I watched Renny Doyle and his “detail mafia” guys wipe nearly every car down with his bead maker sealant at The Quail 2019. They all looked streaky and horrid when they got done. The 4 Lamborghini’s that my partner and I rinseless washed using feynlab pure rinseless out of a detail keg and 600 gsm towels, looked the best at the show, and zero streaks or scratches. We even use a second keg with distilled water to rinse off the rinseless wash. We employ a similar technique with the towels during a waterless wash only.
I saw a "major automotive TV celebrity" at the Cavallino show just rubbing the crap out of a recently restored Ferrari Daytona, and wasn't surprised to see that it was swirled all to hell. I just don't get surprised anymore about what we see at shows.
Good tip! I usually use a method like this to remove bird droppings on a freshly cleaned car. Other waterless options on the market doesn’t quite play well with use of my other favorite products.
I’ve used quick detailer once to waterless wash. It was for a car tbag I was selling. I did a full decon wash, clay bar, polish and ceramic spray sealant a week before. It had gathered a bit of dust and bird droppings though so it needed a spritz up before taking pics and selling. I sprayed tonnes on each panel using a seperate towel for each panel. Still felt odd
That Bentayga! That vehicle would look awesome in any of these vids. Love the looks, and the fit & finish on those. Always want to walk up and open and close the doors on 'em, for the "soft close" or whatever it's called
Thanks Max! I was taking care of a car at Pebble Beach years ago, and saw the guy next to me taking care of his 250-series Ferrari with bath towels and napkins!
@@Esotericdetail my neighbor dries his car with bath towels after washing and washes it with a t shirt. Not making this up. I really want to talk to him but I figure if he’s using a t shirt and a bath towel as wash media then he’s far too gone for any help from me!
When my corvette gets a little dust on it I will use my Detail Keg filled up with distilled water only in it and begin to blow all of the dust off of the corvette , and then take my cordless Dewalt leaf blower and blow the Vette dry . Works great !!!
@@Esotericdetail I also agree. Most of these products are marketed like you can wash a super dirty car with them, have zero scratches and leave a long lasting protection behind especially that SHINE ARMOR crap.
@@karolisrum6573 I'm not familiar with that product, but yes, you are correct. And then because so many of these companies market their products this way, it simply means that the majority of people out there are blissfully unaware of the damage they can be doing. When educating the masses, it's best for us to warn people accordingly.
Agreed - that's how I always wash my car - I use the waterless method, but I actually use the rinseless dilution (1:256), so that it's easier to buff away the streaks. I use dimineralised water to aid with streak removal for the final pass. (this is on a black car - currently in a silver car, and I don't need to bother with the water)
We don't sell it because we don't use it. We used to sell it, but since we didn't use it, it didn't make sense. We're the opposite of most resellers in that we sell what we use, and not the other way around.
You're taking things out of context a bit with that summation. No, we do not condone using QD "between washes". And in this video, we still say that you shouldn't at car shows, but if one feels the absolute necessity to "clean" the car, then liberally using a soapy water solution would be the best bet. If you tried to use a QD the same manner that I show here, you'd have a big streaky mess.
Why not use a pressure washer with demineralised water, and then blow dry it, to avoid contact? We're only removing the loose dust, so wouldn't that work? Use a cordless washer if there's no power.
How would you get a pressure washer to a car show in a sports car? For these instances, it's all about what you can fit in a small bag in a small trunk.
@@Esotericdetail hire someone for the show perhaps - one person available as required. I have no idea whether the pressure washer idea would be effective - just wondering that's all.
That could potentially be an option, but as with "waterless wash" solutions, people put way too much trust in a product like this...thinking it's a perfectly acceptable and equally safe method as a traditional wash.
@@Esotericdetail I would argue that ONR (as a rinseless wash) can be as safe or safer than a traditional wash when done correctly...pressure washer to knock off heavy dirt/grime, pre-spray with ONR, etc. I don't do car shows, but if I did...I would do a traditional wash at home and then head to the show with a bucket of ONR, spray bottle and towels and do a quick rinseless wash there.
@@Esotericdetail Agreed - that's the downside of those products. I'm actually using the *rinseless* dilution ratio of ONR, and this works well. (my car is black and shows the streaks "well", so I finish up using plain demineralised water to aid with streak removal. I.e - even the low concentration of 1:256 still produces a bit of streaking on a black car)
I watched Renny Doyle and his “detail mafia” guys wipe nearly every car down with his bead maker sealant at The Quail 2019. They all looked streaky and horrid when they got done. The 4 Lamborghini’s that my partner and I rinseless washed using feynlab pure rinseless out of a detail keg and 600 gsm towels, looked the best at the show, and zero streaks or scratches. We even use a second keg with distilled water to rinse off the rinseless wash. We employ a similar technique with the towels during a waterless wash only.
I saw a "major automotive TV celebrity" at the Cavallino show just rubbing the crap out of a recently restored Ferrari Daytona, and wasn't surprised to see that it was swirled all to hell. I just don't get surprised anymore about what we see at shows.
Hey Tod- I would do this but also add ONR first to help lift the dirt from the paint- Then hit the car with the water and soap and top off with QD.
Good tip! I usually use a method like this to remove bird droppings on a freshly cleaned car. Other waterless options on the market doesn’t quite play well with use of my other favorite products.
I’ve used quick detailer once to waterless wash. It was for a car tbag I was selling. I did a full decon wash, clay bar, polish and ceramic spray sealant a week before. It had gathered a bit of dust and bird droppings though so it needed a spritz up before taking pics and selling. I sprayed tonnes on each panel using a seperate towel for each panel. Still felt odd
That Bentayga! That vehicle would look awesome in any of these vids. Love the looks, and the fit & finish on those. Always want to walk up and open and close the doors on 'em, for the "soft close" or whatever it's called
Thanks for the useful information Todd! It drives me bonkers when I go to a car event and see owners using a dirty “trunk” rag:(
Thanks Max! I was taking care of a car at Pebble Beach years ago, and saw the guy next to me taking care of his 250-series Ferrari with bath towels and napkins!
@@Esotericdetail my neighbor dries his car with bath towels after washing and washes it with a t shirt. Not making this up. I really want to talk to him but I figure if he’s using a t shirt and a bath towel as wash media then he’s far too gone for any help from me!
@@grandfinish2364 Probably a good point. And besides, the paint is most likely so messed up by now that even claying wouldn't make it look any worse!
@@Esotericdetail 😂
Excellent Video - Thank You Again !
When my corvette gets a little dust on it I will use my Detail Keg filled up with distilled water only in it and begin to blow all of the dust off of the corvette , and then take my cordless Dewalt leaf blower and blow the Vette dry . Works great !!!
If I have thin clear coat 3-4 mils is something like perfect finish okay to polish or should I stick to something like uno protect
3-4 mils is thick. 2 mils is thin.
Thanks Todd. But instead of water with a little bit of soap what about using something like Optimum No Rinse (ONR)?
That's been addressed in other comments on this video.
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Why not a good waterless wash product? Seems to me that would have more/better lubrication than distilled water with a few drops of car soap 🤷🏻♂️
We're not fans, particularly since people take it to the extreme and think that they're an acceptable substitute for a traditional wash.
@@Esotericdetail I also agree. Most of these products are marketed like you can wash a super dirty car with them, have zero scratches and leave a long lasting protection behind especially that SHINE ARMOR crap.
@@karolisrum6573 I'm not familiar with that product, but yes, you are correct. And then because so many of these companies market their products this way, it simply means that the majority of people out there are blissfully unaware of the damage they can be doing. When educating the masses, it's best for us to warn people accordingly.
Why wouldn't you just use ONR??
Because they dont sell onr 😂
Agreed - that's how I always wash my car - I use the waterless method, but I actually use the rinseless dilution (1:256), so that it's easier to buff away the streaks. I use dimineralised water to aid with streak removal for the final pass. (this is on a black car - currently in a silver car, and I don't need to bother with the water)
We don't sell it because we don't use it. We used to sell it, but since we didn't use it, it didn't make sense. We're the opposite of most resellers in that we sell what we use, and not the other way around.
So you advise on never using a QD between washes, but water is just fine?
You're taking things out of context a bit with that summation. No, we do not condone using QD "between washes". And in this video, we still say that you shouldn't at car shows, but if one feels the absolute necessity to "clean" the car, then liberally using a soapy water solution would be the best bet. If you tried to use a QD the same manner that I show here, you'd have a big streaky mess.
Could you not just use a very soft feather duster, frequently spinning and brushing out the dust before removing dust of the panel surface?
We don't trust any type of "duster" since they attract and hold onto the debris, then you continue to drag it across the surface over and over.
@@Esotericdetail that's why I mentioned spinning and brushing out between passes.
Why not use a pressure washer with demineralised water, and then blow dry it, to avoid contact? We're only removing the loose dust, so wouldn't that work? Use a cordless washer if there's no power.
How would you get a pressure washer to a car show in a sports car? For these instances, it's all about what you can fit in a small bag in a small trunk.
@@Esotericdetail hire someone for the show perhaps - one person available as required. I have no idea whether the pressure washer idea would be effective - just wondering that's all.
Sounds like a situation for ONR. Put it into the sprayer and use many towels as instructed in this video.
Yea onr was made to encapsulate dirt and dust
Agreed. I would assume the soap he used would leave residue and attract even more dust
@@williamtse4462 Not at all.
That could potentially be an option, but as with "waterless wash" solutions, people put way too much trust in a product like this...thinking it's a perfectly acceptable and equally safe method as a traditional wash.
@@Esotericdetail I would argue that ONR (as a rinseless wash) can be as safe or safer than a traditional wash when done correctly...pressure washer to knock off heavy dirt/grime, pre-spray with ONR, etc. I don't do car shows, but if I did...I would do a traditional wash at home and then head to the show with a bucket of ONR, spray bottle and towels and do a quick rinseless wash there.
Why would a quality quick detailer not work as well as water with a little soap? Wouldn't the QD have more lubricity?
With the amount that you need to use to make it safe, you'd get streaking and smearing pretty badly.
@@Esotericdetail Agreed - that's the downside of those products. I'm actually using the *rinseless* dilution ratio of ONR, and this works well. (my car is black and shows the streaks "well", so I finish up using plain demineralised water to aid with streak removal. I.e - even the low concentration of 1:256 still produces a bit of streaking on a black car)