I can confirm that Mymn is a really nice guy. I put out a call for help doing a mission and he dropped what he was doing and made the trek over help out.
One of my favorite ratting ships. So insanely strong at 60+ range. It'll spoil you though. Have to remember how to play the game after running this for a few weeks.
To loot effectively, you drop a cargo container about 160 km away from all the wrecks, this let's you warp back and forth and loot stuff really fast and efficiently. A common tip is also to let a single fast ship get close, preferably a harmless one, and use it as a mobile cap battery. In the Friends by Blood the elite battleship also is accompanied by an elite cruiser and an elite prophecy. The elite prophecy likes to mwd at 8 km distance, so it makes an amazing mobile cap battery to fuel those duel armor reps.
I have a prophecy for t9 Anomalies in null and a myrm for the storylines in high sec. I use ab and only have 44km range but I have absolutely no problem soloing any storyline, do t10 easily. I did rather work on dps and tank rather than range and it works great. Thank you again for the vids.
cool video, aiming to get a Prophecy myself at some point, but I must point out you calling the Oracle a battleship while it's in fact a battlecruiser :) keep up the good work man!
Big fan dude. I'd quite like to see some videos/guides on you doing story missions, using various ships. Just an idea. Also, maybe do the same as above, but push the ship to its absolute limit, such as seeing how far a frigate can go on some harder missions. Good job with the content so far.
WoW! That is a beautiful ship! I always liked Amarr designs, but never had the spare time to train into them in EO. EE fixes that. :) Never knew that about the drones though, nice heads up. In EO we draw the agro with our ships, and then we launch the drones. Yes they can be destroyed, but not if you keep agro. EE is not ready for that yet though, the economy cannot support it and you would end up with a massive exodus implementing it this early.
strike cannons without extra modules and rigs only good for up to 36-38km, above that the falloff is a trash, and the high slot is better to be fitted for facing elites that got too close for comfort
Hey Captain, I really love your guides and I wait everyday impatiently for your next video. But now I would like to make a wish myself: Arbitrator, Blackbird/Bellicose or an updated Rupture would ne great. Thanks in advance.
Funny thing is I'm watching this on my pc while I'm half afking fighting a T8 storyline elites using phropercy :) Just a suggestion, rather than two med armor rep, which is prone to defunct if multiple enemy elites have energy neutralizers, better go for two armor hardeners, one medium armor rep, medium cap battery and a 800mm armor plates, stable cap even after fighting two elites with neutralizer. Also, rather than using nosferatu(useless for range build ships, fit all three with stasis webifier, since any weapon that you gonna choose for high slot would greatly benefitted by that. Note: I had tried that fit, but with two medium armor rep drains cap too quickly. Also, for me half afkin the mission, the armor plates is a good measure as your panic ehp saving measures. low armor? activate the cap along with the armor plates, damage immune for your ship for 25 secs. Also against elites where that seems not to have any issue with cap stability and keep pulsing neutralizer at you, better go for cap charge, rather than cap amount.
tbh the only time I need to take control is when there's the wave with elite, and when just facing the last clump of 6 assault battlecruiser(like the oracle)
Got my range up to 78km now on the prophecy. On encounters I just warp in to drone range and focus fire. I don’t even try to move. On missions, I set orbit 1km shy of drone range and orbit anything that comes near me. By the time the final wave has spawned I’m around the 250km limit which allows you to deal with those tough ones easily as they drop agro.
I have already gotten one blown up (warped to the wrong random planet, oops) but love my Prophecy and will be sad when my 15 day Air SKINs are gone it looks great with it.
I fly a Vexor, cleared a T7 elite encounter today in it scoring 5mil isk... The thing is I kinda wish AI would shoot at the drones... Would make it more fun over all, and would reduce the amount I have to tank... Had a T7 elite battlecruiser micro warp drive next to me and nearly blap me with railguns... 3th try was the charm, micro warp driving forward while he remained 20km behind and cannons plus vespas cleared his arse... Was my most exhilarating combat thus far in this game and I loved it!
problem is how fked up netease in giving drone bp. its should be easy to get since drone can be destroyed , but netease make drone bp drop in special anom , which is rare , which is made price broken af , i mean for hammerhead t7 cost 20m almost same price with other weapon faction higher lvl is kind of stupid
@@mastersnu810 yyyeah, that is true, drone BP and Prices are ludicrous. I have tier 5's for now, 5 hammerhead and 5 vespa that is about 15 million right there to be lost in case my ship goes... and with T7 prices.... not looking forward to those. I guess we'll see how they balance it out.
good thing you can got those drone for 15mil , my 5 hammerhead cost like 10-15m each 1month ago , easy way to get isk is join null corp/alliance so you can get rare loot in special anom , or if you solo player , you can try spamming t6 story mission which is considered easy with vexor Spark of Rebel and For Freedom have nice reward , personally ill go witj for freedom cuz you can get adaptive harderner which is worth 10m , and with 20m(tax not included) basically you can get around 30-40m with all loot and bounty
@@mastersnu810 I got my first t6 story mission, and just purchased a Vexor Navy issue this morning for 60 mil, by the afternoon it will be ready (skill training) for the same range as my original Vexor was (46km) and then I'll be probably taking on the task, of soloing the T6 story... or waiting a bit more on that to get a bit more isk before I jump into the task itself. I am taking my time :D no rush here.
@@xXE4GLEyEXx what story misson? , all t6 story have no warp distrub except Patriotism , so warp stab is your friend if you cant finish them elite first use drone range rig II and drone dmg/speed rig II if you cant , just slap 2x drone range I low slot : use 2x DDA , faction is good but mk5 is enuff ab/mwd is a must since ur range still under 50km rep is needed , no exception you can change 1 DDA for armor hardener if you wanna tanky a bit mid use 2x web+1x nos , or 1x web+2x noss for that pesky elite mwd if you need help , you can pm me in gamr via discord @ChocoNut#2244
I got 2 prophecyes... One full tank build... I can solo facetank an entire t7 large ano.. As long as i Target The right Targets.And a story soloing one... Balance fittings for The story one.
FOR THE GOLDEN HORDE... we will miss you. Also I dont know if you will see this but If you are interested I can show you a cap stable no nos larger shield booster prophecy with 39ehp that can face tank t6 dead space. If you do see this please and are curious please let me know
This is a good starting point but sub optimal, with good enough skills and modules you dont need that much range, i've been running T10s the past weeks back to back, and started off with a range rig and currently dont have any. Also for cap you can switch out the NOS for a large cap battery and be much safer without depending on the range of enemies. The troublesome BS on the second wave of third encounter of Friends by Blood does near 0 damage and neuts you to death so basically with a large cap battery, ignore the BS and kill everything else thats near, activate the cap battery to deal with recovering damage from other enemies, when only the BS is around you, focus it and you dont need any tank really for it. Instead of range rigs i now use a tank rig (currently ammount bonus) and a dmg and activation bonus for most dps possible, im now at 540ish dps base on drones cold damage
I agree, the fit is bad. The show case was a mission that any armour tank is perfect against, if this was vs explosive or thermal then i think you would be warping in an out as your tank would break. Like the gentleman mentioned your NOS are redundant, you can replace Group Armour Reps or Webs and WD for elites with MWD or for interceptors. Your WarpCoreStab rigs are also redundant, you should never be in WarpDistruption range and if your going to get gank +2 just isnt high enough. Personally i would drop the highs completely Switch out the mids for Web, Wd and Grouo Rep Lows, 2 DDAs, Faction Large AB, Faction Cap Battery and Faction Medium Rep. RIGs Drone Range, Drone Damage, Drone activation. Vellocity 15% Intertia 25% AB Cap -30% Stats DPS 557 cold SPEED 1280MS RANGE 55KM SOLOs T10 anoms and specials vs Angels which are strong vs armour tanks
@@ScofaUK as clarification i dont think the fit is by no means bad, thats why i meant its a good starting point. But in the long rung its all about that isk/hour :)
A Large Cap battery is a nice thing to have, if you have the engineering skills for it, no doubt about it. The NOS is an alternative and easier way to deal with the BS, since along with the BS there is also an elite prophecy, and since it stays within 8 km you can just NOS it for cap, while dealing with everything else. And yeah, you can go for more of a brawler fit, if you want, but I prefer safety over damage.
And yes, I agree the build is suboptimal, because it doesn't require optimal skills. When you have better skills, there are several different upgrade paths a pilot can take, per the persons preferences.
Tbh my favorite rig you have shown is the Talwar Assault and for big daddy the Hurricane Prototype kite build. I like the Minmater Republic because they are my play style, also I love to kite, though I could do some brawling every once in while
I actually prefer running shields since my skills are maxed on those. When fitted with 3x Drone range T3 rigs it shoots my range out to 92km. Instead of shield hardeners, I actually like 2x Repuplic Fleet Drone dmg as well as 2x Target Painters. I cannot reach with my missiles so I might consider Semi rigs to be able to fit large ones instead of Mediums, but I prefer the Drone Kiting instead.
@@captainbenzie I'm wondering if it's worth the effort to put Semiconductor rigs on or not whether the extra distance of large missiles would pay off with the semi rigs cost and considering my drones make short work of anything, whatever weapon I do use will finish off the job should it get close enough yo be a threat.
hi . Apologies I forgot to ask have you already tried completing a story mission solo while you are still in alpha or omega & using the same ship like the prophecy batttle cruiser & the same strategy positioning the ship 50 km away from the enemy ships & launching your drones to take out the enemy ships that are more of a threat than the others .
@@captainbenzie - i see . One more question how many times does the story mission give you enemy ships to attack I remembered there was 4 but after that I don't know how many more times where left . I know you're very busy but think you can remember & let me know pls
Addendum: Cheapest anti-armor composition is 1x Infiltrator + 4x Vespa. Cheapest anti-shield composition is 4x Infiltrator + 1x Vespa Both of these are only about 1% slower than the optimal composition respectively (1.14% and 1.06% slower respectively, to be exact), but they cost A LOT LESS.
@@yrga7195 Enjoy. Keep in mind that in reality there are differences in speed and tracking also, which is why many prefer compositions with a more Infiltrators and Valkyries, since they are both faster and have better tracking. This estimate only looked at resistances and typical defense ratios.
It is a very relaxing playstyle that lets you make good ISK/hour. There are other playstyles that aims to abuse the 250 km rat leash, using MWD to bring the elite rats out to it, at which point they disengage and slowboat back to center of anomaly. I personally don't like it, since it isn't a playstyle that suits me, but it is a viable tactic. I prefer the more relaxing playstyle.
Great video, could you make one were you showcase how to use one of the faction frigates to do story missions? I recently bought a cruor after watching your video about it and want to start using it for story missions.
Wouldn't it be better to change one of the low slot dmg amps for range amp and one rig for damage? This would pretty much negate a big part of the stacking bonus. Changing one rig for dmg would reduce drone range to around 58-57km, where adding a drone range amp in lowslots would probably increase it past that, and considering you have a rig that increases damage you would have more damage overall as amp's give low dmg but give you a burst where a rig gives consistant damage
Drone Control Range Rigs do not have a stacking penalty, and as far as I know there are no modules to increase drone control range, only drone optimal range which is vastly different. But please, correct me if I am wrong but I am 99% certain no drone control range modules exist, only rigs.
first, as had been stated, there's no drone range rigs penalty applied, so you get the full amount of the bonus from rigs. Second, there's no module that could give extra control range. The one that exist only increase the optimal range, accuracy fall off and tracking speed. So, no. 70+km is the maximum we could got in T7 in this turkey, and there's no penalty applied for that control range, also there's no module to increase our control range.
Face tanking is possible as long as you don't face more that four ships at one time, moreover make sure that four ships isn't all assault Battlecruiser(talos, oracle, naga or tornado)
Hi Captain Benzie. Your fitting is quite underwhelming for me. I've been running the prophecy for a while now. I've also read, tried, and and made my own adjustments on the fittings. Here are some tips and fitting options i have tried and currently utilizing. All of which are IMO better 1. the battery isn't necessary for me. I'm cap stable with 2 rigs of CCC I and a prototype that i've been meaning to replace with a better one. You can trade it with MWD if your going to kite which is what you'r mostly gonna do with a drone boat like the proph anyways. 2. One armor rep is enough but it has to be an expensive one. I have a Knight med rep and i adjust my hardener depending on what pve im gonna do. Against Minsmatar and Caldari I use Adaptive because their dmg is spread on most resistances. Against Ammar and Galente i use Reactive because they only do 2 types of damage anyways. 3. You can get away with 2 drone dmg amps as long as you have 50+ drone control range. If you have good skills maybe with experts maybe you can go for 3 if you have 60+ drone control range. I haven't tried it but im pretty sure it will be much safer because BCs will havr a hard time hitting you but damage is still to be expected. Im sitting at 53km drone control range Bonus tip: When your going to start picking the BCs you will take a lot of damage especially when you get within 40-50km range of them. They are always in groups of 7 or more and they hit real hard. What you want to do is get into drone control range of the closest BC and MWD away while your drones are firing. They wil not leave the target until destroyed and one of my drones always retreat with me when i do this tactic so idk about how you guys do it its kinda of irritating
Oh thats why you mentioned the Friends by Blood. With a Neuting Battleship like that yes. Battery is handy and in fact 2 reps while battery is on vs a ship like that is good option. i thought it was solely for T8 stories.
hi . Question the way you pilot your prophecy battlecruiser do you launch your drones to fight the enemy from 51 km then stop your ships engines & maintain stationary orbit while commanding your drones to do the fighting
@@captainbenzie - I see . But when you launch the drones to attack one enemy ship first . Do you position your prophecy battlecruiser About 51 or 54 km away from the enemy ships while the drones are attacking one of the enemy ships . And doesn't your ship start to slowly drift or move on it's own closer to the enemy ships even though you stopped the engines.
@@danielrobert9346 you're overthinking this, I feel 😉 set default approach to 50km, then approach anything that's getting close. Your drones will do the thing and you'll drift around comfortably killing everything.
@@captainbenzie - I see so it happens with you to . When reach your destination you launch your drones to attack one selected enemy ship while your ship is positioned at 50 km . but the ship still moves slowly towards the enemy ships even though you stopped your engines am I correct
I have pretty much everything drones at 5 and a damage rig 2 and 2 range rig 2. I have 3 low slots for drone dps. Basically it's range tanking though, if I tried to tank I'll die and my guns are useless at this range.
I think this fitting is too specific and not really effective as you need ages to kill anything bigger than a frigate. It also need to be updated according to new rigs prices. MWD is mandatory imo and you may consider reactive + adaptive hardener. 3 middle nos are useless most of the time, at least one web to melt close range fast ships.
Hello captain I have questions i'd like To ask you . 1 - when you are still playing Eve echoes do you get attacked more than once by players that appear out of nowhere during a mission or a job . How do you fight them or deal with them & escape when they have you caught in there warp core disruptors 2 - if you want to fight other players in a pvp battle in eve echoes which ship do you choose & what do you fit it with before going in to battle . I just want to know what are your thoughts . So i'll know to do .
PvP is a very personal thing depending on what you're flying. You can't change what you're flying when you're out, so it's about choosing a ship you enjoy and then learning it, learning what it can fight, and how. As for surviving PvP in a PvE ship, watch local and play frosty. Warp out if you have any worries
@@captainbenzie managed to get 961DPS hot,, 761 if using 3 Damage amps cycling 1 after the other for a perfect timing so there is always one active.. Being at range can be a bit boring though lol.
I see . Forgive me I have One more question how many times does the story mission give you enemy ships to attack I remembered there was 4 but after that I don't know how many more times where left . I know you're very busy but think you can remember & let me know pls
I think a better method of drone combat is to have them have a small signature, hard to track, move fast and deplete their own capacitor, so they have to return to your ship to recharge before being deployed again. This allows them to be attacked in combat, but at what cost, given the difficulty of tracking, targeting and hitting them. Just a thought. The recharge means they can't be out during an entire fight, they need to be managed, like modules on your ship that use capacitor.
i used that same build at first but now i swap the extra rep for an AB and one nos for a web and cap for the extra dps mods wich u time on his plate get in his face 1v1 web roll him and back to cake after the other eltes
i know the second rep is amazing but i know its not a speed tank but it makes a big difference in damage taken ohh and the key strat. u keep one of the friggates alive at 8km and nos him for unlimited cap for every wave
I see . Last question What does insufficient tech level . Cause you see I was trying to equip the prophecy battle cruiser with mk 9 valkyrie drones but it's not being accepted on the ship . Can you pls let me know what are your thoughts .
@@captainbenzie - hi . How are you today . Listen I know you're very busy but what's the name of the station Where the plex is being sold on the market
@@danielrobert9346 in Echoes it doesn't matter. You can sell and buy PLEX from anywhere. It all comes from one station but can be accessed from anywhere - the cost will be the same wherever.
I think this is cautious and yet not. Don't see the need for 2 armour repairers, fit an MWD it's not like they miss hitting you anyway. I use cannons with my prophecy as you get a little more range, you get the occasional hit at 50km which is better than nothing as I used to use missiles. Not having webs on this should be a criminal offence. Like the reactive armour idea though as I'm just using plates for that flat armour increase
@@captainbenzie Mate it's a great build regardless, I would definitely swap one repairer for an mwd as you're gonna keep a massive range and it will then help after when you've got to collect loot. Plus this build is great if it's story only. On anomalies I would much rather a web and possibly even a neutraliser incase a pirate wants to try his luck. Great content bro, big fan.
Watching this video made me uneasy seeing that large red shield bar... Now I have a PVP question. Could a fleet of 5 Frigs (2 slasher2, and 3 condor2) take down this golden turkey.
@@captainbenzie I would say no. Frigates needs to fly "up close and personal" and as a prophecy pilot I can keep returning my drones and resend them every 15 sec or so making those frigates life a living hell xD and let's not forget high slots that can almost 1 shot a frigate.
Videos im watching a year later the first time i tried doing this storyline mission they made a fleet and kept me away from low sec so i couldnt finish it .. game is really starting to show the players are bored
I can see the appeal of being able to solo T8-10s but god they are slooooooow... I would seriously be tempted to pop a mwd on there even if its just to collect loot with. Sitting at 60+k there are not that many rats that can reach you.
That is true. For looting I just drop a cargo container at a good distance so I can warp back and forth. This is also a useful thing to have if you need to reposition your ship.
He was talking about the Elite Battleship in Friends by Blood that has a mwd, neut and nos. It is not a major threat, there are various ways to deal with it such as abusing the 250km leash or using triple nos on the elite Prophecy to maintain cap stability. He doesn't write a script when he makes these videos so sometimes he makes minor mistakes.
I promise im not beating you up. I thoroughly enjoy the content that all the echoes youtubers provide. But every drone boat build from all the creators going back to VNI and 2 different prophecy styles, seriously hurt me as a drone boat theorycrafter. How do i send you my ship, i am literally begging, how do i send you my ship
I recommend going to his discord (link is in description) and talk to him. This build was my first iteration of the Prophecy, and I acknowledge it is not an optimized build, but it is VERY safe for new pilots to dip their toes and earn good ISK/h. As their skills increase and they become better pilots, they can experiment with MWD, etc. But my first intention behind this build was to have a 100% safe ISK earning ship that can be done a bit AFKish. Because having a reliable way to make ISK is nice :)
@@captainbenzie - what I mean is when your piloting the prophecy battlecruiser on a mission what are the battle setting like on your side in the settings section in eve echoes
Not a good fit, should run a large nos on a PVE prophecy, you (or whoever fitted this) has dropped the ball a bit here. Shame, a lot of your fits are usually OK.
That is a possiblity and something I could recommend, assuming the person who runs the ship has the engineering skills for it. 3x medium Vryk Nos yields about 44,4 GJ/s, so that is nice assuming the enemy ship gets to about 8 km range (which during Friends by Blood the Elite Prosphecy does). A single large Vryk Nos yields 23 GJ/s, at a far greater range, so that is nice upgrade path, once you have the powergrid for it. There are several different paths that you can run the Prophecy, depending on what your preferences are. More damage, more cap, etc., etc.
Maller II aka a devoter just call it what it is and has been for nearly 20 years. Idc what "eve echoes" calls their ships. That ship will always be a devoter in my head srry.
@@captainbenzie For sure , I play it for just that simple fact. These days time is limited and its nice being able to mess around on the phone here and there vs hours in front of my pc. Although time to time I still do that too :) You can't quit Eve, it quits you!
This is the issue which i was debating on the fb eve echoes group. If they are nerfing missiles, what about drones ?? 70 km+ range for drones and if you can pair them with long range missiles, they are literally unstoappable. Drones do need to be balanced as well with rapid missles.
@@queeffersthrlnd1620 People would still bitch because there are different ships too ;) Everything needs to be the same or people will argue that X or Y is OP
It’s kind of a unbalanced affair at the moment. Mk drones are insanely powerful in PvE and no1 priority in PvP. They are also insanely cheap compared to the faction weapons of similar DPS value. Yes they should be able to be shot down in PvE, my reasoning and as you just showcased, 0 risk, $$$ ISK.
When It comes for you, you'll hear the Golden space turkey Chuckling its way towards you.
I can confirm that Mymn is a really nice guy. I put out a call for help doing a mission and he dropped what he was doing and made the trek over help out.
One of my favorite ratting ships. So insanely strong at 60+ range.
It'll spoil you though. Have to remember how to play the game after running this for a few weeks.
lol so true. every once in a while i'll jump into my omen and do some pvp just to make sure i keep my discipline
It's made for Sme tho, not ratting. Just cuzz it can solo and give huge payout for T10 ones. Ratting gonna get u killed boi
You're not alone, someone once fit one of my ships with a small armor repairer.
To loot effectively, you drop a cargo container about 160 km away from all the wrecks, this let's you warp back and forth and loot stuff really fast and efficiently.
A common tip is also to let a single fast ship get close, preferably a harmless one, and use it as a mobile cap battery. In the Friends by Blood the elite battleship also is accompanied by an elite cruiser and an elite prophecy. The elite prophecy likes to mwd at 8 km distance, so it makes an amazing mobile cap battery to fuel those duel armor reps.
This is actually a pretty good idea
Might have to use that idea with my ferox. Even though I have a mwd... looting can still be a chore....
I have a prophecy for t9 Anomalies in null and a myrm for the storylines in high sec. I use ab and only have 44km range but I have absolutely no problem soloing any storyline, do t10 easily. I did rather work on dps and tank rather than range and it works great.
Thank you again for the vids.
Whats your fit for dps/tank thanks
I love my prophecy. I will be flying it for the foreseeable. And I love turkey
If you use hob goblins which use thermal you'll have turkey and cranberry.
cool video, aiming to get a Prophecy myself at some point, but I must point out you calling the Oracle a battleship while it's in fact a battlecruiser :) keep up the good work man!
"Golden Turkey" Ive been calling the Prophesy that since I first saw it in Eve Online (PC) about 3 years ago. So yay!! More for the golden turkey!
Holly hel 😂
Its more of a hawk if u look at its head. Turkey heads look nothing like this
The prophecy i see them in my nightmares.
Ace video Benzie... Looking forward to your view on the Ferox...
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Big fan dude. I'd quite like to see some videos/guides on you doing story missions, using various ships. Just an idea. Also, maybe do the same as above, but push the ship to its absolute limit, such as seeing how far a frigate can go on some harder missions. Good job with the content so far.
Thanks again my captain, you're my only source for Eve Echoes help.
WoW! That is a beautiful ship! I always liked Amarr designs, but never had the spare time to train into them in EO. EE fixes that. :) Never knew that about the drones though, nice heads up. In EO we draw the agro with our ships, and then we launch the drones. Yes they can be destroyed, but not if you keep agro. EE is not ready for that yet though, the economy cannot support it and you would end up with a massive exodus implementing it this early.
Why don't I see anyone build these with Cannons? Long range, long accuracy drop off.. actual helpful dps at range!
If elites get close you won't be able to do much damage to them constantly.
@@sfxs9090 on the odd occasion that an elite gets close, there is a swarm of drones chasing!
strike cannons without extra modules and rigs only good for up to 36-38km, above that the falloff is a trash, and the high slot is better to be fitted for facing elites that got too close for comfort
Hey Captain, I really love your guides and I wait everyday impatiently for your next video.
But now I would like to make a wish myself: Arbitrator, Blackbird/Bellicose or an updated Rupture would ne great. Thanks in advance.
I think those videos will come when we have E-War modules, since those ships are made to take advantage of those modules.
I just gonna buy my prophecy tomorrow and go to make a tons of missions.
Funny thing is I'm watching this on my pc while I'm half afking fighting a T8 storyline elites using phropercy :)
Just a suggestion, rather than two med armor rep, which is prone to defunct if multiple enemy elites have energy neutralizers, better go for two armor hardeners, one medium armor rep, medium cap battery and a 800mm armor plates, stable cap even after fighting two elites with neutralizer. Also, rather than using nosferatu(useless for range build ships, fit all three with stasis webifier, since any weapon that you gonna choose for high slot would greatly benefitted by that. Note: I had tried that fit, but with two medium armor rep drains cap too quickly. Also, for me half afkin the mission, the armor plates is a good measure as your panic ehp saving measures. low armor? activate the cap along with the armor plates, damage immune for your ship for 25 secs. Also against elites where that seems not to have any issue with cap stability and keep pulsing neutralizer at you, better go for cap charge, rather than cap amount.
tbh the only time I need to take control is when there's the wave with elite, and when just facing the last clump of 6 assault battlecruiser(like the oracle)
Just in time for Thanksgiving! ;)
Your vids are great, and have been a huge help. Keep up the great work and thank you!
Got my range up to 78km now on the prophecy. On encounters I just warp in to drone range and focus fire. I don’t even try to move. On missions, I set orbit 1km shy of drone range and orbit anything that comes near me. By the time the final wave has spawned I’m around the 250km limit which allows you to deal with those tough ones easily as they drop agro.
I have already gotten one blown up (warped to the wrong random planet, oops) but love my Prophecy and will be sad when my 15 day Air SKINs are gone it looks great with it.
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Really enjoyed that. Thanks cap'n. Amarr ships are like your low-key bae, I take it? 😉
I personally keep 1 enemy frig alive for me to succ on. Unli cap is life. Takes me an hour to finish this, no warp outs.
I fly a Vexor, cleared a T7 elite encounter today in it scoring 5mil isk... The thing is I kinda wish AI would shoot at the drones... Would make it more fun over all, and would reduce the amount I have to tank... Had a T7 elite battlecruiser micro warp drive next to me and nearly blap me with railguns... 3th try was the charm, micro warp driving forward while he remained 20km behind and cannons plus vespas cleared his arse... Was my most exhilarating combat thus far in this game and I loved it!
problem is how fked up netease in giving drone bp.
its should be easy to get since drone can be destroyed , but netease make drone bp drop in special anom , which is rare , which is made price broken af , i mean for hammerhead t7 cost 20m almost same price with other weapon faction higher lvl is kind of stupid
@@mastersnu810 yyyeah, that is true, drone BP and Prices are ludicrous. I have tier 5's for now, 5 hammerhead and 5 vespa that is about 15 million right there to be lost in case my ship goes... and with T7 prices.... not looking forward to those. I guess we'll see how they balance it out.
good thing you can got those drone for 15mil , my 5 hammerhead cost like 10-15m each 1month ago , easy way to get isk is join null corp/alliance so you can get rare loot in special anom , or if you solo player , you can try spamming t6 story mission which is considered easy with vexor
Spark of Rebel and For Freedom have nice reward , personally ill go witj for freedom cuz you can get adaptive harderner which is worth 10m , and with 20m(tax not included) basically you can get around 30-40m with all loot and bounty
@@mastersnu810 I got my first t6 story mission, and just purchased a Vexor Navy issue this morning for 60 mil, by the afternoon it will be ready (skill training) for the same range as my original Vexor was (46km) and then I'll be probably taking on the task, of soloing the T6 story... or waiting a bit more on that to get a bit more isk before I jump into the task itself. I am taking my time :D no rush here.
@@xXE4GLEyEXx what story misson? , all t6 story have no warp distrub except Patriotism , so warp stab is your friend if you cant finish them elite first
use drone range rig II and drone dmg/speed rig II
if you cant , just slap 2x drone range I
low slot :
use 2x DDA , faction is good but mk5 is enuff
ab/mwd is a must since ur range still under 50km
rep is needed , no exception
you can change 1 DDA for armor hardener if you wanna tanky a bit
mid use 2x web+1x nos , or 1x web+2x noss for that pesky elite mwd
if you need help , you can pm me in gamr via discord @ChocoNut#2244
I got 2 prophecyes... One full tank build... I can solo facetank an entire t7 large ano.. As long as i Target The right Targets.And a story soloing one... Balance fittings for The story one.
Yep this golden turkey is super strong already did about 4 t10s missions already I'm slowly building towards that Gila 😋😋
Dude I got one I love it ..its like a bs without the big ship part
@@RetreatHellgaming ohhh noice
FOR THE GOLDEN HORDE... we will miss you. Also I dont know if you will see this but If you are interested I can show you a cap stable no nos larger shield booster prophecy with 39ehp that can face tank t6 dead space. If you do see this please and are curious please let me know
I just realized I found a cat skull in the woods near my elementary school, could have been a bunny skull that I found though!
It would be nice to share the total cost of the ship..
This is a good starting point but sub optimal, with good enough skills and modules you dont need that much range, i've been running T10s the past weeks back to back, and started off with a range rig and currently dont have any. Also for cap you can switch out the NOS for a large cap battery and be much safer without depending on the range of enemies. The troublesome BS on the second wave of third encounter of Friends by Blood does near 0 damage and neuts you to death so basically with a large cap battery, ignore the BS and kill everything else thats near, activate the cap battery to deal with recovering damage from other enemies, when only the BS is around you, focus it and you dont need any tank really for it.
Instead of range rigs i now use a tank rig (currently ammount bonus) and a dmg and activation bonus for most dps possible, im now at 540ish dps base on drones cold damage
I agree, the fit is bad. The show case was a mission that any armour tank is perfect against, if this was vs explosive or thermal then i think you would be warping in an out as your tank would break.
Like the gentleman mentioned your NOS are redundant, you can replace Group Armour Reps or Webs and WD for elites with MWD or for interceptors.
Your WarpCoreStab rigs are also redundant, you should never be in WarpDistruption range and if your going to get gank +2 just isnt high enough.
Personally i would drop the highs completely
Switch out the mids for Web, Wd and Grouo Rep
Lows, 2 DDAs, Faction Large AB, Faction Cap Battery and Faction Medium Rep.
RIGs Drone Range, Drone Damage, Drone activation.
Vellocity 15% Intertia 25% AB Cap -30%
Stats
DPS 557 cold
SPEED 1280MS
RANGE 55KM
SOLOs T10 anoms and specials vs Angels which are strong vs armour tanks
@@ScofaUK as clarification i dont think the fit is by no means bad, thats why i meant its a good starting point. But in the long rung its all about that isk/hour :)
@@captainbenzie The fit is bad and i explained why, that is constructive. Sorry
A Large Cap battery is a nice thing to have, if you have the engineering skills for it, no doubt about it. The NOS is an alternative and easier way to deal with the BS, since along with the BS there is also an elite prophecy, and since it stays within 8 km you can just NOS it for cap, while dealing with everything else. And yeah, you can go for more of a brawler fit, if you want, but I prefer safety over damage.
And yes, I agree the build is suboptimal, because it doesn't require optimal skills. When you have better skills, there are several different upgrade paths a pilot can take, per the persons preferences.
That thing was literally design after a Turkey, very nive video as always. 😝😝😝
Tbh my favorite rig you have shown is the Talwar Assault and for big daddy the Hurricane Prototype kite build. I like the Minmater Republic because they are my play style, also I love to kite, though I could do some brawling every once in while
Would like to see one on the Ferox
lol 😆 keep that space turkey in high sec or itll be thanksgiving 🤣
Awesome vids. Thanks.
I'd love to see a how to for the stork. I've not found anything but live battle footage.
Thanks a bunch.
It looks like a romulan dderidex, only they bothered paying for the middle bit.
I actually prefer running shields since my skills are maxed on those. When fitted with 3x Drone range T3 rigs it shoots my range out to 92km. Instead of shield hardeners, I actually like 2x Repuplic Fleet Drone dmg as well as 2x Target Painters. I cannot reach with my missiles so I might consider Semi rigs to be able to fit large ones instead of Mediums, but I prefer the Drone Kiting instead.
@@captainbenzie I'm wondering if it's worth the effort to put Semiconductor rigs on or not whether the extra distance of large missiles would pay off with the semi rigs cost and considering my drones make short work of anything, whatever weapon I do use will finish off the job should it get close enough yo be a threat.
I can't wait to try this ship, i started early with drone skills so i'm 5/5/0 across the board.
hi . Apologies I forgot to ask have you already tried completing a story mission solo while you are still in alpha or omega & using the same ship like the prophecy batttle cruiser & the same strategy positioning the ship 50 km away from the enemy ships & launching your drones to take out the enemy ships that are more of a threat than the others .
It can be done you just need to know which ships to go after and be prepared to warp out if you spot folks in Local as they may be hunting you.
@@captainbenzie - i see . One more question how many times does the story mission give you enemy ships to attack I remembered there was 4 but after that I don't know how many more times where left . I know you're very busy but think you can remember & let me know pls
Btw a quick back-of-the-envelope estimate of optimal drone compositions against various faction ships (this is assuming they are running naked, however, but even if they are running hardeners, plates or shield extenders, it should make less than 1% difference in terms of composition efficiency).
The difference between various viable drone compositions is very small, unless you are running something crazy like infiltrators against armor tanks. Just be sensible and it should be pretty good.
Against Amarr:
. . . 4x Hammerhead, 1x Vespa
. . . 5x Hammerhead
. . . 4x Hammerhead, 1x Valkyrie
. . . 3x Hammerhead, 2x Vespa
. . . 3x Hammerhead, 1x Vespa, 1x Valkyrie
Against Gallente:
. . . 2x Infiltrator, 3x Valkyrie
. . . 2x Infiltrator, 1x Hammerhead, 2x Valkyrie
. . . 1x Infiltrator, 2x Hammerhead, 2x Valkyrie
. . . 3x Infiltrator, 2x Valkyrie
. . . 3x Hammerhead, 2x Valkyrie
Against Caldari:
. . . 3x Infiltrator, 2x Valkyrie
. . . 4x Infiltrator, 1x Valkyrie
. . . 3x Infiltrator, 1x Vespa, 1x Valkyrie
. . . 3x Infiltrator, 1x Hammerhead, 1x Valkyrie
. . . 4x Infiltrator, 1x Vespa
Against Minmatar:
. . . 5x Hammerhead
. . . 4x Hammerhead, 1x Valkyrie
. . . 4x Hammerhead, 1x Vespa
. . . 1x Infiltrator, 3x Hammerhead, 1x Valkyrie
. . . 3x Hammerhead, 2x Valkyrie
Addendum:
Cheapest anti-armor composition is 1x Infiltrator + 4x Vespa.
Cheapest anti-shield composition is 4x Infiltrator + 1x Vespa
Both of these are only about 1% slower than the optimal composition respectively (1.14% and 1.06% slower respectively, to be exact), but they cost A LOT LESS.
Nice. I need this.
@@yrga7195 Enjoy. Keep in mind that in reality there are differences in speed and tracking also, which is why many prefer compositions with a more Infiltrators and Valkyries, since they are both faster and have better tracking. This estimate only looked at resistances and typical defense ratios.
@@DeNorali I haven't tried each composition. i just went for the least expensive setup which is 3valks and 3infils... swap depending on rats.
when i get more slush funds i'll try the vespas setup
Looks more like a flying puffin
Interesting ship, still not getting a drone ship with them expensive drones and skills
People can't jump on you during story missions?
this is my sister's dream ship
Nobody has ever commented that PVE stands for "player vs. environment?"
@@captainbenzie I take it back...it does seem to be used in chess. :)
Player vs entity too
Excellent cptn....you ole closet ammarian you....cptn gaz.n b stripey chuck.👍🏼
Yay now I can be lazy in a golden space turkey
Frying Turkey - because lasers
It is a very relaxing playstyle that lets you make good ISK/hour. There are other playstyles that aims to abuse the 250 km rat leash, using MWD to bring the elite rats out to it, at which point they disengage and slowboat back to center of anomaly.
I personally don't like it, since it isn't a playstyle that suits me, but it is a viable tactic. I prefer the more relaxing playstyle.
Great video, could you make one were you showcase how to use one of the faction frigates to do story missions? I recently bought a cruor after watching your video about it and want to start using it for story missions.
A flying space turkey! LMAO!!
Wouldn't it be better to change one of the low slot dmg amps for range amp and one rig for damage? This would pretty much negate a big part of the stacking bonus. Changing one rig for dmg would reduce drone range to around 58-57km, where adding a drone range amp in lowslots would probably increase it past that, and considering you have a rig that increases damage you would have more damage overall as amp's give low dmg but give you a burst where a rig gives consistant damage
Drone Control Range Rigs do not have a stacking penalty, and as far as I know there are no modules to increase drone control range, only drone optimal range which is vastly different.
But please, correct me if I am wrong but I am 99% certain no drone control range modules exist, only rigs.
first, as had been stated, there's no drone range rigs penalty applied, so you get the full amount of the bonus from rigs. Second, there's no module that could give extra control range. The one that exist only increase the optimal range, accuracy fall off and tracking speed. So, no. 70+km is the maximum we could got in T7 in this turkey, and there's no penalty applied for that control range, also there's no module to increase our control range.
I like my space turkey, is it possible to do a face tank build? Or is that solely for Myrms?
Face tanking is possible as long as you don't face more that four ships at one time, moreover make sure that four ships isn't all assault Battlecruiser(talos, oracle, naga or tornado)
Hi Captain Benzie. Your fitting is quite underwhelming for me. I've been running the prophecy for a while now. I've also read, tried, and and made my own adjustments on the fittings. Here are some tips and fitting options i have tried and currently utilizing. All of which are IMO better
1. the battery isn't necessary for me. I'm cap stable with 2 rigs of CCC I and a prototype that i've been meaning to replace with a better one. You can trade it with MWD if your going to kite which is what you'r mostly gonna do with a drone boat like the proph anyways.
2. One armor rep is enough but it has to be an expensive one. I have a Knight med rep and i adjust my hardener depending on what pve im gonna do. Against Minsmatar and Caldari I use Adaptive because their dmg is spread on most resistances. Against Ammar and Galente i use Reactive because they only do 2 types of damage anyways.
3. You can get away with 2 drone dmg amps as long as you have 50+ drone control range. If you have good skills maybe with experts maybe you can go for 3 if you have 60+ drone control range. I haven't tried it but im pretty sure it will be much safer because BCs will havr a hard time hitting you but damage is still to be expected. Im sitting at 53km drone control range
Bonus tip: When your going to start picking the BCs you will take a lot of damage especially when you get within 40-50km range of them. They are always in groups of 7 or more and they hit real hard.
What you want to do is get into drone control range of the closest BC and MWD away while your drones are firing. They wil not leave the target until destroyed and one of my drones always retreat with me when i do this tactic so idk about how you guys do it its kinda of irritating
Oh thats why you mentioned the Friends by Blood. With a Neuting Battleship like that yes. Battery is handy and in fact 2 reps while battery is on vs a ship like that is good option. i thought it was solely for T8 stories.
Btw loved the new title backgrounds.
space chicken superiority lol
🚀😎
hi . Question the way you pilot your prophecy battlecruiser do you launch your drones to fight the enemy from 51 km then stop your ships engines & maintain stationary orbit while commanding your drones to do the fighting
The drones do most of the damage. I tend to use "Approach" with a long distance set so if they approach close I pull back.
@@captainbenzie - I see . But when you launch the drones to attack one enemy ship first . Do you position your prophecy battlecruiser
About 51 or 54 km away from the enemy ships while the drones are attacking one of the enemy ships . And doesn't your ship start to slowly drift or move on it's own closer to the enemy ships even though you stopped the engines.
@@danielrobert9346 you're overthinking this, I feel 😉 set default approach to 50km, then approach anything that's getting close. Your drones will do the thing and you'll drift around comfortably killing everything.
@@captainbenzie - I see so it happens with you to . When reach your destination you launch your drones to attack one selected enemy ship while your ship is positioned at 50 km . but the ship still moves slowly towards the enemy ships even though you stopped your engines am I correct
@@danielrobert9346 that means you've got something like auto-orbit active.
I easily get 900 drone dps with this ship. Having the skills makes a big difference.
Rigs and skills?
I have pretty much everything drones at 5 and a damage rig 2 and 2 range rig 2. I have 3 low slots for drone dps. Basically it's range tanking though, if I tried to tank I'll die and my guns are useless at this range.
@@captainbenzie Definitely, I was just saying that skills will increase damage a lot.
My range is 78km with a cold dps of 507. Hot 1032. Skills 5/5/4 5/5/3 5/5/3, x3 range rigs
One thing i do is carry stuff like Mwd in inv which i know will be needed to loot quick. Try that Cap
I think this fitting is too specific and not really effective as you need ages to kill anything bigger than a frigate. It also need to be updated according to new rigs prices. MWD is mandatory imo and you may consider reactive + adaptive hardener. 3 middle nos are useless most of the time, at least one web to melt close range fast ships.
Well i love Caldari because they fit to ze germans but i have to admit the Prophecy is one of my favourite ships.
Hello captain
I have questions i'd like
To ask you .
1 - when you are still playing
Eve echoes do you get attacked more than once by players that appear out of nowhere during a mission or a job . How do you fight them or deal with them & escape when they have you caught in there warp core disruptors
2 - if you want to fight other players in a pvp battle in eve echoes which ship do you choose & what do you fit it with before going in to battle .
I just want to know what are your thoughts . So i'll know to do .
PvP is a very personal thing depending on what you're flying. You can't change what you're flying when you're out, so it's about choosing a ship you enjoy and then learning it, learning what it can fight, and how. As for surviving PvP in a PvE ship, watch local and play frosty. Warp out if you have any worries
@@captainbenzie I see . Okay thanks
Idk how you arrived at space turkey as the ship looks like the eve version of an eagle.
i just started using the ship,, i get 750DPS with drones with 2x Drone damage amps.
@@captainbenzie managed to get 961DPS hot,, 761 if using 3 Damage amps cycling 1 after the other for a perfect timing so there is always one active.. Being at range can be a bit boring though lol.
I see . Forgive me I have One more question how many times does the story mission give you enemy ships to attack I remembered there was 4 but after that I don't know how many more times where left . I know you're very busy but think you can remember & let me know pls
It depends on the different story missions. I don't know them all offhand, sorry!
As a purist shield tanker I already get sweaty just watching that outer ring always being red. Horrible
Replace your drone amp with a mwd
I think a better method of drone combat is to have them have a small signature, hard to track, move fast and deplete their own capacitor, so they have to return to your ship to recharge before being deployed again. This allows them to be attacked in combat, but at what cost, given the difficulty of tracking, targeting and hitting them. Just a thought. The recharge means they can't be out during an entire fight, they need to be managed, like modules on your ship that use capacitor.
Yes. Just like aircrafts from an aircraft carrier. Speaking of which, I wonder when they will add them to the game.
Why didn't you switch target to whatever not using extender every time Oracle did it?
i used that same build at first but now i swap the extra rep for an AB and one nos for a web and cap for the extra dps mods wich u time on his plate get in his face 1v1 web roll him and back to cake after the other eltes
i know the second rep is amazing but i know its not a speed tank but it makes a big difference in damage taken ohh and the key strat. u keep one of the friggates alive at 8km and nos him for unlimited cap for every wave
When the golden turkey sits around the station, its sits AROUND the station lmao (fat joke)
I see .
Last question
What does insufficient tech level . Cause you see I was trying to equip the prophecy battle cruiser with mk 9 valkyrie drones but it's not being accepted on the ship . Can you pls let me know what are your thoughts .
It says in game. You need to be T9 to use Mk9 gear
@@captainbenzie - i see i guessed as much . Thank you captain
What about the ferox? Big fat shield tank or rail guns?
Thats a romulan warship from star trek
Prophecy thicc
By the way
Is there a station
You know in eve echoes
Where the plex in the market
Isn't very expensive
All PLEX in EVE Echoes is bought and sold at the same station
@@captainbenzie - hi . How are you today . Listen I know you're very busy but what's the name of the station
Where the plex is being sold on the market
@@danielrobert9346 in Echoes it doesn't matter. You can sell and buy PLEX from anywhere. It all comes from one station but can be accessed from anywhere - the cost will be the same wherever.
@@captainbenzie - oh I see . That's good for thought Thank you again captain benzie . 👍
I think this is cautious and yet not. Don't see the need for 2 armour repairers, fit an MWD it's not like they miss hitting you anyway. I use cannons with my prophecy as you get a little more range, you get the occasional hit at 50km which is better than nothing as I used to use missiles.
Not having webs on this should be a criminal offence. Like the reactive armour idea though as I'm just using plates for that flat armour increase
@@captainbenzie Mate it's a great build regardless, I would definitely swap one repairer for an mwd as you're gonna keep a massive range and it will then help after when you've got to collect loot.
Plus this build is great if it's story only. On anomalies I would much rather a web and possibly even a neutraliser incase a pirate wants to try his luck.
Great content bro, big fan.
Watching this video made me uneasy seeing that large red shield bar...
Now I have a PVP question. Could a fleet of 5 Frigs (2 slasher2, and 3 condor2) take down this golden turkey.
@@captainbenzie could you please do a video on pvp techniques?
@@captainbenzie I would say no. Frigates needs to fly "up close and personal" and as a prophecy pilot I can keep returning my drones and resend them every 15 sec or so making those frigates life a living hell xD and let's not forget high slots that can almost 1 shot a frigate.
Do drones have a falloff like other weapons?
Love u so much
It honestly needs another low slot
The phrase "cant be ganked in story missions" didnt age well..
which is better myrmidon or the prophecy?
Videos im watching a year later the first time i tried doing this storyline mission they made a fleet and kept me away from low sec so i couldnt finish it .. game is really starting to show the players are bored
@@captainbenzie ok
Haha drones go zoooom
I call it the buffalo BC.
I can see the appeal of being able to solo T8-10s but god they are slooooooow... I would seriously be tempted to pop a mwd on there even if its just to collect loot with. Sitting at 60+k there are not that many rats that can reach you.
That is true. For looting I just drop a cargo container at a good distance so I can warp back and forth. This is also a useful thing to have if you need to reposition your ship.
Strongest pve ship @ T7
whoever watch this at 2021, please put 1 mwd for escaping the elites
Uhh Devine Redemption doesn't have battleships at 9:56 you said "Elite Battleship" XD
He was talking about the Elite Battleship in Friends by Blood that has a mwd, neut and nos. It is not a major threat, there are various ways to deal with it such as abusing the 250km leash or using triple nos on the elite Prophecy to maintain cap stability.
He doesn't write a script when he makes these videos so sometimes he makes minor mistakes.
Does this fit still work?
@@captainbenzie awesome thanks :)
@@captainbenzie Does it still work for missions too? About to buy one
I promise im not beating you up. I thoroughly enjoy the content that all the echoes youtubers provide. But every drone boat build from all the creators going back to VNI and 2 different prophecy styles, seriously hurt me as a drone boat theorycrafter.
How do i send you my ship, i am literally begging, how do i send you my ship
I recommend going to his discord (link is in description) and talk to him. This build was my first iteration of the Prophecy, and I acknowledge it is not an optimized build, but it is VERY safe for new pilots to dip their toes and earn good ISK/h. As their skills increase and they become better pilots, they can experiment with MWD, etc. But my first intention behind this build was to have a 100% safe ISK earning ship that can be done a bit AFKish. Because having a reliable way to make ISK is nice :)
Hello
Captain benzie
There's something I'd like
To ask you if you're not very busy .
Ask away
@@captainbenzie - what's your battle settings like on your side in eve echoes .
@@danielrobert9346 I don't understand what you mean
@@captainbenzie - what I mean is when your piloting the prophecy battlecruiser on a mission what are the battle setting like on your side in the settings section in eve echoes
@@danielrobert9346 autolock is off, auto-orbit is off
Not a good fit, should run a large nos on a PVE prophecy, you (or whoever fitted this) has dropped the ball a bit here. Shame, a lot of your fits are usually OK.
That is a possiblity and something I could recommend, assuming the person who runs the ship has the engineering skills for it.
3x medium Vryk Nos yields about 44,4 GJ/s, so that is nice assuming the enemy ship gets to about 8 km range (which during Friends by Blood the Elite Prosphecy does). A single large Vryk Nos yields 23 GJ/s, at a far greater range, so that is nice upgrade path, once you have the powergrid for it.
There are several different paths that you can run the Prophecy, depending on what your preferences are. More damage, more cap, etc., etc.
Maller II aka a devoter just call it what it is and has been for nearly 20 years. Idc what "eve echoes" calls their ships. That ship will always be a devoter in my head srry.
@@captainbenzie For sure , I play it for just that simple fact. These days time is limited and its nice being able to mess around on the phone here and there vs hours in front of my pc. Although time to time I still do that too :) You can't quit Eve, it quits you!
This is the issue which i was debating on the fb eve echoes group. If they are nerfing missiles, what about drones ?? 70 km+ range for drones and if you can pair them with long range missiles, they are literally unstoappable. Drones do need to be balanced as well with rapid missles.
Drones need a gigantic amount of skill investment. In that way it is balanced
Cannons can hit even further out. Etc. Range tanking has always been a viable tactic in Eve. Drones have downsides to them too.
how about just have one weapon type so there is no room for bitches to complain?
@@queeffersthrlnd1620 People would still bitch because there are different ships too ;) Everything needs to be the same or people will argue that X or Y is OP
Soy latino y tengo un mejor fiteo que eso
It’s kind of a unbalanced affair at the moment. Mk drones are insanely powerful in PvE and no1 priority in PvP. They are also insanely cheap compared to the faction weapons of similar DPS value. Yes they should be able to be shot down in PvE, my reasoning and as you just showcased, 0 risk, $$$ ISK.
Looks buzzard like to me
wtf is echoes
@@captainbenzie ya been away for 6 years just got back on the main game ,, its just as good minus new play nice rules