2022 Trek Rail Review - Bigger and Better Than Ever
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ธ.ค. 2021
- Next gen Trek Rail gets a huge 750Wh battery, all new Bosch Smart motor system, updated geometry that closely follows the Trek Slash and some cool new tech from Rockshox called AirWiz that sits on the RockShox Zeb and Super Deluxe Shock to wirelessly send air pressure to your phone.
Model is the Trek Rail 9.9 AXS priced at £12,450. I weighed it at 23.4 KG in XL when setup tubeless without pedals. The new range starts with the 9.8 and prices start at £8,250.
For 2022 the Trek rail 9.8 models and above have the new frame, which is longer than previous models in reach, has a steeper seat tube, 29er front and rear but mullet ready with flip chip, a 64.5 degree head angle, aggressive enduro based geometry and the 85Nm Bosch Smart System with new 750 RIB removable battery.
ETHICS and DISCLAIMER: Trek hired me to test the bike, review it and to produce a video for on my TH-cam channel. Trek have have had no direct input on this content or any editorial or narrative control over the video. The first time that they see this video is on release, the same time as general release to you, the viewer. This paid partnership with Trek has allowed me ample time to test the bike and also film and edit over multiple days working with Jon (The Bike Pilot) to capture the bike shots and produce the video content. - กีฬา
Monster Truck in an ebike with massive battery. I like it so much I bought one.
music @2:30 ish is????
Just listened to your review again Rob. Have to say, you do amazing reviews and content on your channel. Brilliant work!
How's it's compare to the gen 3 Levo Rob?
Monster Truck is the right word. Much too heavy and the Bosch control unit....common it is ugly, big and for old men. With a heavy bike you always need a lot of speed to handle it. Try a 19 or 20kg EMTB and you feel the difference. A Bunny Hop or a lift over a root with low speed on a 25kg bike is like playing with a brick.
@@thomasgersdorf2828 So how old to you consider someone to be "an old man".
There is one thing I don't like about the bike ....I can't afford it 😂 as always , great content 👍🏼
Look at a Powerfly. Great value and can be upgraded later
@@islandaerial3414 i will , thanks for the info :)
@@islandaerial3414 ive got the powerfly 7 2022 and its fantastic .
@@James-hh1lq I've only ever seen the Powerfly 4 around here. Thought they discontinued it. 🤔
Don't be cheap, finance it....
What a fantastic review so thank you.
I’d been looking at this bike for a while, reading review after review. Reading your review really inspired me with faith with regards to its capability and the new Bosch motor and electronic features. So now I’m a proud owner of the 9.8 and it’s totally awesome so thanks again 👌🏻👊🏼
I just got back from my local Trek store here in Perth Western Australia and purchased my first 9.8 Rail E bike and from the moment i took it for a spin in the car park i was siging the contract. wow i cant wait to hit the trails after seeing your review. cant wait to go chasing my son around our local tracks whohoooooo.
Thanks Rob! I’m sold! Been considering this bike but wasn’t sure if I would be better with something with more travel. Your review has sealed it for me 👍
Paid or otherwise, this was a really great review, Rob. Your editing is top notch too.
Trek, for me, make the best E-Bikes. They ride incredible and use a fantastic motor too. I’m not a fan of the Bosch control unit, nor am I a fan of the display on the top tube; Shimano beats this hands down, plus, I really hope they’ve managed to sort out the chainring issue, where it constantly comes loose - even though Bosch refused to admit that this was an issue. Anyway, that aside, this is one hell of a bike, because I really like Trek geometry, their details, and their suspension kinematics is sublime. Keep up the good work.
Great vid. I just recently bought a 2021 Rail 9.7. Upgraded from a Giant Trance X E plus 29 pro. Major performance difference between the two bikes. Enjoy your new ride.
about to pick-up this model later this week/ lightly used by t sound of it… this review makes me happy w anticipation! cheers Rob from NZ
Rob... another absolute best video! This Trek looks amazing. Your detailed description of components on the Rail.. and review of climbing, descending, and handling was brilliant. Honestly, I am so torn between this Trek.. and the new Yeti 160e. Love the Bosch power platform, but the Yeti suspension and handling... tough choice! Thanks so much for sharing this review....
I've just bought the 9.9 xtr 😁😁😁 can't wait to get it! Fingers crossed for the end of the month 🤞🏼🤞🏼
Great review Rob, thanks! That bike promises to be wonderful. Glad I stuck with Trek when the 2021 9.8 XT I ordered in October 2020 was cancelled and replaced by this one. Knowing that the bike delivers I hope the manufacturer will deliver as promised ...... next April (18 months waiting). Wish me luck and good luck with yours (curious to hear when yours gets delivered)
One question: how does the paintwork fare? I have seen comments that it's very easy to scratch and chip. So order a vinyl sticker kit at once??
Fantastic review as always!! Keep up the good work. Ps what make are the clear glasses you wearing in the test?
Great review Rob. Like a lot of people, I can’t justify top of the line prices, so I’d like to see reviews of the entry level 9.7., compared with the Orbea and Specialized. I’m also not ready to commit to a full sized (heavy) e bike. So I’m looking for a lighter bike as I get used to the concept. I really like Trek’s battery key concept, because there aren’t many battery thieves……yet. They’ll be here soon enough. Just keep your key with your charger, you don’t need to carry it around. Love your style of review and I especially appreciate the honest criticisms, because that is rare.
Sweet review Rob, well done! How does it compare to the Gen3 Levo?
Great review , balanced & strait to the point. as for the bike its an insane amout of money & im not sure i could tell the difference between that & a £4k bike. keep em coming .
They do a rail 5 which is 4k
Really shocking of how the industry talkes about pricing these days….. just go in the shop and drop 12k…. do you guys know how long a doozer has to work to can effort such a vehicle? And the end we are still talking about a bicyle!!! Crazy world!!!
I have noticed it as well…i was surprised at myself of the fact that i bought my first trek fatbike 5 years ago for 2k euros. It felt like…” once i buy this it better stay with me for the rest of my life” kinda feeling
Overpriced by a long way
The actual cost to make the bike is around $650.
As a Turk, if we translate currency today for Turkey , its cost 120k :)
Should just go buy a new ktm…….same $$
I like the suspension movement video sequences
Thanks for the super high quality review. I can see how much effort you put into filming, editing and choosing the right topics to discuss 👌 I can only imagine the time you spent on this video - Great stuff!
I cant say much about the Rail itself, since I am not the target group at all - But what I can say is, that I appreciated your coverage of the new Bosch Smart System and how it feels like in the "real world". Especially your comments about the display, the controller and the app. I am interested in buying a hardtail with this tech and your insights were really helpful 👍
Thanks :-) Would you like to see more on the Bosch Smart? I might make a stand alone video on it.
@@RobRidesEMTB As much as I like the potential of the Smart System and the more or less decent launch functionality, I have to agree with what you already said in this video. There are just not a lot of features yet. I would wait to produce a separate video until there are more complex features like navigation, theft protection, fitness app integration etc.
@@RobRidesEMTB Yes please!
Hi Rob. Thanks for another honest and informative review. One question. I love the mullet setup on my Merida and notice if you set the flip chip in the high setting on the Rail you can put a 27.5” on the rear. Although this slackens the geometry a little do you see any benefits in a mullet, such as better handling on tight switchbacks?
Great Chanel and content 👍
Just getting into this after years on a Santa Cruz analogue, decided on a levo sl as a first half way step.
Have you now gone over to trek?
Can I ask did you part ways with your levo sl for a kenevo sl?
I ordered a 2022 Rail 9.8 XT project one. It's scheduled to arrive in March. Can't wait :=)
OMG: totally agree regarding the key/lock system for the battery!!!! I have a Shimano ebike but I’m actually surprised that there’s no aftermarket replacement…
So glad someone else feels the insanely better feel of the Bosch. I love the bullit I have but I’m getting a rail after one ride on one. That Bosch…. Nobody else comes close.
Great review and what an awesome bike, the Rail 2021 was already one of the best all mountain e-bikes you can buy and now the 2021 has gone one step further! The only thing that worries me with that much tech if something goes wrong its going to cost you big time!
Mo tech, Mo problems! Maybe, has been good so far, but no doubt more stuff to go wrong potentially. SRAM / Bosch seem pretty dialled with the new tech these days.
Good review as always , when will you be doing the review of the giant
Another great review. Cheers
Mine is less than 24 hours old...love it already and I haven't even taken it out on the trail yet!
An important feature of the tirewizz is that it will link to a Garmin so you can view live tire pressures and most importantly it will notify you on the Garmin screen if your pressures drop below the set value. That is the killer feature which is not mentioned here.
Good to know, thanks for that!
I have the previous Rail 9.9 axs. My rear shock failed and unable to get parts until JULY!!!!! Only shock my LBS can find is an Ohlins at £850 inc spring. Soo disappointed that the shock spare parts are not available.
Love the new tech but be warned about through shaft shock parts being unavailable.
Nice vid Rob.
very interested in how this bike compares to a new giant reign e+
Great review as always Rob! Did you order the bike with the Rockshox Ultimate or the Select+ fork? Will this fork choice affect the front suspension a lot? A review on the new 2022 Haibike Nduro 7 or 8 Freeride, as well as the Haibike Allmtn 10 would be awesome! Also, the Scott Ransom e ride seems nice too! Keep up the good work!!Cheers!
At 6:30 he says it has an ultimate
Great review as walkways Rob! And the bike looks sweet. I’m surprised you didn’t put the boot in a bit harder on the integration of that screen and the bulkiness of that remote.. By now I really feel like E-Bikes shouldn’t have ‘bolted on’ tech. It should be integrated properly. Especially for 10 grand! I guess it’s more annoying for some than others. And of course how the bike rides is top priority. But it looks like zero effort has happened to integrate the tech and make a tactile remote.
If you flip the bike does it rest on the remote too? Kinda looks like it would.
Looks like a super no-nonsense piece of hardware, thanks for the video!
Does it have any anti-theft tech in it?
Fantastic review 👍🏻
Awesome review cheers
Great reveiw as always Rob. Just a pity they didn't go the extra mile and really integrate the display in to the top tube. Lot of money for a messy looking control system.
Sure, would look way neater if it was integrated into the top tube. Rarely see such integration with the Bosch systems, they are closed designs so manufacturers are really limited to what they can do with them. For example, its not possible to use different controllers, screens or batteries. Manufacturers have to use Bosch only parts.
Awesome review. I’m about to drop on a 9.7. Having tried a Megawatt (no complaints, another great bike but for the price the Trek is better value) and Heckler (another great bike but I preferred the motor on the Trek) I’m pretty sure I’ll have no buyers regret.
Bike is looking mint! You know if there is more clearance for piggy backs on aftermarket shocks on this years models?
Great review Rob, such good content as always. Obv as others saying £12k is a lot and if paying that you'd expect it to be a sorted bike. Be interesting to see a side-by-side with say the 9.7 that has a much inferior spec. As a £7k bike that's more likely to be in reach for most. At top end manufacturers need to be much more aware of sustainability perhaps? Love to get your thoughts on that at some point as someone heavily involved. Be tough to be rolling a +£10k bike every 18-24months due to technology/geometry changes.
@sean I was having this exact thought deciding between a 2022 9.8XT (smart system & 750wh) vs the 2022 Rail 7. The higher model wins out due to the new smart system being upgradable and the rail 7 stuck on Purion with no chance of upgrading software or larger battery or anything else. The 9.8 is 4K cheaper than the 9.9 seen here too
@@bwdown exactly John, that on paper looks like the better option. I’m going to upgrade my Levo at some point but more likely to got for something lighter like the Orbea Rise. Have upgraded everything on my bike but it’s frustrating no option to upgrade the battery. I get it, they’d sell less bikes but perhaps need balancing with sustainability these days!! 👍🙏
Geez, since when is £7K (let alone £10K) a reasonable price point?? Are you all trust fund babies? I thought $4K was a huge outlay for an ebike...
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb ha, no trust fund just been working my nuts off for 30yrs so I can afford some stuff I enjoy and help some others along the way bud!!! 🙏👍
Awesome, Awesome, Awesome, been waiting for this vid for ages. 🤟🤟
Thank you for the detailed and very interesting video test of your Trek Rail 9.9, 2022. I myself ride a 2021 9.9 AXS.
As I noticed, you have - probably due to your body size- your saddle on this bike positioned very far forward, although the seat angle in the new model year 2022 of the Rail is now 77 degrees instead of 75, so already a lot steeper than the 21er model.
Do you drive the mino link system of the rear triangle in the flat or in the high position (the second would make the seat angle even steeper) ?
Additionally , if you want to tell me, how many cm is your personal stride length - so I could determine in comparison, whether it could fit with the new frame geometry of the Trek also with me. I am quite tall an have a stride length of 95cm.
I would be pleased about an answer.
Best regards from Germany,
Sven
I went to the dealer to order one - next September, possibly. Lucky Rob. (So I got a gen2 Levo comp on sale 1k off msrp so I’m happy)
Great vid as usual. I ride a Cube 140 TM with a 750w battery and what I am noting is that every review of this battery, including yours suggests its near limitless? I would like to see some perspective here and consideration of different fitness and weight of rider as these are key to how long the battery actually lasts? I am a fairly fit 60 year old who typically rides between 1000 and 1400m on most of my rides. I mainly use Turbo+ with eMTB only when it gets super steep. I returned from a near 4 hr ride on Sunday hitting almost 1400m with 50k ridden. I had approx 18% battery left. I think at a push i could get another 100-200m ascent using the same mode but may well limp home with little or no battery left. Is that the definition of limitless battery?
Great Review thanks for all the work you put into these reviews. Question, how do you think the Rail and Bosch motor compare to the new Giant Trance X E+ / Reign and the Yamaha motor? Also how does the Rail's long wheelbase compare to the Reign and do they feel significantly different handling wise?
Initial ride on the new Yam motor has felt a little weaker than the Bosch in terms of outright power.
@@RobRidesEMTB well, you made my choise a lot easier, was doubting between the giant trance e and the rail…. My preference goes out to the trek, not the top version but the 5 or 7. Witch is in your opinion the better choise? Great vids , love the channel
@@guidosperandieu4884what did u choose and how has it been? I might get rail 7
@@-ETK- got a giant trance E3, didn’t like the remote on the trek, on the giant it is allmost not noticeable, overall the giant is a good bike with the pwx motor, but on my speedpedelac i’ve got a bosch motor like you would have on the rail. I like the bosch more, but still happy with my giant
@@guidosperandieu4884 ok, getting my rail7 in 2-3 weeks. Visited dealer today and ordered.
Great vid as usual Rob. I've got last years model & its a great bike. Although for the next bike probably looking for a bit more travel for some of the trails up here in Scotland. Wonder if the geo will support a 170mm/160mm combo? Also looking at the Yeti, Santa Cruz & Kelly's as alternatives, they have more travel & the geo numbers look good, but they use the Shimano & on balance I really like the bosch (minus the new controller)
Yes, its Trek rated for a 170mm fork. Also I hired Andrextr to give me more details about the frame and suspension linkage. You can over stroke the shock to run more rear travel (although its probably not warrantied to do so). See more details here: www.emtbforums.com/community/threads/2022-trek-rail-9-9-review.25778/#post-357595
@@RobRidesEMTB Did you go for the 9.8 or the full monty? Was thinking the 9.8 myself
Cheapest 9.8 👍 same frame, geo and Bosch system
I like the way the Rail looks compared to other e-bikes, the motor blends in and looks very small compared to the likes of Giant and Whyte Bikes. My trek rail 5 2020 has been an absolute beast, I have no doubt this updated version is just as good. Amazing technology and an amazing time to be riding bikes :)
Nicely shot review! With the new controller does it only show power incrimjents of 20%.... or do differing colours of the leds allow the 5 lights to show it in steps of 10%?
10% increments. The LED colour changes. Neat touch!
Hi Rob! I always take you reviews in great consideration, I'm from Italy and I woul like to buy one. I have a Cannondale Habit Neo, I love the Bosch motor but I would like something more aggressive. I have one question: I'm 189 Cm tall, so more or less like You, what do you think Large or XL? The Cannondale habbit Neo That I have is in size Large (reach 470) and for me is a bit in the small side. Thank You in advance for your answer.
I just picked up a 2022 demo rail 5 alloy for 3500 with 20miles on it - so happy
the new controller works for me, I hate having to look down at top tube to see if im in correct mode whilst climbing chunky trails.
I think it will work fine for a load of people. I can get used to it, but still think that there is space for something more minimalist :-)
@@RobRidesEMTB I agree, I have to give it to you on the filming and editing very well done mate.
Hi Rob,great vid as usual.
How does it stack up against the Levo gen 3?
Would make a great vid!
@Rob Rides EMTB come on give us a commitment 😁😁😁👍🏻👍🏻🙏🙏
Great review as always. Hoping Bosch add mapping to the Kiox 300 as it seems a step backwards from the last gen.
I think mapping is coming... I'm pretty sure I saw it on a TH-cam vid (maybe even on Treks own vid on the rail) but I'd bet a lot that it'll be included.
@@RobRidesEMTB your right, found it on this vid.
th-cam.com/video/7U3JxXW20Kc/w-d-xo.html
The mapping on my Nyon with the way it integrates with All Trails or Komoot is one of my favorite things. My 2020 9.7 rail has everything I could possibly need for an over 60 yr old rider. It’s a game changer. You can’t take the money with you when you’re gone. I bought my wife one she’s going out with me every time we go riding it’s just pure joy.
Sounds like an Awesome Bike! But...can you install a speedbox? I dont have Any Hills only flat lands i cant have my ride be strangled by a limitor to 25km ,No idea with an Emtb🤔
I’ve been unsure between Trek Rail 9 and Turbo Levo Comp, but at the end I choose the second for the better integration and silence motor. Anyway Trek is a fantastic ebike too!
How have you found riding the Levo Comp? Any cons?
Now then….it seems the 2022 9.8 Rail has geo figures similar to your very much favoured Kenevo S5 ( which I also ride in Mullet setup). Hence why perhaps you liked it so much ?
It would be super if Trek offered this “modern” geo in a bigger range (cost wise) of models. That way riders can enter lower down if budget dictates then upgrade rather than facing a 10k cost.
Rob and I are of similar height and build which means bike manufacturers haven’t catered for us in design for many years, only realised when you ride a bike that actually fits. The “planted” feel is a bike that fits and one in which you are balanced front/rear. The need for longer CS on a 29 Ebike (447) means the longer reach (521) is balanced. And boy asRob rightly says you can feel it.
Trek has always been top notch on kinematic and geo since the Slash 29er; the Ebike version has finally caught up at a price.
Spesh did this a couple of years ago with S sizing meaning a rider could size a bike without the penalty of a long seat post. What Spesh did was to offer the same geo across the spec range allowing riders to enter at a lower (never cheap) price and build up. Much like Rob did with his last Trek Rail.
I suspect that with the rave reviews we will see Trek moving to this geo across the platform.
Great review Rob….reviewed the bike….bought the bike…sang the theme tune…
Rob, please let us know if this rockshox automatic suspension system does take the temperature into account. Mine suspension (fox) works in a completely different way during the winter, so I wonder how this electronic gadget deals with that.
Nice bike. Would love to see you review the 2022 Mondraker Crafty XR with onlins suspension (150/170mm), carbon frame, Bosch CX motor and 750 battery and or a good price. Also the Mondraker Crafty RR SL
Please can you review the new pw x3 motor ASAP Rob.
I've pre ordered the Nduro 7 and I'm desperate to know whether the motor is something I should be concerned about as I've only had Bosch before.
Thank you.
The PW-X3 less puncy. Something between EP8 and Bosch.
Just bought a 2022 9.7. I love the locking battery, but I do live in South Africa...
It would be really interesting to do a back to back on this bike and the spesh comp carbon 22 🤔
Rob I've just bought this exact model. Did you ever notice a harsh/nasty sound on big landings, sounds like a bottom out of the fork? Not sure if it's the motor but it's a lot harsher than the usually clunking
I really want another e-Bike build, I really enjoyed the Chinese build! Keep up the great work!
More to come!
Cheers Rob. Comprehensive review. As a '21 rail 9 owner (still loving it by the way...call it my rolls royce with the stability and confidence you talk about) I have a couple of pedantic queries about 2 points you raised. On my rail 9 when you remove the display unit you have no way to turn on the motor. I noted that you said you could ride the 9.9 without however I wonder if that is restricted to motorfree riding? The other point about the app.....I use the bosch ebike connect app and I can sync my rides with strava after a bit of jiggerypokery with permissions etc so I would be surprised if this newer version could not do that?
Hi Tim. The new Bosch Smart allows you to turn on the bike / motor via the new handlebar remote. You can fully ride the bike exactly as before with all the motor support but without a display. The new Bosch Flow app is missing the ability to sync with Strava. I even tried exporting the GPX, sending it to my computer and uploading it to Strava via GPX, but it’s missing time stamp info in the GOX so Strava rejects it. Hopefully they’ll fix it soon! Cheers, Rob
@@RobRidesEMTB I read Bosch are adding support for strava and apple health very soon.
I freakin' love this bike....nice build! Hmmm "Buy Now"?
High-quality video!
Great Review, I have the new rail 5 coming in. Its not this beast, but definitely excited for it!
Got a rail 5 in mint(Miami green) on order, hoping it gets here soon
@@BerserkerNick did they give you a estimate of when its coming in?
@@Leetster they told me May 2022, ordered mine in July. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping the date doesn't get pushed back. My local shop owner had to wait a year for his rail 9.7
@@BerserkerNick Yeah, its unbelievable right now. I ordered on the smaller side because of the shipping date. Smaller is better than bigger so Im hoping it doesnt get pushed back! Hope your able to get yours in May!
great. what's the default range with this battery / bike?
my 2021 canyon neuron:on 8 defaults to 51 miles in trail mode (yamaha ep8) and the most I've done is around 41 miles.. :)
ok be totally honest which is better rail or yeti?
Hello, does the tire pressure appear on the Kiox 300 ? Bob says it can be read on the smarphone ... but I'm not reading my smarphone when riding...
Rob you need your EEEB chart back to put the bike rating on or a cool wall
Is the tyre wiz easy to remove if you have a flat out on the trails and need to use a tube ?
Pre ordered the 9.8 xt also...
What size were you riding? I have the opportunity to buy a XL but at 6’1” 34 inseam I’m wondering if the xl will feel to big.
Once again a great review Rob. Balanced and honest. However, yet another 'new' bike to replace an existing model - where do all the preloved go? And while conventional componentry can be endlessly services or replaced/upgraded; brakes, front fork, shock etc. what about the motors on ebikes? I have a conventional full sus bike that is 10 years old which apart from the frame is like 'Triggers broom'. Will my ebike motor last 10 years or will it need replacing? And if so, does the facility to do this exist today? I like your new/latest bike reviews but for those of us without a £12k budget how about a feature on keeping your existing ebike running? Just a thought. Keep up the good work!
Great points Steve. There will always be a stream of new bikes, much like cars, phones, laptops. Love it or loath it that's the world we live in. Preloved bikes go back to the brands.
The motors can be repaired, the best example of this is a guy in the UK called 'The Bearing Man'. He can offer solutions to motor issues out of warranty. And I'm sure that the brands will also work out an out of warranty replacement program.
I'm totally conscious of the price of some of the bikes. I do try and balance this with cheaper options and make videos on them, such as DIY ebikes, Decathlon Stylus, and DIY ebike conversion kits.
When brands release new bikes they (understandably) always want to send the best version they can of their product, hence the 12K price tag here. The new model can actually be had for a "cheaper" £8250. Still a lot of cash, but not £12K.
Cheers for your feedback,
Rob.
The Chinese bafang motors can do 10000km with a couple of basic regrease services so surely these European Bosch can so that.
how are the climbing properties? Does the front wheel stay on the ground for a long time?
Just purchased a Trek powerfly, I'm hoping to max out its capability
So Rob, this or the S-Works Turbo Levo or Yeti 160E?
2023 bike will it be much the same as this, will it come out in first few months of 2023 ?
Another fantastic review Rob 👌 do you think you will be reviewing the new Giant Reign E+?
Yes that is coming soon I have the bike now 👍
Please tell me where I can find a Rail 7 … can’t find one ANYWHERE! Trek rep say Spring of 2023!! Really?!…. And great review btw… your review helped me decide …
I miss my rail 7 , easy pedaling even with the motor off
Really detailed and insightful reviews Rob, thank you. A perhaps odd proposition but I've no actual interest in eMTB, or Bikes in general. I am a Landscape Photographer however and I have considered them as a potentially great way to get from a car park to my shooting location, which could be somewhere inside a forest, down by a lake, up the side of a mountain or a deserted beach. Depending the distance to my shoot location I’d usually hike with between 10 and 15kg of gear. Also, I’m not looking to build up any kind of endurance here, and so would like to bike to do most of the work :) Would an eMTB work in this situation?
Definitely! Jon (videographer) uses the ebike to do exactly what you’re describing. Would make travelling with kit so much easier n
@@RobRidesEMTB Thanks for responding Rob, I might see if I can rent one out for a day and see how I get on :)
Curious about a mullet setup with the new 2022 rail carbon?
Did you happen to ride it with a 27.5 rear Rob?
Hi Jason, not yet - I like the 29/29 so far!
ROB Hows it compare to levo Gen 3?,?
What about the new POLE VOIMA, waiting on mine…. How bout you ?
Have you ever tested the Orange phaze or Charger?
When is this frame and the 750 battery comming to Fail 5 ? Wanna start "cheep" and upgrade as i go
its ALL Robs Fault that one of these is halfway to my house on a UPS truck Now, It will be replacing my 21 rail 9.9
Sorry 'bout that. But enjoy it!!
REALLY ! How did you do that ??? I have been waiting for a 2021 9.8 XT that never materialized since October 2020 and I have now been "upgraded" to a 2022 (one of these ;)) for which I will have to wait (hopefully) till April. And yours is on the delivery truck!!! That's magic! So happy for you, enjoy it and say thanks to Santa!
You're the same build/height as me, what trousers are those? Looking for some that'll still enable kneepads but get somewhere near the end of my +35" inside leg.
Pretty sure they are called Fox Defend. I'm 6'3" and they are a size 36 but the leg could be a little longer..
I’m looking at the Trek Rail 7 or a Giant Trance X E+ 1. Really struggling to decide between the two. Keen to hear if anyone reading this has an opinion? Cheers 😊
What is better this or the giant you say you love the giant bikes? 👍🏻
Fast with a smooth ride
Giant Reign 2022 vs Trek Rail?
Insane world with insane prices
Nice video
How does it compare to the Orbea Rise?
Dream bike now 👏😆
Well glad I got the same motor and power on my much cheaper Rail 5 and never run out of the 625WH battery yet. All the rest is very expensive bells, whistles and marginal upgrades which would appeal if not so expensive. Nice review though! But how long before Trek 'upgrades' again rendering even this bike obsolete? And when I say upgrades I mean you have to buy a new bike to benefit!
The Rail 5 is still very very good!
@@RobRidesEMTB Yes it is and mine was pre increase price £4150. However VERY good value was the Giant Stance E+ 2 I got for my wife. Had a Rail 5 on order for her at £4600 but she was never happy about us paying that much. Meantime the Giant came available so we got that.
Good points:
The price £3299 and with 4yrs 0% finance!
Very quiet motor.
5 power settings (configurable by app.) and one adaptive mode.
6A charger with a 60% setting for 'storage'
Downsides:
Suspension travel only 130/120
500wh battery.
Narrower tyres (2.4).
No dropper post.
Only 10 speed.
No controller display, only led's
However none of the above is a problem to wifey as she will never do the tougher stuff I do. She still had 2 bar left after doing 47 miles Whitby to Scarborough and back and she would never have cycled 47 miles on her manual mtb!
Damn I got all excited thinking this would be your Orbea Rise carbon v alloy comparison video!
Hi Rob, i realize this video is a few months old now have there been any updates to the apps?
Yes, see my latest video on Bosch!