I asked in the comments, but I'll ask here also. I have a fiio m6 that can do what the btr5 does. It can receive ldac. But, do I still need a btr5? Is the fiio device so much better than the other fiio device? Thoughts
@@NestorZaharopoulos Nothing portable really drives the P1 well, short of a pocket thermonuclear device. The BTR5 comes close when using the balanced out.
Hey Zeos, maybe you should make a ranking system with all of the IEMs you've reviewed so far, so we know your opinion how do they compare with eachother! for me it would help me a lot!
Yeah I know that would take a shit ton of time and effort but man if he made an IEM shootout of his past and current IEM and made a graph or scoring system with links id cry "like a beetch" LMAO i died when he was like " I dont like doing numbers, but you fuckers like numbers." hahah yes z 1-10 is da wei.
@@phillipnunya6793 zs10pro is really good iems i think I have them two, but i like hearing blon bl03 much when i am relaxing or working Little bit fatiguing on zs10pro The only one blon bl03 can win vs zs10pro is, the "resolution" I never heard cymbals sound so realistic like bl03 did. Very very high definition. Very clean, clear, and realistic. I will buy iem again if that sound like zs10pro technicalities + bl03 realistic timbre In fact, i know thats will be over $500 😂
@B B I didn't buy any and I wasn't even looking to buy these. I just clicked the link to see what the page said about them when this went up in patreon early access and I commented cause it was funny that it went momentarily out of stock within minutes. Stop being so angry over minute stuff like iem's lol
Love my Legacy 3's, enough that I sold my Clockwork versions and bought the version with a custom shell and faceplate. (they came with a nicer box, carry case and internal connector pins instead of QDC, unlike the one's in this video, they sound the same though) . Gonna post IMGUR links to pictures of them in a response to this one just in case it's not allowed and they can be removed:
Just got these today, really really enjoy them. Like not even custom these are the most comfortable IEMs I've ever had, and I love how they sound. Also, I didn't get anywhere near the same packaging you did. Mine came in a green leather pattern box with a leather/pleather case
They're very revealing eim's. I didn't go with custom mold and don't regret it they very comfortable. Connection is a little bit loose with wire. But sound is amazing. I didn't touched switches so I don't know difference yet. I'm using memory foam tips and they seal completely you can't hear outside noise at all. Stock eim tips good and I used the smallest one, when I usually use medium.
Boy am I glad I got these before your review came out lol. Yes they are incredible. They don't sound as amazing out of the box as the moondrop starfields, but once you get used to them, you can't go back. Buy these, dont look back.
@@kylerclarke2689 Same. But if you can, return those and get these and stick with them. Im telling u these are probably my end game IEM, can't see myself ever wanting more
So after I watched this review I ordered a pair and after just two days of listening I love them. I wanted to upgrade from the tin t2 and kz zsx. I think that these are stellar for the money and even though there are tons of Chinese IEM’s popping up all the time I don’t care now. If I’m going to spend a substantial amount of money I would rather buy actual headphones which I already have plenty of. I can’t imagine anyone would put these in their ears and not like them. After playing with the switches I do find myself favoring the first one down and the second one up. That seems to bring up the mid range a little bit without messing with the fantastic quality bass these things have.
Got the L3's to compare with the Starfields. The main things that stand out to me are the great imaging, and fun bass emphasis. I found the highs of the L3's to be a bit too sharp and shouty for my tastes, and when combined with its bass, the mids feel drowned out. I think the L3's made me discover that I might be treble sensitive who knows lol. The soundstage does not wrap around my head like how the Starfields do, but it does feel deeper making its imaging better than the Starfields. If I had to make an analogy for soundstage of both IEMs, the Starfields are like an average thickness donut that wraps around the head letting you hear things in more directions, while the L3's are like 2/3 of a thicker donut letting you hear things further or closer to you. The details felt the same between both IEMs. Overall, I chose the Starfields as my winner because of the smoother highs that I felt didn't interrupt the mids, and the 'wrap around your head' soundstage which I found to be a lot of fun. L3's are by no means a bad IEM tho, the Starfields just made me discover my preference in sound signature, which it ultimately comes down to.
Carole and Tuesday is one of Shinichiro Watanabe’s best pieces of work. There’s heart in it. Cowboy Bebop was a huge influence on my love for Jazz, and now the Carole and Tuesday’s vocals are doing that again for me. Thanks for bringing this show up, more people need to watch it!
AZLA Sedna Earfit (Dark and Light) are like Spiraldots, but with a longer stem. I use them for Blon BL03's because they extend enough that it gives a better fit in the ear. Also one of the few IEM tips that comes in XS size, which I need for my right ear because S is still too big.
After reading some of the amazon reviews echoing what you said here, I just snagged me some. I have tried several tips on my BLO3’s and am usually only satisfied with the bass I get out of them when I sorta push/hold them into my ears.. hopefully the longer stem on these will help! Thanks for the suggestion my friend.
I'll buy btr5, legacy 3 and grado Sr60 with big pads and won't spend another dollar on audio. I have kph30i. Thank you zeos for making my goal so clear. 😁
@ I did plan on zen dac and sundara.. But buying something costing 500 total would be hard. Plus I have to ask my relatives in US to buy and bring it to my country. And they won't like to carry something big like that. That's why I'm trying to go portable yet beautiful.
@@NestorZaharopoulos a dollar is 135 rupees in Nepali currency 🇳🇵 50 dollar buys me ration for a month plus travel expenses. So yeah. I'm doing pretty good when it comes to eating, studying and living with my earning but when I need to spend in dollars shit gets hard.
I Use Klipsch's Oval ear tips :D on klipsch buds ofc. you cant use them on anything else as they have a plastic latch on them making them *Kipsch specific* stuff lol
So...I bought my L3s back around late March-early April, and then waited. At the time, I had my Sony N3APs ($299), so I was good. I wasn't expecting much from the L3s, and I was really happy with the N3s replay of my favorite music. So I figured, the L3s would be a good beater set, my daily drivers, so to speak... It's July, as of this writing, my L3s happily sit in their tan case. My N3s are my daily drivers. And it's not because I don't like the L3s. The L3s are my precious...I question if I should seek a better pair of iems at this time. I might go with the L9s, but I'm hesitant at this point in time to look any further.
Hello. I'm new to the channel. I'm currently looking to buy moondrop starfield. i saw your review and i was really convinced by that video. Then this video comes in. Which of the two would you recommend to get? I am a beginner, my first iem is a TFZ T2 and i'm looking for a much better sounding iem. Kinda want to try iem with balance, great details, good separation and bigger soundstage.
Sooooo i just read the whooole comment section and altough the question has been asked multiples times, nobody seems to be able to answer it, the holy grail of questions : "Legacy 3 or Tin P1's" Zeos, if u could bring us the light
P1's are fantastic, but need power to run. If you've got the power though, for something new and exciting, go for the P1. The L3 is great and a safe choice, also the ciem feature is good also. It's hard to choose one or the other because it's all based on what you feel will make the music you listen to more enjoyable.
Great IEM, but mine had a QC issue - one IEM cable kept coming off way too easily from the IEM, connection was not very secure - have dropped it twice already due to that. Had similar issue with Voyager 3. Waiting for my Mangrid Tea next - those should be epic as well.
Ordered a set and a btr5 right after this seeing this video. Will be interesting to see how these compare to the fh5 and p1, and how they all sound balanced from the btr5.
When I first got these, I had to go through so many tips that owned. None of the ones I tried worked cuz they either wore my ears my out after 5 minutes, or didn't seal properly. The ones that ended up being perfect, were the medium size tips that came with the AKG earbuds with my Galaxy S20+. I can literally wear these things for hours on end without even remembering that I have them on. These things were definitely made for my ears. If Campfire ditched the metallic design for their Andromedas and went for an ear shape look, I'd buy them again immediately. I plan to give my first set away to a friend of mine so I can get a set of custom made ones with just an all clear look to them.
exact same thing happened to me lol couldn't get a good fit until i tried medium from the akgs, perfect fit Recently I actually bought some spinfit smalls, and they work just a liiiiiittle better for my ears. I love the medium akgs but they're a bit smooth and i have wet earwax, they just lose their seal super slower. the spinfits are just a bit tackier and they just stay there. Love it!
These or Fiio FH3? Please... I would go with the customs - that would be no brainer, but I do not think I can get scan here. So I have a dilema :-D. Thanks for sugestions :-).
picked up a btr-5 before vacation based on your review here. Makes the day so much more enjoyable. What case is that you have on it? Don't see it listed anyplace, so obviously I'm not looking correctly
Hi How is the bass extension on these? Is it impact full enough? I listen to electronic music and rock. I know the details on the highs and mids are good, but the bass is important for me. I own the OH10's and I feel they lack on low end punch. Thanks
@@alex-cd9jc I'm not bass head guy. So my preference maybe different from yours. I prefer details and soundstage. So L3 is more like neutral tuning. If I want more bass I have dac/amp to give bass boost.
I have very happy with my KXXS, but now I want this slightly cheaper IEM. Even it may not be better, at least I have got a spare one and perhaps more importantly a nicer cable.
I prefer a big case so that it can fit a portable hifi player. And larger cases protect the IEM better. :) looking at getting these. Is it better to get the BTR3K I suppose since you already liked the 3 I assume that the K is much better.
They're using standard recessed 0.78mm pins on other models. Not sure why, but it seems like it's only the "clockworks" and "mystique" models that uses the QDC connectors (or whatever it is). All "custom" models, which for some reason, include the "Blue-AW11" on AliExpress / Amazon have standard flat 0.78mm pin connectors.
Shure Olives are really comfortable tips but the cores are non-flexible plastic and narrow so they hardly fit anything. Unless you dig out the core and try to glue one in from some cheap silicone tips you have laying around.
Clearly the market for expensive IEMs has defied the doom and gloom - JV just reviewed a pair of $2800 IEMs. Universal IEMs. From a company with no track record I'm aware of.
I've been using MEE Audio's M6 Pros & M7 Pros for years now. They're not the most exciting to hear. I'm a producer second, a drummer first, & broke always so I love my wide even sound stage and saving money. Lol So for those I just use large Comply tips, but I just recently bought a pair of their newer MX4 iems with their "custom fit in-ear" solution. (custom molded removable tips) Definitely need more time with those before I have a verdict.
I just got my hands on the Pandas and they are the best headphones I've got to listen to. When you talk about detail like the voice decay on Flying Teapot I can finally relate to what you're saying!
Ordered a set of the Legacy 3's earlier in the week but and already have a set of the Legacy 9's which I absolutely adore. Wood faceplate and body that are also incredibly light. There are also the Voyager lines of 3 and 14 but only BAs and I do love having a DD, so stuck with the Legacy line.
Is there a cost-effective way to get a 3D ear canal scan? Or does it require an in-person visit to an audiologist? There's no way I'll do the injection molding method (had a family member who had it done and the mold broke off in the canal and was not a fun experience for the Otologist to remove).
Erm my box is different. Its a slid out tray and iems are on top like the usual presentations. Now I'm wondering if I got the new or older design box ?
Zeos, why sir have u not reviewed any RSL speakers or subwoofers? I don't believe as far as bang for buck they are almost impossible to beat and your all about finding us, your people the very best we can get for x dollars. U WILL ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEM. THE SPEEDWOOFER IS KING OF VALUE BE COOL MAN
ahmang chai They both sound great. Better is subjective & probably situational. The L9 is a little more detailed in the treble. The L9 is BASShead level for sure but very well done without being wonky or too much. The L9 is a little bigger more open soundstage & the L3 is slightly more intimate but still has nice imaging in its stage.
Blessing 2 when? Not that you can buy one right now, the current hype has temporarily overwhelmed Moondrop's supply chain. I can only imagine what happens when you release your video. If you like those more than these, since B2 is also 1DD + 2BA, remember you can custom engrave a waifu of your choice onto the metal plate OR get red/blue wood plates.
If you're happy with the fit and sound of the blon's, stick with them. Sound wise there are minute things the blon does better than the L3's, but also vice versa. Ultimately I'd say get the L3's if you want a ciem or better fit. Otherwise, you've got a winner.
Not sure about tips but I am sure about the KZ upgrade cable, dont ever do it ! I bought the $14 white professional foil braided cable for my kz zsn pro and it made my iem sound like shit no joke it went straight back. That's my experience.
Zeos!! How does balanced output with adapter to unbalanced, compare to pure unbalanced output?? I am trying to figure out if the dynamic range changed between these two options.
A balanced output forced into single-ended headphones with an adapter can potentially _fry your amp_ due to such an adapter combining the two negative signals into one, short circuiting the device. *Don't do it.* The connectors used on balanced and single-ended outputs are distinctly different and incompatible for this exact reason. People selling those kind of adapters are irresponsible, should stop it and rethink their life. (However, the opposite, using balanced headphones on a single-ended output with an adapter is perfectly safe.)
could you measure the nozzle diameter size? im trying to buy tips for it and I don't know if the AZLA SednaEarfit XELASTEC will fit, they are 3.6mm diameter
SirLegendaries A DAC or amp won’t make enough difference in a game to worry about. Use whatever you would use for MUSIC and don’t think about it anymore.
You should review the new house of Marley ANC exodus. I herd they have great well balanced sound. I would love to hear your opinion, considering you liked the build so much of the original.
Sounds like Linsoul did what MEE audio did for me with the M6 Pro. Their just ok headphones, but man, they are the best thing I’ve tried for conveying the emotion of the music. It was the first time I cried because the music was so good, and the headphones disappeared from the experience.
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cryinnnnnnnnnnnnn hehe me tooooooo wahahaha Z
Hey, sorry for the late comment, I have the es100, do I need the btr5?
The BTR5 balanced out has made everything I tried, Starfield, P1 and others, sound as if they were lubed up and ribbed for your increased pleasure.
Are they ceramic or silicone?
I asked in the comments, but I'll ask here also. I have a fiio m6 that can do what the btr5 does. It can receive ldac. But, do I still need a btr5? Is the fiio device so much better than the other fiio device? Thoughts
@Tasunke how do they sound I have the L3 and absolutely love them
Hmmm never thought btr5 would drive p1. Will try later ...
@@NestorZaharopoulos Nothing portable really drives the P1 well, short of a pocket thermonuclear device. The BTR5 comes close when using the balanced out.
Hey Zeos, maybe you should make a ranking system with all of the IEMs you've reviewed so far, so we know your opinion how do they compare with eachother!
for me it would help me a lot!
Yeah I know that would take a shit ton of time and effort but man if he made an IEM shootout of his past and current IEM and made a graph or scoring system with links id cry "like a beetch"
LMAO i died when he was like " I dont like doing numbers, but you fuckers like numbers." hahah yes z 1-10 is da wei.
I second this idea. Zeos seems to really like a lot of things. It would be nice to know which ones he likes best.
Agreed. I remember him saying he liked the KZ ZS10 Pro as much as the BL-03, but then never mentioned it afterwards.
I need this.
@@phillipnunya6793 zs10pro is really good iems i think
I have them two, but i like hearing blon bl03 much when i am relaxing or working
Little bit fatiguing on zs10pro
The only one blon bl03 can win vs zs10pro is, the "resolution"
I never heard cymbals sound so realistic like bl03 did. Very very high definition. Very clean, clear, and realistic.
I will buy iem again if that sound like zs10pro technicalities + bl03 realistic timbre
In fact, i know thats will be over $500 😂
yea this hobby is overwhelming honestly too many options, hard to make any decisions
Welcome to the club.
+1
Cheapest customs and u cry like a beeetch, what else is an option for customs?
Yeah last time i watch zeos video was about kxxs and i think i found my endgame iem, but this video shows up in my recommendation!
But its a good problem to have, yeah?!
Lol they sold out in the 20minutes i've been watching this video. I opened the link, in stock, finish video to see if they still up, sold out.
djkjin88 IF the correct iems are sent out. Read my comment above for what happened to me last week.
@@Assimilator702 The out of stock was 2 weeks ago on patreon early release of the video. They got more in stock at linsoul a few hours afterwards.
@B B I didn't buy any and I wasn't even looking to buy these. I just clicked the link to see what the page said about them when this went up in patreon early access and I commented cause it was funny that it went momentarily out of stock within minutes. Stop being so angry over minute stuff like iem's lol
Love my Legacy 3's, enough that I sold my Clockwork versions and bought the version with a custom shell and faceplate. (they came with a nicer box, carry case and internal connector pins instead of QDC, unlike the one's in this video, they sound the same though) . Gonna post IMGUR links to pictures of them in a response to this one just in case it's not allowed and they can be removed:
nice, where is the link?
@@digitalnation2876 To the pictures? In my 2nd comment here under my first comment.
@@VelcroSnake93 hahaha, but really tho
With qdc how do you know the polarity is correct? Or does it matter?
Just got these today, really really enjoy them. Like not even custom these are the most comfortable IEMs I've ever had, and I love how they sound.
Also, I didn't get anywhere near the same packaging you did. Mine came in a green leather pattern box with a leather/pleather case
They're very revealing eim's. I didn't go with custom mold and don't regret it they very comfortable. Connection is a little bit loose with wire. But sound is amazing. I didn't touched switches so I don't know difference yet. I'm using memory foam tips and they seal completely you can't hear outside noise at all. Stock eim tips good and I used the smallest one, when I usually use medium.
Boy am I glad I got these before your review came out lol. Yes they are incredible. They don't sound as amazing out of the box as the moondrop starfields, but once you get used to them, you can't go back.
Buy these, dont look back.
I already bought t2's and starfields because of zeos and am cutting myself off before this becomes a problem lol
@@kylerclarke2689 Same. But if you can, return those and get these and stick with them. Im telling u these are probably my end game IEM, can't see myself ever wanting more
What makes you like them more than the Starfields? I just bought those today but I can cancel
So after I watched this review I ordered a pair and after just two days of listening I love them. I wanted to upgrade from the tin t2 and kz zsx. I think that these are stellar for the money and even though there are tons of Chinese IEM’s popping up all the time I don’t care now. If I’m going to spend a substantial amount of money I would rather buy actual headphones which I already have plenty of. I can’t imagine anyone would put these in their ears and not like them. After playing with the switches I do find myself favoring the first one down and the second one up. That seems to bring up the mid range a little bit without messing with the fantastic quality bass these things have.
Got the L3's to compare with the Starfields. The main things that stand out to me are the great imaging, and fun bass emphasis. I found the highs of the L3's to be a bit too sharp and shouty for my tastes, and when combined with its bass, the mids feel drowned out. I think the L3's made me discover that I might be treble sensitive who knows lol.
The soundstage does not wrap around my head like how the Starfields do, but it does feel deeper making its imaging better than the Starfields. If I had to make an analogy for soundstage of both IEMs, the Starfields are like an average thickness donut that wraps around the head letting you hear things in more directions, while the L3's are like 2/3 of a thicker donut letting you hear things further or closer to you. The details felt the same between both IEMs.
Overall, I chose the Starfields as my winner because of the smoother highs that I felt didn't interrupt the mids, and the 'wrap around your head' soundstage which I found to be a lot of fun. L3's are by no means a bad IEM tho, the Starfields just made me discover my preference in sound signature, which it ultimately comes down to.
I'm buying the starfields today and honestly this is exactly what I needed to hear to tip me over the edge
Have you tried to eq down the treble?..bass on l3 is better right?
Thank you for this.
Carole and Tuesday is one of Shinichiro Watanabe’s best pieces of work. There’s heart in it. Cowboy Bebop was a huge influence on my love for Jazz, and now the Carole and Tuesday’s vocals are doing that again for me. Thanks for bringing this show up, more people need to watch it!
Same for me and this is a great recommendation. I will give the show a chance.
AZLA Sedna Earfit (Dark and Light) are like Spiraldots, but with a longer stem.
I use them for Blon BL03's because they extend enough that it gives a better fit in the ear. Also one of the few IEM tips that comes in XS size, which I need for my right ear because S is still too big.
After reading some of the amazon reviews echoing what you said here, I just snagged me some. I have tried several tips on my BLO3’s and am usually only satisfied with the bass I get out of them when I sorta push/hold them into my ears.. hopefully the longer stem on these will help! Thanks for the suggestion my friend.
I got the medium which seem to fit amazing using my Blon's but now I feel like there's literally zero bass.. so maybe i'm not getting a good seal?
The Azla dont fall off from the Legacy3 when you put out from your ear ?
Had these for a little over a month now and they are truely epic
14:22 lmao that's actually 14 minutes into the video. Nice.
Thanks, we did a lot of side trecking this time
Actually got it right this time
You know what that case would be good for? Storing Hart interconnect cables.
I realized on rewatch that would be to fit the Custom IEM shape/size
My ES100MK2 is the same on my Blon-03s. BT to my phone (S20+) and LDAC! Blows my mind. And lets be honest...the Earstudio app alone crushes everybody.
I'll buy btr5, legacy 3 and grado Sr60 with big pads and won't spend another dollar on audio. I have kph30i. Thank you zeos for making my goal so clear. 😁
Hahhaah not another dollar ahahaha poor guy.
And then you want planar but then you want something better so .. maybe you save money by going Hifiman Arya immediately? ;D
@ I did plan on zen dac and sundara.. But buying something costing 500 total would be hard. Plus I have to ask my relatives in US to buy and bring it to my country. And they won't like to carry something big like that. That's why I'm trying to go portable yet beautiful.
@@NestorZaharopoulos a dollar is 135 rupees in Nepali currency 🇳🇵
50 dollar buys me ration for a month plus travel expenses. So yeah. I'm doing pretty good when it comes to eating, studying and living with my earning but when I need to spend in dollars shit gets hard.
I Use Klipsch's Oval ear tips :D
on klipsch buds ofc. you cant use them on anything else as they have a plastic latch on them making them *Kipsch specific* stuff lol
Zeos...don't think more than 3 seconds on this question...you can only have these or Starfields...which one?
Bro
Bro
So...I bought my L3s back around late March-early April, and then waited. At the time, I had my Sony N3APs ($299), so I was good. I wasn't expecting much from the L3s, and I was really happy with the N3s replay of my favorite music. So I figured, the L3s would be a good beater set, my daily drivers, so to speak...
It's July, as of this writing, my L3s happily sit in their tan case. My N3s are my daily drivers. And it's not because I don't like the L3s.
The L3s are my precious...I question if I should seek a better pair of iems at this time. I might go with the L9s, but I'm hesitant at this point in time to look any further.
Hello. I'm new to the channel. I'm currently looking to buy moondrop starfield. i saw your review and i was really convinced by that video. Then this video comes in. Which of the two would you recommend to get?
I am a beginner, my first iem is a TFZ T2 and i'm looking for a much better sounding iem. Kinda want to try iem with balance, great details, good separation and bigger soundstage.
Sooooo i just read the whooole comment section and altough the question has been asked multiples times, nobody seems to be able to answer it, the holy grail of questions : "Legacy 3 or Tin P1's"
Zeos, if u could bring us the light
BLON BL 03
P1's are fantastic, but need power to run. If you've got the power though, for something new and exciting, go for the P1. The L3 is great and a safe choice, also the ciem feature is good also. It's hard to choose one or the other because it's all based on what you feel will make the music you listen to more enjoyable.
Whaaaaat Z talking frequencies, singing, telling what a speaker is doing. I love this video. This should be a template for future reviews please.
Great IEM, but mine had a QC issue - one IEM cable kept coming off way too easily from the IEM, connection was not very secure - have dropped it twice already due to that. Had similar issue with Voyager 3. Waiting for my Mangrid Tea next - those should be epic as well.
I have to much money Zeos.... tel me what to buy....
ok.. Buy a TYGR 300 R - beyerdynamic for everyone that likes this comment:
😁
We are here for a reason and you all know it.
Now we actually only need someone with to much money 😢
Ill glady accept a pair
Here to test the validity of this comment 😉
Yesss
I love my l9s. That live sound. The new monarch and clairvoyance look like the next step up.
Which are the best overall, lagacy 3s, BLON BL05, or starfields?
Ordered a set and a btr5 right after this seeing this video. Will be interesting to see how these compare to the fh5 and p1, and how they all sound balanced from the btr5.
Report back.
So?
any report about P1 vs Legacy 3 ?
of course you had to drop this review 2 weeks after I bought starfields.
*I want custom iems too damnit!*
Just ordered these. Lets see if I cry. I have had music sounding so good and make me emotional at the same time.
Yea they are real gears from watches, each one is unique.
Very nice review :) , L3 vs Fiio FH3 ,, which one is better sound quality in your opinion ?
Please compare,
Thieaudio Monarch & Thieaudio Clairvoyance
with
Shouer EJO7 & Shouer Conductor
Bought the legacy 5 since Zeos praised them so much, waiting impatiently for them at the moment
Zeos: how well does that BTR5 drive the Tin P1’s?
Whats the different in sounds signature between T1 and T2s?
When I first got these, I had to go through so many tips that owned. None of the ones I tried worked cuz they either wore my ears my out after 5 minutes, or didn't seal properly.
The ones that ended up being perfect, were the medium size tips that came with the AKG earbuds with my Galaxy S20+. I can literally wear these things for hours on end without even remembering that I have them on. These things were definitely made for my ears. If Campfire ditched the metallic design for their Andromedas and went for an ear shape look, I'd buy them again immediately.
I plan to give my first set away to a friend of mine so I can get a set of custom made ones with just an all clear look to them.
Can you give a breef description of those adjustments you make with that little tool?
exact same thing happened to me lol couldn't get a good fit until i tried medium from the akgs, perfect fit
Recently I actually bought some spinfit smalls, and they work just a liiiiiittle better for my ears. I love the medium akgs but they're a bit smooth and i have wet earwax, they just lose their seal super slower. the spinfits are just a bit tackier and they just stay there. Love it!
You can get custom tips for the Andromedas if you really want great comfort with the Andromedas.
@@ViceVersace Bass doesn't make a difference at all. Treble makes a bit of a difference.
These or Fiio FH3? Please... I would go with the customs - that would be no brainer, but I do not think I can get scan here. So I have a dilema :-D. Thanks for sugestions :-).
Just unpacked these and compared. Z... you NEED to hear these balanced HOLY CRAP
picked up a btr-5 before vacation based on your review here. Makes the day so much more enjoyable. What case is that you have on it? Don't see it listed anyplace, so obviously I'm not looking correctly
Watching this review on my L3
Hi
How is the bass extension on these? Is it impact full enough? I listen to electronic music and rock.
I know the details on the highs and mids are good, but the bass is important for me.
I own the OH10's and I feel they lack on low end punch.
Thanks
@@alex-cd9jc I'm not bass head guy. So my preference maybe different from yours. I prefer details and soundstage. So L3 is more like neutral tuning. If I want more bass I have dac/amp to give bass boost.
Hey zeos, i have OH10, Tin P1, and Starfields. Do i need the legacy 3?
Audio is not about need. I got em lol
@@NestorZaharopoulos that's the spirit!
@@NestorZaharopoulos u my man
Yes as soon as I get paid I’ll support your channel stay chilled z dude
I am very confused with my decision, please help me to choose one.
Fiio fh3 -- tape pro -- thieaudio l3 -- moondrop starfield 🙏
I have very happy with my KXXS, but now I want this slightly cheaper IEM. Even it may not be better, at least I have got a spare one and perhaps more importantly a nicer cable.
I prefer a big case so that it can fit a portable hifi player. And larger cases protect the IEM better. :) looking at getting these. Is it better to get the BTR3K I suppose since you already liked the 3 I assume that the K is much better.
But what do you use listen to music on (player) my bad I only saw two videos so far
14:54 You´re one of the very few audiophiles that realizes that. Congratulations.
Takes a LOT of experience. Like this channels worth.
It's a myth and always will be. It's always ones brain.
Except in horn sub drivers.
They're using standard recessed 0.78mm pins on other models.
Not sure why, but it seems like it's only the "clockworks" and "mystique" models that uses the QDC connectors (or whatever it is).
All "custom" models, which for some reason, include the "Blue-AW11" on AliExpress / Amazon have standard flat 0.78mm pin connectors.
You can make a request and they will put whatever connector you want
How would you compare these to the FiiO FH5s ? (just want to put that into perspective considering the difference in cost).
Shure Olives are really comfortable tips but the cores are non-flexible plastic and narrow so they hardly fit anything. Unless you dig out the core and try to glue one in from some cheap silicone tips you have laying around.
symbio ear tips. You have to give them a try.
The newer version has a different case
Clearly the market for expensive IEMs has defied the doom and gloom - JV just reviewed a pair of $2800 IEMs. Universal IEMs. From a company with no track record I'm aware of.
I don't have a BTR5 but I've got an ES100 and it makes BLON BL-03 sound amazing instead of just good.
Okay so how do the switch actually change the signature people, it matters to me.
I've been using MEE Audio's M6 Pros & M7 Pros for years now. They're not the most exciting to hear. I'm a producer second, a drummer first, & broke always so I love my wide even sound stage and saving money. Lol So for those I just use large Comply tips, but I just recently bought a pair of their newer MX4 iems with their "custom fit in-ear" solution. (custom molded removable tips) Definitely need more time with those before I have a verdict.
audiopendent Thumbs up for being a drummer.
I just got my hands on the Pandas and they are the best headphones I've got to listen to. When you talk about detail like the voice decay on Flying Teapot I can finally relate to what you're saying!
Ordered a set of the Legacy 3's earlier in the week but and already have a set of the Legacy 9's which I absolutely adore. Wood faceplate and body that are also incredibly light. There are also the Voyager lines of 3 and 14 but only BAs and I do love having a DD, so stuck with the Legacy line.
Legacy 3's on their website have a different type of connectors. Has this changed or is there a choice of the type of connectors?
Is there a cost-effective way to get a 3D ear canal scan? Or does it require an in-person visit to an audiologist? There's no way I'll do the injection molding method (had a family member who had it done and the mold broke off in the canal and was not a fun experience for the Otologist to remove).
Thieaudio L3 or Fiio fh3? Which is better?
Zeos, If a tip makes subtle changes to sound, what changes does a custom scan make? Any general.impressions you can share?I'
Erm my box is different. Its a slid out tray and iems are on top like the usual presentations. Now I'm wondering if I got the new or older design box ?
Zeos, why sir have u not reviewed any RSL speakers or subwoofers?
I don't believe as far as bang for buck they are almost impossible to beat and your all about finding us, your people the very best we can get for x dollars. U WILL ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEM. THE SPEEDWOOFER IS KING OF VALUE
BE COOL MAN
Not tips, but Wicked Cushions on amazon are absolutely mind blowing. Give them a lookup if you haven't already
Which you prepare tin hifi p1 of legacy 3? In your personal taste
Azla sedna earfit light tips are a game changer for blons. Blons use NX7 connectors not qdc.
tips on iem are like pads on headphone they do change the sound. Foam tips roll of treble, silicone gives more treble.
I love these & the Legacy 9 - I got that “pottery color” which looks dope. Just got a haircut the other day.
which one is better? both were in my list, btw i'm a basshead
ahmang chai They both sound great. Better is subjective & probably situational. The L9 is a little more detailed in the treble. The L9 is BASShead level for sure but very well done without being wonky or too much. The L9 is a little bigger more open soundstage & the L3 is slightly more intimate but still has nice imaging in its stage.
@@briandorsey6437 thx alot for the help
These or moondrop starfield?
Blessing 2 when? Not that you can buy one right now, the current hype has temporarily overwhelmed Moondrop's supply chain. I can only imagine what happens when you release your video. If you like those more than these, since B2 is also 1DD + 2BA, remember you can custom engrave a waifu of your choice onto the metal plate OR get red/blue wood plates.
Blessing 2 is 1DD + 4BA.
Spoilers, I didn't like the Blessing 2. Because of personal issues or manufacturing variation. They were just not right with me.
@@ZReviews starfields or legacy 3s??
@@ZReviews moondrop aria's or legacy 3s?
How about Shozy from1:1 and Tanchjim Hana.?
How often does he get specially tuned ones just for the review?
Yeah damn I'm aware of this too, would be a scam actually:/
Saw the upload notification, bought a pair, and then proceeded to watch the video.
Anyone knows any Audiologist that can do 3D scanned of your ear for the ear impressions ? I wanna get these Custom IEM. Im in san diego area.
That camera work would give an aspirin a sore head.
Been using it with stock tips/cable and default switch setting, loving every bit of it for 3 weeks now since I got it.
These vs. Moondrop Starfields?
Someone plz answer
@Ashley Wright thanku. Now does anyone know where to get CEIM measurements done during a pandemic? 😂
@Ashley Wright why? I JUST bought the starfields so I wanna know if I should cancel
Shouer made new iem with similar 1 dynamic 2 balance armature, it graph the same and it is cheaper, named SHUOER S10
need some help, should i bie legacy 2/3 or sennheiser ie300? or tfz essence ((and tin t4 blon05s, aria or starfield?))
...the gears are often asked about - the phones are lovely!
yeah ok...just got them in and I now understand...enlightened.
Im not well versed in this topic. What does he have the iems connected to? Id like to know exactly what they are.
Its Fiio BTR5, a bluetooth receiver and dac/amp. Just plug your iem to the btr5 3.5 port and connect your phone bluetooth to the btr5.
Please review your custom IEMs, so you can show us what better the customs are!
Are these blon-03 upgrade ? is it twice the value of the blon or not ?
If you're happy with the fit and sound of the blon's, stick with them. Sound wise there are minute things the blon does better than the L3's, but also vice versa. Ultimately I'd say get the L3's if you want a ciem or better fit. Otherwise, you've got a winner.
Hi Z, Does the QDC-type Tripowin have the right polarity for L3? I'm planning to buy one with 2.5mm jack.
Please also review the urbanfun ybf-iss014
Not sure about tips but I am sure about the KZ upgrade cable, dont ever do it ! I bought the $14 white professional foil braided cable for my kz zsn pro and it made my iem sound like shit no joke it went straight back. That's my experience.
Boomy base??? How is the mid/vocal??
Zeos!! How does balanced output with adapter to unbalanced, compare to pure unbalanced output?? I am trying to figure out if the dynamic range changed between these two options.
A balanced output forced into single-ended headphones with an adapter can potentially _fry your amp_ due to such an adapter combining the two negative signals into one, short circuiting the device. *Don't do it.* The connectors used on balanced and single-ended outputs are distinctly different and incompatible for this exact reason.
People selling those kind of adapters are irresponsible, should stop it and rethink their life.
(However, the opposite, using balanced headphones on a single-ended output with an adapter is perfectly safe.)
damn with that price if it is actually that great then why am I making my own ciem...
9:30 But i have hiby R3 Pro, and my phone doesn't have mSD slot to hold my music.
Hey Zoes, is the galaxy buds review on the way?
could you measure the nozzle diameter size? im trying to buy tips for it and I don't know if the AZLA SednaEarfit XELASTEC will fit, they are 3.6mm diameter
What would be the best DAC/Amp for the ATH-AD2000X for serious gaming/footsteps detection? I'd appreciate your guidance.
SirLegendaries A DAC or amp won’t make enough difference in a game to worry about. Use whatever you would use for MUSIC and don’t think about it anymore.
Z Can you tell me why my Etymotic ER2XR's with MMXC Connection will NOT clip into FiiOs MMXC Over the Ears Bluetooth Solution??The UTWS1'S.
You should review the new house of Marley ANC exodus. I herd they have great well balanced sound. I would love to hear your opinion, considering you liked the build so much of the original.
Sounds like Linsoul did what MEE audio did for me with the M6 Pro. Their just ok headphones, but man, they are the best thing I’ve tried for conveying the emotion of the music. It was the first time I cried because the music was so good, and the headphones disappeared from the experience.
Better then the bgvp dm6 ? Worth the upgrade ?