I did that for my i7 13700kf that was always running over 80° when gaming, now it doesn't even reach 60°, I haven't seen any consequence in performance, so it seems like a very good solution, thanks man!
after watching soooo many videos of "pro overclockers" I decided to give it a try to this video, and it comes out that this method really works. Higher scores on cinebench, and having the whole system not even close to 80 degrees. Amazing Job Man!! Keep it up!!
Great vid, really appreciate the simplicity. I was about to buy another cooler to try and tame my 13900KF's heat. I was getting so frustrated because my current cooling is decent, Artic Freezer II 360, and should've been able to handle it. But, I kept seeing my temps in 90c to 100c even after remounting and carefully reapplying thermal paste, in addition to all my fans moving a lot of air through my case. I don't do any overclocking, just like to use things stock, which made me even more frustrated. After I stumbled upon the concept of undervolting, I started digging around and kept finding so many different videos that were treating it like overclocking for those that want to spend hours tweaking everything to the edge of failure. With your video I was finally able to easily change a couple things quickly and greatly drop my temps in one try; Instead of messing around with 50 different things over and over for hours until my system stops crashing like with all the other videos I found. Now I can play Cyberpunk with my CPU package running 60c to 70c instead of 90c to 100c.
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you might be doing something wrong, I got the same cooler and my temps never get to 90° even when gaming streamings and playing videos with a lot of tabs open (all at the same time).
voltage changes to my i9-13900KS lead to bluescreens, but disabling efficiency cores solves my game crash issues. This is what I was searching for. Thank you
i just have disabled the 5,8 ghz boost clock. My system was just instable in Idle because the 5,8 boost clock. And also it can be helpful to lower the Loadline Calibration.
You explained everything perfectly, without water, I tortured my head when others told me how to set it up, I've never encountered this, but by going to your video and rewinding to 2:30, everything is fine, thank you.
Can't thank you enough, I know I have a good case (phanteks g500a) but I was beginning to second guess it. After your video I am super happy with my entire pc, specially the cpu temps. Money saver, thanks again.
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am glad this came up as suggested video, i like it, so detailed tutorial, in future i would like to see variations with other motherboards as most of us dont know much about bios and different settings as you quickly explained, its possible to not find the settings or change the wrong things, thanks for your video.
Thanks a lot for the support, I really appreciate it! I'll make sure to do a video comparing the various BIOSes more in depth, thanks a lot for the idea!
wow , nice man thanks. I kept trying alot of tweaking for my 13900k but your guide helped me manage 5400MHz at 84C and 39500 score in Cinebench32 all this with air cooling
@clausbohm9807 I'm using NH-D15S, i've added a second fan though. I'm also using a thermal grizzly contact frame for the cpu. In a Fractal Torrent case stock fans (just added an exhaust on the rear)
13900k doesnt do that score at that speed, generally speaking (I mean it can, but there is something else going on beyond just full time 5.4). What else are you doing with the rig? minimum background tasks, etc. or increased ring bus speed? increased e-core speed?
Your PC may boot even with -0.075V or less, but that doesn’t mean it is stable. Always test it with prime95 afterwards, cause Cinebench isn’t the most demanding stress test. I was able to boot and even play games on my i9 13900k at -0.075V, but prime95 was failing nearly immediately even at -0.050V.
@@marcus2024gamer larger PSU it may seem that the current one is enough but some spikes and transient wattage after a little while of playing was the culprit.
I did this on my 13900k but i get lower results on cinebench r23 and my cpu is 100 degrees, when i put auto vcore the temps drops a lot but my cinebench score dropped 50% idw what to do
Hey thanks so much for this video brother didn’t even see the first setting option haha. Coming from 3770k on gig board now 13600kf got it under 141w and 80f at the 5.1 stock turbo boost and setup my fan and pump curves and everything seems golden! Did a 1h on prime 95 small fft
Would be curious to see an update video for best settings with the new 0x129 bios updates. using this technique my undervolt no longer seems stable and with the intel default settings the cpu is running hotter than before.
Hello, how are you? I did the exact same steps as you, but there is a problem. Nothing changed in temperature with the i9 14900kf. Why? To the point that I lowered the voltage to minus 0.300 and nothing changed, my motherboard is a Gigabyte B760 Gaming
@@ImWateringPSUs Hello brother, I am sorry I did not pay attention to the message. Thank you for responding and trying to help me. I did the exact same steps that you did, but to no avail. Is my motherboard locked? Or does it need to update the BIOS, especially since I have had it since generation 12?
Hello buddy, firstly let me tell what an amazing video on this subject and a great informative channel overall this is! I wish you a good luck with your channel... 👍 Secondly, let me ask you a question - I have a 13700K with Z790 Aero G motherboard. Before seing your video from the information I gathered so far I managed to UV my CPU simply by ONLY changing ONE parameter in the BIOS, the Dynamic Vcore(DVID) to -0,080V. It dropped my max. temp on Cinebench R23 (with Arctic 360 AIO) from 95 to 82°C and gained about 1700 points more in the multicore test. The system seems stable. After watching your video my question is - are the additional steps that you do here necessary and if so can you please briefly explain why (on each parameter you change)? I am sorry to bother you this way, there are MANY different discussions on how to make a basic UV on the 13th gen CPUs and me being a novice in this field not sure what to believe. I just want to make a decent UV for a general work, gaming and occasionally some rendering without being afraid of damaging my CPU. Hope you understand. Thank you in advance and good luck buddy! PS: you've got a new sub here 🙂
First of all, thanks a lot! If your goal is strictly lower temperature, then I'd say you're pretty much set. You might wanna disable your e-cores but that's very, VERY workload dependant. If you want more performance then yes, I would recommend the other steps as we're basically allowing the CPU to boost higher and longer!
I am actually working on a RAM Overclocking & Timing tuning video right now, I personally think the best way to run it is Undervolted AND with tuned RAM!
@@ImWateringPSUs Yep! That's what I've done to my 13600K. Massive improvements in temps/power and noticeable improvements in gaming performance! Please show AIDA64 before and after tuning 🙏. Thanks 😊
I'm REALLY happy it was helpful, I do think these CPUs are set with way too much voltage out of the box so I'm glad you Undervolted it! Also great settings on the PLs
I have new settings which I am using for my i9-13900k and i9-14900k. I don’t like the uncertainty of undervolting so prefer working with power and clock limits. With these settings I got a couple of FPS BETTER on CP2077 and Forza Horizon Benchmark, went from 99th to 98th percentile on PC Mark Extended, passed the Time Spy Stress Test, Time Spy was within a whisker of the average for my hardware, Cinebench R23 finished between 37-38000, CPU-Z, Intel Diag tool and Prime95 was stable and < 90 degrees. MCE off, PL1 and PL2 limit to 225, limit P-core boost to 5.3 GHz and E-core boost to 4.0GHz, and use balanced power profile in Windows (although I do disable core parking to keep system highly responsive). Oh and just XMP on the RAM. I didn’t change voltage offset or LLC values. With these settings, you should have no stability issues, be able to run on an air cooler like the NH-D15 (what I use on my 3 i9 13th/14th gen systems) and will barely notice any performance changes in gaming or productivity.
Simple and it worked with my 13900KS. Cinebench 40720 (No overclock), (undervolt - 90) max temp 86c. Aorus Master Z790 and a 360 AIO. =============================================================================================================== Update: I managed to further lower the offset voltage to -175 by changing the load line to medium. This gives me a lower temperature at anything other than full load. So now instead of seeing 1.32 volts at low and low moderate load I'm seeing 1.2 or less. Max voltage at anytime under any circumstances is 1.28 volts. It really pays of to lower the voltage of this CPU. I kept lowering the offset voltage until I started seeing instability which was -200, I changed it back to -175 and then adjusted the loadline to a setting that gave me mid 90's under full load @ 5.5K. which meant reducing the loadline from Turbo to medium. Now at a room temp of 73.4 degrees F I get high 20's C @ idle....These additional changes were in addition to the first method listed in this video.
It really depends on the game and usecase, however by disabling them the P-Cores are gonna sustain a higher turbo boost and that offsets the background tasks by quite a bit if you have a properly set OS!
Well that’s a good point, but that’s why there are many options to choose from when tuning! I’d really only recommend disabling the e-cores if you’re strictly doing intensive gaming, competitive possibly!
Running an i9 13900K on 5.5ghz p-cores and 4.4 e-cores will never run on -0.75 let alone -1.00 Put another video you running cinebench with these undervolts.
Rather amazing to have you comment on my video! I think you’re the biggest channel to ever watch them ahaha. -0.075V will work for 99% of chips, but the premises is that you need to have a very good motherboard and PSU to run this effectively. UV very much is based on having better hardware than the minimum intended specs. -0.1V will require a lucky CPU!
@@ImWateringPSUs Would like to just say I had an undervolt of -0.065 on my i9 13900k following this video, and this caused problems launching Unreal Engine 5 games with the "out of video memory" error unless I lowered my performance clock ratio speed to 55 or less. Turns out the undervolt was unstable at the higher clock speeds, so @MERPTV is correct in what they are saying. You are not going to be able to run certain tasks that make your CPU boost, like compiling shaders etc which is what UE5 games do. It's better to just follow the intel's recommended power and current limit, PL1 and PL2 = 253w and current limit 307a. Motherboards auto settings use way too much power than these chips need which is what makes them run so hot. Turning off Multicore Enhancements is advised, also.
Solid video. Came here for a quick sanity check after reading some reddit comments on undervolting. I game, but my primary use-case is content creation in Blender, so mostly wanted stability and better all-core thermals. I ended up disabling ASUS Multicore Enhancement, leaving everything else on auto, and doing a -0.1v core voltage offset. Went up nearly 3,000 points in Cinebench, and temps are ~10c lower. Happy with the results. Compared to how much trouble I had getting my 4x16GB DDR5 to run stable at XMP speeds, this was a cakewalk. Wish I had done it sooner.
My bios looked nothing like this, it was basically a different language. The things you said to look for didn't show up, can't find anything that looks like internal core offset. The only thing I found was turning the e cores off.
@@ImWateringPSUs thx mate last night i bought a new pc,i9 13900kf,aorus z790,good corsair capellix 360 + 4 case fans,msi 4090 suprim,and 32 ram corsair 6000mh will go fine on the future!!!
Excellent video! In case anybody would be interested, I just overclocked my 13700K - P-cores: 5,6 GHz, E-cores: 4,4 GHz, CPU Vcore: 1,400 V, idle (@20°C ambient): 38°C, Cinebench R23 max: 92°C. I run a Z790 Aero G motherboard and Arctic 360 AIO with CPU frame upgrade.
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So I just did this 5mins ago, I run cod on all low settings pretty much and I did exactly what you did first from 0.75 and still hit 80° then I tried 0.100 and hit the same 80° mark
Thank you for this video. I followed some of the settings and set the voltage to -0.075 as suggested and selected Spec Enhance. Temps have dropped by 7 degrees and getting higher Cinebench R23 scores 😊 Cheers!
Hey, thanks for the info. I'm really bad at this so I have a question if you don't mind: What's the difference between lowering the voltage and setting the watts to max 90W (which is what I did) With this, temperatures are ok as well so I was just wondering what is better. Thanks!
No worries man, we're here to learn! If you power limit it via setting a fixed wattage you lose much more performance, via undervolting you do get the performance back but need to find stability!
I always undervolt my CPUs. The mobos need to have a default voltage that will work with any CPU but it's usually a worst case scenario. So you need to lower it to the minimum viable voltage for your specific SN CPU.
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I finally got my pc setup with a 13900KS and after 2 days of being guided thru getting 7200mhz ram stable, i tried to follow this. I set 5.6ghz sync all cores, Asus MCE Remove All Limits - 90c, LLC 2 and LLC 5 (i cant remember what the LLC 2 was but its LLC. 5 is the main one) and left it Auto voltage with a -0.05v offset & PL1/2 on auto or unlimited. It will, rarely Clock Watchdog bsod in Y Cruncher 2.5b with this. -0.075v offset wont even start (but wont crash). VST will fail every now and then as well, but the ram is okay bcs it passes 12 cycles tm5 usmus. I guess pushing the super fast ram is restricting how much room the cpu has to play with? At -0.05v 5.6ghz it still pulls 300w in CBR23. Im worried about degradation. If i limit to 253w, CB doesnt start. But you seem to be running the same RAM as me, corsair 7200mhz c34. I guess its because you disabled e-cores?
Tried the Undervolt with -0.075 but then i saw some WHEA CPU Errors in HWiNFO. After i made it back to stock, the errors where gone. So sadly not worked on my 13900K
Great video...can't wait for your video for 13700k...did everything from the video on my 13700k and the ideal temp dropped from 39C to 36C... but when I start any stress program several cores immediately jump to 100C...I have the same motherboard z790 Creator G... like i said: can't wait for the video for 13700k 😉
Thanks for the item of advice. My i9-13900KF runs at the same 42 in idle now, but the peak temperature under load dropped by 12 degrees (from 100 to 88).
Hey bro next undervolt video you do make sure you include some quick footage of OCCT Linepack Prime95 tests because stability is what everyone really want. That's the essential part always missing from your videos.
13900k with contact frame n kryonaut thermal paste on a z790 aorus elite ax ddr5 -0.075 does not work cinebench r23 fails i have to set it 0.045 ran cinebench r23 for 30mins stable max temp was 87c
The names are a bit different but the procedure really is the same, I actually have some extra videos on the channel with Asus boards (but different CPUs) so by crossreferencing them you should be able to set everything up properly :)
Hey man, first of all nice content, keep up the good work. I try this method for my i9 13900K but i have a black screen at start up and nothing happens. Do you suggest to use -0.050 to see what happens. Also the XMP1 option is necessary for this to work? Thank you in advance!
I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to leave some feedback! :) I’ve also got a few build videos on the channel and more coming, if you like the content consider subscribing as it really helps the channel! Yes do try -0.05 and no, the XMP is not needed
13900k with contact frame n kryonaut thermal paste on a z790 aorus elite ax ddr5 -0.075 does not work cinebench r23 fails i have to set it 0.045 ran cinebench r23 for 30mins stable max temp was 87c
0.075 will NOT work on most PC... (unless you bring down the speed of the CPU). Now, some people might hit the silicon lottery and get -0.075 to stablize, but most will not.
I found your tutorial and I would love to try it out on my NZXT N7 Z790 Motherboard - however the settings are so different I got scared no backed out :) Any chance you could make some updated instructions for this particular motherboard/BIOS? Thank you!
I'm using 13900. I can't manually adjust the settings you show. I can only put it in auto mode to lower the voltage. And yes, there was a significant temperature drop, but I lost a little bit of fps.
Should I update my bios first? I'm on F2 (which doesn't even have perfdrive) and the latest is F11d. Also, you talk about picking a perfdrive option based on cooling, I have a fan cooler, so I would pick Spec Enhance right?
@@Revalopod Cause F111b is a beta and i didn't want to recomend you a beta version and also someone had said some place i don't remember now where exactly that the F9 was the version with the fastest benchmaeks (and also has the newer UI introduced with F8 of course) But if you installed the f11b and works fine i guess you are fine then. And i have no idea how better those F9 benchmarks were anyway. . Probably not noticable at the big picture,
I have a 420mm Corsair AIO and it still runs warm. I managed to tweak it a few months ago and am able to keep it in the 58-67 degree range. I have a 240 aio before this one on my 12900k. It’s insane how much hotter the 13900k is. I also put a contact frame on it. TURN OFF ENHANCED TURBO also. Shit burns your cpu up
That's just facts. Power draw and temps are off the charts compared to 12th and out of the box the 13900K is pushed way too far beyond its limits imho. They fixed most of the contact issues but a contact frame is never a bad idea too! Thanks a lot for commenting and for the extra data!
Thanks for the quick tutorial! I was debating myself about should I get 13900K. I’m on 12700K. I dunno because Arrow Lake is Q2-Q3 2024 away. And I’m on a long term so….what’s your opinion on 13900K?
Hey there, first of all thanks a lot for the support! I think it really depends on your usecase scenario: for gaming, unless you're running a 4090 at 1080p, it's useless. On the other side, if you work with your PC, then the multicore increase from a 12700K to a 13900K would be significant, so it could be worth the money! I think the 13900K is a great chip and that 13th gen in general goes FAST, it definitely is power hungry and a pretty high temp chip though!
disable "Turbo boost techonlogy" also helps a lot and after using the first method it feels even more stable. my temperatures weren´t too high but they could go from 50 to 75 very suddenly and I didn´t like that... and with this setting, playing, for example, horizon forbidden west in Ultra settings, the max temp I got was 56 with Thank you :)
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What is a safe daily voltage for 13th gen? My only experience is devils canyon, and i run 4.7ghz @ 1.275v (not sure if totally stable, i can browse and do things and even play modded minecraft for weeks but 1.27v kept bsod in Apex) or 4.6 @ 1.25v (new testing) ... anyway, and 1.35v+ for a daily on these was a terrible idea. But on 13th gen looking at STOCK! I see 1.4v+! I dont really understand how offset works or if fixed manual is better,, but what would be a safe daily voltage? 1.35v max?
Sooo, the 1.35V+ voltage you see is actually for light loads where only a few cores are working. I'd really recommend staying at around 1.25/1.275V effective voltage for day to day use, while keeping the temps in check, especially if you're running heavy AVX workloads!
Which chip are you using? The 13600k undervolts really well at stock core ratios. I got -100mv, 5.1 all p core, 4.0 all ecore & 47 ring stable 2 hours prime95.
@@ImWateringPSUs oh you can control when and how much voltage the chip gets now rather than just "this is the voltage it will use in all situations to achieve the clock"? Like in cinebench it will recognize the load is enormous and not aim for, say, 6ghz @ 1.45v, and instead drop to 1.35v @ 5.7 - but when you're gaming and the demand is not high, it'll throw 1.45 to achieve the 6ghz? definitely sounds like a lot more time in the BIOS and endless tweaking than before, though it is cool to see the tech go that way - i'd still feel uncomfortable seeing my cpu being given above 1.4v... i hope there will be 'true' per core overclocking one day (maybe there is already), where you can work on 1 core at a time with separate voltages per core to know exactly the limits. So you could have a system running all the time at 6, 6, 6, 59, 57, 58, 55, 55, 56, etc varying cores with all different voltages.
Really useful! Thanks! 2 things: You did not show Load Line Calibration - which is supposed to be important for undervolting. Voltage will drop under high loads and it can go low enough to make the system unstable. LLC helps with that and should let you put in more offset for overall lower stable voltage. ALSO - you put your hands in front of the screen a lot. Often you block things that are important to read. I had to skip back and forth so I could see the whole voltage setting line, but for a couple of them, you never moved your hands out of the way.
Be careful with UV, my cpu can work with UV -0.1v. or even more BUT in certain software I have blue screen (for example: coding video files, StaxRip, FastFlix, Topaz).
@@Thronessjahebebnz for MSI, it looks like adaptive+offset allows for the type of setting @ImWateringPSUs describes (a negative 0.075 offset). Edit: here is his video using a Z690 MSI bios th-cam.com/video/UE8Ce2fbYfc/w-d-xo.html
Great content! I did the tweaks suggested by you, thing is my PC now keeps crashing on every game I launch everytime, I even changed internal CPU Vcore offset back to its original value all to no avail 😢 I suspect the issue might be the 4 16gb memory sticks at 6k frequency, or maybe this video is not intended for i7 owners? Ps: I too own a Z790 Aero G
Thanks again dude! That tip was very useful! No more game crashing and the system has finally stabilized, temps lowered from 75-80c to 60-65c! I was wondering though if fine tuning with Intel XTU would it lower temps even further?
Hey, I’m not able to get anything stable about 0.015 on an MSI Z790 Edge. Is there anything obvious I could be doing wrong? Everything apart from XMP is default. Cinibench wont run longer than 2 mins and temps are still relatively high at about ~ 320 W
If you are streaming you are probably using your GPU not CPU so safe to disable E-core. E-cores is only useful if you are using x264 encoding, photoshop, video editing and other heavy tasks based. Gaming and streaming using only P-core is fine.
Hello, I had a problem with the first method while using the AI enhanced core option in my BIOS settings - Blue Screen and complete PC crash. I found that disabling the AI enhanced cores option from the BIOS fixed this. Does this mean both options are incompatible simultaneously or do I need to do less undervolting? Help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
@@ImWateringPSUs Thanks for your reply. I tried from -1 to -0'5 but it was unstable even at -0'5, so I reset factory settings and enabled the 90 degrees protection in the BIOS. Since the last BIOS update I rarely see anything above 85 degrees, even with the protection disabled. But of course, I only use my PC for gaming.
I did that for my i7 13700kf that was always running over 80° when gaming, now it doesn't even reach 60°, I haven't seen any consequence in performance, so it seems like a very good solution, thanks man!
I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to write this! :)
Hi! I have i7 13700K and I’m curious did you copy “the second” option 1:1?
@@szymonk9275 Only the first one, just entered -0.075V, and it runs much quiet now too.
@@danielmunoz3452Thanks a lot
after watching soooo many videos of "pro overclockers" I decided to give it a try to this video, and it comes out that this method really works. Higher scores on cinebench, and having the whole system not even close to 80 degrees. Amazing Job Man!! Keep it up!!
Hey hey, I used to break records too back in the day :p Jokes aside, I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to comment :)
Can you say what are the values you changed on bios
@@shiarkousa2648 ????
@@ImWateringPSUs so which overclock works for Fortnite ?
Great vid, really appreciate the simplicity. I was about to buy another cooler to try and tame my 13900KF's heat. I was getting so frustrated because my current cooling is decent, Artic Freezer II 360, and should've been able to handle it. But, I kept seeing my temps in 90c to 100c even after remounting and carefully reapplying thermal paste, in addition to all my fans moving a lot of air through my case. I don't do any overclocking, just like to use things stock, which made me even more frustrated. After I stumbled upon the concept of undervolting, I started digging around and kept finding so many different videos that were treating it like overclocking for those that want to spend hours tweaking everything to the edge of failure. With your video I was finally able to easily change a couple things quickly and greatly drop my temps in one try; Instead of messing around with 50 different things over and over for hours until my system stops crashing like with all the other videos I found. Now I can play Cyberpunk with my CPU package running 60c to 70c instead of 90c to 100c.
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@@ImWateringPSUs hey brother mine is set to Optimization right now should i changed to Spec Enhance or 6Ghz Instant thing ?
Lies ..nothing can cool i9 13900kf
you might be doing something wrong, I got the same cooler and my temps never get to 90° even when gaming streamings and playing videos with a lot of tabs open (all at the same time).
cleanest bios guide ive watched
Thanks a lot my man, really :)
voltage changes to my i9-13900KS lead to bluescreens, but disabling efficiency cores solves my game crash issues. This is what I was searching for. Thank you
lol, I must disable efficiency cores to prevent Apex Legends from crashing, but I must enable them to play CS:GO without crashes..
Oh man, I fear you might have some performance enhancing setting causing issue tbh
i just have disabled the 5,8 ghz boost clock. My system was just instable in Idle because the 5,8 boost clock. And also it can be helpful to lower the Loadline Calibration.
The static voltage method literally fixed everything i had , thank you good sir :)
Thank you disabling the E-cores fixed my lag!! What amazing performance!!!
You explained everything perfectly, without water, I tortured my head when others told me how to set it up, I've never encountered this, but by going to your video and rewinding to 2:30, everything is fine, thank you.
Glad it was helpful and I really can’t thank you enough for the detailed feedback!
@@ImWateringPSUs hey brother mine is set to Optimization right now should i changed to Spec Enhance or 6Ghz Instant thing ?
Thank you, this helped tremendously for 14700k.
Can't thank you enough, I know I have a good case (phanteks g500a) but I was beginning to second guess it. After your video I am super happy with my entire pc, specially the cpu temps. Money saver, thanks again.
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am glad this came up as suggested video, i like it, so detailed tutorial, in future i would like to see variations with other motherboards as most of us dont know much about bios and different settings as you quickly explained, its possible to not find the settings or change the wrong things, thanks for your video.
Thanks a lot for the support, I really appreciate it! I'll make sure to do a video comparing the various BIOSes more in depth, thanks a lot for the idea!
Real life hero for my 14700KF and RTX 3090, love you ❤️🤗
Glad I could help :)
wow , nice man thanks. I kept trying alot of tweaking for my 13900k but your guide helped me manage 5400MHz at 84C and 39500 score in Cinebench32 all this with air cooling
I'm really happy it was helpful my man, those are the best settings you can get, it's impressive that you managed to do it air cooled too!
thanks for commenting your results, this gives me hope as I purchased the 13900k already and was contemplating putting the dark rock pro 4 for it
@@diomed96 how is it im curios
@clausbohm9807 I'm using NH-D15S, i've added a second fan though. I'm also using a thermal grizzly contact frame for the cpu. In a Fractal Torrent case stock fans (just added an exhaust on the rear)
13900k doesnt do that score at that speed, generally speaking (I mean it can, but there is something else going on beyond just full time 5.4). What else are you doing with the rig? minimum background tasks, etc. or increased ring bus speed? increased e-core speed?
wow really worked more fps lower temperature lower voltage, really thank you
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@xd-xs9bu did you do everything in the video or just the first part?
@@Simlife101everything in bios
WTF! Bro my temps before this was 99 now 75, ill be Subscriber for life!!
Hey man, it’s my pleasure! Thanks a lot for the support :)))
I like your personality, great intro 🤩👍
Ahahaha thanks a lot! :)
@@ImWateringPSUsIt's the best teaser I have ever seen on the subject. Impossible not to watch the rest of video after seing the intro 😎👍
Thanks alot bro. First video i found that wasnt bs
Your PC may boot even with -0.075V or less, but that doesn’t mean it is stable. Always test it with prime95 afterwards, cause Cinebench isn’t the most demanding stress test. I was able to boot and even play games on my i9 13900k at -0.075V, but prime95 was failing nearly immediately even at -0.050V.
That’s some very good advice! Always stress test any undervolt or overclock!
I have -0.133V and it runs stable...it's strange isn't it ? is my CPU broken maybe ?
@@S.V.23 its the best cpu you got
Thanks alot for your help! It worked wonders here!
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Excellent video man. My PC has been literally just turning off abruptly while gaming this is one of the steps in my plan.
Undervolted too low :) Give it a little less offset, subscribe to the channel and you’ll be fine
Mine is doing the same just using a fan cooler with 120mm fans play red dead plays'for about 10 15 mins then freezes then kicks me off any help ?
Mine ended up being too small of a power supply. Bumped mine up 100watts and it has never given me another issue
@@marcus2024gamer larger PSU it may seem that the current one is enough but some spikes and transient wattage after a little while of playing was the culprit.
@@mckawesome777 got a 1000w psu bro
I did this on my 13900k but i get lower results on cinebench r23 and my cpu is 100 degrees, when i put auto vcore the temps drops a lot but my cinebench score dropped 50% idw what to do
Hey thanks so much for this video brother didn’t even see the first setting option haha. Coming from 3770k on gig board now 13600kf got it under 141w and 80f at the 5.1 stock turbo boost and setup my fan and pump curves and everything seems golden! Did a 1h on prime 95 small fft
Glad I could help! Consider subscribing to the channel to support me :)
I have a 13600 too. Did you just follow his advice word for word, or did you need to deviate at all? I am not sure what 1h or 95 small fft is
87.476 Biscuits. Less than mine which means i should be able to get close to your performance benefits. I'm curious, now.
Would be curious to see an update video for best settings with the new 0x129 bios updates. using this technique my undervolt no longer seems stable and with the intel default settings the cpu is running hotter than before.
Yes please. I would like to see the results as well. New update has screwed things up for me.
Hello, how are you? I did the exact same steps as you, but there is a problem. Nothing changed in temperature with the i9 14900kf. Why? To the point that I lowered the voltage to minus 0.300 and nothing changed, my motherboard is a Gigabyte B760 Gaming
-0.3 can’t work. You’re changing the wrong voltage or have UVP unabled or you need to update the bios!
@@ImWateringPSUs Hello brother, I am sorry I did not pay attention to the message. Thank you for responding and trying to help me. I did the exact same steps that you did, but to no avail. Is my motherboard locked? Or does it need to update the BIOS, especially since I have had it since generation 12?
Hello buddy, firstly let me tell what an amazing video on this subject and a great informative channel overall this is! I wish you a good luck with your channel... 👍 Secondly, let me ask you a question - I have a 13700K with Z790 Aero G motherboard. Before seing your video from the information I gathered so far I managed to UV my CPU simply by ONLY changing ONE parameter in the BIOS, the Dynamic Vcore(DVID) to -0,080V. It dropped my max. temp on Cinebench R23 (with Arctic 360 AIO) from 95 to 82°C and gained about 1700 points more in the multicore test. The system seems stable. After watching your video my question is - are the additional steps that you do here necessary and if so can you please briefly explain why (on each parameter you change)? I am sorry to bother you this way, there are MANY different discussions on how to make a basic UV on the 13th gen CPUs and me being a novice in this field not sure what to believe. I just want to make a decent UV for a general work, gaming and occasionally some rendering without being afraid of damaging my CPU. Hope you understand. Thank you in advance and good luck buddy! PS: you've got a new sub here 🙂
First of all, thanks a lot! If your goal is strictly lower temperature, then I'd say you're pretty much set. You might wanna disable your e-cores but that's very, VERY workload dependant. If you want more performance then yes, I would recommend the other steps as we're basically allowing the CPU to boost higher and longer!
@@ImWateringPSUs Thanks a lot buddy, that is exactly I needed to hear... 👍
Thank you it works perfect. ❤
You will get much bigger improvements by tuning your ram
I am actually working on a RAM Overclocking & Timing tuning video right now, I personally think the best way to run it is Undervolted AND with tuned RAM!
@@ImWateringPSUs Yep! That's what I've done to my 13600K. Massive improvements in temps/power and noticeable improvements in gaming performance! Please show AIDA64 before and after tuning 🙏. Thanks 😊
@@od1sseas663 Will do! Thanks again for the input :)
I’m very interested in this! Thanks for this video also, trying it out tomorrow :D
the whole point of xmp is so you don't have to tune it yourself
Thanks for the guide, set mine to -0.09 and it's running stable with -1% Cinebench score.
I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to write this! :)
cinebench should go up not down
I followed the first set and my pc immediately blue screened. “Irql not less or equal”
Thanks man i just put the offset to-.075v and now my 13900kf runs at 67c under full load with an 240AIO at pl1 125watt pl2 250watt
I'm REALLY happy it was helpful, I do think these CPUs are set with way too much voltage out of the box so I'm glad you Undervolted it! Also great settings on the PLs
i keep crashing in games idk if its the undervolt
I have new settings which I am using for my i9-13900k and i9-14900k. I don’t like the uncertainty of undervolting so prefer working with power and clock limits. With these settings I got a couple of FPS BETTER on CP2077 and Forza Horizon Benchmark, went from 99th to 98th percentile on PC Mark Extended, passed the Time Spy Stress Test, Time Spy was within a whisker of the average for my hardware, Cinebench R23 finished between 37-38000, CPU-Z, Intel Diag tool and Prime95 was stable and < 90 degrees.
MCE off, PL1 and PL2 limit to 225, limit P-core boost to 5.3 GHz and E-core boost to 4.0GHz, and use balanced power profile in Windows (although I do disable core parking to keep system highly responsive). Oh and just XMP on the RAM. I didn’t change voltage offset or LLC values.
With these settings, you should have no stability issues, be able to run on an air cooler like the NH-D15 (what I use on my 3 i9 13th/14th gen systems) and will barely notice any performance changes in gaming or productivity.
This guide almost bricked my PC on an aorus z790. Thanks
You can’t brick a PC via an unstable undervolt, worst case you got a crash but I explain how to set it even for the unluckiest CPUs out there
Simple and it worked with my 13900KS. Cinebench 40720 (No overclock), (undervolt - 90) max temp 86c. Aorus Master Z790 and a 360 AIO.
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Update: I managed to further lower the offset voltage to -175 by changing the load line to medium. This gives me a lower temperature at anything other than full load. So now instead of seeing 1.32 volts at low and low moderate load I'm seeing 1.2 or less. Max voltage at anytime under any circumstances is 1.28 volts.
It really pays of to lower the voltage of this CPU. I kept lowering the offset voltage until I started seeing instability which was -200, I changed it back to -175 and then adjusted the loadline to a setting that gave me mid 90's under full load @ 5.5K. which meant reducing the loadline from Turbo to medium.
Now at a room temp of 73.4 degrees F I get high 20's C @ idle....These additional changes were in addition to the first method listed in this video.
Thanks , would you recommend this for the 14900k as well ?
I do have a dedicated tutorial for the i9 14900K that came out today! Lucky day for you :)
Performance drop first option?
Why disable ecores? There’s plenty of videos showing they actually improve gaming performance, since they offload background tasks and DPC interrupts.
It really depends on the game and usecase, however by disabling them the P-Cores are gonna sustain a higher turbo boost and that offsets the background tasks by quite a bit if you have a properly set OS!
i follow your instructions but no temperature change i9 13900KF and msi Z790 . try 0,075 and 0,100 but in Prime 95 nothing change.
Whats the point of buying a 24-core cpu if youre going to disable 16 of them?
Well that’s a good point, but that’s why there are many options to choose from when tuning! I’d really only recommend disabling the e-cores if you’re strictly doing intensive gaming, competitive possibly!
Running an i9 13900K on 5.5ghz p-cores and 4.4 e-cores will never run on -0.75 let alone -1.00
Put another video you running cinebench with these undervolts.
Rather amazing to have you comment on my video! I think you’re the biggest channel to ever watch them ahaha. -0.075V will work for 99% of chips, but the premises is that you need to have a very good motherboard and PSU to run this effectively. UV very much is based on having better hardware than the minimum intended specs. -0.1V will require a lucky CPU!
Z690 aorus master so good
@@ImWateringPSUs Would like to just say I had an undervolt of -0.065 on my i9 13900k following this video, and this caused problems launching Unreal Engine 5 games with the "out of video memory" error unless I lowered my performance clock ratio speed to 55 or less. Turns out the undervolt was unstable at the higher clock speeds, so @MERPTV is correct in what they are saying. You are not going to be able to run certain tasks that make your CPU boost, like compiling shaders etc which is what UE5 games do.
It's better to just follow the intel's recommended power and current limit, PL1 and PL2 = 253w and current limit 307a. Motherboards auto settings use way too much power than these chips need which is what makes them run so hot. Turning off Multicore Enhancements is advised, also.
Power limits ?
Solid video. Came here for a quick sanity check after reading some reddit comments on undervolting. I game, but my primary use-case is content creation in Blender, so mostly wanted stability and better all-core thermals. I ended up disabling ASUS Multicore Enhancement, leaving everything else on auto, and doing a -0.1v core voltage offset. Went up nearly 3,000 points in Cinebench, and temps are ~10c lower. Happy with the results. Compared to how much trouble I had getting my 4x16GB DDR5 to run stable at XMP speeds, this was a cakewalk. Wish I had done it sooner.
Great settings, definitely worth it! Glad my vid could be useful :)
hi, what processor do you have? what was the temperature and what is it now in the blender? Thank you.
Thank you for guide!
It’s my pleasure to be helpful! :)
Do you have power limits enabled?
Yes but you can play around with them depending on your cooling. Check out my new i9 14900K undervolting video, it's more in-depth
My bios looked nothing like this, it was basically a different language. The things you said to look for didn't show up, can't find anything that looks like internal core offset. The only thing I found was turning the e cores off.
Still recomend i9 13900k for gaming? or ryzen 9 7900x3d better?
Personally, tuned vs tuned, I still prefer the 13900K!
@@ImWateringPSUs thx mate last night i bought a new pc,i9 13900kf,aorus z790,good corsair capellix 360 + 4 case fans,msi 4090 suprim,and 32 ram corsair 6000mh will go fine on the future!!!
can we overclock after undervolting the processor?
Excellent video! In case anybody would be interested, I just overclocked my 13700K - P-cores: 5,6 GHz, E-cores: 4,4 GHz, CPU Vcore: 1,400 V, idle (@20°C ambient): 38°C, Cinebench R23 max: 92°C. I run a Z790 Aero G motherboard and Arctic 360 AIO with CPU frame upgrade.
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Can I do this but not disable the E-Cores?
So I just did this 5mins ago, I run cod on all low settings pretty much and I did exactly what you did first from 0.75 and still hit 80° then I tried 0.100 and hit the same 80° mark
Can you show how to set intel default limits? I have the same
Motherboard with a 13700K
Thank you for this video. I followed some of the settings and set the voltage to -0.075 as suggested and selected Spec Enhance. Temps have dropped by 7 degrees and getting higher Cinebench R23 scores 😊
Cheers!
I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to write this! :)
@@ImWateringPSUs u need do that always with a 13909 no matter what mother board or cooling u have?
Hey, thanks for the info. I'm really bad at this so I have a question if you don't mind: What's the difference between lowering the voltage and setting the watts to max 90W (which is what I did)
With this, temperatures are ok as well so I was just wondering what is better. Thanks!
No worries man, we're here to learn! If you power limit it via setting a fixed wattage you lose much more performance, via undervolting you do get the performance back but need to find stability!
I always undervolt my CPUs. The mobos need to have a default voltage that will work with any CPU but it's usually a worst case scenario. So you need to lower it to the minimum viable voltage for your specific SN CPU.
Exactly! Very well said😇
I have a 13700k and I undervolted my vcore to -0.101 and my PC crashed under gaming.
Thanks for your video. I will try the -0.075 setting.
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it worked with -0.075? I have the same cpu
I would love to see you do a undervolt video for the 13600k on a gigabyte board. Having som troubles, so your guide would be a bliss
I’ll try to get it done asap!
I finally got my pc setup with a 13900KS and after 2 days of being guided thru getting 7200mhz ram stable, i tried to follow this. I set 5.6ghz sync all cores, Asus MCE Remove All Limits - 90c, LLC 2 and LLC 5 (i cant remember what the LLC 2 was but its LLC. 5 is the main one) and left it Auto voltage with a -0.05v offset & PL1/2 on auto or unlimited.
It will, rarely Clock Watchdog bsod in Y Cruncher 2.5b with this. -0.075v offset wont even start (but wont crash). VST will fail every now and then as well, but the ram is okay bcs it passes 12 cycles tm5 usmus.
I guess pushing the super fast ram is restricting how much room the cpu has to play with? At -0.05v 5.6ghz it still pulls 300w in CBR23. Im worried about degradation. If i limit to 253w, CB doesnt start.
But you seem to be running the same RAM as me, corsair 7200mhz c34. I guess its because you disabled e-cores?
Yes, RAM speed definitely plays a role in how much you can push the CPU. Remember that silicon is never the same too! I'd settle with -0.0625 or -0.05
Ran these and got boot failure says do to incorrect config
Tried the Undervolt with -0.075 but then i saw some WHEA CPU Errors in HWiNFO. After i made it back to stock, the errors where gone. So sadly not worked on my 13900K
Set it to -0.050, it will work :)
@@ImWateringPSUs I will try and test it. Also set my PL1 to 125W and PL2 to 253 just to be sure it does not peak up to 350W.
Hi, I went from -0.075 till 0 and it never work, it was always crashing, why is that?
you recommend shutting off. "Enhanced mulitcore performance"? Alot of people online has been saying it causes crashing.
If you want maximum performance you need to keep it on. But if you’re only after temperature, yes turn it off immediately
Great video...can't wait for your video for 13700k...did everything from the video on my 13700k and the ideal temp dropped from 39C to 36C... but when I start any stress program several cores immediately jump to 100C...I have the same motherboard z790 Creator G... like i said: can't wait for the video for 13700k 😉
Will sure to make it asap! :)
still waiting for the undervolt for a i7 13700k if possible on a gigabyte mobo
I'll try to get it out asap, getting a 13700K for a decent price is really hard in Italy lol
Thanks for the item of advice. My i9-13900KF runs at the same 42 in idle now, but the peak temperature under load dropped by 12 degrees (from 100 to 88).
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3:24 internal cpu vcore offset what does it called in msi mpg edge z790 ddr5 mobo?
Thank you for your video! I would ask, from your two method: which method will a less power consumption?
Glad it was helpful! The static one will provide the absolute lowest temps & power consumption
Great video! Do you think that could work with a Asus Rog Maximus Hero + I9 14900k?
Thanks a lot! Yes it’s gonna work :)
The 13900K and 14900K are essentially the same!
@@ImWateringPSUs Thank you! I'm gonna try that as soon as they arrive to me! =)
Doesn't seem to work on asus z-790p motherboard
Hey bro next undervolt video you do make sure you include some quick footage of OCCT Linepack Prime95 tests because stability is what everyone really want. That's the essential part always missing from your videos.
I do include stability tests in the “Build Videos” associated with every undervolting tutorial
13900k with contact frame n kryonaut thermal paste on a z790 aorus elite ax ddr5 -0.075 does not work cinebench r23 fails i have to set it 0.045 ran cinebench r23 for 30mins stable max temp was 87c
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I have asus rog strix z790-f and it’s different ugh so I’m not quite sure how to do it..
Could you help me out?
The names are a bit different but the procedure really is the same, I actually have some extra videos on the channel with Asus boards (but different CPUs) so by crossreferencing them you should be able to set everything up properly :)
@@ImWateringPSUs thanks, i will take a look.
Disabling e cores bottlenecked my 4090. So kept those enabled. Underclocked my cpu to 5.7 with your -0.075 offset. Temps stay below 100c
I bought the 14900k and the aio really annoys me of how loud it is.. Can I use the same settings you showed here in the video for the 14900k?
Yessir you can! But I also have a dedicated i9 14900K video :)
@@ImWateringPSUs i have a gigabyte mobo like this video the 14900k video has a diff mobo so it really confuses me >~
You need to put 14th gen asrock mobos out
Hey man, first of all nice content, keep up the good work. I try this method for my i9 13900K but i have a black screen at start up and nothing happens. Do you suggest to use -0.050 to see what happens. Also the XMP1 option is necessary for this to work? Thank you in advance!
I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to leave some feedback! :) I’ve also got a few build videos on the channel and more coming, if you like the content consider subscribing as it really helps the channel! Yes do try -0.05 and no, the XMP is not needed
13900k with contact frame n kryonaut thermal paste on a z790 aorus elite ax ddr5 -0.075 does not work cinebench r23 fails i have to set it 0.045 ran cinebench r23 for 30mins stable max temp was 87c
0.075 will NOT work on most PC... (unless you bring down the speed of the CPU). Now, some people might hit the silicon lottery and get -0.075 to stablize, but most will not.
I found your tutorial and I would love to try it out on my NZXT N7 Z790 Motherboard - however the settings are so different I got scared no backed out :) Any chance you could make some updated instructions for this particular motherboard/BIOS? Thank you!
Unfortunately I don’t have a N7 Z790, but if you wanna DM me I can do it one on one for you!
I'm using 13900. I can't manually adjust the settings you show. I can only put it in auto mode to lower the voltage. And yes, there was a significant temperature drop, but I lost a little bit of fps.
I need to get out a tutorial for the non-K variants asap. Stay tuned, I will do it
Thanks man, could you maybe also do a i5-13600k version?
I’ll definitely do one, just need to get a 13600K on hands and I’ll film it!
@@ImWateringPSUs thanks bro! Maybe you could also show the differences in temps?
Any chance of getting your hands on a 13600K? Wondering if I can use this video to undervolt my 13600k @@ImWateringPSUs
Should I update my bios first? I'm on F2 (which doesn't even have perfdrive) and the latest is F11d.
Also, you talk about picking a perfdrive option based on cooling, I have a fan cooler, so I would pick Spec Enhance right?
yes. And get it preferably to F9
@@kokobil why's that? I already updated to the latest, F11d, and it's fine
@@Revalopod Cause F111b is a beta and i didn't want to recomend you a beta version and also someone had said some place i don't remember now where exactly that the F9 was the version with the fastest benchmaeks (and also has the newer UI introduced with F8 of course) But if you installed the f11b and works fine i guess you are fine then. And i have no idea how better those F9 benchmarks were anyway. . Probably not noticable at the big picture,
@@kokobil ok thank you :)
I have a 420mm Corsair AIO and it still runs warm. I managed to tweak it a few months ago and am able to keep it in the 58-67 degree range. I have a 240 aio before this one on my 12900k. It’s insane how much hotter the 13900k is. I also put a contact frame on it. TURN OFF ENHANCED TURBO also. Shit burns your cpu up
That's just facts. Power draw and temps are off the charts compared to 12th and out of the box the 13900K is pushed way too far beyond its limits imho. They fixed most of the contact issues but a contact frame is never a bad idea too! Thanks a lot for commenting and for the extra data!
By enhanced turbo. Are you referring to the thermal velocity boost?
Hi could you undervolt the i7-13700k?
I’ll definitely do a tutorial for it too!
What would be CPU's LLC profile? Did you leave them in auto?
Yes, with this config auto works fine. You can also set level 3 for better stability
My bios doesnt let me use the minus symbol...
If you have a msi board you need to change the CPU core voltage mode to offset and then it gives you a offset mode where you can go plus or minus.
Exactly!
Thanks for the quick tutorial! I was debating myself about should I get 13900K. I’m on 12700K. I dunno because Arrow Lake is Q2-Q3 2024 away. And I’m on a long term so….what’s your opinion on 13900K?
Hey there, first of all thanks a lot for the support! I think it really depends on your usecase scenario: for gaming, unless you're running a 4090 at 1080p, it's useless. On the other side, if you work with your PC, then the multicore increase from a 12700K to a 13900K would be significant, so it could be worth the money! I think the 13900K is a great chip and that 13th gen in general goes FAST, it definitely is power hungry and a pretty high temp chip though!
Internal CPU Vcore Offset only aviable when CPU Vcore is set to "normal" any you left it on "auto"
That's motherboard dependant, but yes!
Hi, can you also make one for 13700k if possible ? Great video
Hi there, first of all thanks a lot for the support! I’ll definitely make a dedicated one for the 13700K!
@@ImWateringPSUs I would like this as well, please!
disable "Turbo boost techonlogy" also helps a lot and after using the first method it feels even more stable.
my temperatures weren´t too high but they could go from 50 to 75 very suddenly and I didn´t like that... and with this setting, playing, for example, horizon forbidden west in Ultra settings, the max temp I got was 56 with
Thank you :)
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I cant find These setting on my asus Mainboard
same!
What is a safe daily voltage for 13th gen? My only experience is devils canyon, and i run 4.7ghz @ 1.275v (not sure if totally stable, i can browse and do things and even play modded minecraft for weeks but 1.27v kept bsod in Apex) or 4.6 @ 1.25v (new testing) ... anyway, and 1.35v+ for a daily on these was a terrible idea. But on 13th gen looking at STOCK! I see 1.4v+!
I dont really understand how offset works or if fixed manual is better,, but what would be a safe daily voltage? 1.35v max?
Sooo, the 1.35V+ voltage you see is actually for light loads where only a few cores are working. I'd really recommend staying at around 1.25/1.275V effective voltage for day to day use, while keeping the temps in check, especially if you're running heavy AVX workloads!
Which chip are you using? The 13600k undervolts really well at stock core ratios. I got -100mv, 5.1 all p core, 4.0 all ecore & 47 ring stable 2 hours prime95.
@@ImWateringPSUs oh you can control when and how much voltage the chip gets now rather than just "this is the voltage it will use in all situations to achieve the clock"?
Like in cinebench it will recognize the load is enormous and not aim for, say, 6ghz @ 1.45v, and instead drop to 1.35v @ 5.7 - but when you're gaming and the demand is not high, it'll throw 1.45 to achieve the 6ghz? definitely sounds like a lot more time in the BIOS and endless tweaking than before, though it is cool to see the tech go that way - i'd still feel uncomfortable seeing my cpu being given above 1.4v...
i hope there will be 'true' per core overclocking one day (maybe there is already), where you can work on 1 core at a time with separate voltages per core to know exactly the limits. So you could have a system running all the time at 6, 6, 6, 59, 57, 58, 55, 55, 56, etc varying cores with all different voltages.
Can you please do one for the 13600k? Because more people own the 13600k as it is more affordable...
Hey man, I absolutely need to do one! I gotta buy a 13600K but will do it asap!
Really useful! Thanks! 2 things: You did not show Load Line Calibration - which is supposed to be important for undervolting. Voltage will drop under high loads and it can go low enough to make the system unstable. LLC helps with that and should let you put in more offset for overall lower stable voltage. ALSO - you put your hands in front of the screen a lot. Often you block things that are important to read. I had to skip back and forth so I could see the whole voltage setting line, but for a couple of them, you never moved your hands out of the way.
Thanks a lot for the support and for the constructive criticism, I’m trying to improve day by day and will treasure the advice!
Be careful with UV, my cpu can work with UV -0.1v. or even more BUT in certain software I have blue screen (for example: coding video files, StaxRip, FastFlix, Topaz).
Yes, I really do recommend a safer -0.075
I’m on a Msi motherboard I see offset, adaptive, adaptive+offset which should I choose I’m pretty confused
Offset!
@@ImWateringPSUsI chose adaptive+offset by mistake, I’ll change it now… what’s the difference if you don’t mind me asking?
@@ImWateringPSUsin offset mode when I go to cpu core voltage offset mode I see + (by pwm)… - (by pwm)… + (by cpu)… - (by cpu)… which should I choose
@@Thronessjahebebnz for MSI, it looks like adaptive+offset allows for the type of setting @ImWateringPSUs describes (a negative 0.075 offset). Edit: here is his video using a Z690 MSI bios th-cam.com/video/UE8Ce2fbYfc/w-d-xo.html
Why are you running 7200 DDR5 on a i9 13900k? The i9 13900k is tested to be safe at no more than 5600mhz ram speed DDR5. Surely that's unstable?
It’s 100% stable! It’s just a matter of getting a good RAM kit, ofc it’s “overclocked” RAM :)
@@ImWateringPSUs Wow, nice one then. I think it also depends on your motherboard.
Great content! I did the tweaks suggested by you, thing is my PC now keeps crashing on every game I launch everytime, I even changed internal CPU Vcore offset back to its original value all to no avail 😢 I suspect the issue might be the 4 16gb memory sticks at 6k frequency, or maybe this video is not intended for i7 owners? Ps: I too own a Z790 Aero G
Try disabling the XMP temporarily and if that’s the issue settle on 5200Mhz
Thanks again dude! That tip was very useful! No more game crashing and the system has finally stabilized, temps lowered from 75-80c to 60-65c! I was wondering though if fine tuning with Intel XTU would it lower temps even further?
Hey, I’m not able to get anything stable about 0.015 on an MSI Z790 Edge. Is there anything obvious I could be doing wrong? Everything apart from XMP is default. Cinibench wont run longer than 2 mins and temps are still relatively high at about ~ 320 W
I'd say you need to disable the auto-overclocking / cooling tuning options!
im streaming games Can't I just turn off the e cores? Isn't it enough if I just undervolt?
If you are streaming you are probably using your GPU not CPU so safe to disable E-core. E-cores is only useful if you are using x264 encoding, photoshop, video editing and other heavy tasks based. Gaming and streaming using only P-core is fine.
any loss in gaming performance by undervolting it if so by how much?
No loss at all! Depending on the setting you can actually gain performance :)
I did this and all was perfect but now I’m getting random crashes? Any suggestions
The offset is a little too much for your CPU. If you put 0.075, put 0.05
Hello, I had a problem with the first method while using the AI enhanced core option in my BIOS settings - Blue Screen and complete PC crash. I found that disabling the AI enhanced cores option from the BIOS fixed this. Does this mean both options are incompatible simultaneously or do I need to do less undervolting? Help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Yup, the options are unfortunately incompatible. You might be able to get away with a tiny undervolt though
@@ImWateringPSUs Thanks for your reply. I tried from -1 to -0'5 but it was unstable even at -0'5, so I reset factory settings and enabled the 90 degrees protection in the BIOS. Since the last BIOS update I rarely see anything above 85 degrees, even with the protection disabled. But of course, I only use my PC for gaming.
And please dont disable the e-cores.
It really depends on what you’re gonna do with it, many people also reported an improvement in latency by disabling the e-cores!
Impossible to follow this guide if you’re on Asus motherboard, the names and options are so different, just impossible