Damn Petes hair must cost him 5 watts in drag, Watched Jonathan's entire race and wondered where Pete went after his second attack, didn't realise he just left the field behind and solo'd thought Jonathan took the win.
I was watching a video the other day and someone said something like, "The only reason to attack is to win." They didn't mention that it might take more than one. Good catch guys. (Filed under: The kind of joke a friend would tell.)
So you mentioned that some of the attacks were “not good” becuz you attacked from 3rd wheel and “rolled on” rather than “snapped”. Makes sense but inadvertently you may have lulled the field into a perspective that you “just roll on” in an attack. And when you snapped on the last attack it was a complete surprise to them. Call that unplanned attack strategy but you may wish to remember that for future races.
Final attack was great, though: if they just let you roll off the front, just keep the power down. I'd try to attack seated though and focus on making it look like you're *not* attacking. If you stand and go with a 2s gap, they'll recognize the danger sooner than if you put down 700w+ seated while looking like you're only doing threshold.
@@veronicaivy3671 Really good tip! I've seen so many people "roll" away when they are really jamming the watts but they don't look dangerous so no one reacts.
Great break down of 'Good' and 'Bad' attacks. My question: Should larger riders be concerned with applying attacks or sit in and let other riders cover? If, we (larger riders) are to be concerned is it race specific, such as remaining in point contention or if desiring to sprint against the breakaway versus the field? Thanks for sharing!!!
Any rider can (and should) apply tactics :) Especially in a crit, being a larger/heavier rider is not really a detriment. A smart racer won't cover every single move, but rather, they choose their time to strike intellegently. This is true regardless of what the scale says ;)
Regardless of size, riders should first determine if they are (or their teammates are) going to benefit from the attack. If you have a great sprint, but burn yourself up with unsuccessful attacks, then you took away your advantage. Conversely, if you have fitness and not a great sprint, you'll want to attack the race to hurt the sprinters.
One more thing to add - if you aren't sure whether or not you are a good attacker, give it a go a couple times and figure it out.. you might find it's something that you're really good at. If you're good, then work on timing and positioning for attacks.
@@TrainerRoad it's always been my experience that you need someone to go with you on a break unless you're a beast. I've have tried all season unsuccessful to form a break. Most people dont want to do the work that it takes.
@@philc9305 def depends on category, 4/5 almost never a group its always a solo monster that stays away if anyone. 1-3 guys are a lot smarter then the cat 5 who brakes into a corner going only 22mph
For an attack to be successful, you need to be rested enough to make a quick snap to break away, and then sustain a high level of effort in order to stay away. If you go too deep when trying to snap away from the group, yes you will likely tire quickly and be caught by the peloton. We have an interval type that we call "race-winners" for this exact reason. These intervals include a hard, 30-second anaerobic effort at the beginning, followed by 5-10 minutes at threshold. This is exactly what you need to do when trying to make an attack stick :)
Being properly fueled for your planned efforts is never bad idea :) If taking gels/chews is part of your nutrition strategy, then it would be a good move to take them before your planned attack.
So no team is necessary if you're a beast, got it.
"Nobody snuggles with Max Power, Marge. You strap yourself in and feel the Gs."
Damn Petes hair must cost him 5 watts in drag,
Watched Jonathan's entire race and wondered where Pete went after his second attack, didn't realise he just left the field behind and solo'd thought Jonathan took the win.
Tough to beat a guy who is strong AND smart....great race video and analysis. Thanks for sharing 👌🏽
I was watching a video the other day and someone said something like, "The only reason to attack is to win." They didn't mention that it might take more than one. Good catch guys. (Filed under: The kind of joke a friend would tell.)
So you mentioned that some of the attacks were “not good” becuz you attacked from 3rd wheel and “rolled on” rather than “snapped”. Makes sense but inadvertently you may have lulled the field into a perspective that you “just roll on” in an attack. And when you snapped on the last attack it was a complete surprise to them. Call that unplanned attack strategy but you may wish to remember that for future races.
Inspirational! Excited for my first race 😄
godamn i love that opening wind sound
Lol wtf, makes me think I should try to race! 6'3", 182 lbs, 334 FTP. All I do is go ride around my local roads and try to steal downhill KOMs, lol.
You should definitely race, I'm 6'7" 230 lbs 403 FTP and used to just look for downhill KOMs, racing is so much fun (still like the KOMs too though)
You're like me high ftp. I usually try to just get ahead an keep pulling on my own works pretty well on some of the longer circuits.
Hulk being green is just an Urban Legend. Is there a figure for Pete Morris' Anaerobic Capacity?
Attack *into* the draft of the pack, not when you catch up to them.
Final attack was great, though: if they just let you roll off the front, just keep the power down. I'd try to attack seated though and focus on making it look like you're *not* attacking. If you stand and go with a 2s gap, they'll recognize the danger sooner than if you put down 700w+ seated while looking like you're only doing threshold.
@@veronicaivy3671 Really good tip! I've seen so many people "roll" away when they are really jamming the watts but they don't look dangerous so no one reacts.
Great break down of 'Good' and 'Bad' attacks. My question: Should larger riders be concerned with applying attacks or sit in and let other riders cover? If, we (larger riders) are to be concerned is it race specific, such as remaining in point contention or if desiring to sprint against the breakaway versus the field? Thanks for sharing!!!
Any rider can (and should) apply tactics :) Especially in a crit, being a larger/heavier rider is not really a detriment. A smart racer won't cover every single move, but rather, they choose their time to strike intellegently. This is true regardless of what the scale says ;)
Regardless of size, riders should first determine if they are (or their teammates are) going to benefit from the attack. If you have a great sprint, but burn yourself up with unsuccessful attacks, then you took away your advantage. Conversely, if you have fitness and not a great sprint, you'll want to attack the race to hurt the sprinters.
TrainerRoad Thx for responding. Great Information.
Jason Grefrath Thx for that information. I'm currently solo, but this was truly a good to know!!! 😎🤙🏽
One more thing to add - if you aren't sure whether or not you are a good attacker, give it a go a couple times and figure it out.. you might find it's something that you're really good at. If you're good, then work on timing and positioning for attacks.
This looks like Chicago Ohare airport. Is this where it was?
This is actually the Reno Airport! It's riding distance from the TR office :)
Are you just practicing attacks or was your intent to actually break way?
This was definitely a practice session, but I definitely wanted to break away - who doesn't?
-Jonathan
@@TrainerRoad it's always been my experience that you need someone to go with you on a break unless you're a beast. I've have tried all season unsuccessful to form a break. Most people dont want to do the work that it takes.
@@philc9305 def depends on category, 4/5 almost never a group its always a solo monster that stays away if anyone. 1-3 guys are a lot smarter then the cat 5 who brakes into a corner going only 22mph
Hey I’m new here, could someone tell me what the name of this crit is?
This is the Aircenter Crit put on by the Reno Wheelmen. It is our local Tuesday night series :)
Also, you say to attack, but once you attack, don't you lose energy, and thus the peloton can catch you easily?
For an attack to be successful, you need to be rested enough to make a quick snap to break away, and then sustain a high level of effort in order to stay away. If you go too deep when trying to snap away from the group, yes you will likely tire quickly and be caught by the peloton.
We have an interval type that we call "race-winners" for this exact reason. These intervals include a hard, 30-second anaerobic effort at the beginning, followed by 5-10 minutes at threshold. This is exactly what you need to do when trying to make an attack stick :)
Is race Category A, a Cat 1 or Pro rider?
This is our local As race :)
Need more snap,
Question if planning to attack early should you take a gel/chew before the start?
Being properly fueled for your planned efforts is never bad idea :) If taking gels/chews is part of your nutrition strategy, then it would be a good move to take them before your planned attack.
Be sneaky about it or competition might catch on and know what you're up to!
Josh the wheel wart
pete could be slower so we can see him attack more
Crit races, I don’t like them. There isn’t a single climb in sight in that race. Thumbs down.