@@captainbenzie HAHAHA 🤣 i have a better perception of a Myrmidon. Both the Drone cruisers at t7, Prophecy and Myrmidon, look like birds. Prophecy is a turkey Myrmidon is a Zombie Hen or Woodpecker with both arms stretched out. The Zombie vibes can be felt with the greenish hue of the skin
My fit is basically: bat, knight (Holy cow the rep per tick is ridiculous), mwd, battery, and a DC. 5x mk7 hammerheads ( atm thermal outperforms others overall dmg wise), 2x webs for those pesky enemies with mwds. A nos in case someone does get in neut range. And flints. For rigs I took 2x tier 2 drone range rig and a t2 drone dmg output rig and 3 cap rigs. 400 drone dps at 63 km range, dc and mwd in case I need to get away fast. Battery in case of emergency and I need to have mwd and rep going while keeping distance. And rails if something slips in 30km range. So far im chilling in t8 stories.
I've heard this elsewhere, why do Hammerheads outperform others damage-wise? I know they face the lowest total resistance across shields and armor, but the difference is small so I wonder if there's some other factor. I heard a rumor that a bug causes them to attack more quickly from several corp mates, but I've never tested or confirmed that. Also jw why rails instead of strike cannons or long range missiles to get a bit of extra DPS for the 30-50km range?
Benzie. As a heads up. The drone speed augmentor rig is far suprior and a lotcheaper then the drone damage rig. Everyone thinks it increases flight speed. But it actually increases attack speed and thus multiplying with all other forms of %damage already from skills and hull bonus. The damage difference is HUGE. Maybe make a video about this. It will help a lot of people out.
@@captainbenzie on a cruiser it's better dps to put on 2 speed rigs. on a BC the 3e speed rig gives Almost the same bonus as 1 damage rig. But considering the price difference it's not worth spending 6x the price for a couple DPS. But a lot of people do not know this.
Would like to see a comparison of BCs - harby, prophecy, myrmidon, etc. I've been training into drone skills but no idea how to start fitting the different types.
Cap could you make a mid range shield tanked budget cyclone fit? I'm buying a rigged one from a friend and want to get a lower prices high damage fit, so I can get good isk\hour running the t7 encounters
Sadly Echoes did NOT do the Myrmidon justice. Running 2 armor Reppers your cap gets drained far too quickly, forcing you to use up one of your slots for a battery. The Prophecy has almost 1000 more cap base and higher recharge as well. In addition it can become cap stable with 1 Repper and each type of armor module, CLOSE to cap stable with an afterburner added onto that as well. In the end there's just no contest and that makes me so sad. I love the look of this ship so much better.
Before investing i had to choose between prophecy and myrm. Sadly, there's really no contest. All my corpies went proph while I was like: eh screw it #gallentefanboy4life
Just looked to Prophecy and it has same 2689 GJ capacitor and same 510.0 sec recharge time. The only noticible difference is armor resist instead of armor repair efficiency.
At least on the Prophecy, you can barely fit a Large armor rep while using a T2 powergrid rig. The large is roughly equivalent to 2 medium reps which really helps with slot efficiency.
We have tottaly diferent ship design taste, as I hate how Myrmidon looks :D Even i would prefer armor repair over resistance, i will upgrade my vexor with Prophecy, because I adore its simple design. Also thanks to your video I realize that armor hardners give only ~20%. I didnt know that there is that diference between ~30% shield resistance.
Any chance of getting some videos related to weapons? I realize you have gone over each ship, even ship lines like the Trasher line video. I would like to see something similar for weapon types. For example, if you are all in on cannons here are your best options for ships as you move up the tree. If you are a railgunner here are your options. Hopefully that makes sense. Love the content.
OK. I thought I had got over my love of drone ships but I've been flying a dragoon and love echoes drone gameplay. How many months will I need to farm isk to get this bad boy?
Just got a prophecy yesterday, Prophecy is better. You can just run armor rep, 2 of each hardener, drone dmg amplifier, and be cap stable on prophecy without needing Nos. Cannot replicate the same on myrmidon. Plus amarr ships look better! I'm reaching 563 dps with 63 km range. Also, strike cannons are better with far more range.
Hmm i am doing fine soloing missions.. i don't have cap problems any more.. o.o I can tank well to i solo tec 9 missions.. i just had help building the domix.. That means more skills to train 🙌
Let me help you: if you want an overall better ship, get prophecy. If you want to tear off your shirt and shout "FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY" every time you lock in a ship, go myrm.
I have both. I got the myrm first and rigged it for tank so I can solo pve. I have a bubble boy ratting fleet prophecy with four bats and ab in the lows. No tank all gank.
Have you actually used a reactive armor hardener? You say it takes just a smudge too long to react, but in fact it reacts instantly as soon as you take any damage to armor. It is not like in EVE Online where it reacted a little every cycle, no this one fully adapts armor resistances after 1 single hit to your armor.
@@captainbenzie I literally just tested just to be sure I wasn't speaking out of my ass. It instantly went straight from base value 13,83% to 30% EM and 26% Thermal against blood raiders. This is with the 'Sparkly' one. It literally only took 1 hit to my armor to trigger this response. No gradual increase in resistance.
I'm not gunna lie, love your videos. But if u are gunna showcase a drone build, you should have the necessary skills to showcase the build as its entirety. Best of luck. Fly safe 07
@@captainbenzie fair enough, it be nice if u find a couple Screenshots maybe of ppl with skills, decent fittings to give some sort of indicator on what ppl can expect. I like that you recommended long range top weapons, seems most use close range weapons to just get a bigger dps number, even though it's basically wasted in most scenarios. Greetings and keep it up
@@captainbenzie Oh sounded like it because you said that you really enjoy using it. my bad then ^^ but yeah i use it daily and it is pretty good. got 493 dps from drones at 54km range and 91dps from missiles ^^
Encounters Story Missions pay handsomely! If you can get a few corp mates together you can make millions of isk. When I get home I try and do one story mission before bed and the isk piles up ( I figured out a a way to solo)
Right now, PLEX's price on the market is 250k each, which costs only 40 million to get enough plex for a basic omega subscription, 40 million is fairly easy to grind thru actually
The design looks like it's a grown up catalyst that learned to walk.
It's a Minbari (Sharlin) war cruiser stretched out.
Never played Homeworld , eh?
@@captainbenzie HAHAHA 🤣
i have a better perception of a Myrmidon. Both the Drone cruisers at t7, Prophecy and Myrmidon, look like birds.
Prophecy is a turkey
Myrmidon is a Zombie Hen or Woodpecker with both arms stretched out. The Zombie vibes can be felt with the greenish hue of the skin
For PvP, I recommend not grouping your drones. Keeping them separate gives you a better chance of saving them if they get targeted.
My fit is basically: bat, knight (Holy cow the rep per tick is ridiculous), mwd, battery, and a DC. 5x mk7 hammerheads ( atm thermal outperforms others overall dmg wise), 2x webs for those pesky enemies with mwds. A nos in case someone does get in neut range. And flints. For rigs I took 2x tier 2 drone range rig and a t2 drone dmg output rig and 3 cap rigs. 400 drone dps at 63 km range, dc and mwd in case I need to get away fast. Battery in case of emergency and I need to have mwd and rep going while keeping distance. And rails if something slips in 30km range. So far im chilling in t8 stories.
I've heard this elsewhere, why do Hammerheads outperform others damage-wise? I know they face the lowest total resistance across shields and armor, but the difference is small so I wonder if there's some other factor. I heard a rumor that a bug causes them to attack more quickly from several corp mates, but I've never tested or confirmed that.
Also jw why rails instead of strike cannons or long range missiles to get a bit of extra DPS for the 30-50km range?
Benzie. As a heads up. The drone speed augmentor rig is far suprior and a lotcheaper then the drone damage rig. Everyone thinks it increases flight speed. But it actually increases attack speed and thus multiplying with all other forms of %damage already from skills and hull bonus. The damage difference is HUGE. Maybe make a video about this. It will help a lot of people out.
@@captainbenzie on a cruiser it's better dps to put on 2 speed rigs. on a BC the 3e speed rig gives Almost the same bonus as 1 damage rig. But considering the price difference it's not worth spending 6x the price for a couple DPS.
But a lot of people do not know this.
My favorite Gallente Ship in EO. *swoon!
Would like to see a comparison of BCs - harby, prophecy, myrmidon, etc. I've been training into drone skills but no idea how to start fitting the different types.
How come the NPC Myrmadons don't use drones? Did they just never buy any?
Cap could you make a mid range shield tanked budget cyclone fit? I'm buying a rigged one from a friend and want to get a lower prices high damage fit, so I can get good isk\hour running the t7 encounters
Hey how much was the whole fit in isk?
Cool ship, guy in our corp loves his. Personally I'm looking forward to a harbinger video.
Doesn’t the drone fire augmentor only affect sentry drones?
Could you please compare the tanking of the myrm and the prophecy and see who is better?
I second!
@@Ghost40. which would you use for which and why?
is the advance medium drone upgrade skill bonus applies to all sizes of drones or only medium drones?
Do you know when the mordu's legion ships are coming out? I want my battle plate
Astero and Stratios the true Queens of Eve Online, also exploration and wormholes ugggh
@@NoPickles312 we need triglavians too
If numbers for damage types are the same as EO, just go with thermal Hammerhead as the best overall damage type.
Myrmidon VS Prophecy pretty please!
I will build one as soon as I hit 7 next week;) love it!
I am currently running a Navy issue Vexor. So stepping into this bad daddy will be easy. Once I scrounge the isk of course lol
No it won't be that easy :)
Sadly Echoes did NOT do the Myrmidon justice. Running 2 armor Reppers your cap gets drained far too quickly, forcing you to use up one of your slots for a battery. The Prophecy has almost 1000 more cap base and higher recharge as well. In addition it can become cap stable with 1 Repper and each type of armor module, CLOSE to cap stable with an afterburner added onto that as well. In the end there's just no contest and that makes me so sad. I love the look of this ship so much better.
Before investing i had to choose between prophecy and myrm. Sadly, there's really no contest. All my corpies went proph while I was like: eh screw it #gallentefanboy4life
Just looked to Prophecy and it has same 2689 GJ capacitor and same 510.0 sec recharge time. The only noticible difference is armor resist instead of armor repair efficiency.
Please explain? They have the exact same capacitor attributes?
@@alasdairgraham717 exactly
Hi Benzie, I wasn't able to switch out my drones during a pvp engagement in battle unfortunately. Does the same rule apply in noms?
during PVP and your drone got destroyed, the drone bay automatically deployed your reserve drone or manually adding it to launch cube?
No
Loving your videos. Im skilling into Logi Cruisers for first time. Can you do a fitting guide for the Scythe?
two medium reppers is also an alternative method to tank in replace of the low damage boost and maybe the AB for a cap battery
Can the ship solo T10 missions?
Thank u bro I’m skill in all drone base ships I like them. I’m currently in a vexor navy issue. Do u know which frigate is best for drones
Thank u bro I will choose one and skill for it
It's like you know me and exactly what I want. 🤍
Is prophecy gonna have the same low slot ?
At least on the Prophecy, you can barely fit a Large armor rep while using a T2 powergrid rig.
The large is roughly equivalent to 2 medium reps which really helps with slot efficiency.
How much is the T2 power grid rig?
Jason Eyerly They are running about 60mil atm 😅
Question. Prophesy Vs Myrmidon?
Am I missing something? Looking at the skills in game I can only control a max of 4 drones? Please enlighten me 👍
@@captainbenzie level 5 only shows +3, 1 and 2 are +1 then 3 and 4 are showing +2
@@captainbenziethank you, I'm little confused though, it says they don't stack
@@captainbenzie Ah, much appreciated, thought it was only 1 to start, thank you
@@captainbenzie Thanks for looking into it, appreciated, going to start skilling for a drone boat 0/
Those ships are seriously expensive. Like 123Mil-ish, If I grind it would take me at least maybe like 3 months or so to get that.
We have tottaly diferent ship design taste, as I hate how Myrmidon looks :D Even i would prefer armor repair over resistance, i will upgrade my vexor with Prophecy, because I adore its simple design.
Also thanks to your video I realize that armor hardners give only ~20%. I didnt know that there is that diference between ~30% shield resistance.
Could you do one on the ferox.
How do you put the drones in blue? Nice video:3
I am primarily Gallente, but I won’t be using any drone boats until drones are dropped in npc wrecks.
Damage seems rather low ? Or are battlecruisers too small for tier 7's ?
Did you even see the youtube 😂
yeeessssss,i know you choose myrmidon captain,thanks for your support to myrmidon fans
Any chance of getting some videos related to weapons? I realize you have gone over each ship, even ship lines like the Trasher line video. I would like to see something similar for weapon types. For example, if you are all in on cannons here are your best options for ships as you move up the tree. If you are a railgunner here are your options. Hopefully that makes sense. Love the content.
I guess your "Starting out with Cannons" video kinda does that. Nevermind.
OK. I thought I had got over my love of drone ships but I've been flying a dragoon and love echoes drone gameplay. How many months will I need to farm isk to get this bad boy?
about 6 t8 storyline missions, so around 1 month if you're good at pve
One day. for the ship, a few days for the fitting.
I like my brawling myrm. Nos + two reppers allows me to solo t9 anoms.
Please do a video on ferox
Ferox has no any good role
You need to be heavily skilled in med rails to fly a ferox efficiently. :(
Just got a prophecy yesterday, Prophecy is better. You can just run armor rep, 2 of each hardener, drone dmg amplifier, and be cap stable on prophecy without needing Nos. Cannot replicate the same on myrmidon. Plus amarr ships look better!
I'm reaching 563 dps with 63 km range. Also, strike cannons are better with far more range.
Hmm i am doing fine soloing missions.. i don't have cap problems any more.. o.o
I can tank well to i solo tec 9 missions.. i just had help building the domix..
That means more skills to train 🙌
Definitely use a WMD I love my myrmidon doing just over 1000m/s
Oo! Oo! Drone ship!
Why have you done this! I seriously can’t decide between a Myrm or a prophecy :(
Me neither, so I got both!
Let me help you: if you want an overall better ship, get prophecy. If you want to tear off your shirt and shout "FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY" every time you lock in a ship, go myrm.
P. S. : i ran out of shirts yesterday.
I have both. I got the myrm first and rigged it for tank so I can solo pve. I have a bubble boy ratting fleet prophecy with four bats and ab in the lows. No tank all gank.
Can we pre-bid on the ship.... heh
Sell it anyway!
Man, I got so lucky today. Opened two 15 day Myrm gas(or air) skins from daily login box. Now I'm really sailing in style.
Have you actually used a reactive armor hardener? You say it takes just a smudge too long to react, but in fact it reacts instantly as soon as you take any damage to armor. It is not like in EVE Online where it reacted a little every cycle, no this one fully adapts armor resistances after 1 single hit to your armor.
Interesting!
@@captainbenzie I literally just tested just to be sure I wasn't speaking out of my ass. It instantly went straight from base value 13,83% to 30% EM and 26% Thermal against blood raiders. This is with the 'Sparkly' one. It literally only took 1 hit to my armor to trigger this response. No gradual increase in resistance.
Drone Firepower Augmentor only works on sentry drones. Your getting no bonuses by use it.
Harbinger prototype, Prophecy please.
Can it be used in close and personal way of ratting?hehehe
lots of back up i see when making this vid =)
I'm not gunna lie, love your videos. But if u are gunna showcase a drone build, you should have the necessary skills to showcase the build as its entirety. Best of luck. Fly safe 07
@@captainbenzie fair enough, it be nice if u find a couple Screenshots maybe of ppl with skills, decent fittings to give some sort of indicator on what ppl can expect.
I like that you recommended long range top weapons, seems most use close range weapons to just get a bigger dps number, even though it's basically wasted in most scenarios.
Greetings and keep it up
careful guys, their discord is super sensitive ;)
And you too can lose your battlecruiser in the load screen after you press jump. Echos is broken as hell.
i highly doubt you ever used the myrm to do anomalies. you got 0 drone skills by the looks of it.
@@captainbenzie Oh sounded like it because you said that you really enjoy using it. my bad then ^^ but yeah i use it daily and it is pretty good. got 493 dps from drones at 54km range and 91dps from missiles ^^
How do people make enough money to pay for their account with PLEX?
Everything else is a waste of time.
Encounters Story Missions pay handsomely! If you can get a few corp mates together you can make millions of isk. When I get home I try and do one story mission before bed and the isk piles up ( I figured out a a way to solo)
Right now, PLEX's price on the market is 250k each, which costs only 40 million to get enough plex for a basic omega subscription, 40 million is fairly easy to grind thru actually
Get out of high sec 🙄
you speak so fast