Gnostics 1/4 - Knowledge of the Heart
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- "In 1945 an Egyptian peasant discovered a collection of early Christian scriptures - the Nag Hammadi Codices, which revealed the existence of a Gnostic version of Christianity. Gnostics (derived from the Greek word gnosis - meaning `knowledge') felt that they could get to know God, and their own soul, going a step beyond faith. Their message, and the words of the `Gnostic Gospels' were buried in the sand of the Egyptian desert. Some scholars now believe these scriptures to be just as authentic, if not more so, than the books we collectively know as the New Testament."
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Books:
The Gnostic Gospels - amzn.to/32jbmqv
The Gnostics: Myth, Ritual, and Diversity in Early Christianity - amzn.to/3j1ZGP1
I cannot get enough. Now I know why church NEVER satisfied me!
you are on the road to Hell following a dangerous heresy. Return to the fold lest you perish.
facts i was sleeping in church growing up
If you really want to blow your mind search 'The Secret Esoteric Knowledge of the Christ Within', I know it sounds sensational but it's superb
Gnostics was a 1987 four-part drama-documentary series made by Border TV for Channel 4 (UK). It was re-broadcast in 1990. The writer of the series, Tobias Churton, also released an accompanying book.
The body of the programmes was compiled of documentary material on Gnostic movements and the Cathars. Among those interviewed were academics and writers Hans Jonas, Gilles Quispel, Elaine Pagels and James Robinson, as well as Muhammad Ali al-Samman who unearthed the texts at Nag Hammadi.
Dramatised sections were acted by Nigel Harrison (as the Gnostic Christ) with other actors including Brian Blessed, Marius Goring and Ian Brooker.
Jesus said "the truth will make you free" so the knowledge is the key of our delivery..
You get it , see you in paradise brother. How glouriuos it shall be. God bless you ,
The truth of who he is and what he came to do for us, that he was God in the flesh and that through his sacrifice we can receive salvation, that there is no other way.
He already warned about gnosticism before he rose up and ascended to heaven, he told us that many "Jesus" will rise, with different doctrines, false pastors, fake prophets,and that they will change the knowledge of the truth for a lie.
Be still and KNOW that you are Divine!!!
I wonder how many priceless discoveries have been destroyed as carelessly as the nag hammadi tests were nearly destroyed....
Illuminatus Pythagoras Innumerable to say the least. And half of that intentionally. Sad...
Luckily, unlike orthodox teaching and dogma, the secret knowledge reveals itself directly to individuals and requires no written or even oral transmission. The ignorant can no more harm Gnosis by burning books than they can destroy souls by burning bodies.
Illuminatus Pythagoras Beautifully Put.
There's no telling.
Illuminatus Pythagoras
It's been cultural practice for most groups "of faith" throughout the history of the world to destroy anything that doesn't align with what they believe at the time. Look at the barbaric activities of Daesh (the so-called Islamic State) in Syria, and all it's destroyed.
The Library of Alexandria comes to mind for me as well: isn't it widely believed now that it was deliberately torched? And personally I find the existence and practices of the Vatican Library totally outrageous: how dare it think t has the right to lock human thoughts away from the rest of humanity?
I don't actually agree with you that secret knowledge remains and reveals itself no matter what. I think from any point in history, the prevailing worldview of the time filters what can be realised and occludes some modes of thought. There are places you can't get from the current way of seeing things -- as a tiny example, millennials now have no hope of understanding, say, the flower power movement of the 60s (and I don't mean agreeing with it; I just mean understanding it as a way of responding to the world). If we didn't know about Gnosis from texts like the Nag Hammadi books, I doubt we would be able to envision it now.
That's why the documents (say, in the Vatican Library) are so vital, because those written by those who had another vista open to them wrote to open doors of thought we may not even be able to imagine.
Congratulations Border Television in producing a great series.
my heart shouts truth. Brilliant share, thank you
Reading the comments seems like ppl are more concerned about the race of the actor playing Jesus than the actuall message of the video. Its really quite sad.
Well, the producers of the film had a choice in who they used to represent a Jewish 1st century middle eastern man and they chose a Brit of Viking extraction. It is telling and certainly muddies the message.
Internet sad or Psychiatric sad? I REALLY want the knowledge, an appreciation of the best stuff, AND the white dude with a blonde perm borders on Monty Python-esque FUNNY to me. It would have only been more humorous if Benny Hill had played Jesus (Benny Hill soundtrack included). I don't care about the pigmentation of those who might roleplay a perspective that awakens me to Spirit - I don't care about skin pigmentation politics/philosophy/wars of ignorance at all.
@@harkmi3 If its the message you want, then blondie doesn't muddle anything. What is really happening is that Mr. Metro-Blonde is breaking the fairy tale/fantasy of what Jesus looked like. The idea that only certain pigmentations are "allowed" to roleplay Jesus bar Joseph is silly. I do find it funny myself just because it is a bit Monty Python-esque, but with most videos where "talk" is the main or only relevant action I often listen while I do other stuff on my pc - so I wouldn't have to look at Snow White for the duration of the video.
Peace
@@bruceburns332 the physical body is a only a meat suit that covers the souls. It matters not to me the color of the skin or anyone who knows himself to be a spiritual being temporarily having human experience.
@@Gnosis33 I also consider myself Gnostic (assumption based on your name). I am fairly literal with my limited knowledge thus far. The meat suit as all things "in creation" are just phantasms. A "light show" projected upon the Nothing which is the Kenoma. Even soul will be discarded upon awakening fully to Spirit.
That's a very young Elaine Pagels. I wonder when this film was made.
I have long admired Elaine Pagels. Her insight and understanding is monumental.
Light of the universe. Yes yes yes. Amen.
Thanks so much for sharing... i waited years to finally find this again
Thanks for upload
"If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."
THIS is the root of addiction and self-destructive behavior.
those scripts have changed my life. I am a drunk and always thirsty for more.
Too much exposure on light can blind you
I examined myself, and gave myself anxiety and major depression. So I had to give my heart back to Jesus.
The ego is filled with anxieties and other mortal concerns. The Tue Self is behind any mortal grief and sorrow. When Jesus says know yourself or examine yourself, he is talking about your eternal self/soul without name and form
no self ownership no self responsibility then no freedom . cant make a beggar into a King !
two broken arrows - Please stop. The more you make Jesus a NOUN the more you will stay lost.
We are here because we are imperfect, we are imperfect because we lack self-observance. Only with self-observance can one eliminate desire. And only when desire is eliminated can one be perfect. We are tainted by desire. Desire is all there is to fear, for it is desire that has put us here.
Al Patino
A little boudhist here ?
@Michael Mahogany I disagree I don’t owe anything.
I am a Christian i believe in Jesus Christ and Jesus came and died for our sins on the cross no other did that for us. God is creator we are created.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, i am the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh unto the father, but by me.
So your saying you desire to be without desire?
Elaine is a scholar and goes about this as such. She doesn't delve into the essence of the teachings. She maintains her professor/scholarly status. I prefer John Lamb Lash who goes in deep and explains the esoteric of these teachings and that, in my opinion is the true essence, the mystery of the nag hamadi texts.
"Examine yourself, that you may understand who you are."
This is the same thing Don Juan Matus told Carlos, when he said that a man of knowledge must stalk himself.
yes this everyone say. even socrates
Powerful this has relevance in my life I hope I'm worthy at the end of the journey .
pearl among swine, that man had no idea what he had
Gnosis is alive and well. It is not a secret. The information and answers are all around us, all one has to do is ask.
Came back to this after many years to realize how deeply this documentary affected my spiritual development. And I see why, it’s very well done. Informative and beautifully shot
And while not physically looking like Jesus, the actor playing this Gnostic Christ really personifies & radiates the energy of the saying themselves. Sort of Shakespearean in his acting too which is kind of neat in a hammy sort of way.
To say that God is within us is an orthodox belief, when properly understood.
There is no better, explanation , purposeful, ancient , original version of Christ teachings that has never been corrupted with dogma, but yet still held a higher knowledge of the divine within , each of us,,..it took all my life to know what to me has always been hidden and feared, yet so true , and as hard as I tried , I could never understand Religion and I always felt deep down,..that ,Hell , and the sorrows of Physical life had to be a hell all of its own , and just saying a repentance . just never went far enough spiritually , then what is more spiritual knowing ? . incarnating on a painful earth, or freedom of knowing God is within you ? nothing explained from any other point, seemed right with 1000s of interpretations amid much proof that the Bible was edited from Counsel of Nicea to the King James , &..Francis Bacon version ,
Yes ... I've said for many years we are actually living in the underworld!!!
The true teachings of Yeshua (Jesus, Joshua) was absolutely hijacked by the Romans and used for such ill purposes that Yeshua would not recognize it for what He meant.
If anyone wants to fully comprehend the true meanings of Yeshua’s teachings, parables and other hidden meanings in the OT as well,..check out Bill Donahue videos. (Joan Donahue). Get a good book called Gaskell’s Dictionary of Scriptures and Myths for starters. You will understand the Bible in the way it was meant. Peace and Blessings to all! ❤
Celtic Christianity in Britain was gnostic in principle but Rome abolished it at the synod of Whitby in 7th-8th century
Man of Ego and Stupidity find these teachings as a threat, so they never disclosed them, or if they had them, they were secretly taken from their midst and hidden because of their unrighteousness.
Getting upset over a documentary's depiction of Jesus' physical form is as removed from gnosis as on can get, but its par for course in today's world where the new "Woke" religion taking over society obsesses over physical "intersectionality" and identity politics. To a gnostic, complaining about Jesus' skin color is like complaining about the color of a prison cell's wallpaper. On a related note, I've seen many people foolishly relate gnosis to trans nonsense as though the gnostics would sympathize with people so obsessed with their physical form that they would undergo horrible invasive surgeries to make it match how they "feel."
This is what always happens to belief systems that go against the grain of our current society. Wokeists try to steal the message and frame it as something it’s not.
Self multilation doesn't make a person happy but they insist.
Well put Paul. Self mutilation is Persona Possession by Jungian terms
@@racypies You people are fucking insane
Put on your tata little girly
Thanks so much for this! Shared.
where's the bit where the dude with glasses was saying how gnostic sermons said for you to "wake up your immortal spitit"? i can't find it
at 1:43 I thought he was going to start with: I HAVE EXISTED SINCE THE MORNING OF THE WORLD AND I SHALL EXIST UNTIL THE LAST STAR FALLS FROM THE HEAVENS!
They hylics have no capacity to understand this exhortation to "examine thyself, and know thyself". They also cannot possibly act upon it. A significant point, one which is not addressed in this video, which falsifies the Gnostic doctrines by omitting this crucial point. This point, of the absolute antivalence of the Spiritual and the hylic man is then pretended to be merely parts of the same universal man, ubiquitously. As if it referred to every man as spiritual with a hylic element. Actually, every Spiritual man does have a hylic element (if he is embodied here in this world), but not every hylic man has a Spiritual component, and this is a crucial thing to know about this world.
Interesting does this make George Fox and the Quakers Gnostics?
you will know the truth and the truth will make free
free from all religion and all masters self ownership and self responsibility is the only true freedom. as morals decline freedoms disappear .
@@churchofnaturallawulc6974 jesus is real he has come to me in the spirit. The lord gave me hope.
Now I'm almost free of sin. Bless the lord. It rain it pour.
I still can't get over what looks like Muhammad Ali eating a fly at 23:50 lol
+Daniel Thomas George Blaney I had to check...you are correct sir. RB
+Daniel Thomas George Blaney Did you get over it yet :l ?
+supernovaslight aye, I did.
Thanks goodness, i have to worry no more then.
+supernovaslight Your not worried about the fly?
...A description, so much more resonating, that as it was meant to be -
This does not have to replace, rather to enhance one's understanding and at whichever view one is naturally "naturally" drawn to, from the first memory of one's attention to understanding God, the meanings and purpose of one's self in the creation -
I love you, Albino, Shakespearean British accent, Jesus! :0)
I'm a white gnostic, for Pete's sake can I have a little fun with my own skin color? :0(
The real Jesus would not have looked like this fellow, in all likelihood. To be truthful I wasn't there. ;0)
Peace be on you big white tiger, I'm just a an albino pussycat. ;0)
lmao . It's just so ridiculously off that it distracted me from being able to get into this video! They could have at least given him a tan and some dark hair dye if they had to cast a white guy! Pretty sure its the actor who played adam sandlers caddy in Happy Gilmore!😂😂
Something Clever
You said it, come back and watch again and you'll see much more, I hope.
*****
Agreed. ;0)
Jack Passmore
And i love you Jack, you made me laugh at 5 am, pre coffee.
its a miracle!!
Thank you for this X
lol I had hope at first... 70k plus views! Others are discovering! Part two 40k views.. part 3 30k views... part 4 18k... my how they shy away from the light
Cur Coo
lol excellent observation..
These are awesome documentaries. Also take a look at Divinity of man
I believe in the Godhead and think we return to it when we leave this time and place. We are all playing a game in this life in which we play hide and seek with ourselves. We are each and every person the true God. We are on a quest for knowledge which we return to the Cosmic Awareness to share.
*NOOO!!* Christianity emerged from Gnosticism, not the other way around. We have Jesus the Nazorean and Jesus from Nazareth -- but there was no Nazareth in Jesus'es time. Jesus was a Gnostic preacher.
Rursus Secondly there is a confusion between Gnosticism (which today is called Sethianism) and Valentinianism, who Irenaios fought against. Valentinianism did not reject the Old Testament God whom they identified with the Demiurge -- but they claimed that the Demiurge was good ... but ineffective until the emergence of Jesus Christ. The Demiurge submitted under Jesus Christ and therefore suddenly became effective in his fight against Satan. Irenaios make a clear distinction between the Gnostics (i.e. the Sethians) and the Valentinians, whom he termed "heretics".
Rursus Thirdly: the Cathars were not likely to be Gnostics, but instead a late branch of Marcionism. Marcionites were literalist (which the Gnostics *NEVER EVER* were), decidedly anti-Yahweh (which the Gnostics sometimes were, sometimes not). Marcionism gave rise to Paulicianism, which spread to Balkans to found the Bogomils, who spread into south France giving rise to the Cathars.
+Rursus Gnostic
adjective
adjective: gnostic
1.
of or relating to knowledge, especially esoteric mystical knowledge.
gian franco Go teach someone else elementary grammar! Read the church fathers Ireaneus and Origen, instead of teaching trivialities! They clearly use "the Gnostics" as nouns.
+gian franco Right. Except there are "Gnostics" and Gnostics. There is no historical contuinuity between the real Gnostics of antiquity and the modern groups calling themselves "Gnostics". (The exception is of course the Mandeans). Most of them aren't Gnostics, a few of them are somewhat attentive to the Gnostic scriptures, but always with a modern reinterpretation. A temple of Abraxas must be non-genuine, unless you discovered that Mandeans built it.
*Those preoccupied with color of skin are still experiencing the ego mind's Learned Insecurities and applied prejudices* - Imagine him as brown, olive, black - It is in these varied thoughts, my statement proved. We must "go to the soul" and operate from this point with greater clarity and without human body experiencing prejudices.
We are all one energy in identical type... Nice huh?
See Vedanta.
No one's talking about the dude who found the papyri ate some guys heart???
The brain divides. The Heart Unites. Oneness
right or left brain imbalance both lead to ditch
@@churchofnaturallawulc6974 depends on a lot of factors.
That's like saying less efficient 32 cores are better than way more efficient or x4 8 cores which again equals 32 but this time it is with much more efficiency and you can see a lot more.
Mohammed Ali knows how to open hearts XD
And then he ate his heart? WTF :DDD
That's a common ritual among some Arab tribes. Chinese lords used to eat the hearts of their defeated enemies.
At 6:20.....Is that a young Dr. Pagels??
Does anyone know?The scenes around TC 40 are they a movie in itself or made for this documentary?
There is more Scriptures than the 66 books of the bible BUT all must agree with those 66 books
33 light and 33 dark
What they burn its a tragedy.
So yeah basically the guy who discovered the Nag Hammadi library did time in jail for eating the heart of his arch enemy. And he doesn't regret any of it.
😳
@29:51
Thinking cloud above Muhammad Ali:
"Ooops!"
The Orthodox did NOT gain salvation through their faith. They were still imprisoned by the flesh and its associated requisite physical world, including the institution of their religion. Jesus said "You must be IN the world but not OF it." The Gnostic is free of the physical world and is not imprisoned by it. He/She is thereby free to unite with God. Therefore, to the Gnostic, death has no meaning.
Oh... the irony of history and the man who discovered the books! What a sad and brutally horrible story. But perhaps maybe destiny saw him as the most fit of all the potential men in the area to make the discovery? Maybe the others would burn it all or wipe their ends with the pages? I had to take some pauses and take some breaths watching that part.
And he never batted an eye speaking of it ! I know why, but most would not
The story of the discovery of the books of Nag Hammadi is told at 25:25. At 29:15 the discoverer retells the way the books were mostly destroyed while in the possession of his house, and arrogantly states that he doesn't give a damn about it and it never even entered his mind to. Then he is told the significance, in the broadest of terms, about the books, and one can witness the lowliness within him expressed in the changes in his face. A hylic bastard of the lowest sort. Just like all the rest of the hylics, pure bums, spiritual less-than-nothings.
I think the motive for his hideous facial expressions which followed upon hearing the effect of the discovery, or rather what his evil negligence and disrespect allowed of it, reinforced in his mind that instead of boasting that he only got 11 Egyptian pounds for it, he perhaps should have been smart enough to figure out a way to get much more for it... It is probably out of feelings stemming from such low considerations that his face changes into flashes of embarrassment.
He realizes, though, on a deeper level, that he really is not such a saint, not at all, and his entire soul is confused to have led him to boast of his evil acts. Because his motive is not because of a sense of spiritual superiority to a text which has no truth in it, but rather it is the lowest excuse he could give save he found out the text would be worth much much more to OTHERS. He now realizes that his flash of greed for some compensation from all such others overrules his pretenses at piety, and that he'd even wished he kept the complete set of books and guarded them carefully, and gotten wealthy from them.
What scum. What dishonorable scum. I'd gladly go back to that time and adventure my life against his merely for the right to protect those texts. But enough remain that those who have a true claim to know their contents could reconstruct them from their own Nous, and do so in a way tailored to their own needs, simply by reigniting the Truth Within by means of the merest spark of inspiration from ANY source, all the more from as much as what remains from this otherwise nightmarish event.
+The Gnostic Truth "Gnosis is the knowledge of what Christ really means... "
Clothe Christ.. Romans Chapter 13 New Testament
11 And do this, understanding the present time: The hour has already come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. 14 Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the flesh.12 The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
www.iglesianicristo.net, www.incmedia.org
+Amla Esor Saxor
Some of what we think that a Christ would say, understood properly in Truth, would be Gnosticism. But the Gnosis is more than those, yet not in contradiction to it, hence concordant with any and all knowledge, including knowledge which any demon can be trained to spout.
There is a prohibition during Jesus Christ's time.. even practicing the art of casting away demons, will not be Christ's basis in saving people. Here in Matthew 7:22, 23:
"Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name?"
"And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you, depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness."
This is one contradiction between Christianity and Gnosticism.
So a real Christian does not practice the occult arts...
The "heretics", although calling them heretics is anomalous... is part of the doctrine of our church - the victims of the Inquisition. I study social sciences in University so I came to the knowledge of the Cathars. Plus, I speak fluent French. I knew that SW of France is hub of the Albigensians. One day, I wish to visit Montsegur. One question that I have, were the Cathars Jewish or Israelites in race?
Yep,ancient scripts do make good fire..all that knowledge a damn shame...
They are kept secret by the today elite. Do you think they would just burn them without any reason? I mean how BARBORUOUS do you have to be.
Closed captions PLEASE Some of us old folks could use them.
By knowledge the Gnostic should mean self knowledge. Knowledge of everything else is irrelevant for all purposes other than a reality check on your self knowledge. I've had friends that were dogs where I felt great friendship, this wasn't based on the IQ of the dog. What the dog does know is about itself, self knowledge. Salvation isn't needed, it's a delusion just as sin is a delusion, it is an opinion, and opinions cannot save or damn you. People just have to stop beating themselves up. There's no religion that provides self knowledge other than fostering your self guilt so you can perpetually be crying to Dad(God) to forgive you for your inadequacies. Yet as a material being your limitations which foster this feeling of inadequacy will never go away. Just accept yourself. After all what difference does it make if God has technically forgiven you while you still hold on to guilt. It is beyond the power of God to forgive, that power only exist in yourself. Scripture is of no more help in this endeavor than a comic book.
By this i'm very much presuming you associate these such comic scrolls with all other scripture?! For that i will give an Amen brother ; )
Gnosis is not the knowledge of ego self/material man but the inner divine self/soul
The Ability to do Gladly that which Must be Done. - Jung. Truly, Acceptance of Our Limitations. Nice Words .
correction: a valentinian would probably vilify Satan, not the demiurge
They are most likely one in the same, and seem to be related to "Saturn" aka 'father time' and 'Saturnalia' celebration history. The eye in the hexagram pole of saturn is also very similar to the 'eye of sauron' in tolkens LOTR
@@DavyOneness no they’re not. Definitely not in Valentinian systems.
The demiurge isn’t even related to a planet in Sethian systems. There’s 7 planets, 5 other rulers over the abyss, and he’s the 13th.
We are Divine but have been brainwashed since birth to remain human $laves!!!
THE RENACTMENTS YOU SEE ARE THEY FROM A MOVIE IF SO WHICH ONE? LOVE THIS STUFF
Parts of this remind of the rock opera "Tommy" by the WHO...
In case you didn't know,
No g-news is good g-news,
I'm Gary Gnu and this is G-nosis!
All the intellectual information - but do you know yourself? Do you examine yourself? Do you look in the mirror with love? Do you integrate your shadow and learn? I hope so, I really do.
Fascination and hype cannot save us from ourselves, only personal examination, comprehension and elimination can.
Peace to you, from a heretic. 😊
what a creepy jesus
Robert Mengel true dat
Robert Mengel Nazi Jesus.. Who would at least be Mediterranean/Arab/Palestinian looking... here he is albino... too white to even be reasonably nordic
Robert Mengel jesus creepus
Remember when Willem Dafoe played Jesus in The Last Temptation of Christ?
Only I know what you wanted to tell me !
30:37.. you can see the exact moment he realises what he's done... betrayed his own faith by producing coptic Greek scriptures authenticating ideals held to a spiritual competitor.
The Cathars did nothing wrong.
The only true doctrine of Christianity,same as original Buddhism,Advaita-Vedanta,Platonism and Neo-Platonism... It is Monism only, that points to the Truth/Absolute/Non-duality/Brahman/God/Nirvana...
yes
Nemanja Stefanovic
Gnostics were dualistes and their cosmogonies were very complex...
Nemanja Stefanovic
Gnostics were dualistes and their cosmogonies were very complex...
Hep Hopa Valentinian Gnostics were not dualists.. Marcionite gnostics were dualists.
Tyrone Slyce
Maniceans also, etc...
I still dont get into Shakespeare. Ill be zoning 😵💫
I think its fucked that the guy who found them only got 11 egytian pounds as a reward :/ In US dollars, thats about in 60c at least with todays exchange rates and i doubt it was a lot more back then. Man who made such a discovery should not have to live in poverty, if he so wishes. Also the guy is not even mentioned in nag hammadi wiki page, which is just wrong. Someone should do a wiki page for him and link to nag hammadi page.
So be it.
Sorry I'm two minutes in (Gospel of Thomas?) but didn't it start off like the old Kung Fu with David Carradine? very reminiscent and as an actor? David Carradine nailed it lol and I say that understanding the intention of the movie :-)
Jesus roughed it on the road :-) look at anyone roughing it and it's not the outward. Certainly not gleaming like an Egyptian of the time
I'm gonna keep watching but not sure how long.
The blonde dude in whites is Inmendham.
They need to cut out the theatrical Jesus. It’s very distracting and downright silly.
judgement...judgement...judgement...judgement...pmsl !!!!
Why is Jesus played by a blond white man? I thought he was from the middle east...
Tom George Look up the history of Cesare Borgia =) That explains how he ever got to look like European/Norwegian etc..
He was a 15th century italian cardinal according to wikipedia...how does this relate to portrayals of jesus as caucasian?
Tom George There is a theory, quite good actually, that says the church changed the image of Jesus after a portrait of Cesare Borgia. Because Jesus looked just like the jews and muslims that the christians attacked in Jerusalem. So in order not tot kill people who look like ones prophet from that on Jesus became caucasian. A theory, but it wouldn't surprise me. Just as Buddha became asian rather than indian to suit the culture and ethnicity that carried on with the religion.
Aha interesting...the textual accounts of Jesus actual appearance vary wildly according to this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_appearance_of_Jesus
Tom George Indeed! Also his birthday is never mentioned anywhere, the catholic church knows he wasn't born on the 25 december. But that birth of Jesus now celebrated is the ancient celebration of birth of light as it is the winter solstice at that time of year. Then we have the Buddha who wasn't anthropomorphized until the Buddhist in what is now Afghanistan met with the greeks that conquered with Alexander & Co. The greek robes and style made the artist finally to begin depicting the Buddha. So really none of those people looked the way we think of them probably. It was all style, art and whatever suited the current status quo.
My spouse (ireneus) and me(or you) the Valentines guy...lord help us.
So many people are waking up! Religious people are the most asleep
HEY TOM, SO DO MOST JEWS IN ISRAEL.
A blond European playing Jesus? Maybe, if one takes the teachings seriously...
Indeed, it would be wonderful if more if the scrolls and codices had survived intact.
UNfortunately, people finding them were very poor; some needed fuel for their fires more than they needed books.
Also, once they discovered the books had value, some of them broke the remaining ones to smaller bits, to increase how much money they got [thinking more pieces = more money].
We are lucky any made it out to be translated!
Then it was more miracles that they were allowed to be translated at all, and not buried in the vaults of Rome.
+Winter Star "a man of a wheatish complexion with straight hair. I asked who it was. They said: This is the Messiah, son of Mary"
O man, thou art as but I was, for I sought after a knowledge, but thus it was indeed vain, for knowledge indeed comes from God alone and not man. Read thou what thou oughtest to read which is the Word of the living God. The Bible. Run not after vain myths for the apostles did not deliver unto us cleverly devised myths but the Word of life which they handled and saw. As they were on the mount, they heard a voice which came forth from the cloud which overshadowed them, which says to the Son,” Thou Art my Beloved Son, in Thee I am well pleased.” Seek those things which come from the river of life that springs forth and abounds much more into a fountain of life. Read thou the book, if thou wilt. And do not begin to ask vain questions from which springs forth innumerable strifes. Read the Word of truth, for the truth shall verily set you free.
Google: "Blue Eyed Blondes Invaded Israel 6,500 Years Ago: DNA Study"
"my mum burned some papyrus to cook some bread."
I was like: SHE WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU TELLING ME THAT YOUR MOM DESTROYED SOME PAGES OF ANCIENT MANUSCRIPTS THAT COULD CHANGE OR ADVANCE CHRISTIANITY JUST TO COOK SOME BREADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*FACEPALMING SO HARD*
He was in jail for eating a human heart he obtained so he just wasn't around to look after his find that disgusted him anyway. Lovely!
Don't worry, all things on that level happen for a reason. Wasn't time, the time will come
2:45 knowledge of what? "He who knows himself simultaneously gains knowlegde of the ???"
I need to gno, you know?
Dave Oakes of the depths of it all
excitable ppl found the papers at least she didnt burn them all;sigh
the lord ascended the mount and spread his arms out to either side. His majestic white robe matching perfectly his albino complexion. Satan looked up in wonderment
I found one failed explanation here, that being.. 'The Holy Sophia", this requires dissection to get to the roots of what Sophia really is. Briefly..
Sophia = The Mother (of the Demiurge)
Mother = Matrix
Matrix = Matter
Sophia is the Mother of Matter, which is this Matrix we find ourselves trapped within.
It is Sophias energy/Lucifers light WHICH IS TRAPPED WITHIN MATTER thus we perceive it as the visible light spectrum.
It is the duty of the Divine Sparks, which have access to the Father/Christ essence, to transmute and LIBERATE Sophia out of the abomination she created through her ignorance.
There is nothing HOLY about the Black Sophia/Lucifer. She is fallen aspect within us. she is the SOUL of man which MUST REPENT.
Peace to all.
Jesus was not a white man wtf
+KanD Johnson Hello! Look in the comments, it's been explained why and how he became white, there's a very good theory about that.
+lecturesbeyondbeyond Where?
+KanD Johnson Oh, it was maybe in another video of these series. But the theory is based upon Cesare Borgia, a ruler and madman after who's face the new white Jesus got his appearance from. When the Christian fighters went to Jerusalem they found it difficult to kill people (Arabs) who looked like their Jesus. So by making him white it became easier. This is very common, just like Buddha was an Indian and not a fat Asian - each culture that dominate a certain religion make it in their own image. Hope it explained some and more of this you can Google. /All the best
And of course "God" is not a woman either? If after watching this video the only response is to comment on race, then we may as well all give up now.
Alma Klimnt The race is a significant factor to some people simply because bloodline is important to know your heritage.
On the other hand Gender is Important as well "I believe God has no gender being both genders rapped in one"
fuckin' demiurge...
look inside... use double arrow of attention when looking at external always anchored to internal or one will become lost in the world of forms..
soooo jesus had a twin.
yeah, o k.
Nghbrhd Ho Yeah, you x
The first church was built in Turkey.
Looks coincidently alot like pirate paper i used to make as a kid by charring in the oven... but wait noooo, these are the very words that support the definite living Jesus Christ and allow for yet more focus on an outer body of gnosis instead of inner.... jeez c'mon! Goota love the way these folks so impassioned by retelling the story of how he divided it all up, the dutch man goes over to see it, he reads the first words and BAM 'yet more true words of Jesus!! haha classic! I've read the texts and it's a whole lot more of dogmatic hugwash but heck it's not my journey, i'll leave the religious zealots to continue chasing that tail, gunna get it, gunna get it...
going to refute this vdeo with the true Word of God!
not your book
OK, but be sure to spell and grammar check it!
lol it is like something from monty python, did they mean to make a comical Jesus?
Could without that stupid music on opening
Salvation is not knowledge. Salvation is a gift. A gift saving you from wrath And eternal destruction. Giving you eternal life life after death. Knowledge will not save you. Jesus Christ is the only one who can you. Knowledge is not going to save you or help to earn ur way to heaven. Abroad is that leadeth to destruction and narrow is the way that leads to eternal life which is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life. Jesus Christ is the narrow path to life.
blah blah blah lies of the Zionist
That is the whitest Jesus, yet
Google: "Blue Eyed Blondes Invaded Israel 6,500 Years Ago: DNA Study"
Mohamed is a savage.
I didn't know that Jesus was an albino Fraggle. I may need to rethink my faith
racist still not cool even today even against white men
Google: "Blue Eyed Blondes Invaded Israel 6,500 Years Ago: DNA Study"