Absolutely! I love that all these alternatives are in the game. I am grinning the whole time the game has a response to my messing around! Amazing work by Larian ❤️
i have unbridled faith in larians contingencies, there are the wildest most out there back up plans of back up plans that will keep the game moving smoothly, it is insane
That seriously caught me off guard when he started legging it afted me. I like to imagine he was coming to ask me if i felt any unfamiliar weights in my pack 😆
You trying to enter act 2 without the prisim? I've done this on accident. 1) Rescue Shadowheart on the nautaloid ship. 2) Make sure Shadowheart dies in the boss fight on the ship. Do not revive her. 3) Finish the ship. The instant you make it to land, long rest. You should get the cutscene of the prisim going into your inventory. Because Shadowheart is dead and not in your party. 4) Walk down the beach and find dead Shadowheart in her usual spot. Revive her. She will complain that you stole her artifact. 5) Give her the artifact back, but do not recruit her. I am unsure if these steps are necessary. But I finished the rest of Act 1, did all the content I am aware of. Talked with Shadowheart when I was forced to at the goblin camp, but never recruited her. I was doing a solo run, so I didn't recruit anyone and was kinda curious how they would get her/the prisim into my party if I just kept saying no. Then I entered Act 2 (I believe through the mountain pass), and never got the prisim. However the game treated me as if I had it. Funnily enough, you can give the prisim that you don't have to the Gith, and then you get it in your inventory when they give it back. Somehow. So that's how I ended up getting it. If you don't want it, don't go near the creche. Pretty sure the bug is caused by the script triggering it to fly into your bag if Shadowheart dies and is not in the party. Then you give it back to her, and don't recruit her. So when you go to act 2, the game already triggered the "give the player the prisim" flag so it doesn't do it again. *I've not attempted to recreate it. It's just the bug I found a while back.
Honestly, this lowkey makes me wish that if you keep avoiding her, you'd be brainwashed to join the absolute. Then maybe Shadowheart appears later in act 2 then you'll see how the artifact will actually help you. Kinda like a Minthara situation.
I really wish they had given us a way to get cured at the end of act 1 or atleast mid through act 2. IMO a ton of the story elements from the beta were better than the release (namely the dreamer)
Not sure if it was ever suggested, but how about entering into combat at the Githyanki bridge or Goblin Camp and just dashing towards act 2? 🤔 Or, if you know precisely where she will spawn in certain areas, trying placing Glyph of Warding at max distance so she triggers the trap the moment she appears, which will either explode or put her to sleep depending on the type of Glyph you use. Goodluck!
Oh I love both of these ideas!! Definitely giving these a shot! Thank you so much. I wonder if a sleep glyph will do the same as lobbing a grenade? Time to find out 😆
@@Souls4Hire the first idea miiight need some tweaking - in my playthrough, I triggered the githyanki ambush and tried to sprint past, but got the "not right now" message. However, IIRC I think I *was* able to get to act 2 mid-combat through the mountain pass by splitting the party and having the spare member sneak past out of combat
I had tinkered with this idea for speedrunning for a while; seems impossible. I was able to get a step further than you by trapping shadowheart in dialogue back at the grove while the cutscene was triggered. When the dialogue at grove ends it assumes the dialogue at artifact scene also ended and you never get the artifact. Because you dont have possession of the artifact you still trigger the first half of the cutscene over and over infinitely though making it impossible to progress. Only way to fix once youre in this state is to have already prepped a glitch to teleport shadowheart back to you (i think she goes to a dev room and essentially dies with the artifact in hand if you do this)
There is also a glitch that allows to rest in world without entering the camp. Basically you need to activate a long rest button menu up to the moment when you need to confirm it by pressing OK. On that moment you need to cancel it and rotate your game camera the way that the window with OK option will be on the same screen spot as one of your companion. So, when you select long rest option again and the tab with OK confirmation appears, you press OK and spam on left mouse button on that place so it activate dialogue with companion right before the screen goes black. This breaks the rest script. It might help to avoid that cutscene with artifact jumping into the characters hands
Have you tried to kill hireling with the artefact received, then hide his corpse inside a container (you can try to toss a barrel with a corpse into a chasm, it works with other quest items) and leave Act 1 with the rest? Just an idea, I don't know it works or not.
I did actually manage to do this - as it turns out, the game plays totally normally and just assumes you have the artifact. So it still shows you having it in all the cutscenes, its just not in your inventory.
On the moment when you switch from one character to another during the cutscene, you can use fast travel to grymforge and enter act 2 from there. So, the absolute cutscene in mountain pass will be in process on one of the characters, meanwhile main character will join act 2 from grymforge
If you free Shadowheart and she died (Regardless of how), she will be back to full health and act she didn't die among the nautlioid. I know this because she died from trying to explode the barrels to kill commander zhaik. I didn't have enough turns left to revive her so I just left the nautiloid and there she was, on the shore.
@@Souls4Hire I had something happened to my game recently. When I freed Shadowheart on the Nutaroid, she just... vanished. She wasn't there. And on the land, she wasn't there either. When Absolute started talking, she wasn't there to save us... then I just woke up in my camp with the artifact in my pocket.
@@Souls4Hire after that, the game just proceeded like normal, simply without Shadowheart. But it was weird, her just deleting herself from the game like that
There was a glitch that allows to get rid from quest items. Player need to place a chest into his inventory, then put the artifact inside the chest and then drop off the chest from the inventory So, how about knocking down shadowheart without killing her on the beach from far distance, then crunch to her alive body with invisible spell, put some chest inside her inventory, then place artifact inside of it, then drop the chest off into the sea and then use resurrect scroll on shadowheart, while being in stealth? As far as I understand it, the script with the artifact jumping into the characters hands appears only if shadowheart dies completely.
I swear the game forced Shart as the canon love interest or at least secondary main character all troughout act 1 and 2 . The others barely have any thing to do up till act 3 😅
DM literally said: "Fuck it, it suddenly appears in your inventory and you can't get rid of it" 😂
Hahaha the DM is regretting inviting troublemakers to play 🤣
“A bird drops it out of the sky on your head, it falls into your hand and you can’t let go of it. You also take some damage”
@@piratekingomega3292and as you been testing my saniti why dont we test your luck! Roll a d100
@@piratekingomega3292 A swallow*
Now roll for nature to recognize if it was european or african swallow
A new hand touches the Beacon!!
"A new hand touches the beacon"~~
Didn't think I could still have a visceral reaction to that, and yet here I am, clenching away
Oh god, the trauma.
You know you are in deep trouble when Wyll is chasing you. SILENTLY.
I now understand why Karlach was running from him. He's terrifying 🤣
Just imagine him running towards them like Earl from Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs
Larian worked hard to ensure we don't derail the story while giving us the freedom to choose the journey.
Absolutely! I love that all these alternatives are in the game. I am grinning the whole time the game has a response to my messing around! Amazing work by Larian ❤️
And this is the thanks they get.🥺🥺🥺
You know what. Fine.
Absolute dominates you and turns you into a mindflyer
Game Over
~GM that has enough of your bs
@@michasokoowski6651 I wish there was that ending. I kind of expected it actually. Unless it is and I just haven't seen it.
@@Valorene There actually is...
Couldn't stop laughing when Wyll just started chasing after you 😂
I just want to know why he was the only one 🤣.
Stalkerheart 😭
1:49 You think this is how Karlach lost Wyll lol
Imagine if you get that cutscene enough times the unfamiliar weight is just an ignited runepowder bomb
THERE IS A PIPE BOMB IN YOUR MAIL SONG
i have unbridled faith in larians contingencies, there are the wildest most out there back up plans of back up plans that will keep the game moving smoothly, it is insane
Totally agree! I absolutely love discovering all the interesting scenarios they considered someone trying!
lmao Wyll chasing you
That seriously caught me off guard when he started legging it afted me. I like to imagine he was coming to ask me if i felt any unfamiliar weights in my pack 😆
"Dude I'm not gonna call you The Blade of Frontiers leave me alone"
You trying to enter act 2 without the prisim? I've done this on accident.
1) Rescue Shadowheart on the nautaloid ship.
2) Make sure Shadowheart dies in the boss fight on the ship. Do not revive her.
3) Finish the ship. The instant you make it to land, long rest. You should get the cutscene of the prisim going into your inventory. Because Shadowheart is dead and not in your party.
4) Walk down the beach and find dead Shadowheart in her usual spot. Revive her. She will complain that you stole her artifact.
5) Give her the artifact back, but do not recruit her.
I am unsure if these steps are necessary. But I finished the rest of Act 1, did all the content I am aware of. Talked with Shadowheart when I was forced to at the goblin camp, but never recruited her. I was doing a solo run, so I didn't recruit anyone and was kinda curious how they would get her/the prisim into my party if I just kept saying no.
Then I entered Act 2 (I believe through the mountain pass), and never got the prisim. However the game treated me as if I had it. Funnily enough, you can give the prisim that you don't have to the Gith, and then you get it in your inventory when they give it back. Somehow. So that's how I ended up getting it. If you don't want it, don't go near the creche.
Pretty sure the bug is caused by the script triggering it to fly into your bag if Shadowheart dies and is not in the party. Then you give it back to her, and don't recruit her. So when you go to act 2, the game already triggered the "give the player the prisim" flag so it doesn't do it again.
*I've not attempted to recreate it. It's just the bug I found a while back.
Oh thankyou so much!! I have been building a list of more shadowheart avoiding tricks and this is a new one! Gonna have to test this out. Thankyou! 😄
@@Souls4Hire Happy to help. Hope it works for you like it did for me :)
The silence spell can stop conversations from happening inside of it. Maybe that could do something?
Oh! I didnt even think of that. That was a trick people were using on Raphael wasnt it? Time to go drop it on Shadowheart! 😃 thankyou!!
Imagine Larian makes them have the entire conversation through the tadpole in response
Shadowshart is Absolute
Honestly, this lowkey makes me wish that if you keep avoiding her, you'd be brainwashed to join the absolute. Then maybe Shadowheart appears later in act 2 then you'll see how the artifact will actually help you. Kinda like a Minthara situation.
I would have loved that! I was honestly expecting it to turn me into a mindflayer and end the game!
I really wish they had given us a way to get cured at the end of act 1 or atleast mid through act 2. IMO a ton of the story elements from the beta were better than the release (namely the dreamer)
Why don't you try killing tav and despawning the hireling that gets the artifact
Not sure if it was ever suggested, but how about entering into combat at the Githyanki bridge or Goblin Camp and just dashing towards act 2? 🤔
Or, if you know precisely where she will spawn in certain areas, trying placing Glyph of Warding at max distance so she triggers the trap the moment she appears, which will either explode or put her to sleep depending on the type of Glyph you use.
Goodluck!
Oh I love both of these ideas!! Definitely giving these a shot! Thank you so much. I wonder if a sleep glyph will do the same as lobbing a grenade? Time to find out 😆
Glyph won't work as she won't be considered an enemy
@@Souls4Hire the first idea miiight need some tweaking - in my playthrough, I triggered the githyanki ambush and tried to sprint past, but got the "not right now" message. However, IIRC I think I *was* able to get to act 2 mid-combat through the mountain pass by splitting the party and having the spare member sneak past out of combat
I had tinkered with this idea for speedrunning for a while; seems impossible.
I was able to get a step further than you by trapping shadowheart in dialogue back at the grove while the cutscene was triggered.
When the dialogue at grove ends it assumes the dialogue at artifact scene also ended and you never get the artifact.
Because you dont have possession of the artifact you still trigger the first half of the cutscene over and over infinitely though making it impossible to progress.
Only way to fix once youre in this state is to have already prepped a glitch to teleport shadowheart back to you (i think she goes to a dev room and essentially dies with the artifact in hand if you do this)
Oh this is so interesting! I might experiment with this and see if theres a way to move forward! Thankyou 😃
I don't know why, but ignoring her entirelly makes me feel better lmao
Haha I feel like if this were IRL I would *have* to approach and be like "alright you, who are you and why are you following me!?" 😆
@@Souls4Hire I would be on guard all the time, because this is creepy lmao
wyll chasing you down lmao
what if you try going through the underdark via the spider den?
I had Shadowheart die on the Nautoloid but unfamiliar weight in my pack. 😅😅😅
Hahaha survived the ship crashing just to discover free goods in your bag 🤣🤣
Have you considered filling your inventory to the maximum and then triggering it so there'd be no space to pick it up?
That is such an interesting idea!! Adding that to my list! Thankyou
@@Souls4Hirenah that won’t work. I recall accidentally pressing “take all” in my camp chest and the weight actually managed to surpass my limit
@@nathanieljefferies5491what a nightmare i hope it never happens to me
They really thought of everything the bastards.
and if you lock her in conversation at the door with a separated mercenary and take your tav to the next zone without ending the dialogue?
Definitely going to give this a go! Thankyou!! 😃
There is also a glitch that allows to rest in world without entering the camp. Basically you need to activate a long rest button menu up to the moment when you need to confirm it by pressing OK. On that moment you need to cancel it and rotate your game camera the way that the window with OK option will be on the same screen spot as one of your companion. So, when you select long rest option again and the tab with OK confirmation appears, you press OK and spam on left mouse button on that place so it activate dialogue with companion right before the screen goes black. This breaks the rest script. It might help to avoid that cutscene with artifact jumping into the characters hands
Have you tried to kill hireling with the artefact received, then hide his corpse inside a container (you can try to toss a barrel with a corpse into a chasm, it works with other quest items) and leave Act 1 with the rest? Just an idea, I don't know it works or not.
This is a really interesting idea!! I'll add this to the list. Thankyou so much!
@@Souls4HireYou're welcome, I hope it will work ;)
Really cool to try some crazy stuff "what if" 👍
Thank you so much! 😊
I wonder if it’s possible to kick shadowheart out of nautoloid while its in hell lol.
5:14 kobe
Try using silence
Maybe Hack your character into act 2 and see how long for the game to mess up
I did actually manage to do this - as it turns out, the game plays totally normally and just assumes you have the artifact. So it still shows you having it in all the cutscenes, its just not in your inventory.
I wonder if after you kill her in the grove, if you avoid her body will it just appear with your stuff lol
Haha yea it does 😅
On the moment when you switch from one character to another during the cutscene, you can use fast travel to grymforge and enter act 2 from there. So, the absolute cutscene in mountain pass will be in process on one of the characters, meanwhile main character will join act 2 from grymforge
Oh i didnt think of this! 😃
Did I see shadowheart suddenly appear at 3:04/3:05?
Yup! She loves just popping into the world to accost you haha
what if shadowheart jumped off the nautlioid
If you free Shadowheart and she died (Regardless of how), she will be back to full health and act she didn't die among the nautlioid. I know this because she died from trying to explode the barrels to kill commander zhaik. I didn't have enough turns left to revive her so I just left the nautiloid and there she was, on the shore.
WYLL NO
Oh I do love trying to screw with the game, only for it to screw with you in return ;D
I havent managed to outsmart the game yet 🤣. Larian are 3 steps ahead every time!
@@Souls4Hire I had something happened to my game recently. When I freed Shadowheart on the Nutaroid, she just... vanished. She wasn't there. And on the land, she wasn't there either. When Absolute started talking, she wasn't there to save us... then I just woke up in my camp with the artifact in my pocket.
@@kidprince8578 Oh I wonder what happened!!
@@Souls4Hire after that, the game just proceeded like normal, simply without Shadowheart. But it was weird, her just deleting herself from the game like that
@@kidprince8578 she was too busy stalking @Souls4Hire since they were avoiding her so hard.
There was a glitch that allows to get rid from quest items. Player need to place a chest into his inventory, then put the artifact inside the chest and then drop off the chest from the inventory So, how about knocking down shadowheart without killing her on the beach from far distance, then crunch to her alive body with invisible spell, put some chest inside her inventory, then place artifact inside of it, then drop the chest off into the sea and then use resurrect scroll on shadowheart, while being in stealth? As far as I understand it, the script with the artifact jumping into the characters hands appears only if shadowheart dies completely.
I swear the game forced Shart as the canon love interest or at least secondary main character all troughout act 1 and 2 . The others barely have any thing to do up till act 3 😅
I think it's Lae'zel tbh she has so much involvement with the main plot.
Can you not have Shadowheart kill herself in the intro with the artifact?