Thanks, bro. I was frustrated trying to figure out my constant crash while playing games. After replacing RAM and Cooler and still crashing, this was the solution. Stay blessed.
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Works perfect. -0.05 volt and about same cinebench score with 8-10 reduced temp. Cinebench temp is around 87-88c. Gaming temp @4k monitor 70-75c. To all ppl who dont know how it works with oc/undervolt do some research before following some guide , there is loads of how to guides out there.
Just set LP1 and LP2 at 253W and offset at -0.50 I would suggest trying to set LP1 and LP2 at 220W and offset at -0.100. Why? Because the efficiency curve is getting almost flat above 220W so there is almost zero loss here.
14900k (box) working perfect -0.100 undervolting👌 I'm also undervolted my GPU sapphire nitro+ 7900 xtx 24gb -10% in AMD adrenaline app. i get ultra high settings on 3440x1440, which is 34" dell Alienware QD OELD monitor the Avg. fps 155 on BF2042 i also disabled E-cores and disabled turbo boost and Turbo boost 3.0 on MSI motherboard in bios. And temps on my 14900k cpu 40c in bf2042 game, and on my gpu 7900 xtx 24gb temps around 50-55c PS: i want to add one more important things! When i disable my turbo boost and the tb 3.0 on msi bios, yes i get cpu 14900k max temps 45c in bf2042, but.. my ping rise from 64ms jump sometimes to 75ms and sometimes i get a little lags (the connection lag mean) in game. and if i do enable my turbo boost and 3.0 in bios, i get temps 55-72c on 14900k in bf2042, more fps and less delay on my ping (connection)! It is stable 57ms and no lags at all! I think it is very important information!
Just rewatched your video again as I actually switched to Intel after my Gigabyte X670E motherboard slowly died and then never powered on again. This simple explanation was perfect for me as I noticed the temperatures in Cinebench went straight to 100C on my new 14900K on some cores, even with a custom loop and Intel power limits used. This is keeping me under 90C now which is superb. I just got done testing slowly with benchmark software and a few games and I got it 'stable' currently at -0.0900v adaptive offset voltage. I tried -0.1000v and it passed benchmarks with higher scores but then Alan Wake 2 crashed to desktop and gave loads of WHEA errors. So I backed it off to -0.0900v and will see how we go from there! Can't thank you enough for this easy to understand video. I have done this sort of thing before, but it has been a while since I used an Intel motherboard and your guide really helped to simply explain things. What a guy!
I’m REALLY happy the vid was helpful! Thanks a lot for sticking around, I see your comments a lot on the channel :) Great results as well, -0.09V stable means you’ve got a very good sample there!
I have an i9-13900, this helped solve all my crashes and no more 99 degrees while gaming. itll hover around 80 and peak at 90 not sure if thats still bad but better than 99 constantly. I also have an AIO
If you can I’d get a bigger AIO or put fans on both sides of the radiator and make sure pump is running at 100% during gaming. I got a i9-14900k, 420mm AIO with 6 140mm fans and it’s never gone above mid 40C playing at 4k max settings.
@@crimpsoncomment Anything under 80C is good so i think im good. only way to get it cooler would be custom loop/direct die cooler. Also I gave it a higher OC and turned my pump up. hasnt gone over 39C yet. What temps you running tho?
I just undervolted mine... -0.800 working perfecto.... doesn't go higher than 90c and is working even faster now. But I mean, it doesn't go above 90c even during heavy 3D simulations! fluids and rendering. that's hardcore.
Hi. I am purchasing parts right now for my son's Christmas gift. I purchased a 14900k processor and was looking at the MSI Z790 Carbon Max WIFI II logic board. With these components what would you suggest as a good option for memory and for the cooling especially? Is purchasing the faster 7200mhz memory worth doing or should I just stick with 6000mhz? I am looking for cost effective options but not necessarily the cheapest. Thank you for the assistance.
Just bought a 14900k, getting about 74c to 78c just with game mode on my MSI Edge motherboard and Lian Li Galahad 2 LCD, hoping to get a decent under clock on it. Must say doesnt feel much faster than my 13600k :(
The thing is bloody terrifying lol. Games like Tarkov hit around 65 C max but Cyberpunk etc will see flashes up to the 70s. Tried MS flight SIM and even seen 80 at one point. Hoping thats okay...
My MB is MSI as well and the bios does not have the last few options the CPU core stuff. So all I was able to change was the water cooler to towr cooler and disabled the boost.
For 13th and 14th gen its even easier. All the user needs to do is 1) initially set a sync all core to whatever their default is, ie 5.6 for 13900ks. Set your appropriate DC_LL as per LLC level, ie. On Asus LLC4 this is DC 0.98-1.02 depending on board. This makes VID match Vcore. Then you set ACLL to a lower number. For this example, 0.20 is the start. Then you run R23 or TLOU shader compiling. If it crashes, raise. If it doesnt, lower. Repeat. Theres your undervolting. After finished, revert back to normal core behaviour and run Geekbench 6. If it crashes, raise V/F 10 voltage as its not crashing at full load voltage and is instead crashing at the higher frequency boosts. This gives you significantly greater control over every step of frequency, and only involves touching 1 knob, or 2 if you want high frequency light load boosts.
You are joking, right? 288W for P1 or P2 power limits is way too high. The Intel Spec defines 253W here for the i9-14900K. Never ever let this open. You should also easily can get a -0.125V offset with an i9-14900K if you do not do the BS you did before setting the voltage..
Curious, is it necessary to disable the Turbo Boost? Also there's a Turbo Boost Max 3.0 setting I see in my BIOS (gigabyte z790). Or just set it Turbo Boost to Enabled and Power to Intel POR?
Actually, he was spot on. Setting the P1 to 253w and undervolting to -0.100 is performing exceptionally well. I experimented with disabling the Turbo Boost, but it didn't yield significant improvements, so I re-enabled it. Yeah.@@mugensekai
@@sezzcei did a all core set at 4.3 and still hit temps between 89-100c pcore with turbo disabled. Set it to auto with turbo enabled and got 5.7ghz on pcore and 4.3ghz on ecore while hitting same temps. 78-92c on pcore and 84-89c on ecore. Offset voltage was 0.3. That was the lowest it allowed me to go.
Thanks for the video. I have the same MSI BIOS and a 14900K. I am confused about something. I am able to change to "Tower Air Cooler" and I disabled "Enhanced Turbo". Is that all I need to do? Thanks again for the great video
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@@ImWateringPSUs My motherboard does not have the "enhanced turbo" option. MAG B760 Mortar WiFi II. I found that I had to disabled UVP to be able to apply undervolt but I did the rest of the steps. I hope that's sufficient.
In a post 0x12B Intel microcode release world, should we still look into undervolting? It seems as all Overclocking guides and info for maximizing performance on the 14th gen CPU's came out BEFORE all the Bios updates were made and now I am not sure if they are still valid or not.
This was very handy. Got temps on a NH-D15 from pegged at 100C (BIOS default) to sitting in the low 80's w/ 5.2Ghz all cores running Cinebench. That's a lot more reasonable. Why MSI assumes water cooling as default is crazy. I can imagine people just plugging one in and leaving it at default settings, never checking temps will be complaining about their chips failing at some point. Big honking tower coolers can totally handle it if you undervolt a little. Honestly pretty impressed. The thing can scream on single core tasks and run 5.8Ghz all day never breaking 60C. I would take it higher but it has to be 100% stable as it's a workstation and not a gaming PC. Actually, after running some more tests, the chip is performing better than it was without the undervolt. More stable clocks not dipping occasionally to 5.0Ghz as it was before.
Quick, straight. However i would say is, maybe use XTU as well, since that allows pretty much the exact control. The main things your after is PL1/PL2 control and Undervolt offset.
@@ImWateringPSUs It's actually a good idea to use XTU as your starting point to dial in your settings for stability, then simply uninstall the software and apply those settings in the BIOS. Running XTU while benchmarking is a worst case sceneario on performance. Which means you should be able to find a 100% stable setting with it, then be slightly more aggressive in the BIOS, and if you can't get stability while doing that, just go back to the settings you found with XTU.
Selecting the tower cooler is just a shortcut to selecting Intel's recommended power limits, it's a matter of preference whether you want lower performance but better temps or vice versa. If you have anything less than a 360mm radiator, I would go with tower cooler for sure...
He fucked up my pc too, luckily I took a photo of the my previous settings so I can go back to them, SADLY when I went to them the temps range 80-100°c when throttling
@@ACTIVlS.1 you clearly did something wrong mate, or you used too much voltage offset for your cpu. This is much better than stock settings. Just try -0.050v, set power to box cooler (253w) you can't go wrong
@@ACTIVlS.1 main thing to fix temps is just put the p1,p2 power at stock which is 253w (its called box cooler in bios like he shows) that will fix a lot and then try a small offset like he does in the video. -0.050 like he says is fine for ANY 14900k
Be sure you’re running the latest bios, but also check in my playlists because I do the same things on Asus bios, so by crossreferencing two videos you’ll be able to do it
Very good question. If you want absolutely peak performance and snappiness, disable them. If you want better power consumption, efficiency etc: leave them enabled
You’re the man. Prior to this video I had set my power limits to 253 with 307 amps. It’s still like that with the above settings set and it’s much cooler with similar performance. Should I set the limits back to stock ?
THANKS for this.. same MB I was using for my 14900KS and undervolting DID NOT stablize the chip. BUT WHat I did wa change from 4096 to 3860W with the Artic Freezer and now I am stable. SO TL;DR if you are running an Artic Freezer on a 14900KS.. know its better than most cooling options but on the 14900KS it is still not enough.
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I have 14900k but with intel turbo boost and max technology 3.0 enable all games crash with this error 0xc0000005, If I disable it all game go smoothly and no crashes, Another thing is I cant join to a transmission in disscord if I do discord just close...
This helped my temps by like 15° on cinebench lol. It scored higher as well. Something that I am noticing is that it's still not going over 5ghz. Is that something that I could possibly tell it to do now that I've got the temps and throttling under control?
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When I do this, when I turn on Cinebench my CPU spikes to 90C instantly. Is it the voltage CPU core offset? I have an Artic II 420 AIO also and I used tower settings still.
Try to play with amperage of your motherboard. I've noticed that if I reduce the amperage by about 300A (set box cooler in bios) the CPU works more stable.
@@ImWateringPSUsIt's in advanced mode, of course. But my Mobo is MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI, maybe they are different somehow. Strange, all other options are the same.
Question: After doing the undervolting as you have shown, I now can't run Cinebench, it just hangs. Should I be worried about games freezing? It's a new build so I haven't had a chance to try out any games yet. Great video BTW. Subbed.
This didn't work for me, however the video did help me eventually find the right settings to successfuly undervolt. DON'T DO ALL THE STEPS. Doing all the steps made my games crash on startup. The only steps I did was bump my cooling system down to box (253 volts), and then undervolt with offset by 0.100. This let me run cyberpunk in ultra settings at 70c. Before I did these settings, I was hitting 100c consistently. I'll update this post if I run into any problems. Edit: cinebench is stable with temps hovering between 85-93 with a few cores spiking to 96-98. Will be testing -0.125. Edit 2: -0.125 was causing crashes. System is now stable at -0.110 with temps not reaching 90 during Cinebench. XMP enabled successfully.
Yeh I agree turning off the setting in the bios made all my apps crash on startup even before undervolting. Just changing the 253volts and undervolting -1.05 for me made me go from 90-100c on games to 65-80c
@@RnG_Ry So for me this did not help, i have the i9-14900KF, what I ended up doing was reverting bios to default, undervolting all the way up to -0.105V , 54x core ratio performance, and 42x efficient core on intel ETU. You have to tweak the undervolt between .005 intervals till you find one you don't crash on at all. for me -0.105 was perfect and ever since I have been at like 30 idle, 40-50 wile working with tons of apps open, and 60-70 while gaming on games like Rust with max settings/WoW/Cs2. no issues anymore, 0 crashes since for 3 days. When i changed the stuff he did in this video though i crashed like crazzzzy even with no undervolt and then when undervolting it got even worse.
@@iNT3NS3CLUTCH worddd. Thanks for the reply man. I didn’t want to change anything because I’m actually not experiencing any crashing or anything like that. Just temp spikes from 30 degrees to 50 degrees at idle. So I was looking to see if I could possibly undervolt to stop the temp spikes but after all this, I’m not even going to touch my bios settings LMAO. i9-14900K MSI Z790 A Pro Max Wifi 4080 Super No issues with crashing Just temp spikes Nothing too bad
Turns out mine was at 125w, Running an i9 14900, 64GB, RTX 4090... I after 12 hours of trial and error realized the difference between my laptop with almost the same specs and my ROG Ally X is that they are both running (Win 11). So, I upgraded and now my powerhouse liguid cooled is running great. I keep it at (zero ray tracing and high graphics with XESS) 12 hours later.. install, reinstall, file validation, try different SSD's, run as admin, run in win 8...NOPE (WIN 11)
If you crossreference the points in this vid with the "How to undervolt a 13th gen CPU" which is in my undervolting playlist, you should be able to follow the vid because that has an MSI motherboard!
This great, I have subbed because we also share the same mobo and bios. Thank you. P.s., do you have any recommendations for fan curves/settings and could you make a video on it for this build? Thanks man.
mine doesnt go over 90c but at some piont freez with games and crushed somehow so is it gonna work for me or no ? note i used cinebench and its the same one i start testing on r24 its going to freeze immedetly and crash same way with r23 my cpu 14900k
hello everyone, please tell me, I tried to do undervolting, on an i7 14700kf, on an msi pro z790 a max WiFi motherboard, I initially set the offset -by cpu, -0.020, the computer hangs in the stress test, am I doing something wrong?, or Am I unlucky with the CPU? Please Help🙏🙏🙏🙏
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@@ImWateringPSUs from what I’ve read -0.120 is pretty standard for the 14900k’s. I haven’t tried anything lower than -0.130 but gaming and no crashes so far 🤷♂️
It's strange, but you can actually boost the speed of your processor by reducing the amount of wattage it takes. You need a good balance, so if the factory settings are set for max power draw to achieve high performance, it could have the opposite affect of limiting the speed of your processor.
The thing about RAM stability is false. It's not correlated. -0.06V is actually good, I'd say lower a bit the wattage limit of your CPU and you should be able to avoid throttling. Or consider disabling the e-cores :)
@@dzjoypad Just curious, but what did you set your long time watts limit at? I never touched the wattage limits for the ROG Strix Z790 running the 14900K in wifeys rig, and at -0.08 it is just chugging along at 85 C happy as a clam in BurnInTest. Off the cuff, I seem to recall that on ASUS ROG Strix Z790 boards the limit is set to something like 260'ish watts.
Very well explained. Thank you. I dont have much luck with my i9-14900k. Undervolting by - 0,05, 0,04 and 0,03 gave me random exceptions in CB23. 0,01 and 0,02 worked. Could it be that i'm that unlucky? Running on a MSI Z790 tomahawk wifi ddr5 with latest bios.
Nah u just have to find ur sweet spot ..I'm on a rog z790-e. Offset - adaptive , - .1 , 253 long, 300 short with my llc set to 4. ..cb23 40k. Temps capping at 87-90. Idle Temps are around 35 , while gaming 55 - 60
@@AB-80X Hey what do you all use to do these test, and what does Crash means? Just Cinebench, and cinebench crashes, or do I have to expect the system to give me a BSOD?
On my 13700k I just limited voltage to 1.2. never above 80c while under 100% load. On my old system I messed with an entire undervolt, but I didn't feel like tuning it and trying until it's stable. So 1.2v worked just fine for me. 😊
DUDE THIS IS AMAZING! My CPU benchmarks went up by like 10% and I’m consuming less power. The intel extreme tuning utility would crash my computer, whereas this just works.
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Meh. You can also just spend a bit extra and order a CPU from DerBauer with the "Pro" IHS mod. Temps drop significantly and you can push it much harder.
So what I'm not understanding is we're just taking the voltage out while the card is running stock? Or is there a way to boost the core speed higher than stock? With also under volting like I'm loosing so much performance just to keep this piece of shit low on temp I should have went with AMD
Intel CPUs are tuned quite aggressively, which often leads to thermal throttling. By undervolting, you can achieve higher sustained turbo speeds and better overall performance, assuming the chip is healthy. As mentioned in the video, a stable undervolt range typically falls between -0.05V to -0.1V (I personally achieved around -0.07V). Intel has already pushed clock speeds as far as possible with conventional cooling, but with extreme overclocking, these chips have become the fastest since Bulldozer, breaking GHz limits. For example, the 14900KS is the fastest CPU to date, reaching an impressive 9.12GHz, albeit with liquid helium cooling! Your points about AMD are completely valid, especially with the X3D chips, which offer excellent performance. As for my personal experience with the 13900 (even a non-K version), I found that undervolting not only improved performance but also resulted in lower temperatures- a win-win! If you have any of these power hungry Intel chips, I highly recommend experimenting with your BIOS to undervolt. I was able to achieve solid results on a H670 motherboard without any loss of turbo boost, allowing the CPU to sustain higher speeds for longer and deliver more performance.
Until he makes one, I have a 13700k that I tuned. Follow these same steps but don't mess with the boost duration stuff and for voltage mode use adaptive + offset. I got 54 ratio on p core and 43 in e cores. Voltage offset is 0.075 . I also have an MSI z790 and with latest bios I can now get 0.08 stable. Id say the 0.075 should be stable on all. If not go to 0.070 and dial it up by 0.001 til it crashes during a benchmark. It's a good little undervolt + overclock
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Bro, I support your channel but you really need to do more stability testing before saying you can undervolt these cpus this much. What program are you stress testing with? How bout Ycruncher or Prime? You really need to revisit these claims and back them up with stability tests. In other words you need to prove your advice is stable, just saying so isn't enough you know what I mean?
I do very in-depth stress tests to validate all my numbers. I test at least 3 different samples on 2 different motherboards and validate the average stability point, plus I ask people I know to run them for me. Generally for every undervolting video there is a PC build on the channel with that CPU in which I also run some stability testing on-screen. But really seeing a stress test that just “works” wouldn’t be good content to bring, so I stick to the tutorial!
Спасибо большое, мне помогло ваше видео 🤝 процессор 14900к Pl1,2 253w офсет -0.050 400А xmp 5600 bios не обновлял, стоит стоковый А0 вроде (мартовский) водянка arctic iii 360
I would recommend Cpu lite load mode 3 and core voltage offset -0.060 for 13600K and it works great. Max temp 69°C, max power draw 115 Wattage. Clock speeds are as they should be and work perfectly fine. Someone could try the same thing with the MSI motherboard with the 13/14700K and 13/14900K processors.
Thanks, bro. I was frustrated trying to figure out my constant crash while playing games. After replacing RAM and Cooler and still crashing, this was the solution. Stay blessed.
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Intel released a fix for crashes I got in many games. You should check your motherboard manufacturer for a bios update with Intel microcode 0x129
I'm having this issue now. About to change voltage myself
The video the world needed
Ahahaha my man!
Thanks this stopped my 14900k from going straight to 100c during tests
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Works perfect. -0.05 volt and about same cinebench score with 8-10 reduced temp.
Cinebench temp is around 87-88c.
Gaming temp @4k monitor 70-75c.
To all ppl who dont know how it works with oc/undervolt do some research before following some guide , there is loads of how to guides out there.
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Just set LP1 and LP2 at 253W and offset at -0.50
I would suggest trying to set LP1 and LP2 at 220W and offset at -0.100. Why? Because the efficiency curve is getting almost flat above 220W so there is almost zero loss here.
what are the cpu-z bench scores with those settings?
14900k (box) working perfect -0.100 undervolting👌 I'm also undervolted my GPU sapphire nitro+ 7900 xtx 24gb -10% in AMD adrenaline app. i get ultra high settings on 3440x1440, which is 34" dell Alienware QD OELD monitor the Avg. fps 155 on BF2042 i also disabled E-cores and disabled turbo boost and Turbo boost 3.0 on MSI motherboard in bios. And temps on my 14900k cpu 40c in bf2042 game, and on my gpu 7900 xtx 24gb temps around 50-55c
PS: i want to add one more important things! When i disable my turbo boost and the tb 3.0 on msi bios, yes i get cpu 14900k max temps 45c in bf2042, but.. my ping rise from 64ms jump sometimes to 75ms and sometimes i get a little lags (the connection lag mean) in game. and if i do enable my turbo boost and 3.0 in bios, i get temps 55-72c on 14900k in bf2042, more fps and less delay on my ping (connection)! It is stable 57ms and no lags at all! I think it is very important information!
Why did you disable ecores?
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@@Jigsaw2533cuz bruh
Just rewatched your video again as I actually switched to Intel after my Gigabyte X670E motherboard slowly died and then never powered on again. This simple explanation was perfect for me as I noticed the temperatures in Cinebench went straight to 100C on my new 14900K on some cores, even with a custom loop and Intel power limits used. This is keeping me under 90C now which is superb. I just got done testing slowly with benchmark software and a few games and I got it 'stable' currently at -0.0900v adaptive offset voltage. I tried -0.1000v and it passed benchmarks with higher scores but then Alan Wake 2 crashed to desktop and gave loads of WHEA errors. So I backed it off to -0.0900v and will see how we go from there! Can't thank you enough for this easy to understand video. I have done this sort of thing before, but it has been a while since I used an Intel motherboard and your guide really helped to simply explain things. What a guy!
I’m REALLY happy the vid was helpful! Thanks a lot for sticking around, I see your comments a lot on the channel :) Great results as well, -0.09V stable means you’ve got a very good sample there!
Thanks. I am still stable at -0.0900v 3 days later and no funny business with benchmark scores or WHEA errors yet!🙂@@ImWateringPSUs
hey im so glad u fixed ur issue
I have an i9-13900, this helped solve all my crashes and no more 99 degrees while gaming. itll hover around 80 and peak at 90 not sure if thats still bad but better than 99 constantly. I also have an AIO
If you can I’d get a bigger AIO or put fans on both sides of the radiator and make sure pump is running at 100% during gaming. I got a i9-14900k, 420mm AIO with 6 140mm fans and it’s never gone above mid 40C playing at 4k max settings.
Brother, that’s still bad
@@crimpsoncomment Anything under 80C is good so i think im good. only way to get it cooler would be custom loop/direct die cooler. Also I gave it a higher OC and turned my pump up. hasnt gone over 39C yet. What temps you running tho?
I just undervolted mine... -0.800 working perfecto.... doesn't go higher than 90c and is working even faster now. But I mean, it doesn't go above 90c even during heavy 3D simulations! fluids and rendering. that's hardcore.
Can you make a video for Gigabyte mb please??
I have the z790 strixx e-gaming wifi II, do u have any video for that ?
Hi. I am purchasing parts right now for my son's Christmas gift. I purchased a 14900k processor and was looking at the MSI Z790 Carbon Max WIFI II logic board. With these components what would you suggest as a good option for memory and for the cooling especially? Is purchasing the faster 7200mhz memory worth doing or should I just stick with 6000mhz? I am looking for cost effective options but not necessarily the cheapest. Thank you for the assistance.
Just bought a 14900k, getting about 74c to 78c just with game mode on my MSI Edge motherboard and Lian Li Galahad 2 LCD, hoping to get a decent under clock on it. Must say doesnt feel much faster than my 13600k :(
The thing is bloody terrifying lol. Games like Tarkov hit around 65 C max but Cyberpunk etc will see flashes up to the 70s. Tried MS flight SIM and even seen 80 at one point. Hoping thats okay...
Mate that's fine people who use this for actual work are hitting 100
It starts getting uncomfortable after 90. You’re good.
Yess, can confirm that’s actually pretty good compared to how high it runs for most people lol
Bro you're a king. You're channel is beyond useful
Ahahaha you're really way too kind! Be sure to sub then :p
Hi, do you have a video for undervolting a 14900 using the Uefi Bios utility for ASUS motherboard? 🤔 thanks if you do
My MB is MSI as well and the bios does not have the last few options the CPU core stuff. So all I was able to change was the water cooler to towr cooler and disabled the boost.
For 13th and 14th gen its even easier. All the user needs to do is 1) initially set a sync all core to whatever their default is, ie 5.6 for 13900ks.
Set your appropriate DC_LL as per LLC level, ie. On Asus LLC4 this is DC 0.98-1.02 depending on board. This makes VID match Vcore.
Then you set ACLL to a lower number. For this example, 0.20 is the start. Then you run R23 or TLOU shader compiling. If it crashes, raise. If it doesnt, lower. Repeat.
Theres your undervolting. After finished, revert back to normal core behaviour and run Geekbench 6. If it crashes, raise V/F 10 voltage as its not crashing at full load voltage and is instead crashing at the higher frequency boosts.
This gives you significantly greater control over every step of frequency, and only involves touching 1 knob, or 2 if you want high frequency light load boosts.
I'm getting 90c temps on idle which is causing throttling. I have a 420mm AIO! My system is stable though.
You are joking, right? 288W for P1 or P2 power limits is way too high. The Intel Spec defines 253W here for the i9-14900K. Never ever let this open. You should also easily can get a -0.125V offset with an i9-14900K if you do not do the BS you did before setting the voltage..
Curious, is it necessary to disable the Turbo Boost? Also there's a Turbo Boost Max 3.0 setting I see in my BIOS (gigabyte z790). Or just set it Turbo Boost to Enabled and Power to Intel POR?
Actually, he was spot on. Setting the P1 to 253w and undervolting to -0.100 is performing exceptionally well. I experimented with disabling the Turbo Boost, but it didn't yield significant improvements, so I re-enabled it. Yeah.@@mugensekai
@@sezzce Ok great that's good to know! I'll try that out tonight and compare temps. Cheerz
@@sezzcei did a all core set at 4.3 and still hit temps between 89-100c pcore with turbo disabled. Set it to auto with turbo enabled and got 5.7ghz on pcore and 4.3ghz on ecore while hitting same temps. 78-92c on pcore and 84-89c on ecore. Offset voltage was 0.3. That was the lowest it allowed me to go.
I did my own setup on a 280 AIO 1.175volts all core 56 max temp 70c with a cinebench score of 39800
Thanks for the video. I have the same MSI BIOS and a 14900K. I am confused about something. I am able to change to "Tower Air Cooler" and I disabled "Enhanced Turbo". Is that all I need to do? Thanks again for the great video
I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to leave some feedback :) Consider subscribing if you wanna support the channel! You also need to do the “offset” part!
@@ImWateringPSUs My motherboard does not have the "enhanced turbo" option. MAG B760 Mortar WiFi II. I found that I had to disabled UVP to be able to apply undervolt but I did the rest of the steps. I hope that's sufficient.
hello, is this video updated for the problems with new gens in intel? thank you
Will this work for the i9 13900K on msi motherboard?
In a post 0x12B Intel microcode release world, should we still look into undervolting? It seems as all Overclocking guides and info for maximizing performance on the 14th gen CPU's came out BEFORE all the Bios updates were made and now I am not sure if they are still valid or not.
Fair question, it’s the exact same as before! Still valid and same procedure :)
I was crashing by using 6400 MT/s ram. When I changed to 5600 I stopped having issues
i can’t find these settings on my gigabyte motherboard
The problem is your other videos don't mention the motherboard brand in the title or description.
This was very handy. Got temps on a NH-D15 from pegged at 100C (BIOS default) to sitting in the low 80's w/ 5.2Ghz all cores running Cinebench. That's a lot more reasonable. Why MSI assumes water cooling as default is crazy. I can imagine people just plugging one in and leaving it at default settings, never checking temps will be complaining about their chips failing at some point. Big honking tower coolers can totally handle it if you undervolt a little. Honestly pretty impressed. The thing can scream on single core tasks and run 5.8Ghz all day never breaking 60C. I would take it higher but it has to be 100% stable as it's a workstation and not a gaming PC.
Actually, after running some more tests, the chip is performing better than it was without the undervolt. More stable clocks not dipping occasionally to 5.0Ghz as it was before.
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is it really done? what about performance of cpu? did u checked? is it not working like lower grade cpu such as 14700k?
Quick, straight. However i would say is, maybe use XTU as well, since that allows pretty much the exact control. The main things your after is PL1/PL2 control and Undervolt offset.
Glad you liked it yes I agree, I prefer the bios to avoid having software running. Consider subscribing to support the channel :)
@@ImWateringPSUs It's actually a good idea to use XTU as your starting point to dial in your settings for stability, then simply uninstall the software and apply those settings in the BIOS. Running XTU while benchmarking is a worst case sceneario on performance. Which means you should be able to find a 100% stable setting with it, then be slightly more aggressive in the BIOS, and if you can't get stability while doing that, just go back to the settings you found with XTU.
PLS Pls Pls bro can you do the Same on a Gigabyte Mainboard Aurorus extrem x
Doesn't work. Just makes my pc crash each time i launch a game
I have i5 14600k(stock no oc) and cooler master hyper 212 halo cooler which cooler typer should i use in bios
I have the same motherboard and CPU as you, but this didn't work. Do you have any other recommendations?
There's something that I did not understand. Should I select the tower cooler even if I have a liquid cooler?
Selecting the tower cooler is just a shortcut to selecting Intel's recommended power limits, it's a matter of preference whether you want lower performance but better temps or vice versa. If you have anything less than a 360mm radiator, I would go with tower cooler for sure...
do you do this CPU with an ASUS Z690 Phantom Gaming 4?
Once I chance the settings my games won't open and crash in the loading screen I have a 14900k any suggestions guys
He fucked up my pc too, luckily I took a photo of the my previous settings so I can go back to them, SADLY when I went to them the temps range 80-100°c when throttling
@@ACTIVlS.1 what settings did you use and what processor?
@@ACTIVlS.1 you clearly did something wrong mate, or you used too much voltage offset for your cpu. This is much better than stock settings. Just try -0.050v, set power to box cooler (253w) you can't go wrong
@@HomeGrownMedia 14900k and had a similar motherboard I also had a Msi mobo
@@ACTIVlS.1 main thing to fix temps is just put the p1,p2 power at stock which is 253w (its called box cooler in bios like he shows) that will fix a lot and then try a small offset like he does in the video. -0.050 like he says is fine for ANY 14900k
On gigabyte there is two option for voltage CPU VDD and SOC something like that hwich undervolt ?
After you undervolt how you test for stability, run 3D Mark or Cinebench R23?
I use Prime95!
@@ImWateringPSUs thanks, i downloaded too Prime95, very heavy test. How much do you run it?
I like your presenting style. Great work!
Ahahah you’re way too kind! Thank you :)
I'm using I7 14700K does this setting works?
can't wait to set mine up! thank you
i have an ASUS Z790 E Gaming Wifi and i cannot find some of the option in this video... please help!!! i want to undervolt my 14900k!
probably you have to update your bios or the option is really hidden for some reason which is weird
What options can't you find? There's quite a few here you just don't have. This tutorial is a bit off for an ASUS user.
Be sure you’re running the latest bios, but also check in my playlists because I do the same things on Asus bios, so by crossreferencing two videos you’ll be able to do it
thank you so much. God Bless.@@ImWateringPSUs
the air cooler & AIO switching option@@AB-80X
Did y’all’s have C1E Support and Intel c state and rust and Intel speed shift technology enabled or disabled?
Very good question. If you want absolutely peak performance and snappiness, disable them. If you want better power consumption, efficiency etc: leave them enabled
You’re the man. Prior to this video I had set my power limits to 253 with 307 amps. It’s still like that with the above settings set and it’s much cooler with similar performance. Should I set the limits back to stock ?
running it at maximum lp1/lp2 will cause degradation very quickly for th 13th and 14th gen. 253/253 for lp1/lp2 with 307 amps is ideal for longevity.
Hi , i have an i9 10900f AIO with 3090. is 0.050 okay ?
THANKS for this.. same MB I was using for my 14900KS and undervolting DID NOT stablize the chip. BUT WHat I did wa change from 4096 to 3860W with the Artic Freezer and now I am stable. SO TL;DR if you are running an Artic Freezer on a 14900KS.. know its better than most cooling options but on the 14900KS it is still not enough.
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Thank you this was a huge help.
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I have 14900k but with intel turbo boost and max technology 3.0 enable all games crash with this error 0xc0000005, If I disable it all game go smoothly and no crashes, Another thing is I cant join to a transmission in disscord if I do discord just close...
Yeah it’s better to leave it off!
This helped my temps by like 15° on cinebench lol. It scored higher as well. Something that I am noticing is that it's still not going over 5ghz. Is that something that I could possibly tell it to do now that I've got the temps and throttling under control?
I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to leave some feedback :) Consider subscribing if you wanna support the channel! Going over 5Ghz you’d really need more voltage, but yes you can change it in the bios
When I do this, when I turn on Cinebench my CPU spikes to 90C instantly. Is it the voltage CPU core offset? I have an Artic II 420 AIO also and I used tower settings still.
Nope, it’s just the 14900K normal behavior. 90 is not bad, go with boxed cooler if you want it lower😅
@@ImWateringPSUs Thank you for the response.
putting -0.050 makes my pc to crash...Do i have to unable undervolt protection or smthing. Having same cpu as you z790 pro p wifi msi motherboard
I have the same mobo with the 14700k and putting any undervolt value crashes my games. I've tried .001 to .1 and all of them crashes apps.
Try to play with amperage of your motherboard. I've noticed that if I reduce the amperage by about 300A (set box cooler in bios) the CPU works more stable.
is nxzt kraken 240 enough for the water cooling option in bios?
Unfortunately it’s not🥲
My cs2 is always crashing i hope it will fix the problem.
Same here man bf42 is really hard on my 14900 too
It will help!
Same withe Gigabyte Mainboard pls
I have a 14900kf, will this video still be relevant to my cpu?
Sure
There's no "Enhanced Turbo" option anymore with latest BIOS? I don't have it.
There is! Put the OC tweaker into advanced😂
@@ImWateringPSUsIt's in advanced mode, of course. But my Mobo is MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI, maybe they are different somehow. Strange, all other options are the same.
@@bluedog8181 I have the same issue. No enhanced turbo either.
Question: After doing the undervolting as you have shown, I now can't run Cinebench, it just hangs. Should I be worried about games freezing? It's a new build so I haven't had a chance to try out any games yet. Great video BTW. Subbed.
Are you undervolting at -0.100, -0.075, -0.050, or something else?
Can I still overclock the cpu with turbo off?
This didn't work for me, however the video did help me eventually find the right settings to successfuly undervolt.
DON'T DO ALL THE STEPS. Doing all the steps made my games crash on startup.
The only steps I did was bump my cooling system down to box (253 volts), and then undervolt with offset by 0.100. This let me run cyberpunk in ultra settings at 70c. Before I did these settings, I was hitting 100c consistently.
I'll update this post if I run into any problems.
Edit: cinebench is stable with temps hovering between 85-93 with a few cores spiking to 96-98. Will be testing -0.125.
Edit 2: -0.125 was causing crashes. System is now stable at -0.110 with temps not reaching 90 during Cinebench. XMP enabled successfully.
So you did basically do all the steps! I’m glad the video was helpful in the end, great results
Yeh I agree turning off the setting in the bios made all my apps crash on startup even before undervolting. Just changing the 253volts and undervolting -1.05 for me made me go from 90-100c on games to 65-80c
@@iNT3NS3CLUTCHany issues? Still running 65-80 Celsius?
Do you have i9-14900K?
@@RnG_Ry So for me this did not help, i have the i9-14900KF, what I ended up doing was reverting bios to default, undervolting all the way up to -0.105V , 54x core ratio performance, and 42x efficient core on intel ETU. You have to tweak the undervolt between .005 intervals till you find one you don't crash on at all. for me -0.105 was perfect and ever since I have been at like 30 idle, 40-50 wile working with tons of apps open, and 60-70 while gaming on games like Rust with max settings/WoW/Cs2. no issues anymore, 0 crashes since for 3 days. When i changed the stuff he did in this video though i crashed like crazzzzy even with no undervolt and then when undervolting it got even worse.
@@iNT3NS3CLUTCH worddd. Thanks for the reply man. I didn’t want to change anything because I’m actually not experiencing any crashing or anything like that. Just temp spikes from 30 degrees to 50 degrees at idle. So I was looking to see if I could possibly undervolt to stop the temp spikes but after all this, I’m not even going to touch my bios settings LMAO.
i9-14900K
MSI Z790 A Pro Max Wifi
4080 Super
No issues with crashing
Just temp spikes
Nothing too bad
Turns out mine was at 125w, Running an i9 14900, 64GB, RTX 4090... I after 12 hours of trial and error realized the difference between my laptop with almost the same specs and my ROG Ally X is that they are both running (Win 11). So, I upgraded and now my powerhouse liguid cooled is running great. I keep it at (zero ray tracing and high graphics with XESS)
12 hours later.. install, reinstall, file validation, try different SSD's, run as admin, run in win 8...NOPE (WIN 11)
Hey im really excited for my 14900k coming this week, i mean are those settings safe ?
Yes they are, but only if you subscribe to the channel!
@@ImWateringPSUs I didn't subscribe and my CPU exploded wtf :O
A video for msi z790 tomahawk wifi please
If you crossreference the points in this vid with the "How to undervolt a 13th gen CPU" which is in my undervolting playlist, you should be able to follow the vid because that has an MSI motherboard!
@@ImWateringPSUsi have a tomahawk wifi MAX board, 4090 and i9 14900k.. should i do all that? My cooler is LIANLI GALAHAD 360 BLACK AIO 17
Does this also work on the new i9 14900KS?
Yessir! But only if you subscribe to the channel :p
This great, I have subbed because we also share the same mobo and bios. Thank you. P.s., do you have any recommendations for fan curves/settings and could you make a video on it for this build? Thanks man.
Thanks a lot! I’ll definitely make a CPU fan curve video :)
mine doesnt go over 90c but at some piont freez with games and crushed somehow so is it gonna work for me or no ? note i used cinebench and its the same one i start testing on r24 its going to freeze immedetly and crash same way with r23 my cpu 14900k
Yes! But only if you subscribe to the channel :)
With 0.05, my 14900k still refuses to work because it's not enough to eat :(
RMA
do you know how to load default cpu frequency
In the BIOS there is a setting where you can load factory defaults.Mind you these are the mobo manufacturer's defaults, not Intel's
Just got my system built this weekend, gonna try these settings out and I'll report back. Maybe I won the silicon lottery and got a golden chip?
hello everyone, please tell me, I tried to do undervolting, on an i7 14700kf, on an msi pro z790 a max WiFi motherboard, I initially set the offset -by cpu, -0.020, the computer hangs in the stress test, am I doing something wrong?, or Am I unlucky with the CPU? Please Help🙏🙏🙏🙏
You’re a bit unlucky, try -0.010 :)
Amazing, subbed.
Where's the video for asus motherboards
In my CPU undervolting playlist!
@@ImWateringPSUs so hard to find
should i go above cpu base speed or not
?
Above base yes, above boost no. Just follow the tutorial :)
Tried this, teperatures looked a bit better, and everything seemed smooth at the beginning but mid game suddenly the PC restarted itself :/
Lol
I’m runnning my 14900 with a -0.130 offset with no issues
Man you’ve got a REALLY good chip! I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to leave some feedback :) Consider subscribing if you wanna support the channel!
@@ImWateringPSUs from what I’ve read -0.120 is pretty standard for the 14900k’s. I haven’t tried anything lower than -0.130 but gaming and no crashes so far 🤷♂️
I cannot believe these options are locked for b760 boards that is insane
This didn't age well. The only useful part for me was it is an MSI board.
I upgraded to 1200Watt PSU, all new Corsair fans, 360AIO with a 4090 I haven’t gone above 32C on any games so far gaming with 4090
That’s crazy good ahahaha
the video libaray says overclocking, its underclocking, minor mistake but this is nice and will help
It's strange, but you can actually boost the speed of your processor by reducing the amount of wattage it takes. You need a good balance, so if the factory settings are set for max power draw to achieve high performance, it could have the opposite affect of limiting the speed of your processor.
This made my pc crash so much unfortunately. Went back to stock with tower cooled and it runs smooth as butter
Better than other undervolts i did
But 5 min with cine bench throttling is on ... Maximum voltage i can do without crash is 0.060
dont undervolt the 14900k. It's the Problem because of the ram stability
@@serbostyleboy why the video owner is doing so ?
The thing about RAM stability is false. It's not correlated. -0.06V is actually good, I'd say lower a bit the wattage limit of your CPU and you should be able to avoid throttling. Or consider disabling the e-cores :)
Thanks a lot bro it works as you said by limiting wattage no throtteling all the test
@@dzjoypad
Just curious, but what did you set your long time watts limit at? I never touched the wattage limits for the ROG Strix Z790 running the 14900K in wifeys rig, and at -0.08 it is just chugging along at 85 C happy as a clam in BurnInTest. Off the cuff, I seem to recall that on ASUS ROG Strix Z790 boards the limit is set to something like 260'ish watts.
Very well explained. Thank you. I dont have much luck with my i9-14900k. Undervolting by - 0,05, 0,04 and 0,03 gave me random exceptions in CB23. 0,01 and 0,02 worked. Could it be that i'm that unlucky? Running on a MSI Z790 tomahawk wifi ddr5 with latest bios.
Nah u just have to find ur sweet spot ..I'm on a rog z790-e. Offset -
adaptive , - .1 , 253 long, 300 short with my llc set to 4. ..cb23 40k. Temps capping at 87-90. Idle Temps are around 35 , while gaming 55 - 60
@@AB-80X Hey what do you all use to do these test, and what does Crash means? Just Cinebench, and cinebench crashes, or do I have to expect the system to give me a BSOD?
same asu u brah. Do everything of the video...Putting -0-050 voltage makes my pc to hardcrash...Dunno whatr to do...Same motherboard and cpu
@@josemacasa9490
What is your wattage limits short and long term set at?
@@AB-80X how do i set that? Sry im new at this😂
On my 13700k I just limited voltage to 1.2. never above 80c while under 100% load. On my old system I messed with an entire undervolt, but I didn't feel like tuning it and trying until it's stable. So 1.2v worked just fine for me. 😊
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DUDE THIS IS AMAZING! My CPU benchmarks went up by like 10% and I’m consuming less power. The intel extreme tuning utility would crash my computer, whereas this just works.
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If you have a k processor it's a must to undervolt
With the latest intel generations this is absolutely a fact!
ive thought about this cause of integrated graphics next time ill be aware of that
Meh. You can also just spend a bit extra and order a CPU from DerBauer with the "Pro" IHS mod. Temps drop significantly and you can push it much harder.
Disabling enhanced turbo tanked my fps dramatically. I would not recommend that.
So what I'm not understanding is we're just taking the voltage out while the card is running stock? Or is there a way to boost the core speed higher than stock? With also under volting like I'm loosing so much performance just to keep this piece of shit low on temp I should have went with AMD
Intel CPUs are tuned quite aggressively, which often leads to thermal throttling. By undervolting, you can achieve higher sustained turbo speeds and better overall performance, assuming the chip is healthy. As mentioned in the video, a stable undervolt range typically falls between -0.05V to -0.1V (I personally achieved around -0.07V). Intel has already pushed clock speeds as far as possible with conventional cooling, but with extreme overclocking, these chips have become the fastest since Bulldozer, breaking GHz limits. For example, the 14900KS is the fastest CPU to date, reaching an impressive 9.12GHz, albeit with liquid helium cooling!
Your points about AMD are completely valid, especially with the X3D chips, which offer excellent performance.
As for my personal experience with the 13900 (even a non-K version), I found that undervolting not only improved performance but also resulted in lower temperatures- a win-win! If you have any of these power hungry Intel chips, I highly recommend experimenting with your BIOS to undervolt. I was able to achieve solid results on a H670 motherboard without any loss of turbo boost, allowing the CPU to sustain higher speeds for longer and deliver more performance.
Hi nice video :D
It would be nice to see the i7-13700k
Until he makes one, I have a 13700k that I tuned. Follow these same steps but don't mess with the boost duration stuff and for voltage mode use adaptive + offset. I got 54 ratio on p core and 43 in e cores. Voltage offset is 0.075 . I also have an MSI z790 and with latest bios I can now get 0.08 stable. Id say the 0.075 should be stable on all. If not go to 0.070 and dial it up by 0.001 til it crashes during a benchmark. It's a good little undervolt + overclock
14700k here, stable at 0.09500 offset in case it helps. Limited to 250w.
Great advice, I do have a "How to undervolt a 13th gen CPU" tutorial out, but I'll try to cover the 13700K asap!
Can u do a tutorial on asus motherboard
You’re actually lucky because it’s releasing tomorrow :)
Nice. ;)
@@ImWateringPSUs link to vid?
Спасибо дружище, помог 🤜
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i got it stable at 52x pcore 42 ecore at 1.23 vcore
what is the undervolt value?
I applied -0.08 v but it turned out unstable . Could be my MB. that i rma now waiting for new one 🤞
Bro, I support your channel but you really need to do more stability testing before saying you can undervolt these cpus this much.
What program are you stress testing with? How bout Ycruncher or Prime? You really need to revisit these claims and back them up with stability tests.
In other words you need to prove your advice is stable, just saying so isn't enough you know what I mean?
I do very in-depth stress tests to validate all my numbers. I test at least 3 different samples on 2 different motherboards and validate the average stability point, plus I ask people I know to run them for me. Generally for every undervolting video there is a PC build on the channel with that CPU in which I also run some stability testing on-screen. But really seeing a stress test that just “works” wouldn’t be good content to bring, so I stick to the tutorial!
Man I want 10 p cores with hyper threading and give me another 10 e cores and I'm happy
AHAHAHAHHAHAH
Please gigabyte motherboard
gerçekten işe yarıyor bende 240mm color master sıvı sağutma var işe yarıyo 46c 60c arasında
don’t do this.. i have no more display.
Спасибо большое, мне помогло ваше видео 🤝 процессор 14900к
Pl1,2 253w офсет -0.050 400А xmp 5600 bios не обновлял, стоит стоковый А0 вроде (мартовский) водянка arctic iii 360
Thank you for this interesting video! Btw, you're looking pretty much like another youtuber called Survival Mattin XD.
Glad you found it helpful! If I look like him and you're subbed to his channnel I think you should follow me too :p
all this settings discussion and no wattage testing. meh.
I would recommend Cpu lite load mode 3 and core voltage offset -0.060 for 13600K and it works great. Max temp 69°C, max power draw 115 Wattage. Clock speeds are as they should be and work perfectly fine. Someone could try the same thing with the MSI motherboard with the 13/14700K and 13/14900K processors.