How Adult ADHD Goes Undetected

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  • @pyrethorn
    @pyrethorn ปีที่แล้ว +179

    I got my diagnosis at 38. It only happened because a friend told me that I had ADHD. I didn't believe it. Then they started listing the symptoms. I hit every single one of them. So I went to the doctor, got a referral to a specialist and got my diagnosis. It made things make sense. I had always thought that I was bad at life. Why couldn't I just do things? Why was it so easy for everyone else? I just assumed that I was lazy. When I finally got medication for it, it was like night and day. Like finding out that life had an easy mode and I'd been playing on hard mode my entire life. Also turns out that all my close friends have either adhd, asd or both. It certainly explained why I gravitated towards neuro-divergent people.

    • @kmimiteh
      @kmimiteh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I feel very related. I am 37 now, and also many of my friends have neuro-divergent brains (not all), and I tgought the same way as u (I am just more lazy, I have no self-discipline,...) and now I can see it more and more clear.

    • @MrPrebuttal
      @MrPrebuttal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Which meds did you take and how has it benefitted your life?

    • @nikalasnalter4431
      @nikalasnalter4431 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      mate i feel u

    • @abdullakc
      @abdullakc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What!. I also took life in the hard way. I quit school for 4 years and graduated late. Then now I graduated from University at the age of 36! With this problem! Never knew.

    • @the_synack
      @the_synack 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm 37 and I just had a similar conversation with my friends. They started listing off symptoms and I was able to tick almost all the same boxes. I'm going to see a doctor as well here soon to find out for certain.

  • @johnmoore1495
    @johnmoore1495 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    To anyone out there who has been struggling with “anxiety” and/or “depression” for 5-10+ years and your life really hasn’t improved through medication and therapy. I would highly recommend looking into ADHD.
    Yes you may have had anxiety and you may actually get depressed, but if you have ADHD then the anxiety and even more so the depression, will almost always keep returning if the ADHD is left untreated.
    ADHD fuels anxiety, give someone a brain that’s thinking constantly and combine it with some nervousness and you can see how that gets out of hand. Likewise if you’re someone with untreated ADHD you’re likely going to have many many failures academically and professionally in your adult life which in turn leads to depression as your peers leave you in the dust.
    The first time I took a stimulant, I can’t explain it, the world was just quiet and I could communicate without thinking about it. The day I took it I also had an Anatomy test (going to school to be a RN), we have to identify ~50 structures with no word bank, it’s all from memory. Well normally I was getting 60-65%, but the day I took the stimulant I got a 94%. My brain was empty enough that I could actually pull the names from memory.

    • @49ersfoldem
      @49ersfoldem ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes yes yes this describes me perfectly

    • @BSG0005
      @BSG0005 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow thank u for this. Pretty sure this is me!

    • @PayterX
      @PayterX 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We have almost identical stories, except mine was Paramedic school. I never would have had a chance at passing without treatment. Then somehow everyone at work finds out that you have a prescription for stimulants, so now everyone constantly harasses you for some. I know if most of them would just go talk to a psychiatrist they would more than likely leave that day with a prescription of their own. Ironically it's as if the medical field itself has the highest number of untreated ADD/ADHD adults.
      At least in the pre-hospital environment, things get crazy enough, often enough, that you have no choice but to pay attention to what is happening, and to fix it now. And the ability to focus on everything all at once is almost a super power on a lot of scenes.

    • @johnmoore1495
      @johnmoore1495 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PayterX yeah I’ve refrained from telling anyone I’m on it besides my mom, just so someone knows incase I have some adverse event. Otherwise I feel like most people in my life would say I’m “cheating” etc etc

    • @Bavubuka
      @Bavubuka 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you mean by stimulant? Coffee?

  • @CortexNewsService
    @CortexNewsService ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Both my sister and I got diagnosed with ADHD in our 40s. Hyperactive for her, inattentive for me. We didn't realize until my niece was diagnosed at 10. My sister asked why because she had the same habits as my niece. The doctor's response was "I'm sure you do."
    "....Oh. This explains so much of the past 40 years."

    • @WiseSquirrels
      @WiseSquirrels ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This comes up so often when children get diagnosed and adults notice the traits in themselves. ADHD is highly hereditary.

  • @trishferrer8209
    @trishferrer8209 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I was diagnosed w/ADHD at age 40. I'm 64 now, still living w/all the symptoms, but more accepting of myself. I initially went to the therapist to find out WHAT was wrong with me! I had experienced a lifetime of trauma after trauma, failing classes in school, job losses, being extraordinarily "curious" (playing with dangerous things) and high risk-taking, etc. Today, I am a gardener, and I know that it's an obsession and I get hyper focused on whatever I'm doing. Hate getting interrupted when I'm in the middle of something; I NEED to get to at least a "stopping point", and although my hyperactivity was definitely there when I was young, now it seems to be in my head - very busy thoughts and very chaotic dreams.
    I do have hyper bursts during the day, but being "older" I also take breaks, and feel very unfocused. When I got my diagnosis at 40, I was totally shocked, because I had only ever heard of boys having ADHD, and that it was a childhood condition (implying you "outgrow" this way of being). I have always been very creative, and still am. I'm still learning to understand myself, and I call ADHD my superpower. lol

  • @emb3863
    @emb3863 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    So I have a story, when I was like 25/26 someone suggested I go to the psychiatrist so I did and they were immediately after talking to me for like 27 seconds like "um were you ever diagnosed with ADHD?" and I was like oh? ... and then like a year later during the pandemic a friend of my sister reached out and, she did an assessment of me in the early 00s when I was like 10 because she was getting her degree at the time so she asked my parents permission to do some stuff with me and she came to the conclusion I had ADHD but for some reason never mentioned it to anyone and I was so angry for a while after I found out... there was someone out there that did notice that knew and they didn't bring it up like...

    • @pbsvitals
      @pbsvitals  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That is pretty frustrating! How did you follow up after your diagnosis? Did it make a big difference for you?

    • @eileengale7661
      @eileengale7661 ปีที่แล้ว

      People still are uncertain and make mistakes. To tackle these things like a neurotypical person would won’t help a neurodivergent person. We have to find our own way to accept what happened and keep finding our best way. The betrayals sit deeper. If that makes sense. It takes practice to let go and move on but it IS possible. Having compassion for ourselves and others is definitely a big help in this.

  • @ALADDIN22091978
    @ALADDIN22091978 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    No more diagnoses. I had a nervous breakdown to get my ADHD detected February 2020, aged 41, diagnosed 6 months later, only given medication. I got diagnosed with dyspraxia aged 33, Aspergers traits aged 25. I got my degree aged 20, 1999, pgdip 2000.
    I am of Middle Eastern origin.
    My ADHD was missed , because I was well behaved in school, intelligent and driven.
    I have underachieved in my life .
    I feel it is too late , sadly .
    Moving forward in life is not easy .

    • @inigma161
      @inigma161 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I totally get how you feel I was diagnosed about the same age .. but there is hope for us! Don’t ever give up!

    • @inigma161
      @inigma161 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I totally get how you feel I was diagnosed about the same age .. but there is hope for us! Don’t ever give up!

    • @ALADDIN22091978
      @ALADDIN22091978 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@inigma161 People with ADHD , rarely quit , they often show determination and resilience.

    • @ALADDIN22091978
      @ALADDIN22091978 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@inigma161 People wiry ADHD, rarely quit , they often show determination and resilience.

  • @hunterG60k
    @hunterG60k ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I find it somewhat confusing and immensely frustrating that there is such stigma around ADHD medication; while Drs are happy to hand out antidepressants left right and centre. The ones I'm on are highly addictive to the point where if I miss a *single dose* I will have debilitating withdrawal symptoms.
    Also, oh what a surprise, when people are medicated properly they don't feel the need to self medicate later in life. Honestly, the world really needs to get itself together when it comes to psychological issues. The general culture and understanding around these things is absolutely archaic.

    • @pbsvitals
      @pbsvitals  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Agree! Cultural images and stereotypes often shape the way that medical professionals view different drugs and medications. It's not always conscious...

    • @saraleigh5336
      @saraleigh5336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not to mention the shortages.

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pbsvitals It is absolutely conscious because often ADHD is overlooked and ignored simply because most Doctors don't want the responsibility of prescribing to adults. Any chance of misuse often outweighs the obvious indications and benefit and that culture has become increasingly more pervasive since the Rx opioids (and by extension, all controlled subs) media frenzy.

    • @SnailHatan
      @SnailHatan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Uh, stimulants are some of the most addictive drugs in existence. Obviously. Antidepressants are all, or nearly all, able to get a prescription for from a single 10 minute conversation with a regular doctor.

    • @dawggonevidz9140
      @dawggonevidz9140 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Demoralized88 The same doctors who were happy to feed me synthetic opiates for chronic pain for 9 years tell me the CBD and THC I got off them with doesn't work. Opiates cost me my gall bladder, parts of my lower intestine and my general health. I could have been getting the same level of relief from cannabidiol products. They don't even want to talk about having ADD meds with the only muscle relaxant, anti spasmodic and pain relief medication I can tolerate at the same time. 'Pick which illness you want to treat because we can't treat both.' NO, you don't want to treat either. Not unless it's from a company sending you to Hawaii for a big conference every year.

  • @legiontheatregroup
    @legiontheatregroup 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was great. My only caution, and this video was not too far in this direction, is that I do see a tendency online to suggest boys with ADHD are easier to detect than women, because their symptoms are more external. I am male and was never physically hyperactive. My mind is hyperactive compared to most people - but I had no way to realize that, since I have always been the way I am. All I knew was that my outcomes were different from most people, although why was a big mystery, until I was diagnosed in my 50s. It is also kind of silly when I hear people say "ADHD is a made up disorder, everybody gets distracted these days" because ADHD is SO much more than that. It has big positives and big negatives - it is like a disorder of extremes. I have always exceeded in specific things most people struggle with, and I wildly struggle with certain things others find easy. It isn't really distraction at all, true ADHD is much more than that. And as challenging as it is it can also be exciting.

  • @craigparse1439
    @craigparse1439 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    5:06 I can relate to this. I got diagnosed about a month ago at age 57. I can clearly remember when I was in Elementary School (in the 1970's), my teachers would often tell me to stay on task and to stop daydreaming.

  • @jso6790
    @jso6790 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I have wondered for years if I had ADHD because of my forgetfulness and constant procrastination as various intrusive thoughts enter when I am engaged in a task, but also do not want to trivialize the experience of those who genuinely struggle with the condition. The one time I went to Psychologist, it seemed like I was fine, and my college experience also was more about potential depression than anything else, but now I am reconsidering again. Thank you for you.

    • @pbsvitals
      @pbsvitals  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We know the feeling! It can be very tricky to sort out these issues. Good luck!

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Getting taken seriously for Adult ADHD is almost impossible if presenting with depression and/or anxiety. I got diagnosed at 32, and it wasn't until after I realized my cognitive dysfunction was prevalent by middle school and that the depression and generalized anxiety didn't really start until my later teens - almost certainly as a result of my real and perceived failures.
      From my experience and extensive research, I strongly believe Adult ADHD presents differently with a fully matured brain versus a developing one. The most concrete symptoms in adults tends to be: 1. poor working memory (especially if noticeably declined since young), 2. inner restlessness and impatience (versus hyperactivity/fidgetting when young), 3. inability to focus on non-stimulating activity like reading but not gaming/video, 4. general executive dysfunction and lack of drive/motivation i.e. procrastinating, indecision, brain farts followed by lucidity, lack of energy, feeling overwhelmed with no external pressures. Those are some that became much more noticeable for me by my mid 20s whereas I used to be way more outwardly symptomatic in in to my mid teens. Never hyperactive, but clearly outwardly restless and seemingly not paying attention. The Depression/anxiety symptoms have (some) overlap with mostly my 4th point, and Doctors will focus on that if you do not state that the ADHD symptoms came before.

    • @jso6790
      @jso6790 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Demoralized88 Wow. Thank you so much for taking the time to share so much. I see some things in what you shared that do resonate with me, but also areas where I diverge.
      I hope that you now have an effective treatment plan and are managing in the best way possible! We all should get to enjoy that peace of mind.
      (Incidentally, my late elementary school through the end of high school, I used to meditate intensively. My mom at first thought I was becoming a Satanish.. ha, but when I got to college with all that was there, I remember saying consciously "My Iron will got broken". I wasn't sleeping, I was super excited by all the amazing people I was meeting and just this incredible world I had entered into.
      What is fascinating about that college experience is that I struggled mightily and ended up doing massive course overloads just to graduate with honors. While running non-stop from class to class I didn't have a lot of procrastination time.. though still poor time management skills. Anyway, I largely didn't think about all I had learned until I entered grad school and suddenly I just seemed to "know" things, as in I had learned an incredible amount in college, but just couldn't access it until grad school which was a very different time, where I was pretty lonely and isolated and giving all of my out of school time to the non-profit where I volunteered. I share all this to say that your line about Executive Function really struck and I wonder if that is where my issues were.
      Again, thank you so very much for sharing thoughtful information. I am sorry for my stream of consciousness response. You have given me a great deal of food for thought... but oh yeah.. I have to finish grading some papers for my Rhetorical Criticism students.. ha

    • @WiseSquirrels
      @WiseSquirrels ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depression can be a symptom of ADHD.

    • @SLynn349
      @SLynn349 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You probably definitely have adhd and as someone with adhd I don’t feel what you’re saying is intrusive at all it’s very valid. Let’s say you have plans at 5pm, you look at the clock it’s 1:30pm. You know that means it’s almost two and you’ll have to leave by 4 to make your plans on time so you only realistically have two hours to get ready. This can seem stressful, now you’re thinking of everything you need to prepare to get ready and all these other things that come along with getting where you’re going on time and also the mental and emotional preparedness you’ll need to go through with these plans so by the time you’re getting ready, you can be exhausted just from thinking about it alone lol
      Does that sound familiar?

  • @darylcauvin4957
    @darylcauvin4957 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I'm 40 and very soon I'm getting tested for adhd & autism...this video was fantastic because I really felt like people were describing me...its a peaceful emotion I'm experiencing because of this video. Hopefully that will be an everyday occurance. Thanks

    • @drizzy6302
      @drizzy6302 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How can you dont know u have autism

  • @montithered4741
    @montithered4741 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    2:06
    And what if it isn’t traceable back to childhood?
    That seems like a crucial part of the diagnosis.
    I see potential for harm and neglect here because there may be environmental factors which cause or exacerbate symptoms.

    • @TheMrsShephard
      @TheMrsShephard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm wondering the same thing. I have all the symptoms now (31 yo), but I didn't fit the diagnosis as a child.

    • @brian9827
      @brian9827 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ctpsd and chronic use of marijuana could lead to adhd like symptoms. my psych and therapist have mentioned those when getting to understand my adhd

  • @HP_Quinn
    @HP_Quinn ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for this video!
    I was diagnosed with both ASD and ADHD earlier this year at 35 years old (already having major depressive disorder and generalized anxiety disorder diagnoses since early adulthood.)
    These diagnoses explain so much about myself & my life; it's as though I'm finally beginning to learn about who I am.

    • @pbsvitals
      @pbsvitals  ปีที่แล้ว

      Congratulations on getting some clarity with this. Good luck!

  • @johnmoore1495
    @johnmoore1495 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    9:52 is misinforming the audience. Non-stimulants definitely need to build up in your system before they work and they definitely need to be taken everyday, especially medications like atomoxetine, bupropion, and viloxazine. Atomoxetine takes 4+ weeks in most studies to show any significant clinical benefit. Non-stimulants are also significantly less effective than stimulants.
    No doctor in their right mind would prescribe atomoxetine on an “as needed” basis, any benefit would be placebo.

  • @eliscanfield3913
    @eliscanfield3913 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My son was officially diagnosed with ADHD in 1st grade, though it had been suspected since he was in preschool, and lets just say, I wasn't surprised when his teachers suggested it. My little brother has it too, tho without the hyperactive part.
    We put Son on medication and dear god, the difference it made in his academics. He's still learning how to self-redirect and needs more time to finish his school work than average but he's not far off the median in any subject and is actually a bit above in reading. I kid you not, nor do I exaggerate, when I say he went from reading 2 or 3 words at a time to short paragraphs in TWO WEEKS after his first dose.

    • @WiseSquirrels
      @WiseSquirrels ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a happy story. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @CB4mo_nofomo
    @CB4mo_nofomo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this thank you!! I was initially diagnosed in college and didn’t think much of it but the medication helped me study. Once I was assessed and officially diagnosed with ADHD in my 30’s, I was truly struggling and took the time to learn about it which, like they said in the video, you look back at your life differently and I went through the grieving process but I also joined a support group, began therapy, and medication. I realized it wasn’t just me and I’m not the only one experiencing these things. I’m still learning to cope and find out where I fit in this world but having the knowledge and support that opened up to me through a diagnosis definitely helps.

  • @brendanhoffmann8402
    @brendanhoffmann8402 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I read a book that made me realise I had it. At age 44! Starting to work on healing myself with the help of my therapist but can't wait to try the medication. Mostly working on the shame that drives it. The shame of being 'crazy' my whole life and of being punished so severely for that perceived 'craziness'. I realised I've been very unkind to myself, constantly having self critical voices in my head which I neurotically defended night and day. I've shut those voices down now and there's just the feeling of shame. I've been hiding from that feeling through drugs and alcohol for years. I need to feel it fully and take ownership of it. Taking ownership of my rage too. I'm seeing my Mum as an ally maybe for the first time in my life but I'm still easily triggered, I hope the medication and therapy can help with that. Reading audiobooks is what saved me, I don't have the concentration to listen for long so have constant zoning out breaks to regain my focus. Cannabis has helped me focus but now need to quit it because it just numbs the feelings I need to get in touch with.

  • @Tiffanylouisekelly
    @Tiffanylouisekelly 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was diagnosed with adhd today.
    I couldn’t ever work out why I can’t have my life together like everyone else, but now it all makes sense.
    I’m so hoping there’s light at the end of this tunnel now. It’s so hard to live with.
    Everyone can get on so well with life,& us adhders find the simplest of things near on impossible. It’s so so so hard.
    Let’s hope people keep speaking up,& getting better 👌
    You’ve all got this, you’re not broken, you’re heard, you’re loved. 🥰

  • @vdsilva6806
    @vdsilva6806 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a 69 years old ADHD person, I am hyper focused to your report. Thank you so much. My hope is to teach ADHD students as an ADHD Bible teacher.

  • @linda3482
    @linda3482 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It is really not only that symptoms are different in adult. ADHD simply was not known before. Just got diagnosed at age 53. The symptoms where there all my life. Got through by being fortuned to have good common sence and never giving up but life was always a strunggle. I did get a job, bought a house, raised a child and was smart enough not to get myself in to much debt but it was always like cycling against the wind ( I am Dutch so to put some Dutch refrence) till I simply was tired of fighting a got burned out. It was my company doctor who send me the ADHD route. ADHD entered the DSM in 1986. I finished highschool already by then. I studied social work early 90's but hardly heard anything about ADHD. Even worked in a youth prison as a social therapist and met boys with ADHD but those where there because they commited serious crime. Of course I did get some suspicion lateron. But still. As an adult symptoms are different but also it was simply not a thing, it " didn't exist " and you can not get diagnosed for something that doesn't even exist.

    • @legiontheatregroup
      @legiontheatregroup 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That is such a great point! My story is the same, I was diagnosed in my 50s. It explained so many things - like why I did pretty well in High School without really trying, yet failed spectacularly my first year in college (removal of imposed structure). This and SO many things in my life - both unusual positives and spectacular negatives - were just big mysteries until I read Driven To Distraction, which was not published until the 1990s.

  • @brydcsd
    @brydcsd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm 36. turning 37 this year. all the symptoms listed are ticked. now I am aware that I have ADHD, but I don't have the means to seek professional consultation. I'm anxious, depressed, broke 😢

    • @phineasthegreat2402
      @phineasthegreat2402 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’d recommend looking for a counselor/therapist who works on a sliding scale. If you have no family with financial resources, there are usually programs which provide medical assistance through your city, county or state. A teaching hospital could be another resource for medical assistance. Being broke (which I am all the time) makes the anxiety and depression worse. I hope you find the help you need and start feeling better.

    • @dawggonevidz9140
      @dawggonevidz9140 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@phineasthegreat2402 Yeah I've been hearing about unicorns like that for the last six years. They don't exist. The funding that is supposed to be going to help people goes instead into the pockets of therapists and bureaucrats who tell you their hands are tied. The best part of our wonderous system to help the wealthy is looking for those supports and failing to find them exacerbates and aggravates the symptoms of the very same disorder they say they can't diagnose you with.

  • @gavinkaufmanworld
    @gavinkaufmanworld 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is one of the best videos about ADHD I've seen - thanks 😁 I was diagnosed with combined type ADHD last week at the age of 40 😅

  • @q2oebunch
    @q2oebunch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a conversation yesterday afternoon and literally I needed to hear this. Confirmation!!!

  • @skybluskyblueify
    @skybluskyblueify ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What about "rejection sensitivity"?

    • @pbsvitals
      @pbsvitals  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For sure! We couldn't list everything within the episode (Athough Alice alluded to this), but many people mention rejection sensitivity as a common companion to ADHD. It's pretty obvious in friends and family, too.

    • @WiseSquirrels
      @WiseSquirrels ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RSD can be a comorbidity of ADHD, but it's not included in the DSM. At least, that's what I have learned along my journey.

  • @Herr_Vorragender
    @Herr_Vorragender ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very interesting and super important topic. Thank you for adressing it. 😊
    Maybe, if there is time to spend, we'd also be interested in SCT (The ADHD opposite)? 🤔😉

  • @Reticulosis
    @Reticulosis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, that explains so much. I thought I just had: depression anxiety, difficulty hearing (I was in the service so that may be a coincidence), sleep problems, boarder line personality disorder (unstable self image and sense of self, fear of abandonment , intense relationships, fear of abandonment). As of the end of the video, it now it makes a lot of sense. It’s funny because all of these traits help me be a great healthcare provider; I literally have awards because of it. The traits also helped make me great soldier when I was in the service. I don’t know that I want to seek pharmacology intervention though. I will eventually seek psychological help fo a diagnosis, though.

  • @wildboy4983
    @wildboy4983 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i have bordering the idea of adhd with me for a while but this 2:08, trace back to child hood yes their are so many things i haven't noticed until recently. always thought it was just cause it happens but a lot of problems i have rn can be linked back to younger so thats great to know

  • @MsFunkypish
    @MsFunkypish 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do a daily list...tried oostits etc but then forget to look at them....best thing ever for me...alarm app in phone..never miss appointments now. Wish I could get a diagnosis and meds..can't afford private clinic

  • @dawggonevidz9140
    @dawggonevidz9140 วันที่ผ่านมา

    diagnosed as a 5 year old in 1981. My mother decided she did not want her kid taking amphetamines, so I wasn't medicated. As the years passed and I just forgot I'd had that diagnosis I guess. Never did well at school. Never really figured out how to socialise like everyone else. hit my teens, couldn't self regulate, chased stimulation from high risk behaviours, got in trouble with the police, never managed to get any kind of work. Flash forward past decades of failure and not assimilating, I mentioned to my mother I wondered if I might have ADD or something. That's when I find out she knew all along, Diagnosis records were lost. Now I can't afford to get a diagnosis to be able to access supports to deal with it. I meltdown every day I'm so angry about it all.

  • @resourceress7
    @resourceress7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Where is the link to that Venn diagram that you briefly had on the screen?

    • @pbsvitals
      @pbsvitals  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's in the show description - but here it is: neurodivergentinsights.com/misdiagnosis-monday/adhd-vs-autism
      Check out the description for more links!

  • @angyt1070
    @angyt1070 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved this. Very informative! Thank you

  • @sprrringtime
    @sprrringtime 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One thing not covered here is the barriers to diagnosis. The assessment costs are growing and sometimes thousands of dollars

  • @skyemiddletonx9006
    @skyemiddletonx9006 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, but don't forget, one can have something like Bpd and ADHD at the same time.
    Also Autism can look like bpd (but you could also have all three at the same time).
    Also, yes not everyone has hyperactive traits but please remember, some hyperactive traits can be inward, not outwards.
    I say this as a Hyperactive type ADHDer (maybe combined but closer to H type) person who is also Autistic and has Bpd (for now).

  • @timmiekat6072
    @timmiekat6072 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was never diagnosed as I child but I was often easily distracted and still am. I was a child that was constantly "daydreaming" . I cant focus, I hate doing things I have to focus for. Gonna see if I have it but I think I already know it just clicked. Ive always felt like I was somewhat behind and mentally slower then everyone despite not being dumb Iam in a decent college and succeeding somewhat (also why I was never tested, I was doing fine and not hyperactive so I couldnt have ADHD right?) but it just takes so much effort. Im doing an internship and I was all over the place one day, I had a meetng at 16:30 and at 16:25 I suddenly had the impulse to awnser an E mail from a teacher only realized I was late for the meeting when it was already 16:45 lol. THis kinda stuff happens a lot though it was the last straw though. Ive also had a history of sleeping problems and I love gamning because it engages me into something. All my life people have been wondering if im paying attention since I don't seem engaged to them

  • @beckynorris4366
    @beckynorris4366 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've never been diagnosed and I absolutely know I have it. I don't have the hyperactive part but I most definitely have the inattentive part. I feel like because I didn't have the hyperactivity it was overlooked. My brothers were diagnosed with ADHD but I was never evaluated for it.

  • @ImageFilmersPrivate
    @ImageFilmersPrivate 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Neurotypical: I can forgive, not forget.
    ADHDer: Oh, I'll forget eventually, but NEVER forgive.

  • @jbug884
    @jbug884 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It’s becoming very fashionable to say you have ADHD or autism. In fact I hear loads of people saying out loud “oh sorry, it’s my ADHD”
    I have it (secretly) and keep it to myself as I don’t want backlash from employers etc. My husband conducts a lot of law interviews in a top firm and told me if he reads that a candidate has ADHD or autism, that CV goes straight in the bin! Be warned, do not put that on your CV. It IS still seen as a disability and a mental health problem. Just a heads up.

    • @strigiformthunderstorm
      @strigiformthunderstorm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As an autistic person that trend is so infuriating, I pour so much energy and thought into masking. And people who use a disorder for clout will then go on to mock, infantalise, and take advantage of us -_-

    • @PayterX
      @PayterX 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      On one hand it seems like the increased awareness of mental health leads to the perception that having a healthy brain puts you in the minority of the population. So rather than feel left out, everyone now claims to have some mental health problem in order to feel like they fit in.
      Or on the other hand, maybe it's just the never ending cycle of younger generations wanting an easy excuse to rebel at authority yet push the blame off themselves at all costs. I know I was like that as a teenager.
      Then there's the cute quirky version of mental health disorders that are portrayed in movies, tv shows, and by their favorite Internet personalities. Like bipolar disorder being portrayed as someone who just goes from happy to mad to happy again within a few minutes.

    • @ratlinggull2223
      @ratlinggull2223 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your husband's firm is dogshit then.

    • @daffodilwanders4135
      @daffodilwanders4135 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it is a disability and any respectable employer would provide accomdations if needed, for it, it does not mean a person is unsuitable for work just that their brain works a bit differently, you're not less with adhd you are just different and that can also have lots of advantages

  • @Octopossible
    @Octopossible 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have every single symptom of ADHD plus twelve others. 🤣

  • @JoeIcke1
    @JoeIcke1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Maybe ADHD is normal and the things we are expected to do for a living are completely un natural for our brain to be doing.. where in evolution did it say we should be staring at computers and doing maths instead of running about in a forest or something

  • @charleshines2142
    @charleshines2142 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is in written statements and testimonies from my teachers. That and there is mention of it on some forms. I have photo copies of these forms and testimonies. I also had them scanned to preserve them forever hehehe!! They are backed up on numerous drives I have hidden in places that only I know. I may even have one copy with me just in case something happens to the others like a fire or something I still have one in my vehicle or pocket somewhere for safe keeping. I also kept the photocopies and they too are in an undisclosable location.

  • @user-ed7dy1mq9u
    @user-ed7dy1mq9u 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:27 I’m sorry, but this is a hilarious way to find out. 😂

  • @_f_6957
    @_f_6957 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Clicks on this video without finish the one I was just watching because…..ADHD 😂 now let’s see if I can sit through this 13:56 video

  • @Jeannette0890
    @Jeannette0890 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait, i thought non-stimulant ADHD medication had to build up in your system? Did i hear right when the narrator said it doesn't?

  • @neurodiversitystories5128
    @neurodiversitystories5128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing

  • @DiMakingiteveryday
    @DiMakingiteveryday 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ADHD is my daily struggle but it’s me. ☺️

  • @michelepaternoster_official
    @michelepaternoster_official 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please read "From Scattered to Centered" by Rowan Reeds...

  • @robertabarnhart6240
    @robertabarnhart6240 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm 58. They tell me I'm too old to be evaluated for ADHD or ASD.

    • @MelanieDPerkins
      @MelanieDPerkins 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😥
      I've heard this from other people. Are you able to reach out to other providers to see if they evaluate?

    • @romara879
      @romara879 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm 57, I was told they " don't diagnosis ASD in adults. However, they did do cognitive testing and that was how they found ADHD-inattentive kind.

  • @Avi_Z.
    @Avi_Z. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was diagnosed at 56.

  • @SnailHatan
    @SnailHatan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Symptoms need to be present for 6 months and boom, you have ADHD.” And then the psychologist IMMEDIATELY disputes that. It needs to be present since childhood.

    • @MrJimboberusky
      @MrJimboberusky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this comment isnt true.

  • @Happyasaclam123
    @Happyasaclam123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I lost count how many times I lost focus then haha.

  • @esymmons
    @esymmons หลายเดือนก่อน

    turn off the background music

  • @ailaniechavarria448
    @ailaniechavarria448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have both types, perhaps cause im autistic too

  • @Mario_
    @Mario_ ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Why didn't you take account of the largest systematic scoping review about ADHD overdiagnosis (and over-treatment)?
    Its title is "Overdiagnosis of Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder in Children and Adolescents" and it has been published on Jama Network Open

    • @pbsvitals
      @pbsvitals  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Our episode is about adults but this is a good review and we've added to the links in the show description.

    • @Mario_
      @Mario_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pbsvitals thanks! Though you talked about overdiagnosis and treatment in general and not only referring specifically to adults. Moreover this study specifically states that it has implications for adults too

  • @conneeboulmay3431
    @conneeboulmay3431 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOW

  • @amyj.4992
    @amyj.4992 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ADHD vs. Normal levels of distraction

    • @amyj.4992
      @amyj.4992 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bullies and insecure people, are the real victims

    • @amyj.4992
      @amyj.4992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go to therapy, cuz there are unhealed people out here that feel like they can keep you stuck to your past and tell you to get over it. Break free from the trap✊🏾

    • @amyj.4992
      @amyj.4992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They don't want to admit they have problems they aren't addressing that you can clearly see sticks out like a sore thumb, but are in severe denial of you not sharing the same lack of drive and willpower as them

    • @amyj.4992
      @amyj.4992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your light catches attention, but your strength irritates their demons.

    • @amyj.4992
      @amyj.4992 ปีที่แล้ว

      I responded better to slow release medication and only when needed

  • @Dreamazium
    @Dreamazium 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The second one is just like me.

  • @tzurtex6336
    @tzurtex6336 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m combined with everything 😂

  • @delektrik1
    @delektrik1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I stopped listening 30 seconds in

    • @Blueskybuffalo
      @Blueskybuffalo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cool comment bro.

    • @cprado1234
      @cprado1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣 ADHD approved

    • @PabloCruise9398
      @PabloCruise9398 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🎯

  • @Xogroroth666
    @Xogroroth666 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How to find out if you have ADHD:
    Take a line speed.
    If it calms you, you got ADHD.
    Simple.

    • @OkinInc
      @OkinInc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 you’re not wrong. Tried crystal once and got nothing out of it other than feeling “normal” for the first time and didn’t know why people did it. Everyone else were high as kites.

    • @Xogroroth666
      @Xogroroth666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OkinInc
      Didn't it calm your thoughts, as if the continuous Niagara waterfall of ideas, thoughts and whatnot, grinded to a halt?
      Didn't it give you FINALLY REAL focus, where in other times, you would not go "Oh look, a squirrel." but rather be like "Oh, look, an atom, And another, OOOH, another!", and this in a constant?
      It did so with me, moreover, I injected!!! Angeldust once ... my man, I became a mop, and merged with the sofa, THAT calm I became.
      To the point I began to doubt whether I was dead or not, and I am not joking:
      I could hardly lift a finger, THAT relaxed I was. XD

    • @Xogroroth666
      @Xogroroth666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OkinInc
      I always saw my Asperger's and ADHD as blessings.
      I fail to understand why many out there are embarrassed having something like this.
      Never I tried to hide it, never, au contraire:
      It is what it is, the end, right?
      And telling others, might give them a clue that we are different, and thus take it in account, preventing unwanted issues, like misunderstandings.

    • @OkinInc
      @OkinInc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Xogroroth666 unfortunately I was drinking at the same time and just remember not feeling any influence of alcohol at all and felt the most sober in my life that night. But couldn’t agree with you more on the waterfall of constant thoughts. Superpower they are indeed buddy. Hope all is well with you. 😀👍

    • @Xogroroth666
      @Xogroroth666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I truly hope, your loved ones and yourself are doing very well, as well, sir.
      May all the best life can offer, be on the paths of your beloved ones and yours.
      Now and "evermore", quoth the Raven.
      And then some!!!
      Also, very well met, sir. :)

  • @alexsimper4153
    @alexsimper4153 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this video looks like an ad lol

  • @causeeffect7624
    @causeeffect7624 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Too long wiNDed and not to the point FOR ppl who JUST MIGHT HAVE ADD OR ADHD!😮😮😮😊

  • @jesipohl6717
    @jesipohl6717 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ADHD is what you get when you decide to label someone after the worst outcome of the interaction of their personality/neurodiversity and contemporary bigotries.
    labeling yourself as deficient and disordered moves the blame from those with power (neurotypical people) to those without (yourself).
    The disease model of mental health has never worked and we can discuss anything we need to and solve any problem we need to without creating a stigma around the person and rather looking at the point of service.
    ADHD is a fictional disease construct (like so many) that only serves to help neurotypical people feel better about the fact that they continue to build and support a world that is disabling to a completely normal variation of humanity.
    One day as with homosexuality in 1972 and hopefully soon transgender identity, we can depathologise neurodiversity and repathologise colonial society.

    • @melindah9037
      @melindah9037 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it depends on how you claim the title. Sure, ADHD has 'Disorder' within it, but if you are only using the term medically, a disorder only means that something is different from the norm.
      Those who truly have ADHD genuinely have a different chemical balance in their brain chemistry. This has been proven by multiple, replicated rigorous scientific studies - I direct you to the channel "How to ADHD" for the links as I myself am not a researcher but know that Jessica has many verified studies linked on her videos.
      This part is not "made up". There is NOTHING WRONG with having that different chemical balance. It is just how someone is born. But it is a difference, and it is currently identified by the label ADHD, and it does effect how we interact with the world.
      Having a label allows those of us born with this difference to identify ourselves to each other, and understand why we have difficulty interacting with the norms of society. This is, in my opinion, empowering. While I understand your specific point that the world should not be built just for neurotypicals, calling ADHD a fictional construct and minimizing it does as much damage as neurotypicals denying our difficulties exist in the first place.

    • @AG-hx6qn
      @AG-hx6qn ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Used to think that too, until I looked into it more due to my husband havimg these issues...then it turns out, I do too. But i'm used to being told myself and anyone like me doesnt exist. :) hope you choose learning more

    • @squirrelsinmykoolaid
      @squirrelsinmykoolaid ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I understand how the deficit model is harmful, but I feel like your perspective ignores the parts of ADHD that can cause severe difficulties outside of communication.
      Constantly forgetting where important items are, or forgetting to pay bills, not being able to keep up with personal hygiene and cleanliness to the point where it is hazardous to health, increased rates of automotive accidents, and many other scenarios that are common for ADHD-ers do call for intervention and you can't deny that medication or other treatment plans has greatly improved the quality of many lives. Saying it's a "made up disorder" and comparing it to sexuality lacks nuance.
      I know I'm not broken and a lot of the difficulties I face are because of the ableist society we live in, but even if the deficit model were to disappear completely, that's not going to impact whether I forget to brush my teeth and develop cavities because of the way my brain is wired.

    • @CortexNewsService
      @CortexNewsService ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And being able to name what is happening to you is a big thing. Now I know what it is, so I can find ways to deal with it.

    • @johnmoore1495
      @johnmoore1495 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Problem is society keeps progressing meanwhile people with ADHD keep existing. Sure if we could go back to the days where I as a man would’ve ran my own little farm to support my family, I’d probably be fine, I’d be surviving. But in the modern day people like me struggle to conform to what modern day society demands of people. Having to sit at a desk and crank out of a 5 page paper on empathy for an English class in order to progress in my nursing program is borderline impossible for me to do on my own. It’s not that I don’t know how to write, it’s not that I don’t care, I have this mental block until it’s the last minute because I’m not interested and it’s not urgent until it is urgent. It doesn’t matter how important the paper is (without the paper I fail and can’t progress in my program) I just can’t do it without help or without waiting until the last minute.

  • @natalita1528
    @natalita1528 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Without scanning brains everything is only imagination. Psychiatry is obsolete, a game of guess what. It’s not serious, do ADHD, bipolar, borderline… Can you please look at my brain activity, as ant other specialists. No? Why?