Solar system? Yes? No? Which one?
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- Solar system? Yes? No? Which one?
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BOMBSHELL! Just a few days after this videos was posted one of the biggest energy providers in Austria EVN has terminated older contracts with 20.000 PV customers in Austria.
www.krone.at/3384394 Instead of getting around 15 Cents per KwH now they will only get a "Float tariff" between 2-3,12 Cents per KwH!!! Newer contracts currently stay at 4.5 Cents per KwH.
Off grid solar with grid backup is always better. The utility companies cannot afford to pay those great rates with the increase of solar infrastructure.
@@PWoods-cd6tk the utitility companies charge people18 Cents to 30 Cents per KwH, but they only want to pay 2-3 Cents to people now?? Meanwhile the energy companies make millions in profit and the CEO gets 600k salary each year!!!
@@SurvivalLilly Message received and noted, thanks heaps Lily!
@@SurvivalLilly Yep. Not at all surprised. There's no free lunch. Well, it might be free or cheap for a while, but not indefinitely. Saw this coming 20 years ago when early adopters in California were jumping on the grid-tied bandwagon. The sad part is those panels aren't near as efficient now or even when they were new as the panels today. Those people paid a premium even back then.
Good girl! You made the right choice.
Hugs xoxo
Clever girl, that does her homework. And saves a lot of us a lot of time and effort, I will be watching for sure. Thank you x
Battery bank solves all the grid issues. You have your own when grid is down
Boom!
Except battery banks cost a bomb and have an even more limited lifespan
@@TheBelrick Nah, pretty inexpensive compared to the crap acid Chemistry weve had to deal with for decades. per wh is a way better value if you catch them on sale. But, If you'd rather pay $50k for a massive panel-only system that only produces during the day, be my guest.
I have twenty three in mine, four big lithium ones, I got enough
I've got around $4200 worth of batteries 🔋🔋🔋🔋, lol 😆
Never get an on-grid solar panel. Stay off-grid and out of the hands of the government
They are lying. The solar is toxic. If hail hits it your land is toxic.
To my logic and calculations, it is best to have a few panels let`s say up to 2kwp and a 10kw battery (usable capacity around 70%) so the panels are working hard and the battery covers a usage of most of appliances when sun goes down. It is pointless to build the system for winter (in my region). The point is to help yourself for 9-10 months a year.
@@viliamgajdos5917 nice.
I live of grid on my narrow boat
All my electric is 12 volts
I have 400 watts of power from my solar panels which I’ve fitted myself it’s fairly easy
It cost me around a thousand pounds
All my energy is stored into 4 large leisure batteries
During winter this system is still good enough and suit’s my lifestyle
I have free electricity
Fantastic video Lilly 👍🏼🍻
Hallelujah 🙌🏻!!!!! The daily jesus devotional has been a huge part of my transformation, God is good 🙌🏻🙌🏻. I was owing a loan of $49,000 to the bank for my son's brain surgery, Now I'm no longer in debt after I invested $11,000 and got my payout of $290,500 every month…God bless Mrs Christy Fiore ❤️
Hello!! how do you make such monthly, I’m a born Christian and sometimes I feel so down of myself 😭 because of low finance but I still believe God
Thanks to my co-worker (Carson ) who suggested Ms Christy Fiore
She's a licensed broker here in the states🇺🇸 and finance advisor.
After I raised up to 525k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my son's surgery….Glory to God, shalom.
Can I also do it??? My life is facing lots of challenges lately
Have a off grid system with a hybrid inverter
... and with battery storage as well. It doesn't matter if you reduce your bill on a monthly basis, but what would you do if there is a power outage ??? Without battery storage, you are in the dark as everybody else. This is why everyone should install their own solar panels grid independent of any state or government sponsored programs. Because they do not allow you to have storage installed for about 5 years. Not quite sure how that is in Austria where Survival Lilly is located.
@@brainbyte3970 yes I have a system with 3 banks of 48volts 4 batteries on each bank ! I am off grid
In US Texas they charge 50,000 usd for the solar and claim it will produce enough so no electric bill. You become part of the grid and are stuck with 1 electric company. Often your system won’t produce enough to be totally free. I’d have to ask my neighbors to cut down a tree. But they STILL would have sold it to me even though it wasn’t’ a good fit. They encourage you to get a loan. The only solar I’ll do is a battery system where I sell extra to an electric company.
Then the electric company will raise your KW per hour rate. Its a scam. I know I have grid tied solar. Off-grid solar is better.
@@davidsalvador8989Yep. That's happening in California right now
@@davidsalvador8989 yes i am in Denmark and are offgrid ,i have a 3000w panels a pow mr 24v 80A chargecontrol/3500w inverter and a 1500w turbine and gennerator for nowember,dec jan, running 15kwh battery,,it works very well
I live in Italy, here storage systems are not convenient, they are not repaid in a useful time, one goes to dismantle them and throw them away without having finished paying for them after 20 years, someone who lives in North Texas told me that the cost of energy it is so low that it is not worthwhile, they do not pay for themselves and are often damaged by bad weather or become dangerous because they come loose during gusts of strong winds etc. They are rarely seen on the roofs, some put them with storage to make up for the frequent blackouts but prefer automatic external generators, which give more power and autonomy to your houses which are enormous with high electricity consumption, all of which costs less and gives less uncertainty, perhaps a small DIY system is the solution to reduce costs and ensure that it is amortized in good time.Ciao
I designed and installed my own. It was a PITA and permitting has been a royal pain, but I saved a ton and have the system I wanted. I am not using a smart meter. I intend to get completely off grid eventually and I didn't want to be tied to the grid if the power goes out. That's a caveat they don't tell you - if you sell power back you are gird tied and if power goes out so does yours, even if you have solar, because of safety issues - they cannot have the lines energized if they are working on them.
If the grid fails you'll be comfortable knowing you can be prepared. Piece of mind is priceless ❤
They are grid tie inverters. So if the grid goes down she would be without power.
Actually I have power stations that I will hook up to my solar panels.
We invested in the 1800 OUPES solar generator. It's kept in a faraday cage until needed and periodically charged up.
This is one of the most informative, honest, and just plain "down-to-earth" presentations on home-based solar panels and solar energy that I ever have seen. Kudos to you. Great video! Thanks
Having the capacity to be grid-independent is a good thing. National infrastructure is strengthened when society can continue even if the centralized grid system becomes compromised.
Nobody deserves to be price-gouged, though.
Full off-grid with power storage is the best option. It’s expensive, but for a prepper it’s the only reasonable solution.
Yep 👍
Yeah, I've got twenty two batteries on my solar and wind system 😎, one side can charge the other, it's pretty good. I made a twelve volt battery charger out of an amplifier transformer and some diodes I had. I have 14,400 watt hours on my solar batteries and 14,000 on the wind generator batteries. You're exactly right about having enough batteries. It makes them last twice as long if there's enough of them. Nobody tells you that. But you notice, the picture always has eight batteries? They were thinking 🤔 those big 48 volts batteries like 100 amps apiece. They show those running a house 🏠. I've got enough batteries finally. I got the fourth lithium iron phosphate battery 🔋 about three weeks ago. They're in parallel with four 31 series deep cycle batteries for 600 amp hours @ 24 volts. My inverter is only 2000 watts, so the amp pull on each battery is nothing...it can only go to like twenty amps draw. But I never use my inverter that hard. Maybe eight total. So one amp per battery. I can go a week really easily. I can charge off the wind batteries too through the 12 volts inverter feeding the Aims Power inverter charger, it'll use the dirty power from the modified sine wave inverter to charge them. In case there's too much wind, not enough Sun 🌞, like in the winter time. My system can go a long time, maybe two weeks on the batteries. It's always enough for me. I don't have to run ⛽ generator here unless I am welding something. I use my WinCo Lil dog, it and the welder are both 2400 watts running. They work great together. I've had enough power for everything I wanted to do. People don't want to think about spending a big chunk of money on batteries. But you're right about that one. That's what it takes. The four lithium batteries cost me $2116. But they're really nice 👍😎. The 24 volts ones are getting scarce. I was lucky to get four, I guess. Well, good luck 🤞 with your plans. You have the brightest idea 💡⚡🔋🔋 about off grid power 😁👍😎⚡💡🔋💡⚡. But you're absolutely right on point. I asked an old man once how his thing worked, he had a long cart with sixteen batteries and inverter that ran his stuff. He told me, " It's all in how many good batteries you can get together, the more, the better." So, I guess I have to say, he was right. They last twenty times longer when there's a whole bunch of them. And they don't ever run down really. Life is just better when you have enough batteries. It is expensive but what isn't these days? Congrats on the most truest thing I have ever seen on the internet on a comment.
So true. This system she has now is not the way to save money and will not run fridge freezers if the grid goes down. She is right, though they system she was quoted was just a ripoff. Full off grid is the best way to go.
A good friend helped us build a system that's been kicking butt for five years now. I spent $17,000 USD but that included 18/250w panels, 24/6v batteries, inverter, charge controller, a vented propane wall heater, a hybrid (petrol/propane) 10kw back-up generator, an insulated 8ft x 12ft building to house the batteries and electronics and paying my friend 2,000 for a lot of work including an excavator digging a 205 ft trench and doing a lot of electrical work. It is a 48v system. The house is in the middle of the forest and grid electric is a mile away so after over 20 years, it was a very welcome luxury!
Very cool. It makes me always happy when I hear storys like this when ppl helping each other.
Which kind of battery did you install?
48v system is the way to go. I wouldn't even consider 24 for a home. An RV or boat, yeah. Cables, lugs, terminals, less output.
@@rtsrts2317 Getting ready to start a van build on a big Promaster and thinking about going 24v. 24 is more efficient than 12, 48 is more efficient than 24, etc.
@@rtsrts2317my 2500 Watts 12v inverter...powers portable a/c..and TV and fridge..all I need ..maybe if your stationary..u need 24v... otherwise alternator does the trick
205 ft trench for cable from panels to inverter?
Wow! That's either a big current drop or you paid big money for bigger cable....
The Solar sales guy sounds like a shyster.
A real Hymie Lipschitz.
They all are. Solar installation is a massive scam that too many give into.
They are. My sister just signed up. I tried my best to talk her out of it.
Also you have to consider the roof. If you penetrate the roof you could have a possible leak. Also, when it's time to replace the roof, you have to remove and reinstall the solar array. I've heard of installation using magnets on a metal roof which is a better idea than drilling holes. Thank you Lilly.
There are special clamps used on standing seam metal roofs so you don't penetrate the roof
Just like taxi overhead signs that use heavy duty magnets to hold the sign during 120+ driving speeds on the highway against winds.
That's what sealant is for.
Also ground mount if you have the space
I have 2 portable Jackery solar panels (200 watts total) and a small 1000 (or maybe it is 2000) generator/battery storage that goes with them just to have a back up for my small freezer. There is so much hail in this part of Texas that I would not want permanent ones on my roof. Also, many insurance companies are dropping people who have them because of the hail costs. Several solar farms in my area have been hit this year with massive hail damage causing harm to the environment with toxins leeching out of the broken panels. I pull my set up out every 3 months, discharge the battery/generator by running a window fan for several days, then recharge the system and store until needed. If I was to buy again, I would go the same way but use this other set up by another company that has a different battery which lasts longer than Jackery. I got this one during a black Friday sale.
Jackery didn't sell units with LFP cells. Kinda dumb considering that's what everyone else uses. I think they've just recently switched from li-ion and nmc cells. Cheaper, but not near the life cycles.
@@rtsrts2317 I went with what I could afford at the time with the knowledge that I would only get a few years of use out of it. My daughter was very happy to have it last night as Houston has been hit with a major storm on the level of a cat 1 in terms of winds. She was able to plug in her refrigerator last night at 9 pm and by 6 this morning, she still had 44 percent remaining on the 1000 W battery. She has a on demand hot water heater that runs on gas, but they all have electric switches. She can get hot water by using this back up battery. Hotels are at a premium, and by staying home and using this one product judicially, selectively we will make our money back in cost savings. I would not have purchased except for the black Friday deal, included 2 solar panels that also have USB ports for charging other stuff at the same time as the generator, it being able to take a surge of 1200watts, and being lightweight enough that I could maneuver it where needed. In addition to the black Friday deal, I got either 100 or 200 off for taking out an Amazon credit card which I immediately paid off the next day. The cost matched my bank account and gave me peace of mind for being able to deal with another winter freeze like I had in Feb 2021 with no power for a week. Should the grid go down, I can wash clothes, I have a gas dryer but I need this for the electric portion, run my freezer and still keep up with the news and have internet. I will have to alternate between devices, but I will not be thrown totally back to the dark ages again. IF I had the money, I would've bought something else for sure.
I wonder if installing them vertically would reduce/prevent hail damage.
@@lesliehunter1823 I don't know. I am just passing on anything permanent.
Hello Lilly, thank you for sharing...
Solar Power from the USA.
EG4 provides two types of allinones. grid and off grid:
Grid the EG4 18k can send power back to the grid and you can you grid power when you need it.
Off Grid does not send power back to the grid but it can use the grid when you need it. EG4 6000xp.
Your grid for a 200a panel provides 48000W.
To send power back to the grid:
First the power company has to allow you (some do not) (It must be installed by a certified electrician using certified equipment).
The off grid EG4 6000xp provides 6000w of power in the form of 2 120v 3000w sides. The sides do not share watts.
This unit does not need batteries but works great with 48v batteries.
This unit also includes 8000w PV input.
We don't have the same electricity you do.
Your terminality may be different ours.
Good luck on your off grid build.
Another thing to consider here in the USA. Property insurance premiums can increase with solar panels on your roof. Due to weight, wind hazards, etc. Friend of mine just about doubled his insurance payments because of solar.
And new insurance requirements are no renewals if roof is 10yrs older or older so new roof every 10 years - homeowners insurance.
I ground mounted mine, easier to clean.
As someone who lives in an RV and spends a lot of time off grid, I love the setup I installed. Going on 4 years of use now and it still runs flawlessly. Admittedly, I spend most of my time in the desert (Arizona) and we have blue sky days almost year round. The Sun gives me enough power to run my Air Conditioning in the RV without issues. I can see how installs aren't beneficial to everyone, but mine has been a life changer. Mine cost $6100 in 2020 and it's been worth every penny to me.
I wish you well with your Island Install on the wall of your shed. It'll come in handy if there's an extended blackout. Speaking of blackouts, did you folks get to see the Northern Lights with the last Solar Storm we had a few days ago? I hope you did. Another complex sunspot cluster is moving on to the Earth facing side of the Sun right now so we might get more Solar Flares and CMEs.
off grid is the way to go. like all things don't believe any of what you hear and half of what you see. solar panels out put half to two thirds of rated output. if you want 400 watts then 3 x 200watt panels will definitely do it for you. also 24v is becoming new standard.
We're on unrestricted property.
The solar setup is 600w on a good day. It does everything we ask of it.
For major tool use we have the generator.
Been off grid for nine years.
Oh, hi Lilly!
Fit it yourself and get an electrical engineer check it out ! I fitted mine myself and it has paid for itself in 2.5 years and energy will keep going up
You should have a dc disconnection switch from the solar panel before it goes into the inverter
@@garrydunkley1000 yes mine paid for itself in a few years. Best thing I ever did - energy in Europe went crazy
@@garrydunkley1000 ideally, there should be properly rated circuit breakers at each end of any positive DC line to protect wiring or cable and to protect from potential, fire.
@@rtsrts2317 yes I agree but as the minimum you need a disconnect on the dc lines
Wise choice, so many crooks in solar business, it's good to have a friend that understands the need. I don't recommend grid tie.
They showed your Naked and Afraid episode again on the Discovery Channel other day. Great show!
Was she off grid for that too
Sounds good Lilly! I have a very small emergency backup solar system with a battery so I can run the furnace in winter or freezer/fridge in summer. It would get us through a 12 hour outage with no sun. Here in the U.S. the utility companies have small crews so the outages after storms are lasting longer.
It’s a simple diy . You definitely can Lilly
Here in Australia if there are too many houses with solar, it pushes up the voltage in the area; which will then cause the solar system to shut itself down, to prevent damage from high voltage. This voltage can be adjust at the local transformers, by the city council, who will most likely need to be pushed into action.
Invest in a battery system Lilly, Then You can go off grid with switch on Your electric box.
And go lithium batteries not flooded or AGM. I know it's initially more expensive but cheaper in the end because of them being maintenance-free and their lifespan.
I’ve had solar panels since 2012. The time to repay the investment was important. I calculated it would take 8-9 years and this is exactly how it worked out. Fortunately here in the UK the Government provided a tariff for solar generation that was 3-4 x the unit cost price for consumption. This has worked well for me as the returns from the solar energy pays for my annual gas and electricity consumption.
Keep in mind that you check and charge the battery bank periodically. I've lost several batteries by not doing that....
That's what's great about lithium batteries. No more battery maintenance is required.
My favorite Solar System is the one that includes Pluto.
We put solar on our house and our bill is cheep now! It is definitely worth the money! Our bill was 600.00 a month and the rates just keep going up so you’re going to pay it back a lot sooner!
Looking forward to your videos of you building your new solar system. Sounds like a great idea. Also sounds like a challenge. I’m confident that you are more than capable of the task. Best of luck Lilly.
You made the correct choice. Glad you checked around for information. Thank you for sharing. Everyone stay safe, warm, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
Thank You Lilly for bringing these solar energy issues to light! Äm in the States & have been bombarded with adds & offers that turn out to be unaffordable and not practical for my area. I also believe in the smaller options. Thanks again for breaking this down- hope people pay attention! ☮️
I have 600 watts of solar panels tied to my Xantrex charge controller mounted on top of my 8’x16’ cargo trailer and connected to 2 100 ah Dakota LiPo batteries. They run all my fridge, lights, exterior lights, CPAP and my vacuum cleaner with no issues from a 2000 watt pure sine inverter. I can camp for months if I want. I have a 20kw standby generator that operates from propane as whole house back up power. But I can run 4 refrigerator freezers (house and trailer) from my cargo trailer solar system power.
Why you need 4 fridge freezers?😆
@@Gazr965 I am a hunter and gardener and they are all full of meat, bread, veggies, etc. a years worth.
@@raytribble8075 Okay, just wondered.
Just a shout out to Will Prowse of DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse my favorite solar TH-cam creator. His plans and advice were used by Lilly to make her 2 diy solar generators.
Here in New York State, they had grant programs and a regional group organized a group purchase price. Yes, the electric company is getting energy for cheap compared to what they sell it. We got a good deal, otherwise we could afford it. The US
government has always supported the coal and oil industries.
O Lily...Your good to us, for sharing your concerns and the solar project. Thank You!
I never regretted my subscription to this channel. Keep up the good work!
Great video Lilly!
thank you Lily, you are raising awareness :)
Hi lilly, just wanted to say that I miss your archery vids. I've not long bought a 62'' take down recurve with a 50lb draw weight. After I'd watched a few of your older videos I decide to follow your decision on making mine a somewhat of a hybrid as you did. 3 pin sight and peep sight. I'm really happy with the results and just wanted to thank you as it was by watching your channel that I learned how to set up my bow. Anyway, I'd love to see you doing some more vids on archery. 🙂👍
Thanks Lilly. Great video.
Great information Lilly much appreciated
You might want to look into the modular home storage systems on and coming to the market. They have an automatic transfer switch which isolates your home from the grid so it is always connected and can charge off your excess solar production. With these, you can buy a basic system and add capacity as needed later, especially as batter prices fall.
Grid tie PV is a no-go, better to install as an island power system and segregate loads that your system can handle, like refrigerators or freezer or lights, or with larger systems a mini-split HVAC system…
Hello Lili, I greet you from Colombia, my name is Guillermo Muñoz and I am watching you on the Discovery channel program, you do it very well, congratulations.
Hi Lilly, I built three systems after your video where you showed how you did it...Thank you for your great job!!!
We installed a 7.1 kWh system 18 months ago including a Tesla battery. Last quarter our bill was $25 whereas a typical summer quarter was $500 or more. Reliability of supply was an issue and there have been power outages that we haven’t been aware of, and now we hardly ever dip into the grid and are mostly self sufficient, though feeding back many kilowatts of power to the grid which helps the environment overall. Plenty of sunlight hours here in Australia!
Thank you Lily, very informative video.
I'm glad you learned and saw the truth about solar. If you have a system installed professionally, 60% or more of the cost is the installation. Then the company will "pad" the price of all the equipment to cover their responsibility to "warranty" the items and provide you replacements or compensation in the future if something fails. Solar panels are cheap now, and good quality inverters and other components are also quite cheap compared to years ago. I worked a short time for a solar installation company but left them because I couldn't stand all the scamming going on. They were selling systems which had no capacity to perform as they stated, nor be modified or updated to perform as they stated. I self-installed a 4000 watt grid tie-with battery backup system at my home for about $8,000 in equipment cost about 8 years ago. It's been erasing about $75 to $125 of my electric bill (depending on season) for the past 8 years with no equipment replacement cost or manitainance cost. It's already paid for itself, and now for the next 30+ years I'll get free power from it. By the way, don' worry about solar panels "getting old". Any reputable brand is guaranteed to have at least 80% of their original output after 25 years. They degrade less than 1% per year. If they don't get damaged by lightning or hail, just leave them up and let them generate free electricity for you. Here in the states it is a bit easier for a "do-it-yourselfer" to self install a system, depending on if you live in one of our communist states (Democratic run) or not. My advice, don't get too deep into the "expensive new tech" of solar, with all the lithium batteries and bells-and-whistles components with data logging and stuff. A great little system can be put together cheap with cheaper, old-model solar panels, a rugged transformer type inverter, PWM charge controllers and some golf cart batteries or marine batteries from Walmart. If you've got money to play with then you can add some higher end components. Always buy inverters/charge controllers "upsized" so you can add more panels later. You can also always "add more batteries" to a system to make your off grid backup capabilities better. Anyone not afraid to try to install a "car battery" could learn to put in a solar power system by just watching a few TH-cam videos (like Lilly's). By they way, that government program you have there where you can just "plug in" 600-800 watts of grid tie solar into your house wiring without a lot of hassle is really smart, a very good move by your government. We have no such law here. Essentially someone told your government people that the average household circuit easily handles 3000 watts (I presume your individual room circuits are 220 volt there), so back feeding 600-800 watts is pretty safe and chance of an overload fire is very low. (if you were running 3800 watts of load on a circuit by your solar panels were making 800 watts of it "after the circuit breaker" you wires could be overloaded and could heat up, that's they only way things could get crazy. There are lots of people putting up small systems in the US "under the radar", but to stop worrying about "getting nabbed" and getting a fine or an order to remove the system, you have to register with the power company and in most places have an inspection of your equipment. I got mine registered and it's all legal, and I live in a very cooperated state.
Excellent information Lilly :)
We have commercially installed roof solar. It cost $33K, minus $11K federal incentives, grand total $22K. It was my wife's idea; she wanted it. I wanted a small DIY solar panel or two, to power my home office which would have been vastly cheaper. So she had to take out a loan and pay for it herself. In two years we have paid $16 total electric bills. It has the cut-off as Lilly describes, so when the grid goes down, we have no power, just like everyone else. The only workaround is to get a battery such as a Tesla Powerwall and then we can finally be off-grid, at least for 2-3 days. This is my next goal, because in my town we have power outages about every 60 days, very annoying.
You have that frequency of power outages and don't own a generator? 🤦♀️ We live in Nova Scotia, and even before we went off-grid power outages were so frequent and so prolonged (a week or more in rural areas is not unheard of) that we bought a big one, and everyone in our province NOT living in an apartment or condo owns one! (The power company here is junk.)
@@AgnesMariaL We don't have prolonged outages. Just an hour here and there. And yes I'm seriously considering getting a diesel generator.
I think you should be paying your wife half of your pre-solar power bill each month and $8 of the $16 electric bills. 😂
@@kevinmiller5467 I paid about half the costs and got it back on my federal taxes, so I've done my part :)
The $16 was the grand total over 2 years, not a monthly bill.
@@ChickensAndGardening diesel generators are very expensive! Mind you, you may be able to run it on veggie oil. They do make dual-fuel ones as well, that will run on either gasoline or propane/natural gas.
SMART MOVE
These green systems are usually out of touch for the average household! They also like to guilt shame you into your purchase! It’s a sham!
love your content!
For people not offgrid, “solar shed”/workshop probably makes more sense and can be used as the backup generator for the house if you set things up correctly. Depending on you local regulations, islanding might make more sense than directly linking to house grid.
Additionally, in some areas using a battery/inverter system to do “peak shaving” of house power might work out without having to hook up to panels or turbines and also covers short outages as well.
Yes! I would love to see your solar system work around. ❤
EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra is nice thing
Looking forward to seeing your future build 🤠
Here in Florida. We purchased 4 to 8 panels at a time. 100 Watts each @ $98 each when on sale.
We have 4.3 kilowatts of panels and three battery banks. A 2k bank, a 4k bank and 8k bank. We have 8 inverters. One 3k, three 2k and four 400 watt inverters. All pure sine wave inverters.
We also purchased a 10,000 watt inverter dual fuel generator, a 3,500 watt dual fuel generator, a 2,000 watt inverter gasoline generator.
We spent about $9,000 so far and are fixing to order two new 60 amp mppt charge controllers. We started with cheap pwm charge controllers.
DIY Solar System with multiple battery banks and multiple generators was a good way to go for us. Two of our generator run on either gasoline or propane gas.
Great Video👍
Suggestion: Place an Automatic Transfer/Isolation Switch between the Public Service Mains of your power supplier and your Domestic power systems. Then structure your primary Solar System to supply your home with power, add a generator to assist your solar power systems with recharging the household battery bank and supplying the household in power outages. Then during normal daily activities you can send power to the Mains, but in an emergency all of your power will be isolated from the system, thereby not wasting any, and maintaining safety for any power-line workers.
I don't care about green as much as I care about saving money.
great video .. i run a bluetti ac200p with sp350 and pv350 panels ... 700 watts total . thank you for your insight and recommendations , now and years past . looking forward to your series on the island solar system
I love your channel Lilly! Why would you not install a battery bank? I am not sure what additional electronics you would need. To me it's kind of like being on a plane and the oxygen mask are deployed, you put yours on first so you can then help others. Keep up the great job!
G'day Lilly, We set up an off grid system for our cottage on the farm, 1KW of solar collection 400 watt wind turbine 4 x 120 AH quality LiPo batteries we chose 24 volts because the step up is less from that to 240 AC than from 12Volts.A 2KW Inverter through an ATS to a 6KVA Diesel generator the ATS thinks the inverter is the grid and the generator is whatever, there's a 35amp battery charger connected to the batteries so they're being charged whilst the generator is running in the case of a lack of sun and wind, all in a separate shed to the dwelling 👍.
I stuffed a couple of panels on my shed roof, and have them charge two lead acid leisure batteries using a super cheap and nasty charge controller that cost under 10 Euro. I got a small 1000 watt pure sine wave inverter to power small appliances. Its nice to know that if power goes out for extended periods of time I can run an extension cable into the kitchen and power the fridge and freezer. I use it to charge my E-Bike and power tool batteries, run a diesel heater, lights, car stereo, and maintain my motorbike battery over winter. Super handy and a fun project if you are into that kind of thing.
Thank you , Lilly, for your excellent presentation. I learned a lot.
Survival Linley, back in the 1970’s I was working for the Federal Government. During this time of the oil embargo to the USA. In order to save money ( imagine the government saving money ) the conducted a study on saving energy and the payback had to be within 7 years or it was not worth any changes . Example , change light bulbs or lamps from incandescent to fluorescent lights, timers on electric water heaters, temperature restrictions on heat or air conditioning . You have served yourself well. My biggest concerns are the disposal of the panels or wind turbine blades. Our environmentalist don’t look at the end result of the costs . It takes more energy to produce a EV car than the car can possible save in its life time and once again you have disposal costs. 👍🇺🇸😎🙏🏽✌🏻
Thank you Lilly for your honesty opinion much appreciated
13 cents per KWH in SW Va USA
Glad you were honest about off grid. Most who make YT videos and make claims of being off grid lie about it. No matter how big your system is you will need to use a generator or other sources of energy such as wood or propane.
Buy your own panels and get an Anker or eco flow delta pro. Start by getting your refrigerator and freezer on solar. That way your food will be safe. And then start to eliminate different appliances by adding more units and more panels. I think Jackery and Bluetti makes one, there's a lot of them out there.
Add something reflective, eg. aluminium sheeting, around solar panels to increase light ingress. It helps, especially on cloudy days.
I am planning on a Jean Pain compost system. I will also get a vertical axis wind mill and a solar panel or two.
I have a 2kw on grid solar system which almost covers my mains bill. But I also have a 4kw off grid system that goes into 30off 100ah Lifepo4 batteries. I'm now using the off grid system and the mains power is my back up 😅
Large scale solar worries me for the investment, thank you for making this video Lilly.
I have a relative who had panels installed on their roof. When they were put on, the end of the panels were over their rain gutters, and during a heavy rain, the water bypassed the gutters, and destroyed the foundation of their house.
Lovely Lilly🌷
You are a clever girl! We live in Tenerife and I installed a system myself. One 370W and one 200 W panel. Cost with inverter 370 Euro.
I don’t want to give away electricity so the 200 W are automatically disconnected in the middle of the day. Cost saving is 23% and the system is payed within 2,5 years. You made a good choice! I adjust the angle on the 370 W panel once a month. 😊
I use 4 panels (total 720watts) and a ecoflow off the grid completely and also a honda 1kw pure sine inverter petrol generator. plus gas cooking and wood heater.
Electricity is used the second it is created.....and when there isn't any it's pitchblack. Right.
Great idea to reroute to a battery continuing the use of the solarpanel....hmm, that should work about anytime ;]
Always smart and on point. ty
In the United States, some states, like Florida, home owner insurance costs can triple when you install solar.
That is so great. I'll be watching to learn how you do it .. I've been wondering what to do in case of an EMP OR SOLAR SUN FLAIR... I'LL BE MAKING ONE WITH YOU ..
Great - informative video. Danke
Your 100% correct , I was quoted €24,000 about 7 years ago for solar , and then they were telling me oh ! You cannot use everything at the same time ! You have to think all the time what is on , so I couldn’t weld while the washing machine was on etc etc as a guide ! My wife wasn’t having it so I’m glad we stayed on the grid , and it works perfectly.
If you have a generator supplement or backup to assist the solar/wind you could build a wood gasifier system to run the generator for even more savings
Set charge parameters saving to batteries via, smart inverter when sufficiently efficient to do so for evening and future dark weather day usage. In USA there's a lot of good hardware to choose or just learn about when designing a system.
Lilly, you can mount your panel at an angle - just put an angled piece of sheet metal or even painted plywood at an angle against the raised side to block and channel the wind - make sense? Very simple solution.
they have Government subsidies here in Australia, I got a big system it was about $8000 but we also have plenty of sun shine here.
Yes I have a couple of smaller solar boxes and a bigger Gas generator... I have just ordered two Duel Fuel generators that will be enough power if I need it...
I'm a builder and you also void roof warranty when you puncture your roof with hardware and when your roof has to be re-roofed you have to pay to uninstall and reinstall the panel system.
Solar has its place. It is really good at making low voltage DC ( vehicle sized system ) not so good at high voltage AC ( household sized system ). My barn, storage building, and boat house were too far away from the main house to make it cost effective to run wire. They are now all 12v ( solar and deep cycle batteries). My main house and workshop are connected to the grid with a battery backup that only charges during off peak hours.
Some of the intermediate range inverter/chargers know how to trick the microinverter to keep working when grid power fails. Obviously you have to talk it over with your electrician but it is possible to use one of those charger/inverter units to add batteries to your setup for grid outages.
Or, you could just unplug the panel(s) from the microinverter and plug them into a portable power station of your choice.😊
Thanks for the great info. I took your advice on the e-bike Engle E 26. Great bike for the price.
Having a storage system -- Tesla powerwall or a set of batteries -- is the way to store excess electricity to be available when weather is bad. Even winter has many sunny days -- charge your batteries then, and use the power when the panels aren't producing as much.
In many places in the U.S. the town or city requires your house to be connected to the grid, like apparently your area does. But many other places don't have any requirements -- you get to choose how you want to use solar power, independently or attached to the grid, and also whether you want to sell excess power or just store it.
Excellent presentation! The cost is very high! But you’re actually buying a power plant. 30 years to payoff is very high! They say 7-8 years here in the states.
They are testing shooting stuff into the stratosphere to block/reflect the sun.