It worked out for Wisconsin The next year they were coached by Barry Alvarez. He transformed Wisconsin from big ten door mat into one of the best teams outside the big two.
@@JeffCirillo well considering the playoffs are a couple of years old & Wisconsin has not won a national title in 80 years, yes I'd consider that successful.
@@UserName-ts3spActually, I would take it a step further, not least of all because, even after thirty-one years, I still do not recognize the admission of the State Pen Inmates (so-named for the dishonorable Joe Paterno and the equally-dishonorable Jerry Sandusky) into the Big Ten. The same applies to the Maryland Twerps, (so named for Gary “Good Riddance” Williams), Rutgers, Oregon, Washington, Southern California and UCLA. The reason becomes clear when I mention the fact the the only admission in that time which I do recognize is that of Nebraska. To put it simply: The Big Ten is a Midwestern league and, the last time I checked, those other schools are not located in the Middle West.
Indeed. In fact, Woody Hayes was also a professor of war history at Ohio State, a position he kept after losing the head-coaching job one dark, dark night at Jacksonville.
I'm surprised that there wasn't a bigger crowd given that The U was in town and was a national power for the vast majority of the decade. This was ABC's primary game (Texas A&M/Washington ran elsewhere on ABC in the same timeslot for the then-Pac-10's side its cartel with the Big Ten), so rapidly failing Wisconsin was dragged in front of millions. As for Schneider, I don't know what the hell he was thinking about. He sure didn't choose his words wisely and I'm not sure how he was the least bit viable in politics for 22 years after that.
I was at this game. It was wet, and Wisconsin was terrible, but it was fun to watch Miami that day. It was also the last Badger game I went to before the prior to Barry Alvarez taking over.
I'm honestly surprised that Gorilla Monsoon, Gordon Solie, and others didn't get more shit even at the time for calling any pro wrestling sneak attack a "Pearl Harbor job." It's not like that was in universal use among wrestling announcers, either.
My personal favorite was Cowboy Bill Watts, in Mid-South, referring to Skandor Akbar throwing a fireball at Hacksaw Jim Duggan as a "terrorist attack". And not just stopping at that phrase, Watts went on to point out that Akbar was from a part of the world where car bombings and terrorism are a way of life.
I've been binging on some old WCW Saturday Night stuff (early 90's) and heard Bruno Sammartino reference the Pearl Harbor for a heel sneak attack. If it was in Bruno's verbage, I actually do believe it would be old wrestling lingo
@@southbeachtalent I think it officially died in 1993 when Yoko (that notorious Japanese sumo) did that to Jim Duggan on Superstars. Vince turned up the ridiculous to 10 and Jerry Lawler completely no-sold it. Even brought Mrs. Hacksaw on the next week, nobody GAFF.
Actually, that was one of those games I found myself hoping against hope for the impossible, to wit, that both teams would lose. Knowing that it would indeed be impossible, I chose to not listen that evening.
I was literally thinking "This was actually probably more significant considering it was much closer to when Pearl Harbor actually happened." And then you began the 9/11 comp and I knew exactly where you were going. Good comp.
It’s quite ironic that nearly three years earlier at the Fiesta Bowl, there was a moment during the steak fry where one of the Miami players asked a Penn State player if the Japanese sat down for dinner with America before bombing Pearl Harbor before walking out; and that Penn State player retorted: Didn’t the Japanese lose World War II? Suffice to say, Penn State prevailed over Miami 14-10 to win the national championship which capped a perfect season in their football program’s centennial.
To top it off, some of the Hurricanes wore fatigues in the Valley of the Sun in the week leading up to that Fiesta Bowl. Alonzo Highsmith in particular regrets that now.
This would like if after game 6 of the 1986 World Series, One Massachusetts state representative said that Boston losing that game was Boston’s Pearl harbor. That would have caused some outrage
Comparing this game to the 2017 Orange Bowl is like night and day. Wisconsin Badgers football has come a long way since 1989. Anything less than 9 wins feels like a lost season for the Badgers now.
You should do a story about Nick Saban and saying Japaneses kids are good at sneak attacks. Around 2002/2003 Saban was the quest speaker at International football event in Montreal. Saban was speaking on each country giving complements on each country and said the Japanese of course were good at sneak plays like Pearl Harbor. The team was offended and Saban had to apologized.
Another dumb/tasteless comment was the bumper sticker made prior to the Nebraska/Colorado game in 1989 which stated .... "Sal is dead, Go Big Red". Context was then Colorado QB Sal Aunese had died of inoperable stomach cancer early in the season.
I’m genuinely surprised that the legislator who made those comments not only kept his job, but continued to serve another 20+ years after that. Even in 1989, you couldn’t make comments like that and get away with it. As for the game itself, I’m surprised the attendance wasn’t better unless the weather was just that bad. Usually a highly ranked team would draw a bigger crowd for even struggling or poorly attended teams. That just shows how little Wisconsin fans believed in their team in those days I guess.
Man, the 80s Wisconsin football looked bad. I think the pre Snyder Kstate teams were worse though. Ironically enough both Barry Alvarez and Bill Sndyer are from the Hayden Fry tree.
A bit insensitive and an extremely stupid rationale but in hindsight he was deadly accurate and four years later they were in the Rose Bowl after hiring Barry Alvarez the year after. Nick Saban did something similar after the ULM loss and won the Natty two years later. Anthony Lynn did the same thing in 2020 and won their last four games.
Comparing your sports team losing in catastrophic fashion to events like Pearl Harbor, 9/11 or the Holocaust honestly sounds like a bit of banter when it's coming from a fan, but people are going to interpret that literally when you say it as a politician. The knife control comment was actually on point if you know anything about the current state of weapons laws outside the US.
In 1968 Wisconsin lost at Arizona State 55-7, a Milwaukee writer opened his article describing the game as a 'football Hiroshima'
This would be the last time an inappropriate military analogy would be made after a Miami game.
Lesson of the day: Never EVER compare a sports team's loss to a real life tragedy 🚫
It worked out for Wisconsin The next year they were coached by Barry Alvarez. He transformed Wisconsin from big ten door mat into one of the best teams outside the big two.
id say the best outside the big two, penn state’s close too but in the big ten not quite
So we're pretending zero national championships and zero playoff appearances over the next three decades plus is successful?
@@JeffCirillo well considering the playoffs are a couple of years old & Wisconsin has not won a national title in 80 years, yes I'd consider that successful.
@@UserName-ts3spActually, I would take it a step further, not least of all because, even after thirty-one years, I still do not recognize the admission of the State Pen Inmates (so-named for the dishonorable Joe Paterno and the equally-dishonorable Jerry Sandusky) into the Big Ten. The same applies to the Maryland Twerps, (so named for Gary “Good Riddance” Williams), Rutgers, Oregon, Washington, Southern California and UCLA. The reason becomes clear when I mention the fact the the only admission in that time which I do recognize is that of Nebraska. To put it simply: The Big Ten is a Midwestern league and, the last time I checked, those other schools are not located in the Middle West.
Didn't Saban say Alabamas loss to Louisiana Monroe was like 9/11
Could you cover the Miami-Notre Dame rivalry in the 1980s, including the Catholics vs. Convicts series?
Man that was like comparing a football loss to a mass shooting. That's tragic.
Some have said the game is a war and the football field is a battlefield but they never compared it to a awful tragedy.
Indeed. In fact, Woody Hayes was also a professor of war history at Ohio State, a position he kept after losing the head-coaching job one dark, dark night at Jacksonville.
Howard Cosell said it best while making the John Lennon announcement. This is just a football game.
Being a Badger fan since the early 80s, these were tough times.
Morton was the worst coach in Wisconsin history. Period. There are still alums for UW who shudder when they hear the word "Veer".
This was during the pre-Barry Alvarez era for Wisconsin
They were ranked #1 at one time pre-Barry Alvarez. They never achieved that ranking after his hiring as of 2023.
I'm surprised that there wasn't a bigger crowd given that The U was in town and was a national power for the vast majority of the decade. This was ABC's primary game (Texas A&M/Washington ran elsewhere on ABC in the same timeslot for the then-Pac-10's side its cartel with the Big Ten), so rapidly failing Wisconsin was dragged in front of millions. As for Schneider, I don't know what the hell he was thinking about. He sure didn't choose his words wisely and I'm not sure how he was the least bit viable in politics for 22 years after that.
Morton already lost the fan based and alumni the previous season.
@@josephhouk6703 That had to be the case because the Canes were usually a big draw back then.
I was at this game. It was wet, and Wisconsin was terrible, but it was fun to watch Miami that day. It was also the last Badger game I went to before the prior to Barry Alvarez taking over.
Can we also stop comparing football games to war while we’re at it?
I'm honestly surprised that Gorilla Monsoon, Gordon Solie, and others didn't get more shit even at the time for calling any pro wrestling sneak attack a "Pearl Harbor job." It's not like that was in universal use among wrestling announcers, either.
My personal favorite was Cowboy Bill Watts, in Mid-South, referring to Skandor Akbar throwing a fireball at Hacksaw Jim Duggan as a "terrorist attack". And not just stopping at that phrase, Watts went on to point out that Akbar was from a part of the world where car bombings and terrorism are a way of life.
I've been binging on some old WCW Saturday Night stuff (early 90's) and heard Bruno Sammartino reference the Pearl Harbor for a heel sneak attack. If it was in Bruno's verbage, I actually do believe it would be old wrestling lingo
@@southbeachtalent I think it officially died in 1993 when Yoko (that notorious Japanese sumo) did that to Jim Duggan on Superstars. Vince turned up the ridiculous to 10 and Jerry Lawler completely no-sold it.
Even brought Mrs. Hacksaw on the next week, nobody GAFF.
My great grandfather, who survived the Pearl Harbor attacks, died in the 70s. I can only imagine what he would’ve thought of these comments…
I completely understand this because my father (a WWII Navy veteran) must’ve turned over in his grave. He would’ve been 100 years of age in 2025.
Georgia beating TCU was not a disappointment. Some of us enjoyed it very much and watched from start to finish!
Actually, that was one of those games I found myself hoping against hope for the impossible, to wit, that both teams would lose. Knowing that it would indeed be impossible, I chose to not listen that evening.
Secret Base did a video called "The Worst College Football National Championship: 2012".
I constantly admire your ability to keep it clean.
Because I know I couldn’t go after this without dropping at least three F bombs.
I was literally thinking "This was actually probably more significant considering it was much closer to when Pearl Harbor actually happened." And then you began the 9/11 comp and I knew exactly where you were going. Good comp.
It’s quite ironic that nearly three years earlier at the Fiesta Bowl, there was a moment during the steak fry where one of the Miami players asked a Penn State player if the Japanese sat down for dinner with America before bombing Pearl Harbor before walking out; and that Penn State player retorted: Didn’t the Japanese lose World War II?
Suffice to say, Penn State prevailed over Miami 14-10 to win the national championship which capped a perfect season in their football program’s centennial.
To top it off, some of the Hurricanes wore fatigues in the Valley of the Sun in the week leading up to that Fiesta Bowl. Alonzo Highsmith in particular regrets that now.
Oh my God, STOP OVERUSING COMMAS.
I remember that. It just made me want my Nittany Lions to beat them even more.
@@PAGoTribe1963 I don't cheer for football programs coached by pedophiles.
That Miami touchdown made me think of the time Japan sunk the USS Arizona.
The days before Alvarez were dark times in Madison, not Pearl Harbor dark, still sad to see.
Barry improved the football team and all of the Badger sports teams got a boost.
I agree, He brought back a winning tradition.
This would like if after game 6 of the 1986 World Series, One Massachusetts state representative said that Boston losing that game was Boston’s Pearl harbor. That would have caused some outrage
Comparing this game to the 2017 Orange Bowl is like night and day. Wisconsin Badgers football has come a long way since 1989. Anything less than 9 wins feels like a lost season for the Badgers now.
Good old Snarlin’ Marlin Schneider. Schneider was quite the character in the Wisconsin Legislature.
Trying hard not to laugh about that 9/11 statement as I'm currently at the airport.
You should do a story about Nick Saban and saying Japaneses kids are good at sneak attacks. Around 2002/2003 Saban was the quest speaker at International football event in Montreal. Saban was speaking on each country giving complements on each country and said the Japanese of course were good at sneak plays like Pearl Harbor. The team was offended and Saban had to apologized.
Another dumb/tasteless comment was the bumper sticker made prior to the Nebraska/Colorado game in 1989 which stated .... "Sal is dead, Go Big Red". Context was then Colorado QB Sal Aunese had died of inoperable stomach cancer early in the season.
I’m genuinely surprised that the legislator who made those comments not only kept his job, but continued to serve another 20+ years after that. Even in 1989, you couldn’t make comments like that and get away with it.
As for the game itself, I’m surprised the attendance wasn’t better unless the weather was just that bad. Usually a highly ranked team would draw a bigger crowd for even struggling or poorly attended teams. That just shows how little Wisconsin fans believed in their team in those days I guess.
Man, the 80s Wisconsin football looked bad. I think the pre Snyder Kstate teams were worse though. Ironically enough both Barry Alvarez and Bill Sndyer are from the Hayden Fry tree.
We jumping around today (10/7/23)
A bit insensitive and an extremely stupid rationale but in hindsight he was deadly accurate and four years later they were in the Rose Bowl after hiring Barry Alvarez the year after. Nick Saban did something similar after the ULM loss and won the Natty two years later. Anthony Lynn did the same thing in 2020 and won their last four games.
Comparing your sports team losing in catastrophic fashion to events like Pearl Harbor, 9/11 or the Holocaust honestly sounds like a bit of banter when it's coming from a fan, but people are going to interpret that literally when you say it as a politician. The knife control comment was actually on point if you know anything about the current state of weapons laws outside the US.
Yeah there was recently a knife attack in the UK.
i loved the knife control statement honestly. it makes gun control sound stupid (which it is)
#OnWisconsin?
Jesus, the guy just meant the game was a massacre....figuratively, not literally. I think you're reading way too much into the quotation.
The u