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- This is a comprehensive review & comparison of Chrono Trigger for the Super Famicom, Super Nintendo, PlayStation, Nintendo DS, I-Mode, Android, iOS, and Steam. This video's coverage is relevant of the PC & Mobile version as of April 4, 2022; they will likely see updates after this videos release. We cover gameplay changes, bugs, localization, visuals, music, balance and content differences. This comparison should inform you of any and all significant differences between each different version of the game, enough so that you could decide which version you think you'd prefer. It also provides a common ground for discussion among which versions others may prefer & the points of contention to refer to in discussion.
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REUPLOADED to remove the inaccurate mention of the MSU-1 chip being involved in the SNES version's crashes. I'm not positive which source mentioned it having to do with the game's rare crashes, but while we're mentioning the chip, it's a custom chip that can enable the use of mods for various SNES games. For Chrono Trigger, you could utilize the MSU-1 chip for CD quality music and even the anime FMV cutscenes on original hardware.
Thank you to everybody's prior comments!
I actually didn't even know about the MSU-1 mods, and never heard about their support in bsnes. Glad I checked the comments!
@@shrgnatlas MSU-1 stuff goes way beyond modding too. Like there are whole FMV games ported to snes that utilize it.
I’d recommend checking out Road Avenger/Road Blaster :)
I adore the DS version. I love the retranslation, I like the extra content for what it does filling in certain gaps in the story like HOW that tiny little town of Porre managed to overthrow the kingdom of Guardia, and I don't even mind the subtle changes to the OST.
What brings me out of the experience though are the sound effects. There are far too many instances where various sound effects are just way off from their original. I would still rank the DS version as the best version of the game, but that's one difference worth noting. Oh, and I believe there's one more issue with the PS1 version. A lot of sprite variety disappeared in that version of the game, possibly to help handle RAM limitations, but what it means is instead of the guards in Guardia's prison often having unique color palettes, they all share the same palette.
The android version seems fine so far. Quick load times. No built in guude though
There's some inaccurate information in this video, and it's missing a lot that could be said about different versions, some of which I've compiled here:
- There are lots of grammar and spelling errors in the DS translation of CT - I've listed a bunch before when discussing this topic. The DS translation in general is a big step-down from the SNES translation, losing lots of character and heart. The DS translation sounds very dry and flatlined and compared to the SNES version, and reads like there are no individual personalities and that it's all one sterile personality delivering all the lines.
- Combat speed is adjustable in the SNES version (probably in the DS version, too), in the game menu. You don't mention this when initially saying the DS version has a faster battle speed.
- There are no new details to sprites and backgrounds in the DS version, and colours, lighting, and shading weren't added in the DS version. The DS version simply has a grotesque yellow filter placed over everything (which I've been told was done due to something about the DS' screen, I forget what), and the player sprites on the overworld map are different (not better, though). None of the individual details you mentioned reflect things that are actually done in the DS version. The yellow colour filter bias hasn't been removed in any of the post-DS versions of the game, and it looks entirely awful.
- The mini-map in the NDS version isn't convenient, as CT's environments are pretty simple and aren't confusing. It's just a cheat-sheet that, IMO, shouldn't be there.
- The music in the NDS version is lower fidelity, and it also intermittently fades-out and starts over again, which the SNES version doesn't do.
- The Steam version of CT has bugs, slowdowns, and choppiness. It also has crashes, and for some people it won't even launch.
- There can be an issue in the Steam version with a line of pixels appearing above the text popup box, extending across the entire screen.
- The Steam version now inexplicably has added exclamation-mark bubbles over NPC heads whenever the player next to them. It looks terrible and serves no purpose, since every NPC you can stand next to can be engaged with.
- The mini games were made easier in the mobile version, to cater to touch controls. I think the Steam version hasn't reset them to their original difficulty, and so are too easy when playing with a keyboard or gamepad.
- There is no decent visual filter in the Steam version. The smooth filter is ugly and mis-aligns textures, while the no-filter, pixelated version doesn't look like the original game and is also not very good looking.
- The Steam version's font is eye-bleedingly bad, and barely legible on a large screen. It's the font that was used in the DS version, which it was changed to after people complained about the mobile version font that was used. But the DS version's font was specifically used in the DS version because of the DS version's small screen. It's a hideous font on larger screens. The original SNES font is far more nice-looking and readable.
- The Steam version's battle UI is atrocious.
- The Steam version doesn't let characters be named using a gamepad, so someone playing with a gamepad needs to put down their gamepad and go to a keyboard whenever they get a new party member.
- The one good thing the Steam version does is add additional background tiles in some locations, to fill-out the edges of the environment, to fill a 16:9 widescreen resolution. Other than that, the Steam version of CT is a complete disaster, even after the latest patch.
Playing Chrono Trigger on a Nintendo DSi XL is a bliss.
yep yep
Legit bought a used DSi Xl just to play Chrono Trigger again
Yes this is the best way to play it. I have a ps5, a gaming pc, switch and I still return to my Dsi xl. Absolutely brilliant handheld. You can't beat dual screens
@@craigsouthern4793 DS is the best. My favorite way to play the Dragon Quest titles, too. Just finished my collection of 4-9 on DS.
More people need to try those games!
We really needed a 3DS port of it.
Truthfully you can't go wrong with either the SNES version or the DS version. While the SNES version is my personal go to for the overall feel, the DS version having certain features the PS1 did including the anime cutscenes is a nice plus. The sound on that version also still sounds quite nice on the original hardware. The load times in the PS1 version at least in my opinion slow the game to a crawl and the Steam version (or Android version) just has inconsistencies that I can't personally get behind, though if either of the latter two versions are your only way to play, then they can at least be serviceable.
Ds versions soundtrack sucks though
The DS Sound Quality is relatively poor compared to SNES/PS1.
I own both DS and SNES versions, and will hold onto my SNES copy for dear life.
Yeah I remember in like 2004 or 2005 in high school using an old snes rom dumper using floppy disks I pulled chrome trigger off my cart I bought in a store for $40 back then (just the cart too) and played it all the way through, tho I got so mad I missed Magus by saying no to him then saving on accident not realizing that was a permanent choice.. I restarted the entire game and never finished it.
The DS has lower audio quality. The definitive way to go for me is the patched (Re-Translate) SNES version.
@@moister3727 I wish I could do the re-translate snes version on PC. I can get the pc steam version looking like the snes version but there are no timer bars which is annoying i think, and no re-translation iirc?
I am really hoping for a 1 to 1 remake done with the HD2D, kind of like Live-A-Live is being done with the option to play in the also beautiful original graphics.
Now that will be a long ass wait =/
@@s_guedes I know. But I believe the reason we're waiting so long for this on the switch and chrono cross coming first is a good sign. Let's hope!
@@ccarbone3561 they are measuring interest right now for sure, but the lukewarm reviews of CC right now might kill it for good unfortunately
You mean remaster.
I'd rather have crono resurrection fully made.
@@s_guedes have literally alreasdy waited 20 years for this to happen...
I Wish Square Enix Would Remaster Chrono Trigger Or Remake A Release A Physical Copy On Nintendo Switch.
Imagine Chrono Trigger remake like Secret of Mana...
Can't tell you how excited I was back when this was released on the DS. Out of all the physical games I own, that's definetly the one I treasure the most, and even if the extra content is a bit of a mixed bag, feels like the best version of this masterpiece.
Though I wish I had more then 3 save slots though, as I've kept my original save file from when I bought it and constantly have to delete the other 2 when doing a new run (depending on my mood I either replay the game fresh or do a NG+ for a different ending)
The original translation/re-adaptation has no match.
The extra features were unnecessary. The dream devourer and Lavos is supposed to be one-hit K.O. with the final of Magus + Marle and Lucca triple tech.
12:26 Being a game programmer it is possible that the "shaking" of moving diagonal is because the player is not really moving diagonally but up/left, up/right, down/left, and down/right - alternating between the two directions to give a semblance of diagonal movement.
But he said it's not there at previous version, the "bug" is just now there after latest update
i'm guessing they added a pixel snapping algorithm to actors, only that the algorithm isn't good. though i'm not sure if the game had any issues drawing perfect pixels on PC, i'm only getting into the chrono games now.
I find it odd, but nice, that the PC version of this game got no updates for about three and a half years before randomly getting further updates. Still, they need to fix the music restarting bug and they should add the missing FMVs. The extra screen real-estate on PC looks really nice though.
The DS version seems to be the best version in a lot of ways, but the PC version is not far behind, and it is better in some ways.
They did that with some FF games as well. Unexpected but always welcome.
Stop this mimimimi Regal Pixel Queen!!!
@@timurkral3781 I fail to understand what you are trying to say. But I do agree that I am fabulous.
@@VOAN Woah, seriously? Mind pointing me towards it then? I've been itching to replay this game.
@@VOAN unh... i doubt a super nes could play the modded room properly bro. stick to emulators
That’s really cool that they actually improved the PC version by adding new details to the sides of the screen to fit 16:9, it’s a real shame no version of this is perfect though. Personally I played the original SNES copy on a real console a little while ago, but the DS version looks like it would be a good way to replay it next time I do it. PC is probably the third best option as I love the idea of new background detail and it’s got most of the bonus content.
the bonus content is dogshit and totally breaks the apcing of the game. It's all optional but barring the endings it adds nothing to the game. The Lost Sanctum takes 5 hours to beat and it's a bunch of back ot back fetch quest 3 hours before the final boss
Your channel is absolutely invaluable! I was always wondering about version differences and there isn't a concise way to list them all without a video.
shill, fake comment
I finished it on the NDS about 8 months ago and I honestly think it's the best version because of the translation and the convenience of being portable and not having the PC issues
Though if you're not playing it on an actual DS I don't think it would be the best for emulation
honestly, ive been emulating it recently because i was playing the steam version and only about an hour in i had numerous crashes and streaming it on discord didnt show any of the cut scenes, so i just moved on over to the ds version but through emulation and its been alot smoother and menus are cleaner as well. only issues are audio is a very minor downgrade and the screen is smaller since it has to display 2 screens (i have the 2nd screen smaller though)
no, Drastic emulator does wonders for this game
Drastic Emulator for Android does magic with this game, I often forget there's two screens, because most of the time I play it with one screen in full size, so Only use 2 screens when in Menu. Changing this setting are way so easy...!!!!!
@@bassram3337 Drastic the best man!!! Just bought it because I think it deserves my support
@@andyporcello2422 Is it possible to play the game with only 1 screen? Can you share the menu with the same screen if you press start?
I’ve long ago sold my DSi when I semi-retired my gaming career, but I still kept some of the titles and this is one of them. My beloved Chrono. I’ve always thought the DS one slightly better than both the SNES and PSX version and it’s good to find apparently others agree. I hope to buy another DS to reconnect with this experience again.
Better to buy the ds lite so you can play Chrono Trigger and gba games to get the best of both worlds.
@@DjCrispyFingers Not really if they don't have any GBA games, and the DSI display is just better
what does 'semi-retiring' your 'gaming career' mean? I thought I was on Reddit for a second
Get a 3DS if you can pref a new 3DS, you cannot only play DS games on it but also a lot of cool 3Ds games.
👍 I just don't understand why the steam versions seem to be universally worse in all these square releases.
This is by far not the worst anymore. At release, sure.
Because they are, across the board, mobile ports with shoestring budgets, because the people writing the checks at Square Enix are more interested in cashing in on nostalgia than sharing and preserving their classic library.
The only steam versions that are worse are the mobile ports. The Pixel Remasters are great.
@@ValkyrieTiara more passable than great. There's always a better way to play these games than PR.
@@TonyTonyRedgrave I disagree. I think the pixel remasters tend to be among the best official versions aside from the originals, and in many cases you could make an argument for PR being superior. The only things I care about for ports and remasters of these games are accuracy to the original and error correction, and maybe the occasional unobtrusive QoL enhancement or bonus feature (run button and buying item stacks in FF1, bestiary, art gallery, etc).
Anything that significantly changes the aesthetic, gameplay, or story compared to the originals is a non-starter. An exception is made for the 8 bit games' graphics, considering very few ports/remakes use the og graphics for those games. The pixel remasters are almost exactly that. They didn't try to overhaul the graphics (though I wish they hadn't homogenized the menus), the gameplay and mechanics are mostly untouched save for bug fixes, and they didn't try to reinvent the wheel with the retranslations.
The only real problems I have with them are a few technical issues, the lack of an original OST option (though the new versions are, on the whole, possibly the best OST remakes I've ever heard), and a hard mode or something to make up for the huge drop in difficulty in a lot of games due to bug fixes and rebalancing, but that last one is hardly unique to the PRs. Those are all relatively minor quibbles, though. Other than that theyre great.
SNES version seems to be the best experience for those who don't care about the new extra content.
Chrono Trigger ranks among one of the best video game RPG's I ever played, along with the Legend of Zelda games, Final Fantasy Games, Super Mario RPG. One game I heard which was really good which I never got a chance to play is called Dragon Quest. Chrono Cross is an unofficial direct sequel to Chrono Trigger or like a spinoff sequel. It is a shame Chrono Break was cancelled, it could have been the official Chrono Trigger 2 some fans have been waiting for since 1995. Chrono Trigger reputation and masterpiece is a gem in video game history and highly unappreciated franchise which Squaresoft now Square or whatever their new name for their studio happens to be. It is a genius work from very highly talented video game designers and artists which made Chrono Trigger one of the best video games I ever played. The music was phenomenal, the story was engaging, the graphics and depth of the game with the time travel really felt something special. It is almost like reading a book or great novel when playing this game or the same way with the Legend of Zelda games or Final Fantasy games. You really get invested in the characters and timeline and it is so well done. I really hope as a fan they make an official Chrono Trigger 2 because this game is legendary.
i just found your channel recently due to being fixated on final fantasy and chrono trigger is also one of my favorite games of all time. definitely impeccable timing, thank you for doing this :D
I hate the fact that the mobile version didn't use to have that horrible filter before the release of the Steam version. They released the game on Steam with the filter and updated the mobile version. People on Steam heavily criticised the filter so they made it optional there, but left the mobile version ruined forever...
Steam version had a lot of problems on release, but I think it's the most accessible version today especially for those that wanted to play it when they were younger but now quite a bit older. Being able to play it on a big screen (rather than a DS screen) and the speed increase is great.
Still a shame about what is missing
@alumlovescake im pretty sure they patched in all ds content tho moving diagonally still cause a slight shake
So I played this first on original hardware and then on PS1 as a teenager. I remember wanting to cry every time I accidentally walked backwards and to the next area because I didn’t realize where my characters were… those load times are so frustrating lol. I loved the added cutscenes. I really want to play the DS version
I am playing the Steam version now and the Auto function is a blessing when grinding for techs and levels. The only version I did not play is the mobile version and I can say that the DS version is the most complete yet. In any case, there are no exact words when describing the feeling while playing Chrono Trigger in any version. What I felt when I first played the game 27 years ago is the same when I replayed it 27 years later. Pure nostalgia and I am happy playing it over and over again.
Great video man, very helpful! I will be playing through the steam version in 21:9 soon
The Steam version works fairly well on the Steam Deck, though there may be a bug where the game reverts back to the home screen when trying to cloud save and play animated cutscenes at the same time. Besides that, since it’s a portable version with a wider aspect ratio, it’s pretty great.
WOW so is the Android version! lol
@@timmyp6297 Steam Deck comfier.
@@cyka_delik9537 Not with a telescopic controller its the same thing,
@@timmyp6297 Huh. Didn't know that existed. I might pick one of those up for my Switch.
I still prefer the Steam Deck over the Switch by a large margin.
The Switch is still great tho. I just played thru Link's Awakening on it again over the weekend.
I'm playing the SNES version of Chrono Trigger on my Deck, personally. I was gonna choose the PS1 version, but didn't want to deal with the load times.
Like with Final Fantasy VI, it's frustrating we can't get an absolute definitive edition without qualifiers.
Thanks for this. I have been a big fan of Chrono Trigger since it came out when I was a kid. I have always wondered what the exact differences were in the newer versions.
It's funny, despite how slow the load times are, the PS1 version was the first version I played and still managed to be one of my favorite games of all time. The core game is just that good. 😂
The NDS version was the ons I played. Playing RPG games on the NDS with the dual screen was always nice and I kinda miss it now nowadays. Might pick up the Steam version since there have been a lot of good updates since its was terrible at launch .
You played the so called loser-version especially made for losers!
@@timurkral3781 valid point from an 8 year old.
@@GamingWithNLGamer dont be pissed like that hobo wanksta
Stay far away from the Steam version, trust me.
@@nahelbeuk why? Is it that bad?
Try climbing the stairs in the Guardia castle towers on the PSX version. It is truly a test of sanity.
PS1*
@@dexedge4645 He meant it, PSX is PS1, they’re interchangeable terms.
The first time I played CT on PS1 I noticed all the reverb in the music was missing. At the beginning of the game leave town immediately to hear that pleasant piano tune. On the SNES it has an echoing quality to it which is completely absent from the PS1 version.
Great video as always!!
Maybe they could not emulate the sound chip inside the SNES (which was in fact made by Sony) on the PS1 version. Same for the new Chrono Cross remaster. The reverb is gone (you can tell when in-game pausing).
I still find the DS version to be my favorite, but it's freaking Chrono Trigger - it's amazing anywhere, in whatever form.
I love the ps1 translation so much. I didn't mind the loading times. It does retain old English frog, which I greatly missed that in the ds version.
So good it's time to watch it again... might as well since it was reuploaded XD
Austin You made a comprehensive and Great comparison video.. Thank you
I discovered the i-mobile version just a few days ago, so it was a pleasant surprise to see you covert it
Thanks for the reupload. I didn't even knew you did a video about Chrono Trigger
OMG, I love this kind of videos! I know that is hard to gather all that info, soooo you have earned a new subscriber! 🤩😋
I think the only versions missing for me is the snes and mobile. I never had a chance to play CC on PSX so my first experience was on the DS. I do have it on steam and should probably give it a play sometime, been years since I last played. The differences are so interesting. I really hope the steam version fixes the bugs and add missing FMVs/content. Though seems easier just to emulate the DS version for missing content purposes.
It's a truly mind blowing game.
you put alot of effort into this...
And I'm really glad you made it...
I think i speak for everyone when i say,
We can't wait for your next chrono triggers
comparisons video
To the sequel of chrono trigger
chrono cross..
5****
Time / space
Rock the clock !
Very informative video as always. I had already started with the DS port a while ago but wasn't aware about some of the changes.
On another topic, I would love to see you cover the very first Persona someday, as it seems there is some major changes between ports.
Video about Persona 1 would be quite short considering there's pretty much just the Japanese PS1 version, the localized western version that is outright missing it's secret alternative story mode and the PSP remake.
It did recieve a very early Windows port as well. But is not like a shorter video would be bad
I thought of getting the Steam version [now in 2022] since Chrono Cross got released today, as I've never finished that one, but I think I'll just stick to the original on SNES for CT. I would love to try the extra content, but otherwise, the game is just perfect for me as it is. I've seen the cut scenes on TH-cam... so, eh, I'm good.
man this is an absurdely good video
I hope we can get the PS1 version ported to PS5 someday with trophies!
I have to wonder if SE is planning to do more with this series in the near future. They're finally remastering Chrono Cross, and I didn't realize until now that they'd been recently updating the Steam release of Chrono Trigger. It's odd to see them suddenly caring about these games again
Cross did just hit that point where the original game isn't a viable way to play it anymore, so the timing makes sense.
I'm hoping it means they're planning to do something too, even if it's just something Chrono themed in FF14. Been a fan for a long time, I'd like to get *something*.
God the remaster was so sad, it runs worse than PS1 how is that even possible
Those sequels suck.
I'm about to replay this game for the first time in a quarter century and based on this video I'll be doing it on the SNES. Thanks for the comparison. I actually never completed all the optional content as a kid and I'm really looking forward to it.
Is it weird that I prefer the compression on the DS audio? There’s something charming and nostalgic about it, even though I never played Chrono Trigger on the DS and in fact never played it at all until recently.
Battle 1 sounded better on ds from the comparison
Great video! I'm still deciding between the DS version rom on original hardware or the SNES ver. on an emulator with CRT filter, but since I don't own an original copy of those I'll buy the steam version to support them.
Well if you have a hacked Wii U you can play the DS version in a CRT, with both screens and an official emulator.
@@perezkoala i don't think the Wii U supports 240p output tho
@@perezkoala Wii U only supports 480i which doesn’t look great for games that were intended for 240p
Thank you for this video. As someone who hasn't played this game before, I'll go with the DS version of it.
Hi @AustinSV. I just started watching your videos and enjoy your depth, but I am left wanting some closure at the end. I feel that it's not very clear what your preferences are and the videos have lacked a summary of all of the detail you go over. Basically a standard conclusion paragraph. Would you consider summarizing your content at the end so it's easier to select a version of a game i'm interested in?
Makes me so happy that I bought this game new/sealed not at launch or at a retail store. Online, when game collecting was FUN and not HELLa expensive. STILL use my DS Lite today and try to collect for it properly, so far about 105 games.
I played the DS version briefly since it was a rom on a R4 chip but then it got corrupted. I am glad I grew up with the SNES version playing it at my cousins house when we were kids. I do have the PSone on vita but the loading on battles isn’t too bad.
Well... I was waiting for a conclusion in the end... nice video
The load-time issue with the PS1/3 releases are unique to the US versions, this does not happen in the EU and JP versions. I'm familiar with the matter because many years ago people were wondering why this was happening and no clear answer could be found, but it was only affecting people with the US version... at the time, nobody in the emulation community had done any code-analysis on this yet.
What EU version? Chrono Trigger was never released in the EU for th PS1.
@@19Szabolcs91 I'm pretty sure there was... I think it was the SNES version that wasn't released in Europe.
@@warlockpaladin2261 The PS1 version wasn't released either.
@@19Szabolcs91 ...
Great review just like all your FF version comparisons…and a Maximillian Dood Easter egg to boot!
The mobile version didn't originally have that awful smoothing, I was in the middle of a playthrough when the "update" hit and kind of destroyed me wanting to complete it... Kind of hope SE puts it on Switch eventually.
Same! I remember being excited for an update and then deeply regretting pressing update.
Exactly, it was a terrible surprise...
And the fact that they didn't make it optional for mobile like on Steam is even worse.
Did they no revert it? Or make it selectable?
@@TomAnderson7 As far as I can tell from looking up a few post about it, they haven't changed the visuals nor added the ability to revert it back to normal despite apparently releasing a new update back in March.
@@tallestlalafell2345 Such a shame. Sticking to piracy then
I bought the mobile version the iPhone store. I’m working my way through it. Thanks for the info.
now i am even more undecicive on which version to play XD
God, that snes box art invokes so much nostalgia and memory. Its too legendary
I grew up watching my older cousin play this on the Playstation. Later on in the mid-2000s I got my DS (the original fat one) and I asked my mom to buy me Chrono Trigger soon after it released. I finally got to experience the game firsthand on my own and all the new additions to the DS version made it feel like a completely new experience. To this day it is still one of, if not my favorite (J)RPG to date.
I remember playing this to 100% on SNES ages ago, absolute classic, probably my favorite overall experience in gaming. At some point I tried the mobile version and found out that various item names such as Tonics were changed, how many of the other versions still have the item names I'm used to? I'm currently thinking of trying either the PS1 version or the DS version, but as someone that didn't really get into chrono cross any content that connects the games after the fact sounds unnecessary to me.
DS version is far superior...content wise it's complete and ties in well with Chrono Cross
PS version has loading times at every battle. Probably one of the worst versions our there.
Definitely get the DS version! Having played the original SNES version as a kid, the DS version brought out that kid in me again like crazy.
Chrono Trigger is almost impossible to find on DS now. I’ve got the 2DSXL, which plays every 3DS and DS game I think, but there are “copies” floating around saying they only work with original DS, leading me to believe they’re ROMs or duplications. I have also seen some Japanese import versions of the game that seem more available to purchase compared to the US version. Any idea if that’s a viable option? Would the text auto-translate to English if I used the Japanese import (since my 2DSXL is USA registered)? Just thought I’d ask around, since internet searches have been confusing, and most internet posts are years old by now.
I've been looking forward to this video for a while.
Btw, I managed to go to a used game shop and pick up Baiten Kaitos, DQ V and 6 for DS, and Chrono Trigger, for like $40 in total. My only regret was not picking up DQ 9 at the time as well. This was like 5 years ago though.
Lol
That Maximillian cameo though.
Two small changes that baffled me about the PC/mobile version, the names were reduced to a max of 5 characters even though the DS version allowed 6. Which allowed you to actually name Crono Chrono. Also the option to change the background pallet of the text box entirely.
I personally like the DS version, specifically because it has the four added dungeons and associated quests and the Dream Devourer fight that links Trigger to Cross. It also has the cutscenes from the PS1 version.
tried steam version, couldn't do proper crt filter. switched to snes retroarch, koko-aio, with commodore night shader it looks great. I'm enjoying my first time playing the game.
3:07 So THAT'S why the squeaking of the menu cursor movement drove my ears crazy on PS1!
Not only did it sound wrong, but it sounded like metal squeaking against metal!
I played the PC version and I quite liked it.
IMO UI for the PC version (the newer on, not the mobile port UI) is really good. Having health bars imo is just a must especially in active time battles where quickly gauging how much HP party members have left is important
Looking forward to a comparison video on Radical Dreamers.
Picked up the PS1 version digitally on PS3 and Vita. I can confirm that the fast disc read option on vita does make the load times a little better, though it seems to be by less than the PS2 fast read (It could be that they are the same but I have no way to test as I don't own a physical version of Chrono Trigger PS1 to test on PS2. If they are different the difference is barely noticeable). Based on my experience with other PS1 games on PSP, it should be about the same as Vita though I haven't tested it myself.
I'm pretty sure Dimensional Vortex isn't exclusive to NG+. you just have to reload your save once you beat the game
Another good one, thanks!
Until some proper re-master, re-make or port is done for Switch (or the next Nintendo console), the DS version will remain the best version to play for anyone.
Why?!
I played the Wii Virtual Console port of the SNES game however many years ago. It was great.
3:12 What was the missing ending from the english snes localisation ? And this emding and image Was included on the ds versãon ?
I was today years old when I found out my DS copy of this game is worth triple digits. wow, I got it new at a flea market.
Sell it and get the japanese version for cheap. Japanese ds version has english text.
I expect the PS1 loading is probably something weird and unrelated to the disc speed for the most part, like decompression or something. Having the load times be deliberately programmed to be that long seems like a bizarre decision since everyone hated it even at the time, unless it was done to make sure all the files had loaded in or something.
It's because. Apparently. The game is running an emulator in an emulator.
Add that to PS3 and it's yet another stack of emulator.
I got the Steam version just 2 weeks ago cause it was on sale, I'm having a blast playing it with Reshade CRT filters on. Although it's nice to have a physical copy, getting it digitally through steam and having the money go to Square isn't so bad. With Chrono Cross coming to Switch, I hope they announce Chrono trigger too at some point
I didn't think about that, but yeah having both games ported to newer platforms would be great! Course we're still waiting to see if the FF Pixel Remasters will comes to more platfroms as well.
Never pay for ports, it incentivizes developer lazyness, and stops them from innovating and making more good games.
@@hellfire92837 What are you basing that on?
@@hellfire92837 You realize developers have different teams for different games right. Porting a game doesn't stop a new game from being made. Especially a company like square enix that has multiple studios under it.
@@izumichan31 Yeah, now that I think about it, ports are usually done by different studios.
I'd like to see a comparison video for FF Tactics. Obviously War of the Lions is superior to the PS1 version, but the tablet version of WotL had some slowdown issues during big magic spells if your tablet wasn't powerful enough.
All versions of WoTL have slowdowns with abilities/spells, from that I've seen. Even back on the PSP when it first came out it had the massive slowdowns (on original hardware or emulated). That was enough to kill it for me and I can only play the original PS1 version of the game, despite their being less content.
I enjoyed the DS version as I've played CT about 100 times already. Great game, and the extras were repetitive but still fun.
A 2.5D remake could be incredible with the right art direction and director.
Question: Are the versions with the additional ending setting up Chrono Cross worth speeding through before the rerelease to set it up, or is it still worth waiting to take time with this game later?
Take time with it
Not really, as Chrono Cross just doesn't work well at all as a sequel to Trigger. It's better off being thought of as its own game.
Hey man, can you maybe do a video about the first 6 final fantasy games and compare them? I never played any of them, only 7 remake and 15. And i would like to try out the older games. I read that they all have differences in good story, good Battlesystem, different job systems and so on.
So you would make a comparison on which Game is focused on what. I dont know if you understand what i mean 🙈😅
It’s surprisingly seamless on iOS. Looks and sounds great.
Brought it to the gym today for the treadmill.
How about covering the three versions of the original The World Ends With You game? Or all the versions of No More Heroes 1?
Fun fact: The Japanese DS version can be played in English if you toggle the English option in the menu or play it on an English language DS or 3DS system!
Are there any other games that do that?
@@gaylordfocker7990 Yeah some Gyakuten Saiban/ Ace Attorney games have an english option as well
On top my head
DS versions of the first three Ace Attorney games
Super Metroid
Final Fantasy X International (PS2 only)
Metal Gear Solid Integral (item descriptions are still in Japanese)
Metal Gear Solid The Twin Snakes
Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance
Super Smash Bros Melee
Any Japanese version of a 1st Party Nintendo Switch game ( I’m sure this is the case for some 3rd stuff released worldwide)
All Pokémon games from Gen 6 onward
Even more fun fact, the Nintendo DS was the last true handheld before the Switch where the hardware was actually region free. They started region locking their handheld system once they updated to the DSi and into the 3DS. While I applaud Satoru Iwata and Reggie for bringing success to the Wii and DS, region locking the Wii, DSi, 3DS, and Wii U were the worst decision ever made for gaming and Nintendo wonder why their stocks are falling once the 3DS and Wii U launch.
@@VOAN Yeah, we all knew that brother. Just wondering which DS games would actually recognize or dismiss region-locking and actually translate to the proper langy on actual hardware.
Great content. Thank you.
Thanks for covering My favorite game, rpg with greatest story between Trigger and Cross world.
Played it when it came out for SNES :)
I know I am late here, I’m playing this on Steam Deck and it’s phenomenal, only issue is the face buttons when you are entering passwords in certain levels
just got this for pc i've played this game so much over the years since its release on SNES then got it on PS1 when it released as well never owned the DS version love this game so much its one of my fav rpg's it is a true classic that will never get old
I see a lot of people saying they need to do a 2.5d remake and while that would be cool I'd much prefer a pixel remaster cause there just currently isn't that perfect version of the original and if they do a pixel remaster where they AI upscale or even redraw the anime cutscenes add some remastered music and some other nice features that would be perfect imo cause the original is literally one of the best looking SNES games in existence which means it's gorgeously detailed pixel art.
If they wanna do a 2.5d remake after that then fine but the original deserves a version where the very few problems that exist get fixed first.
Playstion version for me, only because I have a goal of playing it 99 times with 99 of items, (that carry over on NG+) SNES save got corrupted after 7 playthroughs, but, it was only a barrowed copy anyways. So since 2001, I am now currently at 55 playthroughs and just started 56. Just used to the slow loading at this point.
Without a doubt, the SNES version is the best. The PS1 version is great for the cutscenes but the loading times (probably because of the CD instead of cartridge) just kills the game flow. On the SNES there was almost no charging time from the beggining to the end of the game.
One thing you missed is the sprites for the playable characters on the Overworld are totally different in the Steam version.
Never played the game before so this is super helpful. Great job
which version are you choosing?
@maynardcortes1493 I ended up getting the ios version. It's pretty good all things considering.
I think I read something about the PS ports of these games that explained why the load times are so bad. It said that the game is basically running a ROM in a poorly-optimized emulator that dumps the RAM every time and it has to load EVERYTHING back into memory. I don't know if that's correct, but it sounds plausible to me.
I read somewhere that it was patching the text in the Japanese version in real time, repeatedly--Did anyone check if the Japanese version isn't that slow?
@@BagOfMagicFood Nother comment on here said it was only slow in the Us version
Played it with PS1 and yeah, the load times do strech the game, but I didn't mind it too much. Really hope the release it on Switch.
OG and DS are much better indeed and to have the option to disable anime cutscene is God send as I always like it to be everything in game much better for immersion.
I had the DS version of Chrono Trigger but returned it the next day cuz I was at the time tired of turn based combat, little did I know I missed out on one of the greatest JRPGs of all time. Now finding a DS copy is near impossible. This is my karma.
I was in a local gamestop a few years ago and found a DS copy for 20 or 25 dollars. I grew up on the SNES version and immediately bought the DS copy, it boggles my mind to see what they're going for now and I never plan on selling mine
Heh you should’ve kept it obviously you deserve this
@@timroehm1728 I've actually since then managed to find a copy for $41 so I can begin my redemption arc and right my wrong LOL
I have a new problem, Chrono Trigger via the SNES version on Analgue Pocket vs the DS version on New 3DS?
I have the DS version, but I did get the PS FF Chronicles, mostly for FFIV, which is a pretty decent port, thankfully.
I can say that the DS verison of this game is amazing! Very good choice, even if you wanna emulate it. I own the Steam verison, but I'm probably not gonna play it due to the bad things I've heard about it. The worst was about it damaging your computer a bit, but i'm don't know the truth on that.
I think they fixed it.
I've been palying it. Only issue for me is that it doesn't work super well on Linux 😔