NIO ES6 Battery Swap in Beijing, China on 12/28/19
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- I had the opportunity to road test the NIO ES6 electric SUV in Beijing, China on December 27th & 28th, 2019. NIO has battery sway stations established in strategic locations in China so their customers can have their empty battery swapped for a fully-charged one in under six minutes - and it's free. Here, I had my battery swapped so I could continue my road-test drive around the Beijing area.
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Amazing tech and one of the reason why I bought NIO stocks. :D
Imagine sitting at Starbucks getting a new battery. I’m sold. Just bought 100 shares at $12.
Brody Douglass great!!! I actually sold all and bought shll after this video.Made huge profits today. I’ll may get back in nio maybe not. The financials don’t look good though.
Up to $19 today.
And your coffee is still hot. I bought 100 shares at 19.....
@Brody Douglass he's doing amazing as of oct 14
I bought 6700 at $3.4 in March :)
Amazing tech. Congratz to the NIO engineers 👍
This legitimately takes less time to fill up a combustion engine fuel tank. I’m impressed nio!!!!
What if they’re even able to have a coffee shop or something
imagine the cost to build and maintain the station. now with a huge improvement in solid state battery, charge rate and capacity is reduced tremendously. pull out and in the battery can cause damage to both car and battery pack. it is not efficient and economic of doing this.
This isn't meant to be done daily anyway, only for longer trips.
What a way to cut the charging times on ev's. Nio is doing a magnificent job to ease up the charging for end user. Not only this fast battery swap. But also the service that they will come and reload your car when ever you want to. Sad to see that the funding is a problem and the company is burning cash at supersonic speeds. Bet the China party won't let this one off their hands even Tesla is a big YES in China as well. I want to see them both succeed. Maybe Nio even more on a short term since there is really no stopping Tesla anymore.
Its expensive to make and probably not necessary as most people can just charge overnight which is enough for daily driving. This would be handy for road trips tho.
@@nofurtherwest3474 In china many do not have yet a change to charge at home. Different infrastructure. It is a costly investment but one that can be profitable and has serious benefits like deletes battery recals.
@@nossiplays yes i'm sure. but they need to build the charge ports for all the owners. that has to be cheaper than building the machines to swap batteries.
@@nofurtherwest3474 obv. The swapping stations are mainly for highways to cut travelling time. Due the cheap salaries in China there is also the "charging as a service". That saves alot of cost and reaches customers that cant have their own home charger.
NossiPlays sorry but if they can afford that car then they can afford at least an extension cord to charge from their 120v outlet
Just now seeing this. I’ve argued for months with people about why battery swapping is the future. Too bad we can’t get auto manufacturers to decide on a battery that will fit in multiple vehicles by different manufacturers
This process will only get faster with new versions of the swap stations
They could have buried the carrier to avoid having to raise the car. It would have also avoided the need to rotate it twice. It would have easily cut the time in half.
great idea...but design can be simpler
Do you get your battery back or did you just give away a brand new battery in exchange for a used one?
I believe that when you buy a NIO, the service comes with it, or you just have a fee every time you swap batteries out, just like at the gas station.
every customer that uses the service will be getting a "gently used" battery. LOL
Do everyone have to get out the car for battery swapping ? If so is that a inconvenience? When you pull up at a gas station your passengers can sit while you fill up
last year the Car use a 70kw battery， and this year can swap to a 100 kw battery， next year maybe swap to a 120kw battery.
Okay, buy in their stocks.
nice car
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This is nice from theoretical point off view but it's too expensive and involves too many mechanical parts. The best way for EVs are their natural compatibility with. future solar tech (Tesla is already on top of this). Check my resent blog for more details
I agree. It might make sense for very high end EVs, like at the Bently level... to have this as an option. If the users want to pay for it then let them have it. But for the mid user it's not practical.
There aren't "too many" mechanical parts. its a platform a hydraulic and a rail. Those are all proven technologies that can be maintained, Factories run on those and run for long periods of time with no issues. China is really good at factory design and this is just a smaller version of those kind of systems.
@@Kaodusanya As Elon Musk said - "The best part is no part". Any mechanical parts are too many if you can avoid them...
@@midnightstar4065 Well said! What if platform breaks and the car is stuck in the station?
It would be interesting to learn if the battery swapping station has a power backup for the platform in case there is a mains outage.
@@nofurtherwest3474 It's very practical you lease the battery and get $6000-$10000 off the price with free swaps. You can still supercharge on the daily and swap for road trips.
I learned that in China...most people live in apartments not homes...and don't have chargers. So swap is fantastic over there. And also you never have to buy a new battery. It's great from customers point of view. Also NIO makes every battery the same size...so doesn't matter what vehicle you are in. The stations are mobile and can quickly move around the city wherever its needed the most. Very good idea in China.
This is also true in NYC. This will be a game changer
thanks. didn't think of this good point before.
What do you mean apartment not homes🤣 people living in apartment don’t even get to call it home? 😂
i heard the best part is you can upgrade your battery. Saying when you buy the car you can only afford a smaller capacity battery, you can always upgrade to a larger cap battery when you have extra cash in the future. Not sure if this is true.
@@lfzhu586 He meant house.
I bet NIO can streamline the battery swap to even faster than current speed.
actually even the current speed is already amazing...several minites is way better than waiting tens of minutes for charging.
I believe that's in the works as is a method to swap without having to raise up the vehicle
Does anyone know if NIO has a patent on this? Would be interesting if Tesla tried to go this route.
@@ReturnTheFavor_ Tesla did work on this but then abandoned it
@@ReturnTheFavor_ yes this is patented
The future of cars. I love it!
The futur of cars it is too the control with electric
Wow and less than 5min later u have a fully charged battery!
Just like you have a full tank of petrol in 5 mins 😑
I'll do this like what, once a few month during an emergency? Rest of the time i'll charge at home. This is like a modern version of an oil change. Please just focus on making batteries that last longer.
@@4b11t9 making better battery is always the pursuit of battery company. But for car manufacturers, swapping battery is the best way before there's any breakthrough in battery technology.
@@brian.z6592 If only someone can make a world class battery and resold to all the different end users.
@@4b11t9 I don't quite get what you mean.... But the best battery today is still not perfect. Xpeng P7 electric car has a long range version which can last 700+km per charge (around 600km in real world use), pretty close to gas power car. But it still have the weight problem, the battery pack is too heavy.
NIO's battery swapping technology will allow users to upgrade their batteries when better battery is available. I personally like this concept.
Simply brilliant !!!
I have a few concerns: what if there’s a long line, something malfunctions during the process, the cost for NIO to operate it. I have a few shares and not sure if I should buy the dip. This battery swap doesn’t seem too practical. Pleeease someone convince me otherwise
Its great to offer battery charger solution, cheap and sustainable. Imagine if someone is in a hurry but the battery is dead, this kinda swap station can do it for you in 5 mins. Even super charger can’t cut it. NIO is ahead of the game in this regard.
I have the same concerns. Also what is the cost of producing the battery change stations. I hope they have plans to create a charging network for the vehicles also. Perhaps the combination of the two will create a good infrastructure.
@@Gogoel-q8f 250kw superchargers in 14 min, 350-500-750k coming soon
In the words of Mando: This is the way 😉
This should be the future of EV. A EV company is not selling cars, but a service to manage a pool of batteries. It is truly a sustainable design. 😊
Grab your NIO stock while it still low. This is the next money making stock to hold. It could be value above $50 or more by the end of the year.
@bob simons he said end of this year
@bob simons lol now its at $19/share
There have been reports that it go as high as 300
You were totally right!!! $42 as of 11/06/2020
The real NICE THING is : The changing battery of NIO is FREE forever ;D
Because you have to pay 60000$ for the car to begin with. This is a system for the 1-percenters. It's not free to build, so who do you think ends up paying for it?
Also they changed their plan. It's no longer free, and instead only your first 6 per month are free, and they reserve the right for them to change that in the future as well.
One of the strongest points (which is why I made a video on it), that differentiates NIO going forward! Thanks for sharing this with us.
Wow, I wish I had this in my country. If they could just do a 100-200kw battery swap, then it would solve all problems.
nice brand..keep it up..good luck china..
You might have a fully charged battery, but you won't have a new battery, maybe a gently used battery, maybe an abused battery, who knows
You buy the Car with a 70kw battery last year，and could change into a 100kw battery this year. Next year you could change a 120 kw battery. That's the story
sure, you could, assuming the battery packs are compatible, but don't assume you can trade in a 70kwh pack and get a 120kwh pack for free
I can remove that battery quicker than that machine! Hahaha 😂
i was wondering, is this a drive thru or backing in? because if it not a drive thru, they should make it drive thru to make it easy and quick. but after seeing this, definitely buying NIO.
Brilliant idea, great car from what I've seen so far but lifting the car up seems a bit inefficient
I love it and it's a must....
there's gonna be that 1 idiot that tries to go under the car while its swapping batteries. so if they have some kinda barrier on then it'll make it even better.
Why is NIO not worth at least 100 dlls per share?
this also means you can have ur battery upgraded when u need range for a road trip and this is amazing when there are more advanced battery technology coming out
This works great.. Until batteries can be charged in a matter of a minute or two than the EV charge stations would make more sense in that case
I didn’t watch the video now, I watched this about three years ago and bought stock in the company because I think it’s a great idea. They change the battery in under 10 minutes. You are not stuck with a battery you were going to have to replace someday. You get I think six free battery swaps per month if you want to do it that way, or you can charge it at home. No people touch the car to change the battery. It is completely Automated 👍
I’m impressed!
I had a samsung s4 phone, it had the capability of swapping out batteries with no issue. I like that, because when Im out in the field. (national guard) i can swap batteries right then and there and not having to wait for a recharge. Now i got an Iphone 8 plus which the battery is built inside the phone. Where if i had to swap batterie it would take more time and effort. I think Nio has the upper leg on the convenience . Where you at Tesla?
Petrol stations in the future could be fitted with these bad boys to not get hollowed out by the incoming tech wave
Hassan M no it will be vandalized
What happen if 100,000 cars need to swap batteries per day? If Nio get that big? Lol
What happened when 100,000 cars need to fill up their tank per day? This process can easily be done in like 3 minutes same as filling up the tank.
@@franksun4017 lol, No line for batteries swaping?
Thanh Nguyen That’s not fair, I have seen gas stations line up. So we gotta use the same standard here.
except for swap stations NIO provide many super charger and regular chargers besides station, so dont worry about it
about 5.5 to 6 min. The guy have to drive car into stall calibrate machine and drive out later
Battery swap is lame. Ditch the battery swap and you got a nice little car there!
WOW I FUCKING LOVE THIS
IMA HAVE TO BUY MORE NIO SHARES AFTER WATCHING THIS
Swapping 100 cars a day, sure. Swapping a million cars a day, your battery reserve must be crazy.
Even Worst on holidays.
@Victor Hugo So this took about 6 mins to use so let's say the maximum usage was 10 cars / hour. A Tesla Charges 0-100% with a supercharger in around 75mins? Nio has some two charge ports patents so bet they will put energy in the battery a bit faster than a supercharger. Also people do not swap only 0% batteries so you kind of make free money and save some time because there is charge left in the battery. So storage needed in a single unit for maximum usage would be around 10 batteries. But then again, if you see a line on the battery swap and there is a fast charger outside as well. You might not see too many lines on these stations. Also you have the app which most likely will if not all ready show you the fastest charging close to you. Also also also. If Nio company is bright enough. They could use these batteries also to cover the grid black outs and make a ton of money for that just because they own the infrastructure.
It’s the same principle of keeping fresh produce at a supermarket. Control of inventory. Simple as that.
Not everyone has a home charger for EV in China.... so battery swap solution might work there if EV is the future....
🤦🏿 Jesus. They are charged once they are swapped out. Takes 30 minutes to charge them
Looks very expensive to build compared to a pump and meter or a plug and wall charger. And I mean... 6 minutes? Ew. Just take 30 seconds and plug your EV in overnight and unplug it in the morning.
What if when drive from Sanfrancis to LA on the high-way
and how long does it take for you to stop and charge on a road trip?
nio is great
I have a few doubts:
If there is no battery ready at the moment, do you have to wait around for a full one or get a partially charged battery? If yes, this does not sound good.
Are batteries always charged to 100% with this method? This would not be good for the batteries.
(meaning more degradation and costs for NIO)
One of the limiting factors for scaling EV is battery production. How many extra batteries need to be produced per swapping station?
Isn't it better for NIO to have more cars around with normal charging?
Can NIO change battery format or are they stuck with the current form since with other formats the swapping station would not work?
Battery tech is evolving quickly.
Is the cost of a swapping station lower than the cost of the amount of chargers needed to have the same output of cars? If no, then it would mean that with the same investment by NIO, customers would have to wait more in queue for the swap compared to the time of charge in a normal charging point.
If demand exceeds supply, the customer will have to wait, the charging station can't magically make fully charged batteries appear out of thin air
Used to do this in NOkIa phone in under a minute , back in the day
It's an option for people who want to swap. You don't have to do this.
First time seeing this process done. I can see this being a second option to plug-in charging.
I see this as primary option
Interesting. For some reason, I thought the process was manual, but it seems that it's automated! It probably would require all models to use the same battery connectors and/or shell. I'm curious to see how the battery connects/disconnects and I'm sure they designed it in a way that they know the battery pack won't just fall out. I can only imagine what they stance on third-party repair could be in comparison to that of Tesla…
There’s no way a human could do this swap under 5 minutes 100 times a day but a machine could with no break. Maintenance should be the only human based job
Oh yeah you would have to implement different stations for each manufacturer or just a simple calibration for those manufacturers in that same station. Technology has advanced more than we know,you could even teach the device itself to find the bolts based on shape to find which ones are needed to install/replace battery.
So I have been thinking, if you can top up the car fast enough in like minutes, then you don’t really need to be worried about range. I don’t see all lambo drivers worried about the distance they can drive.
So neat, China makes the best stuff.
Best car. Waiting for Nepal
So convenient......no issues on battery maintenance.
Imagine selecting what capacity you need, smaller batter for short trip or higher capacity for longer journeys
that is so sick!! And when the batteries get better you just swap them in! That is a huge advantage compared to the competition, hopefully they make it.
Think about this, if there's not enough changing station, how long could I be waiting in line waiting for battery swap?
I hope these cars come to Canada soon!
i kinda want a NIO now, and i am a tesla fan lol
you can watch his vid for some comparison between nio and tesla th-cam.com/video/809QHX_Brus/w-d-xo.html
MUST MUST MUST be very good cup of coffee best type and free for customers during this battery change otherwise it is very not good
Okay and how that hell are going to build this infrastructure in cities, suburbs and highways
How is it disconnecting coolant lines
If your driving long distance and that station malfunctions while ur battery is out, your fcked!
No you're not. You just go to a NIO supercharger and you're charged up to 80% in about a half an hour.
Tom Moloughney i mean of the robot takes your battery out of the car then it freezes or malfunctions in the process how are u supposed to get your car out or drive it back home long distance.
This video does not show that the car is driven into the battery swapping station (and out) by a NIO employee. In a post COVID-19 world this is a potential security hazard, as the NIO employee may interact with as many as 6 cars/hour.
There are rooms to improve I think. NIO should be able to in/out autonomously. It is not that hard just back in and head out.
Dam 🤯
very impressive.. but I do have some concern here. First, the swap station has lot of mechanical and robot component. This looks like expensive to maintain. I heard, the customer is free to use the swap, which could eat a lot of company margin. Second, company to standby a lot of batteries for swap. Batteries is the most expensive part of the car. But customer only paying price for one car and battery.
I am also wondering why Tesla abandon swap in favor for supercharger? is it technology challenge or other concern?
Regardless this is very exciting and could turn into game changer if manage well.
In China, having a reserved parking spot or a garage is less common than in the US, so EV customers can't charge their car overnight unless they have a dedicated parking spot
The fastet electric car charging compared to other companies!!
Software is needed for vehicle auto alignment so no lift is required.
To me this is a phenomenally stupid idea. It's so stupid I can't begin to explain it. But let's start with the mechanical reliability and cost of the battery-swapping machine, the inability to economically scale this process up to support millions of vehicles, the different size, shape, and capacity batteries needed for different vehicles, the difficulty in keeping an inventory of pre-charged batteries, even the amount of energy needed to operate the battery swapping machine. The real problem is that we currently have relatively poor fast-charging technology. That will change soon, and when it does, this amusing battery swapping idea will be no more than a historical footnote.
It’s for NIO vehicles and they charge 10 dollars for the swap. It’s for long range travel not city use. They’ve done 500,000 of these already and have done so for 2 years now.
This is only for cars from the brand NIO, not for every car and they do this for the past two years, works great
You're stupid beyond belief, Nio sales are skyrocketing so clearly it's a great idea in China. They also have charging vans that go to you.
My biggest concern is that the charging time is reducing and no doubt, the future is not that far when we will reach a quick charge with moderate mileage within 5minutes.
I like this company, mainly because i owe some stocks, but this is my biggest concern, plus you are swapping an entire battery out, so you actually are not owing your own battery, correct me if i'm wrong, so during a swap you might get a faulted battery?
You lease the battery and don't own it anyway but you save $6000-$10000 off the price and swaps are free, that's their business model.
This is a great idea! I just wonder how they can offer this to everyone for free. A lot of investment in this process so I wonder how they will calculate the ROI.
Professor X It’s not free - there’s a limit per year that’s free. Some packages, like the limited edition I bought is free for life. Similar to Tesla offering free supercharger until a few years ago. I charge at home so it’s only useful in long distance trips. For a detailed review of the ES6 in English from an owner’s perspective, follow the link: th-cam.com/video/809QHX_Brus/w-d-xo.html
If I have a 70Kwh I can tentatively RENT an84 or 100Kwh for the duration of my trip, then switch back to 70 and my rental would be over. There’s no real push to sell customer the larger batteries unless they want it.
@@FerMuBe really good, because Tesla pushes the long range tech on everybody, which increases the upfront cost by a lot. Swapping is the future!
It’s 10 dollars a swap
@@roodick85 , worth it, $10 for a drive about 250 mile, Petro can never done it.
Nice humming
Awesome
Sick, i bought 50 shares at 11.47
why hasn't Tesla and all the others jump on this idea?
stoner27th Tesla tried it in the past but preferred to SELL the battery to the owner, that way they wouldn’t pick up the tab as it decayed. The burden is on the Tesla owner. For a detailed review of the ES6 in English from an owner’s perspective, follow the link: th-cam.com/video/809QHX_Brus/w-d-xo.html
Plus they spent so much in the supercharger already. There is no room to squeeze this in as a mass solution
@@FerMuBe dude you're disinfo agent. Tesla cleary not a fan of battery swap like Nio did
China Teacher Brand Thank you and bless you for dealing with silly questions lol on behalf of these ppl I’m so sorry.
@@felixnuwahid9879 You're a CIA propaganda agent, it's cause Tesla is greedy as hell like all other American companies.
I hope there would be an option to charge at home..
the changing battery process looks weird
That robot was doing nothing half of the time.
Is this process automated or does it need to be manually monitored by an employee to perform the NIO battery swap?
An NIO employee operates this.
It's automated but monitored by an employee in case of accidents/something going wrong etc. Some batteries also may be dirty so there's at least one employee.
Mandate of heaven
When I posted this, I had just woken up from a dream about nio, never heard of nio before, or the blue sky/mandate of heaven. Things like this happen everyday. Tell me how I can deny God's will.
@@bloodluster7086 Nio is God's Will? Im confused by what you mean with mandata of heaven.
This works well in small scale. When there is a line, swap time = time needed to charge the empty battery, which won't be a lot faster than a charging station.
The cost of a swap station will be equal to multiple changing stations. So the only difference is whether you wait in a line, or at the charging station.
This can't scale, because the swapping station can only service one vehicle at a time, whereas Tesla supercharger locations have multiple stalls and can service multiple vehicle simultaneously
Did u get to visit the factory?
How many batteries can be swapped simultaneously at a single location?
Just 1. The swap stations are single-bay.
This is awesome! Is there also a option for charge at home for NIO?
Home charging device is provided to user free of charge. And the car can be charged using public charging devices as well. Charging port is China is universal, only one type, no confusion.
Dude that car is sexy af
Needs to be faster
so oweful
Well, almost 6 minutes is a long time, a Model 3 can charge 150KW meaning it can charge 15KWh in 6 minutes and drive 60 km/37 miles. If this system gets popular people would have to wait in line.
If there are lots of people you have to wait in line to charge too in the middle of a trip, this is way faster than charging period 5 minutes gets you a full battery good for hundreds of kms.
5 min 👌👌👌👌nice
Still seems inconvenient and strange... and the wear and tear on the connectors to remove/re-insert new battery... I'm not a fan of this.
You must be from that devil island called Taiwan. No wonder.
I'm sure you can still recharge. Lot of dumbasses on this channel
clumsy lengthy process, the battery swap by KANDI was 90seconds, not 6 minutes.
Can you stay in your car during the 5 minutes?
No
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney who would stop you? I assume there are no people there...
@@michaelj.weinstein4016 there is one staff at the station, he is in charge of parking your car into the dock, starting swapping, and taking it out.
Damn
Reduce the time down to under a minute.. you got a Tesla killer.
BigO Daddy not quite. If you have 10 cars pull up and the batteries are not charged underneath in the bays, then what? This works on small small scales, but it’s expensive with little benefit, and you need at least 10 packs per stall to make this feasible. You also still have to charge the batteries while they are in que too. so where do you hold them while they charge? If you have a brand new car and get swapped with an older battery, you just instantly dropped your cars value significantly. This is a very outdated idea that has been proven pointless since you can Supercharger so quickly or just charge at home and always have a full car. Road trips charge faster than you can eat in a Tesla. Tesla Killers don’t exist yet, but let’s hope Nio does well all the same. Battery swapping is one feature they will soon learn is not needed once their charge rates get better.
@@rickkay9548 You can use an app to prebook battery swap service, so that would solve a lot of the potential issues.
@@rickkay9548 The batteries are leased not owned you save $6000-$10000 on the price so it doesn't impact resell value.
This concept was designed by Shai Agassi back in 2007, but went bankrupt in 2013 due to lack of support of the changing stations infrastructure. The company name was better place.