over time bought into this, after all, if you have the power of the pope (who commanded an army at the time) behind you, and all they controlled, it's a winning combination. Thus, the roman catholic church propagated their teachings and rule throughout all the 'civilized' world. Over time, other flavors of the religion branched off to build their own power base, and we have the many versions we have now. it's just how human greed and power work, and always has. We have evidence of this progression in the form of records of not just the church but also the emperors and kings throughout europe. Impartial records as well from various scribes just noting payments and travels of various nobles through their areas. So, other than the bible, what direct evidence of God exists? And remember, there is probably matching evidence that zeus, apollo and athena exist.
@Will Theaxe "86% of the planet believes in a spirutal realm" What 86% of the people believe is evidence of nothing beyond saturation of a myth in culture. This is not evidence to support the existence of God, nor is it even evidence there is a 'spiritual realm'.
@Will Theaxe Insults? I responded to your statement, no insult in there. And now you are mixing up definitions and concepts. The ordinary person test is whether an ordinary person could be expected to understand something, like an agreement, or a law. Not as a basis of evidence. Try it sometime... "Well your honor, everyone else in traffic was going 100mph so I figured it would be ok if I did as well." That excuse will fall flat. You will still be guilty of exceeding the posted speed limit. As most parents ask their kids at some point "If everyone else walks off a cliff should you do it also?"... If unsure, the answer to that is no. Same here... Just because a belief in the supernatural is pervasive in the population does not make it accurate, or evidence, it simply means it is popular. And nothing I said in my reply to you was an insult. Science doesn't care about witnesses. Witnesses are well documented as being the worst basis of evidence. They get details wrong, they lie, they have poor memories, etc. Science requires testable evidence and experiments that can be reproduced by the impartial. It is slow, but it is reliable. It also requires an open mind, as new things are discovered occasionally it causes old beliefs to be reconsidered. But, this is a good thing for everyone involved. I appreciate you believe. I appreciate you have probably believed all your life to some degree, and likely your parents and family, community, etc. But, there is a rather large chasm between what is belief, and what is evidence. Evidence is testable, it is verifiable, and most importantly it can be tested and verified by anyone, regardless of their agenda or personal bias. Example. A person with normal vision, and a color blind person. If both are shown a color sample, the person with normal vision will identify a color, perhaps red. The color blind person will see something different. This is due to their bias. It is unintentional but their unique viewpoints, in this case due to physiology, is altering their perception. But, and this is the important part, BOTH of them could analyze that color sample with a color meter and get a color value, and both of them would get the same answer. And no, no evidence, in thousands of years now, has ever been provided to prove the existence of God. Just a lot of people looking around and giving credit to the invisible God for what they see or experience. "I don't know, therefore it must be god." This is not evidence, this is giving up. The only 'evidence' has been a collection of semi related stories edited into the form of 'the bible'. For tens of thousands of years this was the normal response to a lot of things, though they credited other gods and forces for whatever they wondered about. But, once people started wondering with a bit more depth, and most importantly writing things down, the mysteries began to unfold. We learned how to measure time, how to predict seasons, eclipses, and so on. Prayer didn't do it, study and observation, the collection of evidence and the analysis of evidence. And even today we learn new things about old ideas. It's an ongoing process.
@Will Theaxe p value is nothing more than probability. And it has no integrity of its own, its integrity is entirely based on the quality of the data you are sampling. And opinions are not evidence in science. Scientific evidence and legal evidence are very different concepts. What is considered valid in a courtroom is often discarded in science. So again, just because a story is known and popular does not make that story true. Millions believe UFOs have landed on this planet, but there is no evidence of this, so it is not considered to be true. As for proving there is no god, you cannot prove a negative. But we can disprove the validity of the claims being made in support of the god of the bible, and the claims being made by creationists, like the world being only 6,000 yrs old or the noahs ark story. We can also demonstrate the behaviors that lead to such belief systems. Meanwhile the only evidence on offer from the believers in god is a collection of conflicting stories, which they like to call inerrant.
I sure could have used that pointer you got while I was in the Military LOL. Mind sharing the make and model? God be glorified for your labors bothers.
Outstanding interview. I pray all people that have used old universe astronomy as their stumbling block could watch this video. If you're a Christian share this video with your friend.
@@knightclan4 that's good... At least you weren't lied too. People who teach evolution as false are some of the biggest morons on the planet. Evolution is a major part of biology
@@sodaht2296 Evolution has been disproved time and rime again. So many people hold onto it bexause they cant accept the fact of a creator and a judgement to come. DNA alone, are extremely more complex than anything man has ever created, but we wouldn't say you could shake a bag of watch parts for a billion years and come up with a watch. It's not that hard to understand when the Bible says "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." Psalms 19:1
The speed of light is exponentially slowing due to the increase in zero point energy. Light was moving millions of times faster during creation week. All chemical processes are electrical by nature. Electricity travels at the speed of light, so everything could grow to maturity in a fraction of a second during the first week. Take a look at physicist Barry Setterfield's work on this.
@@Cole-Thinks-Things Sorry my sentence was incomplete. Yes and how his theory was accepted more recently but they didn't give credit at all to Setterfield. I've been pondering the thought a lot and I'm confused, does that mean that the stars and galaxies are a lot closer than we realized?
The flow of time for an object that travels at 0c is 1. And for an object that travels at speed of 1c the flow of time is 0. -> Within a bubble of its own, a photon will travel everywhere in no time.
This is what I've saying. And every time I say it the rubbuttle is always incoherent. Like dued if time stops for anything going the speed of light, but light still manages to go places, that means thag light is instant, and we only register it as C squared when viewed in our refrence frame.
From the live chat: "P B 'If you make the data fit the theory, then the theory never changes'...yet science IS the one who changes theories, not so with theology. Science loves being wrong about ideas. Not for Christians" Firstly, "science" is not a thing. It doesn't have the power to change. It is a method that exists only in human minds. It is the people who employ the method who change...if they are honest. As to your thesis, I find that the evidence indicates that quite the opposite is true. Secular Scientists are constantly faking data to validate their preconceptions. Piltdown man, peppered moths, Henkle's embryos, falsified weather data... it goes on, and on, and on. Christians have no fear of saying "I don't know." When a Christian Scientist (not the cult) encounters data that conflicts with what God has told us, either directly through His word or in evidence He left in His creation, we know that the error is either in the data or with our understanding of the data, not with God or His creation. Both secular and Christian scientific theories are constantly changing, but the motivations are different. The Christian wishes only to conform his perceptions to the truth. The secularist wishes only for the truth to conform to his perception of it. By the way, secular science has the same problem. Secular science says the universe is 14 billion years old, but 93 billion light years across. Same problem, different scale, and they can't answer the question yet either.
Suppose I could always predict the future with nano second accuracy? This is what validates science /(nonsuper)Naturalistic worldview and tested Methods. Can you read this youtube comment? My cell phone youtube comment is evidence of this, this technology (SCIENCE APPLIED) was able to predict the behaviour of a trillion billion future electrons sending you this comment at the speed of light, across the globe, thru multiple servers and satellites....and yet Im REALLY confident this comment got thru all the static and noise. Does your mideval biblical Aristotelian Cosmology have such Predictive Powers and ALSO able to explain a wide range of seemingly unrelated phenomena AND predict future observation all at the same time ? Nooo, not by a loooooong shot, not even close. Can you build a working spiritual metaphysical postmodern potato laser gun using Aristotelian biblical principles? At least tell me how you could calibrate such a tool, so we can be confident the data is accurate.
@@hikerbro3870 , science correctly understood and the proven Word of the Almighty Creator correctly understood are one and the same. Correctly understood, it is impossible either could not be.
Prove that scientists ”fake” data. The ”Piltdown man”, for example has been known as a bad joke, for decades. No serious scientists were involved in that joke.
Dr. Faulkner, I think there is no starlight problem if a person believes the Bible. I think the explanation where God says he stretched out the heavens like a curtain explains the starlight problem very simply. On Day four he stretched out the stars like a curtain, and as they were stretching out they left a light trail. The stretching was done in no more than 24 hours, hence the red shift and the apparent superluminal speeds. If the stars were started at varying times throughout the day and positioned at various distances then the red shifts would vary. We are still looking up at some starlight arriving on earth from day four. Since we are looking into the past we have no evidence that the stars are still moving. God gives a simple one-line explanation!
@@rubiks6 sorry yea. it doesnt state it verbatim. but that is biblical cosmology. sky is firmament with stars and planets on it. and firmament hold the waters that fills the space to flooding the earths. etc.
I wouldn't write of the creation in transit theory just yet. Suppose God were to call out of existence all stars except our sun instantaneously. Could He not then recreate them just as they were a moment later? Of course He could. If He could do this now, He could certainly have done this in the beginning.
"And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth..." Rev. 6:13 The stars are much closer and much smaller than modern "astronomy" shills want us to know. God placed them within the firmament, just above the earth.
And all the stars will fall from the heavens to the earth...uh huh...1.3 million earth's would fit inside of our closest star...please explain the phisycs in that scenario...
Well let's take a look At 12pm noon today 6months from now 12pm will be midnight having traveled to the opposite side of the sun. BONUS planes fly level once reaching cruise alt. speed 600mph a gyroscopes are used In one hour plane would gain 600×600×8 in÷ 12 in = ft of alt gian per hour Want more ok If Venus (aka Lucifer) is between earth n sun Then to view it at night would be IMPOSSIBLE. Got at least fifty more
@@robertcampbell6349 Earth is a circle, not a sphere. It is very possible it is a half-globular system that is also enclosed. No matter particles are destroyed nor created thus, the Laws of the universe prove the mathematics of such calculation is by design. As if the earth is a giant clockwork system. All laws cooperate, isn't that what science also teaches? There is no chaos in a functional system. No way to verify by NASA imagery that the earth is spherical either, due to every picture they have given is cgi or graphics rendered. There is evidence for falsification of simple images, that have changed since their organization came into operation. On earth pictures the continents vary in size
@@abashedsanctimony154 The existence of the south celestial pole completely destroys your half- globe claim. Also, as one travels south toward the equator, the elevation angle to Polaris decreases in direct proportion to latitude until it slips below the north horizon at the equator. As one continues south, one sees different constellations like the Southern Cross. Don't take my word for it, take a trip to Australia and see for yourself. From Australia, you won't be able to see Polaris and you will see the south celestial pole.
@@ronaldariaaria1781 Completely wrong. I happen to be an aerospace engineer and I understand the physics involved. Airplanes at cruise don't gain altitude over the spherical Earth due to conservation of energy. Cruise is an equilibrium condition where Total Energy remains constant. (TE) = Potential Energy (PE) + Kinetic Energy (KE). And KE=1/2m*v^2 and PE = m*g*h. Pitch trim causes the aircraft to seek a constant air speed for the trim setting. If the pilot reduces throttle, the airplane descends. If the pilot advances the throttle, the airplane climbs. When flying over a spherical Earth in cruise conditions, as the Earth curves below the aircraft's path, it causes a slight increase in PE. Since TE is a constant, the increase in PE required an equal reduction in KE. The KE reduction causes the airplane to descend. I'd bet my next paycheck the rest of your 50 claims are equally idiotic.
19:24. In Australia Orion is upside down, which is another proof the Earth is round. It also only appears during our summer before disappearing below the horizon.
Personally ive always thought of the "6000" years and the "7 days" as loose terms or even miss translated through time. Often times in languages 7 and 70 are very similar words. maybe the "day" in the 7 days was actually a longer unit of time than our current day or maybe "day" was miss understood.
I'm sure 7 days in god days is probably 7000 years in people days. There's no way the earth is 6000 years old I believe God created all life and the entire universe but it's something that is never finished.
Even if you hold to a literalist position there were no actual 24 hour days prior to the creation of the sun on Day 4. If you hold to a 6000 year old earth then there are massive problems, because a date of c. 2400 BC for Noah's flood is contradicted by Egyptian and Mesopotamian chronologies. Most historians accept that the historical (written record) of Egypt goes back at least to 3000 BC.
I've always found it interesting that when the Bible says something like 'a man shall not lay with another man' then it's the literal word of God and must be enforced, and people will fight tooth and nail to do it. BUT, when it's something like this where the Bible has been factually demonstrated to be incorrect then it's easily dismissed as a translation error. Maybe a day is actually 10,000 years? (not that that explains what the evidence actually shows). The Bible is always as accurate or inaccurate as theists need it to be to support their current argument. Pick a lane.
@@joshsmith7176 - "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done." - Genesis 2.1 - 2 (ESV)
Isaiah 45:12 It is I Who made the earth and created mankind on it. My Own Hands stretched out the heavens. I marshaled their starry hosts. Jeremiah 10:12 But God made the earth by His Power; He founded the world by His Wisdom and stretched out the heavens by His Understanding. Jeremiah 51:15 He made the earth by His Power; He Founded the world by His Wisdom and stretched out the heavens by His Understanding. This makes sense to me, He stretched out the heavens.
These guys start with a conclusion and try to twist reality to fit that conclusion rather than letting reality dictate the conclusion. Obviously that's going to create problems. Thus "miracles" are needed to make reality make sense in their mind.
Theist logic: Is the evidence consistent with our beliefs? If yes: hallelujah, proof of God! If no (far more common) : God must have used God magic to make this work! God magic is proof of God! Hallelujah!
You mean like the atheists starting with the conclusion that there is no God and then inventing all sorts of scenarios to explain things that God has done?
@@rubiks6 you realize atheists don't care about whatever God you believe in right? If you don't believe in leprechauns no one would say that you started with a regection of leprechauns and built you lies around it. You just don't believe in them because there is no evidence they exist.
The idea of cramming the Bible’s text into our beliefs is called eisegesis, as opposed to exegesis, which is pulling meaning and understand FROM the text. A simple reading of the text answers the question. God intended that the lights in the heavens were to be for signs and seasons, days and years. Genesis 1:14-19 14 ¶ Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; 15 “and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. 16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. 17 God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Obviously He created them in such a manner as to provide visible reference from the earth instantaneously, which, if you are an omnipotent creator, is fairly easy to accomplish, simply by changing the speed of light. The next dilemma is, why did God have to RECREATE the Earth at all. In Genesis 1:2 it states: The Earth HAD BECOME without form, and void. When you look at the actual Hebrew: Inflected: הָיְתָה Root: הָיָהSpeaker Icon Strong's: H1961 Language: Hebrew Code: H Vqp3fs Vqp3fs Word: הָיְתָה Speech: Verb Stem: Qal Type: Perfect (qatal) Person: 3rd Person Gender: Feminine Number: Singular Long: Hebrew Verb: Qal Perfect (qatal) 3rd Person Feminine Singular Which one is a verb, “WAS” or “HAD BECOME”? This is called the “Gap Theory,” and it has merit. It states that there is an undetermined amount of time between the two verses. Either way, this only becomes a problem when you err, and place God inside of the human restraints to understanding box. If He’s truly omnipotent, then this problem evaporates. What is the definition of a “DAY” anyway? By our cosmic understanding, it is the length of time it take for the earth to make a full rotation on its axis. The sun, moon, and stars do not operate on the same “DAY” definition. Maybe he made the stars in one full rotation of THE UNIVERSE, which could be many billions of years. Bottom line, maybe start defending your beliefs based on the omnipotence of the Creator. People who are looking for a scientific explanation of how this may have occurred are ask us to argue from the impossible position of an assumption that we know things that our scientists and astrologers are light years from knowing themselves. This is simply reductio ad absurdum, which is best answered with an absurd answer, aka, God is Omnipotent. Absurd? Yes, but also true.
Great video! I'm so sorry you struggled with this for years. I heard your same conclusion almost 15 years ago by Dr. Kent Hovind on a VHS tape. You should look him up, alot of what I see creationists struggle with Dr. Hovind has reasonable hypothesis from the 90s to today. Be blessed!
The person who calls himself 'Dr.Kent Hovind' has no qualifications that would entitle him to do so. He does not have a University Degree, let alone a Doctorate.
@@bigblukiwi yes yes of course Sir Cox but I dare say.. there are many who have degrees yet are as sharp as marbles. If your measure of a mans knowledge is primarily based upon the "Authority" argument then I shan't agree with you. Entitlement is the entire issue here I dare say good man! Listen to a mans words and judge him so forth and not by his title, those pesky letters like phd, (philosophical degree) which cost only the family farm to obtain. I will listen to the man who seeks out the Truth and not the one who is select by glorious titles only, mostly devoid of logic. Was it not Einstein who said that the Scientist makes a horrible philosopher? PHD you say ol'boy... mine apologies for the 18th century pose old chap, unfortunately i have been quite engaged in documentaries appearing here on youtube involving such speech. Cheers!
@@bigblukiwi Yea, totally. He's just a school teacher. He thinks that gives him credentials to debate the best scientists in the world. Unbelievable arrogance. He also got busted for tax evasion. What a fraud.
firstly how long does a complete rotation of our galaxy take? they can measure it, 250 million years given the age of our galaxy it has only done a few full rotations.
@Zeph53nz Actually, I have researched the meaning....many people who are experts in ancient Hebrew have done do....and it literally means a 24 hour day. Go on line and you should easily find this for yourself. I do not expect you to take my word for it.
Do we have any understanding/formula/insight etc, what happens with light within space that is rapidly expanding? Does it also stretch at the same rate? Kinda like drawing a line on a balloon and as you inflate balloon it stretches the line at the rate of the expansion. Even conventional science says that "Big Bang" expanded millions times faster than speed of light. If light within that expending space also stretches wouldn't that explain it? After all doesn't Bible repeatedly say that God stretched the heavens?
Yes, the light becomes red-shifted to the degree of the expansion. However, the universe was so dense at that point of initial expansion that light didn't propagate long distances. It was not until 370,000 years after the big bang that photon decoupling occurred and the universe was transparent enough to allow light to travel. Yet, that still does not explain the distant starlight problem as there were not stars forming until another 150 million years.
So sustaining consistently changes the equation at every point where re sustaining begins away from the original point of beginning of creation so each time sustentation comes to yield the factor ,the provision changes , I would hate that accounting job .
Could be they are close, we've been told the stars are old. I'd love to see some pictures, actually videos of these constellations planets, etc. I think talk is cheap, give me real facts. Videos not drawing. If we're spinning and flying so fast through space, why don't we EVER see new stars, NEVER, the ancients saw these same stars. All he gave theories, guesses. Where are the facts.
We do see new stars. They can even date ancient ritual structures (like stone henge, pyramids ect) based on how long ago specific stars lined up during the solstices. Do some real research.
When I first saw the (alleged) NASA photo of planet Pluto, I immediately noticed the silhouette of Disney's cartoon character of Mickey Mouse's dog Pluto. Looks like the jokes on people who weren't Disney cartoon fans.
Robert H. Stein has a good summary in one of his books on how the belief or lack of in miracles will inevitably decide which direction you turn with the first step of your journey, and ultimately where you will end up. Lutheran Satire has a humorous cartoon on that subject called Conal and Donal meet Richard Dawkins. My favorite line from it is the joke about disproving the existence of Barium by throwing out the few definitive samples of Barium on hand. GOD is real, Toledots are history, Genesis is Real
Expansion doesn't mean everything is moving away from each other. If that what true you would be expanding away from your cellphone right now. Expansion occurs when gravity becomes too weak. Things are expanding as a balloon's surface expands.
If life came existence by chance, it could be made to occur in the lab. But WAK how mind bendingly complicated even single cell organisms are. Over many, many years no scientist on Earth has been able to propose a procedure to make life happen. The best that's ever been done is to come up with a component or two of DNA. Making that into DNA and life is an unimaginably difficult task that only atheists can believe is possible!
I love this channel but the content for this one is incorrect and irrelevant. Halton Arp showed that cosmic redshift is intrinsic and not Doppler effect. Redshift is therefore meaningless as a measure of distance. Ultimately, cosmic distances are unknown-any related discussions around time/distance are meaningless. If not conversant with Arp’s (stunning) work, any presumptive expert can be ignored.
I'm not saying that Arp is wrong but among astronomers, his ideas are not respected. I'm all in favor of one man being right while all the rest are wrong. As a creationist, I'm used to that, so thank you for your addition to the discussion.
I'm a creationist and a big fan of your channel. However, I have to say that this video was disappointing. Dr. Faulkner is not my favorite creationist scientist. Most of the video was filled with extraneous material that had nothing to do with the topic. In the end, he had not actual explanation except to appeal to the miraculous, which only provokes laughter from the secularists and atheists. There are much better actual explanations for this seemingly thorny issue for creationists. It's a shame that you did not present a video that actually presented some real answers. Very disappointing.
Agree. I have a feeling that the deception of the reality of the makeup of our planet (or whatever you want to call it) extends much further and goes much deeper than most think. Personally, I don't see how you can successfully reconcile the Biblical firmament with scores of giant gaseous orbs of light that are "millions of light years away" (or more), but that's just my opinion. We must accept that we, as created beings in our fallen flesh, have limited understanding, and won't know even a fraction of a fraction about our reality this side of eternity. Fortunately, we don't have to for salvation. God bless.
The Hebrew word for day has several meanings, e.g one means a long period of time. Imo there is no way the earth is only 6k years old. Billions of years is what we should be looking at.
At 4:26 when he quotes Genesis by saying that "it was a process", this is not written in the Bible like that. The "process" of plants sprouting out of the ground took one day. Or maybe you don't believe that God can do what we can't rationalize?
JohnChaneyIII, the term "one day" is not defined to be the same duration as We call a Day....There was some mention that a genesis day was a thousand of today's years.....
@@eastky1901 on the first day he made the heavens and the earth,on the fourth day the moon,sun and stars......so he designed them from the earths location and possibly cast them afar in an instant? Stretched them away from earth?
I think ziggy2009 completely missed what this guy was saying. He wasn't trying to make science fit the creation belief, or as he put it in the well worn out vernacular, fairy tale. Quite the opposite. He said science and physics cannot explain the miraculous. They are 2 separate things.
@@md4843 Everyone has a world view and looks for things to validate their beliefs, be they atheists or believers in a Holy God. Agnostics are worse off in the end. They have nothing to believe in re their eternal destiny. Straddling a fence is no way to go through life.
@@md4843 Preconceived ideas? That's one if the most retarded statements ever. Scientific Fact, Carbon 14, Geology. All pseudo science ehh... Next you'll be telling me the South American Sloth managed to crawl across the Continent, crawl across Africa due to Pangaea or Gondwana to get to boat that housed every species on the planet. So much for Genetic Diversity. Unfortunately they broke up tens of millions of years ago and the Atlantic Ocean was created.
''Can You bind the chains of the Pleiades? Or loose the Chords of Orion? Tell me Job since _you know.''_ ~ 38:31 The Pleiades is a bound cluster, and Orion's belt is flying apart! Now HOW would Job KNOW this?? Well now ..he must REALLY HAVE talked to God :D
Of course.
God knows and tells those He speaks to. I wouldn't trust an a-Thiest that talks to another a-Theist, and neither believe in God when He foretold the end from the beginning that only those who He allows to live will live. Most atheists die horribly they say. Cursing, illnesses, fear and trembling, gnashing teeth and claiming God is a madman and evil. *If God is non-existent, why call Him names*
God is visible to those who have eyes to see; Rom 1:20
@S P ~ l have never been so in awe of Gods majesty until The Lord revealed that book to me! ''Can you command a morning? Or put the dawn in its place?'' What a wonderful diatribe showing the insignificance of human effort! lts just ASTOUNDING when The Holy Spirit reveals things about God that are mindblowing! The WORDS He uses are ....STUPENDOUS! They really can make people understand what The FEAR of God really means! _ALL GLORY_ goes to The KING of kings, and LORD of lords! :)
The Pleiades will not stay gravitationally bound forever. The major constellations, including Orion, are not even a thing as their stars are not related to the same system, so pretty well every constellation is moving apart and forming other configurations.
@@haggismcbaggis9485 ~ ''But Who are you oh man'' that you should talk back to HIM that created you?'' ~ Romans 9:20 NO ...it will NOT stay together forever, but it WILL stay together for as long as HE ordains! HE is going to UN-create it at the time that He has decreed. btw...HE did _not_ use science to create HIS creation. He did it by means of the miraculous. Just like He did when He raised Lazarus ...and Himself from the dead because HE has the Keys to Life, death, and Hades. Actually He has declared the He _IS_ life itself. Go read Job 38 just for the heck of it, and if it doesnt move you ...than you were not 'chosen' and your eyes are double blinded by God, and the Evil one. ''The Gospel is foolishness to those that are perishing, but to those who are SAVED it is the POWER of GOD'' ~ 1 Corinthians !:18 l will pray for you Haggis that you ASK, and you too will be saved. lt is thee most Amazing thing in all creation, the mercy of Jesus! :)
Okay, I will read Job 38 again.
God isn’t ruled by nature, He rules over the creation.....
If you create something...you live outside of it.
@@timhallas4275 Jesus Christ walked on water, raised the dead, told the wind in the sea to be still and they obeyed him. He also went to the cross willingly to pay for your sins and mine. I don’t know if God had to change any of the laws of physics to do that but he certainly could have if he wanted to.
@@timhallas4275 Yes.
@@timhallas4275 You wouldn’t expect different authors to all write the same thing Jesus did many things each author chose what to write about. In the gospel of John chapter 21 verse 25 says That there were many other things that Jesus did that were not written down.
@@timhallas4275 John 8:…23Then He (Jesus)told them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24That is why I told you that you would die in your sins. For unless you believe that I am He (The Christ), you will die in your sins.” 25“Who are You?” they asked. “Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied.… Tim Hallas ,,,,don’t be like the Pharisees Who rejected Christ and his redemption by refusing to believe him.
I own a cheap telescope and even this instrument reveals some amazing sights. The Living GOD is an Artist w/no equal, not even a close second. I long to see the things The Lord has prepared for those who love HIM. The earth will be filled w/the knowledge of The Lord. When the sons of GOD are revealed the curse placed on creation (because of our sin) will be taken away & we will see awesome things we can't even imagine today. Even so Lord return quickly. Please keep sharing the work you do in revealing "The handy work of GOD". Even now HE has mercy on those who repent and believe on HIM.
you mean there are more sons besides Jesus?
Even without a telescope it doesn’t take a super genius mind to look at the final phase crescent sliver moon at sundown and tell that it is a spherical object lit up by the sun.
If the moon is clearly a sphere why should the earth or anything else be flat?
@@michaelszczys8316 but is you believe the moon is shining light instead of reflecting, that notice goes out of the window.
Like I said in the first place you can see and tell that it is a spherical ball shaped object lit up by the sun. You can clearly see the angle of the location of the sun in relation to the way it is lit. If it were flat it would go from the edge being lit to a full lit moon in like one day.
The universe is far more interesting without god.
Isaiah 48:13 says He stretched out the heavens like a tent. That alone would create distance and thus, time.
And trying to repack this tent he's opened is gonna be a huge pain in the neck. I know, let's just flood everything and start again with a wooden boat
@@jasonbull3987 🔥 everything gets a hot reset
@@jasonbull3987 ooooo, zing!!
These videos have made it abundantly clear that we do NOT know as much about dating the earth and fossils as we have been led to believe for decades. Perhaps we do not know as much as we THINK we do about light and space as well.
“"He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing.”
Job 26:7
Ot maybe the stars were not, nor are not as far away as we think
@@scotennis609 - Or maybe God speaks the truth in Genesis 1 and the stars were created on the fourth day and God "stretched out the heavens," as He says over and over in His Word and also Einstein was right. The stars were created on the fourth day, less than 6000 years ago and their clocks were adjusted by the stretching of the universe.
Yay! God's Word wins again! Scientific evidence supports the Genesis creation narrative. Yep. Always does.
Yes
@@scotennis609 maybe you need to learn some astrophysics or keep your mouth shut about topics you know nothing about
@@rubiks6 yeah every single facet of Genesis has been proven wrong time and time again. The technology you use everyday Works only because the facts we know and those facts disprove Genesis
Did not God say in his word that he stretched out the heavens?
No, man's word made claims no one can verify
@@sodaht2296 Are you saying the Bible is not the word of God? Do you really want to put that in writing considering the potential ramifications?
@@dompalmer7606 it has never been demonstrated as such.
All we have is a compilation of books written by men, primitive men, who knew absolutely nothing about the real world. (we have Science for that)
@@sodaht2296 You mean like the science that says the earth is billions of years old and everything came from nothing in a big bang. One day an ameba grew legs and walked out of the primordial soup an diversified into all the kinds of species that exist. And now, after millions of years, science now says that humanity is faced with extinction level pandemic and everybody must conform to an authoritarian system of control or be considered as selfish, irresponsible and a threat to the whole. You can have you science. I'll put my faith in the word my heavenly father who promised he would preserve for me.
@@dompalmer7606 faith is a dishonest and useless position - to believe for no good reason in the absence of evidence
For the question in the title, I think the relativity of simultaneity could be the answer. "In physics, the relativity of simultaneity is the concept that distant simultaneity - whether two spatially separated events occur at the same time - is not absolute, but depends on the observer's reference frame."
Who or what are you quoting?
I did not understand how the light from distant stars can be sped up. Even provided that it is a miracle, if the speed of light changes, it affects nearly everything else in our physical framework. Can the Universe even remain stable if the lightspeed begins to change? The miracle of the lightspeed changing requires a large number of other miracles to happen in parallel to make a consistent whole.
You answered your own question 😀
Why do you think Jesus spat in the clay and put it in the blind man's eyes to heal him?
Exactly, Juha-Petri. Their explanation is garbage.
Contraction and expansion in a 3+1 hypersurface vacuum expansion can occur with gravitational waves. The light speed barrier becomes irrelevant if the distance can shorten and expand without effecting rate of travel.
You can take longer to reach the same destination at the same speed depending on how space time has been stretched out.
But this is only a potential explanation for some observances, not all
Personally I'd recommend Robert H. Stein's statement on Miracles and how belief in or against them is what will inevitably determine which direction the first step in your journey takes, and ultimately your final destination.
Lutheran Satire has a very humorous video on the subject called Conal and Donal meet Richard Dawkins, my favorite line is the joke about disproving the existence of barium in a laboratory setting simply by throwing away the few samples they definitively had on hand.
@@modakkagitplugga, so far all observed deformations of spacetime have been waves, returning cyclically to the original state in a short time. The space-deforming waves are so faint that we need top-level instruments to detect them even though the natural phenomena creating them are of cataclysmic scale, like colliding black holes.
This is very different from the whole observable universe to rescale itself and stay that way.
Even supposing that such a space deformation has happened, we are still not off the hook, because such deformations do not disappear without leaving traces, a record of the things happened that we can read from the sky when the light of them reaches our eyes. Space cannot change without us seeing it happen.
I don't know how God created everything but I know he did it no questions asked.
In total agreement with you. Do you reckon asking how he did it is a problem?
That's fine idea, comparing star light appearing to the earth bringing forth plants and animals. Animals simply formed out of the waters and ground as full grown creatures. It certainly was miraculous. The entire creation event was entirely miraculous of God.
On the 3rd day the plants before the sun
on the 4th day the sun, moon, stars
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind
So God simply created everything as new but also matured, full grown, as if it took a long time to get there, so why not starlight.
Best video I have seen in a long time. I know a mighty GOD.
@Bill…that He CAN be known…on a personal level…and that WE know Him…AMAZING!! 🙏🏼❤️🕊🔥
HALLELUJAH!!
MARANATHA!!
What's he look like? I wonder what language he'll speak
In the beginning when God said let there be light he didn't say Let There Be Darkness for 10 million years until the light shows up. There was light immediately.
Right. We can see the light of the stars because it has always been here.
Daniel ~ AMEN! The people that think its''up for debate'' are right about debating with one another, but ''debating'' God is a fools errand! Remember Job 38? And he was a _righteous_ man! _ALL GLORY_ goes to The KING of kings, and LORD of lords!
@Roll tide Roll ~ l think you're being a bit irreverent, as well as naive. God says what He means, and means what He says. lf you dont accept the 6 days of creation, then when exactly does His word ''kick in'' for you? He decided to TELL us the Truth about creation so we would BELIEVE. Not so He could get a ''chuckle'' at the expense of ''righteous'' men such as Enoch ...who never died, but was walked straight into heaven because He ''walked with God for _three hundred years!_ ALL GLORY goes to The KING of kings, and LORD of lords.
@@theresa42213 well said
In fact, it is naive to think that God, being immortal, only created something 6,000 years ago. It is entirely possible that galaxies are millions of years old, since their creator is infinitely older than that.
Not to mention that nowhere in Genesis does it speak of the creation of the universe, only of the creation of this planet, the Earth.
Adam and Eve were created as mature humans as was the garden they lived in. It is not hard to believe the universe was created as a mature universe.
How mature? The earth is billions of years old! Modern man is rather new!
@@tulsaguy9963 yet you have no proof that the earth is billions of years old
My thoughts as well.
It's not a debate. The Earth is 4.5 billion yrs old. The evidence is overwhelming.
@@scottmoore7417 ...the speculation and creative imagination in support of an earth billions of years old, is overwhelming.
With questions about time, I've found it helpful to assume that time was created during Genesis 1:1. We are currently locked in time and cannot comprehend the absence of time.
Time is relative. For example, in Chicago, as I write this, it's about 8am, where as in Waterloo Iowa, it's 1997.
Waterloo Iowa is stuck back in 1997? I can do one better. In Santa Cruz, it is still the 1960's.
Too funny! I got a good chuckle thank you!
I'm movin' to Iowa then. The 2000s suck.
And the minds of most theists are stuck back in 200 AD
@@brendanl2580 most evolutionists believe in a man who traveled on a sail boat and didn't even know the big bang existed when the Bible knew the big bang existed from the moment it said that God spoke light in the beggining
Its been created that way. There is no way everything came together in the universe then earth and life on earth by accident. Everything has to be exactly the way it is or we never lived
How did this guy get a PH.D? 🌝
Majority of these people have no credibility in the scientific community it's not all of them don't
Kurt wise alone is a laughing stock of geology
What is your Ph.D. in?
@@sodaht2296 So, Isaac Newton has no credibility?
@@donaldmorgan1773 irrelevant, Issac Newton.
Different times
@@donaldmorgan1773 a lot of these religious liars use their "education" to push an agenda
Science is base on the stuff we can see and observe. There's alot more to it than than that.
If that is science then weve been told lies from scientists for a long time. They have no data from millions of years ago so no such truthes can come from there results
@@jamesgrant5563 Yes we have been lied to.
_"Science is base on the stuff we can see and observe."_
Correct. That's why it's factual.
The Bible is not science.
@@jamesgrant5563
_"They have no data from millions of years ago..."_
That's completely false.
Come on. All that is relied on is a technology that has no evidence. Where is the sample that is a known age without testing by carbon dating that is this brainwashing age of a million years old. Scientists have been paid to lie. Free your self from the box, and look outside.
God can do what God wants to do. We are his children. He bends life and death . You can die but live on again in hell or heaven . That’s power
God is all powerful. He can do anything. People say he can't make a square circle, I don't believe that. I believe he can make a square circle, but if he did it would be beyond your comprehension. For example, the tesseract, if it does in fact exists, is beyond your comprehension and imperceptible to you as a "tesseract" because it can't fully exist in the dimensional plane in which our perceivable reality exists.
God does not promise "hell" or "heaven" as rewards.
"Hell" is "the grave, pit, hole in the ground".
"Heaven" is the "high places", the sky, the expanse where celestial bodies are, and the unseen Higher abode of the Father.
The promise of eternal life and its opposite, eternal death, is what is spoken of repeatedly.
There is no fiery tortured existence burning a person who can never die.
God Almighty is not a sadist, not the demon inspired Molech/Moloch.
He is just and merciful.
As they say on donut media. MO POWA BABY
Dark Matter is a plug number to make the math work...
Dark matter is spiritual matter, you can’t see it but it’s there!
exactly ...and the theory of relativity is a bunch of long winded stuff written to try and discount the Michelson - Morley experiment in 1887 that proved the earth is stationary .
With electromagnetism taken into account, there is no galaxy rotation problem and no need for dark matter. Dark matter doesn't exist.
It's the Stars that shine for you, and it's the stars that lie to you.
God can certainly speed up the processes which in natural would take ages.
9:00 Well said Danny, "Science addresses the natural world and miracles are supernatural and you cannot use scientific method to discuss miracles"
God is not just linear indeed.
Sometimes God uses natural means to accomplish His miracles.
I always remember reading a news article when I was a teen, it was about a church in Mexico I think where one night all the statues ( Catholic ) in the church all turned to face the statue of the baby Jesus and they said it was a miracle. It later said that scientists found that an earthquake occurred in that area which rocked the church just right to make all the statues rock and just so happen to turn and face Jesus.
I remember thinking “ maybe that is how God turned all the statues, He used an earthquake just right and not His hand “.
I later learned of many other things done this way by God and most of them set in motion way back at the creation.
In this video they were talking about starlight taking many many years to get to earth, I believe God created Stars way out in space with light from them already traveling across the universe as if they were there for thousands of years.
Like not only creating a 747 jumbo jet in full running condition but creating a 747 jumbo jet in running condition with 3000 hours of running time on it all hot wailing across the sky at 30,000 ft with a long jet trail behind it as if it had been there.
""Science addresses the natural world and miracles are supernatural and you cannot use scientific method to discuss miracles".
On that basis anyone can literally claim anything. I mean literally anything. Then if science rukles it out, the claimant simply says "it's supernatural".
Do you really think that's reasonable.
For example : Angels visited me last night, and I floated up to Mars, where i played football with aliens.
Clearly that's outside of scientific possibility, so I claim it as supernatural. Do you then believe it? If not, why not? Just because you choose to believe in the bible rather than me? On what basis? I'm telling you I know it happened.
@@michaelszczys8316 "I remember thinking “ maybe that is how God turned all the statues" - then you decided to believe in that thought? Blimey. Your bar for truth is set very low. Very very low.
My bar is just fine. Your bar for proving there is no God is set way too high.
There is another biblical point that is seldom addressed. I have a relative who believes the miracles, specifically of the Old Testament, to be the makings of fairy tales. But if we had the Word of an omnipotent God who did no miraculous signs or wonders, that would seriously put into doubt his omnipotence. We NEED these miracles in order to understand God's power. And if an unbeliever read a bible that had no miraculous signs, he or she would be less inclined to put any trust in that god. In the same way, we need the miracle of starlight to show us just how powerful God is. Starlight, in and of itself, is a miracle---plain and simple---because we shouldn't be able to see it at all except for the sun and some very close stars. I have no problem "bumping into" a miracle when it comes to discussing science because the rules that science has discovered also come from God who is the only one who can either bend or break those rules.
Isn't it possible that Light travels instantly from its source and takes time to reflect back? Hence the "speed of light" just being the measurement of a light source to and from a measuring system?
The speed of light has nothing to do with light!
You would know that, if you actually understand what the speed of light actually ment, and how it firmly proves that the universe, and this planet is very old!!!
Have you measured the speed of light outside the gravitational distortion of our solar system?🤔 Maybe you don’t know as much as you think you do.
You don't just have a starlight problem, but a matter travel problem with the collision of galaxies and jets proceeding from the cores. I personally think we require a paradigm shift. Isaiah 34:4 says that the host of heaven will be destroyed in an act of falling like leaves and fruit. I believe the solution in solving many mysteries is a new theory of gravity. If you are interested, then I"ve posted a video on that subject along with other concepts that are fueled by seeing design in creation.
I listened to this twice. I think these two guys make a great argument that creationism is a foolish thing to believe.
Why?
@Darren - I wish you did understand Einstein's theory of Special Relativity. I would use it to tell you how much you are on the right track. Time does not pass at the same rate under different conditions. Stars created four days after the Earth can pass through thousands, millions, or even billions of years when God stretched out the heavens while the Earth only experienced the fourth day.
Perhaps you've heard of the twin paradox (it's not really a paradox) where one twin gets in a rocket and flies away near the speed of light, turns around and comes back and discovers that his twin brother is now an old man while the trip only seemed to take a day for the twin in the rocket. Same principle with the Earth and the stars.
Einstein's theory of Special Relativity is indeed true and as a Christian who believes in the creation narrative in the Bible, I am really glad that it is.
@@rubiks6, that's not how special relativity works.
@@ryanhedrick2841 - Unless you explain your response, I'm going to tell you that's exactly how special relativity works. It is meaningless to deny my hypothesis without any supporting argument or evidence.
@@rubiks6, no more meaningless than to propose it unsupported.
I was raised to believe in a young earth but as I grew older my love of science and young earth dogma clashed, science won.
There is so much about the world that makes no sense in a young earth perspective.
Most likely tho this comment will be removed or drowned out by those who claim to love to hear peoples testimonies until it contradicts their beliefs.
Hey, I'm with you brother (or sister). The depths these people go to to hold on to their young-earth dogma is just astonishing.
Are you a Christian? I want to hear your opinion. Do you believe the Bible points to a young or old earth?
@@lyssalouise2705 Hi Alyssa. Yes, it describes an old earth.
@akrebsie your post is typical of evolution, defenders, using the same approach over and over and over.
You make sweeping statements about how your belief system is correct. But you don’t mention any science. They don’t either.
You, and they, evade dealing with any of the topics of science brought up in a creation video. You don’t try to refute them, not even on one point.
Yet you think you’re being really scientific while you say zero about science!
And by the way, even if the universe would be billions of years old, that would give absolutely no support for the evolution theory.
We can see what’s happening right here on this planet with real science and logic. And it shows that there is no way the human beings came from bacteria or fish or Lucy.
For just one of countless example, Richard Dawkins says you came from bacteria. What does the actual data show on this planet earth?
Bacteria have been observed since 1670 and they have produced billions of generations since then. Ancient fossilized examples have been found.
Not one of them has ever been shown to be anything but bacteria in their bacterial domain, no matter how much it changes. There ain’t any transitions.
So don’t think that believing in an old universe means that you came from a bacteria. That is all pseudo sub science garbage.
Wake up. Find out who you really are.
"The fool has said in his heart, " There is no God.""
Whole lotta fools these days then 🤔
@@CJ-222 yep
The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going.
-proverbs 14:15
If a fool can figure it out, why not you?
@@theshadow4737 because of the verse I quoted. They are too simple to examine what they've been spoon fed
Creation narrative in Genesis is composed of two strands: one describes the process of creation starting with "Let there be light...", (scientists call this the big bang), accompanying this creation narrative is the second narrative which culminates in Seventh Day Shabbat rest, these two narratives are intertwined together as is melody and rhythm in a piece of music.
The repetitive "And it was evening and morning..." is the rhythm section, its purpose is to introduce the 7th day Shabbat, this does not impose earthly 24hr time on the creation narrative.
It is unnecessary for Christians to insist on 6 x 24hr creation, but we are to maintain that creation emerges perfectly formed from the moment of its appearance.
Fossil evidence confirms that creation appeared perfectly formed, there is no evidence of evolution from so called lower forms, there is adaptation, but there is no species transition.
Hebrew word for "day" does not necessarily mean 24 hr earthly time, the meaning allows for very long earthly time, consistent with scientific observation.
Crucial point to defend for Christians is that creation is "very good" from the get go, and does not evolve across species boundaries.
Regarding nature of Man: Man is the embodied breath of Life, this breath of Life is our mind. Man consists of: physical body, the mind, and language. The physical body is me, the mind is me, the word is me, a triune unity.
The Bible is complex. Scientists cannot figure out the universe let alone the Scriptures'. They are still unsure of many microbiological subtractions and reactions that somehow maintain balance in our own body. Which is rather susceptible to disease yet highly sustainable and implausibly regenerative. It's degradative yet regerantive. Mind blowing.
We are the only creation s that do not process Vit C, along with monkeys and another few. This is a poor way to prove evolutionism, however they have an a deer for it I'm sure.
Ah yes, the old "God just did it" explanation. No need for a 20 minute video. It literally could have been a 10 second video. "How can a star be 10 million light years away but we can see its light now if the universe is less than 10 thousand years old? God did it. The end."
Sarcastic or not that explanation is 1000 times more coherent than the impossible big bang model.
It’s one thing to believe God did it, and another to believe it did it entirely on its own. The Bible says that God stretched out the heavens, so saying “God did it” wouldn’t be a last-ditch attempt at saving creationism like you make it out to be. It’s in the scripture, and it beats the hell out of evolutionism.
I know this is years old but I still think it must be said , yes it did indeed happen all on its own .
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@the bible isn't a history book matthewhollier
That wine making was such a glorious miracle.
I’m kinda partial to the strength hair & the talking donkey. Those are a couple of my favorite magics in the bible.
God matured creation rapidly. Excellently put makes perfect sense.
We can see the light from stars because it's always been here. Job 9:8 says God "Stretched out the heavens". This implies the universe was much more dense in the past (secularists would agree). If the universe was much more dense than it is today, the light was at one point already here. For the light to not be here, the expansion of the universe would have had to have been faster than the speed of light. It could have been as fast as the speed of light or faster and we couldn't know the difference.
אמת.
Acc to the kabbalistic tradition of whats called מעשה בראשית in the 2nd perek of chagiga, the ramban explains quoting from Sefer haBahir (midrash of rebbe Nuchunia ben Hakaneh) how creation actually unfolded, and what you wrote goes in line exactly with whats written.
Of course this can't be definitively proven, but we do know that gravity affects how fast Time progresses and thus the speed of light. The further out of our gravity well that Earth sits in, the "faster Time" progresses. We know that our satellites register Time going faster than for us. I forget the exact difference, but it's like 1 sec on Earth is matched by ~1.0000003 seconds for the satellites. How much faster is Time outside of our solar system? How much faster between the stars? Or outside the galaxies? What if......it only takes a day or so for light to travel from anywhere to anywhere? Just a fun personal theory. ;)
As a kid, I always got in trouble for speaking against the big bang. The idea of it defies the most basic laws of physics. 1) everything should be traveling at the exact same speed 2) since space is a vacuum, solar systems could never be formed because we'd still be hurling through space - there's more reasons but I'll stop for now
@@IIrandhandleII go troll someone from your own country!
What do you think about space itself that is expanding rather than objects being blasted through space?
What ever happened to the eather?
Not to mention the waters from above and below!!!
@@FR_THPEPL
Still there....
Inflation and general relativity can actually be used to argue for a young universe.
Since time is relative, and the deeper you are inside a gravitational well, the slower it passes for you, and since in the early universe everything was close together, causing the most massive gravitational well in all of the universe's history (the singularity from which the universe supposedly expanded from), then from our perspective today, far above in the "average" gravitational well of the universe, looking at the distant past by observing light, it would appear to be much, much older, but just because time was running slower then. Just like if you look at an object falling into a black hole, it will appear to you as if it was moving slower.
It means there are some parameters that could be applied to Einstein's field equations, where both statements: "from my frame of reference, the universe appears to be billions of years old" and "from my frame of reference, the universe appears to be a few thousand years old" are simultaneously true.
If I still was up to date with my tensor calculus, I would give it a shot at finding these parameters. Something tells me they will be remarkably close to the conditions of the inflationary period.
and yet, you are wrong.
If you think you are right, do the actual research and publish that paper.
@@ozowen the fact that there are parameters that cause the two statements to be simultaneously true is that, a FACT. There is absolutely no debate to be had here.
My suggestion that the value could be close to how the universe was during the inflationary period is an educated guess, a "Fermi estimation", as it is called, based upon the Lorentz factor between the times involved and the approximate size of the universe during the reionization epoch.
I would love to waste weeks of my life solving field equations to prove an illiterate atheist on TH-cam wrong. But I actually wouldn't.
@@matheusdardenne
1) I'm not an atheist.
2) Although you proclaim your conclusions as "not to be debated" the fact is that they are not only not considered, they are also such that you have no faith in them yourself. As I said- do the research, publish the paper or simply retreat into the background with your BS.
@@ozowen
If you're not an atheist, then it is even worse. You would at least have that as an excuse for being scientifically illiterate. There is no excuse for a Christian not to understand stabilished science.
Secondly, I am completely confident that the values would be approximate, because as I said, this is a Fermi estimation made upon known values. I am running a business, pushing over 100 work hours a week, but let's do it that way: you pay me 70 dollars an hour, for two weeks, and I will calculate it for you. Deal?
Some of the writings in scripture are from the perspective of men , so what you get is from a earth perspective , and not meant to be taken as scientific fact , but is spiritual in its focus.
Historical. That's is what Genesis primary function is, history.
2 Timothy 3:16
A day is a unit of time based on the length of time which elapses between the Sun reaching its highest point in the sky two consecutive times. How is it that 4 days passed before the sun was created, if a day cannot exist without the sun?
Maybe a day to God is different than a day to Man.
@@dodibenabba1378 There is no reason to think that. God told Noah that it was going to rain 40 days and 40 nights. How long did it rain for? God said that the temple would be rebuilt in 3 days.. How long did that take?
@@righty-o3585 John 2:19-21 “19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 21But he spake of the temple of his body.”
@@jeffpeff Why are you quoting the Bible to me? You can't use the Bible to prove the Bible. That's not how that works. That is no different than saying YES HUH, BECAUSE I SAID SO.
@@righty-o3585 Because it answered your question.
Berry Setterfield’s work on light and How it is directly associated with ZPE, explains a lot concerning light. He found Zero point energy as it increases is directly proportional to light actually slowing down. As the universe is being stretched (like a rubber band) generating energy in the form of waves which collide to create matter. When the peak waves move apart they convert back to energy. Think of two waves in the sea colliding and where they intersect forms a crests creating a white cap That becomes visible. As the waves continue on, The wave energy dissipates and the white cap disappears. In a similar manor, In the brief moment of time ZPE waves collide, it becomes a particle and captures the photons acting like a hurdle for the photon slowing it down. This is why matter seems to appear from nowhere Then disappears again. String theory was a result of observing these colliding waves. Their error was that they surmised matter was being drawn from another universe popping in and out of existence From one dimensions to another. “Again secular scientists trying to justify their worldview.” If it is impossible for life to exist because of laws of probability, then if I have an infinite number of universes, my probability improves. In essence, “if I just add more time I can justify evolution”......Anyway, The more hurdles the photon encounters the slower the beam of light. The less tension there is on the fabric of space the lower or the longer the waves. The more tension we put on the fabric like a rubber band increases the potential and shortens the wave intervals, thus the frequency of peak wave collisions increase. We have been taught that The speed of light is a constant, which is provably not true. Light could actually get to the earth instantaneously, it could take five minutes 10 minutes our 1000 years we just don’t know. There are several experiments conducted recently, where it’s has been demonstrated you can stop light dead in its tracks And start the photon up again. They’ve Slowed it down to 35 miles an hour. Light refraction in water also shows that light actually slows down according to the medium is traveling through. These all demonstrate the speed of light is associated or can be affected by the medium it travels through. The Bible even gives us a clue when it says the heavens can be worn out, stretched, torn, folded, etc. Nothing is supposed to be able to travel faster than the speed of light but physics reveals that you can effect one particle on one side of the universe and instantaneously affect others across the universe That can’t happen unless everything is connected for example. If I put a pen mark on a sheet of paper and I put my finger on the other side I move the mark instantaneously as I move my finger and the sheet under it. In a similar way the fabric of space works. As the fabric is stretched it gains more potential energy increasing ZPE. The expectation then is that if the universe is continually expanding or as God puts it “he stretches out the heavens“ is that light in the past would have been instantaneous or exponentially faster than it is today. Another question we need to solve is the red shift. The red shift can no longer be attributed to expansion of the universe. We have now found galaxies where the red shift occurs in the middle of a spiral galaxy. If the red shift is caused by expansion then how can occur in the middle of an organized galaxy. We should observe a galaxy being ripped apart not an orderly spiral as it is observed today. What that would conclude is that the red shift could be caused by something other than a Doppler effect. I would suggest we may be looking at early light wave when the ZPE waves were longer and the universe had less tension. Another good physicists to look into if you want to understand how the universe formed and how it works is David Lapointe’s premier field theory. He demonstrates gravitational forces are the effect of magnetic bowls formed by a Z pinch. This Z pinch focuses energy in the form of plasma and converts it to matter. These magnetic fields created by the resulting “Primer Fields” even affect non-ferrous material. As energy is drawn through a central nul point, (note: Energy radiates out from the null point in two directions known as magnetic poles in waves expanding in ratios seen in Fibonacci sequence, The outer weaker part of these waves are then drawn back in to the center) solid matter and raw energy is drawn toward this flow of energy much like a floating object in a stream is drawn toward the heaviest flow. The only reason we do not get pushed down the stream is because matter has formed around the drain or like hard water builds up minerals which acts like a sifter where only raw energy seeps through. The matter and larger items remain on top as energy in the form of magnetic energy is drawn through the center and expelled through the pipe which runs along its axis. These magnetic bowls “primer fields” generate magnetic fields focus energy to the point it converts to matter but in a stable state unlike the colliding ZPE waves which peak and then dissipate. Unconverted energy continues to flow through a central point where the Z pinch occurred because it can travel through the matter as it is smaller. This current then draws the matter inward toward the center pipe. like an electric current passing through a wire creates what’s called Eddy currents. Which the planets and the moons are caught in. Each planet and moon are Cut in these Eddy currents or Birkeland current along the axial plane formed by the primer field bowls. If you’ve ever seen rapid moving water you might get a sense of this effect. Picture a whirlpool forming because there’s an obstruction. The water is not allowed to pass freely and it creates a whirl pool. Any sticks or debris that are floating around a specific distance can actually be repealed from being sucked into the center. While everything else within the event horizon is drawn inward. Gravitational forces and magnetism are nothing more than the flow of energy. Since flowing plasma has Tendrils or fibers much like muscles they interact with each other. They are called Birkeland currents. As the Z pinch is Forming, The outer filaments are collapsed into planets and moons, as it continues to compress these plasma filaments become so dense that enough energy flows through it to go into arc mode which is what creates nickel, iron and then all the other elements. Our sun is a result of a Z pinch that has happened in the center of multiple filaments that as they compressed formed planets and once it collapses enough went into a arc mode. Because energy flow is sustained the arc is sustained. Again like a drain having too much water poured through it, some will splash out in the form of electrons which then collide with the first thing it hits, creating fusion only at the surface. This is why when we look at the sun spots they are 4000° cooler which means the center of the sun is not the source of fusion as the gravity model would predict. We observe fusion is not being generated from inside but happening at the surface of the sun. Like all energy it will seek equilibrium that’s why an electron accelerates as it moves away from the sun. It’s equalizing potential. The flow direction of the plasma creates the poles and the magnetic fields created by the collapse of the filament not only generate an Eddie current causing the systems to revolve a certain way but it creates an axial plane in which they are trapped in. A spiral galaxy is created when two filaments are traveling in the same direction and they interact with each other. Other formations are created when two filaments collide going in opposite directions. All demonstrated in the lab. Recently they discovered that spiral galaxies centers are spinning at the same rate Is its outer planets. This is an impossibility if gravity is the causal force of planetary formation and galaxy formation. There is no such thing as a graviton or even gravitational force as we know it. It is merely the effect of energy and energy flow. This flow creates frequencies such as radio and light Like the amount of breath forms a note on a flute depending on the whole size and the amount of air passing across it. ............ capacitance resistance and vibration. This same mechanism explains galaxy formation, solar systems all the way down to atoms. What you see then in an electron microscope is a physical representation of the magnetic primer field bowls. A proton and a neutron may be nothing more than magnetic pole opposites. Recent studies have shown Z pinches can be created in water via sound waves. Looks like a star in water. Ironically as hot as the sun. (The sun is a plasmoid). There have been multiple plasma studies that have been able to reproduce every formation we see In galaxy formations. Sapphire project has even created many signs complete with solar flares and pole reversals. What is interesting to think about is that the Bible notes in the end God will simply let go and the earth and the universe will go up in flames with A fervent noise. The sun and stars will go dark. Guess what would happen if you stop the flow of energy?
It just occurred to me too that space might not be curved like Einstein Theorized. Light may be drawn to the planetary body due to the flow of energy. Have you ever seen the experiment where you rub a balloon on someone’s hair and then hold it next to a running faucet? Photons are merely a form of energy, it is likely they would interact with positively charged planets much like a balloon.
I also enjoyed Barry Setterfield's meta-research on the speed of light experiment data done over 100 years, and how it has dropped over time as the zero-point-energy of space changed over time. I'm sorry that I can't seem to find his web pages on the internet anymore ....
Is this a Doctoral thesis?
How can sound waves propagate through the universe when there is no air there?
Im jealous you can use that pointer.
In the beginning the earth was void and without form. It didn't say the earth was not here. Our beginning isn't the earths beginning and certainly not Gods.
Bingo. You don't have to believe in a young earth to be a bible believing Christian. The fact is we simply do not know. But the young earth idea just doesn't make sense to me.
What it ACTUALLY says is "In the BEGINNING god CREATED the heavens AND THE EARTH...."
But then the sun, moons, and stars didn't come along until the fourth day, so the order is all wrong.
Salt ..... the oceans would be even saltier than the Dead Sea if they were billions of years old.....
It's claimed that salt in the oceans combines with other minerals like calcium and forms sediment that become rock. That's what "they" say.
@@timothykeith1367 .... Thank you...
I’ve heard the same.... but considering the average depth of the oceans (approx 3 miles) versus the amount of bottom area that’s a lot of filtering vs the amount s of water.....
but like the soft tissue, blood cells etc now commonly found in fossils .... the reason given for not testing and finding it sooner was that it was impossible to be there ..... which they are correct it is impossible at the ages they believe...
Have a great day!!!!
The salton sea in california got toxic in like what 40 years?
The question in this video's title contains hidden presupposition that it is impossible to have young Earth in old Universe. Like “one cannot build a new house in an old town”. Why?
How do you have a young earth in an old universe?
@@billvigus3719 Are you serious? No matter if there was direct creation or there was an evolution, no law prohibits creation of new objects (stars, comets, planets…) in an old universe. Just like with buildings. Do you think it is impossible to build a new house in an old town? It is as simple as that.
@@januszlepionko I guess I'll rephrase, do you believe the earth is 6,000 years old in a 4.5 billion year old solar system?
@@billvigus3719My belief is irrelevant here.
Honestly, I just saw the title (in youtube's proposals) and did not watch the video. Just commented the title only.
Amazing how smart people can waste their time.
Its a waste of time anyway ,but its the idea of making it look useful ,build a greater pyramid ..oh yeah ..
Well, you didn't mention that a day for God is not a day for us. In fact isn't a day for the Lord compared to a thousand years for us? Also, most of the things you describe as happening defy the laws of physics - conservation of energy, mass, momentum the irreversible process of entropy, the speed of light etc. Your explanation is pure magic - one set of immutable laws to create and a second set of immutable laws to maintain -- this sounds like the irreconcilable differences between the Theory of Relativity and quantum mechanics - they both work well in their sphere but cannot be merged or compared.
God works well in every sphere.
I heard a thousand years is like one day for God. Does that mean Jonah was really in the whale for 3,000 years? Wow. I didn't know a man could live so long.
Jargon.
The stars are set in the firmament.
Question is...
How deep is the firmament?
A few Heavens deep. There is a point where all matter in earth and the Heavens is impassable through the firmament.
It states birds fly in the firmament, but there are differing firmaments. In Genesis. Separation of Waters and Heavens there is a heaven under the earth as well. Yet that does not mean we are capable of passing into it because it states there is waters below us and they are deep as well as a heart of the earth.
To state hollow earth spherical, would deny that God stated earth was flat, stationary and He set the Heaven in the expanse.
False scientism created spherical design but God stated otherwise.
I didn't think this one was one of the better episodes personally. He talks about believing uniformity in all cases being a risk but then applies a principle of uniformity to assume that God treated the stars the same way he treated plants, despite saying Creation is where uniformity breaks down...
Flawed thinking... "I reject it because I am a biblical creationist"... See, if you place your belief in how a thing works ahead of the evidence collected being allowed to guide your investigation you will learn nothing new, or even accurately. That's not how science works. That's how perpetuating a lie works. Assert a position and then cherry pick/misrepresent data such that it supports your presupposed assertion. We left the dark ages long ago, well, most of us.
@Will Theaxe Depends on what you allow the word 'proof' to include. The only 'proof' of God is the collection of stories called the Bible. But, if that is the case then there is every bit as much proof that a school for wizards called Hogwarts exists. Both books contain references to real places. And there are tons of people who would swear that witchcraft is a real thing. Not me, but there is quite a large population that believe in such powers. This is not evidence though. I was raised around religion, I went to christian schools, went to sunday school, sang hymns, etc. But it just never made sense. So, I gave it up. For one thing, I could never understand why a loving god would doom his creation to hell just for not loving him. That's not how love works. Or why did this loving god flood the world to kill everyone, including sinless newborns, save one single hand picked family. For that matter the whole ark thing makes 0 sense logistically.
Anyway, believe what you will, but evidence is not an ancient collection of myths written thousands of years ago, then edited down to justify the authority of popes and kings. That's just not how evidence works.
There is however plenty of evidence of how religions form, and gods are created and used, by man, for many thousands of years. It continues today, and began when some imaginative person, long ago, wanted to explain why things happened. What is lightning, must be a creature I cannot see. Why did Og die last night, mush have been some creature I did not see, and left no tracks, no marks. Why did happen? Must have been a god. And when someone else wanted to control that population they tapped into their beliefs, said 'if you do this, for me, then the god of whatever will reward you'. And this continues to this day. Pray all you like, no limb has ever regrown. No child rose from the dead from their casket.
I believe religion is philosophical, and personal. It should be a pursuit of truth rather than devotion to dogma and liars. For me, this led to atheism. Is it possible an all powerful being exists? Sure, in the realm of anything is possible, sure, it's possible. Is there evidence of this? No. But it is possible. Is it possible the god of the bible exists? No. Why? Because for that to be true you first have to accept the bible as the inerrant word of god, but there are mountains of errors in that book, conflicting accounts, and conflicting claims. Stories told by a perfect all powerful being would not be so confused.
Was there a Jesus? Perhaps. Was he supernatural in any form? No. Again, all we have are stories without supporting evidence. Was his mother a virgin? No, wouldn't be the first time a woman told a story about how she got pregnant. People lie. This is not a new thing.
Anyway, believe what you wish, just learn what evidence is and work your way toward the truth from there. These apologists exist for precisely one reason, to keep the collection plate filled. The books they sell and the videos/movies they make are all funded for this precise purpose.
@Will Theaxe Other than the bible what is there? Or let me put this another way... If the bible did not ever exist, if you deleted all human knowledge and started over right now, would research come to the conclusion that god was real? Even if different names were used, would that same conclusion be reached? This is unknown, because there is no tangible evidence. But, we would have the same physical sciences, because those are observable, testable, and repeatable. You would have different names for everything of course, Helium might be named Fred's Favorite Gas, but the physical laws we know of today would be rediscovered. But the supernatural, while such stories would still be running around to explain the unknown for some people, would take a whole new form. Maybe it would give rise to the many gods again, a god of the sea, a god of the sun, lots of house gods, gods of the harvest and so on. And, maybe, the same evolution would happen again, maybe, where in the constant oneupsmanship humans do where 'my god is more powerful than yours', one all powerful untouchable god would be defined, but no evidence would be available, just stories. Meanwhile, science would be figuring out how things work again. And as it does the need for these gods would evaporate. You don't need to pray to the god of the harvest, just water your crops correctly and remove the weeds as you should. You don't need to pray to the god of the ocean, just learn to build better boats. You don't need to pray to the sun god, it will rise daily, and we know why. It's too easy to just go 'I don't know, so God did it', and it accomplishes nothing, and it benefits no one (except the ones passing the collection plate).
God became the popular primary religion because the roman empire declared it to be so. It's that simple. The pope and the roman emperor joined forces and established that their authority came from God. The pope's first 'real' miracle was deflecting a 'barbarian horde' from getting close to rome (he paid them a pile of gold on the spot, and then a steady supply of gold for years after this). The pope, and the emperor, were direct lines to God on earth was the claim. And that set it in stone. Other nobles over time bought into this, after all, if you have the power of the pope (who commanded an army at the time) behind you, and all they controlled, it's a winning combination. Thus, the roman catholic church propagated their teachings and rule throughout all the 'civilized' world. Over time, other flavors of the religion branched off to build their own power base, and we have the many versions we have now. it's just how human greed and power work, and always has. We have evidence of this progression in the form of records of not just the church but also the emperors and kings throughout europe. Impartial records as well from various scribes just noting payments and travels of various nobles through their areas.
So, other than the bible, what direct evidence of God exists? And remember, there is probably matching evidence that zeus, apollo and athena exist.
@Will Theaxe "86% of the planet believes in a spirutal realm" What 86% of the people believe is evidence of nothing beyond saturation of a myth in culture. This is not evidence to support the existence of God, nor is it even evidence there is a 'spiritual realm'.
@Will Theaxe Insults? I responded to your statement, no insult in there.
And now you are mixing up definitions and concepts. The ordinary person test is whether an ordinary person could be expected to understand something, like an agreement, or a law. Not as a basis of evidence. Try it sometime... "Well your honor, everyone else in traffic was going 100mph so I figured it would be ok if I did as well." That excuse will fall flat. You will still be guilty of exceeding the posted speed limit.
As most parents ask their kids at some point "If everyone else walks off a cliff should you do it also?"... If unsure, the answer to that is no.
Same here... Just because a belief in the supernatural is pervasive in the population does not make it accurate, or evidence, it simply means it is popular. And nothing I said in my reply to you was an insult.
Science doesn't care about witnesses. Witnesses are well documented as being the worst basis of evidence. They get details wrong, they lie, they have poor memories, etc. Science requires testable evidence and experiments that can be reproduced by the impartial. It is slow, but it is reliable. It also requires an open mind, as new things are discovered occasionally it causes old beliefs to be reconsidered. But, this is a good thing for everyone involved.
I appreciate you believe. I appreciate you have probably believed all your life to some degree, and likely your parents and family, community, etc. But, there is a rather large chasm between what is belief, and what is evidence. Evidence is testable, it is verifiable, and most importantly it can be tested and verified by anyone, regardless of their agenda or personal bias.
Example. A person with normal vision, and a color blind person. If both are shown a color sample, the person with normal vision will identify a color, perhaps red. The color blind person will see something different. This is due to their bias. It is unintentional but their unique viewpoints, in this case due to physiology, is altering their perception. But, and this is the important part, BOTH of them could analyze that color sample with a color meter and get a color value, and both of them would get the same answer.
And no, no evidence, in thousands of years now, has ever been provided to prove the existence of God. Just a lot of people looking around and giving credit to the invisible God for what they see or experience. "I don't know, therefore it must be god." This is not evidence, this is giving up. The only 'evidence' has been a collection of semi related stories edited into the form of 'the bible'. For tens of thousands of years this was the normal response to a lot of things, though they credited other gods and forces for whatever they wondered about.
But, once people started wondering with a bit more depth, and most importantly writing things down, the mysteries began to unfold. We learned how to measure time, how to predict seasons, eclipses, and so on. Prayer didn't do it, study and observation, the collection of evidence and the analysis of evidence. And even today we learn new things about old ideas. It's an ongoing process.
@Will Theaxe p value is nothing more than probability. And it has no integrity of its own, its integrity is entirely based on the quality of the data you are sampling. And opinions are not evidence in science. Scientific evidence and legal evidence are very different concepts. What is considered valid in a courtroom is often discarded in science. So again, just because a story is known and popular does not make that story true. Millions believe UFOs have landed on this planet, but there is no evidence of this, so it is not considered to be true.
As for proving there is no god, you cannot prove a negative. But we can disprove the validity of the claims being made in support of the god of the bible, and the claims being made by creationists, like the world being only 6,000 yrs old or the noahs ark story. We can also demonstrate the behaviors that lead to such belief systems. Meanwhile the only evidence on offer from the believers in god is a collection of conflicting stories, which they like to call inerrant.
Can you give any proof for your claims?
I sure could have used that pointer you got while I was in the Military LOL. Mind sharing the make and model? God be glorified for your labors bothers.
Outstanding interview.
I pray all people that have used old universe astronomy as their stumbling block could watch this video.
If you're a Christian
share this video with your friend.
You should have paid attention in school
@@sodaht2296
All they taught me was billions of years and evolution
@@knightclan4 that's good... At least you weren't lied too.
People who teach evolution as false are some of the biggest morons on the planet.
Evolution is a major part of biology
@@sodaht2296 Evolution has been disproved time and rime again. So many people hold onto it bexause they cant accept the fact of a creator and a judgement to come. DNA alone, are extremely more complex than anything man has ever created, but we wouldn't say you could shake a bag of watch parts for a billion years and come up with a watch. It's not that hard to understand when the Bible says "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." Psalms 19:1
@@williamschultz959 LOL comedy. Nothing to back it up either
The speed of light is exponentially slowing due to the increase in zero point energy. Light was moving millions of times faster during creation week. All chemical processes are electrical by nature. Electricity travels at the speed of light, so everything could grow to maturity in a fraction of a second during the first week. Take a look at physicist Barry Setterfield's work on this.
Did you of this from Chuck Missler?
Are you referring to barry's theory that was rejected by the Institution for Creation Research 32 years ago?
@@Cole-Thinks-Things Sorry my sentence was incomplete. Yes and how his theory was accepted more recently but they didn't give credit at all to Setterfield. I've been pondering the thought a lot and I'm confused, does that mean that the stars and galaxies are a lot closer than we realized?
@@Bilako has been accepted by whom?
@@Cole-Thinks-Things the secular scientific community
The flow of time for an object that travels at 0c is 1. And for an object that travels at speed of 1c the flow of time is 0. -> Within a bubble of its own, a photon will travel everywhere in no time.
This is what I've saying. And every time I say it the rubbuttle is always incoherent.
Like dued if time stops for anything going the speed of light, but light still manages to go places, that means thag light is instant, and we only register it as C squared when viewed in our refrence frame.
From the live chat:
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'If you make the data fit the theory, then the theory never changes'...yet science IS the one who changes theories, not so with theology. Science loves being wrong about ideas. Not for Christians"
Firstly, "science" is not a thing. It doesn't have the power to change. It is a method that exists only in human minds. It is the people who employ the method who change...if they are honest.
As to your thesis, I find that the evidence indicates that quite the opposite is true. Secular Scientists are constantly faking data to validate their preconceptions. Piltdown man, peppered moths, Henkle's embryos, falsified weather data... it goes on, and on, and on. Christians have no fear of saying "I don't know." When a Christian Scientist (not the cult) encounters data that conflicts with what God has told us, either directly through His word or in evidence He left in His creation, we know that the error is either in the data or with our understanding of the data, not with God or His creation.
Both secular and Christian scientific theories are constantly changing, but the motivations are different. The Christian wishes only to conform his perceptions to the truth. The secularist wishes only for the truth to conform to his perception of it.
By the way, secular science has the same problem. Secular science says the universe is 14 billion years old, but 93 billion light years across. Same problem, different scale, and they can't answer the question yet either.
Suppose I could always predict the future with nano second accuracy?
This is what validates science /(nonsuper)Naturalistic worldview and tested Methods.
Can you read this youtube comment?
My cell phone youtube comment is evidence of this, this technology (SCIENCE APPLIED) was able to predict the behaviour of a trillion billion future electrons sending you this comment at the speed of light, across the globe, thru multiple servers and satellites....and yet Im REALLY confident this comment got thru all the static and noise.
Does your mideval biblical Aristotelian Cosmology have such Predictive Powers and ALSO able to explain a wide range of seemingly unrelated phenomena AND predict future observation all at the same time ?
Nooo, not by a loooooong shot, not even close.
Can you build a working spiritual metaphysical postmodern potato laser gun using Aristotelian biblical principles? At least tell me how you could calibrate such a tool, so we can be confident the data is accurate.
@@pcb8059 You are such a perfect example of everything I said, that I can only give you a thumbs up. Thank you.
@@hikerbro3870 , science correctly understood and the proven Word of the Almighty Creator correctly understood are one and the same. Correctly understood, it is impossible either could not be.
@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 Well said, indeed!
Prove that scientists ”fake” data. The ”Piltdown man”, for example has been known as a bad joke, for decades. No serious scientists were involved in that joke.
Dr. Faulkner, I think there is no starlight problem if a person believes the Bible. I think the explanation where God says he stretched out the heavens like a curtain explains the starlight problem very simply. On Day four he stretched out the stars like a curtain, and as they were stretching out they left a light trail. The stretching was done in no more than 24 hours, hence the red shift and the apparent superluminal speeds. If the stars were started at varying times throughout the day and positioned at various distances then the red shifts would vary. We are still looking up at some starlight arriving on earth from day four. Since we are looking into the past we have no evidence that the stars are still moving. God gives a simple one-line explanation!
bible says that stars are holes in the firmament.
they are not following teachings of the bible
@@spatrk6634 - Please cite a Bible verse for your assertion.
Very good! That wasn't hard, was it?
@@rubiks6 sorry yea. it doesnt state it verbatim.
but that is biblical cosmology.
sky is firmament with stars and planets on it. and firmament hold the waters that fills the space to flooding the earths.
etc.
@@spatrk6634 - Not in the Bible? ... not biblical. Sorry. Not buying it.
at some point God went from creating to sustaining Genesis 3
I wouldn't write of the creation in transit theory just yet. Suppose God were to call out of existence all stars except our sun instantaneously. Could He not then recreate them just as they were a moment later? Of course He could. If He could do this now, He could certainly have done this in the beginning.
"And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth..." Rev. 6:13 The stars are much closer and much smaller than modern "astronomy" shills want us to know. God placed them within the firmament, just above the earth.
Why quote a Scripture when you don't know what it means?
@Frank Beans
It is.
Flat Earther mumbo jumbo.
@@WildPhotoShooter I think you're the flat earther
And all the stars will fall from the heavens to the earth...uh huh...1.3 million earth's would fit inside of our closest star...please explain the phisycs in that scenario...
Earth is stationary
Take readings on moon n sun with sextant .
Ring laser gyros prove you wrong. They always record a 15 degree per hour drift. Fifteen degrees per hour equals 360 degrees per day. Rotation proven.
Well let's take a look
At 12pm noon today
6months from now 12pm will be midnight having traveled to the opposite side of the sun.
BONUS planes fly level once reaching cruise alt. speed 600mph a gyroscopes are used
In one hour plane would gain 600×600×8 in÷ 12 in = ft of alt gian per hour
Want more ok
If Venus (aka Lucifer) is between earth n sun
Then to view it at night would be IMPOSSIBLE.
Got at least fifty more
@@robertcampbell6349 Earth is a circle, not a sphere.
It is very possible it is a half-globular system that is also enclosed. No matter particles are destroyed nor created thus, the Laws of the universe prove the mathematics of such calculation is by design. As if the earth is a giant clockwork system. All laws cooperate, isn't that what science also teaches? There is no chaos in a functional system.
No way to verify by NASA imagery that the earth is spherical either, due to every picture they have given is cgi or graphics rendered.
There is evidence for falsification of simple images, that have changed since their organization came into operation. On earth pictures the continents vary in size
@@abashedsanctimony154 The existence of the south celestial pole completely destroys your half- globe claim. Also, as one travels south toward the equator, the elevation angle to Polaris decreases in direct proportion to latitude until it slips below the north horizon at the equator. As one continues south, one sees different constellations like the Southern Cross. Don't take my word for it, take a trip to Australia and see for yourself. From Australia, you won't be able to see Polaris and you will see the south celestial pole.
@@ronaldariaaria1781 Completely wrong. I happen to be an aerospace engineer and I understand the physics involved. Airplanes at cruise don't gain altitude over the spherical Earth due to conservation of energy. Cruise is an equilibrium condition where Total Energy remains constant. (TE) = Potential Energy (PE) + Kinetic Energy (KE). And KE=1/2m*v^2 and PE = m*g*h.
Pitch trim causes the aircraft to seek a constant air speed for the trim setting. If the pilot reduces throttle, the airplane descends. If the pilot advances the throttle, the airplane climbs.
When flying over a spherical Earth in cruise conditions, as the Earth curves below the aircraft's path, it causes a slight increase in PE. Since TE is a constant, the increase in PE required an equal reduction in KE. The KE reduction causes the airplane to descend.
I'd bet my next paycheck the rest of your 50 claims are equally idiotic.
19:24. In Australia Orion is upside down, which is another proof the Earth is round. It also only appears during our summer before disappearing below the horizon.
Personally ive always thought of the "6000" years and the "7 days" as loose terms or even miss translated through time. Often times in languages 7 and 70 are very similar words. maybe the "day" in the 7 days was actually a longer unit of time than our current day or maybe "day" was miss understood.
I'm sure 7 days in god days is probably 7000 years in people days. There's no way the earth is 6000 years old I believe God created all life and the entire universe but it's something that is never finished.
Or, the Bible is wrong all together and light that is 4 million light years took 4 million years to get here.
Even if you hold to a literalist position there were no actual 24 hour days prior to the creation of the sun on Day 4.
If you hold to a 6000 year old earth then there are massive problems, because a date of c. 2400 BC for Noah's flood is contradicted by Egyptian and Mesopotamian chronologies. Most historians accept that the historical (written record) of Egypt goes back at least to 3000 BC.
I've always found it interesting that when the Bible says something like 'a man shall not lay with another man' then it's the literal word of God and must be enforced, and people will fight tooth and nail to do it.
BUT, when it's something like this where the Bible has been factually demonstrated to be incorrect then it's easily dismissed as a translation error. Maybe a day is actually 10,000 years? (not that that explains what the evidence actually shows).
The Bible is always as accurate or inaccurate as theists need it to be to support their current argument. Pick a lane.
@@joshsmith7176 - "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done."
- Genesis 2.1 - 2 (ESV)
Why an extra 'day' each four years?
God created a fully functioning universe...Just like when he healed the man's arm. It didn't grow from birth, it was a fully functioning arm.
Isaiah 45:12 It is I Who made the earth and created mankind on it. My Own Hands stretched out the heavens. I marshaled their starry hosts.
Jeremiah 10:12 But God made the earth by His Power; He founded the world by His Wisdom and stretched out the heavens by His Understanding.
Jeremiah 51:15 He made the earth by His Power; He Founded the world by His Wisdom and stretched out the heavens by His Understanding.
This makes sense to me, He stretched out the heavens.
These guys start with a conclusion and try to twist reality to fit that conclusion rather than letting reality dictate the conclusion. Obviously that's going to create problems. Thus "miracles" are needed to make reality make sense in their mind.
Theist logic:
Is the evidence consistent with our beliefs?
If yes: hallelujah, proof of God!
If no (far more common) : God must have used God magic to make this work! God magic is proof of God! Hallelujah!
You mean like the atheists starting with the conclusion that there is no God and then inventing all sorts of scenarios to explain things that God has done?
@@rubiks6 that's not true, but if lying helps you sleep better at night do what you have to do.
@@brendanl2580 - You can't know what is true for you have rejected the only source of truth. I reject your response.
@@rubiks6 you realize atheists don't care about whatever God you believe in right?
If you don't believe in leprechauns no one would say that you started with a regection of leprechauns and built you lies around it. You just don't believe in them because there is no evidence they exist.
The idea of cramming the Bible’s text into our beliefs is called eisegesis, as opposed to exegesis, which is pulling meaning and understand FROM the text.
A simple reading of the text answers the question. God intended that the lights in the heavens were to be for signs and seasons, days and years.
Genesis 1:14-19
14 ¶ Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years;
15 “and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so.
16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also.
17 God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth,
18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.
19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Obviously He created them in such a manner as to provide visible reference from the earth instantaneously, which, if you are an omnipotent creator, is fairly easy to accomplish, simply by changing the speed of light.
The next dilemma is, why did God have to RECREATE the Earth at all. In Genesis 1:2 it states: The Earth HAD BECOME without form, and void.
When you look at the actual Hebrew:
Inflected: הָיְתָה
Root: הָיָהSpeaker Icon
Strong's: H1961
Language: Hebrew
Code: H Vqp3fs
Vqp3fs
Word: הָיְתָה
Speech: Verb
Stem: Qal
Type: Perfect (qatal)
Person: 3rd Person
Gender: Feminine
Number: Singular
Long: Hebrew Verb: Qal Perfect (qatal) 3rd Person Feminine Singular
Which one is a verb, “WAS” or “HAD BECOME”?
This is called the “Gap Theory,” and it has merit. It states that there is an undetermined amount of time between the two verses.
Either way, this only becomes a problem when you err, and place God inside of the human restraints to understanding box.
If He’s truly omnipotent, then this problem evaporates.
What is the definition of a “DAY” anyway? By our cosmic understanding, it is the length of time it take for the earth to make a full rotation on its axis.
The sun, moon, and stars do not operate on the same “DAY” definition. Maybe he made the stars in one full rotation of THE UNIVERSE, which could be many billions of years.
Bottom line, maybe start defending your beliefs based on the omnipotence of the Creator. People who are looking for a scientific explanation of how this may have occurred are ask us to argue from the impossible position of an assumption that we know things that our scientists and astrologers are light years from knowing themselves. This is simply reductio ad absurdum, which is best answered with an absurd answer, aka, God is Omnipotent. Absurd? Yes, but also true.
My ancestors have been in Australia for at least 60000 years. No flood mentioned in their history .
Cool! I always believed in a localized global flood. This is just more evidence! 👍
Distant? How distant? How do you know?
Great video! I'm so sorry you struggled with this for years. I heard your same conclusion almost 15 years ago by Dr. Kent Hovind on a VHS tape. You should look him up, alot of what I see creationists struggle with Dr. Hovind has reasonable hypothesis from the 90s to today. Be blessed!
The person who calls himself 'Dr.Kent Hovind' has no qualifications that would entitle him to do so. He does not have a University Degree, let alone a Doctorate.
@@bigblukiwi yes yes of course Sir Cox but I dare say.. there are many who have degrees yet are as sharp as marbles. If your measure of a mans knowledge is primarily based upon the "Authority" argument then I shan't agree with you. Entitlement is the entire issue here I dare say good man! Listen to a mans words and judge him so forth and not by his title, those pesky letters like phd, (philosophical degree) which cost only the family farm to obtain. I will listen to the man who seeks out the Truth and not the one who is select by glorious titles only, mostly devoid of logic. Was it not Einstein who said that the Scientist makes a horrible philosopher? PHD you say ol'boy... mine apologies for the 18th century pose old chap, unfortunately i have been quite engaged in documentaries appearing here on youtube involving such speech. Cheers!
@@bigblukiwi Yea, totally. He's just a school teacher. He thinks that gives him credentials to debate the best scientists in the world. Unbelievable arrogance.
He also got busted for tax evasion. What a fraud.
firstly how long does a complete rotation of our galaxy take? they can measure it, 250 million years given the age of our galaxy it has only done a few full rotations.
A lot of wisdom here, thank you.
Im curious if you guys put on any kind of seminars or speak at churches?
....I know Creation Ministries International and Answers in Genesis do have travelling speakers.
God didn't live on Earth. Why would His days last only 24 hours? For all we know, His day was 1000 years long.
No. The wording is very specific indicating that it was speaking of actual 24 hour days.
@Zeph53nz what's your point?
@Zeph53nz Actually, I have researched the meaning....many people who are experts in ancient Hebrew have done do....and it literally means a 24 hour day. Go on line and you should easily find this for yourself. I do not expect you to take my word for it.
Do we have any understanding/formula/insight etc, what happens with light within space that is rapidly expanding?
Does it also stretch at the same rate? Kinda like drawing a line on a balloon and as you inflate balloon it stretches the line at the rate of the expansion. Even conventional science says that "Big Bang" expanded millions times faster than speed of light. If light within that expending space also stretches wouldn't that explain it? After all doesn't Bible repeatedly say that God stretched the heavens?
Yes, the light becomes red-shifted to the degree of the expansion. However, the universe was so dense at that point of initial expansion that light didn't propagate long distances. It was not until 370,000 years after the big bang that photon decoupling occurred and the universe was transparent enough to allow light to travel. Yet, that still does not explain the distant starlight problem as there were not stars forming until another 150 million years.
@@haggismcbaggis9485 thank you for the explanation.
Thanks Danny for completely confusing me.
So sustaining consistently changes the equation at every point where re sustaining begins away from the original point of beginning of creation so each time sustentation comes to yield the factor ,the provision changes , I would hate that accounting job .
Could be they are close, we've been told the stars are old.
I'd love to see some pictures, actually videos of these constellations planets, etc.
I think talk is cheap, give me real facts. Videos not drawing. If we're spinning and flying so fast through space, why don't we EVER see new stars, NEVER, the ancients saw these same stars.
All he gave theories, guesses. Where are the facts.
Great point about the stars never changing! Thanks!
That information has been around for many years, it's called astronomy.
We do see new stars. They can even date ancient ritual structures (like stone henge, pyramids ect) based on how long ago specific stars lined up during the solstices. Do some real research.
We discover new stars all the time. When the Weber space telescope goes on line we will discover even more.
The Creation Event is not constrained by our speculations and presuppositions regarding constants; especially Einsteinian mechanistic encumbrances.
LOL
Creationism- the belief that folks like Trevor Seines is smarted than Einstein.
🤣🤣🤣 PLUTO!
Walt Disney creation, can you not see the silhouette of the dog on the wandering star?
Best friends with Werner von Braun.
When I first saw the (alleged) NASA photo of planet Pluto, I immediately noticed the silhouette of Disney's cartoon character of Mickey Mouse's dog Pluto. Looks like the jokes on people who weren't Disney cartoon fans.
Robert H. Stein has a good summary in one of his books on how the belief or lack of in miracles will inevitably decide which direction you turn with the first step of your journey, and ultimately where you will end up.
Lutheran Satire has a humorous cartoon on that subject called Conal and Donal meet Richard Dawkins. My favorite line from it is the joke about disproving the existence of Barium by throwing out the few definitive samples of Barium on hand.
GOD is real, Toledots are history, Genesis is Real
It’s called the firmament.... stars are in it.... hello
Why does everything in the universe appear to be speeding away from us but it not going anywhere?
Expansion doesn't mean everything is moving away from each other. If that what true you would be expanding away from your cellphone right now. Expansion occurs when gravity becomes too weak. Things are expanding as a balloon's surface expands.
Evolution: A-FOOL-[N]OTION
1. A fool’s notion of life coming into existence by chance.
If life came existence by chance, it could be made to occur in the lab. But WAK how mind bendingly complicated even single cell organisms are. Over many, many years no scientist on Earth has been able to propose a procedure to make life happen. The best that's ever been done is to come up with a component or two of DNA. Making that into DNA and life is an unimaginably difficult task that only atheists can believe is possible!
Ask yourself, is it testable and can it be independently verified? If not then it can and probably should be dismissed.
Are you referring to the Book of Genesis?
@@haggismcbaggis9485 Anything that's asserted as fact that is used to insidiously push a religious/political agenda.
Tbh, I don't think you needed 20 minutes to say "it was a miracle"
@@hansdemos6510 lol. Well you do... So you can have an argument from authority. But yeah, otherwise...
I love this channel but the content for this one is incorrect and irrelevant. Halton Arp showed that cosmic redshift is intrinsic and not Doppler effect. Redshift is therefore meaningless as a measure of distance. Ultimately, cosmic distances are unknown-any related discussions around time/distance are meaningless. If not conversant with Arp’s (stunning) work, any presumptive expert can be ignored.
I'm not saying that Arp is wrong but among astronomers, his ideas are not respected. I'm all in favor of one man being right while all the rest are wrong. As a creationist, I'm used to that, so thank you for your addition to the discussion.
I'm a creationist and a big fan of your channel. However, I have to say that this video was disappointing. Dr. Faulkner is not my favorite creationist scientist. Most of the video was filled with extraneous material that had nothing to do with the topic. In the end, he had not actual explanation except to appeal to the miraculous, which only provokes laughter from the secularists and atheists. There are much better actual explanations for this seemingly thorny issue for creationists. It's a shame that you did not present a video that actually presented some real answers. Very disappointing.
Agree. I have a feeling that the deception of the reality of the makeup of our planet (or whatever you want to call it) extends much further and goes much deeper than most think. Personally, I don't see how you can successfully reconcile the Biblical firmament with scores of giant gaseous orbs of light that are "millions of light years away" (or more), but that's just my opinion. We must accept that we, as created beings in our fallen flesh, have limited understanding, and won't know even a fraction of a fraction about our reality this side of eternity. Fortunately, we don't have to for salvation. God bless.
Personally I prefer the theory that Dr. jason lisle speaks of.
I think the physics of Einstein perfect answers this (distant star light) question.
I think Rick Moranis wasn't the only one who shrank the kids.
Finally a scientist with brains
and cajones!
the answer is found in Psalm 90:4, how our God view time.
Moses is even more explicit.
The Hebrew word for day has several meanings, e.g one means a long period of time. Imo there is no way the earth is only 6k years old. Billions of years is what we should be looking at.
A bigger question you have to account for first is why are there stars anywhere? The bible clearly says we live in a snow globe. Firmament and all!
Ask a photon how long it took to get here from the edge of the universe. It would say I haven't even started to move yet.
Right!
At 4:26 when he quotes Genesis by saying that "it was a process", this is not written in the Bible like that. The "process" of plants sprouting out of the ground took one day. Or maybe you don't believe that God can do what we can't rationalize?
JohnChaneyIII, the term "one day" is not defined to be the same duration as We call a Day....There was some
mention that a genesis day was a thousand of today's years.....
@@regdor8187 Show me exactly where in the Bible "one day" is redefined to mean a longer period of time.
@@kpec3 : 2 Peter 3:8, which says, " with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
He built the objects from earth and threw them out there like baseballs,the light trail started from earth on its way out!
Lol may be. I don't think I've heard that b4
@@eastky1901 on the first day he made the heavens and the earth,on the fourth day the moon,sun and stars......so he designed them from the earths location and possibly cast them afar in an instant? Stretched them away from earth?
@@eastonlee5102 yea I agree with that. That's really probably what happened
@@eastky1901 either I am gullible and missing the joke or you are extremely gullible
@@johndenton4008 lol
It's fascinating watching people trying to make science fit into their fairy tale.
I think ziggy2009 completely missed what this guy was saying. He wasn't trying to make science fit the creation belief, or as he put it in the well worn out vernacular, fairy tale. Quite the opposite. He said science and physics cannot explain the miraculous. They are 2 separate things.
It’s fascinating to watch scientists trying to invent fairy tales to fit their preconceived ideas
@@md4843 Everyone has a world view and looks for things to validate their beliefs, be they atheists or believers in a Holy God. Agnostics are worse off in the end. They have nothing to believe in re their eternal destiny. Straddling a fence is no way to go through life.
@@md4843 Preconceived ideas? That's one if the most retarded statements ever.
Scientific Fact, Carbon 14, Geology. All pseudo science ehh...
Next you'll be telling me the South American Sloth managed to crawl across the Continent, crawl across Africa due to Pangaea or Gondwana to get to boat that housed every species on the planet. So much for Genetic Diversity. Unfortunately they broke up tens of millions of years ago and the Atlantic Ocean was created.