Star Fox Zero: An EXTREMELY Critical Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2016
- This is a review for Star Fox Zero on the Nintendo Wii U. Wooooow golly gosh, I do not like this game.
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Of course it's less than Starfox 64. This is Starfox Zero. It's 64 less than 64.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Lol thats great!
So the real solution to the star fox problem is in order to release a new star fox game on the Nintendo switch, and then call that game star fox infinity
That's why I did never update my Windows 2000. Fuck Microsoft trying to rip me off with Windows 10.
No wonder why the xbox one is worse than the xbox 360.
inb4 "You only hate it because you suck at it!"
You're absolutely right that I suck at it, but there are plenty of games that I suck at and still think are fun. And if I can play all the way through a game multiple times and it still doesn't "click," I don't think it's unreasonable to eventually throw up my hands and decide that it's just not a fun game.
im glad someone actually sees it, thx arlo
+Fufunu The Lad the plot is also not as I thought sorry I didn't include that in my comment
+Arlo lately nintendo is making more and more mistake we are all going to see nintendo become Sega
+Phillip James Clearman it wouldn't help. The levels are designed around having to use motion controls.
and I hate it.
+Arlo I was one of the few people apparently that was good at the game. I had no trouble with the controls, I picked it up instantly. I loved the game, but it was short.
I'm watching a Muppet review video games...
My life is complete.
*Puppet
Doctor Whooo? *Muppet
Muppet was a term invented by well Muppets but its just a way of differentiating them from regular puppets
Its sesame street not muppets
James Russell *trumpet
So much hype for Star Fox Zero. It's like that Simpsons episode where Bart and Lisa where dumped into a shithole of a summer camp and stayed because they were promised to see Krusty in person, but instead they get a crude impersonator.
That episode was a classic.
"I am sooo Crunchy the Clown!"
*burp
For a second there, I thought that you were bashing one of my favorite episodes of all time. But now I get it lolol.
Or krabby land from sponge bob
I didn’t like that episode
One thing that makes me absolutely livid about this game is how quickly people will say "take the time to get used to the controls and then you'll like the game", but I have been saying the same thing for literally YEARS about Star Fox Assault and its on foot ground missions. The controls do take a bit to get used to, sure, but once you get the hang of them, the missions are extremely fun. Assault gets no love, despite it being one of the few games in the series that actually expanded the Star Fox universe.
Assault is actually my favorite Star Fox game. So underrated
@@torkdrift
I'm right in between both you guys I absolutely agree with your controls point. Nevertheless I like assault too
The ground missions in Starfox Assault aren't that frustrating if you try switching to dual analog control.
As mich as I love TGX Game Reviews for how analytical, hilarious (words cannot even describe how funny he can be at best), unpredictably creative and unbiased (for the most part, more on that now) he can be, there is one reason why he’s ALMOST one of my favourite TH-camrs. He can be a hypocrite by slamming great games for having “cynical nostalgia” (aka the “Twinsanity Effect”) like Retro City Rampage, Mega Man 9 & 10, Crash Bandicoot N-Sane Trilogy and Spyro: Reignited Trilogy, yet even when he was aware of the problem with Star Fox Zero in his review of that game (which is that instead of naturally evolve the franchise like Star Fox Assault Al the best game in the franchise since Star Fox 64, it regressed into a rehash of Star Fox 64, and no, it didn’t even come up with its own story like he said!), he would compare haters of motion controls to babies, and I mean those that use their age as an excuse to do such annoying things like cry all the time even if he gets what he wants!!!! God, SFZ, like Star Fox Command, is overrated because people just love to hate on a perfectly valid review like this instead of realize that as many great things as Nintendo can do, they can also screw up a lot of the time!
Eh? Sorry you lost me at "extremely fun." When I played those "extremely fun" missions, they consisted of: find enemy respond devices and destroy them, and sometimes break away to destroy airborne enemies before enemy bar fills up. Mission Accomplished! Now do the extract same thing in a different level, perhaps this time with an ally whose AI is only capable of moving within a contained proximity and shooting any baddies that come into said proximity, and maybe we'll reward you with a "TURRENT SECTION!" Whoopie! And good luck if your doing that on a level with multiple floors since the radar becomes really unhelpful trying find respond devices, especially if you have to navigate multiple confusing rooms just to find some way to ascend/descend "cough" Aparoid Homeworld "cough." And why do the in-game models and on foot levels look worse than Star Fox Adventure, a game that came three years prior? And if the graphics are bad, why do the on all-range mode sections drop to 30 frames per second when the on-rails parts perfectly achieve a flawless 60 frames? Even if you learn to TOLERATE (not love) both the way-overly sensitive aiming and movement while on foot and the plot that tricked people into thinking it was smarter and darker than it actually was (spoiler, everybody lives!), the main campaign is over in a couple hours after a mere 10 missions with no branching paths.
There's only two redeeming parts of the game for me. One of these is the OST, which features great remixes of 64's as well as solid original tracks (I do admit I especially like how the menu music starts up). The other is the multiplayer which I will admit is vastly superior than 64's even. All the loads of options, weapons, and vehicles make it a blast even if the problems in the campaign persist through here too, because you only have to deal with 1-3 other players instead of hoards of mindless baddies that overcrowd the levels. This is the only reason I kept the game, even if I had to suffer the campaign to unlock everything, and is what I feel really the only reason people have fond memories of this game. Oh yeah, you can also unlock Xevious... it's not the arcade version, just the NES port, but it's still alright.
These are just my opinions, though. You have different opinions. You may even like the stuff I hated. I respect that, more power to you. I WILL say: I think Star Fox Assault is a flawed but great multiplayer game, but an awful single-player game (64's campaign mode has yet to be topped). At least that is more than I can say for Zero, which is just a awful solo-player travesty.
They should of made it a Prequel, where you played as James Mccloud.
+ZeddtheVHSotaku Nah, that should've been the 3DS one instead of them just forcing a cringey remake...only to reboot the series next game. That would've made for a great jumping on point for new fans as well as give old fans some new content. Unfortunately, Nintendo has no idea what to do with this series and have basically been using it as a means to promote hardware over actual game play ever since Command.
Also, I just realized I'm talking to Lord Zedd in a fedora, holy shit.
Clyde (Read in Lord Zedd's voice) I'm a Nintendo Fan boy but they piss me off at times, also It's A PIMP HAT YOU FOOL!!!
ZeddtheVHSotaku
I'mSorryPleaseDon'tHitMe *cowers in terror*
+ZeddtheVHSotaku How about a sequel, where MARCUS MCCLOUD is the main character, and the villain is an arctic fox (dressed in somewhat of a Darth Vader costume) who betrayed the lylat system after fighting for it loyally!
Or a sequel with Marcus. Combine ALL of Command's
"This game pretends to be a Star Fox game, but its really not. Why? Becuase Star Fox and Star Fox 64 were intuitive and fun, this is just a shadow of the two games. It looks like it, but it's worlds apart."
So, basically it's like the PPG reboot.
Absolutely nailed it.
"If I'm being entirely honest, I did not even have ONE second of fun with this game. It was a chore from start to finish." With that opinion in mind, I was expecting a 1 out of 7, I wonder where that extra point came from considering how he hardly said anything positive about this.
Seems like a real legit review tho, this game definitely looks more than disappointing.
I've gotten this question a lot, so I guess I'll finally answer, haha.
I did hate the game, but I could recognize that there was at least a mediocre game underneath the surface. The graphics weren't good at all, but they weren't offensively bad. Basically a 1 is reserved for a game with effectively no redeeming qualities whatsoever, a game that's purely broken garbage. Star Fox Zero, while not fun in the slightest to me, was the next step above that. Soon I want to do a video explaining my review system, so this sort of thing will be talked about there.
Like No Man's Sky! :p
Arlo hey Arlo, what do you think about Starfox assault? Is it better than zero or command?
The music was a redeeming factor.
I'm guessing the extra point was that minus the two new concepts yeah it was a repeat of the series, but that's only bad for fans of the series while as a game itself it probably isn't too bad
This is the first time I watched a negative review and thought "Oh man... I feel so bad for the critic. The dude actually wanted to enjoy it and didn't get what he deserved" :(
Stay strong, Arlo. We love you!
As much as I disagree, Arlo, this is truly refreshing! You're a Nintendo fan through and through, but when they make poor decisions, or make games that you don't agree with, you SHOW it!
You're a fan, but you're not a fanboy. That's something to be admired!
Maybe they'll do an update that allows you to play with a Pro Controller, eh? I dunno.
SuperSonic68 Nah bro, it was the worst Star fox to date, even worse than Adventures and Command.
Why do you disagree im intrested
I would like a conventional controller port of this game for the Switch.
Im just wondering what made it higher than a 1?
haha an update that allows you to play with a pro controller? nah, that would have made the game too easy to play on emulator! nintendo's all about shoehorning in foreign control schemes and bizarre proprietary input methods now, it's one of the main tactics in their war on emulation lol
StarFox Assault... New main boss, new story. Why do people forget that game.. IMHO it was really fun! - ~ -''
SamVision Misguided? I feel like you just used that word cause you recently heard or learned it. XD
SamVision Rude. My mother has cancer bro...
I completely agree Assault stands out among all the others as my favorite to me. And I don't care what people think about the ground missions I personally found the last level or two of the air stuff more annoying than any ground mission but really that game isn't hard to me and personally, nothing in the game really lowered it's replayability. There are tons of unlocks, multiple difficulties, and the best multiplayer I've ever played on a console game.
You're an ass.
MegamanElric16 Excuse you?
This game made me love Star Fox Assault even more honestly!
Spidertendo Starfox Assault is the best imo, love 64 but still, Assault tried something new
Thank you, I thought I was the only one!
I don't believe anyone who even _attempts_ to argue that this control scheme is better once you get used to it. Wanna know why?
Because they intentionally nerfed the main screen. If the new control scheme were actually better, they could've made the main screen have an accurate aiming system like the other games and then _people would have used the game pad view on their own_. But instead, they intentionally made it so that aiming is useless on the main screen to _force_ people to use the game pad view.
+SuperZez I think the reason why the reticle feels so "off" is that laser shots go a lot farther in this game, and enemy placements are a lot farther away as well.
Creating a solution to a problem you (as the developer) made up seems like poor game design. Like rock Pikmin, which could easily be replaced by purple Pikmin. However, flying Pikmin were a good addition because it solved a problem that already existed in the world normally, transporting goods over bridges/water/enemies.
Aiming is not useless at all on the main screen. Clearly you haven't played the game. Sick of these BS uniformed opinions.
I have played the game and I can confirm.
The controls on the main screen are absolute garbage.
+Excarius Can you clarify what you mean by "controls on the main screen"? There's only one way to control this game as it is displayed on 2 screens. You have to use the joystick, buttons and gyro all together in one control scheme. So you meant you think the control scheme is terrible...okay. Did you get good enough to get all the medals when you played it though? I just got the 370 hits medal on Corneria 2 after about 30 tries. It felt as rewarding as when I beat a game like Bloodborne. I think the controls are fine when you get better at them. OTOH I think the controls on foot in Star Fox Assault are terrible and unrewarding.
I feel sorry for the people who wasted their hard earned cash on big badass HD smart TV's only to play this game and find themselves being forced to stare at a low res 6.2 inch game pad screen about 50% of the time.
Also, even if it is a "reboot". Nintendo are really trying to remind the players about Starfox 64 (A much better game). Right down to the recycled plotline, quotes, music, characters and bosses. Why try to innovate when you can just use good ol' nostalgia to drive sales?
I'm gonna say it, but I thought Starfox Assault was a better game. At least it felt like an actual sequel and had a more compelling plot than this gimmicky rehashed garbage.
+Mark Haynes (Alvin-Earthworm) There's homages to their predecessors, like what Kirby often does with references to classic Kirby, and/or boss battles from older Kirby games, then there's revamping an older nostalgic memory to make it modernized in a positive way, like Pokémon Black 2 and White 2, and references to visiting older areas from previous games, like Pikmin 2 and 3 do on occasion. There's also taking archaic things or translation errors and turning them to jokes, like Kid Icarus Uprising. But then there's blatantly stealing only the things people LOVE, like Pokémon X/Y did. Star Fox Zero seems to be in the X/Y category, from the little I've seen. It references its predecessors, and tries to recycle them, but it loses what made it unique while trying to do so. Now, is it as bad as I found X/Y to be? Maybe not, but I'll find out someday. It can't be worse than Sticker Star... not in terms of homages, just in general, it can't be worse than Sticker Star.
***** I actually liked X/Y. At least it tried something new with the Mega Evolutions and has now grown out of the sprite artwork.
Starfox Zero was a lazy dispassionate gimmicky cash grab.
Mark Haynes
Eh, fair enough. I just felt X/Y was too reliant on the nostalgia factor from Gen 1, and Cyrus from Gen 4 when making the game. Mega Evolution is interesting in theory, but it was somewhat botched in its execution. Some are balanced, like Mega Absol, and some are down-right broken, like Mega Kangaskhan, and, of course, Mega Rayquaza. I hope Gen VII changes things up with Mega Evolution to make it more balanced. That, and X/Y had a pretty sucky after game, compared to its predecessors.
Still, I suppose Star Fox Zero seems like one of those "Good on paper, but executed terribly" types of games. The dual screen gameplay worked well for Kid Icarus Uprising, albeit taking time to get used to. For a game where you focus on two screens at once at the same exact time, it looks like literal hell to go through.
+Mark Haynes (Alvin-Earthworm) I freaking hate the dual screen mechanic. Thankfully I've learned to play the game without ever having to use it and I'm enjoying the game now, but that first playthrough was filled with more than its fair share of frustration. I can actually see why they chose to reboot the series. Assault left the story on a pretty good note, but Command's story was a complete train wreck. It pretty much took all the joy and fun out of the universe. After Command, I'm not surprised someone decided it was time to hit the reset button.
+Mark Haynes (Alvin-Earthworm) Okay I gotta agree with you there...Assault is a better game,hell Assault even had so many unlockables in multiplayer,Lylat Wars (Star Fox 64) is still a good game but it isn't my fav mostly because I wasn't too fond of the N64's controller
This is like the Paper Mario series all over again. A series loved by millions but Nintendo pays no attention to let alone respects.
Except Star Fox at least resembled Star Fox
+Ryan S. But it doesn't play like Star Fox.
Evil Trapezium Compared to the Sticker Star series, it certainly does
Ryan S. Oh yeah, I totally agree with that but Star Fox is still not Star Fox because of the shitty motion controls.
+MBCMechachu Nintendo didn't press F
The third game? I know Adventures is different, but why does everyone forget about Assault and Command?
Eezack1 Command really isn’t a mainline Star Fox game but yeah Assault is sadly forgotten...
Assault was an assault of mediocrity
@@maximsotsky2239
Sad part is
It's the second best game in the franchise.
That's really sad since 64 is SOOOOO AWESOME
Assault was cool. The dino level was so cool!
Hopping in the Arwing, pop out and stand top on it was so damn cool!
no, as in this is the 3rd game to cover the same story
You've at least gotta admit, the dedication to Iwata at the end of the credits was rather heartwarming
Finally a review that I 100% agree with! I wanted to love this game so bad but I just can't. It really is the most bizarre mix of shoehorned gamepad gimmicks with a coat of star fox 64 paint on top.
I don't know about the gameplay, since I don't have a Wii U, but I completely agree with you on them taking it too far with the nostalgia. 10 years since a new Star Fox game, and this is what Nintendo could come up with? You know the weirdest thing is? If I wanted to play a remake of 64, I could just play the 3DS version that came out a few years ago. Heck, I have it in my room.
I mean after the disastrous story of command on the DS this isn't to shocking to go back to the beginning. Besides it's been 10 years since Command so going back to basics was probably a good call since continuity isn't the best in this series. Also since many hated Assault and especially Adventures. The motion control stuff hell no that's just dumb and stupid but the story thing I kinda get especially since Star Fox isn't that big of a series. It's kinda one hit wonder with all it's other games having fans but never being too popular.
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It saddens me to say this, but I think miyamoto is passed his prime.... His constant push for innovation for innovations sake is what lead to abominations like sticker star and this. And his inability to come up with new innovations for F-zero is why we haven't gotten a new game in the series that desperately needs a new game. I'm kind of glad there isn't a new F-zero now that I think about it. Motion controls wouldn't work for that game.
Youre right. Miyamoto has so much respect that most people he works with are afraid to talk some sense into him. He's like George Lucas in that regard. BriHard has made an awesome video about this subject too. It's called "Is Miyamoto a Detriment to Nintendo?" Go look it up and sub to him, he makes great videos.
+PimDiffy I love how games where Miyamoto doesn't push his "innovation" are actually really good solid games. Dude needs to just let younger devs at Nintendo be creative so we can get more games like Splatoon.
+Wizard Dojo As does Super Mario 3D World
+Guardian Miyamoto actually had little to do with either of those games too.
I've been saying this forever
Odds are if you didn't like it Arlo, I wouldn't either. Thanks for being honest about how the game really is. Here's hoping Zelda doesn't suffer from the needless innovation that doomed Paper Mario and Starfox.
"innovation"
+Claudio Del Fierro Agreed. This is why we have this mess of a game and the new Paper Mario that looks like shit.
zelda will suck ass
+Claudio Del Fierro miyamoto gotta step down.
Eh, I'd rather have creative games than clone sequels like COD, GTA, etc.
At least we have Paper Mario Color Spl- *Sobs
5:30 Do people just forget about Assault's existence? Aside from the General Pepper Boss Fight, I have literally no issues with this game.
Same. Loved assault and my only gripes with it were that the singleplayer campaign could've been longer/given you more to do and the on-foot sections(landmaster is always awesome in my book though). Though, the multiplayer in that game was fantastic so it kind of makes up for that.
I think what they should have done is used conventional controls for the flight sections and improved on the ground sections (made them less tank-like)
The flying sections and story for Assault were spot on. It was much more linear than 64, but it was still a great game that I played a lot. The "out of the cockpit" sections were ok but noticably unpolished, and the controls were meh. The wing shooting sections were fun but also kind of irritating sometimes. I'm surprised so many people forget about Assault. It was a very worthy successor to 64 in my opinion. The aparoids were a very intimidating threat and awesome concept. No Andross needed. Starfox is the one series NOBODY wants Nintendo to reinvent, but the only one they can't stop trying to reinvent. It's really weird.
The flying sections in Assault was great but I felt like the majority of the time was in the on-ground sections and many of them were godawful. A couple were... okay but some were just plain bad. If you removed them all from the game then it'd be a great game but with them, I honestly just prefer 64.
Starfox Assault was my favorite Starfox game.
Star Fox Zero is an interesting game. Some people get to grips with the controls pretty quickly. And some people just haaaaate them.
But neither side understands the other. It's hard to imagine the controls being annoying because for that player they are not. And it's hard to imagine people liking the controls, when you absolutely hate them.
So it's a case of "well..I liked the controls and thus I loved the game" vs "well, I hated the controls and thus loathed the game".
So that's why you have two sides of people who just cannot agree because it's just so divisive. And that's where the game absolutely fails.
I love the game, I really love it, it's what I've been waiting for since 64. BUT, the fact the game is so divisive and inaccessible for a ton of people is really a problem. Nintendo games have always tried to be as accessible as possible, so to have a game like this is a bit anti-Nintendo.
+TheLonelyGoomba I completely agree with you.
This game seems like it is really only made for Star Fox veterans and not to get new customers into the franchise.
I agree.
+TheLonelyGoomba I don't understand why people who don't like the controls don't mention the select button.
Nintendo has been releasing a frightening amount of failures lately. It needs to stop.
Explodinator Let's hope that all of this happens in favor of NX getting many great games and it getting them at launch.
I really appreciate the type of humor in this review. Very friendly to the audience and how they feel, and no foul language. As much as I love cursing and sex jokes, it's very refreshing to see a review like this. It's like if the Muppets decided to review video games.
I must say Arlo, you and your character amazes me with the quality and content you put out. I love how child-friendly you seem yet you offer such good wisdom, kindness and fairness that even adults can and should learn from. Your content is still just as enjoyable as the other guy who might make reviews with lots of dirty jokes while you talk about it with the most level headed, clear mindset.
Maybe its because you and your personality already agrees with me that I think this way but it makes me happy to see someone actually critique a game properly and look at it and fairly dissect it. Even if you where not to like it, you'd turn around and say that "its alright if you do" and accept the fact and admit to the viewers that its great they can enjoy it, and see why they do as well. Such maturity and wisdom, or just how you put out things is not something i'd see from my other favorite youtubers and reviewers. Even your other videos have similar charm that just makes me smile, even if your talking bad 'bout something. I an actually stand to listen to you.
Sorry I don't really have much to add to Star Fox myself, but it was something I felt like i had to say.
I absolutely hate that they removed Krystal and took back Peppy tbh, sure they was it to be like Starfox 64, but they basicly just made ALL the progress the starfox team has made since 64 completely irrelevant. Adventures? Didn't happen. Command? Didn't happen. Even Assault which was a pretty darn good game appearently didn't happen. Because people begged for a straight up Starfox 64 follow up so they just.. I don't understand what even happened.
Fans complained and wanted SF to go back to his roots of only being in an Arwing. Nintendo did a good job with Assault, but people freaked out about Fox being on foot. A shame, because a more refind sequel would've been amazing. Assault is very fun, it's a shame people aren't open-minded about it.
Ray03595
I agree, Assault was a lot of fun , and I even liked the parts on ground :\
I wouldn't mind a sequel to Assault. I enjoyed that game quite a bit. I would want a new game to focus mostly on the Arwing and other vehicles though. An on foot mission here or there is fine, but I really do feel Star Fox is at its absolute best when the levels are on rails. As far as command goes though....I would be genuinely overjoyed if they completely removed that game from the canon altogether. I hated almost everything about the game; the controls, the levels, the story, and of course the endings. Really the only thing I liked about Command was how they allowed you to play as other characters besides Fox. That was cool and I like how all the ships had unique abilities.
DevilHunter1994
I COMPLETELY AGREE, SCREW COMMAND. Just starting the game off as a huge drama fest and everything you did felt horrible, because the game story was so dark toned and ugh. Hate it.
People don't know what entitled means. A customer who is paying money for a product has the right to complain.
"I'm going to eat a whole roasted chicken and cry." I'm dying.
"Even if this was a marked improvement over 64, this is the game we should've gotten **on the GameCube.**"
ASSAULT. Assault was on the GameCube and it was FANTASTIC and NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT and I cannot for the life of me figure out why. It had a new villain, decent story with character development for dang near everyone, an absolutely stellar soundtrack, while combining traditional gameplay AND ground based combat that was LITERALLY THIRD PERSON METROID PRIME, a game that everybody RAVES about and yet Assault gets shut out and treated like garbage because it's not 100% "traditional." God, this makes me so mad.
And battle modes? I used to bring Assault to sleepovers and we would ditch Melee, frigging MELEE, for Assault because it was that good. I have memories of shooting down my friends' Arwings with the rocket launcher, of one of my friends setting mines by the good weapons so we couldn't get at them, playing rock paper scissors to see who got to play as Falco... I could go on, but I won't. But I could.
Man, I miss being 14.
Facts bro Assault is one of my favorite games every it’s fucking amazing !
Assault is overrated af. Adventures is better.
It's amazing how angry Arlo looks in the thumbnail even though he's just a puppet with ping pong ball eyes.
Edmund Barker Who you calling a puppet
I wanna see this channel get huge, you are great man.
As somebody who immediately picked up the controls, and have absolutely loved everything I've gotten out of this game - I definitely recommend it, despite all of the negativity surrounding it. Sure, the controls are controversial, but I definitely recommend at least giving them a try, because this is one of my favorite Wii U games out there. And who knows, maybe you'll be as surprised as I was and enjoy it.
Cookie Monster? What happen to you?
+Aclipes64 This is his cousin - he was born by the name "Video Game Monster" but then he thought the name was too long so he slept thinking about it one night after the letter N and the number 64 (the letter and the number of the day), and that's when it hit him . . . . *ARLO*
Brett Walters Cool.
+Brett Walters thank you
Better things.
"15 years ago"
"Gamecube"
*COUGH*STARFOXASSUALT*Cough*
Nintendo can't evolve Starfox without Argonaut games.
If Platinum had full control of this game without Miyamoto meddling i'd be saying this game is the shit for sure. As it stands now the game is just alright.
I love how Star Fox Zero uses the Gamepad extremely well that's why I love this game I don't mind the motion controls at all
WiiManElite I mean I don't force myself but I can see why people don't like it...
WiiManElite What does Stockholm mean?
Wish Assault was remembered and expanded upon... Assault provided many cool concepts and stuff that more could've been done with... It's a shame that they just rehash 64 over and over...
I couldn't agree more, I want another starfox Assault LIKE game that expands and polishes its ideas. It's all right there
It's interesting to look back on this review in 2023, because based on this it's seems like people actually liked the game back then. I always thought this game was hated since launch. But yeah, in 2023 this game is considered to be awful.
Also, first time we see Patreon names in the outro, I think. Very cool!
Nobody liked the game at launch. Were you living under a rock or something?
@@tetermcanyone can like a game. And your wrong there were people who liked it at launch.
@@tetermcthe inconsistent learning curve makes you one of two people. Someone who likes it or someone who hates it.
Finally someone with some balls to tackle this miserable disappointment of a game.
Big huge blue balls.
+Ole Dandy Furry Trash Don't forget Jim F*cking Sterling, son. He also gave it a 2.
4:08 "Take away the two new things this game added to the series: the controls and the new vehicles, and what you're left with is a lesser version of Star Fox 64."
I'm glad you said this. The controls and the vehicles aren't even the main issue. Even for people that don't mind the controls and think the walker is awesome (including me), it's still a disappointment because everything about this screams "nostalgia cashgrab" and none of it seems like an attempt at a new Star Fox game. Even though I think this game is better than Assault, I still respect Assault more because it somewhat felt like its own game.
+Baga Jr I second that, the game suck at anything knew and at the same time is a carbon copy of Starfox 64 (Lylatwars for me).
For those defending the game's lack of a new story and new characters by calling it a nostalgic throwback, here's the deal : It isn't. The Oikonny boss fight in Assault was a nostalgic throwback (to the Andross boss fight). The Throwback Galaxy in Super Mario Galaxy 2 was a nostalgic throwback (to the same level in Super Mario 64). The various races in Mario Kart 8 are nostalgic throwbacks (to their respective other versions, with amazing modern graphics). Star Fox is just another "reboot" from Nintendo, with no REAL innovation.
Horse shit. I beat Zero and every game in the series. The controls, dual screens, walker transform, gyrowing, boss fights are all innovative.
+DarkSonic180 Riiight, except SF64 was not 60 FPS, did not have motion controls, did not have as many all range modes, did not have gyrocopter or walker transform, did not have the exact same roster of enemies and bosses (mix of old and new in SFZ), did not let you pick levels directly (on the original 64 version), did not have co-op mode, Andross fight is completely different, some of the medal challenges in Zero are harder than anything in 64 and objectively speaking the submarine level in 64 is the worse than anything else in the entire SF series, yet people act like 64 is perfect (I love 64 too, I grew up with the snes one and 64) but that Aquus level is just bad with horrible FPS drops, murky graphics and terrible sub controls, and boring boss. That level is worse than anything in SFZ. But yes, we get it, you really really dislike this game and keep commenting about it. How about now you focus on positive aspects of games you like and move on from this, as it's just a game you blatantly hate and you aren't adding any substance to the discussion.
yes, yes it is
+Chrono Logic
You could also enter enemy ships in star fox zero which you couldn't do in star fox 64. it was mostly outdoors with the only exception being Venom right near the end of the game in one playthrough.
well that doesn't mean it's not a throwback as really? it still is. just here it's more of a reboot
Dude, this is the first video from you I'm watching, but I just want to say I love the use of the puppet in your videos. It adds a nice touch, making your videos more entertaining and setting them apart from the rest of review channels. Plus you're pretty good at using the puppet. Not sure if being a puppeteer is something you want to do professionally, but you do a good job.
Miyamoto. Honestly, something needs to change with him. I feel he has way too much control and his ideas have been really bad. He ruined Paper Mario, forces awkward controls in games with no options, and really seems to push a gimmick, just so it has a gimmick with no real purpose. I'm not sure how much control he has over the next Zelda, but any involvement by him just worries me now.
He's way out of touch.
He ruined paper mario MY FAV GAME SERIES
+ZombiedWolf Miyamoto's barely had any involvement with Zelda games since Majora's Mask, so I don't think he';s going to have much involvement in Zelda U (or whatever you want to call it) either.
+Joseph Cross Boy I hope so. I just can't really trust that man anymore.
I also only brought it up because I remember he was there talking with Eiji Aonuma about the game that one time. Not sure if he was there just cause or he has some involvement.
ZombiedWolf Well, HE is the creator of Zelda so of course he's got to have some saying in the game, but when it comes to directing the project and make the decisions that are going to shape the game into form, Aonuma is the man who's calling the shots. And to be fair, it's not like all the decisions Miyamoto make are bad, like when he decided to make Metroid Prime in first person perspective, or when he designed the concepts for Pikmin and for Super Mario Galaxy. Guy can have some really neat and even brilliant ideas, I just wouldn't let him go too far or too crazy with them.
At first i was shocked that Arlo hated this game, but now i agree that the Star Fox series as been repeating Star Fox 64 and beating a dead horse ever since. This franchise deserves more.
Nintendo is very strange in how it handles its first party IP's. They say they always want to do something "new" with new entries into a series, but then do puzzling things like this. They knew people wanted a new Starfox game, but it's as if Miyamoto has finally run out of creativity with some of these titles. There's nothing wrong with a retro style arcade shooter, but as Arlo says that doesn't really shift units nowadays. Zero is just a 64 rehash with a gimmick of motion controls, in a weird way for Nintendo to desperately push the tablet as a key integral part of the experience; even though it's nothing but a hinderance.
I feel like I'm the ONLY person who remembers Starfox Assault.
Well, according to half of the comment section misinterpreting him saying " all three traditional StarFox games " as " the only StarFox games that currently exist ", I would HEAVILY disagree with that.
THERE IS A GOOD STAR FOX ON THE GAMECUBE! ITS STAR FOX ASSAULT AND YOU NEED TO PLAY IT!
cockpit view and profit
#ForksUp
This is the main way to play ladies and gents
+RZA36 I came away from this game feeling really satisfied. It's one of the most "video gamie" games I've played in a long while. I love all the stunts you can pull off after you've figured everything out.
Rayossan Yeah, I love the way the gyro makes you feel like you are in full control of the plane. The only vehicle that felt wonky to me was the walker. Other than that, I thought was easily a 8/10. I'm still playing it, 40 hours and counting. lol
RZA36 The Walker felt like playing Metroid Prime. Just lock on and fire away
"Trust your instinct from the cockpit view" thanks for reminding me to use motion control dad...
Regarding your comments about it being a clone of the original Star Fox...
The problem is, every time Nintendo tried to do something different with the game (not talking about Star Fox Adventures, that was just too extreme. Thinking more of Star Fox Assault), its been met with lukewarm or just straight up hateful response, people even going as far as to say that its not a real Star Fox game. It seems like everyone WANTED another Star Fox 64. So thats what Nintendo gave us.
With motion controls.
+JoeTheLumberjak Agreed and most people are either hating on it because of the controls or the fact that it's the same game, but give the controls some time and it plays just fine and the spin they put on this game gave it a fresh and new look to it. This game is good if you put the 64 game in the back of your mind and not in front.
Ummmm..... "Take away the two new things this game added to the series: the controls and the new vehicles, and what you're left with is a lesser version of Star Fox 64."
All 3? Did Arlo not know about Assault?! Dude..play Assault! Review it!
Adult? Hmm... I gotta go try that out.
I attach a gamecube controller to the Wii's hidden gamecube ports, insert the Star Fox Assault gamecube disc, and the game plays. The Wii plays gamecube games!
I know this is a really old comment, but he meant the third game to cover the war against Andross story.
@@solierafromtheultrareconsquad ah. Well, he could've said that. I do still wonder what he thinks of Assault though
@@Sephivoiceactor Nintendo Can't evolve Starfox without Argonaut games.
Personally I've just started playing the game and I'm really enjoying it. I'm not having that hard a time with it. Yes it's a bit awkward, but it hasn't been overwhelming to me personally. With that said....NEVER AGAIN NINTENDO! Yes I have been doing okay with it, but that's no guarantee that everyone else will have the same experience and even I would still have a much better time with a more standard control scheme. Zero has the kind of control scheme that might just click right away for some and for others it will take hours before things even start to get okay. Star Fox is supposed to be a fun on rails arcade shooter. You pick it up and just start playing. It shouldn't take an hour, or two hours or three hours, or four hours just to learn how to fly the damn ship. The challenge should come from within the levels themselves, not the controls. Sometimes there really is beauty in simplicity. Star Fox Zero felt like they were innovating for the sake of innovating and that's never a good thing. I just hope the polarizing response this game got doesn't spell death for the series. Star Fox is easily one of my favorite franchises in gaming. I'd hate to see it end.
Edit: Well I've been playing the game for a bit longer now and I've just made it to Andross. Previously I said the controls were a bit awkward, but not too bad. This was mainly because even though the game pad gave more accurate aiming, the early levels were pretty good at letting you use the game pad at your convenience, allowing you to eyeball most shots in the third person view. Now that I've played a few more levels and have seen how the game outright forces you to use the gamepad for many of the bosses, all I have to say is....WHAT WERE YOU THINKING MIYAMOTO!? Goddamn does this just feel awkward. Don't get me wrong. There's still a lot to like here. The level designs (aesthetically speaking) are some of the best in the series in my opinion and the on rails sections are an absolute blast to play, but whenever a boss shows up and I have to use the gamepad to aim, It's absolutely infuriating. Overall this still isn't my least favorite Star Fox game. That "honor" would go to Command, but I'd put this below Assault and definitely FAR below 64. Seriously Nintendo, never....ever....EVER AGAIN!
When you said you hate this game I instantly subscribed.
You seem like a positive person...
Lmao by the end of the video I kinda wish that he talked about what was actually good about the game though.
+VDM Roo that's because most people who don't like the game due to controls and review this game don't even mention anything good about the game, and there is plenty good about it. They just whine because they suck and can't multitask and can't learn a learning curve. It's just challenging due to game mechanics, it is not broken by any means.
Matt Hall
Every control scheme has to be introduced eventually. Otherwise it will all say the same.
+Matt Hall At least be grateful that Arlo didn't gave the game a 1/7, you fucking Nintendrone.
Am I in some sort of alternate universe where no one remembers that Star Fox: Assault exists (on the Gamecube!) and is an underrated gem, and a fantastic jumping-off point for a new-gen Star Fox game?
"All three traditional Starfox games..."
_Starfox Assault quietly crying in the corner, forgotten yet again._
I don't know if you eventually figured this out, but he meant traditional as in the story.
UUUSE YOOOOURRRR MOOOOTIONNN CONTROOOOOLSSS!!!!!
That's what annoys me with Zero, it's a reimagining of 64. they could've made a traditional Star Fox game with a new story, new worlds and new characters. it's been almost 10 years since Command and they seriously couldn't come up with anything new other than slapping on motion controls, making small changes to the story and Pepy being obsessed with the Barrel roll mem?. It's just so lazy, Zero could be the start to a new universe. but they could've done this such a long time ago.
Agreed, I mean why couldn't they have made a game that took place after Star Fox: Assault? That game wasn't perfect, but it was still a blast to play (plus I loved the addition of Krystal to the team). Just ignore the mess that was Star Fox: Command on the DS and think of something original! Or hell, take some concepts that DID work from Command if you're going to be lazy and package THAT into a new Star Fox game! Ugh, why Nintendo....
Zero is not a remake it is a reimagining. You are lieing.
@@nitrozeus6393 My comment is old but read it again.
@@jeremyknight9980 but star fox was never about the story. Are you playing star fox for the story.
@@nitrozeus6393 I play for both, if the game doesn't have a story why should I care what's happening and why should I care about the characters.
RIP $50 I spent on my first Star Fox game, only to realize that the game itself was blocked by an IMPOSSIBLE control scheme. You know why the game was so hard? I couldn't aim properly, I couldn't see where I was goin when I was using the gamepad, etc. Basically, a good game that you can't play because of the controls. Arlo, we've got the same opinion.
Wait, you love motion controls, yet you hated StarFox Zero's use of it. That's very surprising for me to hear since I'm the complete opposite. I hate motion controls, yet I find Zero's use of motion controls to be tolerable for me. There were rarely any moments in the game where the motion controls almost ruined the experience for me like other motion controlled heavy games did like Skyward Sword. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Thank you for a well reasoned opinion, I agree. The controls are on point!
I liked assault a lot, even if people hated it. Even adventures had it's high points. To be fair though, I like star fox for it's characters. Not the gameplay. Zero was... NOT doing it for me. and unfortunately, It's pretty likely this'll be the last star fox game. What, with all the negative reviews and all that.
+Harmonious Hyena Star Fox Zero doesn't have as many negative reviews as you may think.
+Harmonious Hyena Seriously, Nintendo's mentality is stupid and annoying. They did the same thing with Chibi Robo Zip Lash, not that I've played any of those games, but people wanted a new one so they crapped out a boring generic platformer instead of the original's gameplay, and were like, "Hey, here's you game" and then they're like, "Oh, it didn't sell, must be because nobody wants a new Chibi Robo game so let's not make any more."
Why are the controls bad then?
You're one of my favorite youtubers. You got a really cool gimmick, and I value your opinion with the game. I'm not sure I agree.. I haven't even played the game, but I can absolutely respect the fact that you're honest. Good on you, man.
I like your reviews because you provide intellectual commentary with clever humor to make the best review. That is what makes you so great. Your channel is truly a jewel.
Okay, I know I'm late. But he said GameCube. We got Star Fox Assault. There is great space shooting and vehicle shooting. What is wrong with Star Fox Assault? Is it because SOME of it was on foot? It was still Star Fox! I wanted the option to get out of the ship since SNES.
I just beat the game for the first time yesterday, I am adjusting to the controls as I now look for all the secret levels, plus there are challenge missions to do. I think the game deserves more than a 2/7 because you are clearly rating it as a game that is just not for you, but I can understand your review as a whole. Keep making more, Arlo.
5:02
Star Fox Assault: Am I a joke to you?
I love how smart this puppet is.
I even preferred Adventures and Assault over this one. Those two may have deviated from the formula, but at least they were FUN to play. This one tried to act like a traditional game, but its execution was too poor
This game looks like it would've been better on the 3DS, but, the same goddamn question, why fix whats not broken? I would've been haapy with having the same phsysics, the same controls, the same gameplay from 64, but bigger, with multyplayer, ONLINE multiplayer, maybe some co-op (as in, 4 players using the whole team on story mode) maybe make the game longe, more routes, different final bosses, etc... When Starfox Adventures (which IMO was pretty good, but with a lackluster ending) has better Arwing controls than this, then, they should do something about it, it felt too forced, sure, everything else in the game is nice, but it feels so empty for a 2016 retail 60 dollar game.
Agreed. It's like... they somehow completely missed the point on why people wanted a new starfox, not for gimmicks but for a bigger and better succesor to starfox 64's simple and fun action @.@
lack of Multiplayer is the one thing imo that critics are right to point out. However, I love this game (and controls too!) and it's way underrated.
it is better on the 3ds
see star fox 64 3d
They already did that. It was called Star Fox 643D
Really glad I found this channel
I appreciate someone else's point of view. I picked the game up, and the controls just clicked. The rapid switching of attention made the game feel action packed for me. I loved how the game felt a little more difficult this way, as to give a challenge. I'm very aware that a lot of people were disappointed, whereas I've felt the exact opposite. Either way, I respect your point of view and think it makes valid points.
This and Mario 3D world were extremely disappointing. Nintendo really did give the 3DS more love
I do agree with them giving 3ds more love as I am not really into handheld gaming, I want to sit down and put time into my games not look at a small screen i just wish some of those amazing games on 3ds come to console. But getting back on topic I thought 3d world was really good, it was just a reboot of 3d land but I thought the level design and everything was good and different, I cannot really compare to starfox and starfox zero
no it wasn't you dumb ass
@Rodrigo Gonzalez, I mean sure without any back up ir anyting that I am wrong, I am just wrong, it is just an opinion, respect why don't you.
Max Venker I am saying the other guy is wrong but I do agree that they give it too much love
@ Rodrigo, sorry about that then, are you talking about the guy who started the comments or hammerbro? And how do you add the plus sign name so it goes @ that person?
I personally enjoyed this game. I got ahold of the controls fairly quickly, after Corneria precisely. But Even I can say that the Walker and the Landmaster is clunky. And I can see why people couldn't get ahold of the controls.
I can do just fine in the walker chicken wing but I literally can't drive the land master.i always give the controller to my little brother.
+Attacker Baby also growing sucked.everyone can agree on that
+Attacker Baby
You're right. Growing does suck... but the "Gyrowing" sucks even more.
walker and landmaster aren't really bad...but the gyrocopter? that doesn't belong in a star fox game
Imagine No Man's Sky mixed with Star Fox. That would have been cool and should've been the game we got by now IN 2016!
Wii U can't handle that power.
you mean: it wouldn't be able to handle all those bugs
Making a game open-world doesn't make it a better game. The reason why _Zelda: BotW_ works as an open world game is because the original Zelda was very exploration-based and was about finding ways in the environment to solve situations. It's essentially going back to its roots by going open-world. The reason Mario wouldn't work as an open-world game is because that was never the series' intended direction. It was always about focused platforming on obstacle courses. Likewise, Starfox was never about exploration, it was always an on-rails action shooter with emphasis on enemy placement and boss battles. It was never meant to be like _No Man's Sky_.
I think he meant the concept of no mans sky more than the game itself
I love this game I'm beast at the controls now. here I come polygon arwing
Same here
I think the game is a solid game 7/10
Star-Reboot: zero fucks given
I got used to the controls, but I still agree with a lot of what you're saying. The entire game's design is just bogged down by unnecessary crap. The controls for instance, they work and they're fine once you get used to them, but they add next to nothing to the game that 64 wasn't able to accomplish on its own. Star Fox, After Burner, etc, have all worked fine with only aiming ahead, I see no reason why it needed to be changed.
Even my favorite game of all time, Kid Icarus Uprising, played it smart with its moving and shooting and made it Space Harrier where you can aim, as well as locking your cursor when your stylus is on the screen. Meaning so long as you're touching the screen, you always know where your shots are going to go, regardless of where Pit is.
That's not true in SFZ, your reticle is tied to where the Arwing is, much like every other star fox game, and the game commits the sin of letting you aim further away from the arwing than the reticle on the TV will display.
But above all else, it just didn't need this at all. The top speed section shows that the team was plenty capable of making the arcadey action of 64 again without needing to bolt on all this unnecessary shit. And that's really my biggest beef with everything about this game. It's like any other Nintendo game or modern game nowadays, bogged down by unwanted unnecessary crap that nobody asked for, nobody wanted, and would have been better off without.
teach me the ways of masting the shiity motion controls senpai! oh wait, on second thought... i don't think i will get any better at them.
+NIklas Felder (im on a phone so i can't edit it) mastering* (stupid touchscreen!)
+NIklas Felder The thing is that they're really not bad, and work really well in my opinion. Honestly I've tried typing out a bunch of responses, but the more I do the more I rescind pretty much all I've been saying.
Stuff like the Wolf duel, that one all range stage with bill, Zoness, once you get good with the controls they're all fantastic.
in all honesty, I think Arlo is just trying to justify his salt at not wanting to get good at the game, because there's really a lot to love here.
I do respect your opinion. I just find that you saying that this game does nothing right at all for any part of it and then turning around and saying that you know some people like it just baffles me. Either this game isn't as irredeemably bad as you say or there's something in this game that you never even tried that made everything okay at best.
+Randomface gaming I personally had no fun with it, thus the bad score, but others just don't feel the same way. That's the nature of opinions; they're going to differ. If there were a truly objective measure of a game's worth then there would be no reason to have reviews at all.
Also I did say that without the factors that made me hate the game, it's a mediocre game underneath (not pure trash, just not particularly good). It's perfectly reasonable for those factors to not affect someone, then for them to feel that the mediocre game is actually great, thus resulting in a completely opposite score.
Arlo Ah, thanks for the explanation. It just sort of threw me how drastically different and divided all of the Star Fox Zero reviews have been. With yours being the lowest I've seen (out of everyone who actually played the game). It was just really weird for me to watch a review that was almost 100% hatred of a game punctuated by the constant phrase, "but other people enjoy it".
+Arlo you're right Arlo. I myself had to get used to the controls and even I say the controls are aggravating :(
hes obviously just saying it in order to not piss off people (because people give him money). Thats not a bad thing... but thats how it is. Use your brain guy...
+Arlo The game isn't mediocre, Its the return to form the series needed but you suck at the game and so you didn't enjoy it, so therefore, calling it mediocre is a step too far for someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. I'm bad a splatoon's motion controls, which most believe is the only way to play, does that mean I can call splatoon mediocre? no. It's also unfair to claim that anyone good at a game you don't like just accepts mediocrity. Star fox zero is the first good star fox game since 64.
2/10 why not 1/10 you even said you didn’t have a second of fun with it
Your right, everyone is entitled to feel the way the want, I've gotten mixed reviews on the new Star Fox and I recently got my hands on it. It pains me to say this, but I personally agree with you. It could of been so much more. :/
Bruh why does everybody forget about star fox assault
For real that game actually tried to push the series forward gameplay and story wise. It even acknowledged Adventures instead of just being another reboot
I really want StarFox Assault 2
Why didn't you mention Star Fox Assault, on the Gamecube? That one was actually good.
+AngryNerds100 I think that game is in "another universe" than the main line. So the snes, 64 and wii u ones are in one universe while, both the gamecube ones are in another.
Link2ThePast95 Actually, it's in the same continuity.
+AngryNerds100 Probably because it was still such a huge departure from Star Fox 64, and most people didn't bother giving it a chance. That, and half of the game forced you to stop the action to run around on foot like a pleb, or were primarily on foot. I actually enjoyed the game, it's alright, but I still have to say they messed up. Every time I see something like that I assume Nintendo had an original idea pitched and they slapped on their own IP for marketing reasons.
Star fox 64 was such an awesome experience to play when it first released. It was a perfect Star fox game and a real graphical showcase at the time.
I stumbled upon this by complete accident.
Suddenly I'm binge watching an entire channel because the video I stumbled upon had me hooked from the start. Subbed. :)
This is like Kid Icarus: Uprising all over again. A bunch of people love or hate it depending on their view on the controls.
+sephiroth7655 People always compare this to Kid Icarus, but I don't think that's a fair comparison. Kid Icarus uprising has one thing on this game that not a lot of people seem to mention. You can actually change the controls to something more comfortable in that game. It's just a simple matter of taking a look at the options. With THIS game you are stuck with the dual screen, motion control centric control scheme whether you like it or not and that's what really makes it bullshit.
I think this game is more so a Skyward Sword situation than it is a Kid Icarus Uprising situation. Yeah people criticized the controls in Uprising, but the game itself is nowhere near as polarizing as Skyward Sword was because of it's controls. People give more flack to Skyward Sword than they do with Kid Icarus because of it's controls, as well as other jarring problems that Skyward Sword had but that's another topic.
+Jonnathan Sosa Am I the only ome had had NO issues with skyward swords controls. Like, everything worked for me
Skyward Sword is my favorite Zelda game M8
Ranma personally I feel Kid Icarus Uprising is far more Superior game however. Yes the controls are far from perfect but it still had a new well written story with interesting new gameplay mechanics. Star Fox Zero even if it had standard controls wouldn't be much farther away from simply good. If KI:U had standard controls it would be one of my favorite games from Nintendo, the controls are just that one thing keeping me from loving it to the fullest extent, however the controls in SF:Z are not the only things that aren't good.
I don't think Star Fox Zero is a bad game I just don't think it's as good as Star Fox 64.
You are probably my favorite guy on TH-cam! I just agree with you on so many things. I love how you have this love/hate relationship with Nintendo, I can totally relate with it. This review was just spot on.
I watched this video for the first time somewhere around 6 years ago. I liked the game, but I also really liked your video and the comedy in it. The lines have popped up repeatedly in my brain since then, so I figured I'd come back for some nostalgia and to leave a comment.
I'm sorry you couldn't enjoy it, I'm having a blast.
Just saying, Miyamoto is the man who is ALL about the gameplay, not the story, not the atmosphere or the characters, to the point where certain franchises *cough* Paper Mario *cough* are void of these elements.But if Miyamoto is responsible for good gameplay, why is there massive controversy over his latest games controls?
+Mr Calligraphy He didn't even get the gameplay right in Sticker Star.
supersnorlax1 I know right! Kudos to him resurrecting the industry, but he is out of touch :/
+Mr Calligraphy I question his role in literally anything good he's been a part of. I just can't believe someone with so many horror stories of how impossible he is to work with and who actively eviscerates games in production actually did anything himself.
***** Could you source this, I'd like to know about this myself. Also that sort of work ethic is very annoying and condescending leading to a poorer quality of the final product :/
kotaku.com/5964444/miyamoto-convinced-the-people-behind-paper-mario-sticker-star-to-ditch-the-story
www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.381596-Miyamoto-is-a-Slightly-More-Friendly-Steve-Jobs
www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-11-23-miyamoto-i-cant-tell-if-im-a-good-boss-or-not
To summarize; The man earned his keep and beyond. He's one of the men most responsible for the success of Nintendo. At the same time, this isn't at the stage in development he is most skilled at. He thrived in Nintendo's time as a desperate start-up trying to take off. He has a rigorous, perfectionist, and creative mind. Every year, though, more stories pop up of him shutting down good ideas and projects that just aren't his style while also failing to catch glaring flaws.
I remember hearing he wanted to scrap Smash Bros. after 64, that he harshly and brutally gutted Paper Mario: Sticker Star (it's probably a colored report, but it's still a mark against him), and most recently there's this motion controlled, double screened, shitty gimmick thrown in the middle of every other level, Star Fox 64 reboot. I've lost most of my respect for him at this point, I guess.
I took Paper Mario maybe a little too personally if I'm being fair, but even he seems somewhat remorseful in some interviews for his creative control. He's quoted as shutting down roughly 70% of ideas put forward, also quoted as saying maybe 20% of the people he has to turn down he treats maybe a little too harshly. In that same interview he says some of the ideas he tells people "Stop pursuing that. Move on." actually turned out to be important pieces of fantastic games. He cites the development of Super Mario 64, saying "You know how in Super Mario 64 you can grab Bowser and spin him around by his tail? I actually stopped that. I didn't tell them it was impossible, but I said, 'Don't explore that direction anymore.' I just felt like it was pretty risky. Then something happened to get the program working, and I decided that since there was now a light at the end of the tunnel, we should go with it as one of the main features."
So he's no slouch. But even he doubts his place and qualifications for management. His ideal development team is a struggling start up barely keeping it together, a dream team of desperadoes who make it perfect through hard work and their own perfect style. He wasn't made to have to tell people "Your ideas and your process for developing them are good/bad" and manage teams. He was made to do it himself.
Arlo, can you play this game with 2 people? One with gamepad controlling the target and another with the Controller Pro controlling the ship?
Just found your channel today! Great content, awesome reviews, and coherent well-written rants. Subbed!
I personally loved SF Assault.
My group of friends enjoyed the multiplayer and tried to beat eachothers mission score.
One defense I *HATE* is "the lack of lip syncing is a reference to 64"
SERIOUSLY!?! HOW IS THAT A FUCKING GOOD THING!?
It's an 8th gen game, the bare minimum is there to be fucking synchronization.
And if it is a reference then it's just insulting 64, "ho look remember how shit the lip syncing was in 64? Good times"
Don't get me wrong, lip syncing isn't important but for fucks sake it's not a reference it's laziness which would be scrutinized.
+sonic meerkat no, it's definitely an homage to SNES and 64, not 'laziness'.
+sonic meerkat
It isn't laziness nor is it a reference to older games. I believe that Miyamoto when he first thought of Starfox had the idea to have the characters to be like puppets because he liked the muppets or something like that, or some other series with puppets. It's definitely done intentionally.
Gem Merchant
*read the comment*
"And if it is a reference then it's insulting 64, 'ho look remember how shit the lip syncing was in 64? Good times'"
Learn to read before you type.
SylvesterrSan that's a good point actually, although the character designs have moved so far away from puppetry it just looks lazy.
sonic meerkat of all the things anyone can possibly complain about in StarFox ZERO, lip sync or an intentional lack thereof is probably the most arbitrary.
it would be like complaining about how quickly or slowly the text scrolls in a game that progresses independently of it while also being fully voiced.
I WISH this had been just Star Fox 64 again, gameplay-wise. HD graphics, some new cutscenes and dialogue, that's literally all they would need to make a great game, even if it'd be simply a rehash.
Star Fox 64 was a really fun, fast-paced arcade-style game from beginning to end and I still play it every once in a while all these years later. Star Fox Zero had clunky controls even in the arwing, and the gyrowing was the worst offender in terms of taking fun away from the player. It's stressful to stealthily avoid enemies because you desperately don't want to do all that busy work again if you die.
Starting following you and love your videos, while I have never really got into the starfox series I have always been intrigued by them. Would love a video explaining the flaws or what people didnt like about starfox on the GC (adventures I can understand but assault did look like a starfox game I thought)
Star Fox Zero sounds like the name you'd give a prototype, and from what I've seen in game play and reviews it looks like one.
You're the man Arlo. Thank you for flawlessly verbalizing my feelings about this game. You're my hero Arlo.
As a child I found Starfox on the SNES very impressive but as a teen Starfox Adventures meant everything to me. It was one of the most beautiful, most emotional, most true game experiences I ever had and I couldn't imagine Starfox to be ever a rail shooter again. Since those days I'm desperately waiting for a new Starfox Adventures to come even so it's very unlikely.
Same, I started with star fox adventures which I absolutely love then I've played assault and the old 64 and I couldn't get into them. I feel like star fox would be a successful franchise if it was more like SF adventures. An action adventure game where you explore planets, use guns etc.. Ad have some space battles
@@franck4727 I love Action Adventures with this formula in general. Okami for example was a beautiful game. Sadly Zelda took a big step away from this formula with Breath of the Wild even though I think the Metroidvania-like puzzle-box approach could still work in a (gradually expanding) open world and also Mario or Donkey Kong could benefit from being more like a story-based Action Adventure with NPCs while not going all in as an open world but taking an inbetween approach. The same for Pikmin but I also wish this gameplay for franchises like Starfox that had their origin in completely different genres like F-Zero. Why not exploring Mute City and getting to know captain Falcon as a person more closely.
@@wihatmi5510 I both love and hate breath of the wild. First time I feel this way toward a Zelda game. The problem with open world game is that you can't really make a great story since everything is "open" you have to lean on side quests to make the world interesting. In BOTW after the great plateau (which I find great) you have all the tool needed to explore the world which kills the sense of progression you would have if you unlock new abilities that allow you to reach different area.
I agree with you on f-zero and starfox. Both franchises are science fiction, they have so much potential to make great adventures, stories and locations but they are limited by their genre. F-zero is great racing game but has much more to offer than just racing. Same with starfox. Since Nintendo games doesn't focus on story (they can make good storues but they choose to not do it), franchises that would benefit from it doesn't evolve. They should let a third party studio make starfox and f-zero games
@@franck4727see that's where a MASSIVE miss conception about starfox. StarFox decline only started to happen with Adventures, when they started to do everything but "more of the same" which is something that literally mainline mario and zelda does. Instead of doing more of what people loved about it, they choose to do genre jumping for no reason. It doesn't help that nintendo doesn't stick with a certain 3rd party developer to maintain a creative vision. That's the big one, without a designated team you end up having games with clashing styles or visions. You would also be dealing with quality not being there which does hurt ideas that would work like StarFox Assault.
But to top it all off is Miyamotos GIMMICK first philosophy for the series. Its very restricting, it mean you have to squeeze an idea out of your rear that isn't good and basically dictates whether or not an entry is made.
Imagine all of what I just said being applied to Zelda. Zelda would be in the same position that StarFox is currently in.
Arlo you don't have to apologize for hating a game!