We all know the B58 engine is extremely underrated in power output. I live in Las Vegas where we only get 91 octane fuel, and at 2300ft altitude, my 2022 GR Supra dynoed at 368whp and 416wtq. Factor in 15% drivetrain loss, and it's making well over 400 to the crank.
@@AD-sp5cv from what I've usually seen, Hyundai has a history of overrating the power output of their engines, even since the early 2000s. I think there was even a class action lawsuit with the Delta V6 engine, (2.7L) that was used the Sonata, Tuscon, Santa Fe, and Tiburon. I'm not sure what year is exactly began, but they initially claimed the engine made 181hp and 180 ftlb tq at the crank. In 2001 or 2002, they dropped the official output to 171hp and 170ftlb tq, and owners of vehicle with that engine were given an en extra 2 years/20k miles on their power train warranty. I remember this because my parents had a 2001 Santa Fe when I was 13.
@@Mundoormaadan yes, BMW is highly underrating the power output. AMS tuning dynoed one that made 400hp at the wheels bone stock. Granted they are at 500ft above sea level, which would explain why the car they tested is making a lot more power than mine did.
@@Jaime7188 False. The new B58TU, makes ~370 WHP in 2023 X3M40i and this is with the mild hybrid assist. Now with Supra, or any RWD BMW with that engine you can make a bit more WHP, cos you have less drivetrain loses. 380WHP is a fair number. 400WHP is out of question.
The B58 engine with a ZF transmission is a absolute beast of a 6 cylinder engine no matter if it's in a 2 door coupe 4 door sedan or even in a big SUV it never seizes to amaze me it definitely is the modern 2JZ
What is even more insane is a slight tune if they crack that ecm makes that x3 m40i even better with a very big jump in HP and TQ. Underrated and detuned from the factory!
When it comes to performance then the obvious choice is the BMW with that iconic engine and transmission but if you’re looking for beyond just performance then the amenities that Genesis brings to the table also makes it an incredible daily.
My thoughts exactly. Yes the X3M is a beast, but it doesn’t have a 100m mile warranty… and it costs nearly $20,000 more than the Genesis. If you’re not out here racing professionally the GV70 is a winner for me personally
I must say I do enjoy your drage races sir. The selection of cars is beautiful. The content stright to the point. Always a pleasure watching your uploads. That genesis is sweet. Wow!!. But that Bima yooooo!!!!! 😂 😂 😂 She is the one.
@@johnbmw550i economy on these is just as impressive as the power output. On my m340i x drive, I can easily get over 30mpg on the highway cruising at 75-80mph. I didn't buy it for fuel efficiency, but it blows my mind how the engineers can get so much power and still make this thing fuel efficient.
@@johnbmw550i I have a 21 M340i XDrive with 26k miles on it. AVERAGING 31.0 mpg since new and my commute to work is 26 miles half freeway, half city streets. I can easily average 33-35 mpg on the way to work and 36-40 mpg on the way home. I never would have guessed it would get this good of gas mileage. The key is get the stock (smaller) wheel size and they not only ride more comfortably but get better gas mileage too. Same applies for the X3 M40i (which I now have on order for my wife).
I have searched and for the 6 cylinder models they are identical in price, whether you build it on their websites, find them online or at the dealer. Fully loaded the X3 ends up a thousand or two more than the Genesis.
Was debating on M Comp vs M40i, already leaning toward M40i because of softer suspension for a daily. But being an avid cyclist, only M40i have trailer hitch option for bike rack did it for me.
If Genesis had put a little extra into the Lambda 1 and 2 (3.3L and 3.5L v6) motors for the Stinger, g70, gv70, etc. they might be pretty competitive in terms of performance. I personally love the look of the GV70 over the X3 - GV70 reminds me of a Macan in its styling - and the interiors are also extremely competitive with the rest of the segment. All it's missing is that extra oomf when it comes to performance. It makes sense WHY they did what they did, they are going to enter the electric segment very aggressively. It doesn't make sense to dump an extra couple million $ into the Lambda line, when it's about to become obsolete. With that said, for those who want to modify their cars, JB4 supports tuning for the platform still, with their dyno claiming nearly 100whp and 130+tq running 91 octane + 20% ethanol. You do intakes and exhaust, you will easily have that car over 500whp and closer to 600tq on 93. Will be a lot more competitive.
@@scottroberts5529 yeah, the n54 was a nightmare, then the n55 replaced it and only used one turbocharger which already is a huge improvement over the n54, then the B58 replaced the n55 and I think they worked out all the kinks.
Yeah I’m not sure we needed this match up but then again we did lol. For the money and for getting the family from place to place in style and comfort, the GV70 is a win. If you know the BMW formula though you know how this murder unfolds.
Good video. I have a feeling my 2019 M40i would deliver the same result with a lower horsepower rating. Wish I had the black trim like the one in this video.
I’m hoping the price of these vehicles are in the video. Love the work my brother. Price is key on this level. I’m sure the X3m40 is gonna smoke the GV70 because I believe the the BMW has a part hybrid system.
@@ffrnando4388 It beats AMG, the comparable AMG, which is GLC 43 , Just face it, it'll beat everyone in the same class speed wise, but i also going to pick Genesis still, it's still interesting to drive, but better looking(way better) outside and inside, and cheaper
@@ezrapardede1921 yup, that B58 is no joke… pretty much eats up everything in its class but the G70 has the second highest top speed at about 170 just under the scatpacks. The AMG C43, M340i, and S4 all top out at 155
@@ezrapardede1921 it’s funny how all you BMW fanbois adore this D58 I already ran against a Supra gr and x3 m40 and had no problem beating them on a roll or dig, you guys just don’t want to admit this engine isn’t the best as you think 😂
I love my 23 x3M40i. It’s has well build interior, best infotainment in the business, and its fast!! I wouldn’t dare put a genesis in my garage. Those Korean cars are catching on fire quite often than your other brands. Yikes 😬
Ok. That intro video and music was fantastic. That really, really needed some engine sounds and a launch at the end. Cutting to an in-car hosting gig was such a let down of a beautiful 1:15
Currently, we have an M140i that is run on Shell's V-Power unleaded. The B58 is a monster of an engine, especially in something the size of a 1er. If the other manufacturers brought cruise-missile specified hot-hatches to the party, BMW arrived with a nuke in the M140i.
im getting the gv70 probably get it tuned or something but i all the bmws ive had or been in the throttle response is incredible even my co workers audi rs7 don't respond as good as most the bmws ive been in.
I have a first Gen B58 in my 2018 340i rear wheel drive six speed manual and I can say, hands down, the funnest car I have driven in ages. Have not driven the new Supra or the new S58. But for what I paid, I’m extremely satisfied. Also, to anyone comparing interiors and features, you’re not the demographic for a driver car. Go buy that I-Phone on wheels, a Tesla Plaid.
Sure is by a long shot! People that decide to buy anything other the the B58 paired with the ZF8 tranny made a huge mistake in their purchasing decision!
@@blinsmaslom3263 The ultra responsive silky smooth power delivery is worth every dollar! The driving dynamics, and overall feel of the car going down the road is unmatched!🙂
@@germanengineering204I would argue that in terms of "the overall feel", the Genesis and the Lexus are much more complete packages, but I doubt that would matter to someone with your nickname :-)
@@germanengineering204 Lmao I love you lowlives that think you're all that driving a half M car because you're too poor too afford a real M but still want to boast about driving a BMW. I daily an M8 and I can agree that the gv70 is much better for its price, looks, and interior quality.
I owned 2022 X3 Competition myself running on resonator delete/ non-Cat Downpipe conservative tune 710 WHP ultimate sleeper.I beat many cars mostly dodge (Demon) included, mustang and Audi and loving it.
Wow really? I have a 20 X3 M40i and 22 GLC43 but have had a 17 Macan S and 21 SQ5 in the past. But judging from the gap in the video , I don't think the other cars would be that much slower. I will say that the SQ5 is the least exciting of the bunch.
I currently have a 20 X3 M40i and a 22 GLC43. I've also had a 17 Macan S and 21 SQ5. I wonder how the GV70 would do against the SQ5 as it's the lowest on HP in this "sporty crossover" class @ 349HP.
@@geforce5591 The Macan S was a great car but it's pretty cramped for a SUV. Also, the 2017 Macan S I had only had 335HP at the time, I think the new Macan S inherited the old GTS motor so it's got more power now. Between the Macan and the M40i, I choose the M40i. It just does a whole lot more overall. It drives great, sounds great, great tech and utility. Believe me, I lease 2 cars at a time every 3 years through my company so I'm fortunate enough to drive a lot of cool cars 3 years at a time. If I had to choose 1 car, it would be the X3 M40i.
In Australia, GV 70 3.5 and X3 m40 priced at quite close. Normal buyer definitely will choose X3 over GV70. Unless Genesis offer 20-30% promotion over their price but in officially Hyundai Australia doesn't offer any discount on Genesis brand car (mentioned in their webpage, but real practice in dealership, idk)
BMW always rates their engines output at the minimum they will perform. so they will always be more powerful than the spec sheet suggests, to which they will always get the bragging rights.
Not sure why but BMW always totally sandbags their power numbers. I have a 2022 X5 and it's fast, much faster than the power numbers would suggest. Here the Genesis had .5 liter bigger engine and negligible weight difference but the BMW just smoked it.
First saw Genesis GV70 and we were pretty much decided. Just for formality went and saw BMW X3 next but there was no comparison. GV70 is beauty from outside and inside.
I wouldn't say this is a walk of shame, because this is the outcome that literally EVERYONE expected. It's like If a college basketball player lost to an NBA player 1-on-1. It'd only be a walk of shame if the Genesis/college player won.
Genesis is to give you a discount version of a BMW like performance. However it (in all car magazines) falls just short all the time. They come the closest to BMW because at Kia/Hyundai, they hired the former BMW engineers to build their performance cars like the Stinger and the G70 to give them a similar experience. They were designed to compete on the price point and I think they do overall quite well as the BMW engineers working in Korea did their jobs well.
I would like to see the actual price differences, which is a definite factor when purchasing a new vehicle. If they were the same price, no brained. But if your talking another 20 grand…
To be fair...the X3 is like $56,000 thr GV70 is $42,000. ..the top of the line GV70 would get you at a price point of $57K. When there is a $5-$10K+ price difference in cars, the expectation is higher for the more $$$$ car. I can appreciate Genesis, they came into the car game copying everyone, but then flipped it once they knew that the car came is WIDE open. They have that hunger to be the best like Toyota/Honda/Infinity/Acura when they first hit the car scene.
I'm not sure where you're getting the $$$ #'s. But the X3 M40i starts at $57,800, while the G70 3.5T starts at $53,100. Maybe you meant G70 starts at $52000
I love my X3 M40i....didn't even consider a Genesis or Volvo. The X3 M40i is quicker than the GLC43 and way more practical than the Macan. It's the perfect all rounder without being too bulky and yet roomy and quick!
I just ordered a 23 X3M40i 2 weeks ago with high performance wheels/tires and with the M sport diff. I test drove a 2020 GLC43 for a week an I was impressed , but haven’t driven a x3M40i. Isn’t that crazy lol , but I chose the BMW because Merc was charging 10k over MSRP 😵💫🥴. So the BMW is faster than the GLC 43? Good! I hoped it was. The GLC 43 didn’t even come with a standard pano roof..for that price point I’ll pass, but the GLC did have a beautiful colorful digital dash cluster display which I love along with the auto changing ambient lighting, the red seat belts and the nice steering wheel w amg unit controls
@@Mr.Lambert777 Nice! That also swayed me...the Merc option packs are akward and the BMW packs are way better configured/mixed. My dad has a GLC diesel which I saw and drove a number of times, so I really noticed the difference in driving dynamics with the X3. Great choice!
@@Mr.Lambert777 …I wouldn’t be so sure about that … Car and Driver ran the GV-70 2.5 1/4 mile in 14.4 and 0-60 in 5.6; it ran the BMW 30i 1/4 mile in 14.9 and 0-60 in 6.2.
@@g.p.courtney8536 hmm interesting, well I am like you, lets see it in a real world testing like this! I have a 23 X3M40i. It claims quarter mile time in 12.8 but seen vids of it in stock form doing it in 12.4ish
From BMW'S website description......... "The 3.0-liter BMW M TwinPower Turbo inline 6-cylinder engine includes new 48V mild-hybrid technology for more efficient operation and enhanced acceleration."....... It's a hybrid.......not a fair comparison
@@88hemoglobin I drove both cars and I found the genesis to have the nicer interior and more comfortable. Much easier infotainment systems to use , it's also less expensive while having more features so you got much more for the money. And the Rader cruise control system is just lfar better when using it on the freeway. And then you have the looks whenever that car passes bye people break their necks but when that BMW passes no one even notices.
Saw this coming lol I think Genesis is trying to go the angle of refined luxury vs. BMW's angle of best in class engine & transmission Going off of tech, comfort, quality, and design, the Genesis wins hands down in my opinion
We knew how this would turn out. The B58 is one of the best engines that BMW has made and probably one of the best in the world.
B58 is “like” a modernized 2JZ 🤔
There’s still the best 4 cyl in the world 😏 look it up
B58 + ZF 8-speed is THE powertrain to beat at the moment. It's fast, smooth, efficient, and makes a great noise. Hard to beat.
@@madpistol Lol
@@madpistol that’s the new GR Supra combo 😳
You cannot race that car against BMW MLite car powered by a B58 engine. That engine is iconic.
That X3 has a B58 in it... you've already lost.
The Genesis had a case of water bottles in the back, added some extra weight 😁
@james batu I was thinking the same thing. Lose those bottles... NOW we've got a fair fight! lol
I think the fact that he never uses launch control is the biggest factor.
Still, even if he actually launched the GV70 properly, it still would lose.
@@MrPsalms207 them mufflers are so HEAVY
LOL@@MrPsalms207
We all know the B58 engine is extremely underrated in power output. I live in Las Vegas where we only get 91 octane fuel, and at 2300ft altitude, my 2022 GR Supra dynoed at 368whp and 416wtq. Factor in 15% drivetrain loss, and it's making well over 400 to the crank.
And the genesis is highly overrated. I test drive the 3.5 twin turbo… felt way slower than the power states.
@@AD-sp5cv from what I've usually seen, Hyundai has a history of overrating the power output of their engines, even since the early 2000s. I think there was even a class action lawsuit with the Delta V6 engine, (2.7L) that was used the Sonata, Tuscon, Santa Fe, and Tiburon. I'm not sure what year is exactly began, but they initially claimed the engine made 181hp and 180 ftlb tq at the crank. In 2001 or 2002, they dropped the official output to 171hp and 170ftlb tq, and owners of vehicle with that engine were given an en extra 2 years/20k miles on their power train warranty. I remember this because my parents had a 2001 Santa Fe when I was 13.
So b58 engine produce 400+ BHP?
@@Mundoormaadan yes, BMW is highly underrating the power output. AMS tuning dynoed one that made 400hp at the wheels bone stock. Granted they are at 500ft above sea level, which would explain why the car they tested is making a lot more power than mine did.
@@Jaime7188 False. The new B58TU, makes ~370 WHP in 2023 X3M40i and this is with the mild hybrid assist. Now with Supra, or any RWD BMW with that engine you can make a bit more WHP, cos you have less drivetrain loses. 380WHP is a fair number. 400WHP is out of question.
more like 380 hp at the wheel for the X3.
B58 is the beast.
The B58 engine with a ZF transmission is a absolute beast of a 6 cylinder engine no matter if it's in a 2 door coupe 4 door sedan or even in a big SUV it never seizes to amaze me it definitely is the modern 2JZ
Ceases
What is even more insane is a slight tune if they crack that ecm makes that x3 m40i even better with a very big jump in HP and TQ. Underrated and detuned from the factory!
When it comes to performance then the obvious choice is the BMW with that iconic engine and transmission but if you’re looking for beyond just performance then the amenities that Genesis brings to the table also makes it an incredible daily.
My thoughts exactly. Yes the X3M is a beast, but it doesn’t have a 100m mile warranty… and it costs nearly $20,000 more than the Genesis. If you’re not out here racing professionally the GV70 is a winner for me personally
@@NSUScooterThe warranty is because the hyundai can’t develop a reliable motor if their life depended on it. B58 is a proven motor.
I love the BMW but that Genesis would still be my pick. Both of these are great suvs though
Lmao why would you pick the genesis genuinely curious?
@@thiccboi1726 Genesis would give me features that I would have to pay thousands more for on an X3. I also think the genesis looks better.
@@thiccboi1726 You know nothing about the GV70 do you?. Still impressed by badges in 2022🤦🏿♂️
I honestly compared it and just to get a digital dash in the genesis brought the price to the same as the bmw. Glad I went with the X3
@@andreipretorius92 good for you 👍🏿
The horses in Germany are a bit bigger than the ones in Korea 😂 that’s why 382 BHP feel like 450 BHP 🤣
I must say I do enjoy your drage races sir. The selection of cars is beautiful.
The content stright to the point. Always a pleasure watching your uploads.
That genesis is sweet. Wow!!. But that Bima yooooo!!!!! 😂 😂 😂 She is the one.
Definitely what I expected. Those M-Lite cars are no joke. I love my M340i.
What's your economy like?.
Had a 2021 m340i for a loaner , it went side ways . it's one of them cars that don't look like you wanna race but will dust you
@@johnbmw550i economy on these is just as impressive as the power output. On my m340i x drive, I can easily get over 30mpg on the highway cruising at 75-80mph. I didn't buy it for fuel efficiency, but it blows my mind how the engineers can get so much power and still make this thing fuel efficient.
@@johnbmw550i My dad has the rear drive M340i and gets ~33 on the hwy going 75.
@@johnbmw550i I have a 21 M340i XDrive with 26k miles on it. AVERAGING 31.0 mpg since new and my commute to work is 26 miles half freeway, half city streets. I can easily average 33-35 mpg on the way to work and 36-40 mpg on the way home. I never would have guessed it would get this good of gas mileage. The key is get the stock (smaller) wheel size and they not only ride more comfortably but get better gas mileage too. Same applies for the X3 M40i (which I now have on order for my wife).
Today’s Beamers are made to compete with Porsche. .. and it shows 😜
Factssss
When considering price of the car, GV70 is definitely unmatched compare to other German competitors
I have searched and for the 6 cylinder models they are identical in price, whether you build it on their websites, find them online or at the dealer. Fully loaded the X3 ends up a thousand or two more than the Genesis.
$1000 more and you go BMW, no brainer
@@andreipretorius92if you are going for performance for sure :)
The obvious GV70's competitor is 2022 Lexus NX 350 F Sport, not the Germans.
@@blinsmaslom3263 lmao the NX is a tiny cheap Lexus. It’s not competitive for any of these cars 😂
Was debating on M Comp vs M40i, already leaning toward M40i because of softer suspension for a daily. But being an avid cyclist, only M40i have trailer hitch option for bike rack did it for me.
Great! I am also proud owner of X3M 40 i. I am simply in love with it and it has enough power to cruise on motorways and city
I have the 2020 X3 m40i. On my draggy I pulled a 4.3 0 to 60 and a 12.50 quarter mile and mine is 100% stock. I can't wait to put a flash tune in it
GREAT video brother! I've been wanting to see the new GV70 in action! Thank you!
That first race had me laughing out of my seat! The commentary while the gap kept growing was hilarious! 😆
He was like it's going it's going Jesus Christ 😂
If Genesis had put a little extra into the Lambda 1 and 2 (3.3L and 3.5L v6) motors for the Stinger, g70, gv70, etc. they might be pretty competitive in terms of performance. I personally love the look of the GV70 over the X3 - GV70 reminds me of a Macan in its styling - and the interiors are also extremely competitive with the rest of the segment. All it's missing is that extra oomf when it comes to performance. It makes sense WHY they did what they did, they are going to enter the electric segment very aggressively. It doesn't make sense to dump an extra couple million $ into the Lambda line, when it's about to become obsolete.
With that said, for those who want to modify their cars, JB4 supports tuning for the platform still, with their dyno claiming nearly 100whp and 130+tq running 91 octane + 20% ethanol. You do intakes and exhaust, you will easily have that car over 500whp and closer to 600tq on 93. Will be a lot more competitive.
The gv70 looks amazing but as a 1st gen x3 M40i owner the b58 is too much fun to pick over the gv70
Great vid
ditto! and the pops and burbles are amazing!
@@wbwright79 yep
That too
Hi Sam , please do Gv70 2.5t and a regular x3 ….thank you for this one
Very hard to beat the best drivetrain on the market today. The B58 is really an engine of the gods.
Basically a more reliable version of the n54 wth out all the issues
@@scottroberts5529 yeah, the n54 was a nightmare, then the n55 replaced it and only used one turbocharger which already is a huge improvement over the n54, then the B58 replaced the n55 and I think they worked out all the kinks.
@@scottroberts5529 more reliable, more efficient, more powerful. N54 is old tech. But it has good tuning potential.
GV70 has the beauty and the X3 has the hammer 🔨
GV70 has Beauty and a fake exhaust 😁
Gv70 does have launch control. Would really love to see these cars race again where both cars are launched
Interior maybe but exterior 100% not . The genesis is borderline ugly outside
Awesome videos as usual. Love all your content. Would appreciate some starts in matric Kilowatts and Newton metres. Greetings from South Africa 🙏🏿
Correction stats 👌
The GV70 DOES have launch control!
Any chance we will see the Model Y LR vs the X3 M40??
I don’t think anyone expected a different result.
Same outcome happened when he raced an X5 and a GV80.
Yeah I’m not sure we needed this match up but then again we did lol. For the money and for getting the family from place to place in style and comfort, the GV70 is a win. If you know the BMW formula though you know how this murder unfolds.
Good video. I have a feeling my 2019 M40i would deliver the same result with a lower horsepower rating.
Wish I had the black trim like the one in this video.
I’m hoping the price of these vehicles are in the video. Love the work my brother. Price is key on this level. I’m sure the X3m40 is gonna smoke the GV70 because I believe the the BMW has a part hybrid system.
Expected this… BMWs M Sports pretty much shits on everyone…. Would still pick the GV70😅 both look sexy though! Lovin the Vids
Not AMG
@@ffrnando4388 It beats AMG, the comparable AMG, which is GLC 43 , Just face it, it'll beat everyone in the same class speed wise, but i also going to pick Genesis still, it's still interesting to drive, but better looking(way better) outside and inside, and cheaper
@@ezrapardede1921 yup, that B58 is no joke… pretty much eats up everything in its class but the G70 has the second highest top speed at about 170 just under the scatpacks. The AMG C43, M340i, and S4 all top out at 155
@@ezrapardede1921 it’s funny how all you BMW fanbois adore this D58 I already ran against a Supra gr and x3 m40 and had no problem beating them on a roll or dig, you guys just don’t want to admit this engine isn’t the best as you think 😂
@@ffrnando4388 With what
Do you use the same dramatic music for Prius vs Corolla drag race?
Not sure if B in B58 stands for
Beast or beatdown
BEAT-58 not B58
X3M40i 🙌🙌
BMW really knocked it out of the park with this crossover. It’s truly best in class.
2nd best according to Car and Driver.. behind the GV70
Fast yes but styling is boring and interior
@@lizardgreen2121 agree
Only for those that value raw power over everything else.
I love my 23 x3M40i. It’s has well build interior, best infotainment in the business, and its fast!! I wouldn’t dare put a genesis in my garage. Those Korean cars are catching on fire quite often than your other brands. Yikes 😬
Please can you do a drag between X7 40i v GV80 thanks!
I have a 2005 3X and I love my car. It gets up and GOES. I've driven other fast cars but the stability doesn't compare with my old BMW.
Ok. That intro video and music was fantastic. That really, really needed some engine sounds and a launch at the end. Cutting to an in-car hosting gig was such a let down of a beautiful 1:15
Can you do a race against the x3M40i vs The GLC 43 AMG ..
when will you drop a video with the 17 accord coupe v6?
Currently, we have an M140i that is run on Shell's V-Power unleaded. The B58 is a monster of an engine, especially in something the size of a 1er. If the other manufacturers brought cruise-missile specified hot-hatches to the party, BMW arrived with a nuke in the M140i.
Man, only if Sam took out that case of water before the race. It could been different result.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Who knows how many more cases are hidden behind the rear seat...
Great vid Sam!!! Love the GV 70 so special but the M other wort to describe.
im getting the gv70 probably get it tuned or something but i all the bmws ive had or been in the throttle response is incredible even my co workers audi rs7 don't respond as good as most the bmws ive been in.
I have a first Gen B58 in my 2018 340i rear wheel drive six speed manual and I can say, hands down, the funnest car I have driven in ages. Have not driven the new Supra or the new S58. But for what I paid, I’m extremely satisfied.
Also, to anyone comparing interiors and features, you’re not the demographic for a driver car. Go buy that I-Phone on wheels, a Tesla Plaid.
Both are awesome car
If I get to choose one of them for second car, I'll take GV70
But if I get to drive only one car, I'll get X3
Wished you have this GV70 to go against the MDX Type S yesterday..That X3 is fast!
Love this channel
Definitely knew the outcome curious to see the 4cy version of the x3 vs that same genesis
The 4 cylinder X3 is pretty weak. The 2.5T GV70 would have it. I hope you weren’t referring to the GV70 3.5T vs X3 4 cylinder.
I’m a proud owner of a 2021 X3 M40I, it’s the best midsize SUV you can buy. It’s has everything you want in a mid size SUV and has crazy power….🏁
Sure is by a long shot! People that decide to buy anything other the the B58 paired with the ZF8 tranny made a huge mistake in their purchasing decision!
The most powerful? For sure, the best? I'd take this GV70 or the Lexus NS 350 F Sport over the X3 for my money.
@@blinsmaslom3263 The ultra responsive silky smooth power delivery is worth every dollar! The driving dynamics, and overall feel of the car going down the road is unmatched!🙂
@@germanengineering204I would argue that in terms of "the overall feel", the Genesis and the Lexus are much more complete packages, but I doubt that would matter to someone with your nickname :-)
@@germanengineering204 Lmao I love you lowlives that think you're all that driving a half M car because you're too poor too afford a real M but still want to boast about driving a BMW. I daily an M8 and I can agree that the gv70 is much better for its price, looks, and interior quality.
Hope that Genesis can up their game with their engines
I owned 2022 X3 Competition myself running on resonator delete/ non-Cat Downpipe conservative tune 710 WHP ultimate sleeper.I beat many cars mostly dodge (Demon) included, mustang and Audi and loving it.
As expected. Genesis beats all the others but the M40i, same goes for the G70 basically, beats all but the M340i.
But the Audi S4 beat the G70 though.
@@TheBreakfastLover eh, barely
The GV70 hasn’t beat the GLC43 AMG nor the SQ5 and the G70 hasn’t beaten the C43 AMG nor the S4.
A Volvo XC60 makes 400-415 in a 4cyl hybrid it can legit beat genesis
Wow really? I have a 20 X3 M40i and 22 GLC43 but have had a 17 Macan S and 21 SQ5 in the past. But judging from the gap in the video , I don't think the other cars would be that much slower. I will say that the SQ5 is the least exciting of the bunch.
I currently have a 20 X3 M40i and a 22 GLC43. I've also had a 17 Macan S and 21 SQ5. I wonder how the GV70 would do against the SQ5 as it's the lowest on HP in this "sporty crossover" class @ 349HP.
Macan S vs x3? Which do you prefer?
He already did an SQ5/GV70 video.
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@@geforce5591 The Macan S was a great car but it's pretty cramped for a SUV. Also, the 2017 Macan S I had only had 335HP at the time, I think the new Macan S inherited the old GTS motor so it's got more power now. Between the Macan and the M40i, I choose the M40i. It just does a whole lot more overall. It drives great, sounds great, great tech and utility. Believe me, I lease 2 cars at a time every 3 years through my company so I'm fortunate enough to drive a lot of cool cars 3 years at a time. If I had to choose 1 car, it would be the X3 M40i.
It already beat the sq5 on this channel.
The GV70 3.5 does have launch control & sports +2 you didn't use either, but you used it in the BMW
In Australia, GV 70 3.5 and X3 m40 priced at quite close. Normal buyer definitely will choose X3 over GV70. Unless Genesis offer 20-30% promotion over their price but in officially Hyundai Australia doesn't offer any discount on Genesis brand car (mentioned in their webpage, but real practice in dealership, idk)
Cool race. Which one wins the race to the repair shop? I'll bet it's neck and neck.
BMW ME ALL DAY ! I can’t wait till I take delivery of my x3M40i in December!
BMW always rates their engines output at the minimum they will perform. so they will always be more powerful than the spec sheet suggests, to which they will always get the bragging rights.
The M40i puts the power down so nicely.
Not sure why but BMW always totally sandbags their power numbers. I have a 2022 X5 and it's fast, much faster than the power numbers would suggest. Here the Genesis had .5 liter bigger engine and negligible weight difference but the BMW just smoked it.
Good video I heard that the X3 M40 suspension is very hard not comfortable. Can you do this X3 against an Amg in this class
Funny enough, C&D just posted a 3 way showdown review between these 2 and the RX350.
First saw Genesis GV70 and we were pretty much decided. Just for formality went and saw BMW X3 next but there was no comparison. GV70 is beauty from outside and inside.
Couldn't agree more
M40i is the quickest BMW non M SUV.
Damn that's really quick
That nestle 24 pack water bottles made a difference.
Yeah. The M40i with that sweet B58 is peerless in its class. Next.
Love it! Genesis isn’t even close
Take both to the dyno to see if bmw put less HP in the specs
How does the Ford Explorer ST with the 3L twin turbo compare to these SUV's that you're testing? Thanks for the videos!
It is more expensive to buy X3 M40i, but you will still choose BMW。
b58 is probably making 382HP to the wheels lol.
Awesome video. Thank you. Good to see this comparison. Everyone says buy genesis over bmw but glad I bought an X3 M40i
I wouldn't say this is a walk of shame, because this is the outcome that literally EVERYONE expected. It's like If a college basketball player lost to an NBA player 1-on-1. It'd only be a walk of shame if the Genesis/college player won.
Now you already know how this would turn out the b58 engine is one of the best engines. Bmw makes
You can hear the quality difference in motors right off the bat lol
Genesis is to give you a discount version of a BMW like performance. However it (in all car magazines) falls just short all the time. They come the closest to BMW because at Kia/Hyundai, they hired the former BMW engineers to build their performance cars like the Stinger and the G70 to give them a similar experience. They were designed to compete on the price point and I think they do overall quite well as the BMW engineers working in Korea did their jobs well.
seems like every car you drive loses.... maybe it's the driver
Is there any car out there that can actually race a BMW?
I would like to see the actual price differences, which is a definite factor when purchasing a new vehicle. If they were the same price, no brained. But if your talking another 20 grand…
the only thing good about watching you in that g80 was looking at that nice tag monaco your wearing lol!
The b58 is bulletproof, nuff said…
I love my X3 B58.
LOVE IT!
Can you pitch the Audi Q5 against the BMW X3
The SQ5 lost to the GV70 so there is no point.
To be fair...the X3 is like $56,000 thr GV70 is $42,000. ..the top of the line GV70 would get you at a price point of $57K.
When there is a $5-$10K+ price difference in cars, the expectation is higher for the more $$$$ car.
I can appreciate Genesis, they came into the car game copying everyone, but then flipped it once they knew that the car came is WIDE open. They have that hunger to be the best like Toyota/Honda/Infinity/Acura when they first hit the car scene.
How are they copying everyone my goodness
I'm not sure where you're getting the $$$ #'s. But the X3 M40i starts at $57,800, while the G70 3.5T starts at $53,100. Maybe you meant G70 starts at $52000
I love my X3 M40i....didn't even consider a Genesis or Volvo. The X3 M40i is quicker than the GLC43 and way more practical than the Macan. It's the perfect all rounder without being too bulky and yet roomy and quick!
I just ordered a 23 X3M40i 2 weeks ago with high performance wheels/tires and with the M sport diff. I test drove a 2020 GLC43 for a week an I was impressed , but haven’t driven a x3M40i. Isn’t that crazy lol , but I chose the BMW because Merc was charging 10k over MSRP 😵💫🥴. So the BMW is faster than the GLC 43? Good! I hoped it was. The GLC 43 didn’t even come with a standard pano roof..for that price point I’ll pass, but the GLC did have a beautiful colorful digital dash cluster display which I love along with the auto changing ambient lighting, the red seat belts and the nice steering wheel w amg unit controls
@@Mr.Lambert777 Nice! That also swayed me...the Merc option packs are akward and the BMW packs are way better configured/mixed. My dad has a GLC diesel which I saw and drove a number of times, so I really noticed the difference in driving dynamics with the X3. Great choice!
Any one can make luxury cars now a days but not every one can make powerful cars 👍
Wow. That was crazy.
Man that b58 definitely puts in work. Only thing in debate is wether it will b reliable definitely a gem of an engine though
It’s been out since 2015. It’s reliable.
@@davidalenick1246 very reliable lol
Une image vaut mille mots la performance coréenne est ordinaire pour la puissance annoncée et pratiquement au même prix. BMW #1
The last gen m340i wouldve been a closer race since it has 50 less hp. This new gen is comparable to a macan gts and glc 63.
How about the GV70 2.5 vs BMW X3 30i
It will be the same results you see here! Bmw engines are underrated. Bmw 4cyl aren’t slow either……
@@Mr.Lambert777 …I wouldn’t be so sure about that … Car and Driver ran the GV-70 2.5 1/4 mile in 14.4 and 0-60 in 5.6; it ran the BMW 30i 1/4 mile in 14.9 and 0-60 in 6.2.
@@g.p.courtney8536 hmm interesting, well I am like you, lets see it in a real world testing like this! I have a 23 X3M40i. It claims quarter mile time in 12.8 but seen vids of it in stock form doing it in 12.4ish
From BMW'S website description.........
"The 3.0-liter BMW M TwinPower Turbo inline 6-cylinder engine includes new 48V mild-hybrid technology for more efficient operation and enhanced acceleration.".......
It's a hybrid.......not a fair comparison
More power ,better engine, better transmission
Saw that win coming
But I would still take the gv70 as my daily
Why?
@@88hemoglobin I drove both cars and I found the genesis to have the nicer interior and more comfortable.
Much easier infotainment systems to use , it's also less expensive while having more features so you got much more for the money. And the Rader cruise control system is just lfar better when using it on the freeway. And then you have the looks whenever that car passes bye people break their necks but when that BMW passes no one even notices.
Please we want new racing for k5🚶🏻♀️
Saw this coming lol
I think Genesis is trying to go the angle of refined luxury vs. BMW's angle of best in class engine & transmission
Going off of tech, comfort, quality, and design, the Genesis wins hands down in my opinion
Yep, if requirement is drag racing then maybe get BMW. If you want everyday head turning beauty, comfort, luxury then get Genesis
You put the pounds the same for both cars by the way
These are compact SUVs. For the features and the price of the GV70 and extra cash in my pocket. Genesis takes it all day vs BMW
As if there were any doubts... Genesis is "luxury" first, the only somewhat fun car they have is g70.