Overwatch 2: Why You SUCK at Lifeweaver! - Git Gud Guide

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  • @WinstonOfDojima
    @WinstonOfDojima ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Lifeweaver guide opening with Ana gameplay is a chad move.

    • @Deadly983
      @Deadly983 ปีที่แล้ว

      60 likes and no comment? I’ll change that.

    • @Deadly983
      @Deadly983 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a chad move indeed

    • @actuallyjustanapple
      @actuallyjustanapple ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Biggest lifeweaver tip is learning ana.

    • @realchiknuggets
      @realchiknuggets ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@actuallyjustanapple REAL

  • @lordtrinen2249
    @lordtrinen2249 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Thanks for the advice on my match I submitted. That was the first time I managed to play Lifeweaver against other players so mix that with my other flaws like my habit of tunnel vision and I'm going to have a lot of flaws.

    • @irjonesy
      @irjonesy ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks for submitting! We all get to learn from your gameplay and we all make mistakes like these, that’s why we watch these vids 😅

    • @sphenodon2016
      @sphenodon2016 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      agreed, thanks for submitting! must feel tough to be under the microscope, but it's nice to have the educational material come from it

    • @dylanmathew5387
      @dylanmathew5387 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Appreciate you putting yourself out there

    • @redoofstro
      @redoofstro ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree with the people who've thanked you for submitting, it helps both us and you to improve, win-win. Don't worry, I've got a ton of flaws like tunnel vision too lol

    • @lordtrinen2249
      @lordtrinen2249 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@redoofstro It's a bit embarassing to be used as a teaching aid but if that's what it takes to help and learn. I still repeated some of my same mistakes in my latest Lifeweaver match but at least it ended in victory so hopefully it means I did SOMETHING right.

  • @thedofflin
    @thedofflin ปีที่แล้ว +13

    11:45 I'd say there's one instance where it's important to stay on high ground and that's if you know you're about to get dived on. Using a petal while on high ground guarantees that you get the _highest_ high ground. If the dive enemy player also ends up on your petal, you can dash away and escape all the way down to the low ground...and ideally petal back up again to high ground once they've chased you down. Lifeweaver can be a VERY slippery hero if you use him right.

  • @timschutz9068
    @timschutz9068 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Bold of you to assume, I had the money to buy him

    • @shinitai.x
      @shinitai.x ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I have him for free

    • @ed4528
      @ed4528 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I got him for free through bing rewards, just make an account and just complete their daily challenges, you can pretty much make 200 ow coins a week ,more if you make more than one account just don't put down the same info on the other accounts

    • @Toast22013
      @Toast22013 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      i got him thru the free battlepass lol it doesnt take that long to get up to 45

    • @erenyeager007
      @erenyeager007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@ed4528 can you transfer money from one account to another?

    • @shinitai.x
      @shinitai.x ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Aydo bro im on lv 50 wtf go outside

  • @gmanz5
    @gmanz5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    We were worried about the troll liability or Lifeweaver. These clips prove we’re not good enough to troll a damn thing. Not for a long time

    • @realchiknuggets
      @realchiknuggets ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Accidental trolling. The first guy pulled an *invisible* sombra out of where she wanted to be; pulled an ulting brig out of melee range, multiple times. Worst pulls ever aside from killing your own teammate (and yes, that is very possible).

    • @Smitten02
      @Smitten02 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@realchiknuggets accidental trolling is possible on every champ in the game haha

    • @Boxxcutter
      @Boxxcutter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If a Mei ice walls at the start of the game, you better beweave I pull her ass back to spawn and say "no."

    • @ElmoRitter
      @ElmoRitter ปีที่แล้ว

      wtf game are you playing I get trolled all the time I hate lifeweaver

  • @sylvrwolflol
    @sylvrwolflol ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Like Symettra, the most important element of elite gameplay is _knowing when to swap off_

    • @jackobatgaming
      @jackobatgaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah and right now I feel like there are a lot of enemy heroes that make LW life miserable enough it's just more worth swapping off, especially since his ult STILL kinda sucks. It's fine to keep your team up during a hairy team fight where the enemy isn't launching an ult of their own, but compared to supports that actively empower an engagement or have a defensive ult that actually let's your team survive an enemy ult, LW's ult just doesn't feel like it measures up.

    • @fuscello
      @fuscello ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jackobatgaming nah tree is as good as coal and probably even charges slightly faster. It’s pretty good after the buffs

    • @retrorevival1
      @retrorevival1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the most important element of one-tricking is accepting that some games you will lose no matter what. play your hero. swapping is for babies.

    • @Pam234
      @Pam234 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fuscello transcendent is just better

    • @Stiffmiester979
      @Stiffmiester979 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@fuscellocoal doesn't LoS teammate abilities and get them killed. Tree does about as much harm as good ime. It's definitely not the best.

  • @ooochoa
    @ooochoa ปีที่แล้ว +19

    To be fair, i suck at him because i haven't unlock him.

  • @Rechsiren
    @Rechsiren ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There's a hidden nerve to lifeweaver's dash. Since you have to be in mid-air to use the dash, heroes like ramantra can prevent a lifeweaver from escaping their circle and the momentum tech to extend their dash is effectively removed as well. Overall it doesn't feel that good.

    • @realchiknuggets
      @realchiknuggets ปีที่แล้ว +1

      also the blizzard thing of buffing one thing a tiny bit, then nerfing something else significantly. that’s not gonna fly on a hero this weak

    • @thecanadiandefender1451
      @thecanadiandefender1451 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Overwatch players when the ability meant to counter movement abilities counters a movement ability: 🤯🤯🤯

    • @William256
      @William256 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thecanadiandefender1451 Except it isn't meant to counter all movement abilities. LW's dash was originally unaffected by vortex, but then change to Double Jump means he can't use it on the ground.

  • @tonyleo01
    @tonyleo01 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I like LW and I think he's pretty strong, but I still don't know why I would ever switch to him right now. Like, I don't think there's a situation that I would want to switch to him over other healers.

    • @Smitten02
      @Smitten02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i've found liveweaver to be really helpful either dealing with an enemy doomfist throwing your team around or to enable your own dive tank to burn all their cooldowns for extra damage then you can save them

    • @tonyleo01
      @tonyleo01 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smitten02 Seems that Aaron Keller felt the same sentiment based on the dev blog released today.

  • @artikll
    @artikll ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i love those vod reviews but i think it'd be nice if you also mentioned things the player did well :D for example when that lifeweaver used platform to get him and his teammate out of zarya grav, that was quite huge

    • @therealzahyra
      @therealzahyra ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He never does that, get used to it. It's really annoying. He uses his own clips to show how to do things correctly and then shits on all the submissions.

  • @-NoNo.
    @-NoNo. ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The one thing I don’t like is how they made his dash a double jump and yiu can’t get the benefit of fast primary switch without the double jump control. Having to double jump adds an extra input and since overwatch is a heavily fast paced game, that extra input can and will be the difference between life and death.

    • @ultracloudx
      @ultracloudx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same :o exactly when i thought when i first read the patch notes. Really wouldve been nice to keep it as a dash instead of a mandatory air dash

    • @NelsonBlakeII
      @NelsonBlakeII ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You try jump on mouse wheel?

    • @ultracloudx
      @ultracloudx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NelsonBlakeII oo creative thinking tbh lol. Unorthodox, but very interesting

    • @Gobbygoblin
      @Gobbygoblin ปีที่แล้ว

      if it takes you time and brain power to click spacebar twice idk what to say

    • @ultracloudx
      @ultracloudx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gobbygoblin thats not the concern. Discussion is about the difference between having a movement ability thats not required to be used in the air and one that is. Sure its really not that big of a deal in the end having to input 'jump' twice to use it, but its just more convenient having a dash that can be used with a single input and also on the ground too. Its marginally more convenient.

  • @Channel5Gaming
    @Channel5Gaming ปีที่แล้ว

    "Clicks Lifeweaver Get Gud Guide"
    "Sees Anna Footage"
    "Problem Solved!"
    ;)

  • @ghoulbuster1
    @ghoulbuster1 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    They should implement the parting gift passive into the Tree ultimate, when it gets destroyed the tree drops it.

    • @Gibbypastrami
      @Gibbypastrami ปีที่แล้ว

      Meh, kinda boring, tree already Guud

    • @jrm371
      @jrm371 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah

    • @ClosedProductions
      @ClosedProductions ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe every third dash can leave one up to 3 total. There's easy ways to tweak it to make it more useful without reworking it completely.

  • @ginpachi1
    @ginpachi1 ปีที่แล้ว

    The spongebob guy doing the turn around meme at the health pack killed me 😂😂😂

  • @tailgrowth
    @tailgrowth ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Trying out the new control mode, and honestly having the dash on a double jump command feels really bad. It means you only have that one half-second later to activate it when you really need to dip out and save yourself. Also, sometimes it just doesn't work depending on where you jump to? I'm not sure if I should switch back to the old control mode or stick with it, because the weapon swapping DOES feel better in the new way...

    • @redoofstro
      @redoofstro ปีที่แล้ว

      I kind of like the double jump, but to be fair I never played lifeweaver before the change

    • @skyline80428
      @skyline80428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@redoofstro it's bad. especially because it requires 3 inputs to do a directional dash. additionally, people already have muscle memory of him before... so the change is worse

  • @Themetasinman
    @Themetasinman ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love your guides man! Been trying really hard to get used to the character

  • @hammadvulgar5884
    @hammadvulgar5884 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve mained lifeweaver in comp for 24 straight hours now and gone from silver 2 to bronze 5
    Proof that ow2 support role is a luck based game in terms of matchmaking. My own gameplay has only gotten better. I only use life grip to save teammates from ults and environment, but it doesn’t matter if they are completely incapable of killing anyone. I have anti dream luck.
    I use platform as an escape or as high ground for myself almost exclusively because if I try to pull up a hit scan all they do is walk right off.

  • @Vapor.Steve77
    @Vapor.Steve77 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is my honest idea of how to rework Lifeweaver. He's really powerfull and useful, the problem is that he's neutral game feels useless. Would be cool if someone that he hurt dies to drop the flower he used to when he was dead. That way he just prioritize dealing damage to heal and chargin ult which is he's super heal. Other than that i think he's a really tactic hero

    • @IgorJCorrea
      @IgorJCorrea ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The whole point of his kit is that he shouldn't spend time dealing damage unless it's 100% safe, you're playing him wrong.

    • @louis-patricklauzon7044
      @louis-patricklauzon7044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ngl hes healing is prty ayt

    • @d00mnoodle62
      @d00mnoodle62 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lifeweaver's lore and character is all about avoiding conflict and only using violence when there's literally no other option. This would feel so wrong for his character

    • @theSato
      @theSato ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I get where you're coming from, but this is against the point and spirit of the character - what you're basically saying is "this character wasn't made for me, but it'd be cool if it was made for me, and here's how they could make it for me"

    • @fuscello
      @fuscello ปีที่แล้ว

      1) getting a kill should be more than enough incentive to use the thorns, especially now that they got buffed;
      2) it’s not really an interesting perk to have as it is basically just a win more feature;
      3) it doesn’t help his neutral at all, because as soon as you get a kill you leave neutral lol

  • @Gibbypastrami
    @Gibbypastrami ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wish they had made it so if you hold down the jump button after jumping that you activate a glide like Mercy, with an animation where the petal on his back spins and acts like an umbrella, softening his fall speed, then maybe make Dash be on a crouch double click
    Double tap and hold jump to glide
    Double tap crouch to dash
    Then all the other new controls they’re introducing
    Idk, could’ve been a cool way to do it, might also lead to so cool lifegrips
    Edit: also maybe make it so you have to hold the petal platforms button down and fill a little circle to destroy it, but if you place it and then tap it after somebody steps on it and it starts going up, you stop the platform mid ascension, allowing for some shorter elevators,
    then eventually they could introduce new animations to it, so the platform originally isn’t bloomed, it’s closed up but still flat to step on, then when you step on it, it starts going up and “blooming”, unfurling, as it does, that makes it so it gives a tiny bit more cover until it’s full flat at full height, not a lot more, but it’ll reliably cover the bottom half of shortish characters as it goes up, characters like tracer and Torb would probably be able to crouch under it, but they can’t shoot through it, or shouldn’t at least
    Also allow junkerqueen to cancel her ult like a rein pin, I’ve been wanting this change for the longesttttttt, just do this Quality of Life thing before changing anything else about her

  • @t.j.maverick7830
    @t.j.maverick7830 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First day Lifeweaver was in ranked and the team whose Lifeweaver didn't switch early was the team that lost. Going to take a while for the community to learn how to use him well. This should be required viewing before selecting him!

  • @heathgolik1877
    @heathgolik1877 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    He's fun
    I've been practicing a lot with him an got 21k healing in game.
    Hear is the easy way to play him.
    You stay in the far back an heal like ana an zen bam there ya go

    • @kulla8587
      @kulla8587 ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially cause it’s pretty much impossible to miss with his heals, playing in the back is my preferred method as well

    • @redoofstro
      @redoofstro ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy shit, 21k? I've only gotten 19k when I go nutty with Mercy, that's impressive.

  • @joeshmoe1293
    @joeshmoe1293 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There should be an option with these new Lifeweaver settings to still have your Dash on LShift. I didn’t mind scroll wheel down for Petal Platform with Dash on shift. Now if you want to use the new shooting style, you are forced to have Dash on jump. Not a huge complaint but I don’t know why it’s not customizable.

  • @freazeezy
    @freazeezy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The masters player rarely used the full heal charge. Stopping at around 35-40 charge. Is that better?

    • @Mox_SC
      @Mox_SC ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah basically . the middle ground between speed/quantity .

    • @redoofstro
      @redoofstro ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with Remii, it's the nice middle ground. It's like balancing on a knife, sometimes the 35-40 spam is better, other times it's good to give them a full pump to keep them off 1 health, depends on the situation

  • @theJCx
    @theJCx ปีที่แล้ว +8

    While Dva into Zarya is generally not a great matchup, having Lifeweaver paired with Lucio while having that Dva is even more questionable especially in Masters.

    • @fuscello
      @fuscello ปีที่แล้ว

      That dva 100% wasn’t master, probably silver

  • @RudeXII
    @RudeXII ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:36, are you sure this dude is gold? he looks bronze like he literally doesnt even have basic movement mechanics down, he looks like he doesnt really understand how to even move inside the game, doing things like missing picking up the healthpack etc

    • @Paul-zh2jp
      @Paul-zh2jp ปีที่แล้ว

      possibly console, where the ranks are off from pc. the player after that was face tanking bastion, so they're obviously very new to the game. not flaming anyone, but you tend to learn not to do that early on

    • @bitpine
      @bitpine ปีที่แล้ว

      According to the matchmaker I'm console gold rn and I agree this guy looked bronze. Very little understanding of movement, ceilings, angles, etc.

  • @PirateWalnut
    @PirateWalnut ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is another shadow nerf to Lifeweaver if you use the new controls. If you use the new controls you can no longer bunnyhop with dash because you have to double jump and bunnyhops need to be done on flat ground.

    • @flounderflounder6833
      @flounderflounder6833 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just rebind it

    • @PirateWalnut
      @PirateWalnut ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flounderflounder6833 I mean I'm using the manual controls still cause I personally like them better. Just sucks that the new controls does that since in the new controls make dash bound to jump

  • @gabrielcharles3960
    @gabrielcharles3960 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good timing, just sat down to eat

    • @Toast22013
      @Toast22013 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      relatable cant eat without youtube

  • @ASpicyGator
    @ASpicyGator ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like for uncoordinated play kiriko just does more than lifeweaver. Better dmg kill pressure healing ult movement survivability and suzu feels more versatile than life grip as you can keep someone in the fight and cleanse.

    • @skylerfreeman1173
      @skylerfreeman1173 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But you can't get them out of a trash position with kiriko. She also doesn't counter ults well - lifeweaver counters Tons of ults. Kiriko can't heal through shields, weaver can heal over them (ive found it very useful for again... out of position teammates), Weaver healing travel time is damn near instant AND goes through walls if you release it before they go out of LoS, kiriko heals will hit whatever terrain are there and WILL miss if an ally uses a dash or something like moira fade.
      There's pros and cons. Happens.

    • @theSato
      @theSato ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skylerfreeman1173 yes, there's pros and cons, but anyone can make arguments like this about any weak hero.
      Like if Lucio were currently in C tier, and other supports are way better atm, someone could still be a Lucio apologist and say "yeah but no one does the consistent reliable speed boosts like Lucio does, plus he's great on maps like Ilios well, plus he heals the whole team at the same time if they're around him, the character has pros and cons, imagine that"
      About "Kiriko doesn't counter ults well" - you are just full of it here - I'm a Kiriko main and the majority of ults are counterable. You can throw a Suzu down right before Earthshatter hits, and you and your nearby allies are instantly cleansed of it (or early enough and block it altogether). You can suzu with good timing right before Junkrat's tire detonates. You can suzu to buy a moment to reposition/counter ults like Pharah, Torbjorn, Soldier or Hanzo. You can cleanse Mei and Orisa's slow/pull for the team to walk right out. You can block all the slam damage from Sigma ult for a gripped ally or two if done well. The list goes on and on and on. Life grip only really counters solo ults (and genji ult by denying his first reset) and only if you're the not the one being solo ulted. Suzu counters/saves multiple allies potentially, including yourself. It's no contest.
      The only time Lifeweaver is truly good is in coordinated play, where a dive character can be in comms and be extra aggressive, knowing Weaver is there to pull them out when need be - or things like coordinating the platform lift with allies who would greatly benefit from it. In uncoordinated play, he is B- tier at best and D+ at worst.

  • @royl734
    @royl734 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok ok if I have 15k healing 25 assist in comp but only 1k in dps as Lifeweaver am I making the team loose because I’m not doing as much dmg as my dps in comp

    • @redoofstro
      @redoofstro ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a non-comp player that sounds pretty good. If your team won then that seems like a decent balance, it'd be better to see what a comp player says though

  • @taviddurley7502
    @taviddurley7502 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Weapon swapping can still be useful for reloading both the heal and the thorn gun. They both have their own ammo supplies, so makes sense to swap and reload vs try firing

  • @Solarimeshari
    @Solarimeshari ปีที่แล้ว

    The dude has already created a guide when I haven’t touched the hero yet!

  • @justinpope5457
    @justinpope5457 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If everyone sucks doesn't that mean we all are average? 😂

    • @neptunechariots2299
      @neptunechariots2299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah we’re all… *cough* average… just some guys are more average than me.

    • @redoofstro
      @redoofstro ปีที่แล้ว

      The biggest brain

  • @jrmy6519
    @jrmy6519 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Lifeweaver: It’s not me, it’s you.

  • @ryvyr
    @ryvyr ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers for the breakdown Freedo :>

  • @jesserydland8286
    @jesserydland8286 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still use the old control layout for Lifeweaver, Space for Dash and Shift for petal feels SO clunky and wrong to me. Might just be me tho

  • @DantesflameX
    @DantesflameX ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely love life weaver after the rework on the controls but I’m so confused why his healing is on a road load when his healing is already very slow.

  • @evanvaldez1158
    @evanvaldez1158 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've blocked fire strikes with a well-timed pedal lifting

  • @DreadedLad88
    @DreadedLad88 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do believe your basic concept of weaver is a bit off. Yes its good to throw an early petal ... But that cool down makes Weaver a mobility character(when used properly) he can position a bit more aggressively than maybe you realize.

  • @finnbacon
    @finnbacon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The title for me cut off at “Why you suck at life…” The universe is speaking to me!!

  • @theSato
    @theSato ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we just appreciate the Lifeweaver's name in the clips at 6:10 onward

  • @ZaWrldo
    @ZaWrldo ปีที่แล้ว

    "You need a character that wants to int"
    You see Fredo that's why I play Lucio

  • @guzzy19901
    @guzzy19901 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really really don’t like having the dash be bound to double jumping

  • @J.R.Swish1
    @J.R.Swish1 ปีที่แล้ว

    After first day of Lifeweaver in Comp I have mixed feelings... On one hand, his healing buffs feel pretty decent now, so he does manage to somewhat keep squishies alive. Also obviously had a troll in one of the games (kept life gripping people on full HP that were safely taking space and dealt a total of 300 dmg in almost 15 minutes of a match) but that's bound to happen.
    The real problem comes when he's played with another somewhat low/targeted healing output support as his combo. It's very low healing for the team as a whole, especially for the tank since they lose a lot of HP very fast due to their large hitboxes. Also, I haven't played him yet, but I was expecting with the buffs to his weapon spread and controls, that Lifeweavers would be doing a lot more damage. Sad to say that i didnt play a single game where a lifeweaver had more than 2500 dmg, and most games, they had around 500-1000 dmg. Healing numbers were fine, but as we know every burst takes a long time to charge, so its hard to do damage in between heals. This makes it so that if not played with another support that could in theory deal high heal numbers from all ranges (like Ana or Bap), people always play Lifeweaver like a healbot behind the team and don't help with any damage on their end. This makes for very difficult games especially if your support combo is Weaver/Mercy. Mercy has the damage boost at least to help, but she doesn't do any damage herself, and neither does Lifeweaver or else the tank is literally dead

    • @jackobatgaming
      @jackobatgaming ปีที่แล้ว

      His healing feels a little better without the slowdown on charge up, but mixing in damage still feels like it takes a risk you don't have on most other supports. Since his heal is a charge up NOT having a charge heal ready to fly means that if a team mate takes a big hit and needs a heal you'll need time to swap weapons and charge that heal and by then the team mate could have taken follow up damage that they'd have survived if you had just held a charge heal instead. Kiriko feels better in this regard in that while she has to deal with a slow heal travel time instead of a charge up, she's weaving in damage while that heal is traveling and by the time the heal lands she can decide whether it's worth sending more pre-emptize healing or to throw more damage out. And of course Bap, Zen, Lucio, Moira don't even need to think about their heal to damage timing because they can swap between the two almost instantly.

    • @redoofstro
      @redoofstro ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of factors play in how good LW can be. Granted this was in quick play, but I was LW and my fellow support was Zen, and we kept our team alive well. I'm sure it was just massive skill issue on the enemy team, but at least Zen + LW can sometimes work

    • @jackobatgaming
      @jackobatgaming ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redoofstro I don't think anyone is suggesting that LW is unplayable. He's not an outright throw pick (I don't think any of the heroes are in OW2.) I think the enemy comp matters and how hard they decide to come after LW determines whether or not he can be played. LW escapes are so situational and there are plenty of enemy picks that could essentially negate them and make him a very easy kill. Slow healing, a bad ult, low damage, and situational escapes all combine into his strengths just aren't worth his weaknesses if he gets focused at all. If the rest of your team is good and can hold a strong front line with enough damage and kills to keep the enemy from constantly pushing in, and they are fast to turn and deal with flankers, then LW can do his job and get those flashy saves.

  • @frankmc8355
    @frankmc8355 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whelp, gg me. The whole fun part of his kit was swapping back and forth for the free reload and no downtime. Now the reload is PAINFULLY long.
    I really wish we could have played with the auto reload longer before they dumpstered it.

    • @HumbleJesus
      @HumbleJesus ปีที่แล้ว

      I know bruh whole community said “NOOOO IM NOT GOOD AT IT YET!!!” Edit: and the shit wasn’t even that difficult either how tf is swapping weapons almost instantly clunky dawg. Damn Moira players smh EDIT 2: I am mad

  • @mattgee5396
    @mattgee5396 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you make a guide of heroes suited to game mode?

    • @Ejje
      @Ejje ปีที่แล้ว

      It's more about the specific maps and less about game modes.

  • @PeaceLoveAndRico
    @PeaceLoveAndRico ปีที่แล้ว

    I always poke until im almost dead, then grab a buddy to shield myself as i run in fear. 😂

  • @stachu5049
    @stachu5049 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love Lifeweaver, he once saved my rein from certain death by pulling me out of a corner

  • @nirmalroygames
    @nirmalroygames ปีที่แล้ว

    I was playing him yesterday, i found out that you can destroy the petal even when you are spectating. So whenever enemy is on my pp I destroy it lol

  • @amitgabay3721
    @amitgabay3721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm going to go ahead and assume that it's because I haven't played him yet

  • @NintendoPolitics
    @NintendoPolitics ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why I am bad at Lifeweaver:
    1) I do not have him unlocked
    2) (see above)
    3) ^^^
    4) profit?

  • @ehjhey7
    @ehjhey7 ปีที่แล้ว

    tbh, I still suck on lifeweaver because I refused to train my muscle memory on him until the rework hit. Lets see how it goes now

  • @Derek-lb3zr
    @Derek-lb3zr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GG that was me…

  • @asymmetricfuzion970
    @asymmetricfuzion970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been playing him today. He falls apart on a crap team for sure. He’s all about enabling other characters but he’s actually not bad. His healing is totally fine. Life grip is useful for tanks and pulling other supports back when they get low supporting someone. I had some great synergies with a torb turret in my last game (did a 6 minute hold on last point when our crappy tank left). His lock on is useful.
    Yeah. He’s fine. I played him before the rework and he SUCKED. He was terrible. Now he’s not bad. I would play him over some of the others especially depending on the map

  • @Mill0d0n
    @Mill0d0n ปีที่แล้ว

    I was playing him for two rounds and the other support asked me to swap so he could try the character. Two minutes later he swapped cause he didn't like it. Too many people want to play this character as a huge play maker and not as a support.

  • @normanadams7470
    @normanadams7470 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate the new controls it basically nerfs your dash distance by 50% I don't think there is a single good reason to use it unless u are incapable of swapping weapons with a button

  • @saturn724
    @saturn724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    haven't even got the chance to play him yet, 34 BP levels to go...

    • @redoofstro
      @redoofstro ปีที่แล้ว

      Trudge on, brother, and good luck

  • @charlieroebuck4240
    @charlieroebuck4240 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm having a hard time watching that gold player gameplay. I've seen bronze players play more actively than that.

  • @ryanh4975
    @ryanh4975 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They should add a DPS with a RPG that can one shot with primary fire. Can also go back in time like tracer on 5 second cooldown.

  • @ID_Station
    @ID_Station ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay so LW works well with tanks that can't get out of the fight fast enough on their own like Rein, Ram, Orisa and Zarya. And any DPS that doesn't have an ability thatll save them when they are low like cass and Genji. This will help me know when to play LW cuz during the wrong match ups, he is just trash lol

  • @KoodaYT
    @KoodaYT ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Already played 3 games of his new patch... Can't say how dissapointed I am. The movment reduction is good, The new ability button button layouts are good... but his problems are still sustained. His thorn volley is STILL so weak that there's no point in defending when being dove on and his alt swap from flower to thorns is so slow you can't react efficiently. 😤

    • @ultracloudx
      @ultracloudx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like it or not, his low damage output is intentional and part of his design identity. I'd like to be able to kill more reliably with thorns too but it's an aspect we'll have to abandon because its just not really a main part of his kit due to the devs' design. Best to just lean to the things hes actually efficient at to have fun with him 🤷‍♂️

    • @Hatemx1
      @Hatemx1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@ultracloudx He's not efficient at anything lmao.

    • @ultracloudx
      @ultracloudx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hatemx1 lolllll yea...

  • @ElmoRitter
    @ElmoRitter ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate playing with lifeweavers on my team. Whenever I'm trying to bait someone into a room with a mine on the ground and 2 ready to go they pull me out from making the play. Just a waste of space

  • @godloops
    @godloops ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know how to revert back to the previous LW control scheme?

    • @Shikaitsu
      @Shikaitsu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it should be in his settings . not every characters but his specifically,it should say use manual weapon swap control scheme or something like that

  • @shinigami1357
    @shinigami1357 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i suck at lifeweaver? but..ive never played him...

  • @Projekt1251Official
    @Projekt1251Official ปีที่แล้ว

    Hol6 shot. That gold lifeweaver footage was painful to watch. This was not only gold footage. It was console gold footage at that.

  • @nowshipping
    @nowshipping ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why you taking to me that way, Freedo?

  • @waren78657
    @waren78657 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be frank, my muscle memory after 7h of playing him don't whant to give up, so the last few matches with him i totally sucked

  • @BigZaddyYumYum
    @BigZaddyYumYum ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Git gud guide hell yeah!!!

  • @Shifterfire
    @Shifterfire ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate that I cant rebind my dash anymore. So f'ing annoying, so I'm back to the old config... :s

  • @zenpvnk
    @zenpvnk ปีที่แล้ว

    Already top win rate and second-highest in total healing... then gets buffs. Yeah, good job Blizz. Why don't we buff Ana while we're at it... maybe extend anti-nade to 8 second duration.

    • @William256
      @William256 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like you're a bronze stats goblin that doesn't actually understand the game.

  • @jrm371
    @jrm371 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just don’t think he’s worth the effort. His kit is too niche and controls and abilities still not intuitive, even with the update.

    • @jackosullivan8539
      @jackosullivan8539 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fr he’s just too much effort to get any value, vs playing any other support and getting value from less work

  • @goldenking0867
    @goldenking0867 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm the first lifeweaver and yes I have got the hang of the character 😅😅

  • @yoshiokojima9151
    @yoshiokojima9151 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really need an option to let me assign old shift!!!!

  • @PhilMihaly
    @PhilMihaly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My God I can't stand Dva players who sit in their own backline and try to snipe from range with her shotguns. The fact that the last clip was a Masters game is actually just atrocious. That Dva should be in silver.

  • @imajedi576
    @imajedi576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every Life Weaver player playing like a wood rank rn

  • @lopezjdamian
    @lopezjdamian ปีที่แล้ว

    These Life Weavers only playing the hero cause it's new and shiny and not because they understand how to play him or wanting to learn to play him. I wish people would stop throwing matches thinking they're good .

  • @antokiofficial
    @antokiofficial ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate his new rework. It's supposed to be better but after playing him for over 10 hours it feels clunky again. I'm getting used to it but I miss his original controls.

    • @Hatemx1
      @Hatemx1 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can still have it by switching to it in the controls menu.

  • @mr.conductor4938
    @mr.conductor4938 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm glad to hear that Blizzard is telling us that we're the problem, and not the character, lmao. Again.

  • @JoeSmoe1
    @JoeSmoe1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry but im just done with him. Not because of my team mate, its ME. I genuinely want to help but im a silver player. went i make the right move i get yelled at and the refuse to accept why i did it, when i make the wrong move ( like pulling someone to safety only to find out they were about to kill a mercy) i get flamed. This hero was not made for lower tier players like myself and is a throw pick because the healing is disappointing, team mates dont even use the pedal lift, damage is weak and the pull move is gonna take ALOT of practice, thus hurting every team i play on. I can tell hes god tier in like diamond and above, but seeing how little amount of people are actually in those ranks (10% at best) its basically a different game at that point.

    • @NelsonBlakeII
      @NelsonBlakeII ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In lower ranks, his healing is way better than you think. Just take high ground and spam healing and it's really easy to keep up with higher stat healers, because at that level, they're not being played at maximum efficiency, while your healing literally can't miss. As a rule, only pull people who are completely isolated or one shot. Only use petal for yourself unless you are specifically making a play like dodging an ult.

    • @skmkr5222
      @skmkr5222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keep practising him. Being humble about your personal skill level makes you 10 times better than the average silver player that thinks they should be in plat or higher. Sure he can be a throw pick but if you keep practising you will learn how to use life grip to it's fullest potential. Just swap to a different support when you realize that you don't provide much value for your team.

    • @JoeSmoe1
      @JoeSmoe1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skmkr5222 ty

  • @THEpicND
    @THEpicND ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I suck at life weaver because I don’t have him unlocked (thanks Blizzard)

  • @FossilApostle
    @FossilApostle ปีที่แล้ว

    We should get this change for Mercy and Torbjorn just sayin
    Double jump for mercy jump and alt fire as pistol
    Melee should just be hammer for torb

  • @ihavecrabs56
    @ihavecrabs56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i keep pressing shift thinking its my dash lol. if i could i would remap it to dash instead of double jump... anyways, i would give him 2 charges of his platform and let him dash to them if they arent too far away. kinda like how kiriko can port to allies, he could tp to his platforms.

  • @adiadii3729
    @adiadii3729 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lifeweaver hitbox massively huge

  • @Cakefan2763
    @Cakefan2763 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to play lw:healbot because hitting his projectiles is too hard

  • @shookds
    @shookds ปีที่แล้ว

    Lifeweaver still needs buffs. I’m a support main and his healing and damage are just way way too low. What a shitty way to release a character. Sojourn was meta for like 2+ months and support get this gimpy hero. Also charging up his heal is very tedious after doing it a bunch. It just doesn’t feel good healing with him compared to other healers. The targeting when your teammates are grouped sucks. Compare it to zen where if you harmony the wrong teammate you just hit the button again and it goes to a different teammate even if they are stacked. Really disappointed

  • @conraddevera
    @conraddevera ปีที่แล้ว

    can he be u locked without paying?

    • @nicholasliegey4478
      @nicholasliegey4478 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you must get tier 45 in the battle pass this season.

    • @conraddevera
      @conraddevera ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicholasliegey4478 oh OK similar to the last one. and oh it resets right.. alright fair enough, thanks

  • @testertesteb4915
    @testertesteb4915 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im not even gonna play main role ranked for the next 7 days bc of all the new lifeweaver players... its always the same with a new hero people pick them and suck at it but refuse to switch

    • @Chachixo
      @Chachixo ปีที่แล้ว

      I just try to make sure I pick them first in that case. I used to do the same with Mercy when I was lower rank and she wasn't as good a pick lol.

  • @1nZayne
    @1nZayne ปีที่แล้ว

    It's called a magazine

  • @skylerfreeman1173
    @skylerfreeman1173 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First ranked match: 4k damage , 20k healing --- I MEAN NO WAIT BUFF HIM! He sucks!!

    • @William256
      @William256 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can play Ana, get over double that damage and more healing whilst also providing potent Anti-nades and nanoboosts, WHILE ALSO providing powerful CC in the form of sleep dart. LW isn't good.

  • @sleepy4744
    @sleepy4744 ปีที่แล้ว

    best way to play lifeweaver is to swap off life weaver

  • @kylehouse1113
    @kylehouse1113 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lifeweaver has an interesting design but I think his abilities are far too niche and require too much work in order to achieve a similar value as other supports. A blindfolded, fingerless mercy using a track ball and rolling their wheelchair across the keyboard still provides way too much value relative to their input. "But mercy requires good positioning" umm no she doesn't, she's the most mobile hero in the game with both horizontal and vertical escape options oN A 2 SECOND CD. Her staff goes through walls, barriers, extends its own range and doesn't even require her target to be on screen with its only downtime being when she stops to briNG SOMEONE BACK TO LIFE. Even her pistol doesnt need aiming. Never in ANY game has a character's tier ranking been so blatantly disproportionate to the skill level required to effectively play them as mercy. Does no one else think it's weird that the average mercy main drops 2k rating the moment they dont choose mercy and have the character play itself while everyone else stays within close range of their main hero's role? Seeing a mercy in my lobby immediately makes me want to close the game, she's certainly not fun to play against and for anyone who does enjoy playing mercy Im sorry but theres a good chance you enjoy her so much because you get your fucking ass kicked when you try play anyone else.
    Regardless of additions or changes to the game, it will remain perpetually stale as long as Blizzard's balance philosophy doesnt change to address fuckups like mercy. We've already seen blizzard has no intention of meaningfully nerfing mercy or reworking her to put her tier ranking more in line with her skill level whether that be making her harder to play or reducing her effective value. They're too cowardly to do it. Once PvE story content is dropped and subsequently flopped this game will simply exist in limbo, basically dead, until a new hero shooter developed outside of China is released. Blizzard has the luxury of not having to compete against other developers which is very fortunate for them because if valve made TF3, OW would be gone faster than a lawyers morals
    "Never accept a shitty game as it seems to be, dare to see it for what it could be" - Some video game monke, idk prolly Donkey Kong

    • @Hatemx1
      @Hatemx1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take a chill pill, Kyle. It's not that deep.

    • @William256
      @William256 ปีที่แล้ว

      Two words; skill issue

    • @kylehouse1113
      @kylehouse1113 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@William256 so are you a butthurt mercy main who cant provide a single valid argument why im wrong about her or are you so clueless that you actually think lifeweavers kit is good relative to the rest of the current support roster, for which you also cannot provide a single valid argument. Using a semicolon correctly suggests you have a brain, but Billy you truly are a special child. Since the general concensus (by the ow community as a whole, for years) is that mercy is by far the least skill reliant hero so Im going to assume your piss poor comment is about lifeweaver.
      something like "you only think lifeweaver isnt good coz you suck" right? every season has a 1 trick of each hero in top 500 but that doesnt mean the character is good does it?
      "my gold reinhardt duo said i played lifeweaver way better than the randoms theyve played with".
      And the fact that you come onto a channel that analyzes heroes and gameplay elements but all you can do is dribble out some nonsensical shit before hitting send shows that you have absolutely no fucking idea what is going on in this game and are AT MOST NA gold which roughly equates to 1200 sr globally.
      You speak, yet you say nothing. Your thoughts are as hollow as your head, no substenance. You are a joke Will.
      Fuck off and dont bother coming back until you can manage to fire up more than a single neuron pathway and come up with a reply that at least has some relevance to it.
      Better yet, cease contributing to the heat death of the universe, you have nothing to offer, a rock has more valid input than you.
      Two words; actual nonfactor

    • @blackholesun4942
      @blackholesun4942 ปีที่แล้ว

      I ain't reading alla that but good for you. Or sorry that it happened idk

  • @DjNaste
    @DjNaste ปีที่แล้ว

    Lifeweaver sucks ass. The changes made him at least feel cleaner to play with, but he still just doesn't do anything. The core issue with this hero is that he doesn't have anything proactive that he can do to influence the game on his own. His whole kit is designed around your teammates making the plays for you. The pull can do cool things, but it ultimately does nothing if your team doesn't know what to do after. I wouldn't be surprised if he sees some pro play due to much higher levels of coordination, but he is a straight-up garbage hero for ladder players.

  • @ThePaulGomes
    @ThePaulGomes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my opinion, Lifeweaver is arguably the worst support to have been put out. His kit is so weird and clunky. Besides the ally pull, you can provide way more value to your team by picking literally any other support.

  • @jeremypcleung
    @jeremypcleung ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im just worried about the unintentional trolling that will happen when people that don't know how to play lifeweaver will "save" me with grip when im hard engaging - imagine getting a 5 man shatter and getting yoinked all the way to narnia because you were somewhat low health

  • @elmango8528
    @elmango8528 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PEOPLE REALLY TRYNA GET GOOD WITH THIS CHRACTER 💀

    • @44turnips
      @44turnips ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's why you're stuck in silver

    • @elmango8528
      @elmango8528 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@44turnips Prolly higher than u

    • @44turnips
      @44turnips ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elmango8528 gold 5

    • @44turnips
      @44turnips ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elmango8528 go back to brawl stars, it's all your pea sized brain can handle

    • @elmango8528
      @elmango8528 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@44turnips Plat 1

  • @shutupMaji
    @shutupMaji ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't even have Rammatra yet

  • @SpiritxEnergy
    @SpiritxEnergy ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not everyone . I'm good in my hood

  • @IgorJCorrea
    @IgorJCorrea ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want the platform to be used by pressing interact,being able to go up and back down again, teammates would need to get on top of it to use while lifeweaver can activate from distance. Also he should be able to reposition his tree once per use, as your team takes space you can follow them with the tree on a new position or use the burst heal to save an ally then move the tree to the frontline and keep it there.

  • @withers102
    @withers102 ปีที่แล้ว

    This gold player looks incredibly consistently confused lol

  • @KingArthur101
    @KingArthur101 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are people not able to climb in overwatch 2 its literally so damn easy i lost 30 games and i still ranked up to grandmasters 3 from master 5 like wtf

  • @clown3996
    @clown3996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EARLY!!!!!!!!!!