2021 Trek Rail Review - A Mighty Performer
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- Trek Rail is one of, it not the best handling all round electric mountain bike out there right now. Whilst its not got all the features and integration of some of its competitors, it more than makes up for that in the way it rides. Original bike was the Trek Rail 5 and I had a few parts already to upgrade the bike.
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Rail is a great bike, in a world of increasing prices Trek still list the Rail 7 at £5500 / $6499, which looks like a great buy - and one that can be upgraded as you need to.
My experience has been that the trek rail is a train wreck. It makes fantastic first impressions but for medium to long term owners it has a laundry list of issues. Poor battery mount that is simply due to very crap engineering, a weak frame destroying aluminium bolt on the lower shock mount and paint that scratches if you look at it are just some of the failings. Trek's non emtb bikes are great. I agree that it "looks" like a great buy, has good specs, good value and rides well. But my sympathies to anyone who buys one. For their emtb bikes treks marketing is much better than their product.
Can you please write something about that front light. I have been looking for something that works with the bosch system on my rail 5.
@@Kevin_Aus what ebike you will choose in 2021?
@@Kevin_Aus mines 10 months old and been running pretty good to be fair.
@@Kevin_Aus I agree with you. We bought my wife a Rail 7 in 2020. In the 1200 miles she has ridden it the rear axle came loose a few times. The motor mount bolts all came loose. One of the bash guard bolts fell out. Most of the small screws around the battery area came loose. One of the chain guide bolts fell out first ride. The chain broke second ride. The stock tires are laggy and noisy on pavement and didn't work well on dirt. I wish someone would make a key bypass too. It's annoying.
But..once things are tightened and tires are changed the bike works really good. It just requires more attention. She loves the stability and how it handles.
In comparison I bought a Levo for myself a couple of months later. After 1300 much harder miles my handgrips are worn out. That's it.
Had my rail 7 since Xmas & 450 ks. Superb equipment.
Certainly can perform above my skill level at 60yo, but having ridden bikes for 50 years, I can't remember being this thrilled since our shared, fully knitted out 1971 Dragster, with horn, blinkers, lights, etc
@5:32 I agree with the handling comment in my review a year ago I said that... you just confirmed it as well. The Rail really made an impression on me.
Just love your reviews. And it looks like there are lots of us...
Thank you!
I have over 2650 miles on my 2021 Rail 5, in all kinds of conditions,and I check bolts, screws, tensions, and adjustments before rides. Greatest bike I have ever ridden, I would buy it all over again.
Thanks Rob.
Love watching your vids. 👍🏼
Tall riders always give the best long term reviews 😀.
Great vid Rob and fingers crossed, Trek will use your review as feedback 👍🏿
Cheers Rob for the footage. Looks a good bike,,, a love my cube stereo 👌😀
Great Review Rob. This one came across as very sincere and down to earth. In reality there were no negatives IMO. Keep up[ the good work.! The review proved you can take a bike and make it better or personalize it rather than buy a new bike which in today's climate is almost impossible anyway.
I pre-ordered the new Trek Rail 2022 model a few weeks ago 🤔
Keep up the good work Rob!
That is a really good tip about the rims! Definitely going to be my next upgrade
Great update Rob, thanks
Very comprehensive review
Just purchased my first E bike...can't wait to hit the trails
well done Rob, I love mine, But still fell for the 22
Great update. Definitely considering this bike
Good choice!
I have a Rail 7 (in red/black) and it's a beast uphill and downhill. I ride it 3-4 times a week and get a great workout. Also, I've never received so many compliments on a bike before! I'm hoping the bike will last a long time (I've had it 6 months).
Great review of the “Trek Rail Rob” 😂
Really enjoying my Rail 9.8
Love my Rail 5, 2500 kms on it now and I'm going to start to upgrade some bits👍
I have the Trek rail 9, I can't really fault it tbh. Long trails and bike park use, its taken a beating and not let me down yet, fantastic bike, I'm so glad I purchased it after originally wanting a levo and they were sold out. I would recommend the trek rail to anyone :)
awesome review Rob, just picked-up a 2022(because of an extra battery for t long rides) out here in NZ. your comments really make sense to me as a biker/ love yr upgrades but t basic bike has me excited as exceeding my usual abilities ..more confidence +speed for sure. gives me a little insight as to why some r always pursuing t next greatest thing... but I agree w your comments of diminishing returns w new (highly expensive kit, dream-time for t average guy/girl. keep it up
Kept my eye on this build given that I've got the same spec 5
Great review! Planning to buy a rail my self. Question though. Are the upgrades you make like specifically the fork, ebike rated fork? Or just normal fork. Thanks
i bought the rail 9.8 xt and stripped it all down and replaced in with all XTR and fox suspension including r
2022 rear fox coilover its pretty serious.
Really enjoying this Trek 'long-term' ride report. LOVE the slo-mo suspension travel shots @2:46. I didn't miss at all the cliche music overlay riding footage. Your smooth voice and content discussing upgrades and competitive options were so much more helpful! As a buyer on the fence planning my purchase, all such comparo info helps. [NOTE to mfgr: I do wish Bosch would improve its monochrome Intuvia display with a battery percentage and leave it at that. Ebike displays trying to compete with celphone tech is a losing battle - the phones will always be ahead! And bright colour displays with unnecessary complexity we don't really need, do we? I want to *ride* the ebike-not *read* it! Happy trails, Rob~~~
Love my Rail 7 Rob. I find the key useful to stop the theft of my bike. If you don’t have both the key and the battery then the bike is useless. I get home, remove the battery and charge it inside. I also store the key separate from the battery and bike. I am your height 6 foot 2 and went for the large size. The upgrade to 170mm spring on the Yari has made the ride so much sweeter. Also found someone who upgraded their Rail 9 to a coil and bought their rear shock. The ride is now sweet as and I still have the upgrade to the Lyric damper to go for just a few hundred bucks. Thanks so much Rob for sharing your Rail upgrades with us.
What type of range are getting on emtb mode on trails
@@kb4822 I get around 50 to 60 kms with 1000 to 1500m of elevation
Hi Rob. Nice review! I can’t decide between the Jam2 6.9 and the Rail 7. I want something that turns well and more flickable. What are your thoughts?
Hey Rob. I think the break hose is a bit short 😊 (14:30). Great bike and great review 👍
I love my rail and have put many similar upgrades like you have …. Rattles iver rough ground and I actually love the rib system as it means I can bring my battery inside instead of the whole bike
Keep the key, put it on your car key ring simple, i hate messing with and trying to find Allen keys, and also if you lock your bike somewhere i want that battery locked with a key lock, i wouldn't want to come back and find the £800-£1200 battery is missing, also a lock weight verses Allen bolt isn't going to be much difference anyway as it still needs the retaining internal bracket both ends to hold the battery in place, and i like to take my battery indoors to charge in the warmth of a house, and one turn of a key is far easier then hunting for a Allen key then having to turn and turn it several times to get the battery out and trying to align the bolt thread back in when you want to put the battery back in, no thanks, love your review though otherwise great !
I love my RAIL 5! A few odd things about mine, I don't need the key to install the battery, but do to remove it. My first bike needed the key to install it, weird. I think of your videos every time I remove it, lol. Maybe they half listened to you. My bike came with Schwalbe Nobby Nic tires for some odd reason, which work well. I WANT those wheels on your bike, but above my retired pay grade,
After getting my Rail 7 about 9mths ago, I changed to a custom mullet wheelset (Hope Pro4 with DT Swiss EX511), with 2.5" Maxxis Aggressor tyres. Made the bike feel more playful and "flickable" around the corners. Can't say I've noticed any increase of pedal strike. Also switched out the rear shock to a DVO Jade X coil. Much tastier! My previous bike was a Trek LT7 with the Purion controller. New bike came with the Kiox controller and I personally think it's a much better system. Having it mounted on the top tube behind the headset is much better. Always felt the bar mount was too vulnerable to damage. Overall, a really fun bike to ride.
enjoyed your review, mirrors my experience getting off a Focus Jam2 27.5 (1st ebike) onto a 2022 Trek Rail 7 29’er, surprised me very pleasantly with how much faster I went without feeling overwhelmed on tech terrain out here in NZ. well done Trek. tire change next.
Fantastic little bike!!
looks class with those forks
Love my Rail 9.7 and done around 2000 miles on it now but totally agree about the RIB system. Took mine to my bike shop which is 40 mins drive and forgot the key. Main issue I have had is power going on and off usually when going through the full travel. LBS said it might be that the bottom plastic end cap for the battery has worn down a couple of mm from mud ingress. Waiting for a new cap and we’ll see. If so it’s a £9 part that’s easy to replace so no big deal but certainly worth checking before messing with aligning the brackets. It would be great if Trek released a bracket where you can use an Allen key, they released the bracket to connect the 2 end assemblies and stop battery rattle after the I got mine.
I wish I had one of these growing up!
nice long-term review, Rob 😁. Keen to hear which you think you prefer - your DIY home-built e-bike or this as an off-the-shelf product? Is there much difference between the performance of the power plant and ergonomics of the frame geometry? And if there is, does it warrant the price difference?
I’ve had a Rail 9 on order since June 2020 in Aus. Meant to be coming end of Nov. Cant wait.
Ha, me too! But I'm expecting it this month - I'd better see if the date has slipped!
Trek Aus told me the bikes are not even on the water yet :(
@@OneBitStream I'm mates with a Trek dealer and they said they only know 100% about 3 weeks before its due. I got told the end of November by two different dealers so they wouldn't be on the water until the first week of November. It could change tho.
@@tgsparkyoriginal sounds about right. I ultimately decided to buy a Focus Jam2 6.9 as they are due end of this month.
@@OneBitStream I know how you feel. I was keen on the Sam 6.9 but I’m getting the Rail for $1500 off and almost 2kg less is a deal breaker
Had mine for over 18 months and 5000 miles.
Awesome bike 🤟
I heard it wants to go back to the alps!
@@RobRidesEMTB The Dolomites maybe 😁
Hi Rob, great vidéo 👍🏽 what is your headlight model please?
Hey rob good vid what are yr settings on the 38?
Rob, great review and confirms my choice of a Rail 9.7 last year. I had nothing to compare it to and test rides were few and far between. I bored myself (nearly) to death with reviews and bought mine from Rutland. I bought my partner a Cube Stereo on the basis that she tended already to get off and push. Her Stereo is way heavier than mine to heft around which both being carbon seems odd. Both bikes were available at the time and decent prices (£4,500 and £4,000 respectively). They suit us fine overall but the rear mech pivot is, frankly, disgraceful being sloppy out of the box. Mine recently dropped a jockey wheel suffering damage to the mech and not easy to replace. Tip: check the jockey wheel axles because despite locktite they can come undone. I got the world’s last new mech on line but cobbled the old one together in the meantime. I quite like the battery arrangement and only having one bike the key isn’t an issue. On the negative side to swap a battery isn’t easy. The motor was noisy on the Trek initially but quietened down after around 50km. The Cube was quieter despite the same Bosch motor. Both rattle on bumpy downhills.
Overall, great bike and not looking to change much.
Hi Rob, for somebody fairly new to trail riding with a light sprinkling of downhill, I'm finding my Trek Marlin 5 very limited at trail centers such as BikeGlenlivet. Would the rail 5 be a good starter E-MTB as a platform for later upgrades as my skills increase? Is there any difference between the 5 and 7 in terms of frame or is it just front/rear shocks among a few other luxuries?
Did you de-restricted the bike Rob? does that make a bike big difference in riding? Not only top speed.
Going for my first e-bike, I've been looking to the Trek Rail 9 GX 2022, Whyte E-150 RS V2 2022, Canyon Spectral On CF7 or something more pure enduro oriented like the new Giant Reign E+2 MX 2022, although the RIB system on the Trek makes it a great candidate as I will need to charge the battery indoors.
From this list which would you go for? Would you recommend something else?
Cheers
Great review and great info Rob. Give us an update on your thoughts of the schwalbe’s. Can’t wait for my 9 to arrive. Latest date is November 2nd🤞🏻
I guarantee you won't be disappointed as long as the spec isn't changed- zeb/ and through valve rear shock. That's the bike I wanted but went for the seven because I didn't have to wait long, enjoy bud, only thing shite with the trek is the little charging cover on frame, take your battery indoors to charge.
I've had the same problem with my rear shock ,the thread striped ,am now waiting for a new shock to arrive , under warranty 👍
Hi rob , just ordered a 2022 trek rail 5 from mtbmonster after years of wanting an emtb 😃. How does the bike ride stock and what do you think needs upgrading first . I’m probably a similar rider to you mostly ride flat trails and bike parks as that’s all a have near by, does it jump well . Thanks
how often do you need to adjust the gears are they easy to adjust ? i swaped my rockshox deluxe rt for the dpx 2 and iv noticed my steering a bit more twitchy.
Great looking bike.
Great video 👍🏻 the decal mismatch on the wheels are messing with my OCD 🙈
Hi Rob got my rail 9.7 down to 22.2 kg size L. Carbon cranks and bar, Lyrik upgrade, spank 359 wheels, Magic marys, xt groupset, one up dropper/pedals. Going to add 500wh battery and get it to 21.5 kg. It could be 20.8 with the stock tires and carbon rims. For the haters.... im crocked 'back fusion'
Cracking review once again. The Rail 5 was one of my two choices and I even put a deposit down on one but unfortunately the delivery date kept slipping so I went with my other choice (another recommended bike by you) the Focus Jam2. I went for the entry level for the personal upgrade choices. I would love to see a “bang for buck” comparison video on these two bikes Rob! Ebikes are so expensive but these two are by far the best entry level ebikes for new ebike riders!
I'd go on the 7 is all the way better than 5 and you won't need to upgrade it
@@nicolapellegrino1072 I would agree with you if I was happy to buy a bike and not touch anything for the duration of ownership but a lot of people (including me) like to put personal preference parts on a bike and you just can’t get that with a stock bike.
@@chrisjones6699 well it is possible even on "mid models" like 7 and you're not forced to spend lots of money because stock quality of components is too cheap... for example on rail 5 if you want to improve the fork you have to swap with a better one because on 35 you cannot upgrade the damper, on yari you can... brakes are better on 7 transmission is better (SX Sram against XT Shimano) there's a lot to improve and lots of money to spend to do it... it doesn't wort the pain absolutely.
@@nicolapellegrino1072 I agree to a certain extent but disagree on some. Budget components on ebikes are usually more durable so you see quite a lot of people downgrading certain components like derailleurs, cassettes etc. Once my slx components give out, I’ll be getting the new 10sp shimano link glide system. Half the price of the xt stuff and lasts 3 times longer. The components that don’t wear out that a worth upgrading on budget bikes are front and rear suspension, dropper post, wheels, handlebars etc. Even on mid level bikes, these parts are still worth changing out. Lyrik to Zeb for example.
@@chrisjones6699 I simply suggest you to keep slx and instead of changing the transmission for linkglide simple install a 12 speed deore cassette, it'll last much longer... the fact linkglide 10 lasts three times is not still tested so we haven't the proof... that's interesting indeed but I'll keep my xt with deore cassette shifts flawlessly and I have to change only the chain for 30 euros when reach 0.5 wear... budget components depends on what.. on rail 5 you have a SX sram that's not famous as the most reliable groupset on the market... the tektro brakes are underpowered... anyway that's my opinion.
I personally love the key. You could put the key in with your Allen key set in the top tube with strong elastic maybe. 🤔
Did you try a coil rear shock? I have a 9.9xt and wasnt too happy with the thru-shaft ultimate shock. I went with a Cane Creek Kitsuma 60mm stroke and after making lots of adjustments, I really like it a lot! I tried a progressive coil but I like the straight rate better.
totally agree with your thoughts on the key mechanism. My plan is to make a bracket to eliminate it like you've shown.
For those still running the Zeb fork, I highly recommend the Push Industries HC97 damper. The fork feels incredible over chunky terrain now.
I'm also running 2.4 Maxxis DHRII rear and 2.5 Assegai front. Great tires here in the Northeast USA
Rib battery system is a nightmare, even with two very tight security velcro straps on frame to keep it from disconnecting and shorting the power. With battery alignment bracket plate and two very tight velcro straps, doesn’t cut out, but still rattles more than I care for in the rough at least. Lower shock pivot bearings wear fast too due to excessive vertical load on tiny bearings that see very little rotation. Drive side main pivot and ABP bearing roasted after a season as well, despite regular cleaning and no wet riding. Despite all of this, the bike does ride and handle great on most everything even though the 50 lb heft (carbon 9.7). Please Trek, get rid of the RIB system since more problems than it is worth
Hey Rob Rides Emtb! Bosch kept the controller on top of the handlebar even though it's the most vulnerable position it could be in! Shimano put the shifter under the bar in the late 80s to protect them from crash damages! Bosch is not a right to repair friendly company at all because they won't sell internal motor parts to the aftermarket rebuilding shops or the public! They want worn motors to be tossed into landfills because they make more selling new motors! Maybe they just want more broken controllers so they sell more replacements! Ride ride ride!
Good vid rob but my trek rail 7 I've not changed anything yet although I've got the through valve shock from the rail 9 to go on and I will upgrade the fork when funds permit but as standard it rocks and so reliable.
I actually really like that the battery is easily removable, it's a feature you don't think about until you don't have it. Want to lift the bike onto the roof of a car or somewhere high? Remove battery to shed a good deal of weight. Want to store the bike in a cold garage during the winter? Or ride during the winter? Remove the battery and charge it inside in a warm environment like you should. Want to wash the bike down with a hose? Why not remove the battery first, just to be on the safe side. Want to do super long rides in the mountains? Stick an extra battery in your backpack and easily slot it in. Or maybe do loops in turbo mode and leave a fresh battery at the parking lot? I've seen a lot of bikes go the route of permanent down-tube battery but I'll stick with an easily removable battery.
That’s why I still have my Commencal Meta Power with external battery 😀 Carrying the spare once in a while is not inconvenient as it’s light (2,6kg) and small.
I do quite like those bikes, but its just really heavy witch is why I love the pivot shuttle more
Hi Rob Question for you what would you prefer from your point of view out of the 2 following bikes.
Lapierre E-zesty 2021 or the Specialized Kenovo SL Comp, I would say these 2 bikes are pretty similar.
Can you make a video for different trek rail sizes and models on what rear shocks upgrades that would fit on those bikes? there's loads of questions unanswered going like: if RS super deluxe ultimate would fit on trek rail 5, 7 or 9, medium or large or would fox float x, x2 and dhx2 does as well? etc. Thanks!
Key is no problem. I keep one on my normal key ring, one in my riding bag and one in the car. I even ordered one online (from the key number) and collected it when I was the other side of the country. I was super cheap for a spar too.
The Carbon wheels are lighter but stiffer than the aluminum ones. Don’t you get tired sooner from the pressure in you arms? Also, Fox has released the replacement of the DPX2, the Fox Float X, a bit larger than the Dpx2, and it is going to be common shock to a lot of 2022 bikes(Yeti 160E, Haibike AllMtn 10 etc)
hey Rob!
why dont you just ducktape the battery key anywhere on the bike?
I have a 2021 rail 9 with DVO coil shock but I still want to try a YT Decoy, any thoughts on the Decoy vs Rail
Is the front LED light wired into the bike battery? Is this a modification you would recommend?
Yes. It’s a great option, I have a bike light video I’m working on.
hey Rob any idea if i can run a coil shock on the Haibike xduro all mtn 3.0 i have the same one as you in the blue but want to put a fox coil shock on any help would be class cheers mate
The Domainee fork on the Rail 7 is really good for a what’s supposed to be a mid-range fork.
Love the ' Bloke ' approach to doing the job.
Don't wash the bike .
Don't remove back wheel fully .
Don't move chain out the way .
Don't clean out motor cover torq bolt heads .
Don't clean out motor electrics.
Don't read instructions..
Just put it in .
Don't check for clearance on electric wires.
Bolt cover back on .
Put back wheel in.
It works .
Popping mine in this afternoon 😉😉✌
Don't clean cover .
Once tried for nearly 5 min to get friends battery in his Rail5 before thinking to use the key! Surprise!
Maybe you could show the DIY allen key think?
I'd like the battery key to integrate an ignition switch position, or something that electrically locks the crank/motor so it can't be pedalled away. Number of times i've stopped at those trail cafes and everyone stood in the queue nervously glancing at their unlocked bikes. I've seen people stood in the queue clutching their bikes in fear.
I have a 230x60 shock on my rail, adding about 6mm of rear travel. It's basically unnoticeable in both the positives and negatives you described in the review when you were talking about your dpx2. I guess a 62.5 stroke might just be too big for the rail!
Yeah it’s not a biggie, just something to be aware of. Bike tends to sit and ride a little further into it’s travel with longer stroke shocks.
Try adding an extra token in the back shock. It will help with the sag issue.
What is your height and which size you went for? Also amy advice on sizing?
Talk about value, I am waiting for my yt decoy mx core 2. Specs and geo look spot on for me, hope so. Would love to demo a rail, I have heard alot of good things.
Purion is a bit of a nightmare with Shimano's latest brakes with the extra brace back to the bars, made placement rubbish. I upgraded my (best buy!) Rail 7 to Kiox. The controller isn't a patch on other system manufacturers solutions but I'm happy overall with the upgrade.
Interesting about putting more travel on the bike 170 fork 162 rear. You say you prefer 160 fork and the rear 160 unbalanced the bike.
On your new Rail you have gone 170 fork and around 165 on the rear?
How does it work on the new rail then?
Is the alloy still worth getting or is it showing its age now?
What strong but lightweight alloy rim would you recommend for another Trek Rail 5 owner, like me?
Hi Rob I would be interested in hearing a longer term review of a Rail 7, as standard, in winter wet conditions as we have here in the Lake District more often then we would like.
Also, most reviewers when they review bikes want to change tyres, suspension, brakes, wheels, blah blah blah but I can't help wondering what's in the manufacturer's minds when they set up their bikes. Are they just trying to reach price points or are they really interested in the performance of the bikes in each price range? Most of us just ride the standard bikes and only change things when the need arises.
I enjoy your reviews especially when you put standard bikes head-to-head such as the hill climb review.
Thank you.
Stuart
Hey rob like your content and the way you perform 🙂. I’m in the market in getting my first e bike and I’m going with specialized the levo comp 2021 with the shimano drive train. What are your thoughts? Should I wait for the 2022 version since I would like to have the 2.2 brose motor and the double lip to keep the charging port dry.
I'm between a Rail 7 and Levo Comp 2022. I am trying to justify the $1000 more price of the Levo. I'd say it's in the better suspension of the Levo. The SLX seemed nice on my test ride of the 2021...I'd wanna switch to GX AXS later. But I've decided if Levo I'll wait for 2022 for the new motor and new TCU. If Rail I'll maybe upgrade to ZEB fork later on and just ride it until the thing dies haha. My trails here in Midwest, USA aren't gnarly really.
Hi man, what happened to that Vitus DYI e-bike that u was going to present?!
It’s coming!
i have a rail 7 in miami green. love the color btw.
changes:
maxxis minion dhf/dhr
magura 220mm MDR-P front and rear
780mm sq lab bar with 25mm rise and 16‘ backsweep
sqlab stem 80x 35mm +6‘ angle
elite flow lock on 2.1 grips
venec lite saddle
kmc e12 chain (works perfectly with shimano)
now i‘m looking for 160mm zeb ultimate in grey and öhlins ttx22 damper.
there is one downside to my bike:
noises…
clicking noise in the area of the fork and creaking noises in the area of the cranks.
Nice mods. Keep the headset cleaned and regreased and also worth taking out the motor bolts / regreasing etc (making sure to torque everything back to proper specs)
What kinda range are you getting on emtb mode
Hi i have one trek rail 9.5 and i wanna if i can put one dp x2 fox suspencion . thanks Our any fox suspencion i can put on my bike preferecen kashima .
Yes yes yes all great stuff. But long into the future when my grand children ask why grandad is always staring off into space and seeming so absent, they would never understand the PTSD inducing aesthetics that only a Bosch powered mtb cockpit is able to achieve.
9/10 for originality but you murdered the execution.
…however I do agree that the cockpit is ugly.
Hiya Rob. I'm looking some advice. I'm in between sizes large an xtra large. I'm 6 foot 2. my previous trek slash was large an it felt great. should I go large or xl in a rail?
Monty, I’m the same height and went the large. I changed the handlebars to carbon with a 40mm rise and it is the perfect fit. I would go the large!
I am same height and went XL. Bike feels magic and the height and length feel really confidence inspiring. Tough call but i am happy with my choice :)
wich are the other 2/3 best handling bikes ? Levo ? is the Orbea Rise in there ? Levo SL, Kenevo ?
Whyte E150. Only minor issue is the battery removal. th-cam.com/video/RDvwI34MZrc/w-d-xo.html
US model RAIL 5 has the 500 watt battery, can you use a 625W battery in a RAIL 5 with 500W one, are they interchangeable?
❤️my stock 9.7….climbs anything and everything like a goat…
Test rode the 9.7 and aesthetically it just makes the "aluminium "said in English accent" frame model look kind of bad. The carbon while expensive is just so much more attractive to my eyes. Also tested it back to back against a Levo with the Brose and it just seemed to have another level of assist than the Levo. Since I am coming off an SL and wanting more oomf that was more appealing to me. Also the Brose has had more reliability issues I hear. Wish I could take them both out to the trails to test but thats not possible. Lucky to get any good bike in the right size right now. The 9.7 with carbon frame is $7550 USD now in 2022.
“Huh… Me too”, said the DPX2
Batteries are over £500. Most people will want to use their ebikes to go to the shops etc. too and need lock up it . We need keys on batteries that cost so much.
Wheres the follow up video on the CYC Stealth X1 bike you built? its been three weeks already since you did the first video on it that was all teaser.
It’s coming! We need to shoot one more day.
I’ll second, really interested in your take!
Rob, isnt the brake hose bent a bit too much when fully compressed on the rear side?
No it’s fine. Just!
Said exactly the same 2 min ago! Well spotted 🤙🏻
Actually now I just had another look, I’ll add a bit more slack to it! Yeah it looks a bit tight at full compression 👍👍
@@RobRidesEMTB you can reroute the brake hose going back into the frame at the lower pivot point so it goes straight in and don't cross. If you have some spare time is definitely a idea to do as it puts less strain on the brake hose
Hi Rob, i have a rail 5, replaced the front forks to fox 36's. I want to change the rear shock what would you recommend and what size do i need please.
Hi John, you need a 230x57.5 shock size (that's the same as stock) although Im using a 230x62.5 on my XL frame and that gives a bit more travel. Cheers, Rob.
@@RobRidesEMTB Thanks Rod
Hi Rod, great review. I am 183 cm, would a Rail 7 XL be to long for me.
I’m 181cm and on a large. Sometimes I feel that the bike is too small for me. Wish I could have ridden the xl first
@@wh909 I'm 179cm with long arm span and just picked up a XL Rail 7. It was a bargain, so I'm going to try and make it work.
Anyone know how long the motor and battery lasts on these?
nice review, shame you spent loads to get it upto scratch...
i love trek bikes - got my first mtb back in 1991 which was a trek 950 :)
but i looked at the powerfly 4 back in february (£3350) and walked away underwhelmed... components, wheels, forks etc were shockingly bad and i wondered if I'd be nable to afford a half decent one... then looked online and bout a canyon Neuron:ON 8 for 4 grand...and it's been flawless in the 1400 miles I've covered since March...no chains stretch or anything, and not upgraded anything - except for going tubeless...
the only downside is the matt paintwork - chips far too easily...