She was close friends with Allen Dulles' mistress (Dulles was the CIA director who was fired by JFK) and she worked her way into the Oswald's lives by making friends with Marina Oswald through George de Mohrenschildt who did a lot of clandestine work for the CIA and was Oswald's handler after he returned from the Soviet Union. George de Mohrenschildtand introduced Ruth Payne to Maria Oswald. Officer Roger Craig of the Dallas PD saw Lee Oswald get into a station wagon driven by a "negro male" near the Texas School Book Depository shortly after the shooting. When Oswald was confronted at the Police Station in regards to this, Oswald admitted the station wagon belonged to Ruth Payne and said "don't drag her into this." Watch an old documentary titled: Two Men in Dallas. It's a jaw dropper... it's an extensive interview with officer Roger Craig.
Roger Craig's claims in that B.S. interview: a) He saw Oswald flee the plaza in a Rambler station wagon. Flatly contradicted by other witnesses and evidence demonstrating Oswald's true escape route, by bus, where he was recognized by his ex-landlady, and by cab, whose driver ID'd him. Oswald still had the bus transfer in his pocket when arrested. b) Oswald told him in Captain Fritz's office the Rambler belonged to Ruth Paine. Flatly contradicted by every other officer present and by Dallas PD and FBI documents demonstrating Mrs. Paine's car was a Chevrolet. c) He was with Deputy Mooney when they discovered the sniper nest. Flatly contradicted by Craig's own WC testimony. d) He saw 3 shells lined up in a neat row (implausibly) in the sniper nest. Flatly contradicted by officers who actually discovered the nest and scattered shells. e) He saw the recovered rifle was a Mauser. Flatly contradicted by other officers (cops admitted they misidentified the unfamiliar Carcano at first, big deal), by news film, and by CRAIG HIMSELF, in his 1968 interview where he assures the L.A. Free Press he couldn't ID the gun because he "didn't know foreign rifles." f) He saw it was only six past one when he heard Tippit had been shot. Flatly contradicted by other witnesses, evidence, and by Craig himself in his 1968 interview. g) He saw a slug recovered from the plaza grass. Flatly contradicted by every other officer and witness present, and by Craig's own WC testimony. h) There were attempts on his life. No supporting evidence exists, nor is there any explanation of why it would be necessary to "silence" this lying clown when his credibility would have been shredded on the stand by any competent lawyer. Also: de Mohrenshildt had not been a CIA man for years by 1963. You're libeling a lady whose name you don't even know how to spell
You are spewing misinformation and putting your ignorance on display. Ruth's mother-in-law was a friend of Allen Dulles', NOT Ruth, as if it even meant something. Ruth "worked her way" into no one's life. Ruth's 1955 Chevy Bel Air was parked in her driveway on Nov. 22, 1963 at the time of the assassination. Craig was a storyteller with mental problems. When you read untruthful information and lies and maybe watch a couple of conspiracy films, it's not surprising that you regurgitate this kind of rubbish Mr. or Mrs. Closeoutsalesusa.
@@aaronz7056 "Flatly contradicted." Other than the 3 other witnesses who also saw a Oswald look alike run from behind the Book Depository and down the knoll after being whistled to by a dark complected man in a Rambler. (Oswald would later admit accidentally that it was Ruth Paine's car when he said, "That is Ruth Paine's car don't drag her into this.") One of the witnesses said "If that was not Oswald it was his twin brother." Rodger Craig was not alone in stating he saw a Oswald look alike on the grassy knoll.
@@MrJoealesi Hysterically funny. Ruth and Michael Paine visited Allen Dulles's summer home. They absolutely knew Allen Dulles. And they met Oswald at a party that a fellow CIA operative George DeMorehchildt had, and then after Michael moved out she had Marina move in with her. Where she was gracious enough to store the Oswald Rifle in her Garage for 6 months even after the Walker Assassination attempt. And gracious enough to get him a job a month before the assassination at the Book Depository knowing full well that Oswald had attempted to defect and was a Castro supporter. And yet never alerting FBI or Secret Service that she had a Russian Defector's wife with Russian Intelligence connections living with her. Craig was a storyteller with mental problems? You would be too if multiple attempts were made on your life after being voted the Policeman of the Year in the Dallas Police Department in 1960. Craig was murdered. So was Deputy Constable Weitzman.
I visited the house for the first time the very afternoon after this was filmed!!! The tour guide told us she had just been there. It was just a few days before the 60th anniversary. And then, by pure chance, I met Chris Paine right at the very spot where Officer Tippit was killed at Tenth and Patton a few days later. The x had just been painted on the pavement when I got there. In other words, I had a very memorable trip to Dallas last November.
Open challenge to you: call a press conference TOMORROW MORNING, present your ironclad evidence Mrs. Paine is a conspirator in murder and treason, and bolster your own credibility by fearlessly challenging her not to sue you for libel and slander.
The Quaker Housewife who spoke and taught Russian at the collegiate level just wanted to help Marina. Give me a break. The gun was in her garage for 6 months and she didn't know it was there? Please.
@@JewandGreek Ruth Paine: takes in a young mother fleeing an abusive husband, tries to help them get back on their feet, an for that she gets to spend the next 60 years watching armchair detectives and crackpot idiots call her a conspirator without evidence so long as it suits their crackpot "theories..."
@FrankCoffman How about something simple like where was she on that day? Why was her car seen nearby after the assassination? Anything that's not a well rehearsed answer by her at this point.
@@mattclark6482 Those facts are alreayy known. She was at home that day. Her car was NOT seen near the assassination. You are badly misinformed. You have no clue -- just conspiracy hoaxes and lies.
@@mattclark6482 ~ Those facts are already known. She was at home that day. Her car wasn't near the assassination. You are badly misinformed from conspiracy hoaxes.
@@mattclark6482 Those facts are already well-known. She was at home that day. Her car wasn't near the assassination. You're badly misinformed. You know nothing about her.
@@aaronz7056 the Paynes were agency, her entire family spooks. Everyone knows this. The Paynes primary role in the Dallas area was collecting intel on pro Castro individuals in the Dallas area. The Dallas police took away six filing cabinets filled with index cards and reports on these pro Castro members. The Dallas police carried them off. They were also the handlers for Marina and lee. Why doesn't Ruth mention the love letters she was sending to marina when she was in New Orleans. You can see them if you do the research she needed marina back under her supervision. Michael Payne was going to neo fascist meetings with lee gathering intel.
@@aaronz7056 So claims the Russian Speaking Quaker Housewife who spent summers at Allen Dulles's home, and years later was kicked out of Central America trying to assist the Contras and whose Taxes are Classified.
I wonder how Ruth Paine would explain how there were no bullets found in her garage or in Oswald's rooming house. The Expert Assassin and yet he only owned 3 bullets? The other thing I wish she would answer. How long was the rifle stored in your garage?9 months? (counting from March of 63) Or did it only get there after Marina and Oswald returned to Dallas? Did he bring it in your station wagon from New Orleans? Did you pack it in the car? Did you unpack it?
Strange that Mallon doesn't seem to remember oddly citing, at the end of his otherwise worshipful "Mrs. Paine's Garage", a 1990's Frontline documentary in which Michael Paine casually states that *he saw the infamous backyard photo BEFORE Marina moved in w/Ruth* and of course told Ruth about it. They supposedly discussed whether Marina moving in would be "safe." So at the very least, Ruth's "I had no idea Lee had a rifle" is complete bullsh!t. They've both been lying to everyone about that for years, perjuring themselves before the Warren Commission and later the HSCA. What else were/are they lying about?
@aaronz7056 huh? I'm referencing a work by a respected historian who doesn't let his own cited evidence of at least *some* Paine perjury ding in the slightest his whitewash of them. You'd like him. Whaddaya think, I made it up?
@@stayclean777 Why not, conspiracy theorists just make up stuff all the time. Tell you what, we look forward to you becoming a hero by calling a press conference tomorrow morning, presenting your ironclad evidence Ruth Paine is a conspirator in murder and treason, and bolster your own credibility by fearlessly challenging her not to sue you for libel and slander, we'll be waiting.
Donald Trump just said on Joe Rogan's Podcast that the reason he didn't release the full JFK files is because someone involved was still alive. Really makes you think.
CIA would often use individuals who had predilections for taboo behavior. It does so to this day with operations like epstein’s island. Blackmail is at the absolute core of the CIA and has been present since its inception.
The TSBD job was suggested by a neighbor before the motorcade was planned. You don't know anything. Just another conspiracy wacko spreading misinformation.
Why is her house a museum? Sounds like all she knew were the Oswalds. What’s the big deal, right? C’mon, so many fingers are pointing at her and her ex-husband as CIA operatives, especially with some of the people they knew. Oswald was not a lone nutjob. He was highly intelligent. Everything about him says Intelligence. He knew too many other weirdos like David Ferrie and Jack Ruby. He was a patsy, duped by some the worst people ever born into this life. As the people involved have aged well into their 80s and 90s, and most of them deceased now, the truth is coming out. Give it up to Ruth Paine, she’s kept her mouth shut. She knows.
The oldest living CIA agent?
Still being a conspiracy kooky after 70 years is a mental disease.
She wasn't a CIA agent, dummy.
That's a lie. She's a Quaker peacenik, not a CIA agent.
And that is why nothing has been released because the people responsible are still alive
And she is related to the Forbes family 😂
She was close friends with Allen Dulles' mistress (Dulles was the CIA director who was fired by JFK) and she worked her way into the Oswald's lives by making friends with Marina Oswald through George de Mohrenschildt who did a lot of clandestine work for the CIA and was Oswald's handler after he returned from the Soviet Union. George de Mohrenschildtand introduced Ruth Payne to Maria Oswald. Officer Roger Craig of the Dallas PD saw Lee Oswald get into a station wagon driven by a "negro male" near the Texas School Book Depository shortly after the shooting. When Oswald was confronted at the Police Station in regards to this, Oswald admitted the station wagon belonged to Ruth Payne and said "don't drag her into this." Watch an old documentary titled: Two Men in Dallas. It's a jaw dropper... it's an extensive interview with officer Roger Craig.
Absolutely correct
Roger Craig's claims in that B.S. interview:
a) He saw Oswald flee the plaza in a Rambler station wagon.
Flatly contradicted by other witnesses and evidence demonstrating Oswald's true escape route, by bus, where he was recognized by his ex-landlady, and by cab, whose driver ID'd him.
Oswald still had the bus transfer in his pocket when arrested.
b) Oswald told him in Captain Fritz's office the Rambler belonged to Ruth Paine.
Flatly contradicted by every other officer present and by Dallas PD and FBI documents demonstrating Mrs. Paine's car was a Chevrolet.
c) He was with Deputy Mooney when they discovered the sniper nest.
Flatly contradicted by Craig's own WC testimony.
d) He saw 3 shells lined up in a neat row (implausibly) in the sniper nest.
Flatly contradicted by officers who actually discovered the nest and scattered shells.
e) He saw the recovered rifle was a Mauser.
Flatly contradicted by other officers (cops admitted they misidentified the unfamiliar Carcano at first, big deal), by news film, and by CRAIG HIMSELF, in his 1968 interview where he assures the L.A. Free Press he couldn't ID the gun because he "didn't know foreign rifles."
f) He saw it was only six past one when he heard Tippit had been shot.
Flatly contradicted by other witnesses, evidence, and by Craig himself in his 1968 interview.
g) He saw a slug recovered from the plaza grass.
Flatly contradicted by every other officer and witness present, and by Craig's own WC testimony.
h) There were attempts on his life.
No supporting evidence exists, nor is there any explanation of why it would be necessary to "silence" this lying clown when his credibility would have been shredded on the stand by any competent lawyer.
Also: de Mohrenshildt had not been a CIA man for years by 1963.
You're libeling a lady whose name you don't even know how to spell
You are spewing misinformation and putting your ignorance on display. Ruth's mother-in-law was a friend of Allen Dulles', NOT Ruth, as if it even meant something. Ruth "worked her way" into no one's life. Ruth's 1955 Chevy Bel Air was parked in her driveway on Nov. 22, 1963 at the time of the assassination. Craig was a storyteller with mental problems. When you read untruthful information and lies and maybe watch a couple of conspiracy films, it's not surprising that you regurgitate this kind of rubbish Mr. or Mrs. Closeoutsalesusa.
@@aaronz7056 "Flatly contradicted." Other than the 3 other witnesses who also saw a Oswald look alike run from behind the Book Depository and down the knoll after being whistled to by a dark complected man in a Rambler. (Oswald would later admit accidentally that it was Ruth Paine's car when he said, "That is Ruth Paine's car don't drag her into this.") One of the witnesses said "If that was not Oswald it was his twin brother." Rodger Craig was not alone in stating he saw a Oswald look alike on the grassy knoll.
@@MrJoealesi Hysterically funny. Ruth and Michael Paine visited Allen Dulles's summer home. They absolutely knew Allen Dulles. And they met Oswald at a party that a fellow CIA operative George DeMorehchildt had, and then after Michael moved out she had Marina move in with her. Where she was gracious enough to store the Oswald Rifle in her Garage for 6 months even after the Walker Assassination attempt. And gracious enough to get him a job a month before the assassination at the Book Depository knowing full well that Oswald had attempted to defect and was a Castro supporter. And yet never alerting FBI or Secret Service that she had a Russian Defector's wife with Russian Intelligence connections living with her. Craig was a storyteller with mental problems? You would be too if multiple attempts were made on your life after being voted the Policeman of the Year in the Dallas Police Department in 1960. Craig was murdered. So was Deputy Constable Weitzman.
I visited the house for the first time the very afternoon after this was filmed!!! The tour guide told us she had just been there. It was just a few days before the 60th anniversary. And then, by pure chance, I met Chris Paine right at the very spot where Officer Tippit was killed at Tenth and Patton a few days later. The x had just been painted on the pavement when I got there. In other words, I had a very memorable trip to Dallas last November.
But when will you decide to tell the truth? Now you have one foot in the grave!
Supposedly you know the truth that she's hiding? What if she's being forthcoming and you're buying into unsubstantiated allegations?
Open challenge to you: call a press conference TOMORROW MORNING, present your ironclad evidence Mrs. Paine is a conspirator in murder and treason, and bolster your own credibility by fearlessly challenging her not to sue you for libel and slander.
The Quaker Housewife who spoke and taught Russian at the collegiate level just wanted to help Marina. Give me a break. The gun was in her garage for 6 months and she didn't know it was there? Please.
@@JewandGreek Ruth Paine: takes in a young mother fleeing an abusive husband, tries to help them get back on their feet, an for that she gets to spend the next 60 years watching armchair detectives and crackpot idiots call her a conspirator without evidence so long as it suits their crackpot "theories..."
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What a hard hitting interview? Play softball much?
iI suppose you wanted her to be harassed by lies about her being in the CIA.
@FrankCoffman How about something simple like where was she on that day? Why was her car seen nearby after the assassination? Anything that's not a well rehearsed answer by her at this point.
@@mattclark6482 Those facts are alreayy known. She was at home that day. Her car was NOT seen near the assassination. You are badly misinformed. You have no clue -- just conspiracy hoaxes and lies.
@@mattclark6482 ~ Those facts are already known. She was at home that day. Her car wasn't near the assassination. You are badly misinformed from conspiracy hoaxes.
@@mattclark6482 Those facts are already well-known. She was at home that day. Her car wasn't near the assassination. You're badly misinformed. You know nothing about her.
she lies like hell
Ruth Payne was agency
So claims the guy who doesn't even know how to spell her name...
Yes... that is spot on. Read my comment I just posted.
@@aaronz7056 I'm using the British spelling, which is probably the correct spelling, because we developed the language
@@aaronz7056 the Paynes were agency, her entire family spooks. Everyone knows this.
The Paynes primary role in the Dallas area was collecting intel on pro Castro individuals in the Dallas area. The Dallas police took away six filing cabinets filled with index cards and reports on these pro Castro members. The Dallas police carried them off. They were also the handlers for Marina and lee. Why doesn't Ruth mention the love letters she was sending to marina when she was in New Orleans. You can see them if you do the research she needed marina back under her supervision. Michael Payne was going to neo fascist meetings with lee gathering intel.
@@aaronz7056 So claims the Russian Speaking Quaker Housewife who spent summers at Allen Dulles's home, and years later was kicked out of Central America trying to assist the Contras and whose Taxes are Classified.
I wonder how Ruth Paine would explain how there were no bullets found in her garage or in Oswald's rooming house. The Expert Assassin and yet he only owned 3 bullets? The other thing I wish she would answer. How long was the rifle stored in your garage?9 months? (counting from March of 63) Or did it only get there after Marina and Oswald returned to Dallas? Did he bring it in your station wagon from New Orleans? Did you pack it in the car? Did you unpack it?
Strange that Mallon doesn't seem to remember oddly citing, at the end of his otherwise worshipful "Mrs. Paine's Garage", a 1990's Frontline documentary in which Michael Paine casually states that *he saw the infamous backyard photo BEFORE Marina moved in w/Ruth* and of course told Ruth about it. They supposedly discussed whether Marina moving in would be "safe."
So at the very least, Ruth's "I had no idea Lee had a rifle" is complete bullsh!t. They've both been lying to everyone about that for years, perjuring themselves before the Warren Commission and later the HSCA.
What else were/are they lying about?
Can't get enough of you lying, armchair detectives who keep going on libeling this poor lady like you are just gagging to get sued.
@aaronz7056 huh? I'm referencing a work by a respected historian who doesn't let his own cited evidence of at least *some* Paine perjury ding in the slightest his whitewash of them. You'd like him. Whaddaya think, I made it up?
@@stayclean777 Why not, conspiracy theorists just make up stuff all the time. Tell you what, we look forward to you becoming a hero by calling a press conference tomorrow morning, presenting your ironclad evidence Ruth Paine is a conspirator in murder and treason, and bolster your own credibility by fearlessly challenging her not to sue you for libel and slander, we'll be waiting.
@aaronz7056 hahahaha you got blocked by Vince Palamara 😂🤣😂🤣
More conspiracy garbage from a know-nothing nut.
When it comes to not releasing records as some individuals still alive, at this point, they only mean her.
lol welcome to fantasy land!
The conspiracy “theorists” on here are just wacko.
Protect , your family Ruth !!
Donald Trump just said on Joe Rogan's Podcast that the reason he didn't release the full JFK files is because someone involved was still alive. Really makes you think.
She still gives me the creeps.
She's CIA for life and was a handler along with DeMorenschildt...she got upset when her lesbian films were seized by police too...
Total garbage, the more conspiracy novels you read the more lies you will find out.
CIA would often use individuals who had predilections for taboo behavior. It does so to this day with operations like epstein’s island. Blackmail is at the absolute core of the CIA and has been present since its inception.
She hated Oswald because she wanted his Russian wife for herself!!
She wasn't in the CIA. No one "handled" Oswald. You're posting lies.
@@FrankCoffman Your comment lays bare you are a deep stater, they are watching this podcast no doubt.
She is the one who got Lee a job at school...
The TSBD job was suggested by a neighbor before the motorcade was planned. You don't know anything. Just another conspiracy wacko spreading misinformation.
Wrong. The job was suggested by a neighbor whose brother worked at the Book Depository. Conspiracy fantasists never get their "facts" right.
Uh oh looks like an arrest is coming…
Why is her house a museum? Sounds like all she knew were the Oswalds. What’s the big deal, right? C’mon, so many fingers are pointing at her and her ex-husband as CIA operatives, especially with some of the people they knew. Oswald was not a lone nutjob. He was highly intelligent. Everything about him says Intelligence. He knew too many other weirdos like David Ferrie and Jack Ruby. He was a patsy, duped by some the worst people ever born into this life. As the people involved have aged well into their 80s and 90s, and most of them deceased now, the truth is coming out. Give it up to Ruth Paine, she’s kept her mouth shut. She knows.
I think her home becoming a museum is actually a celebration of the Kennedy assassination.
She as real as a leprechaun
probably drinks baby blood too..!