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Until I see the gameplay trailer I will take it with a grain of salt and here’s to hoping that they include the expansion that was never included in the original and sequel Edit: after seeing the gameplay trailer of the space marines 2 then I’m sold on the kotor remake having graphics like that
I play space marine 2 since it came out and its amazing. Graphics, gameplay, story, atmosphere, respect to the existing lore. In my opinion its a master piece and if they can keep up with the roadmap they published its gonna be even better as time goes. And the for extra, there is pinged comment on asmon gold video where he talks about the game, its from the CEO of saber, he seems a decent fellow, so i would say these give me hope about kotor
On the flip side, maybe the story was originally going to be very different and Saber is fixing it. The existence or not of the word "remake" in the title is a pretty trivial thing. It's there when they announce it so you know it IS a remake and not some kind of remaster, but as the video notes, plenty of remakes are just "the original game's title, again."
@@Eamil No. We know from leaked dev docs that the story was more or less always as it was, just with some cut content here and there. KotOR 2 had a ton of cut content but still kept it's story intact as well.
If they make Kotor media for Disney plus it needs to be done by Faverau, or the team that did the og game story. If they mess it up that would be… disappointing
"This video was brought to you by Padding McPaddington" Like seriously, I'm impressed how many times you've managed to repeat "Kotor isn't called Kotor Remake, just Kotor".
Honestly I’d much rather get a remaster of the original game that ups the textures and introduces native support for modern resolutions, heck throw ray tracing in there too idc. I don’t want a remake because you just know they’ll modern audience the shit out of it. They can’t help themselves. The dialogue story and characters don’t need altering. At all. In any way shape or form. The game is damn near perfect the way it is. It would be like remaking The Godfather. Stop. Just leave it alone.
Given how their CEO felt "down-to earth" in the YT comment. I don't think they would start from a very deep water to... make kotor 3 without at least selling remasters of the older games, but I think the age of the games makes remakes much more optimal way.
Not just the age, but the engines are spaghetti messes not allowing remasters really. Even mods can't do much besides textures and weapons looking slightly higher poly. No, it NEEDS ported to a new engine even for a simple remaster, but at that point a remake is the better option. Smooth out the admittedly clunky gameplay of the original, give it an action combat system(no one would cry over the removal of dice roll combat. Ignore anyone claiming otherwise), and expanded upon story/worlds.
I swear to Christ, Disney better leave them alone and just let them do a faithful remake I got a really sneaky suspicion that Disney does not want to make Knights of the Old Republic Canon in Disney Star Wars. So they're going to make changes to fit more in line with Disney Star Wars. No, just no a thousand times no!
Revan is already Canon the events of the game may not be yet but they definitely plan on making it Canon at some point this remake wouldn't have made it Canon anyway though
@@ПетрПетров-о6ъ9нIf thats the case, doesnt matter if it does not alter the story much IMO. They did have a force bond, so it does not really interrupt much.
I noticed something interesting recently about this game. I was looking at jobs and noticed something about a marketting position that opened up at Disney under Lucasfilms and their games division. They listed a few games the studio is known for. Star Wars Outlaws was first listed and then it was Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic, Jedi Survior, and one other I can't remember, but also recent. Kotor stood out the most to me, and I was wondering why they would list that one specifically. Part of me was thinking that they are looking to finally start marketing the game and the third and final entry for the Jedi series. While it is a popular Star Wars game and worth putting, there are other new games they could have stated like Star Wars Battlefront 2 that weren't. I'm very much hoping that they do work on this game and we get to see something soon.
We don't need more Star Wars deconstruction stories. KOTOR 2 was a mess anyways story-wise, and The Last Jedi was another example on how deconstructions do not make good Star Wars stories.
@@comicsans1689 The reason the game is such a mess is that they had 14 months to make the damn thing. If they had a reasonable schedule, they would've been able to fix stuff like the dumbass refugee side quest on nar shaddaa
@@BilberryBogwonAGD Giving Obsidian time means nothing. They actually make better games when they are rushed. KOTOR 2 and New Vegas are more beloved than Neverwinter Nights 2 and Alpha Protocol. In fact, Alpha Protocol had four years of development yet it released in the same state as KOTOR 2. The truth is that Obsidian does not know how to create reasonable development goals. They have lofty plans that can never be fully realized, and they struggle to condense them into something cohesive. Compare them to when Bioware rushed to release Jade Empire. Obsidian's management is the weakest link.
Take a look into the names of remakes. Dead Space isn't titled "Dead Space Remake", neither are the Resident Evil remakes. The FF7 "remake" is titled exactly that because of lore, as the sequel is also named Rebirth instead of "Remake Part 2". I don't think it's a deep reason, but obviously the game has been undergone a lot of changes.
I hope you’re wrong. I hope they’re reevaluating and deciding on a remaster rather than remake. A remake just isn’t going to live up the original writing. RE4 and Dead Space are different beasts, those games were always kind of goofy. It’s ok to rewrite the story cause they’re just one offs. They’re rebooting the whole franchise. KOTOR deserves better than that
I want a remake because I can basically remaster the game through mods. Sure, it is not the same, but the chance to play as a Revan properly in his own game with high-quality graphics as well as more refined controls would be so good.
Not everyone can mod their games. Newcomers deserve the chance to experience this classic in modern graphics, especially if it’s reintegrated into canon. The only benefit of a remake is that people who played the original would get a slightly different (albeit worse) version of the story. A remaster that changes the gameplay but keeps everything else as it was offers benefits for EVERYONE
@Arander92 How would you know the story would be worse. Also, I get modding can be difficult, but we do live in a world where you can google how to do it, especially since Kotor is so simple when modding. Also, I do not want another battlefront classic collection experience. I am not spending another £30 for a game with slightly better graphics when I can spend £60 on a game with a brand new engine and possibly reworked controls that are similar yet different to the original. I don't mind remasters, but I am just paying more for a game I already have. Let people rework these stories and create their own. Also, Kotor has a great story, not a brilliant one, I can live with a change of story if it means I can experience something new.
@@Arander92 Remakes don’t always change the story. A remaster would be very limited in terms of graphical improvements. And a lot of people I’ve spoken to won’t even touch the game because of the gameplay.
It's smart to not have any news until KOTOR is ready to be shown. Whether it's a reimagining or a remake with the same mechanics, the game will be one of the most anticipated RPGs since Final Fantasy VII Remake.
I think it could get a reannouncement at the game awards, or at star wars celebration next year. Either way I think we could be getting news fairly soon
I just want it done right, make me feel the magic of kotr without feeling try hard or any type of gender bending/ politicians agenda. It would be fine if it's just a remaster, it would sell just fine. Just want the game and fingers crossed for it done with care.
I'm hoping for both a remake and a remastered. Either is fine for me, I want to go back into the Old Republic a kick Malek's butt again and again. If it's a remake I hope the Character Customizer is reworked, and maybe add more clothing/weapon designs. I hope that it does super well and they rework/remaster Sith Lords next, maybe add the deleted content and whatnot.
When you said reboot as an option, I do wonder if perhaps they will go back to the Mandalorian Wars and start the new game series from there. It seems like an effective tie in with the more recent Mandalorian TV show which will also be worked on as a movie as a means to reach new audiences.
Just give a simple remaster with modern resolution support. I don't need new quest lines or new companions. The entire love interest/ fuck every pixel on the screen has no real place in the original story. Yes I know the entire Bastila/ Carth thing is huge part of the story which is fine. But I don't need to romance Bastila's mom or Zalabaar. It's weird how in the last 25 years you have to have 10 romance options in a game aimed at pre-teens and younger. Having a limit on two is fine, which the relationship building in the old games wasn't focused on romance, it was a nice bonus at the end of the game. However I enjoy the fact that its not a must or isn't fisted down the players throat like in mass effect or dragon age. Its Star wars and giving it a heavy or serious romance is just out of place and weird to me.
KOTOR was rated T for teen, and Mass Effect was rated M for mature; neither were aimed at pre-teens and younger. Players from the era in which those games were made enjoyed the romance options. I'd rather have a choice of 10 romantic suitors than being pushed into an arranged relationship (makes for better roleplaying). I'd say those games were groundbreaking, in that respect.
Wish they would just make Kotor 3 with Chris Avellone as the director and along with Drew Karpyshyn as the chief writer. I know that will never ever happen, but I dream of a kotor 3 such as that.
I camt see a sequel without Chris avellone being all that compelling given how swtor and its tie in books went ans the fact that Karpyshyn has already shown he's happy to disregard kotor 2 content
Yeah. I'm hoping that whatever form it takes, Reboot, Reimagine, or Remaster it's still a great KotOR game, not some new thing trying to ride the love so many people have for the originals
For me I would just love a new RPG star wars game. One where you start off as a Padawan and move up. There's plenty of room to make the game in between the old and new republic. They could even go further back in time and do the exar kun war era.
So…… if it’s not a remake/remaster…. the overhaul total conversion mod was DMCA’D and we won’t be able to play it with modern graphics/controls (namely jumping)
@@eksqc2825 no it's clickbait, "everythings change" what changes -- nothing at all, they're still working on it just don't use "remake" that's all it boils down too. "might change everything" it changes fuck all
@Temple277 I hope so, too. I am primarily a PS player, but all this exclusive stuff just stops me from buying certain games. I can't afford to buy an Xbox Series X just to play the new Halo game or whatever, so that means that many people miss out. I get that most people can afford to, so they do gain money from exclusive games, but I just want to play Halo on PS and Spider-Man on XBox
It was so bad Sony asked for their money back lol. That exclusivity was over years ago. However, all that being said, I'm still pissed I can't play Kotor on my PS.
Excellent find man!! I'd probably fall in the camp of thinking they just dropped the word remake and it will still be that. As you said, Dead Space, Resident Evil etc have done it. Yet again Until Dawn doesn't have anything else in the name and that's more of a remaster/remake hybrid.
What if the reason they're not calling it The knights of the Old Republic remake is because they're not remaking just the first one what if they're remaking both and adding them together in a bundle kind of game
Only thing that needs to change about this game is that they need to have kotor 2 gameplay with kotor 1 story. And whatever skills/feats you can add. Maybe custom lightsabers and blasters and maybe Yuthura Ban as a companion. But nothing else.
Thanks for covering, to me it definitely does look like some sort of re-announcement coming next year. I am sure saber has very different goals for it than aspyr had at first
I love my kotor and kotor 2 overly modded versions, but the Mass Effect Legendary Edition and the amazing work of the modding community for that game has made me think a remaster for it might be a decent thing. Though I am still hoping on an eventual Kotor 3 since the multiverse came into public eye since marvel.
I have a feeling and hope that the omission of “Remake” from the title is actually a positive. I think Sabre is actually changing the fighting game play in the reboot of the series to make it more in line with modern gaming. I see it being like Jedi Survivor but with less puzzles and open world like the original. What would be great is the z as nice mentioned plus a Starfield or No Mans Sky type planet movement. Wishful thinking but that would make this epic
I want a really good quality remaster like diablo 2 or command and conquer. Where everything is the same just with visual and quality improvements. That said, KOTOR could be better with just remaking the game into something modern and even larger. Disney probably wants it completely remade because they keep taking Lucas Arts titles and making it their own. It's not the old republic anymore, it's now the high republic or something I heard. So they will probably have a list of what they want in the game to make it fit the mouse storylines.
@@TheRoot2944 There’s being quiet, and then there is acting like they are ashamed of their product. If I was a game developer who had the rights to KOTOR, I’d be dancing on the rooftops! Saber on the other hand, acts like they are the subject of a 60 Minutes expose whenever they are asked about their game.
I know that this is a huge dream, but what I am hoping for this is to kinda start a new trilogy, based odd the original. What I mean is that they get to make the full original revan storyline in someway, and remake the second one, fix all the issues and have it actually be finished, and finally make the third game that will finish the KotOR storyline. I know this is a pipe dream though but seeing that they might be making something more of their own kinda gives me a bit of excitement because if they do it well, they could make a sequel and so on.
Feel like they could be combining one and two and add on the adventures of Revan and meetra surik afterwards or possibly have a custom character option for both that meet up after the events of two
I heard a rumor stating that the reason the title lost the remake in it is because they are putting KOTOR 1 and KOTOR 2 sith lords put together with all original content. But then again this was heard A bit ago. It might be worth considering it as a theory from some random. I am hoping they are keeping their vision.
The way I see them calling the KOTOR Remake just “KOTOR” reminds me of when Nintendo remade Super Mario RPG but just called it “Super Mario RPG” instead of Super Mario RPG Remake/Remaster like most games would is because the title “Remake” is something us fans would call it so that way we wouldn’t get it confused with the originals. Sorry if this comment is confusing but I tried to explain it as best as I could
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If it's anything like re2. I'll be OK with it. I love the og and remake in different ways as they are fundamentally different games and I love them in their own way. I'm more partial to the og of course as it was the first m rated game I ever played. Let just hope it's still on track.
So like Metal Gear Solid Delta? Gameplay is essentially a remake while staying true to the original MGS3 whereas the script/dialog and VO are all the same as MGS3.
Knowing how ambitious Saber Interactive is as a development studio this is for sure going to be a Kotor reboot. However if they do take this approach I hope they don’t dumbed down like Space Marine II or Jedi Academy and instead keep it FULLY story interactive first (with multiple choice dialogue options) and Gameplay focused second like Kotor and SWTOR.
I still remember playing KOTOR on Xbox with a buggy disc and having my jaw drop at the plot twist. I saved the game and went straight to bed 😂 I just hope they keep the story mostly intact. I'm ok with some modernized mechanics as long as there's some depth and customization
I dunno about the name change, but it seems likely that they're avoiding advertising the game yet because they're not far enough in the development. As a few mistakes made by Paradox recently have shown us, it's not a good idea to raise the hype too early, not until you're relatively confident that you can keep your schedule and the game will be in an acceptable condition when going into early access (let alone if they don't do early access at all).
I wonder if it's going to be the kotor 3. It was actually planned as a fight against the sith in the uncharted space, but the project was scrapped. I wonder if their trying to bring it back.
I don’t care, i trust the company. I have a lot of friends who loved the space marine lore who say theyre massively in love with space marine and that its a dream come true. I know these guys will do kotor justice. Especially since warhammers themes are not woke coded and are gruesome. Just like kotor 🔥
More confident than ever that this happens now given the success of Space Marines, investments, plus the free cash flow visibility on the Kotor remake given the development stage.
on one hand I really want the KOTOR remake/remaster to happen and be good. On the other I see the original game, a game I have played and replayed numerous times and think "Well I can play this awesome game" and thus realize I don't NEED a remake/remaster no matter whether it be good or bad. So when the original reveal made me jump up and down (at the expense of my fragile back) but now after that excitement has settled I am not in any particular rush to see this game come out.
I suspect Disney wants this Kotor game to be canon therefore Sabre Interactive is making in essence a "new" Kotor rather then a remake. Adjustments to the story and the universe as we know it from Legends/EU will be made but it will still be the Old Republic, Mandalorian Wars, Jedi Civil War etc. For example they might add the concept of bleeding lightsaber crystals to turn them red and maybe add Disney era alien species to the game. Cross-guard lightsabers might be added as well. What I am afraid of is that they might change character's personalities, their values and their relationships with Revan. But I do trust Sabre Interactive not to do that last bit. They will do what they can to please Disney without angering the fans of the Old Republic too much. If this new Kotor sells, Disney will want to make more content to milk the Old Republic era but they can only do that as long as the Old Republic story and the concepts it introduces does not conflict with the stories and the universe Disney has been creating since they bought Star Wars IP.
People who say they'd rather have a remaster than a remake are most likely confusing these two terms and in fact they want a remake, which is a reasonable thing to wish for as the game has aged very badly and new textures wouldn't fix it. People are now buying PC equipment that's eons ahead of what was available at the game's launch. New game engines are also many generations ahead of the game engine for the original KOTOR. It'd be sad not to take advantage of the newest technologies and introduce this game to a whole new audience. Perhaps few more side quests here and there would also bring a dose of fresh air from the story perspective to the old gamers.
I wish they would do both lmao. Remaster the OG games and maybe make Knights of the Old Republic 2 more finished and then put out a new one in the Disney canon. In my head it would be like dragon age or baudlers gate 3 but that is probably just me being delusional
It honestly sounds like a silent hype project. The merchandise being released quietly and the lack of attention on what could be another game of the year tells me that they are waiting for something in particular. What that is, I can't say, but I think it might be things like this video and the reactions to it. If they have decided it isn't a remake anymore they could be looking to see what the pre-existing fan-base thinks before really ramping up into full development.
Honestly, i would absolutely love a remake with cut content added in, for both games. But, would be just as happy with a new one. Just not another MMO, please!
I'm getting a feeling they're going to make this game a PlayStation 6 exclusive, cuz every 6 years, a new console comes out and we're probably going to hear about the PlayStation 6 by next year! So much waiting to do.
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Why do you stop making Kotor Videos?
To be brutally honest I will wait to see how game looks on day with it's stability, storyline, and gameplay.
Until I see the gameplay trailer I will take it with a grain of salt and here’s to hoping that they include the expansion that was never included in the original and sequel
Edit: after seeing the gameplay trailer of the space marines 2 then I’m sold on the kotor remake having graphics like that
I play space marine 2 since it came out and its amazing. Graphics, gameplay, story, atmosphere, respect to the existing lore. In my opinion its a master piece and if they can keep up with the roadmap they published its gonna be even better as time goes.
And the for extra, there is pinged comment on asmon gold video where he talks about the game, its from the CEO of saber, he seems a decent fellow, so i would say these give me hope about kotor
@@Vugor23 if that’s what saber can do to make a great game then I’m sure they’ll not disappoint remaking kotor
This remake became a soap opera.
For real the entire story over the past couple years has been just crazy
It‘s why I don‘t believe anything I hear about it anymore.
You mean a space opera? *Badum tss*
Just like Star Wars in general
A space soap opera with dismemberment 😬😅
Worst possible scenario is that they removed the remake subtitle because the story has been changed so much that its not the original story anymore
Nightmare scenario
Now that I think about it, any changes/alterations to the story are a nightmare scenario
On the flip side, maybe the story was originally going to be very different and Saber is fixing it.
The existence or not of the word "remake" in the title is a pretty trivial thing. It's there when they announce it so you know it IS a remake and not some kind of remaster, but as the video notes, plenty of remakes are just "the original game's title, again."
The word "Remake" is almost never included as a subtitle in remakes. RE series, Dead Space, Shadow of the Colossus, etc.
@@Eamil No. We know from leaked dev docs that the story was more or less always as it was, just with some cut content here and there. KotOR 2 had a ton of cut content but still kept it's story intact as well.
Feeling like we're living in the Taris Undercity with how much scrounging we gotta do for news :(
Appreciate the updates mate!
One day we'll find the promised land...
@@100StarWars : Unfortunately, the Promised Land was ruined by the Sith bombardment along with everything else.
Don't worry now russians won't fuck it up with that woke shit. It is in safe hands now.
High sales of that KOTOR merch might show the idiots at Disney that KOTOR is one of the most popular Star Wars stories of all time.
Disney is allergic to success
If they make Kotor media for Disney plus it needs to be done by Faverau, or the team that did the og game story. If they mess it up that would be… disappointing
@@FRIDAY-lt3ei I'm not quite sure about it. No one did so much harm to Kotor than Karpyshyn himself.
No pls no. We all know where it leads with modern politics agendas, they ll ruin yet another fan s favourite
Unless you're just a moron, I have never seen any official Disney post say it wasn't popular. Like, are you lacking a brain?
I'm going to keep it classic and just say "I have a bad feeling about this.."
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Ol' reliable!
Na I have full faith in them after Space Marine 2.
@@Zachthe504 10 hour campaign for 60 bucks… hell yeah
@@REALdavidmiscarriageTbf it ain’t just a single player story game. It’s getting continued support.
I will just quote the most iconic line from Star Wars franchise "I have a bad feeling about this".
Would you stop *saying* that!?
“Whenever atton has a bad feeling about something, make sure to SAVE YOUR GAME”
Coming from Disney and Woke Lucasfilm, it really gives a bad feeling. They probably will make Revan black, gay and lame.
@@maximus7288 Because you could never make Revan black or female in the original game.
@@Double-R-Nothingmaybe, but definitely not woke and gay.
They should have made KOTOR III 15 years ago.
It was in early development, barely into the concept art phase, before it was cancelled during a management shakeup at LucasArts.
not after ii. it sucked.,
They never even finished KOTOR II.
@@thefamilydad8635 Fans did, and the Restored Content Mod is awesome.
@@MishraArtificerWhat year was that around? Probably late 2000s?
the Space Marine 2 dev team working on the KOTOR game brought me more faith in the project considering how well that game turned out.
Good to hear!
"This video was brought to you by Padding McPaddington"
Like seriously, I'm impressed how many times you've managed to repeat "Kotor isn't called Kotor Remake, just Kotor".
agreed. this video is horrible.
I'm gonna avoid this channel from now on.
Honestly I’d much rather get a remaster of the original game that ups the textures and introduces native support for modern resolutions, heck throw ray tracing in there too idc. I don’t want a remake because you just know they’ll modern audience the shit out of it. They can’t help themselves. The dialogue story and characters don’t need altering. At all. In any way shape or form. The game is damn near perfect the way it is. It would be like remaking The Godfather. Stop. Just leave it alone.
Disney don't care mate, they're in it for the $, or they would've put more resources into this game instead of 1-2devs..
They'll happily sh*t out more star wars games that suck in the meantime anyways
No nonsense talk. You take be best bit's and add it to new sxxt
Given how their CEO felt "down-to earth" in the YT comment. I don't think they would start from a very deep water to... make kotor 3 without at least selling remasters of the older games, but I think the age of the games makes remakes much more optimal way.
“That sounds like precisely what they SHOULD be doing”
Not just the age, but the engines are spaghetti messes not allowing remasters really. Even mods can't do much besides textures and weapons looking slightly higher poly.
No, it NEEDS ported to a new engine even for a simple remaster, but at that point a remake is the better option. Smooth out the admittedly clunky gameplay of the original, give it an action combat system(no one would cry over the removal of dice roll combat. Ignore anyone claiming otherwise), and expanded upon story/worlds.
I swear to Christ, Disney better leave them alone and just let them do a faithful remake I got a really sneaky suspicion that Disney does not want to make Knights of the Old Republic Canon in Disney Star Wars. So they're going to make changes to fit more in line with Disney Star Wars. No, just no a thousand times no!
Bastilla and Revan will totally be called "a dyad", because what we really need in 2024 is more the Last Jedi reminders.
Revan is already Canon the events of the game may not be yet but they definitely plan on making it Canon at some point this remake wouldn't have made it Canon anyway though
Only reason I see them making it not a remake is because Disney is gonna make it completely new and push their agenda through it tbh
@@ПетрПетров-о6ъ9нIf thats the case, doesnt matter if it does not alter the story much IMO. They did have a force bond, so it does not really interrupt much.
I noticed something interesting recently about this game. I was looking at jobs and noticed something about a marketting position that opened up at Disney under Lucasfilms and their games division. They listed a few games the studio is known for. Star Wars Outlaws was first listed and then it was Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic, Jedi Survior, and one other I can't remember, but also recent. Kotor stood out the most to me, and I was wondering why they would list that one specifically. Part of me was thinking that they are looking to finally start marketing the game and the third and final entry for the Jedi series. While it is a popular Star Wars game and worth putting, there are other new games they could have stated like Star Wars Battlefront 2 that weren't. I'm very much hoping that they do work on this game and we get to see something soon.
Nice find! It might be that the marketing for the game will start building up soon who knows!
More than a KOTOR remake at this point I would love KOTOR 3 properly made. Especially with Chris Avellone at the helm
We don't need more Star Wars deconstruction stories. KOTOR 2 was a mess anyways story-wise, and The Last Jedi was another example on how deconstructions do not make good Star Wars stories.
@@comicsans1689i thought the story of the jedi exile was pretty clear and concise, what didnt you like about it?
@@jon7684 The story really meanders around so that Kreia has more time to preach to you. And post-Telos is a confusing mess, TSLRCM or not.
@@comicsans1689 The reason the game is such a mess is that they had 14 months to make the damn thing. If they had a reasonable schedule, they would've been able to fix stuff like the dumbass refugee side quest on nar shaddaa
@@BilberryBogwonAGD Giving Obsidian time means nothing. They actually make better games when they are rushed. KOTOR 2 and New Vegas are more beloved than Neverwinter Nights 2 and Alpha Protocol. In fact, Alpha Protocol had four years of development yet it released in the same state as KOTOR 2. The truth is that Obsidian does not know how to create reasonable development goals. They have lofty plans that can never be fully realized, and they struggle to condense them into something cohesive. Compare them to when Bioware rushed to release Jade Empire. Obsidian's management is the weakest link.
Take a look into the names of remakes. Dead Space isn't titled "Dead Space Remake", neither are the Resident Evil remakes. The FF7 "remake" is titled exactly that because of lore, as the sequel is also named Rebirth instead of "Remake Part 2". I don't think it's a deep reason, but obviously the game has been undergone a lot of changes.
I hope you’re wrong. I hope they’re reevaluating and deciding on a remaster rather than remake. A remake just isn’t going to live up the original writing.
RE4 and Dead Space are different beasts, those games were always kind of goofy. It’s ok to rewrite the story cause they’re just one offs. They’re rebooting the whole franchise.
KOTOR deserves better than that
Having played a lot of space marine 2 lately, saber genuinely have my faith for now. Imo kotor is in genuinely great hands
It could be a rebrand to distance itself from aspyr and Sony
Possible
But had Sony been confirmed to have their involvement completely removed?
What if they just fucking remaster 1 and 2 and then also add 3 all in one game and that's why it's taking so long. The world would set on fire
This is what I’m PRAYING for🙏🏾
That's what the OG devs said they wanted to do back then. Fuck EA!!!
Don’t hold your breath. The game industry is crashing.
That’s what I was thinking/hoping for
Dont make me cum like that
I want a remake because I can basically remaster the game through mods. Sure, it is not the same, but the chance to play as a Revan properly in his own game with high-quality graphics as well as more refined controls would be so good.
Not everyone can mod their games. Newcomers deserve the chance to experience this classic in modern graphics, especially if it’s reintegrated into canon.
The only benefit of a remake is that people who played the original would get a slightly different (albeit worse) version of the story.
A remaster that changes the gameplay but keeps everything else as it was offers benefits for EVERYONE
@Arander92 How would you know the story would be worse. Also, I get modding can be difficult, but we do live in a world where you can google how to do it, especially since Kotor is so simple when modding. Also, I do not want another battlefront classic collection experience. I am not spending another £30 for a game with slightly better graphics when I can spend £60 on a game with a brand new engine and possibly reworked controls that are similar yet different to the original. I don't mind remasters, but I am just paying more for a game I already have. Let people rework these stories and create their own. Also, Kotor has a great story, not a brilliant one, I can live with a change of story if it means I can experience something new.
@Arander92 Sorry, I don't mean to come across as rude. If you want a remaster, then request away, I just wanted to share my view.
@@Arander92 Remakes don’t always change the story. A remaster would be very limited in terms of graphical improvements. And a lot of people I’ve spoken to won’t even touch the game because of the gameplay.
@@Arander92 Not all remakes are worse. Dead Space? Better.
RE1R? Better, infsct it's the gold standard.
Most are equivalent to the original even.
Phenomenal detective work! Appreciate you keeping us informed 💯
PLEASE KEEP DISNEY AWAY FROM THE OLD REPUBLIC
It's smart to not have any news until KOTOR is ready to be shown. Whether it's a reimagining or a remake with the same mechanics, the game will be one of the most anticipated RPGs since Final Fantasy VII Remake.
I think it could get a reannouncement at the game awards, or at star wars celebration next year. Either way I think we could be getting news fairly soon
My same Thoughts.
As much as I love the original KotOR, I think I would prefer a new entry in the same series or style over a remake or remaster.
I just want it done right, make me feel the magic of kotr without feeling try hard or any type of gender bending/ politicians agenda. It would be fine if it's just a remaster, it would sell just fine. Just want the game and fingers crossed for it done with care.
Since it's cut content from the original game...what if they finished the romance with Juhani and the female PC?
It probably will be. Lets be real
With Saber CEO's recent stuff I am actually optimistic.
If their doing a remaster, I sure hope their adding Sleyheron and Yuthura as a companion.
And a love interest.
Why? They don't add much.
@@Lewis-jn8ry They couldnt add much because they were scapped concepts lol
I think its unnecessary.
Here's a thought. They should have brought on the apeiron dev to do an official remake and let them cook.
I'm hoping for both a remake and a remastered. Either is fine for me, I want to go back into the Old Republic a kick Malek's butt again and again. If it's a remake I hope the Character Customizer is reworked, and maybe add more clothing/weapon designs. I hope that it does super well and they rework/remaster Sith Lords next, maybe add the deleted content and whatnot.
I wonder if it will include KOTOR 2, same engine and what not so it could be a "Complete" edition.
and incl. the lost "dlc" content of kotor 2 too
why would they bundle the 2 games together when they can split them up and sell them separately? you have to think like a company would.
Space Marine 2 was so fkn good, if they are the devs behind KOTOR now I'm WAY more positive about the project than when fkn Aspyr were involved.
When you said reboot as an option, I do wonder if perhaps they will go back to the Mandalorian Wars and start the new game series from there. It seems like an effective tie in with the more recent Mandalorian TV show which will also be worked on as a movie as a means to reach new audiences.
Who knows! Anything is a possibility...
in a world fulll of capcom remakes, why oh why cant we just get a solid Bioware remake.
This and Dragon Age Origins man...
The Legend has returned! Thanks for the update man!
I dunno, I've been around for a few weeks :P
@@100StarWars I know you’ve been around. It’s just nice to hear a KOTOR update. Again thanks for that.
Just give a simple remaster with modern resolution support. I don't need new quest lines or new companions. The entire love interest/ fuck every pixel on the screen has no real place in the original story. Yes I know the entire Bastila/ Carth thing is huge part of the story which is fine. But I don't need to romance Bastila's mom or Zalabaar. It's weird how in the last 25 years you have to have 10 romance options in a game aimed at pre-teens and younger. Having a limit on two is fine, which the relationship building in the old games wasn't focused on romance, it was a nice bonus at the end of the game. However I enjoy the fact that its not a must or isn't fisted down the players throat like in mass effect or dragon age. Its Star wars and giving it a heavy or serious romance is just out of place and weird to me.
Dragon Age Origins did pretty well with its approval meter opening up romance paths, but also opening up new friendly dialogue as well.
KOTOR was rated T for teen, and Mass Effect was rated M for mature; neither were aimed at pre-teens and younger. Players from the era in which those games were made enjoyed the romance options. I'd rather have a choice of 10 romantic suitors than being pushed into an arranged relationship (makes for better roleplaying). I'd say those games were groundbreaking, in that respect.
Wish they would just make Kotor 3 with Chris Avellone as the director and along with Drew Karpyshyn as the chief writer. I know that will never ever happen, but I dream of a kotor 3 such as that.
I camt see a sequel without Chris avellone being all that compelling given how swtor and its tie in books went ans the fact that Karpyshyn has already shown he's happy to disregard kotor 2 content
They only need Chris Avellone. And he worked on the Fallen Order games, so there’s precedent for him working on SW recently
Drew has a bad case of Dave Filoni syndrome when it comes to characters he didn’t invent.
@@mleadenham1 100%! He created Revan who was great, but he also created Kai Leng... talk about dropping the ball on character creation lol
Well Swtor Is a direct sequel, but changing the genre
I hope so very much this KOTOR (or whatever) game doesn't become a hyped up bomb.
Yeah. I'm hoping that whatever form it takes, Reboot, Reimagine, or Remaster it's still a great KotOR game, not some new thing trying to ride the love so many people have for the originals
It's been awhile since I've checked in on your channel Luke.
It's still awesome as always.
For me I would just love a new RPG star wars game. One where you start off as a Padawan and move up. There's plenty of room to make the game in between the old and new republic. They could even go further back in time and do the exar kun war era.
So…… if it’s not a remake/remaster…. the overhaul total conversion mod was DMCA’D and we won’t be able to play it with modern graphics/controls (namely jumping)
Here to say happy new years! Hope you’re doing well Luke 100% Star Wars!
Click bait, nothing to see here
I mean not really clickbait, this is a new update that the game is alive and well
@@eksqc2825 no it's clickbait, "everythings change" what changes -- nothing at all, they're still working on it just don't use "remake" that's all it boils down too.
"might change everything" it changes fuck all
Click bait word salad for 10 minutes. The game developer studio did not add remake to their games title. Your welcome.
Yeah it’s clickbait but it’s still cool they show the game is still alive and in making
Remaster or remake…as long as they take their time to make a great game that’s completed and polished it’ll make no real difference to me.
If space marine 2 devs are the one making this game we are truly going to eat good
Dude i had no idea there was Revan stuff on sale.
My son is named after Revan, so you know i gotta look into this
Have fun shopping! ;)
I certainly hope this means the exclusivity for PS goes away.
@Temple277 I hope so, too. I am primarily a PS player, but all this exclusive stuff just stops me from buying certain games. I can't afford to buy an Xbox Series X just to play the new Halo game or whatever, so that means that many people miss out. I get that most people can afford to, so they do gain money from exclusive games, but I just want to play Halo on PS and Spider-Man on XBox
It was so bad Sony asked for their money back lol. That exclusivity was over years ago.
However, all that being said, I'm still pissed I can't play Kotor on my PS.
Excellent find man!! I'd probably fall in the camp of thinking they just dropped the word remake and it will still be that. As you said, Dead Space, Resident Evil etc have done it. Yet again Until Dawn doesn't have anything else in the name and that's more of a remaster/remake hybrid.
Star Wars RPG seems like it would be huge, and adding on to this timeline would kill if it’s done right
What if the reason they're not calling it The knights of the Old Republic remake is because they're not remaking just the first one what if they're remaking both and adding them together in a bundle kind of game
Then ima be happy they can take my money now
Only thing that needs to change about this game is that they need to have kotor 2 gameplay with kotor 1 story. And whatever skills/feats you can add. Maybe custom lightsabers and blasters and maybe Yuthura Ban as a companion. But nothing else.
My thought is that if they make it a traditional TPS as opposed to the D20 RPG style of game, then it's technically not a remake.
I think remaking 1 and 2 having KOTOR 3 and having a prequel to the first game would be great too it is what I would like.
I hope the leviathan is bigger and more explorable. That would be Cool.
I feel like if they were already into heavily into development then they wouldn’t scrap it just to remaster it
I want this to be like Star Wars Elder Scrolls. I have high hopes for this. And I hope this game FINALLY cements The Old Republic within Canon.
Thanks for covering, to me it definitely does look like some sort of re-announcement coming next year. I am sure saber has very different goals for it than aspyr had at first
I think a re-announcement is most likely!
I hope it’s good especially after outlaws
I love my kotor and kotor 2 overly modded versions, but the Mass Effect Legendary Edition and the amazing work of the modding community for that game has made me think a remaster for it might be a decent thing. Though I am still hoping on an eventual Kotor 3 since the multiverse came into public eye since marvel.
I have a feeling and hope that the omission of “Remake” from the title is actually a positive. I think Sabre is actually changing the fighting game play in the reboot of the series to make it more in line with modern gaming. I see it being like Jedi Survivor but with less puzzles and open world like the original. What would be great is the z as nice mentioned plus a Starfield or No Mans Sky type planet movement. Wishful thinking but that would make this epic
It'll probably be closer to Xenoblade, it's a CRPG, not a Soulslike.
Jedi survivor is in a completely different genre, and the sekiro combat wouldn't mesh at all with kotor's multi-character gameplay
Maybe it will be a true remake. I hope it is. I hope the story follows the original story.
i need this and star wars eclipse right now
I want a really good quality remaster like diablo 2 or command and conquer. Where everything is the same just with visual and quality improvements. That said, KOTOR could be better with just remaking the game into something modern and even larger. Disney probably wants it completely remade because they keep taking Lucas Arts titles and making it their own. It's not the old republic anymore, it's now the high republic or something I heard. So they will probably have a list of what they want in the game to make it fit the mouse storylines.
I’d like to think either now they are making the remake include both KotOR 1 and 2 together or maybe a third game for the series
I like they are being quiet about the game tbh
No news is good news as they say...
@@TheRoot2944 There’s being quiet, and then there is acting like they are ashamed of their product. If I was a game developer who had the rights to KOTOR, I’d be dancing on the rooftops! Saber on the other hand, acts like they are the subject of a 60 Minutes expose whenever they are asked about their game.
I know that this is a huge dream, but what I am hoping for this is to kinda start a new trilogy, based odd the original. What I mean is that they get to make the full original revan storyline in someway, and remake the second one, fix all the issues and have it actually be finished, and finally make the third game that will finish the KotOR storyline.
I know this is a pipe dream though but seeing that they might be making something more of their own kinda gives me a bit of excitement because if they do it well, they could make a sequel and so on.
Man . I need this game. Like I need it
Me too Alex... me too
You would make a good Leo Strauss scholar. Reading between the lines lol
At this pace it may be a next gen launch title
LOL, not wrong there haha
Feel like they could be combining one and two and add on the adventures of Revan and meetra surik afterwards or possibly have a custom character option for both that meet up after the events of two
I heard a rumor stating that the reason the title lost the remake in it is because they are putting KOTOR 1 and KOTOR 2 sith lords put together with all original content. But then again this was heard A bit ago. It might be worth considering it as a theory from some random. I am hoping they are keeping their vision.
The way I see them calling the KOTOR Remake just “KOTOR” reminds me of when Nintendo remade Super Mario RPG but just called it “Super Mario RPG” instead of Super Mario RPG Remake/Remaster like most games would is because the title “Remake” is something us fans would call it so that way we wouldn’t get it confused with the originals. Sorry if this comment is confusing but I tried to explain it as best as I could
Would be cool if thay come up with a new Active Combat System. Would go crazy
Ive been playing space marine 2, and i have very high hopes lads, we are in good hands if they bring this out
They are keeping it secret for good reason.
Me: trying to give my sims the perfect life I can’t have
My sim: starts a massive house fire, gets electrocuted, gets abducted and impregnated by aliens
Honestly I would wanna see both kotor games like how Ubisoft released assassin’s creed 3 and liberation under one title
We just gotta be patient and let them cook that’s all.
If it's anything like re2. I'll be OK with it. I love the og and remake in different ways as they are fundamentally different games and I love them in their own way. I'm more partial to the og of course as it was the first m rated game I ever played.
Let just hope it's still on track.
Fingers crossed its a hybrid between being a remaster and a remake.
As in remake the gameplay ONLY and then just remaster everything else
So like Metal Gear Solid Delta? Gameplay is essentially a remake while staying true to the original MGS3 whereas the script/dialog and VO are all the same as MGS3.
It’s possible
I’ve never heard of that. I’ll have to look into it though. The fact that something like that already exists gives me hope!
I need this. I just really hope Disney has as little to do with it as possible.
Knowing how ambitious Saber Interactive is as a development studio this is for sure going to be a Kotor reboot. However if they do take this approach I hope they don’t dumbed down like Space Marine II or Jedi Academy and instead keep it FULLY story interactive first (with multiple choice dialogue options) and Gameplay focused second like Kotor and SWTOR.
Hopefully Saber isn’t that foolish. They would defeat themselves before the battle even began
Bummer. I was hoping the sci-fi game Larian was working on was KOTOR 3. Larian making a KOTOR would be a blissful dream.
I hope they use the Kotor II upgrade system rather than Kotor I
I still remember playing KOTOR on Xbox with a buggy disc and having my jaw drop at the plot twist. I saved the game and went straight to bed 😂 I just hope they keep the story mostly intact. I'm ok with some modernized mechanics as long as there's some depth and customization
I dunno about the name change, but it seems likely that they're avoiding advertising the game yet because they're not far enough in the development. As a few mistakes made by Paradox recently have shown us, it's not a good idea to raise the hype too early, not until you're relatively confident that you can keep your schedule and the game will be in an acceptable condition when going into early access (let alone if they don't do early access at all).
I want to see Lego Kotor toys.
Same man
I wonder if it's going to be the kotor 3. It was actually planned as a fight against the sith in the uncharted space, but the project was scrapped. I wonder if their trying to bring it back.
I don’t care, i trust the company. I have a lot of friends who loved the space marine lore who say theyre massively in love with space marine and that its a dream come true. I know these guys will do kotor justice. Especially since warhammers themes are not woke coded and are gruesome. Just like kotor 🔥
I still can’t believe it won’t be on Xbox. I loved the KOTOR games so much and now won’t be able to play this same with SWOTOR
So they might be completely scrapping the KOTOR canon, and putting a new one in.
More confident than ever that this happens now given the success of Space Marines, investments, plus the free cash flow visibility on the Kotor remake given the development stage.
on one hand I really want the KOTOR remake/remaster to happen and be good. On the other I see the original game, a game I have played and replayed numerous times and think "Well I can play this awesome game" and thus realize I don't NEED a remake/remaster no matter whether it be good or bad. So when the original reveal made me jump up and down (at the expense of my fragile back) but now after that excitement has settled I am not in any particular rush to see this game come out.
I suspect Disney wants this Kotor game to be canon therefore Sabre Interactive is making in essence a "new" Kotor rather then a remake.
Adjustments to the story and the universe as we know it from Legends/EU will be made but it will still be the Old Republic, Mandalorian Wars, Jedi Civil War etc. For example they might add the concept of bleeding lightsaber crystals to turn them red and maybe add Disney era alien species to the game. Cross-guard lightsabers might be added as well.
What I am afraid of is that they might change character's personalities, their values and their relationships with Revan.
But I do trust Sabre Interactive not to do that last bit. They will do what they can to please Disney without angering the fans of the Old Republic too much.
If this new Kotor sells, Disney will want to make more content to milk the Old Republic era but they can only do that as long as the Old Republic story and the concepts it introduces does not conflict with the stories and the universe Disney has been creating since they bought Star Wars IP.
We need a remake 100%. Speaking on the mechanics side of the original game 👍
People who say they'd rather have a remaster than a remake are most likely confusing these two terms and in fact they want a remake, which is a reasonable thing to wish for as the game has aged very badly and new textures wouldn't fix it. People are now buying PC equipment that's eons ahead of what was available at the game's launch. New game engines are also many generations ahead of the game engine for the original KOTOR. It'd be sad not to take advantage of the newest technologies and introduce this game to a whole new audience. Perhaps few more side quests here and there would also bring a dose of fresh air from the story perspective to the old gamers.
I wish they would do both lmao. Remaster the OG games and maybe make Knights of the Old Republic 2 more finished and then put out a new one in the Disney canon. In my head it would be like dragon age or baudlers gate 3 but that is probably just me being delusional
It honestly sounds like a silent hype project. The merchandise being released quietly and the lack of attention on what could be another game of the year tells me that they are waiting for something in particular. What that is, I can't say, but I think it might be things like this video and the reactions to it. If they have decided it isn't a remake anymore they could be looking to see what the pre-existing fan-base thinks before really ramping up into full development.
honestly i would rather have a game set in the old republic rather then a remake
Honestly, i would absolutely love a remake with cut content added in, for both games. But, would be just as happy with a new one. Just not another MMO, please!
I'm getting a feeling they're going to make this game a PlayStation 6 exclusive, cuz every 6 years, a new console comes out and we're probably going to hear about the PlayStation 6 by next year! So much waiting to do.