I mean, the original PS4 version does have a physical release. And there are a few places other than Steam where you can still buy the original PC version, though it still has Steam DRM.
If it's the same experience but better then what's wrong with it also seriously if you care about graphics that much in a JRPG, consider yourself an annoying elitist, it will not make that much of a difference when the focus isn't on graphics but on what is actually happening. I can understand wanting stuff to look good but the difference between grass isn't going to make the game a worse or even bad game. Yes I will admit that it does make a difference in how stuff feels but are a pieces of foliage vs extra content really a dealbreaker. I will admit that bad graphics when there obviously was room in the budget doesn't feel right but it's a story focused game. This was a rant and what I'm about to say may contradict what I've just now said. I understand that people want good graphics, and I don't blame them for it, but my main point is that complaining about slightly worse graphics in a game makes no sense imo. you shouldn't be looking at the ground you should be looking at the story.
@@dreamhunter5011 It is a bit of a trade-off, though, as covered in the video. Some people might prefer to trade the improved resolution and framerate, along with the extra content, for the original higher-poly character models and more advanced lighting.
notable about it, switching from 3D to 2D gameplay is as easy as switching from the analog stick to the Dpad and changing which screen you're looking at. It will even display text on whichever screen you played on last
Yup we were robbed, they even announced it was going to be released in the west. Than back out on it, which is sad cause that was the version I wanted most. I think they backed out on the western release a few months before the orignal release of the game.
Another small addition that version S has is that there is now more combat dialogue between the party, just little snippets of chatter back and forth as different battle situations occur. For example, if another character takes a ton of damage, Erik asks them "Are you alright?!" It's a tiny change but I like how it makes battles feel more eventful and meaningful.
@@FunLobsterFacts Thanks! I did hear that the Switch version had pleeenty of slow downs, so I'm going to play it on Xbox Game Pass. Thanks for the clarification tho!
I played through S on the Switch without having played or seen the game on PC or more powerful consoles and I honestly had no problem with the image quality. It was a bit soft but it looks good enough and the frame rate is rock solid with zero noticeable dips or hiccups in my 80 hours of playing it.
Obviously the added content is more important than the diminished visuals but that's not the real question. The real question is: why do we even have to choose? On the Switch it makes sense because of the hardware limitations, not so much on the PC or consoles. Saying the new version was developed for the Switch is a cop-out since things like higher resolution textures or lighting quality aren't anything the newer version of UE couldn't handle on those other platforms. It's just stuff they didn't bother to put back in. This isn't a free update, it's a stand-alone game sold for 40€. The least they could do is match the visual fidelity of the original release. There is no reason it couldn't be done, it's just a matter of cutting costs. We shouldn't have to choose between visuals and features.
@@poika22 I feel like sometimes its very easy for people like us who just play games and don't necessarily make them for a living to say things like this. There could definitely be some technical limitations or just design decisions that inhibited their ability to reuse the older assets when porting S to the more powerful platforms. For me, JRPGs and especially Dragon Quest games have never really been about exploring the limits of graphical fidelity or technical achievement. These types of games are best enjoyed with the story and the characters and that is where DQXI excels in my opinion.
@@dcarpenter85 I know a thing or two about software development. There definitely can be reasons that make reusing the older assets more complicated than simply copy-pasting them in. There aren't reasons that make it unattainable for a company the size of Square Enix. Like I said, it's a matter of cutting costs. It definitely could be done, in the most extreme case they could've remade those assets from the group up if that's what they wanted to do. I doubt it would have been necessary, but it could've been done if they wanted to. They have the resources to do it. Instead they chose to go the cheapest route, porting it from the Switch with minimal changes. You're free to like the characters and the story and everything else, but none of those things would've been negatively impacted by a better technical execution of the re-release. I'm not saying the game is ruined, just that Square should rightly be criticized for their decision to penny-pinch this release.
@@poika22 Yep, I can't agree more, if you're going to port a game to PC / PS4/ XBOX and it's called the DEFINITIVE edition then there's no reason it should look worse than the original version of the game on each respective platform, if anything it should actually look better. We have improved graphics in games as the generations go on because graphics / aesthetics are a big component to games, else game consoles would of stopped at the PS3 / 360, because realistically both of those consoles are powerful enough to make any game you want. But we don't do that because everyone knows its important. I'll give an example, if Ghost Of Tsushima had a PS3 version, hypothetically and it was heavily downgraded in visuals, it would ruin the overall atmosphere / immersion / experience of the game. It just wouldn't be the same experience on PS3 as it is on PS4. Having said that, I did just buy the definitive edition on PC, I wanna play that extra content, but it IS annoying that I have to play a downgraded game graphically because SE was lazy.
Same here, I was soooo disappointed when they announced the 3DS version was not getting a release state side, I wanted that verson specifically over all the others. Perhaps one day a fan translation will happen and we can play it on 3ds.
That's why when I look for reviews, I don't look for ones like IGN, Kotaku, or any of the ones where it's obvious that they're being fake. Often times, it's the video with hardly any views.
@@yersolell654 A 35 minute video is a bit over the top regardless of the amount of content. And judging from the first minute, it is biased. I want to hear from gamers, not people who get paid to say great things.
@@octolockg5059 your opinion is definitely fair and the review is basically just a 35 minute video of praising a game like it is a perfect creation which is not what a review should do, it's more like a fan's perspective
@@yersolell654 The guy says in the first minute that DQ is his favorite video game franchise of all time. So of course it's biased. Get someone who's played a few here and there or someone who's knew to the franchise. Fresh perspective.
I always imagined that the musicians in the orchestra were big DQ fans (in some cases 2nd generation DQ fans!) who were thrilled to be a part of the DQ experience and were absolutely doing their best to make sure the symphonic track was a great addition to the game.
@@rainbowflash5937 I played through the entire thing not knowing this... I also played through the game not knowing there was DQ8 dlc. DQ8 is one of my favorite RPGs, so it both made me happy and crushed to hear this.
My first DQ was 9 on the DS and I loved it. Never played one since untill I saw 11S was on the switch and figured I could use the nostalgia dopamine. I have loved every bit of the 70+( and going) hours I've dumped into it. (Except for sailing encounters)
Played the normal-, aswell as the s version and im absolutely in love with this game. The s version is a bit better. Orchestrated music, cosmetic gear, got rid of the annoying target quest, more story that covers the background of the crewmates and the crack in the sky endgame mission with the most op item ever as a reward. + the tickling quests have a nice charm
At least the target quest gave you something to use the crossbow for, now it just gets in the way when trying to get a free hit on enemies. If they were going to get rid of the target quest, they could’ve at least also added an option to turn off the crossbow.
I always preffer to play the version with the most available content, so i don't really care for graphics (Even though the game still looks great in every version) Good video Austin, and thank you for correcting the little mistakes from your previous video on the game.
I agree though I am not buying it at any more that $15 as a owner of the other one but eveyone's problem isn't the bad graphics its how greedy and lazy they were
i've been waiting for the S version on pc for a while (dunno if there's gonna be one).. the lack of graphic is not a really concern since the content is massive and QoL features really smoothing the gameplay..
I played the whole 10 hour demo on switch. Then I went and finally installed my orignal steam copy and added the Orchestral OST mod. Much much more playable IMO. Since it's all still new to me, missing out on extra side content is no problem. 200 hour game already, ya know.
@@viquistzius4664 FFVII Remake has a turn based combat option, but the real time combat is awesome, I can’t imagine why someone would choose turn based over real time in that game
@@eddyrodriguez3865 I didn't play it in classic, I wanted to experience it the way they intended. And it really was awesome! So I probably left it out for those two reasons, not the intented way to play and not the way I played it. But yeah, can't wait for part 2!
You can play it in HD on Switch or even on Steam if you choose a lower resolution; but right now I don't see any reason to go back to HD when current platforms have better resolutions.
@@rafaelmontillaalvarez6272 Text? Yes. Voice acting? No, and it wasn't even available. Japan didn't get voice acting in *any* Dragon Quest game until Dragon Quest XI S.
@@jonespianist3189 ah yeah, thought u meant english voices were in the japanese version lol. Yeah there were no voices for feeling old school or somth. Only japanese text
IMO, even I wait the release on Xbox One to play it at 4K60 on my One X, the visual is not the main thing that import in a Dragon Quest, it's the OST, and now with the port of XI S we're going to have the orchetral ost on any version, and that is great !
Although it is a shame that the "definitive edition" of the game does not have the definitive graphical quality, all of the quality of life changes and the slew of extra content will make up for worse quality graphics. DQ11S is definitive in just about every other way and is worth playing over the original.
@NazarioCharlie It's a different system though according to modders. The updated unreal engine makes it tougher to do any modding of the graphics because its not the same system.
Would definitely play the 3DS version if it were available but as an aspiring streamer and a longtime Dragon Quest fan I think i'd like to pick up the PC version of DQXIS and this video was very helpful in pushing me to make a final decision. SO thank you for a concise and to the point video with plenty of information!
The funny part is it looks like S has better textures. Like, by far. And then worse everything else, heh. I do agree the lighting could be preferential but it looks more natural in vanilla.
Nah there is a looooot more that looks worse on S. Lighting, grass, polycount on models is a third of the OG version for some models, blurry textures, water, fire.. it goes on and on. It doesn't seem too big a deal at first until you really start actually comparing the more mid game area's.
played the switch one when it released and its definitely worth it. the game looks amazing and its nice being able to take it wherever if i need to whether im simply grinding while wasting time irl or playing docked in my bed. lovely game and i have no issues w it. if not switch might as well go for pc port
13:28 agreed, I went into it on Switch and loved it, I never really felt the graphics were poor or anything. Only after I beat the game did I really notice how good the game could’ve looked when I watched PS4 gameplay, but I still think S is the best version regardless.
Honestly, I had shied away from considering the S version because it just seemed like a lot of work to figure out if it was worth it, and your video cleared that out for me, so thanks!
Not gonna lie the lighting and models are really noticeable when directly compared but the content is the important part here and S brings a lot of content to the table. Plus, knowing modders, it won't be long until we get to see improvements on the graphic side on the PC. Even if it doesn't happen, content beats graphics any day. Great video, always helpful knowing what to expect.
True, but funnily enough, I actually think that the lighting on character models actually looks much better in the DE edition than the original. Don't like how it looks on everything else though. And obviously foilage is now way worse, unquestionably.
It can't be overstated how much of an improvement S is over the original. It also can't be overstated how gorgeous the original looks. It pains me to see a compromise be made. Curious why they decided to call the console version of S "The Definitive Edition," as almost zero improvements were made to take advantage of the beefier hardware.
Great comparison. I ended up owning both. I had the original on Steam, then bought the Definitive Edition for the extra content. It still looks really good, although the textures are downgraded. If someone doesn't own either, and wants to get a copy, I'd absolutely say get the Definitive version. The added content is MORE than worth it. EDIT: Someone mentioned the original was removed, so I guess that settles that.
My biggest disappointment was that the enemies weren’t animated in the 2D version. It would’ve been so nice had the enemies been animated like they were in DQ7.
While I love having a pc but I've yet to play a game where I don't have to install a mod or tweak settings in my cpu, gpu, and any other software that relates to anything that a game requires even down to audio software.
@@indefatigableargonaut What kind of games are you playing? I have around 100 PC games and only 2 require mods to run properly (Dark Souls 1 and NieR Automata) and I have very old games that shouldn't run or have a lot of conflict with newer hardware
Amazing video! Much appreciated on all these changes. Never has definite edition had so much fan service! I can’t believe you can switch to DQ VIII overworld music.
VIII is awesome as well. I'm sorta like you, except VIII was my first. Was the only one I played until XI. I was NOT disappointed by either of them haha
So, I bought DQ11s for my lapop, and I must say, even thought this isnt a high end laptop (around 1000 ish) it looks reallyy good. My roommate walked in before and said the graphics looked like on his 4k tv. So far I dont regret my decision at all!
I bought this on sale on Steam ages ago but never got around to playing it but when they announced that S was coming to Game Pass, I decided to just wait. The graphical quality is compromised but the qol updates seem worth it to just skip playing the original version I own. Thanks for putting together this comparison.
I mean Dragonquest is basically 80 percent of the Japanese economy if they did not do that Japan would have burned down a long time ago from Japanese fans outrage
its a wonderful toriyama-esque world of wonder and fantasy but people are loosing their shit about minuscule details like those gaps in graphical quality , I seriously feel negativity its killing gaming slowly
I agree. Difference is so freaking small. Just shut up and enjoy the massive content upgrade 🙄 I bought the original XI a long time ago and had to sell it for some extra scratch. Regretted it immediately, but now I'm stoked because it just means I won't feel like I wasted my money buying it again for all this cool shit
Yeah this 60fps 4k ready crap is annoying really 90% of the games don't have a proper story just shot and that's it 8-12 hours, dragon quest 100-120 great story I take that thank you very much.
I'll copy-paste this comment about DQ11's lighting:- The original game used Enlighten, which bakes better lighting at higher resolutions, with better Global Illumination and bounce, and has much less expensive realtime lighting support, Enlighten does exist for Nintendo Switch however it's rather costly, so square have opted to use standard unreal baked lightmaps for the Switch version, so the lighting looks very different. Source : www.reddit.com/r/dragonquest/comments/jmssyp/comparison_between_4k_pc_original_and_definitive/gay909w/
Thanks for the info, I was a bit doubtful if I should continue the Vanilla on PC or get the S on discount but I'm definitely going to keep playing the vanilla. ^^
It's a shame that they didn't bother to take the extra time to move the higher quality assets from the original 11 to 11S. I think the lack of the more advanced lighting makes the latter look a lot flatter. However, it's a testament to the Switch version that 11S still looks extremely good on Xbox and PS4.
I never knew the music was synthesized, it sounds so good. On the graphics, what floored me about Dragon Quest XI was seeing all the little knicks and cuts in Hendriks blade so long as the metal in the game is still so detailed I am fine with the changes.
The S version is such a big middle finger to everyone it shouldn't be full price to orginal owners. The orginal shouldn't be delisted and the graphics should be the same if not better
This was really helpful. The new content and music options sound nice as a console gamer, however paying less and having the better looking game is more my style especially as someone who doesn't mind the midi music. Thanks for helping me with this decision.
Started playing the demo over the weekend on Xbox Series X. Looks great at 60fps and loads really fast. The colours really pop due to HDR being added by Xbox series consoles' Auto HDR mode.
I was actually scheptical about the Definitive Edition looking worse because it's based on the Switch build, but today I played both the original on PS4 Pro and DE on Series X and man, there is a difference. Sure, DE has 60fps support on SX and all those extras, but man it does look a lot weaker than the original.
I have played thru both the original PS4 release and the new Switch version, and while the new content on the Switch version is nice, the graphical difference is jarring to say the least. It's far more noticeable in motion while playing them in person. The texture detail and dynamic lighting effects are the biggest changes, and the difference is pretty massive. Enough so that I greatly prefer the original PS4 release over the Switch version, even without the extra content. They also did away with one of my favorite features of the original PS4 version, First Person View mode. The graphics can be absolutely gorgeous in that game, and being able to zoom in on them whenever you want is really nice. The lighting effects in particular as light bounces off reflective surfaces such as floors and walls is particularly beautiful looking.
The upgrades and new options in the "S" versions are amazing, I dont know how could anyone prefer the old version. Just the new orchestral OST and the native 4K/60FPS is a drastical upgrade, but all the new content which means HOURS of gameplay is more than enough!
yeah it's still cool, but i like the og visuals, just more lush and dense it makes the environment feel less barren or budget in comparison to how it felt with the switch graphics
Nah.....don't have ps5. But it's cool to no need to rush buying it until they fix all the weird ass shit that's happening to it.....like system weird bugs if any....and also controller drift.
I started on the vanilla ps4 version and im finishing on the switch DS undocked, but i really don’t care much for fps and im happy with anything above 720p. The switch oled make the game looks anew 😍 and im buying the def S ps4 version just to continue to support the game.
@@The2808erik im playing it on ps4 not pro, or 5, or series or PC. I already had seen tiling issues with the OG version so I'm good. A downgrade in texture and lighting that can be bumped back up after a few updates isn't all that bad. And yes they can update it if it gets enough negative feedback
@@hyozanrutheexiledfab Will they, is the question. I'm holding of on buying DQ11S until they actually update the assets and lightning, I highly doubt they will. Square Enix does not have a good track record with ports.
@@hyozanrutheexiledfab Less grass, static grass, worst textures, worst lighting system, low poly characters models etc etc. Honestly the downgrade is massive when you have played the original game first. It needs way more than just a patch to fix that. And the worst is that you can't even buy the original game on Steam and Psn anymore... fuck Square Enix really. The original is a master piece and a brilliant example of good 3D cell shading this poor port is a shame
@@femto8402 well I guess that's where I forgot to mention. I got it on ps4. And I still have the original. I only got the deluxe since I dont have access to the orchestra mod or 2d mode. All in all the game still plays the same but bad port. I've had worse trust me. Yall don't wanna touch XIII remake.
Disclaimer: I play on a regular PS4. So it may be that the pro players have a different experience. I got Dragon Quest XI S for the Japanese voice-overs and the orchestral soundtrack. After skipping the pre rendered intro videos, I had a huge shock when I saw the environment. Instead of the beautiful grasslands, which could have been taken from a Ghibli movie, the valleys now look like from a PS2 game. I can't say 100% what scales down the graphics the most, but I think it's because of the number of blades of grass, which has been reduced by about half, making the ground textures shine through much more. For most people this shouldn't be a problem, but for me personally these feel-good moments, where I just stop and absorb the surroundings, were very important. These moments complement this heartwarming story about friendship Now when I was outside of a city, I thought all the time about how much better it looks on the "old" version and went back to it. At least for me is XI S not the definitive edition.
I play it on the switch because the pick up and play flexibility of the switch is the reason, i can play it on my TV, and then if i want i can take it along with me
Switch would be my vote for DQXI S. I played the original DQXI on PS4. If I play again it'll be on Switch due to portability. It's such a long game, being able to play anywhere helps.
God bless Xbox Game Pass!! I was originally planning to buy it on PS4 (since i platinumed the original Dragon Quest XI) but i bought an Xbox Series S and this enhanced version will be on game pass. So i don't have to spend much to replay this game. :)
one issue i remember i had with the original PC version was the insane amount of pop in. like stuff would change models AGGRESSIVELY based on distance. it was very very bad and distracting even at max settings. i had to dive in the config files to change the distance to something less jarring
Thank you so much, this helped me decide. I thought about getting the switch version for portability reasons but although I normally don't care about graphics, I would honestly rather get it on my PS4 Pro. although i do have a gaming PC i just like games on Console more than I do PC, I find it more fitting. In all thank you so much for the video and I appreciate it. Helped me be able to decide what to get it on
Started on the Switch, now restarted on the One X, the graphics are still an improvement just like the framerate. One of my favourite jrpg's this generation besides Persona 5. Now if only SMTV would get a release date.
Thanks for taking the time to present all the differences in a condensed way. I'm going to end up playing S since the new features are too nice to pass up. I do wish they had delayed the PC release of S so they could develop a version with the original PC visuals though
As someone who got deep into the 3DS library of games, DQ XI looks like one of the most high production, fleshed-out, and ambitious games on the system that wasn't a port (such as Xenoblade Chronicles, Ocarina of Time, Snake Eater, DQ VIII), along with the Monster Hunter games. The console and pc versions give it the perspective of being inferior, but if those didn't exist, I'm sure it would've been seen as the masterpiece of that system. Kinda reminds me of what happened to Ni No Kuni for the DS.
Even if the 3DS version is built from the ground up, it is mostly the same game with mostly the same content to the point where saves can swap between the other versions of the base game. Simply put, I would call it an enhanced port.
I’m mad because I can’t play the 3ds version and I can’t even find any gameplay on it either. I played the Switch and Vanilla version and put so many hours in it. You bet your sweet ass I’m about to buy it rn and play all over again.
Playing it on Xbox One X now (it's even on Game Pass!) and performance is sublime. 60 fps with occasional dips (though they're quite rare, and don't really affect the game in a meaningful way), zippy load times, and crisp 4K presentation. Not to mention that the game itself is practically the epitome of classic turn-based RPG design. And holy hell is it long; 80+ hours until credits for the "bad" ending, and another 20+ hours on top of that for the true ending. Loving every aspect of it.
I'm still playing through the OG Ps4 release. If I see the definitive Ps4 version cheap enough within the next year or so I'll wait til then to buy it.
"The decision which version you play should be yours."
Square Enix: "I don't think so." *removes the Original Version from all stores*
My kekistan.
I mean, the original PS4 version does have a physical release. And there are a few places other than Steam where you can still buy the original PC version, though it still has Steam DRM.
@@Cae_the_Kitsune yep cop the physical copy
If it's the same experience but better then what's wrong with it
also seriously if you care about graphics that much in a JRPG, consider yourself an annoying elitist, it will not make that much of a difference when the focus isn't on graphics but on what is actually happening. I can understand wanting stuff to look good but the difference between grass isn't going to make the game a worse or even bad game. Yes I will admit that it does make a difference in how stuff feels but are a pieces of foliage vs extra content really a dealbreaker. I will admit that bad graphics when there obviously was room in the budget doesn't feel right but it's a story focused game.
This was a rant and what I'm about to say may contradict what I've just now said. I understand that people want good graphics, and I don't blame them for it, but my main point is that complaining about slightly worse graphics in a game makes no sense imo. you shouldn't be looking at the ground you should be looking at the story.
@@dreamhunter5011 It is a bit of a trade-off, though, as covered in the video. Some people might prefer to trade the improved resolution and framerate, along with the extra content, for the original higher-poly character models and more advanced lighting.
The New Dragon Quest 11 S Echoes of an Elusive Age Definitive Edition U (Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series)
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@@linuigi5535 Let's stop now
There was a 3DS version only released in Japan?!
We were robbed
notable about it, switching from 3D to 2D gameplay is as easy as switching from the analog stick to the Dpad and changing which screen you're looking at. It will even display text on whichever screen you played on last
Yup we were robbed, they even announced it was going to be released in the west. Than back out on it, which is sad cause that was the version I wanted most. I think they backed out on the western release a few months before the orignal release of the game.
@@ChibiKami nah that's the first 3 hours and then you have to pick between 3D or 2D
It's actually not that good
@@mafusan4499 does the 3ds have english language option?
Another small addition that version S has is that there is now more combat dialogue between the party, just little snippets of chatter back and forth as different battle situations occur. For example, if another character takes a ton of damage, Erik asks them "Are you alright?!"
It's a tiny change but I like how it makes battles feel more eventful and meaningful.
That wasn't in the original? Interesting
Is this also for the "Definitive Edition", both on Switch and PC?
@@johanhereorahummerhielm9034 yep
@@FunLobsterFacts Thanks! I did hear that the Switch version had pleeenty of slow downs, so I'm going to play it on Xbox Game Pass.
Thanks for the clarification tho!
And now this game is also on Playstation Plus Extra/Premium, such a nice suprise.
Am I the only one that thinks the orchestrated soundtrack alone makes
S better than the original?
Definitely not. As much as I dug the midi OST when I played the original release, it's night and day difference.
There's a mod for PC players tho on the OG version.
The orchestrated soundtrack was a free mod for the PC.
It's a godsend that you can use the overworld song of DQVIII lol.
I waited several months for S to come out only for the orchestrated soundtrack even though I had a PS4 and could've bought it there
"And there's the 2D mode that lets you play the *entire game* like a traditional 2D dragon quest."
What. The fuck.
Who would actually want that
@@Walamonga1313
Excuse me?
@@reddodeado301 i mean he aint wrong, the 3ds verison got it all in 3d. 2d hd is Nice , but the 2d in dq11 looks ass
@@hoesmad8626 pretty sure you’re missing the whole point buddy man
@@snaggy1212 no, there is nothing definitive about anything if other versions offer content not in the "definitive" version
I played through S on the Switch without having played or seen the game on PC or more powerful consoles and I honestly had no problem with the image quality. It was a bit soft but it looks good enough and the frame rate is rock solid with zero noticeable dips or hiccups in my 80 hours of playing it.
Obviously the added content is more important than the diminished visuals but that's not the real question. The real question is: why do we even have to choose?
On the Switch it makes sense because of the hardware limitations, not so much on the PC or consoles. Saying the new version was developed for the Switch is a cop-out since things like higher resolution textures or lighting quality aren't anything the newer version of UE couldn't handle on those other platforms. It's just stuff they didn't bother to put back in. This isn't a free update, it's a stand-alone game sold for 40€. The least they could do is match the visual fidelity of the original release. There is no reason it couldn't be done, it's just a matter of cutting costs. We shouldn't have to choose between visuals and features.
@@poika22 I feel like sometimes its very easy for people like us who just play games and don't necessarily make them for a living to say things like this. There could definitely be some technical limitations or just design decisions that inhibited their ability to reuse the older assets when porting S to the more powerful platforms. For me, JRPGs and especially Dragon Quest games have never really been about exploring the limits of graphical fidelity or technical achievement. These types of games are best enjoyed with the story and the characters and that is where DQXI excels in my opinion.
@@dcarpenter85 I know a thing or two about software development. There definitely can be reasons that make reusing the older assets more complicated than simply copy-pasting them in. There aren't reasons that make it unattainable for a company the size of Square Enix. Like I said, it's a matter of cutting costs. It definitely could be done, in the most extreme case they could've remade those assets from the group up if that's what they wanted to do. I doubt it would have been necessary, but it could've been done if they wanted to. They have the resources to do it.
Instead they chose to go the cheapest route, porting it from the Switch with minimal changes. You're free to like the characters and the story and everything else, but none of those things would've been negatively impacted by a better technical execution of the re-release. I'm not saying the game is ruined, just that Square should rightly be criticized for their decision to penny-pinch this release.
@@dcarpenter85 There really isn't. It especially isn't hard for a company as big as square enix
@@poika22 Yep, I can't agree more, if you're going to port a game to PC / PS4/ XBOX and it's called the DEFINITIVE edition then there's no reason it should look worse than the original version of the game on each respective platform, if anything it should actually look better. We have improved graphics in games as the generations go on because graphics / aesthetics are a big component to games, else game consoles would of stopped at the PS3 / 360, because realistically both of those consoles are powerful enough to make any game you want. But we don't do that because everyone knows its important. I'll give an example, if Ghost Of Tsushima had a PS3 version, hypothetically and it was heavily downgraded in visuals, it would ruin the overall atmosphere / immersion / experience of the game. It just wouldn't be the same experience on PS3 as it is on PS4. Having said that, I did just buy the definitive edition on PC, I wanna play that extra content, but it IS annoying that I have to play a downgraded game graphically because SE was lazy.
3DS/DS the only unique consoles with unique graphics that gives this console a charm that in whatever year the game was released, it's good.
I wish I could play the 3ds version in English.
Same here, I was soooo disappointed when they announced the 3DS version was not getting a release state side, I wanted that verson specifically over all the others. Perhaps one day a fan translation will happen and we can play it on 3ds.
@@brucetheman8883 I still hope someday a translation does come out, or at least an english menu patch so we know what are we doing lol
Same here. It's real charming looking.
we will have to wait for a fan translation ... But it will take a long time
Likewise
Far more honest comparison than _"other"_ TH-camrs tried to pass off when S was released on the Switch.
That's why when I look for reviews, I don't look for ones like IGN, Kotaku, or any of the ones where it's obvious that they're being fake. Often times, it's the video with hardly any views.
@@octolockg5059 Kotaku's 30+ minute review of dragon quest 11 was great although it was biased
@@yersolell654 A 35 minute video is a bit over the top regardless of the amount of content. And judging from the first minute, it is biased. I want to hear from gamers, not people who get paid to say great things.
@@octolockg5059 your opinion is definitely fair and the review is basically just a 35 minute video of praising a game like it is a perfect creation which is not what a review should do, it's more like a fan's perspective
@@yersolell654 The guy says in the first minute that DQ is his favorite video game franchise of all time. So of course it's biased. Get someone who's played a few here and there or someone who's knew to the franchise. Fresh perspective.
The orchestral version is just...absolutely incredible, I can't imagine playing this game without it...
I always imagined that the musicians in the orchestra were big DQ fans (in some cases 2nd generation DQ fans!) who were thrilled to be a part of the DQ experience and were absolutely doing their best to make sure the symphonic track was a great addition to the game.
I much prefer the midi myself.
@@tomwalker8944 Same
I don't feel the symphony music was that impactful. It's nice but not game changing
8:27 Wait... THE HORSE CHARGING THROUGH ENEMIES EARNS YOU EXP!?
Yea makes the game even more easy than it already is...
@@rainbowflash5937 I played through the entire thing not knowing this... I also played through the game not knowing there was DQ8 dlc. DQ8 is one of my favorite RPGs, so it both made me happy and crushed to hear this.
@@papaG6423 Well I played the non S version first and I'm mad that I payed 60 bucks for it just to miss out on many features now but yes DQ8 is love!
@@rainbowflash5937 They had DQ8 DLC available in the deluxe DLC, I even had DQ8 Hero's outfit in the beginning to play in the Vanilla DQ11 on Steam.
Yeah.
It’s really a shame we never got the 3DS version. It would be easily my pick
My first DQ was 9 on the DS and I loved it. Never played one since untill I saw 11S was on the switch and figured I could use the nostalgia dopamine. I have loved every bit of the 70+( and going) hours I've dumped into it.
(Except for sailing encounters)
Played the normal-, aswell as the s version and im absolutely in love with this game. The s version is a bit better. Orchestrated music, cosmetic gear, got rid of the annoying target quest, more story that covers the background of the crewmates and the crack in the sky endgame mission with the most op item ever as a reward. + the tickling quests have a nice charm
At least the target quest gave you something to use the crossbow for, now it just gets in the way when trying to get a free hit on enemies. If they were going to get rid of the target quest, they could’ve at least also added an option to turn off the crossbow.
I always preffer to play the version with the most available content, so i don't really care for graphics (Even though the game still looks great in every version) Good video Austin, and thank you for correcting the little mistakes from your previous video on the game.
The amount of new content in S was honestly quite staggering, and it's GREAT content too. As the kids say, it hits different.
I agree though I am not buying it at any more that $15 as a owner of the other one but eveyone's problem isn't the bad graphics its how greedy and lazy they were
It's on Xbox game pass if that's of interest to you.
i've been waiting for the S version on pc for a while (dunno if there's gonna be one).. the lack of graphic is not a really concern since the content is massive and QoL features really smoothing the gameplay..
@@glyphgraph8436 Good news! The S version has been out on Game Pass and Steam for about a month now :D
I spent almost 100+ hours into this game on my switch! This is a true masterpiece! 👌The end game is good which made me maxed out my party too.
I played the whole 10 hour demo on switch. Then I went and finally installed my orignal steam copy and added the Orchestral OST mod. Much much more playable IMO. Since it's all still new to me, missing out on extra side content is no problem. 200 hour game already, ya know.
So hard to find turn based RPGs anymore, So glad DQ didn't go the action route so many others have.
Persona, Trails of Cold Steel, and Dragon Quest... I can't think of any other big budget turn based RPGs at the moment
@@viquistzius4664 FFVII Remake has a turn based combat option, but the real time combat is awesome, I can’t imagine why someone would choose turn based over real time in that game
@@eddyrodriguez3865 I didn't play it in classic, I wanted to experience it the way they intended. And it really was awesome! So I probably left it out for those two reasons, not the intented way to play and not the way I played it. But yeah, can't wait for part 2!
Octopath Traveler and soon Bravely Default II.
@@eddyrodriguez3865 It's not turn based, the game just moves and auto attacks for you while you as the player just control the combat menu.
So what you're saying is, there's no definitive edition? Going to miss seeing those glorious puff puff in HD.
You can play it in HD on Switch or even on Steam if you choose a lower resolution; but right now I don't see any reason to go back to HD when current platforms have better resolutions.
just started playing on pc, game really is beautiful.
I didn't even know there was a 3DS version. I kinda want to give it a go.
Kinda Japanese version only
"Stupid game I've been waiting for 2 minutes already, also what are you doi-"
That version is in the Switch version? You can play it in that style
That futaba though
I wished it got ported on PS Vita :(
Playing on switch last year and then on PS5 now is a world of a difference. It looks gorgeous on PlayStation and FPS is better
The symphonic version ost.... hell yes!
1:17 So you're telling me that, for once, in a big Japanese title like Dragon Quest, the English voice actors are actually the original voice actors?
yeah lmao
nah the opposite lol, there is only japanese in japan
@@rafaelmontillaalvarez6272 Text? Yes. Voice acting? No, and it wasn't even available. Japan didn't get voice acting in *any* Dragon Quest game until Dragon Quest XI S.
@@jonespianist3189 ah yeah, thought u meant english voices were in the japanese version lol. Yeah there were no voices for feeling old school or somth. Only japanese text
@@jonespianist3189 like the original Silent Hill had english voices only in the japanese version
Damn such a pitty my vanilla wont get a update. Those improvements are insane.
I feel a bit betrayed.
Same, I'm definitely not buying it a second time. I'm boycotting for that matter, might as well pirate it.
@@Lexyvil exactly.
It's so fucked up that the PS4 version of 11S is just the Switch version. I just wanted the PS4 version with the new stuff!
@@Lexyvil Just wait three years until you buy a new game. Then you get everything you want to.
IMO, even I wait the release on Xbox One to play it at 4K60 on my One X, the visual is not the main thing that import in a Dragon Quest, it's the OST, and now with the port of XI S we're going to have the orchetral ost on any version, and that is great !
Although it is a shame that the "definitive edition" of the game does not have the definitive graphical quality, all of the quality of life changes and the slew of extra content will make up for worse quality graphics. DQ11S is definitive in just about every other way and is worth playing over the original.
I'll put my faith in the modders!
Mods for me!
@NazarioCharlie what kind of mods?
@NazarioCharlieBut read where?
@NazarioCharlie It's a different system though according to modders. The updated unreal engine makes it tougher to do any modding of the graphics because its not the same system.
Would definitely play the 3DS version if it were available but as an aspiring streamer and a longtime Dragon Quest fan I think i'd like to pick up the PC version of DQXIS and this video was very helpful in pushing me to make a final decision. SO thank you for a concise and to the point video with plenty of information!
Only real downside of S I see is the lighting looks slightly worse. Content wise it’s no competition.
Even then the lighting could be a matter of taste (I personally prefer the way it looks in S)! Still an amazing game no matter what
It's more than just the lighting. Character models and grass took a major hit as well
The funny part is it looks like S has better textures. Like, by far. And then worse everything else, heh. I do agree the lighting could be preferential but it looks more natural in vanilla.
Aliasing on S is jarring!
Nah there is a looooot more that looks worse on S. Lighting, grass, polycount on models is a third of the OG version for some models, blurry textures, water, fire.. it goes on and on. It doesn't seem too big a deal at first until you really start actually comparing the more mid game area's.
played the switch one when it released and its definitely worth it. the game looks amazing and its nice being able to take it wherever if i need to whether im simply grinding while wasting time irl or playing docked in my bed. lovely game and i have no issues w it. if not switch might as well go for pc port
For those interested, you can easily mod in the orchestral music into the PC version.
But the midi music is better....
I'd love the option to play with the 3D graphics of the 3Ds, I love how the characters in that version are drawn
13:28 agreed, I went into it on Switch and loved it, I never really felt the graphics were poor or anything. Only after I beat the game did I really notice how good the game could’ve looked when I watched PS4 gameplay, but I still think S is the best version regardless.
Agreed lol
Switch have the best version of any port
On my Xbox, I was having fun knocking enemies around on the Great Sabercat. The S version is great.
Thank you for this video, i'm a big fan of DQ series but didn't play XI yet, thank to you i'll go for the XI S version on ps4, have a nice day
Honestly, I had shied away from considering the S version because it just seemed like a lot of work to figure out if it was worth it, and your video cleared that out for me, so thanks!
Not gonna lie the lighting and models are really noticeable when directly compared but the content is the important part here and S brings a lot of content to the table.
Plus, knowing modders, it won't be long until we get to see improvements on the graphic side on the PC. Even if it doesn't happen, content beats graphics any day.
Great video, always helpful knowing what to expect.
True, but funnily enough, I actually think that the lighting on character models actually looks much better in the DE edition than the original. Don't like how it looks on everything else though. And obviously foilage is now way worse, unquestionably.
I started this game on Xbox one S. And I'm continuing it on the Series X. And it looks amazing with Auto HDR,
such an incredible feature.
It can't be overstated how much of an improvement S is over the original. It also can't be overstated how gorgeous the original looks. It pains me to see a compromise be made. Curious why they decided to call the console version of S "The Definitive Edition," as almost zero improvements were made to take advantage of the beefier hardware.
Great comparison. I ended up owning both. I had the original on Steam, then bought the Definitive Edition for the extra content. It still looks really good, although the textures are downgraded.
If someone doesn't own either, and wants to get a copy, I'd absolutely say get the Definitive version. The added content is MORE than worth it.
EDIT: Someone mentioned the original was removed, so I guess that settles that.
My biggest disappointment was that the enemies weren’t animated in the 2D version. It would’ve been so nice had the enemies been animated like they were in DQ7.
Man, I really wanted this game on 3DS. I've played so many DQ games on ds systems, playing it on other things seems weird. Great game though.
Maybe a PC lighting mod, or reshade can fix that
The grass is way less dense on DE too, sadly.
While I love having a pc but I've yet to play a game where I don't have to install a mod or tweak settings in my cpu, gpu, and any other software that relates to anything that a game requires even down to audio software.
@@indefatigableargonaut What kind of games are you playing? I have around 100 PC games and only 2 require mods to run properly (Dark Souls 1 and NieR Automata) and I have very old games that shouldn't run or have a lot of conflict with newer hardware
Finn & Jake "tweak settings in my GPU or CPU"
lol
@@gorgnof lmao yea, this dude has no idea what he's talking about
Just started playing the other day and loving it so far.
Enjoy, it’s a very long game. I got it the day it came out on Switch, and I’m still playing it.
I beated it long ago, but I might come back to it to beat the ultra boss and start a draconian file lol
Amazing video! Much appreciated on all these changes. Never has definite edition had so much fan service! I can’t believe you can switch to DQ VIII overworld music.
I can't wait to try it tomorrow, this is my first time on the franchise of dragonquest!
You won’t get disappointed 😃
I wish I could experience the game again for the first time. Lucky you lol.
Your FIRST Dragon Quest... you're gonna die 😂
One of the best games i ever played
VIII is awesome as well. I'm sorta like you, except VIII was my first. Was the only one I played until XI. I was NOT disappointed by either of them haha
The game is perfect on pc everyone that like jrpgs should play it. It's the game I dreamt when I was a kid playing FF.
So, I bought DQ11s for my lapop, and I must say, even thought this isnt a high end laptop (around 1000 ish) it looks reallyy good. My roommate walked in before and said the graphics looked like on his 4k tv. So far I dont regret my decision at all!
My take is that buy this if you haven't owned the game yet. But don't double-dip because either way you will get a LOT of play time.
I bought this on sale on Steam ages ago but never got around to playing it but when they announced that S was coming to Game Pass, I decided to just wait. The graphical quality is compromised but the qol updates seem worth it to just skip playing the original version I own. Thanks for putting together this comparison.
It’s weird how an Japanese 3ds is the only platform where you can play every single main Dragon Quest
Not X but I agree with your point
@@theinfernoburns There is actually a 3ds version of DQX
I mean Dragonquest is basically 80 percent of the Japanese economy if they did not do that Japan would have burned down a long time ago from Japanese fans outrage
A by the books JRPG from the ones who wrote the books, pretty apt way of putting it!
Looking at the graphical differences in this video makes me think even more that the people who complain about them are freaking mental.
its a wonderful toriyama-esque world of wonder and fantasy but people are loosing their shit about minuscule details like those gaps in graphical quality , I seriously feel negativity its killing gaming slowly
At some parts of the video, I couldn’t tell which graphics were supposed to look better...
I agree. Difference is so freaking small. Just shut up and enjoy the massive content upgrade 🙄 I bought the original XI a long time ago and had to sell it for some extra scratch. Regretted it immediately, but now I'm stoked because it just means I won't feel like I wasted my money buying it again for all this cool shit
Yeah this 60fps 4k ready crap is annoying really 90% of the games don't have a proper story just shot and that's it 8-12 hours, dragon quest 100-120 great story I take that thank you very much.
There is so much for me to learn about the Dragon Quest series. I'm a new fan to the franchise and can't wait for Dragon Quest 12.
I'll copy-paste this comment about DQ11's lighting:-
The original game used Enlighten, which bakes better lighting at higher resolutions, with better Global Illumination and bounce, and has much less expensive realtime lighting support, Enlighten does exist for Nintendo Switch however it's rather costly, so square have opted to use standard unreal baked lightmaps for the Switch version, so the lighting looks very different.
Source : www.reddit.com/r/dragonquest/comments/jmssyp/comparison_between_4k_pc_original_and_definitive/gay909w/
*Hey thanks for citing this!!* This is really good to know
Thanks for the extensive comparison, it was exactly what I was looking for. Big thumbs up for being so succinct yet highly detailed too.
Thanks for the info, I was a bit doubtful if I should continue the Vanilla on PC or get the S on discount but I'm definitely going to keep playing the vanilla. ^^
It's a shame that they didn't bother to take the extra time to move the higher quality assets from the original 11 to 11S. I think the lack of the more advanced lighting makes the latter look a lot flatter. However, it's a testament to the Switch version that 11S still looks extremely good on Xbox and PS4.
I might have to give this a shot on Series X.
I'm playing it on the series X right now. Runs great and super fast loading times
I never knew the music was synthesized, it sounds so good.
On the graphics, what floored me about Dragon Quest XI was seeing all the little knicks and cuts in Hendriks blade so long as the metal in the game is still so detailed I am fine with the changes.
The S version is such a big middle finger to everyone it shouldn't be full price to orginal owners. The orginal shouldn't be delisted and the graphics should be the same if not better
Ahhh the 3DS version looks so good, wish we got it.
I am a sucker for more content than something that super pretty (I learned my lesson from the 360/PS3 era)
Which examples did you find?
This was really helpful. The new content and music options sound nice as a console gamer, however paying less and having the better looking game is more my style especially as someone who doesn't mind the midi music. Thanks for helping me with this decision.
Excellent work! Always looking forward to your videos.
i`m playing the definitive version on ps4 slim and.....i`m ADORING every minute so far
Started playing the demo over the weekend on Xbox Series X. Looks great at 60fps and loads really fast. The colours really pop due to HDR being added by Xbox series consoles' Auto HDR mode.
I played this on my switch undocked 95% of the time. What a blast.
I was actually scheptical about the Definitive Edition looking worse because it's based on the Switch build, but today I played both the original on PS4 Pro and DE on Series X and man, there is a difference. Sure, DE has 60fps support on SX and all those extras, but man it does look a lot weaker than the original.
I have played thru both the original PS4 release and the new Switch version, and while the new content on the Switch version is nice, the graphical difference is jarring to say the least. It's far more noticeable in motion while playing them in person. The texture detail and dynamic lighting effects are the biggest changes, and the difference is pretty massive. Enough so that I greatly prefer the original PS4 release over the Switch version, even without the extra content.
They also did away with one of my favorite features of the original PS4 version, First Person View mode. The graphics can be absolutely gorgeous in that game, and being able to zoom in on them whenever you want is really nice. The lighting effects in particular as light bounces off reflective surfaces such as floors and walls is particularly beautiful looking.
The upgrades and new options in the "S" versions are amazing, I dont know how could anyone prefer the old version. Just the new orchestral OST and the native 4K/60FPS is a drastical upgrade, but all the new content which means HOURS of gameplay is more than enough!
yeah it's still cool, but i like the og visuals, just more lush and dense it makes the environment feel less barren or budget in comparison to how it felt with the switch graphics
Switch convinced me good enough. Lol.
And I also wanted to correct myself from another reply.....I thought this game was ported to ps5/series XS but its not..... my bad.
@@jamesblas6427 You can still play it on those systems via backcompat.
Nah.....don't have ps5. But it's cool to no need to rush buying it until they fix all the weird ass shit that's happening to it.....like system weird bugs if any....and also controller drift.
I started on the vanilla ps4 version and im finishing on the switch DS undocked, but i really don’t care much for fps and im happy with anything above 720p. The switch oled make the game looks anew 😍 and im buying the def S ps4 version just to continue to support the game.
You have to play the S version. No matter what console you play it on, you're in for a hell of a ride.
Yeah the extra stuff is cool and that final boss was a b***h, timewyrm
this and dq8 have been my fav games of all time. if you havnt played it still. its worth it.
I'm on ps5, and did not know any of this. I thought I was crazy for thinking the graphics used to be better. Turns out it was...
I am nearly 60 hours into this game, and it still feels like I'm only halfway done 😭
Thats because you are 😂
Honestly this game is so long I’m playing through it right now on the Xbox one S
Just make sure you guys play the post game. Thats where the adventure really starts!
@@LuinK1 oh no. It really is gonna be 100 hours 🤣. When I first saw how long this game was i didn't believe any of it, yet here I am
I'm so thankful that I got the vanilla game on Steam before they removed it. I even have the orchestral music mod with it.
Only downside i see is that my save data for Vanillia doesn't transfer to S. Thats it
The new version looks like garbage. The OG version with the orchestrated music mod is the best.
@@The2808erik im playing it on ps4 not pro, or 5, or series or PC. I already had seen tiling issues with the OG version so I'm good. A downgrade in texture and lighting that can be bumped back up after a few updates isn't all that bad. And yes they can update it if it gets enough negative feedback
@@hyozanrutheexiledfab Will they, is the question. I'm holding of on buying DQ11S until they actually update the assets and lightning, I highly doubt they will. Square Enix does not have a good track record with ports.
@@hyozanrutheexiledfab Less grass, static grass, worst textures, worst lighting system, low poly characters models etc etc. Honestly the downgrade is massive when you have played the original game first. It needs way more than just a patch to fix that. And the worst is that you can't even buy the original game on Steam and Psn anymore... fuck Square Enix really. The original is a master piece and a brilliant example of good 3D cell shading this poor port is a shame
@@femto8402 well I guess that's where I forgot to mention. I got it on ps4. And I still have the original. I only got the deluxe since I dont have access to the orchestra mod or 2d mode. All in all the game still plays the same but bad port. I've had worse trust me. Yall don't wanna touch XIII remake.
Disclaimer: I play on a regular PS4. So it may be that the pro players have a different experience.
I got Dragon Quest XI S for the Japanese voice-overs and the orchestral soundtrack. After skipping the pre rendered intro videos, I had a huge shock when I saw the environment. Instead of the beautiful grasslands, which could have been taken from a Ghibli movie, the valleys now look like from a PS2 game. I can't say 100% what scales down the graphics the most, but I think it's because of the number of blades of grass, which has been reduced by about half, making the ground textures shine through much more.
For most people this shouldn't be a problem, but for me personally these feel-good moments, where I just stop and absorb the surroundings, were very important.
These moments complement this heartwarming story about friendship
Now when I was outside of a city, I thought all the time about how much better it looks on the "old" version and went back to it.
At least for me is XI S not the definitive edition.
A lot of respect they knew their demographic and didn’t release a 3DS version in America and vice versa for PC
Unfortunately PC Square Enix suffers the most and Dragon Quest I - III which I know why because of censorship and IP problems.
no
I play it on the switch because the pick up and play flexibility of the switch is the reason, i can play it on my TV, and then if i want i can take it along with me
Honestly, if there was a western 3DS version, I'd play it.
Switch would be my vote for DQXI S. I played the original DQXI on PS4. If I play again it'll be on Switch due to portability. It's such a long game, being able to play anywhere helps.
God bless Xbox Game Pass!! I was originally planning to buy it on PS4 (since i platinumed the original Dragon Quest XI) but i bought an Xbox Series S and this enhanced version will be on game pass. So i don't have to spend much to replay this game. :)
one issue i remember i had with the original PC version was the insane amount of pop in. like stuff would change models AGGRESSIVELY based on distance. it was very very bad and distracting even at max settings. i had to dive in the config files to change the distance to something less jarring
Thank you so much, this helped me decide. I thought about getting the switch version for portability reasons but although I normally don't care about graphics, I would honestly rather get it on my PS4 Pro. although i do have a gaming PC i just like games on Console more than I do PC, I find it more fitting.
In all thank you so much for the video and I appreciate it. Helped me be able to decide what to get it on
...Well... Switch version is now on PC now.
And Original PC is unavailable now.
Started on the Switch, now restarted on the One X, the graphics are still an improvement just like the framerate. One of my favourite jrpg's this generation besides Persona 5. Now if only SMTV would get a release date.
November 12, 2021
3DS version, without a doubt.
It’s the only one that looks different
Playing DQ11 in bed on the switch for half an hour right before bed is of course the best option.
Thanks for the video!
I hate how lazy Square is. Instead of adding the new content to the superior PC/PS4 version, they just ported the Switch version.
I am currently playing it on a ps4 pro-4k tv and its a charm.
Thanks for taking the time to present all the differences in a condensed way. I'm going to end up playing S since the new features are too nice to pass up. I do wish they had delayed the PC release of S so they could develop a version with the original PC visuals though
As someone who got deep into the 3DS library of games, DQ XI looks like one of the most high production, fleshed-out, and ambitious games on the system that wasn't a port (such as Xenoblade Chronicles, Ocarina of Time, Snake Eater, DQ VIII), along with the Monster Hunter games. The console and pc versions give it the perspective of being inferior, but if those didn't exist, I'm sure it would've been seen as the masterpiece of that system. Kinda reminds me of what happened to Ni No Kuni for the DS.
Even if the 3DS version is built from the ground up, it is mostly the same game with mostly the same content to the point where saves can swap between the other versions of the base game.
Simply put, I would call it an enhanced port.
I’m mad because I can’t play the 3ds version and I can’t even find any gameplay on it either.
I played the Switch and Vanilla version and put so many hours in it. You bet your sweet ass I’m about to buy it rn and play all over again.
I'm stil playing Switch on new game plus and getting all the outfits
Playing it on Xbox One X now (it's even on Game Pass!) and performance is sublime. 60 fps with occasional dips (though they're quite rare, and don't really affect the game in a meaningful way), zippy load times, and crisp 4K presentation. Not to mention that the game itself is practically the epitome of classic turn-based RPG design. And holy hell is it long; 80+ hours until credits for the "bad" ending, and another 20+ hours on top of that for the true ending.
Loving every aspect of it.
It looks and runs great on Xbox series x
@@iNeed2Pi yes its stable, havent had any framedrops in the 3hrs i played so far.
The loading times are crazy fast on Series X btw.
I'm still playing through the OG Ps4 release. If I see the definitive Ps4 version cheap enough within the next year or so I'll wait til then to buy it.