Are they LYING about WALKSNAIL?! | Botgrinder investigates
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2022
- There is some debate right now around who is being honest about their walksnail fatshark hd goggles experience, Not wanting anyone to besmirch my homies good name name i set out to the land of Baltimore to test out crickets fpv set up. But something goes horribly wrong...
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This is proof everyone sees the same thing, for some it's great, others the blurry spots are hard to fly with, I focus on the blurry, but I wish I could block that out. I'm still with HDZero, and analog until they fix this. There's a place for all three systems, I can only afford two right now.
What the hell with all these scammers? I won two mini pro in less than a month supposedly.... Looks like I'm being hate TH-cam as much as FacePuke....
I'm glad I'm not the only person that hates what rotor riot has become. They are the QVC of FPV.
Somebody gotta sell the downrev shit to idiots 🤷♂️
FatShart's employee is a punk. What a joke. And the compression algorithm WalkSnail is using needs a lot of work.
I'd say thelefthand66 just cost the company he works for immeasurable damage. Maybe less ego and arrogance would serve FS better in general. I'm still on the post and wanting to go HD - but the FS way of clouding the water is certainly tipping my scales towards the alternatives.
dji is fantastic..... but it is dji.... that is the biggest problem most people have with dji.... hd zero is going to continue to grow and right now the image looks pretty amazing.... its not a long ways off from dji as far as image is concerned.... but hdzeros penetration is its downfall... with that said i am still camp hdzero.... i fly dji also but i hate the way the do business.... release an expensive ass product just to replace it a few years later and discontinue support for it.... i have a feeling the the dji v1 owners are going to be pissed when the v3 comes out and there is no longer support for the v1 goggles.... the v2 i think will be compatable with the new air units as well as the new dji goggles will be backwards compatible with the older airunits vistas....
Dude could be an amazing engineer, we don't know. What we *do* know is that he's not that great of a fit for a tech support role though lol.
I'm honestly at the point where I'm just gonna stick with analog until somebody comes along with something as good as DJI that isn't DJI.
same here homie
🤘🤘🤘🤝 same brother
What's wrong with DJI?
@@AndrewNovitsky they have ben popped for human right violations, having the drone return data to chinese government servers, they have stole code and products from other companys and sued them in court over it (billion dollar company always win) among several other pretty gross charges. fuck dji.
Thats it!
I thought you were picking your nose with both hands when you were adjusting the diopters on the goggles hahahahah also I didn't know cricket was a cowboy lmao
Word man, I appreciate your honesty. I watched Bardwell, Cricket, Le-drib, Steele, it felt to me like they were all hyping the system far more than they would any other product based on it's "future possibilities", something I feel none of those cats ever do normally. Walksnail could be fine later, but right now it looks like a blurry mess to me, if I fly HD I want it to be crispy not look like I got fingerprints on the lens.
Awesome to see you and cricket hanging out! I think revisiting the system in 6 months would be good, there will likely be more updates by then and things should start to stabilize.
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Yep agreed....needs some work and hopefully starts to mature to show actual potential. Still an immature system that is not really all there yet.
I'm going to hang on to them to test further improvements the same way im hanging on to hdz. I have high hopes for both camps.
@John G hdzero got you covered for winter with the 1s vtx for whoops..... whoop season is upon us
@@toxicfpv304 that’s the way I’m headed this winter 🥶🤘👍
Bot I completely agree. I'm pulling for hdzero. Carl doesn't even want to manufacture the products but is still doing the damn thing. Has been doing a lot for fpv. Plus he just did what nobody else has been able to do. Hd on a 1s whoop. I fly dji too and will not be buying dji v3 whatever the fuck. When my dji goggles stop working I'm going to be 100%hdzero
Yeah Im rooting for HDzero too. Just got into it and all set up. So far I like it.
@@KaizerTest I'm on analog hd zero and dji and 100% am pulling for hdzero
appreciate you keeping it real on something that isn't your thing. I just switched to digital myself, and you hit the nail on the head with the distance. that's the main perk.
"Two birds stoned with one"? 🤔🤣
Hdzero is very good HD-System ...one year i used and never problem ! Stable 1080@60fps hdmi out
Just so you know, I’m in a WeChat (Chinese social media) group with that guy, Shanghai FPV, and when all that shit was going on with your insta post and he was calling you a liar, he got absolutely panned by so many people (including me). You have friends on the other side of the world mate. I think he’ll be more thoughtful in future before wading in like that.
hey man i appreciate that, alot. nothing wrong with defending your product he just came at me all wrong.
@@BOTGRINDER Yeah, I think he's learned from it
That intro is why I appreciate your videos. Unfiltered true response and probably saved a bunch of people from the same issue.
1) more "honest onions with botgrinder" segments.
2) more of those fire ass goin to Cricket's house lyrics.
Best slap down of the toxic trademark drama that plagues the hobby of all time? I’d say so. Thanks for being you and not taking no shit from nobody.
TLDW Don’t fuck with Bot. What else would you expect? Also.. [video system X] is fine for some people, not ideal for others. Surprise!
@@abertheham 😅👍
I literally cant stand Fatshark... I joined the hobby after there were other options so I dont wear rose tinted glasses, I looked at the company for what it was and how it behaves, ignores the customers requests and produces AVERAGE products at premium cost. Looking at how this rep responds and asks "dont you have 4S? Why do you need 6S" shows just how completely clueless they are...
Great video man. I love the honesty. You know thats the thing that bothered me about DJI is that blurriness in the distance. Im just getting into HDzero and I still love analog. And Im hoping HDzero can keep progressing because I love the detail and clarity. Yes there is the “sparkle” breakup but it has detail in the video and no blur. Plus low latency. And I dont know how you make your video’s so good with editing, humour and little sarcastic comments but it is some really funny shit…haha. 😂👍 Like a mad genius or artist.
Vtx's and cameras are too expensive will make everyone terrified of crashing too much.
The digital goggles are extremely expensive to the point that makes the cost of entry to fpv so high that people joining the hobby will likely not be able to justify the cost.
experience
Long story short current digital systems are making the hobby something only really big budget hobbyist's can partake in and have a satisfactory experience.
thanks for your honest review I'm going to get hdzero fpv goggles when they come out
Never fail to entertain man! You rock! Always digging your style👊🤟😎
Reasonably okay review all things concidered. The system has potential. I'll stick with analog and dji for now. I am interested in the HD zero goggles whenever they may get released. Looking forward to seeing your review of those. 👍💖🤓
I bought a pair of Attitude V6 from Fatshark and a cable was pinched in the goggles and I had to spit the goggles to fix them out of the box! No quality control!
What a freaky effect with the clouds vanishing and re-appearing like magic.
Hey man just randomly came across this video, it’s a real banger! I feel you on the blurry WS nonsense… they got fix that compression algorithm
I am with you BOT...I hate the smearing in the video feed..... I too am holding on to analog until the Walksnail system matures some more. Too early to tell and too early for me to make the investment.
I think what worries me is if digital is exactly what Im thinking when it comes to reception, which is smooth and then an abrupt cut out or loss of signal once you get past that range limit. I agree analog at least you have some indication of range.
Awesome I'm a noob and just spent a ton on goggles and controller couldn't imagine right now switching to digital... Plus I enjoy the learning curve of analog and it has that old school TV fuzz and lines lol!!! Pal you are the best love watching your videos and plus you explain in a way I understand!!!
Love the honesty! I’m still on the fence plus I’m broke lol.
This is just a dumb guess, but back in the grandpa days of analog FPV we used to have to swap our 2.8mm stock lenses and manually focus the new ones. All of the DVR stuff I've seen come out of these walksnail cameras looks dirty/blurry in the center and sharp on the edges as if the lens isn't set right or maybe the sensor is crooked. Could it be just another QC issue? Maybe probably. I don't know if the lens is glued into place or whatever, but I'd try to give it a little turn and see if that helps. Much love from the NorCal analog OG's.
Totally what it looks like I agree, but you can see it get's sharp if you just stand still. It's called macroblocking, it's the very most basic compression algorithm, same thing happens with consumer cameras with low bit rate, they make stuff like grass turn to mush.
I liked your video and realized I was #421.... I unliked it so it could be at 420 again. If someone else fucks it up again, I'll be back hahaha. I love your videos, you crack me the fuck up
in video games it's called LOD - level of detail. from farther away we take polygons out and lower the texture resolution. as you get closer the nicer textures come in and higher resolution models come in. it saves 'draw calls' and memory usage.
Good vid, keep going man good stuff
Was this before or after the firmware update?.
i trust you the most man you the realest out here, keep it up🤖
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oh no hahaha
I'll wait until my friends try it, as opposed to listening to anyone affiliated with RR who has skin in this - because those are the ones who seem to be pushing it the hardest. It IS interesting but my analog still gets more love than my DJI anyway.
I can tell you that companies definitely do send good stuff to the reviewers. The steadyview skyzone receiver is a great example. I have had 2, another youtuber also had one and we both have these ridiculous issues that no reviewers seem to have. No way that receiver would get such good reviews otherwise.
That's why I fly analog (foxeer razer / AKK x2) and digital (caddx vista polar / air unit ) I feel both have their pros and cons
The fog is real. There’s a good chance it will get better. DJI is still shitting all over it right now though even with a few years of no development.
my HD3's came with messed up optics. sent them back for fixing and they came back with one optic still messed up. i still use my old dom v1's because of it. total BS.
I'll see where it's at in a few months. I'll have to get something when Vista's dry up, I don't think I could go back to analogue now.
Hands down I agree with you, my money is in for HDzero too!!
Who knew trying a set of goggles would be so complicated?
Agreed mate 👍
I'd make a comment but I don't wanna lose my favorite blanky
Best thing about you (no offense) is your honesty. Thank you for being you.
Totally agreed analog is the way for me! I fly it and simple.But I may go hdzero when those goggles hit.💯
Same here mate 👍
What you’re talking about relating to video games is LOD (level of detail), the further away the object is the less detail etc.
biggest problem,,, you can't see the OLED through TH-cam....
the software needs work, the googles are nicer than DJI, the VTX... hard to beat the Vista tank...
good catch.. i was like -Onions what? ROFL
BotGrinder investigates : tonight at 11 good video and I think it has potential... I vote HDzero now that DJi is discontinued basically
Came for the drone info, stayed for the Prof Barbreaker sample in the intro... and the drone info.
The music is actually an open source beat aesop rock made as part of an album called "the blob" prof just sampled it for bar breaker.
@@BOTGRINDER thanks for the hip hop knowledge drop, brochacho! Big Rhymesayers fan here too - definitely checking that Aesop Rock album
Going back to my tbs unify pro32
Some beautiful piloting.
Don't worry Redcat is busy going bust they won't be around long enough to ruin FPV
Dude bot. Love the Muslims shirt. Thanks for showing me that band. Your music choice is always fire!
The only main reason i switch to digital is its not fun flying analog when all your homies are in digital, i could barely finish 3 packs. Switching to dji i still see those smudge but not as bad as walksnail. But i do agree on the penetration and fly further out.
Me just waiting for hdzero goggles coz i cant take adding huge vrx module infront
HDZero is sounding good! Analog is good enough for me at the mo tho!!
What's the deal with Orqa? They showed some hunks of metal in a display case that was supposed to be their digital system months ago, then fell off the radar.
they probably had too much electro parties at their company, and lost their focus.. lol.. all they made is a few teaser trailers with "can your googles do this"... worst marketing strategy ever. promising while people are waiting and not delivering.
HDZERO is the way (but I always bring 1 analog quad as a life saver). I just want my HDZERO goggles!!!
hdzero is king!!!!! no better customer relations in the game right now... nobody is listening the way carl does.... plus who else has 1s vtx right now
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Big William Osman vibes in this video. Dope.
Hon bot say it as it is .. love it ..
Two birds stoned at once!
Lmao homie did you record your own rap..... Did I hear a cricket rap in there.
This is one of my points, it does not work well with green, it also depends on the environment, I have seen some really good footage as well... Shout-out to Carl...
By having the frame in view on the side is like cheating, as that part of the image is constant the h265 has less area to work in and quality will be visually better. Same goes for narrow lenses
Good point with the frame in view. But a narrow lens wouldn't have the same effect.
@@pelerinc yes it would. More visual data with the same fixed/limited bitrate. Think 1000 straws in fov vs 1500 straws compressed by the same bitrate, the 1000 straws would look visually better (toy example, but give it a try)
Please not my favourite blanket!!
“Hide yo kids hide yo blanket”
I DARE YOU TO PLUG IN 6S WALKSNAIL! also is there a place to dl the song @ 2:43
Honestly being an HD pilot I fucking love botgrinder because he says how it is calls it how it is! His content is absolute gold and videos like these are excatly why botgrinder continues to stay my favorite pilot
He also takes huge dab hits most videos and that gets me pretty juicy too ❤️😍
Yep too many sell outs in the FPV world now. Analog all the way.
"ding dong" lmao
Baked reviews luv It
Get yourself some dog clickers from amazon for $5 to sync your videos, nothing produces a click like them for syncing in many environments
I'm still just waiting on your frame that's supposed to fit the big ass hd-zero. Lol. I just hope Tommy designs it wide enough to protect the plug. Lol
oh it fits fantastic, 3030 mounting holes and all.
@@BOTGRINDER this a 5” frame bro? 😃
@@bugsy742 yup! 5" freestyle frame!
@@BOTGRINDER 😃🤘 exiting times man and thanks for replying brother 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@@BOTGRINDER can I buy it through the merch store when it comes out?
just flew a spot ive beek hiking for the last few weeks on my way out i saw the sign of rules it says no drones.. damn it feels good to be a gangster
Wait... WHAT? Was this MC Bot's world premiere (at 2:42), or have I been sleeping through Bot's videos? More MC Bot! And that 80's-style chorus guitar? I'm telling you...with the echo?...I'm telling you. In fact, it might be time to start up a 2nd TH-cam channel. All great artists evolve over time. Think Prince. Or Madonna. Well maybe just Prince. I hope you'll decide to follow this great advice and when you do, you're gonna need a new intro theme. And I got you. It's based on "MotownPhilly" of course. Duh.
Botgrinder is back again
Doin' a little FPV.
Gettin' high and reviewing stuff
So just sit back and take a puff.
Botgrinder - FPV - THC !
My sky04x work perfectly and I'm not spending that much money on hd for the scenery to look a bit better when I'm doing flipy flopy sbanging freestyle juiciness 😁
i would say snag up a sharkbyte vtx someone is selling when the new goggles come out.... it really is a nice improvement with not a lot of compromise
@@toxicfpv304 hmmmm vtx wont fit in my apex but its the one hd system i want to work zero bite frosty shark .seriously tho the pic i get in my skyzones is awesome the only time it is a problem is when i get breakup when the penatration wont go thru 100ft of concrete like dji dose but i dont do that sort of flying much at all
Bro, still love my Orqa
Analog for life! FTW!
i am yet to find limits with my analog system, it is still my thumbs that need to do better.
@@LucianoVeryNiceHi me too; really variant of the rf environment analog goes really far, like ive never flow an am rf transmitter and most stuff is 2.4 freq hopping atm. my thumbs are adhd, and ive got these goggles instead of spectacles
What a nice and really diplomatic video about the Walksnail Avatar Fatshark Dominator system cause they look or behave the same.
But Walksnail made have pretty clear that they do not want you as their customer cause in any case it is the customers fault if a unit is dead, even dead on arrival cause they will claim to say that they had shipped it when it had passed their Quality Control.
That can be true, but maybe the Quality Control had not really learned to do their job right.
DJI handles such issues a lot easier and even repairs a lot cheaper cause my recent MINI 2 had fallen from the chair and then broke a tiny cable of the gimbal. Had no dji care but asked for support and they asked me to send it in . Within 3 days I got a message, what has to be fixed and that they will do it within 3 days if I pay the 42€ which incl. 19% sales tax . 3 days later I got a dji parcel from hungary - where labor force is cheaper than in the Netherlands where they had their repair facility before - and I got a brand new drone in a sealed package with a new serial number and a full warranty which starts from the moment the drone is connected to a dji account the first time.
Quite a different experience even though the drone was not cheap. But it was very convenient and smooth procedure, feels like a best case study.
There is some blurriness but I think it looks just like DJI. I also don't see that as a complaint because you can still see what's there... w/ analog and static you can't see anything where the static is.
my complaint is if i go far enough for analog to get static i can still fly back, if dji or walksnail goes to far it blacks out and my drone crashes.
@@BOTGRINDER Digital isn't needed. You could either build 2 digital quads or 3 analog for the same price. I've pretty much only flown digital and I know when it's about to black out from the latency or blurriness.
But you do you booboo. We know you are going to keep it real
Dji v1. Looks about the same with focus mode.
i feel the same! sure DJI has infiltrated our hobby/sport with the populer HD goggle, but i i myself cant justify to switching from analog (yes i have flowen DJI on many occasions). i have always been a Fat Shark fan. But I did not know they sold out to Red Cat!?!?! ive got to do some research on this becuse FS has always had the BEST customer support and, in my opinion the best products with exceptions to a few of there bunk lines. i will stick to my HDO2s and looking at upgrading to the HD zero system on some of my quads. but cant see myself swaping every single one of my aircrafts VTXs to digital when caddix just lost there contract with DJI... i mean think about it, DJI is a shitty company! and im glad to see FS finally came out with some sort of competition. Vanover said it best "Give it 6 months to work out all the kinks" and as long as FS still follows there reputation they will get it ironed out and possably surpass DJI and send them back to the realm of stabilized aircraft. face it, DJI does not keep up with the how fast this technology is advancing in the FPV world! POV.
but why is DJI shitty? they accelerated the digital FPV systems like no other company. their stabilized drones are really good. of course you use them for other purposes than FPV. and geofencing and aeroscope sucks, yes. it is kind of ironic that you say DJI does not keep up with how fast this technology is advancing, when they paved the way for digital FPV. they just do not release unfinished systems like FS do. wait another month until they release their new system. I am pretty sure they will blow out everyone else out of the water. DJI made fpv get their asses up and develop something that is worth it. I also did not like DJI because many people that fly DJI drones are just idiots. but they do make really thought out products. and then, every single chinese manufactured company, which includes TBS use their tax advantage when exporting their made in china products to western countries. not only DJI. DJI is just a chinese founded company, not like gopro or TBS , but these also use the advantage of cheap manufacturing in china, and have it easier to communicate with the community than DJI. but I have hope for HD zero.
unfortunately the fatshark we all know is gone for good along with the customer service, they have been bought out by redcat and their venture capitalist tax avoiding friends.
@@hallio111 dji has been charged with human rights violations, ip theft, non competitive business practices and alot more, they have been rumored to sell drone location data to russia during the ukraine war, i have had a few companys reach out to me personally about code and product theft by dji with proof. there are several reasons they are a shitty company and not one has to do with the video quality.
@@BOTGRINDER wowzers man - just one of those reasons is enough to try and avoid! 😫👍🤜🏻🤛🏻
🤦 oh man quality control is there for a reason.. bummer they handled it the way they did.
Cool .. Keep it real..
Ha ! Eat my cereal! Steal my blanket!
Hit on my MOM!! Dude she likes you…
Now that would be scary, are you my new daddy;)
Easiest way to sync footage is to clap twice at the start so all recording hears it. Then either clap once at the end for a failed take or three times for a good take. Then when editing just search for the three clap takes and ditch the rest. I am still in the analog camp as well. I know how to set my cameras up correctly and use mid level VTX gear and decent antennas. I think my footage is more detailed to fly by then any HD system footage I have seen. I don't fly around trees I fly IN trees.
Secondly I wont EVER ride the DJI bus as they have been banned for any US government contracts for passing sensitive information back to China. Any still active DJI stuff government entities use have had to have a specially written software to stop that. Redcat is on that whole take over with RFID shit and I am not riding that bus either. Buying or continuing to use either of those companies products only supports the demise of the hobby all together. If they get their way we will all be locked into flying that DJI race drone POS because people bought the hype and they now have an established user base to say hey.. we are already in place.
I cant do the clapping I need it on screen.
4:04 Not my favorite blanket!!!
Bro the music 😂 I’m going to make my own song
Lemme guest spot.
Bet you could hold your radio in front of the camera when you arm, and just use flipping the switch to sync audio.
"i'm on smoko so leave me alone" the chat - :-)
vroom vroop !!
Looks like it doesn’t do to well at parks. It seems crystal clear at parking garages and bandos from what I’ve seen so far
It looks to be not ready for prime time.
it doesnt look like a replacement for production purposes most definitely; like shallow depth of field with the minecrafty color space, maybe b&w mode would be an interesting test.
Botgrinder just go get the DJI 03 and be done with it 😂😂😂
Dji is a really shitty company I'd rather fly analog then give them any money 😅
I'm going to hold out and see what Orqa comes up with. They aren't Redcat/DJI evil.
Yeah you fried them. Fatshark and Avatar goggles are both 5s. The VTX is 6s. I heard some people saying the Fatshark takes 5s and the avatar takes 6s. This is not true. This was cleared up recently and it was said both goggles take only up to 5s. Crazy for the price. My old skyzones even take 6s.
Makes zero sense honestly
the guy who designed the goggles says they can take 6s, so i dont know what to believe
Focus issues are the camera lens
Question 1, Is grandpa bardwell lying about his motives ?
What’s up with the T Shirt?
Its a band i like
Yeah I'll just stick with DJI lol
my latest raw video is from the DJI v2 Goggles, watch that.
it looks even clearer if you see it in the goggles