This why I love this game's dialogue suddenly you stop seeing thoughts as thoughts and start seeing them as characters with their own strengths and flaws
Love if you fail a rhetoric skill check against Titus (the one you can pretend to play a fiddle) if you tell him that the options don´t seem good rhetoric insults you. After that in my playthrough Suggestion: why is Goldmouth mistreating him? Drama: Don´t know...chose the one with the fiddle, and if you already did do it again.
I love Volition. It actually has a few big failures (as in, to help Harry, not just rolls) in the game, such as when you're trying to pitch art exhibition titles to Mega Rich Light-Bending Guy. Volition is just too averse to bullshit to come up with good names and if you listen to it, you'll be rejected and miss out on big money. You need Conceptualization for that 😉
I always loved the "Oh MY GOD!" response option xD. It's just like... I'm half amnesiac, ALL I have to go on is you voices and the advice you give me... and you're telling me their all shit right now!?
One aspect of the skill system that was so cool was that having super high points in one skill or another would accentuate the more negative qualities of that skill. there were a couple instances where having high encyclopedia just made harry into a know it all dick and it wasn’t helpful.
My conceptualisation was so high that when I tried to get the paintbrush from Cindy, my idea was too detailed and high concept that she didn’t want to give me the brush
After I finish this game I totally got to play It again in a more "unbalanced" way to see this stuff I'm on day 3 and my stats are... Well, I'm decent 3/4 at EVERYTHING excluding my boddy (but somehow I knocked measurehead with 2 points on phisyc)
@@nekole Oh. My. God. “The contact Mike *info dump*”??? Contact Mike is an inspiration. A 5000-1 underdog who won by sheer willpower alone. You downplaying how inspirational Contact Mike is says more about you than Encyclopedia says about him. You should try to be more like Contact Mike.
It happens if you take the check on the first round without leaving the conversation. You can take him aside to get his impressions, and when you've spoken to him, come to the conclusion he's also compromised.
And is a major hint that Volition is actually compromised itself. As if you know about Kim, you'll know it'd be pretty hard to use "Feminine wiles" to compromise him.
*22:38* "Officer?" ... "Don't worry, it's only been four to five seconds" *22:48**, literally 10 minutes of silent staring later* "Miss, are you manipulating me?"
I love how volition is so convinced that it's right after this that it's almost compromised in the other direction. Being 100% sure that Klaasje lied about everything and that you should arrest her
I think volition is just trying to protect a wounded heart. The last time Harry trusted a wömen there was a lot of emotional damage being done. I think that's why it might be overprotective now.
@@excalibur2772 I mean, she didn't. If you turn her in, a high Shivers check, which never lies, heavily implies that she dies in custody, and she's objectively not guilty of the murder. She lied about some stuff, but not about being hunted.
@coolguyjki I mean obviously she told the truth at times but Volition isn't wrong in saying she essentially lied about everything about her identity. It's clear she is being hunted but "innocence" is a little much to just accept
@@excalibur2772 In all fairness, I don't think she's necessarily innocent either, but she's innocent of the crime we're investigating and that's what matters. Think about it this way -- suspicion that she may have committed other crimes is fair, but it's not a justification for arrest, and lying about who you are isn't what I'd call probable cause. Industrial Espionage and potentially sabotage can be pretty severe crimes, but if it's between a death sentence and letting her go, I think mercy is preferable, whether she's a pretty girl or not.
You could get through a passive Suggestion check during this dialogue where he calls Volition a "boring condom". Had me on the floor when it happened 💀
@@half.blight Volition’s compromised in the *other* direction. It’s so mad at the effect she’s having on you that it’s pushing mindlessly to arrest her on the spot instead of determining whether that’s the best course of action right now.
@@writersblock7260 Volition literally say it is your choice, and when Drama says you made a mistake (by letting her go) Volition says "Perhaps, perhaps not, mercy is never a complete mistake" or something along those lines
@@pato6738 Does he? in my game I remember getting a through after leaving the whirling once I passed the logic check to find where Ruby is, in it Volition is *pissed* and suggests you should go up to the roof and arrest her
@@snekkoheckko4466 I had that. He isn't pissed, he points out how everyone lead the conversation towards Ruby and ignore Klassje, even yourself. Since you literally must omit information to lead towards Ruby, he is literally righr
But she was. My Authority, Drama, and Logic were all screaming at her saying **Arrest her** I only didn't because I felt that it was too soon to do anything. I wanted to explore more.
This and the conversation with the plain woman about her husband in her apartment are the 2 that pulled me in the most. And it’s because of these wonderful bumbling idiots in my head.
it was quite intriguing with full psyche and second full intelligence- suddenly, your most trusted skillset is telling you your second most trusted skillset is wrong in its ways?
There is somekind of "mandela effect" that people think Volition is "Compromised in the other direction" when he is actually not, or they just mistake Volition with Drama? I literally played yesterday and when Drama loss his shit volition said "Relax, don´t try to overcompensate now, just ask questions", when its time to chose, Volition says "It is your choice, you sit at the crown of your mind" and I chose to not arrest her so Drama said "This will be a mistake sire" and Volition replied "Perhaps...perhaps not, mercy is never a complete mistake" the only "mistake" Volition makes is insinuating perhaps the part about making the call was a lie, which is a fair mistake since Klasjee basically give half truths about everything else. But what can you expect? most of the fandom could be compromised
I didn't actually try the Volition check, since my Drama was much higher. I passed that one and very quickly my entire mind and psyche was furious. Furious at Klaasaje. Furious at her lies. Furious that they believed her, and they wanted her nailed to the wall for her crimes. Then at the last moment Authority literally said "Let her go, she gave a really good tip. Plus, she's hot."
Half Light urging against violence sold the voices as being compromised more than Electrochemistry did.
Lol at the drama check fail and the acknowledgement of it. So good. This game was a nightmare to program.
This why I love this game's dialogue suddenly you stop seeing thoughts as thoughts and start seeing them as characters with their own strengths and flaws
I've always described the "skills" as characters in your party. and the more points the more they speak up. good or bad.
Love if you fail a rhetoric skill check against Titus (the one you can pretend to play a fiddle) if you tell him that the options don´t seem good rhetoric insults you.
After that in my playthrough
Suggestion: why is Goldmouth mistreating him?
Drama: Don´t know...chose the one with the fiddle, and if you already did do it again.
i'm imagining Volition tying all the other skills to a couch like that scene in The Thing
At least Volition always got your back ✊
Volition is the Kim Kitsuragi in you. Motivation, Temperance, Self-Discipline.
I love Volition. It actually has a few big failures (as in, to help Harry, not just rolls) in the game, such as when you're trying to pitch art exhibition titles to Mega Rich Light-Bending Guy. Volition is just too averse to bullshit to come up with good names and if you listen to it, you'll be rejected and miss out on big money. You need Conceptualization for that 😉
If anything though, Volition goes too far in the other direction where it tries to get you to overlook reasonable suspicion being cast on Ruby
@@KlavinVolition wasn't wrong though
Its good but its downside is it can get too selfish.
I always loved the "Oh MY GOD!" response option xD. It's just like... I'm half amnesiac, ALL I have to go on is you voices and the advice you give me... and you're telling me their all shit right now!?
One aspect of the skill system that was so cool was that having super high points in one skill or another would accentuate the more negative qualities of that skill. there were a couple instances where having high encyclopedia just made harry into a know it all dick and it wasn’t helpful.
My conceptualisation was so high that when I tried to get the paintbrush from Cindy, my idea was too detailed and high concept that she didn’t want to give me the brush
After I finish this game I totally got to play It again in a more "unbalanced" way to see this stuff
I'm on day 3 and my stats are... Well, I'm decent 3/4 at EVERYTHING excluding my boddy (but somehow I knocked measurehead with 2 points on phisyc)
are you taking about the contact mike info dump
@@nekole
Oh. My. God. “The contact Mike *info dump*”??? Contact Mike is an inspiration. A 5000-1 underdog who won by sheer willpower alone. You downplaying how inspirational Contact Mike is says more about you than Encyclopedia says about him. You should try to be more like Contact Mike.
@@legendarytat8278 dude fuck contact mike
It didn't happen in this scene, but volition can say "Kim might be compromised too"
Truly the most terrifying thought imaginable
It happens if you take the check on the first round without leaving the conversation. You can take him aside to get his impressions, and when you've spoken to him, come to the conclusion he's also compromised.
@@Adanu191 thanks!
And is a major hint that Volition is actually compromised itself. As if you know about Kim, you'll know it'd be pretty hard to use "Feminine wiles" to compromise him.
@@NEEDbacon oooh this is an interesting interpretation! I never considered that! It makes sense
I loved this moment when it happened. Poor Drama realizing he's been played too was great
*22:38*
"Officer?"
...
"Don't worry, it's only been four to five seconds"
*22:48**, literally 10 minutes of silent staring later*
"Miss, are you manipulating me?"
I love how volition is so convinced that it's right after this that it's almost compromised in the other direction. Being 100% sure that Klaasje lied about everything and that you should arrest her
I think volition is just trying to protect a wounded heart. The last time Harry trusted a wömen there was a lot of emotional damage being done. I think that's why it might be overprotective now.
She did though lol
@@excalibur2772 I mean, she didn't. If you turn her in, a high Shivers check, which never lies, heavily implies that she dies in custody, and she's objectively not guilty of the murder. She lied about some stuff, but not about being hunted.
@coolguyjki I mean obviously she told the truth at times but Volition isn't wrong in saying she essentially lied about everything about her identity. It's clear she is being hunted but "innocence" is a little much to just accept
@@excalibur2772 In all fairness, I don't think she's necessarily innocent either, but she's innocent of the crime we're investigating and that's what matters. Think about it this way -- suspicion that she may have committed other crimes is fair, but it's not a justification for arrest, and lying about who you are isn't what I'd call probable cause. Industrial Espionage and potentially sabotage can be pretty severe crimes, but if it's between a death sentence and letting her go, I think mercy is preferable, whether she's a pretty girl or not.
You could get through a passive Suggestion check during this dialogue where he calls Volition a "boring condom". Had me on the floor when it happened 💀
holy shit, the voice acting in The Final Cut is miles better. makes me glad I hadn't played it sooner.
That moment when you realize volition itself is also somewhat compromised lol
How?
@@half.blight Volition’s compromised in the *other* direction. It’s so mad at the effect she’s having on you that it’s pushing mindlessly to arrest her on the spot instead of determining whether that’s the best course of action right now.
@@writersblock7260 Volition literally say it is your choice, and when Drama says you made a mistake (by letting her go) Volition says "Perhaps, perhaps not, mercy is never a complete mistake" or something along those lines
@@pato6738 Does he? in my game I remember getting a through after leaving the whirling once I passed the logic check to find where Ruby is, in it Volition is *pissed* and suggests you should go up to the roof and arrest her
@@snekkoheckko4466 I had that. He isn't pissed, he points out how everyone lead the conversation towards Ruby and ignore Klassje, even yourself. Since you literally must omit information to lead towards Ruby, he is literally righr
My favourite dialogue from the game
ahhh you needed your drama stat to be higher to get that viewpoint on this convo as well, it's hilarious
Drama was my signature skill and I had it maxed at this point. This scene hit like a ton of bricks.
Always love the detail with saying "its only been 4 seconds"
Meaning we can meassure just how fast Harry is at thinking
But she was.
My Authority, Drama, and Logic were all screaming at her saying **Arrest her**
I only didn't because I felt that it was too soon to do anything. I wanted to explore more.
Your Curiosity is compromised too then
I didn't because Kim would've left for the day and I would've been sad and alone again :(
Your Inland Empire was compromised irl.
That's an abuse of power something men need to control even outside of a beautiful woman playing them like a fool.
i didn't cuz i believed her that she'd be in very deep trouble if she was on public records- like they'd kill her, and i didn't want people killed
I could literally feel myself becoming compromised as this went on
I like to imagine Volition and Electrochemistry function as the shoulder angel and devil in most situations
Volition earned that crown.
Playing a high psych low intellect build is crazy just volition loves to just lambast the other stats
The skills bickering is so funny
She's beautiful......"I have bad news for you."
This and the conversation with the plain woman about her husband in her apartment are the 2 that pulled me in the most. And it’s because of these wonderful bumbling idiots in my head.
One of my favorite moments in my first playthrough when all my intellect skills were bamboozled.
Playing a full psyche low intelligence build with Volition being the ring-leader trying to keep the other skills together is just (chef's kiss).
it was quite intriguing with full psyche and second full intelligence- suddenly, your most trusted skillset is telling you your second most trusted skillset is wrong in its ways?
Aint nobody got me like Volition got me
One of the moments when skills work together
In a great game it takes a lot to have such a standout moment like this one. Stellar writing, 11/10
You see one pretty lady and this is what happens within five seconds
Huh, rhetoric chimed in on mine. And they couldn't tell if he was compromised or not.
I think it's safe to say that half light remained completely uncompromised.
This was the moment that I knew I had to hard spec into Volition. If no one got me, I know Volition got me ✌️
Harry.... _REALLY_ likes smokers, doesn't he?
made me lol!
Blud fought with himself for half an hour (me)
Absolutely top notch.
Wow I didn;t even know this can happen with other skills. It was drama and logic for me...
Turns out, he wasn't the only one compromised
This was one of my favourite interactions in this whole game! Volition stays true!
this is why volition is one of my favorites
There is somekind of "mandela effect" that people think Volition is "Compromised in the other direction" when he is actually not, or they just mistake Volition with Drama? I literally played yesterday and when Drama loss his shit volition said "Relax, don´t try to overcompensate now, just ask questions", when its time to chose, Volition says "It is your choice, you sit at the crown of your mind" and I chose to not arrest her so Drama said "This will be a mistake sire" and Volition replied "Perhaps...perhaps not, mercy is never a complete mistake" the only "mistake" Volition makes is insinuating perhaps the part about making the call was a lie, which is a fair mistake since Klasjee basically give half truths about everything else.
But what can you expect? most of the fandom could be compromised
How the fuck do I turn on my own Volition
I didn't actually try the Volition check, since my Drama was much higher. I passed that one and very quickly my entire mind and psyche was furious. Furious at Klaasaje. Furious at her lies. Furious that they believed her, and they wanted her nailed to the wall for her crimes.
Then at the last moment Authority literally said "Let her go, she gave a really good tip. Plus, she's hot."
This is my favourite scene from the game 😭
Interesting, this scene played out differently in my playthrough. All the Psy skill checks chimed in but Half Light never popped up.
I loved this bit. Isn't every man compromised at some point
huh, that's interesting, your drama skill is so low he just doesn't interject
I fucking loved this part so much
I CANT ESCAPE
It must be tense for her to stand in front of two policemen watching her smoke in silence for minutes.
10 minutes of awkward silence later
"Miss, are you manipulating me?"
I loved this scene. Unfortunately Volition made me so distrustful of klaasje that I ended up arresting her
Had this experience in real life. Not good.