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The power lead with a ground cable is a Japanese-style cable. Most outlets in Japan are ungrounded, but some will have a ground 'pole' sticking out to which you can connect the separate ground lead. This is required for outlets that e.g. AC units connect to.
Why this PSU came with a Japanese-style power lead is... weird.
Scythe is a Japanese company - I guess it was sourced directly from Japan.
That also used to be a thing in the U.S. Older homes (and some current homes) had the electrical boxes grounded through the bezel screw. It's still common to be able to buy 2 prong to 3 prong adapters with a prong that attaches to the bezel screw. The original outlets in my 1920's home were all 2 prong (and unfortunately entirely ungrounded).
intresting. :)
Power Supplies imported from Japan almost every time comes with that ground connector. I imported my Superflower Leadex III 850W and came with it's own PSU cable with the same ground cable.
Yeah, even in North America in older homes a lot of the outlets won't be grounded but usually you just buy adapters here instead of companies putting on a pole to ground.
Every day I become more convinced the company only exists so Linus can afford to drop stuff.
haha same
He does it on purpose
Linus Drop Tips
Cos he is an entitled prick.
Is there a store where I can buy what Linus has broke
The really really REALLY sad thing for me is: This PC has better specs than mine
Same
Me too lol
I have an i3 10th gen integrated graphics laptop 😭
FYI fellow viewers: The ground pin on the PSU you saw was Japanese standard, and the box was also for Japanese market. I have seen Kuroutoshiku once on TechPowerUp GPU database, and it was a re-branded PowerColor Fighter (the lower-end MSRP-grade) RX 6700 XT.
PIN THIS COMMENT !
Came here to post this, THEN saw your post :)
Me sweating with the RX 6700 XT by powercolor fighter🥵🥵
Can confirm, I've bought UPSs when I was in japan from reputable sources and they had this kind of ground plug.
Before I read this comment, I laughed my ass off at their confusion at that part of the video.
Redoing the most profitable video. Stonks
Running out of ideas. Stinks.
@@Yo-ItsYo nah itd be hard to run out of ideas about tech
@@Yo-ItsYo who cares it’s still entertaining
@@Yo-ItsYo cry more
Who wouldn’t if you could 😂
RE: 3:13 - My guess is that was a Gigabyte board that failed quality controls over the DVI port and possible other issues. Someone took the QC reject boards (basically stole them from the company) and sold them on Wish.
You mean the vendor or a manager at the vendor sold them directly. China has many brands based around products rejected by the companies that ordered them. Could be typos on a branded shirt, could be unsafe furniture, all manner of things.
@@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Sometimes I feel that people run around and continue running the factors after hours and that is how we get those knockoff things. Or they just cheaply buy machines meant for disposal, but keep them in use to produce other stuff.
@@HappyBeezerStudios I dont know how it works with the tech sector, but when it comes to clothes the factories and plants used for all the big fashion brands either simultaneously produce knockoff shit or are placed right next to the factories that produce the fake stuff. So there's a lot of overlap and sharing of info/resources when it comes to producing this stuff.
Bros on a ps3 💀
Nope its just a clean used board.Those things are a dime a dozen.
that cpu reminds me of the time when I bought an i7 2600k a few years back. Surprised to see it runs at 5GHz no problem. But when it arrived, it was wrapped in some thin styrofoam inside a small seethrough box and the package was labeled something like "plastic foam" value: 1usd.
11:17 Protip: Ground lead can be used on a two pin socket and attached under the screw that mounts the faceplate - In most cases that should make contact with the outlet housing/box which should be grounded (if the installer did that)
Actually, Kuroutoshikou is a trusted and a well known brand in Japan for those who opt for budget pc builds. I never used their product though.
Galax/galakuro is one of their product as well. I think they are not good at branding, but their products are okey and very very generic.
I was SO SURPRISED when I read the name Kuroutoshikou because I thought "wow that brand name is too long" and then I thought "wait it sounds like a bunch of kanji" LOL. I'm so happy someone else noticed.
My 780Ti was from Kuroutoshikou, and it was perfectly fine for the 4 years or so I used it!
I am pretty sure it is the same as the galax/kf2 1030. Probably a rebrand of some sort.
Good brand, I have a kf2 gpu myself. It is one of the few brands that even makes white gpu's at all.
I live in Japan and have bought some of their GPUs in the past. They are pretty decent in my experience.
I can confirm that random mini screwdrivers seem to come with random things on Wish for no reason. I bought a pair of shoes just for fun and it had one of those 🤣
You mean you don't screw the shoes to your socks?
I have those from Aliexpress when I bought replacement screens for my phones, but they were actually useful to me, I assembled the screen with them.
@@NeighborSenpai Of course he doesn't What is he an alien? He screws them directly to he feet
@@NeighborSenpai I thought you screwed your shoes on to your feet.
@@SpinoRexy733 is this why feet have mounting brackets?
school computer speedrun
lol
Those socket 939 heatsinks terrified me. I could never afford "the good stuff" and as you say "you gotta do what you gotta do" and I had to use the screwdriver technique every time. On a motherboard I could not really afford to replace.
“You don’t need a screwdriver to install a cable!”
He says after installing the totally standard ground connector for the psu with a screwdriver
Was looking for this one before posting myself lol.
Serial, parallel, VGA, & DVI cables came with thumbscrews on the plugs like 90% of the time. Wouldn’t particularly wanna use a screwdriver and risk breaking the the thumbscrews, but you *could*.
Don’t see them popping up on LTT unless it’s a retro special, though.
"It means that people must be buying it, right!?" No Linus, it's just you. Sellers put stuff on Wish with the hope that they'll make it into a LTT video.
Him and Stuart Ashens
If not him, Austin Evans or Dawid.
13:33 yep. Even though you’re a seasoned expert, it’s glad to see that the common trial of trying to screw something into the case, only to finish installing and then see that the panel was removable is a rite of passage for a new builder. And seeing Linus encounter it makes me chuckle
Your vids are great !
Enjoying them all.
Keep going!!
Gtrz from the Netherlands :)
A thousand people have probably already mentioned this but that "ground pin" is the standard in Japan, where grounded wall sockets are so rare as to be nearly non-existent. Spent seven years there and most of my electronic power cables looked like that.
Sounds dangerous
@@HappyDude1 Japan is really backwards with a lot of standards
@@auzzierocks
Really ? they make such good electronics and cars 😀
But its not what it used to be like in 90's
Why mention it again when everyone's already mentioned it?? Lol
@@HappyDude1 not totally, most electronics are insulated so if there is a short you wont get electrocuted (at least in America you do not see many devices with a ground pin either.), and while japanese outlets dont have a ground pin, some will have a small door that opens up to a ground screw that you can ground too.
also as long as the breakers are GFCI/RCBO breakers if there is a leak to ground it will trip (say if you drop your hair dryer in water)
Not saying its perfect, both japanese and americas home electrical can suck (ive wired my own stuff and seen some stupid crap before), it could be a lot worse especially in really old homes were they might still be using knob and tube wiring, fuses, and all sorts of problematic standards of old.
Linus attempting to play TF2 in Valve's official Casual mode was even more dangerous than the Wish PC build.
truly
Thankfully they have made a LOT of progress cleaning it up by Hiring a team to fix the Underlying bot account issue.
@@SoggyMicrowaveNugget Correct. Instead of 9/10 servers being full of bots, 8/10 are bot-free in my experience.
I dont find that many bots anymore tbh and if they get kicked in less then a min actualy pretty good
Hi, is the player base still a lot for TF2? i was thinking of trying it for the first time.
11:20 that is a japanese grounding chord. Japan doesn’t have man three pronged outlets so they sometimes use that to offer a manual grounding
I am familiar with that grounding thing -- it's when you need to convert a 2 prong outlet for a 3 prong plug, so you screw that little bit onto the faceplate, to fake, er.. make the ground. They were all the rage in the 1980s and 1990s when you had an old house with old 2 prong outlets.
It's far safer than just snapping the third prong off, and when you mount the third wire to the faceplate or the junction box, it should be grounded that way.
The All Wish gaming pc.....
Wishing you won't have to call the fire dept.
Wishing your insurance company doesn't see the video
I'm pretty sure all the computer hardware purchased from Wish comes from all of the TH-camrs making Wish computer builds 😂
Same. Linus: who buys all this? Me: You of course
Its like that south park episode about TV jewellery shopping channels.
Forget computer hardware. Pretty much all of Wish's customers are TH-camrs riffing on their garbage.
Im live in “””2nd world””” country and ive seen people use wish becasue amazon apparently is more expensive?
💯
The ground pin thing you have on the power supply is an old way ( at least here in USA ) for a very short time electrical retrofitting /adapting was done. Older houses only had two prong plugs with grounding integrated into the common lead, so when the standard began changing over to three prong power cords ( hot, common, and ground ) people would run a single ground wire to each outlet that needed it and tie the ground into the screw on the outlet box/cover plate, but usually a three prong plug adaptor was left plugged into the outlet and the ground tab was secured/screwed to the now grounded box/cover screw and you could plug your new three prong grounded plug appliance into that outlet. I'm guessing the cord you have is some sort of alternate solution to the same problem.
I think the Dram screws were for when you add the old school aftermarket heat spreaders. Clip on or screw on metal heat sinks. My dad had them in his first PC.
Those grounding wires are common in Japan. Also that switch has nothing to do whatsoever with PFC (power factor correction). That switch is simply so 1 type of unit can work at different volt levels. PFC is to correct for capacitive/inductive loads to reduce the reactive power, which is essentially wasted power on the grid.
Except... 110/230V capable PSU's with Active PFC tend to use one of the "Boost PFC" circuits which generates a fixed DC voltage as output, often ~400V, regardless of input voltage in a fairly wide range, 85-265V is pretty common. So there's no voltage switch on these.
So, you're technically correct in that the switch doesn't PROVE anything about the PFC, it's quite possible to build a PSU with active PFC that require a voltage switch for 110/230V but it would likely cost as much or more than one without that switch which is probably why I can't remember seeing one at the moment.
So in practice Linus is correct in that there's a very strong correlation between that switch and the PSU having either passive PFC or no PFC.
Yes, Linus could have formulated it more precisely. But then he wouldn't be Linus... 🙂
@@Torbjorn.Lindgren Yup, it's a sign of a crap PSU by modern standards.
Came here for this... Japan uses similar receptacles as the US, but only two prong, so you have to ground like those old three-to-two prong adapters that use the cover screw between the two receptacles.
@@davidkane4300 Yeah, and some modern outlets in Japan will have a small cover below one of the 2 prongs that will be were you can plug in the ground wire. And I do believe it is possible to get 3 pin outlets as well, but they aren't super common yet.
To add, in Japan they have two different power grids separated between North and South, one runs on 50Hz while the other runs on 60Hz. There is a history there that I won't get into on a post.
I came to say this also. Every computer I’ve built in Japan from 2005 to 2013 all had that kind of ground. There is no ground plug on Japanese outlets. I still use an old one for a monitor after moving to the states.
I'm really shocked that there wasn't an LTT Screwdriver plug when he broke the DERAM screwdriver.
Massive missed opportunity
@@Matty.Hill_87he didn't want to say neither screwdriver has warranty
Fail
Same
sure, but why would I want to buy an LTT screwdriver after getting a DERAM one? The latter is clearly superior
The grounding wire thing is common in Japan. They don’t generally use 3-prong outlets and so they screw that wire into the outlet cover screw to ground it.
The grounding plug is used in Japan. Japan also uses type A outlets like we do in Canada/US. They probably just used a JP plug instead of having separate stock of US plugs.
EDIT: The writing on the box is also Japanese instead of Chinese, so probably just a JP power supply Wish bought in bulk.
The fact that Linus called over a Chinese employee to ask about a very obviously Japanese product is just... so perfect.
You don't buy things from wish! You buy stuff from small(?) sellers mainly from china. It's the same like buying from aliexpress, ebay or amazon marketplace. Except that prices are way too high (at least including shipping) and that there are many fakes. Whoever uses wish WANTS to be scammed... Or just doesn't know better.
You are half right. That's Japanese Kanji, which are pretty much Chinese characters. They can be read by both parties.
@@FlylHigh Except there's katakana and hiragana on the package, which are decidedly _not_ Chinese.
@@RaynmanPlays I mean, wish is a chinese website. So it isn't far fetched to think it is a chinese plug. Though, I don't think they sell much/anything in china, sooo.
The worst thing is that this is literally a Dell Optiplex configuration. And an Optiplex can be found for like 80€.
Add an SSD and a low profile GPU and you get more performance for less than half the price of this monstrosity 😬
He intentionally bought crap to make a video on it its very evident there were far better deals than this
great point.
But is it upgradeable? Optiplex has proprietary BS
@@bitelaserkhalif its not like that Wish PC was upgrade-able, that shit would break before you could take your next breath
i currently have an old workstation with a good gpu as a pc, it works perfectly fine and has been for years, no need to upgrade yet
@@bitelaserkhalif the older optiplex's are pretty good, even though it's proprietary, many parts are interchangeable
11:32
Fun fact I did see some grounding solutions in japan that used that. But it was mostly for 3 prong US adapters
(Taking a cable with a ground pin. And adapting it to a 2 pronged one with out a ground)😊
Pretty sure you are supposed to ground that to the mounting screw for the faceplate of your outlet. I have seen connections like that on some of my dads old power tools from the 70's and early 80s, like his drill press and table saw.
This loose packaging of the motherboard is quite common in industry, even for expensive equipment. For circuit boards, this is usually the normal packaging.
Its only for consumers where fancy form-fitting foams are common.
Can't trust those peasants to handle their motherboards properly, better add some foam
how low your standard could drop, can you drop it even lower?
Wrong
@@AM23. In my experience doing ATM breakfix calls OP is correct. If it's just a PCB it's almost always loose in a box, even for a $10,000 ATM control board. It's pretty wild.
@@Teth47 That's so weird🤷♂️
The worst part of that is, 10 years back, that would have been considered a top spec gaming PC. You could have bought a Ryzen 5 with a Vega 11 gpu for less than $400, have some change, and still gotten a much better gaming PC over all.
You just described my own computer... Lol
I would like that case. I need a optical drive bay.
@@louistournas120 Why not just use an external optical drive?
@@spiceforspice3461 looks ugly
i hate how ppl have no respect for money, stuff and dont give a shiet how treath it
21:14 “Will it blend? There’s the question”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I actually got that RGB peripheral combo as a birthday present a while back...
It was so bad that the lmb literally fell off and exposed the crappy board on the inside which also fell out too.
The keyboard got insanely sticky and barely worked (this was all maybe 1 month into its use too)
I never used the headphones because it was insane how low their quality was, but I still have them to this day.
The reason why SCYTHE is still making those old designed PSU's in 2022 is that they have branded that particular product as "ideal as a replacement power supply for Mini-ITX cases and slim cases, such as systems using various SFF (Small Form Factor / small system) power-saving CPUs, refreshing old generation PC power supplies, etc."
Also, the Graphics Card from 玄人志向(Expert Oriented) is a famous brand in Japan.
It's a sub-brand of バッファロー(Buffalo) which is also famous for making quality budget computer peripherals.
玄人志向(Expert Oriented) mainly makes budget hardware for PCs.
I have a Kurotoshiko GPU and never had a problem with it. Decent brand.
With proper research, Linus should have known that the PSU power plug with separate ground wire is standard in Japan.
So that GPU actually probably was a pretty alright deal?
@@collinschofield808 yea but I don't know if they have any warranty in Canada or USA so I wouldn't recommend it to everyone
I didn't know 玄人志向 was a Buffalo brand, interesting.
@@Idiomatick I used to live in Japan. The plugs are not round.
Was half-expecting Linus to say “And who’s our sponsor?”
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The craziest part about the PC parts on wish is the price. I think it's cool that there is a way to buy a bunch of old PC parts to keep them out of landfills, but they should be priced accordingly. A lot of the CPUs on there should be like $5 instead of 50.
I had a twist tie fan on my old PC. One of my fans broke, and I found a fan at Goodwill without any screws, so I just twist tied it into the case and it worked for like another 10 years.
Done that. I've also zip tied fans into place more than once
That card is actually a Japanese 1030. During the GPU shortage, that was actually making 1030s expensive, I had to import one from Japan because it was actually cheaper than buying one from US retailers. Looks like some Wish reseller got the same idea.
How is the performance on those compared to normal Nvidia ones?
How is the performance on those compared to normal Nvidia ones?
@@gasparayakos8215 Just your typical 1030. Just gotta make sure it's gddr5. They're just a board partner in Japan, so it's no different than a Gigabyte or an Asus card.
@@Levy_Wilson importing a 1030 😂😂😂 brokie!!
@@lafireteamplx3400hey, if you fall under tough times, you gotta do what you gotta do. you probably will encounter it sooner or later
In case anyone was curious: yes, in most instances you can actually get away with only populating half of the 8-pin EPS connector if you are using a relatively low power CPU.
Can confirm, I still use a 4 pin connector for my cpu
Worked fine on my HTPC back in the day no problem. It later turned into a NAS.
Confirmed, works flawless as long as your cpu is not a power hungry monster. Tried it. H510 mobo with 10105f cpu, ran several benches without problem. BUT: its a sign your psu is not designed for such modern hardware and generally not recommended i would say.
Define 'low power' please.
@@AC3handle Between 96W (officially) and 192W (unofficially). It'll depend on the power supply, but most should be more than capable of powering a 95W or less CPU unless the motherboard is expecting to see additional 12V lines on the other pins in the EPS 8-pin socket. That does sometimes happen for boards in the enthusiast space and was shockingly common on boards designed for some of AMD's most power-hungry chips. I wouldn't even be particularly concerned about trying to run something up to the, like, 115W range off of a single 4-pin P4 connector since it was designed specifically to meet the power demands of the Pentium 4 (hence the name) and those peaked at 115W.
That was the smoothest transition to an ad I've ever seen😂
11:38 I have seen that cable before, it was used to ground a moveing robot to its frame
I bought the fans once too (for a arduino project). They are very likely to catch fire.
I plugged them in and luckily outside the case to cool me and I was at the computer when it happened.
It happened with both.
That style of grounding on the PSU is standard in Japanese apartments and houses. Almost all of the electrical outlets will be 2 prong. Only in rooms for high wattage electronics like the kitchen and laundry room will have a little covered grounding screw for you to attach the grounding wire.
Yep, This is standard in Japan. The laptop I bought back then there has this power plug
Okay, Japan does a lot of thing better than the rest of the world, but this is absolutely not one of them. That is a horrible way of doing it.
Imagined someone will tell the truth xD
well THAT sounds fucking safe...
@@SeventhEntropy xenophobia being one of the things they do much better than everyone else
David's the real MVP for moving to try to catch that motherboard. Some people would have stood there and filmed the disaster as it unfolded.
I've built a similar spec PC with leftover parts i had lying around for my father. It had an Asrock b85m mobo, a i5 4590, a Gt1030, i think a gigabyte, passive cooled, 240 gb intenso ssd, 16 gigs of DDR3 RAM and surprisingly an insanely similar case from a company, i think called LC. The funny thing is i bought this case for 47 euros, including a 300W PSU. It's a nice PC for light everyday use.
I actually liked how that case looks, wouldn't buy it for this much, but if it was quarter the price I would go for it and drill some holes on the back for psu ventilation.
I thought the same thing. It would make for an awesome home theater PC. It even has an optical drive bay.
my first pc was built in that case, different front panel but the chassis is exactly the same. only cost me $20-ish brand new and heck yes its fun to mod
the case is literally avilable on ebay for less than half
Im sure ive seen similar cases with included psu's for £35 before, brand new. I would go standing anything on them tho, theyre very tinny thin. Damn I miss the ol' IBM cases that were strong enough to take the weight of a 24" CRT.
11:25 That's how grounding works in Japan. It's only needed for high-powered devices, so you'll usually find one outlet with it in the kitchen for the fridge, and one in the utility area for the washing machine.
Why Japan hasn't moved on to a proper grounding pin like the rest of the world... I don't know.
I do not answer, because I do not know the answer as such.
But one hypothesis I have is that since they are so strict about housing* I imagine they have a culture of keeping construction costs very, very low. Imagine if an earthquake cuts the "ground spike" and a whole building is left ungrounded, this should be better than nothing.
*(a house unoccupied for X time usually is directly DEMOLISHED to avoid fires/propagation of pests and, later, a new one is built. The matter of earthquakes, etc...)
As anecdote, in my country, in the old days (grandfather or even before), grounding was done with a wire wrapped around whatever-they-have-in-hand, usually the copper bathtubs they had...
@@Armonth bathtubs and space heaters are a good option for "emergency" grounding.
I had fun getting zapped by my laptop in Japan
Grounding shouldn't only be for 'high powered devices', grounding should be for any metal cased mains electronics(unless it has an external power adaptor, so only has a low voltage inside the case) that aren't "double insulated"(labelled as a square inside another square).
Maybe you meant high voltage?
The power consumption isn't relevant if a live wire contacts a metal case, and consequently shocks you with however much current it can get through your body!
If the metal shell is earthed, it blows the fuse, rather than trying to electrocute you.
Fridges and washing machines are typically metal, and would probably be harder to insulate.
@@rocketPower047 That's most likely not related to electrical grounding, most or probably all laptops are charged with a DC supply with no earth connection to the laptop. Grounding should only make a difference if there was something severely wrong with the power brick of the charger.
Any voltage difference can cause a shock, and indeed touching something earthed at the same time as touching something with a voltage applied can make the shock worse.
19:44 wow i think that might be actually my keyboard + mouse that ive been using for YEARS and i have the same headset but i gave it to my dad
3:53 It still checks out up to this day tho. Though for CPUs with TDP of ~115W or more it's not that efficient... But everything below that it cools just fine even under extreme load and keeps the temps around 75°C (no extreme stress load temps are from 46 to 68°C in my exp, I have a similar cooler but made by AIGO company*).
*TBH that was an accidental purchase (more over, accidentally I've bought two of them back in 2019-20), but in the end they turned out to be not that bad overall.
Ed.: A CPU with TDP of 135W (10c/20th, stock 2.9GHz → TB 3.5GHz) under load in CPU benchmark in 3D Mark heats up to 84-86°C. The case has 4 120 and 2 90mm fans 1back90:1up120 exhaust, 2front120:2side120&90 intake.
11:25 I believe that is a Japanese standard- the outlets over there are primarily North American-style ungrounded, with an optional ground pin.
Can confirm, was confused as hell when I first encountered them.
Can confirm. Lived there for a couple of years, and this is definitely their standard.
Can confirm. I was born here in Japan and never used ground pin ever lol
@@neokixxx please make sure your pc is grounded. Especially if u have fur or pets in the house
@@aoyuki1409 In Japan the breakers have ground protection so you don't really need the extra cable anyway and many people do not bother using them. It's called an earth leakage circuit breaker.
The display card is actually from a respectable minimalistic Japanese brand that was famous in Japan's DIY field.
No surprise it was the only component to hold up
@@littlebosaMusic Yeah when it ran Tf2 I was surprised to see how well it was running! That grounding connection is odd for the PSU.
@@deadasfboi Though also very Japanese, they still have this style of grounding connection and it's weird.
Nah, i think it is a Chinese brand but with a japanese name, just like genshin impact
@@hsienkangliu1436 your username looks like you are Taiwanese, if so how do you not know this famous Akiba DIY brand?
I really enjoy your videos, seems like you really know your stuff all these pcs are better than what I ever could afford.
😂
the ground fork on the psu cable screws into the receptacle cover mounting screw, which is usually grounded. i guess its a thing in japan??? i dont think its up to code in the US anymore .
that's the thing, every component must be good if not you will have complications immediately or down the road. either shortly but yea that
Gotta secure the memory with screws so the PC doesn't "DeRAM."
Seriously no one told ya... just get out !
please never say that again
Ahh the COOLMOON cooler. Perfect for cheap kid's PCs with acrylic side panels. Having built a few of those, I am a fan (no pun) Cooling is equivalent to the stock Intel cooler but obvs with RGB.
I remember seeing those once but picked another cheaper ID cooler thing and actually beated my stock cooler, good to know i wasnt missing a lot
Coolmoon... Probably want to fool potential buyers into thinking that they can overclock their CPU to the moon with the cooler.
I've had their RGB fans completely catch fire using the Molex cable not once but like 3 times (they kept sending replacements) they do have some decent cheap coolers on Amazon though,
It's probably a copy of a very old Zalman cooler and the RGB is only R, G, B lol
Cheap kids?????
11:20 not that it’s acceptable, but the ground wire could be meant for outlets that don’t have a ground pin hole. In this case you could take advantage of the grounded screw on the outlet cover
You should test out some Wish monitors low to high end , hopefully brands we never heard of or only sort of hear of on this side. Maybe some mice, keyboards and headsets too.
18:30 - Linus trolling us when he plugs the SATA drive into the optical drive with a grin on his face. 😂
I was looking for a comment about this.
I can't believe they still make those clear fans. I literally had the same fan on the PC i bought back in 2005 😂 They even use MOLEX connectors
Yeah even Thermaltake riing trio uses molex, weird but the fans are really pretty.
that grounding cable goes in the center screw of the outlets. some of the older sockets has a grounding connection to the center screw holding the plate to the wall.
I was happy a few years back to find a then 10 years old xeon w3670 to update my 14 years old X58 computer. 6 core 3.5ghz. With a 1080ti it runs all modern games including my vr setup. I was even able to find a trick to use a nvme ssd. I think it's more about maintaining old machines than building from scratch.
I wish more cases had 5.25 inch or as you call it "Optical bays" in them.
Not to fit CD drives, but it is very useful for those hotswap harddrive bays that servers have, pop one in and you have easy access.
Much better usecase than fondling around inside the case for it.
Reminds me of those hard drive trays that were a thing back in the 90's. Completely forgot about that gimmick lol.
I just like having optical drives
Surprisingly enough, the new fractal design pop air case comes with 2 hidden 5.25 inch bays at the base of the case. Its nice to see that some companies still see the utility in being able to use original dvds with game emulators and reading old movie disks.
@@tOSdude Like, as a cup holder? Can't imagine what else you'd use one for.
@@filonin2 I got some older stuff I sometimes need to burn discs for.
Also audio CDs.
the new motherboard without a box is easy to explain, they buy oem boards that come in one package and sell the individually, so of course they don't have the retail box
Or, considering the crooked DVI port, they got a bunch of motherboards that failed QC for cheap. Then sell the ones that work, and maybe fix the ones that don't and then sell those as well
What does oem mean?
@@Jackie89000 original something manufacturer, it is basically parts for factories, just think of how much trash that generates if every component comes with an individual package
@@devforfun5618 oh, so, like just buying wholesale stock? Makes sense.
@@devforfun5618original equipment manufacturer I believe it stand s for
20:50 Linus, you are brave for starting an unknown PC with headphones on and plugged in. I learnt (and am sometimes reminded again) the hard way, that that is a bad idea, as some of my PCs have an uncomfortably loud squeaking noise on start up...
Edit: Well... didn't matter though with that headset... xD
17:34 who noticed the Express in PCI Express 3.0 was spelled Expres. Definitely not actually a gigabyte motherboard
Speaking from experience it ends up on Wish because sellers use multi listing apps or services that list on a bunch of different sites and adjust the list price based on the percentage the site charges. They don’t really expect to make a lot of sales on places like wish but do it anyway because it’s literally hitting a check box so why not?
lol i wonder if that CPU cooler had both a 120mm version and 92mm version and they just grabbed whichever box was in the best shape lol.
i think i need to upgrade to some of that DERAM though that stuff sounds like its 30 years in the future!
lol this was super fun to watch! and i love watching you guys mess around with obscure parts.
It looked to me like they measured the entire thing rather than just the fan. That would technically still make it a 120mm fan. Sneaky.
That ground wire setup is standard in Japan. Though most newer places use GFIs for their outlets the only time you would use a ground is for like large appliances like larger fridges or washing machines. Not great for stuff like guitar amps. Ground hum is awful. Also that GPU brand is a more slightly budget friendly Japanese OEM.
war owl did this for peripherals recently. his mouse did the same thing they have a bad sensor and cant move at high speeds! its fun finding all these little coincidental problems in multiple places
I love how he turns the CPU cooler and it makes the sound a 90-year-old door would make and that instills quite a bit of confidence in the young whimpersnapper.
it didnt help much that the fans he installed were only held on with twisty cable ties. Zip ties would have worked better. I used them once to install an 8cm fan to keep the ram cool on a very ancient compaq desktop pc i was pushing to its limits. It worked suprisingly well for a mcguyver.
that was not the cpu cooler tho im prety sure that was the optical drive cause if you move it while its spinning with a disc it can scratch it
I physically cringed when I heard that sound
8:50 That case is the same OEM style Lenovo used for some of its cheap workstations about a decade ago. I can't remember if it had a model number or any non-Lenovo markings, and right now it's just parked behind my TV being a thoroughly inadequate media PC. Though, the half-height GTX 750 I found made a world of difference. I don't remember which AMD APU it came with, either - some hexacore non-standard woefully underpowered thing.
The screws & screwdriver are for installing the heatsinks onto the "DERAM"
23:25 My entire view on transfer speeds for ssds was demolished when he said that 30mb/s was bad… I get 8.1mb/s when connected to Ethernet and no other applications open
I was actually expecting a Galaxy Z Fold/Flip video, but I’m down for another Wish PC build. If nothing else, it’s a sign that GPUs aren’t in shortage anymore (plus the previous Wish PC build was a super-profitable video).
he will most likely do a shortcircuit about them and nothing more, and the watches its probably jake since he has the previous ones or hopefully its sara butt.
@@LegionRRTX I’d imagine that Linus would want to upgrade his Z Fold 3, so that tracks.
@@Neoxon619 of course he will, since the 3rd one's battery doesn't hold through the day, but that doesn't mean he will do a review, hell, even mkbhd isn't going to do one since the differences between the 3rd and 4th are not worth a video.
@@RisingRevengeance I'm ashamed to say that i was one of the people who bought a 1030 during the shortage. I have since moved on.
@@RisingRevengeance It was ironic because its a bad card and ppl don't like that.
I also then got a prebuilt, which is another source of "shame"
That SSD is so slow, the time it would take to download an 8K render of the LTT screwdriver would be about the same amount of time it'd take for the screwdriver to be available on LTTstore.
I usually install fans to 5v instead of the 12v, full speed problem solved. Worth mentioning I am using old stuff, no edge cutting cpu's or whatever
I have that exact chassis, though branded as Aerocool, aside the comedy power supply faffing it actually makes a nice little server chassis with an X99 board in it...
This is a system after my own heart. I have an i5-4460, stock ass cooler, my rx 580 has 0.5
mm of clearance, and my gpu power cables are smushed so tight inside the case. I have hard drives and an ssd screwed into the mounting holes for a fan because my gpu took up my hard drive space. It’s gotten me through all of covid, so can’t complain too much
That janky grounding pin is something I have seen a lot of on Japanese industrial equipment. Commercial sockets don’t have a ground pin but industrial applications have it as a requirement so the have grounding screws
23:19 he didnt say team fortress 2 but said "game" my day has been ruined.
Oh yeah you can press e for "DOCTOR!" and i think x for other voicelines and z, im prob merging tf2 with tc2 💀 i never knew u play tf2 :O
That ground reminds me of automotive work. You see that a lot around a car.
How did Linus not talk about LTT screwdrivers even once when he used that screwdriver to install the cooler, and when the cheap tiny one that came with RAM broke in half??? I was yelling inside LTT screwdriver!!!
I've also seen that weird plug in the US. It was somewhat common until the late 80s. You could use it to get a grounded connection even with the older 2-prong outlets.
Hey remember the old clips for the Athlon XP? Where your only option was put a flat head screwdriver facing your motherboard, put a load of pressure on it and hope you don't slip, or it's straight out for a new motherboard...
Linus: "This cooler design is at least 15 years old"
Intel: *Heavy breathing intensifies*
The screwdriver might be included to get a different tariff code
The plug with the ground wire reminds me of a Japanese plug. I bought a Sony projector directly from Japan years ago and it had the same ground wire.
Lol, when I saw the price for the case my first thought was "wow the Corsair 4000D airflow I got was cheaper than that" and then Linus immediately follows it up with this 9:54 🤣
19:53 Oh that brings back so many headphone memories
👍 Linus. I've run a twist tie on a massive 180-200 mm case side fan for. . . 12 years? Amd 965BE, 16 gigs of 1333 mhz ram, power supply came with the case. Ssds get swapped whenever I upgrade operating system and it got an RX570 a couple years ago because I think my MOBO runs pcie 2.1 and anything over would bottleneck. I don't game often but, hooked up to my 720p 32" television. . . It does things surprisingly well still. 😆
I'm guessing that the mouse problems were actually mousepad problems. That used to happen to me all the time when the mouse optical laser wouldn't jell with the surface under it.
11:32 That’s one of the standards in Japan. Many outlets here have a ground pin mount under the outlets where you can screw those loose ground wires onto.
Of course we do also have the 3 pin connectors, but not on everything.
Used to be common here in the US as well for the center screw that holds the faceplate on to be grounded. Not sure if that's the case anymore.
@@thedoctor7158 It can be, but not always. Before the standard was metal outlet boxes but now blue plastic ones have become standard. The old metal boxes were always grounded (assuming the installation was up to code). The center screw can still be grounded though, depending on the outlet design. Some outlets connect the ground to the screws, but some don't have that metal tab to connect them.
These days, the answer is a solid "maybe" as to whether or not the screws of an outlet/faceplate are truly grounded. I'd recommend always testing them with a multimeter before assuming that it does have a ground connection.
I had a washing machine with that ground wire connection, but with the US Standard two-pin connection. I'm from México
@@jonny6702 That's why I stated "Used to be common". 5 years ago I bought and old 1930s Sears Craftsman bungalow which I had fully remodeled. Still had the old, disconnected and knob wiring inside the walls along with a mix of newer wiring and old cloth insulated wiring. Was going to replace it all anyway and I did pay extra to have the conduit style and metal boxes installed with proper outlets. This is the last home I will ever own so I wanted it to be done just right.
11:35 That's actually pretty interesting. When I was growing up we lived in an old colonial era house with outdated wiring. Like when I was a kid there were still a few cloth wrapped wires in the basement thankfully those were since replaced. But to this day a lot of the outlets are still 2 pin with the ground being the central screw that holds in the face plate of the outlet. This looks a lot like the 2 - 3 pin adapters we had all over the place that needed to be screwed into the outlet box
Anyone notice at 18:18 Linus plugs the black sata cable into the SSD, then plugs the other end of it into the optical drive? But when they cut away, the sata cable positions are corrected. Ya ain't slick, Linus!
Being in a new home and alone with this playing in the background and 8:43 plays spent 20 minutes checking everything in the house😂
Honestly, sending the screws and screwdriver is pretty nice, they know you're working on a PC and might need one
the "move" that Linus is performing at 6:40 is known in my IT cyrcles as "gently brutalizing" the cooler (and CPU+MB for that matter)
it takes experience to achieve it without bending the motherboard in the process though. Definately something to do BEFORE installing the board in the case.
lol, I call it building with "self clearancing parts."