This 1 Advanced Ana Tip is a GAME-CHANGER!
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- This Diamond Ana player can't win in a lobby of GOLDS! This simple tip would have solved the match that they were in.
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I think the whole "Use your gun more and cooldowns less" also helps improve mechanics. I feel like I used cooldowns willynilly a lot when I was worse because I wasn't confident with my aim (specifically with DPS). But I think now that I've gotten better I feel like I CAN rely on my raw weapon more than being forced to use an ability because I'm not sure if I'll hit the shot
I disagree, actually. By using your cooldowns more, you are getting more practice for those cooldowns and improving those mechanics. If you hold on your sleep every time and only use it every other fight, you'll have so little practice using it that you're way more likely to miss and you'll improve much more slowly. There is a reason the #1 NA support says the exact opposite of what Freedo is saying.
@@wubzt3r There is a reason you are not the #1 NA support, and there's a reason he only plays comp and not OWL. For example, sleep dart is literally aimed with the same cursor that aims your primary fire, by improving your aim with primary fire you objectively get better at aiming your sleep dart. Probably a lot quicker than spamming it off cooldown every 15 seconds, since it doesnt actually matter if the sleep dart connects or if its your regular unscoped projectile bullet, you are aiming your cursor over their character model, so the primary fire lets you practice 15x shots before your sleep dart even comes back off cooldown (which you probably wasted, because you arent the #1 NA support player). the only difference is pressing left click vs whatever button you have sleep dart bound too. But its not surprising you dont know wtf youre talking about since youre not the rank 1 support player after all. Maybe watch some more youtube videos so you have more things smarter people than you said to regurgitate because thinking for yourself doesnt seem to be very effective for you
@@wubzt3r at 4:58 the Ana used the sleep dart, her sole "escape" move on a flanking Roadhog. This does absolutely nothing (not to mention he even miss) because it was in the middle of a fight, one stray bullet and Roadhog would wake right back up.
If he had kept his dart, Ana would have been able to deny a whole ultimate from hog, as opposed to dying with 2s CD left. Ana could have also stay on the high ground and dps on hog considering how big he is.
The support mindset should be to adapt to every match and round. Sometimes you aren’t being pressured and can play more offensive and freely and focus on enabling your dps to make plays. Maybe there’s an incoming nano blade that you need to save cooldowns for. Literally look at the teams EVERY match and play accordingly. Look at who’s popping off and is an actual threat that you need to shut down. Support is always adapting to the situation and playing differently based on what you are up against. Maybe you aren’t even being pressured and you can just spam anti nades, or maybe you are being dove more often and need to save them to keep yourself alive.
7:25 This is so true, I can play many characters in GM now (across all roles not just support), and the single most important thing for _all_ of them is to understand where to be, and when to make a play. I don't even have great mechanical skill anymore, so clearly good movement and timing can get you a long ways.
Any tips to get better in PVE missions? Oh wait...
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I'm dead 😂
Apex legends is a much better game.
yeah just play a different game and get over it.
@@imightmakefunofyou4433 gaypex is not a good game 🤡
I'd love to see what you think of Awkward's coaching strategy.
That's seriously what I was thinking. This is entirely opposite of the way Awkward plays. And making the comparison to OWL players is ridiculous. They don't use them as often because they don't need to. Stacks play so differently from solo ladder.
Tbf, Awkward also realizes that it is not optimal to use those abilities off CD, especially in high rank play. He tells players that for 2 reasons.
1. Low rank players won't be "saving it" for anything of particular value anyways. They don't have the gamesense for that. So simply spamming it off CD will probably help them rank up bc randomly it will work.
2. For middle tier players, you will often get punished for poor ability usage. However, the only way you learn is by experiencing what happens when you use it in different situations. Spamming it a lot will teach you as fast as possible when its valuable and when its going to get punished.
But everyone knows that Ana's abilities are some of the most closely tracked in high tiers. It is a big signal to dive her when she's vulnerable, and high tier Ana's definitely do not go around just spamming her abilities at everything in sight. Using them off CD is a learning strategy, not the optimal way to play her.
@@Kamorzy well said. I think people tend to over generalize what they hear. Freedo specially said he’s surprised people can rank up this high spamming CDs. Since most people are gold, those players could likely benefit from pushing to use their abilities more often. (Mostly commenting to support the channel 😊)
@@Kamorzy an issue I see at low ranks is people use cooldowns before fights have even started. Ana chucking a nade, Orisa using gold, stuff like that. They're just low value plays. Don't save them for forever but find a good spot.
I watched the SVB vid and IIRC awkward was advising to not save Ana CDs for counter attacks *until you are punished*. Meaning you push every game to the edge by being as aggressive as you can get away with.
Speaking as an Ana main (masters), Jetpackjo was doing gods work on that map. Nading the full HP Hog was 100% correct move as it was a 5v1 the Hog should be dead if it wasn't trash elo. In gold games you can just do your best (and thats not by playing it "safe"). GG next, it happens, that doesn't mean you should default back to "Ana moar heals lol" gold mentality.
This is just really good advice for any hero really. As a Tank player trying to finally get from Masters to GM, I've found the 'less is more' idea to be incredibly valuable. Not using abilities for the sake of using abilities, but using them with value in mind.
No, it's not. You never want to waste your abilities, but some should just be used as much as possible so that you can use them again faster.
In other words, two decent nades in a fight is better than holding the nade for the perfect moment (that may never come).
Sleep dart is the exception. Using sleep tells the enemy tank that you are now killable, and a mediocre sleep dart is so much worse than a good one.
Put simply: nade is generally powerful while sleep is situational. So more nades is always good but more sleeps is not really that great.
I would be very interested to hear what Awkard thought about this advice as he generally seems to say to not hold onto cooldowns. But yeah, it must be better to anti someone who has already taken damage as opposed to being full
Our diamond Ana is barely aiming their CD’s, he’d probably start there.
For what I saw he always says to try and use nade offensively and to not rush it but also he talks about using sleep darts a lot until you start to get a better feeling for it (?), what i took from that is that is mostly to newer players or players that hold their sleep dart too much for a special occasion
Sub-par advice tbh; holding cooldowns for the most optimal moment is a terrible idea if that moment just never eventuates.
It's better to use your resources when you need them otherwise are you even really playing the game?
The real issue with that Ana's gameplay was their positioning; they were almost always in a sub-optimal spot in the fight.
as a ball and monkey main anas are my favorite dinner. All I need is to hear the sleep dart sound thrown at 50 meters to know is balling/monkeying time
I don't know, I think this is dangerous advice. It's important to know when you should use your abilities to get value and when to save them for yourself. Especially on Ana. Telling people that they should hold nade or sleep for 30 seconds for the perfect moment may lead to worse Ana players imho.
I definitely think it definitely depends on the players current habits and maybe rank. For example, some players at low levels literally ignore using abilities. I think Freedo’s example of Ana / Hog is useful. Saving sleep for hog vape is extremely high value and has a regular cadence.
I don’t get why they’re trying to tell people there’s one way to manage cooldowns, like, no that’s not what you are supposed to do. Every match is different, every round has a different pacing. There are always targets to prioritize and bigger threats to save cooldowns for. It’s just learning every match and being able to adapt. Maybe they literally don’t have anything you need to save cooldowns for and you are free to use them offensively, which is the best case scenario. If no one is forcing your cooldowns then you can be offensive and be a playmaker and enable your dps and tank heavily. But there are matches where you need to play safer, slow down your thinking, and look at what actually NEEDS to be shut down on the enemy team.
@@jontaii152if no one is going after you, you still need to time your abilities for when you team can go at the team, i see so many anas throw antis at full hp tanks and that is just throwing in every match up, there is no excuse to use ana cooldowns as candys
@@diegocorvalan5435 well yeah there’s no reason for that lol
@@diegocorvalan5435 Throwing anti's at full tanks especially is not the play. You either want to anti nade when your team is fully engaged or try to anti nade before the fight onto the backline. The pressure will cause them to back away giving your team an easier time killing the tank.
Thanks Freedo that was great and appreciate JetpackJo taking one for the team and being a good representation of how a lot of us play Ana.
Freedo plays weird sometimes...randomly juking behind cover taking long to get from sight line to sight line and then his Moira dies in the process. Smh
@@DyingBreed8 True, you always have to take these 'tips' with a grain of salt. Even the best players don't always know exactly what can help the general Overwatch population.
As with pretty much anything TH-cam there are almost no consequences to being wrong. You might get flamed a bit but at the end of the day no one is testing this shit. No one is coming back to this video saying "I didn't climb two ranks, Freedo is full of shit".
Great tips. It's crazy how we are desensitized by the "diamond in gold lobby" part which is really a MM issue. Like we just accept that that's fine at this point.
to all ana main below gold i wanna say this is very important "TURN ON ULT CONFIRM" i swear i kept seeing a buffed mercy and majority of the mercy wont go battle mercy, i personally turn it on and admit its slow, but you can set it up and you can use it within 5-6 secs even through walls and who knows, maybe the targeted dps/tank got enemy ana naded , junker queen ulted or even dva eject or use ult
I think it's kind of funny how you're talking about holding abilities to play for value - whilist when i was watching SVB getting coached on Ana, the #1 tip he was given was "be aggressive, go throw your abilities at the enemy".
I don't mean to criticize, it's just an interesting dichotomy
Firstly thank you Freedo for your video. Maybe he finds my comment and pins it.❤
Secondly I'll try to answer some questions I've seen in the comments. Yes I've been in diamond since ow1 and wouldn't consider myself boosted by the current ranked situation. Sadly the game was on an old patch and I didn't record it myself, so you'll have to make judge my gameplay by the parts shown in the video. Though I do still have a picture of the scoreboard.
Thirdly id like to discuss the feedback and tipps Freedo gives in this vide and how they differ to akwards as I have watched some of his recently (the vod in which he coached svb).
Quick disclaimer, i will mention some of the stats of the game, not to boost my ego or something similar but to further the context of this game/my frustration with it.
I personally prefer the advice/playstyle from akward which seems to contradict Freedos but that no reason to flame him or discard them. Akward advice is to use your cooldowns more often, especially before the fight begins to get an eraly advantage or even picks. He does not recommend just throwing them out immediately and wasting them though as he says we shouldn't rush them and take that half a second or second longer to set them up properly. I assume that Freedos advice is comparable to that part and not meant as you should sit on your cooldown forever. In this game (and probably in my orhers as well) i do rush my cooldowns from time to time as soon as I see an opportunity and don't get optimal results. That is something I have to work on. That does not mean those nades I used were horrible as you can see even those rushed nades did get 1-2 or more people antied and put pressure on the enemy. In this game in particular i would even argue that Freedos advice would not have changed much as I was working with a ticking time bomb (my dps died 18 and 21 times respectively) and having some pressure on the enemy while your team is still alive is better than the perfect nade when you are down one or two people. You could ask why did they die so often? I'd say it was not a healing problem as me and my other support had comparable healing to the enemy's with upwards of 14k. Did I not pressure the enemy team enough with my primary fire as Freedo reccommends? I'd also say no as I outdamaged 3/4 dps and all other supports (including a damage moira) in the lobby with about 12k damage while having the 3rd lowest deaths in the lobby. I'd argue i did the right call but who cares in the end you can't win every game. And that's fine but it can be frustrating when you feel like it's because of mm. It isn't always as bad as we feel like but should continue to call out blizzard to better.
I think it would be interesting to see a talk/vod review with akward and Freedo together to clear up some misconceptions and see the differences and similarities in their approach and show the community that there is no need to spread hate towards creators just because they disagree. I hope i could be helpful and didn't come across to defensive of my play. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask.
Cheers
Continuing on that keeping the cooldowns for the perfect moment, as akward said, you don't know it if you don't dare to waste your cooldowns and see what works and what doesn't. You have the potential to learn faster if you use your cooldowns more often.
at 4:30 when you complain about the early nade, the Hog DOES use Breather while anti-naded, so the Ana was getting the full value out of that nade. Should have chosen a different clip for that.
I think you’re forgetting about the damage reductions hogs breather provides. Overall, more damage could have been done if he waited.
@@damienperry5828 might be, but thats not the point. the point was simply that the clip didnt fit to what was being said.
It did though. He said the hog should be dead in those circumstances if nade was used correctly. Sounds like he misspoke slightly but no need to be pedantic. He still gets his point across.
@@damienperry5828 it absolutely did not. At the point im referencing he very clearly says that the player should have waited to use the nade to catch the hog while he is using breather. in the clip shown together with that statement the player DOES catch the hog using breather. Thus the clip does not show the wrong behaviour he is explaining about, thus my comment that he should have used a different clip to illustrate.
His main point was to wait so the hog will die. Yes he misspoke (which is likely an oversight on his part) but it’s a little odd to hyper focus on this detail when we all understand his point. Instead of focusing on the educational portion you are focusing on knit picking his minor commenting errors.
This was significantly much more focused on construction than in other videos. It was much more pleasant to watch this time around thank you 🙏 you’re the best!
So true, I have many friends who play Ana and throw her sleep dart and nade off-cooldown all match long.
They aren't even realizing the missed value of nading a tank who desperately needs heals because they've yeeted their nade into the enemy backline 5s ago...
Idk why this video in my feed looked like a joke.
i am a low masters ana main and i cant get the hang of this.... hopefully this video will help me train myself in that way of thinking
Idk if that was their issue tbh.. I'd like to see their whole vod
You complained about throwing cooldowns randomly but you did the same thing. At 5:38 was that the optimal time to throw anti-nade? At 5:48 you threw a nade when the enemy Hog had a lot of health left and slept the hog when he was being hooked. You say it was to help close the fight but when the other guy does it at 3:34, it's wrong?
Awkward wants you to play like this guy
If Awkward calls Fredo an NPC I would die 😂
Exactly! This diamond ana watch awkward a lot, dumping your nade when their HP is full and before fight it means you dead in high elo. Use abilities in right situation, hog against ana is walking zombie
Awkward is a great player so I say this with no disrespect but his videos have created a huge wave of absolutely dog water support players who completely miss the point of his lessons
Can't wait for the PvE guides! Oh...
4:29 that was a good name, he DID use breather and lost it. The damage wasn't enough though
Great video as always! Landing cooldowns at the right time is def top tier advice! Too many people just yeet their cooldowns and then get no value with them. Yes you hit the nade but was there any follow up or value with the nade? Top tier advice. Masters 1 support player working on timing my cooldowns properly so that they can get maximum value.
Awkward: no no you need to do Damage. damage damage damage!
As a high masters/low GM support who constantly is conscripted into playing Ana this is the thing I mentally kick myself most for. I’m used to brig and zen with low cds and tempo plays. Not holding your safety cds is asking to be picked. Same goes for every hero, even zen. (Don’t charge orbs when walking back from spawn if they have divers good players will wait out your volley and jump you)
Game Sense is ABSOLUTELY my weakest trait. Is there any way to teach/learn it? Any videos you'd recommend I watch, or thought processes/mantra's to change my way of playing?
I would appreciate it SO MUCH!! Thanks for reading/possibly replying! :)
- Enable sound cues for kills/deaths, subtitles, etc.
- Track and count important enemy cooldowns (how many seconds since moira used fade, how many teamfights since last shatter, etc)
- Have a few games where you say to yourself what you're doing. (always evaluate your though process)
- If you feel you got outplayed during a match watch the enemy pov to deduce what choices you took led you to get killed.
Note to self :- think while using any ability
Gotta admit, I too notice when I use her abilities as tempo. Still very dependent on your team tho. Some teams will instantly go aggro when you hit an early fat anti so they can capitalize. And some teams it doesn’t matter what you do as ana lol
litteraly got to top500 with 70% win percentage just spamming abilities
How do you think this advice works with or against that of Awkward's advice?
I should clarify, that awkward encourages using cooldowns on cooldown.. trying to get a sleep and nade off before the fight even starts. I guess if you do this during poke, the cooldowns will be back in time for the fight
It’s time to move on converting content for a new game. Continuing covering content for OW2 is only going to promote what Blizzard is doing with Overwatch 2.
I plan to use this information immediately.
the #1 ana who was on KarQ's stream says you should always be using your cooldowns?
This is refined advice 😌
1:20 he broke the fence and his sleep hit it and missed. Bro what the actual fuck id be so pissed. He probably would've landed that sleep aswell.
14k views after 2 days shows death looming over the hill coming for this game. What a shame
There’s certainly times that you need to initiate fights with ana
Awkward coaching KarQ advised the literal opposite strat (spam CDs)
Hows a metal rank player supposed to know which abilities are tempo and which are value?
How's a metal rank player supposed to have better aim? How are they supposed to improve anything in order to get out of metal rank? By practicing.
This £100 dollar tip I got from Blizzard-Activision is GROUNDBREAKING!
Diamond player?
Like ow1 diamond or ow2 season 2 booster diamond?
Because the 2 are very different and I would not consider this gameplay diamond.
Any hog you nade should be dead or running away. If you’re not finishing a hog without heals your team isn’t doing it right
ML7 literally just spams his ana abilities so what's the truth lol
Also, the #1 Ana player says to use abilities ASAP while coaching KarQ. I don't trust Freedo lol
this will be useful, thx
I uninstalled the game after playing since 2016 with the latest news. Good luck all that stick around
Can we now just admit that the 50/50 win rate and losers que BS was a lie from blizzard too??
I mean, these sorts of games have been around for decades. Losers que isnt an original thing to OW. It’s a design tool devs have been using for a while.
I watch a lot of Awkward and I watch this channel as well. I think a big part of Awkward's philosophy is to get in the reps. So, shoot a hundred Sleep Darts. AND EVALUATE each one. If you're at the level where you can land all your moves, then I think you can be a little more discriminating. But, if you miss all your Sleep Darts? Doing less Sleep Darts won't help you.
Could be wrong, would love to see a duo-coaching situation. Not to clash but for noobs to learn two POVs.
Enemy tank much higher than your tank? Weren't they supposed to fix that kind of matchmaking issue season or two ago?
Who am I kidding, this is Blizzard we're talking about. At the same time as they speak in a blog post "fair is fun", they also are just happily keeping about the broken matchmaker that pits high silver/low gold players against diamond/master players.
1:57 should have used nade on Orisa there, really bothers me to watch.
Okay fine 🙄 I'll be more patient
Why still make videos about OW if you've come out and said how much you hate how its being handled? That's like complaining about an abusive partner but not having the nerve to leave them lmao
He obviously loves the game, and he makes money from these videos
gotta pay the bills somehow man
does this Ana tip unlock overwatch pve? no? that's too bad
I have never clicked a video so fast
I wonder what Awkward would have to say about this 🤔
i couldn't play OW2 for 4 months or more.
i am in a military service right now but i was watching videos.
i heard too many saying OW2 is dead.
my favorite game is OW2. if someone can tell me the truth? is it really dead?
Awkward: use your abilities effectively to secure kills, don't hold onto them!
Freedo: hold onto your abilities because they're threatening!
Maybe there's more than 1 way to play ana? Very confusing if you consider both advice... Personally would rather listen to rank 1 ana honestly sorry
Its probably situational, for example some games you might want to use nades often to rush nano as quickly as possible and some games spamming nade is throwing because they have ways to cleanse it and its better to wait till after, some games you might save both to use defensively if they have a lot of people diving you
Awkward also says they don't have anything that can immediately threathen him like a flanker so he can use his cooldowns more liberally. If you gonna quote him at least quote everything he says.
@@ReaveIdono I didn't quote him...?
@Elie Saad If you want to play semantics that's fine. Just say what he said.
@@ReaveIdono what semantics? I literally didn't quote either person, why are you so fussed about just awkward? What are you on about?
Random cooldowns Go!
How many people are going to continue milking the PvE like I just play for fun
There is no PvE to milk
The reason that hog didn't die is because of poor awareness. Soldier started shooting before the nade went out and it didn't matter what the Ana did. Team COULD have killed the hog, they just didn't. You're targeting the wrong problem, my dude.
Ok i guess we lost the reasonable and human freedo for the next forseeable future ... No more the non optimistic emotional freedo bit we continue down the old path ...
Unsubbscribed forever
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Meh i feel like the community is too demoralised to care about getting better at ow.
Unfortunate timing on this advice as awkward just did vids with karq and svb on the exact opposite advice of yeeting early and only not using if there's an explicit threat
And then A10 told Metro he was using Helix far too early in fights. Metro argued that it's on a 6 second cooldown. To which A10 replied not having it here is why X character didn't die as they crossed into the open field.
We watch too much ml7 thinking we can do what he can do when we shoot our shot. e.g. sleep dart and nades
Playing support it means ducking support your team, heal them save them and do everything to keep them alive. If you want kill things play DPS or tank
Not to mention their positioning is kinda trash
i understand what your saying but your definitions of tempo and playing for value dont quite gel with me. tempo to me just describes the speed of the fight, which could be faster or slower. i dont know how it means "blowing your abilities early". and using CDs fast doesnt mean it will lack value. its all about reading the situation + luck. holding onto CDs TOO long to try to look for the biggest value to me would lose value because its wasted time and use. best way to describe what your saying is to just be intentional and more thoughtful with using cds
To be honest, I dont think anyone cares about these types of videos.
lol
Let game die 😂😂😂
Imagine still playing this game😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
why watch this video then ?
Because it's fun?
@@jgavpercussion fun?🤣🤣
Biggest tip is to not play this shit game :)
Yeah just delete the channel they killed the game rip
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It shows how much OW community is dying when almost any given time of day these days, the queue is 8+ minutes. For any role.
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