Kroq-Gar Legendary First 10 Turn Guide
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- First 10 turns guide for Kroq-Gar Mortal Empires on Legendary difficulty. Capturing whole starter province by turn 3. If you don't want to do that first battle download the save file here:
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Something changed!
"just as planned" - lord of change..... Everytime....
Can't wait to try this on easy difficulty. Thanks Legend!
I am guilty...
I feel like everithing above normal jsut drags things out
Also f public order and suplylines
@@theonesithtorulethemall I play on normal and the AI still gets many cheats. they still build more armies faster than you even if they have 1 settlement and they grow their cities faster. I feel like if i played it on a harder setting it just wouldn't be fun and the difficulty is fake because it's just the AI using cheats not actual strategy. In battles above normal they get leadership bonuses out of nowhere even if my units are exactly the same.
@@-pancakes7205 I almost have 3k hours, I've started using Cheatengine just to make things ridiculous lmao. I hit tier 5 insanely fast and...it's just fun being super OP. Kinda a revenge against the AI
I'm currently playing Kroq Gar on normal.
@@-pancakes7205 i think hard and very hard are well balanced, though. Sure, it's just cheats, but that's the case for litterally any strategy game.
if they made an actual smart AI we could not win. have you ever played chess?
Legendary difficulty is ridiculous though.
"And if it goes rampage...Just have Kroq-Gar tell it to stop"
I can hardly imagine the size of the roll of newspaper Krog-Gar uses to boop the snoot when getting a Feral Stegadon to stop rampaging.
Thank god for this, I tried playing Kor Gar multiple times lately but it just feels like i get two fights from the shaven and then I’m just sitting there with the crappy lizard mean economy.
Exactly
Or doing nothing but fighting grimgor. I literally had to spend 200+ turns dealing with his 50+ settlements and WAAAAGH armies with just 3 stacks
I Still think the original idea was that youre suposed to use skinks and then upgrade in that skinks are supossed to be normal (empire) lvl strong
Everything Else is super op but expensiv
But then they failed,
Horrendesly
@@theonesithtorulethemall I always thought that saurus were supposed to be the backbone of lizardmen armies in early-to-mid game, but then they added lords like Tehenhauin and Oxyotl who can buff skinks like crazy. So most lizardmen campaigns are like: skinks, skinks, skinks, skinks, skinks, stegadon doomstack.
The shaven? No furs!
Yes! Missing the streams but loving this content!
Whoa, you are making 10-20 turns guide again? Nice
Yeah, it makes sense because development on WH2 is finished. No new content or patches to potentially mess up the guide.
He just covered the disaster battle and talked about how this is a bad start location, so I imagine the gears started turning in his head pretty quickly about it.
Kroq-Gar Legendary First 10 Turn Guide
a.k.a. How to win 641 smol rats with 1 croc boi
this is such a legend way to start this campaign, lets just win this fight with a single level 1 lord which isnt even a mage, he never fails to amaze me. thats why im still here after about 2 years of watching.
10 turn guides are awesome. Hope you do more. (Some old ones are outdated)
Perfect timing! I was just wonder this week how to start with Kroq-gar. I always get frustrated chasing after that first skaven army. But everyone knows you don’t chase rats, you bait them with cheese!
Awesome timing, tried lizardmen once months ago and didn't go so well, wanted to try them on mortal empires (and Kroq'Gar was most likely on the list) so thank you!
Try the white lizard...
You start with lord kroak And a very clear root of conquest
Great stuff as always, Legend. Consistently finding new ways to take on these campaigns with a variety of cheeses. Love it!
My favorite 20 turn Guide will forever be the 16 hour, 3 video long Taurox Campaign.
Love your videos Legend, you've been a huge help and inspiration keeping me playing this game that I love so much.
Thanks a lot for that. Obviously 20 turns guide are a lot of work and too much things can happen but a 5 -10 turns guide is really helpful to give everyone a good and predictable start.
would love to see more of those 10 turn guides, great job!
Best video format if you can repeat the same for all factions and all lords!
Some are jsut easy thou like Count noctilous or igit claw
And others are unpredictebil from the start like the empire
Also imagen one for Chaos....
Whats he suposed to say??? Go to menue And select beastman instead???
@@theonesithtorulethemall igit claw lmao
@@TeaserTravlein igitt means "yuck" in my language :D
i thought it was pretty funny.
I just tried this and got a "strong" Krox. It allowed me to auto resolve the turn 1 fight with a Close Victory :).
"Tough" would work too
Thank you for this! Lizardmen is one of the factions I love and Kroq is one of my favs. You made my day :)
Thanks for this guide.
I love your early turns guides, thanks Legend.
0:00 intro
1:44 turn 1
18:00 turn 2
20:30 turn 3
24:07 turn 4
25:37 turn 5
26:56 turn 6
28:04 turn 7
39:46 turn 8
40:58 turn 9
46:30 turn 10
Great guide. What I love the most about Legend's strategies and guides is that you can apply them on any difficulty and they will only work better on easier difficulties.
A while ago I've tried following another TH-camr's guide and got nowhere. The guide was on Very Hard campaign and Hard battle difficulties. It did not work for Legendary/Very Hard at all.
Thanks for the content.
Legend:
I'm only going to do guides/lord comparison for new lords because otherwise they get low views.
Also Legend:
Kroq-Gar
Kroq-Gar IS the legend
I hope he adjusted his perspective on things a little!
Going only for the views, when he clearly can live well with lower views(no streams!), is just pressuring himself.
Thank you for this guide Legend! It is very educational and please consider turn this into a series! Regarding Teotiqua, they are more of a detriment than an ally and I would rather CA replaced them with some other race or turn them them into a new Legendary Lord.
Still waitin' for that LL Tierlist. Thanks for this video Legend
thanks for the guide legend. this helps out alot! have a good day sir.
Hope to see u back on stream soon! But this was greatly womderful
My favorite series on the channel.
Appreciate your help and time
I've gotten so trained to hit that feeder army early that I didn't consider sending Kroq-gar North right off the bat instead. That bit alone was useful. I'll keep a better eye out for other opportunities like that, thank you.
love that this series is coming back
Kroq Gar was my very first campaign and holds a special place in my heart, but I haven't tried this! Awesome!
yeah Kroq Gar was also my first campaign. i was used to roflstomping on legendary in other total wars, so imagine the shock when my saurus spears were completely useless against skavenslaves...
This video is reminding me why I got into your channel
RETURN OF THE 10 TURN GUIDES HELL YEAH
im experimenting with dawi, destroyed grimgors faction by turn 7 and now im in turn 11 defending iron mountain against wurzag (legendary-very hard). will take a look at kroggar next, ty for the recommondation / guide!
By Grugni’s beard! How did you do that?
You let your two minor settlements be taken by the bloody spears?
@@blackviking4925 3 battles turn 1, capture settlement for replenishment, dont stack up too much losses, recruit, turn 2 jump to karak dorn, just outside the reinforcement of the settlement, he will attack you over the end-turn, again you need a good fight, attack karak dorn on turn 3, recruit and jump above black crag turn 4, its 2 armys, one will leave for karak azul, attk black crag, use your ammo wisely, charge the wall only after you ran out, use your eng. hero to climb up, waste the ammo of their catapult before you do that, spam thorgrims ability and voila black crag on turn 5, sit outside marching towards iron mountain in a camp turn 6, recruit, grimgor will attk over the end-turn, defeat him and go for iron mountain turn 7. i just notice i wrote 6 before, well it was 7, must be sry.
so basicly yes, i left the silver road to eliminate grimgor first. anyhow, greenskins will feel like retaliation and its not that well structured yet^^
you should definitly ask legend for his opinion on wh not me, im just a noob :D
Something I had trying this, just for very slightly different outcome was I took a Kroxigor with the "Tough" attribute (extra armour and melee defence) and I got a pyric victory auto-resolve in the first battle, even though he was still ambushed.
I wish one day Legend would make such great guides for Immortal Empires
That was unexpected. I though, no guides till WHIII release.
He changed his mind. And one day he will tell us why.
Literally was just thinking last night that for my next campaign I wanted to try to make a legendary campaign with Kroq-Gar work for the first time, and then this video comes out the next morning. Thank you Legend!
This couldn't have come at a better time
Thanks, this is super helpfull. I always liked this campain but the start was just agony.
Never in a million years would I come up with this opening fight strategy.
Wow haven't seen one of these in ages!
Tbh, I prefer Legend doing that kind of videos instead of the streams. I subscribed to his channel when he only had 50.000 subscribers and I remember his good old let's plays. That's way more immersive and enjoyable than the overcrowded streams because here, you just watch the game and hear Legend's input and thoughts without any interruption.
Word. I watched every single campaign play through he’s done and really enjoyed them. Ever since he started streaming I thought it’s amazing that he’s doing it but when he started streaming first time playthroughs or new updates I can’t watch more than 10 minutes without leaving because of the amount of interruptions and the same questions being asked by people again and again.
I’m hoping that he will NOT stream his first gameplay for all WH3 factions so that I can actually watch and enjoy them. But it’s up to him at the end of the day to do whatever makes him happy.
@@fidel4023 Exactly!
@@bogdanleshenko7149 Nobody can deny that! Although, we should not forget his "save your disaster battle/campaign" concept that also made him more famous. But now that he got a good sub-base, it's a good thing that he's not grinding as he used to be with the streams and that instead, is focusing on doing videos where we are fully immersed in the game and still enjoy his funny personality. I'm not necessarily talking about making Let's Play, tbh.
True. I watched one livestream live and it was not amazing.
However livestreams are ok to watch after they are recorded - so you can fast forward boring parts like sieges.
P.S. Totally understand that livestreams and donations are a big chunk of Legend's income.
Thanks for the video
10 turn guides seems like a better format for TH-cam
For a anyone confused about rebellion, it always spawns at the capital, if you own it, which is what he's trying to plan around
If you have more unorthodox openings like this I will watch any starting guide.
"You won't need this on lower difficulties" You sir have never met me.
Please more guides even if they are just 10 turns
good and concise guide
I swear you made one of these for kroq-gar
That first battle is basically the same thing as cheesing bandits in Mount & Blade on your mount when you first start the campaign 😄
Plz More of those Guides :)
God I love these guides
Decided I needed to do that battle myself for the challenge. It was long and tedious for sure.
The extra long part was not getting fleet footed for 30min.
Interesting bug at 42:50 enemy lord takes damage before stegadon connects. Its an issue the multiplayer community has found, I guess it happens in single player as well. You can see the javelins a few frames later hitting the skeletons, so it wasnt them
something i want to add to settle in ruins: the cost depend on the number of troops the army has and the more the lower the cost. so, for example a stegadon doomstack army trying to settle in ruins would have to pay way more to establish the settlement than sending a skinklord with 19 units of skink kohorts.
Bringing an army-less lord to settle is my move so my main armies aren’t stuck for a few turns regenerating health. Once they take it, disband, and you’re good to keep rolling.
@@greencheek i think thats true for most times, especially later in the campaign where money is not an issue. but in the early game you wanna save as much gold as possible. so if you have two armies that could settle the ruin, send the one with more people in it. recruiting a lord, just to free your main army for other things will really raise the costs for the settlement and you will lose some gold because of the supply lines for at least one turn up to 3 turns depending how far away this ruin is from your closest settlement. Having one of your early game armies do it yeah, it means they are stuck between 1 and 4 rounds in there, but that means you provide public order and corruption/anti corruption during that time. making it easier to hold the province or delaying revolts at least. so there is more for this than against it.
Playing as Lizardmen for the first time, couldn't get to load your save file coz I don't own all of the DLC(yet, with 400 hours+ in the game).
Didn't get a good trait in neither the Lord nor the wizard, but the Skaven have failed with the ambush
turn 1 is pretty easy first you put kroq gar in ambush and recruit new lord let new lord recruit skink for kroq gar and there turn 1 is done easy EXP for kroq gar and caster and you will have windblast for siege battle
I wish there were some CA-sided statistics that could monitor which races are played the most. Would be interesting to see if there was a spike in the Last Defenders, Mortal Empires campaign after Legend releases these 10-turn/20-turn guides
I've played hundreds of hours on Kroq's campaign and gotta say, I never thought of that 3 army rush to destroy the Skaven. I want to try to modify this and see if I can beeline to the Dragon Isles as I normally do. Malus is deep in fights with the small lizardman faction up there, so you can really take advantage of the situation to take the Dragon Isles fairly easy since ambush stance is op in those jungles.
This campaign is so easy it does itself, how anyone would need a guide is beyond me.
Наконец то интересный контент на канале
You should try a rewatch of our battles and explain what we did wrong of a compilation of players worst mistakes
More 10-20 turn guides Legend Plz
very interesting! i had quite alot of early success with kroq-gar but would never have thought kingdom of beast by turn three was possible! thanks so much, can't wait to try this out for myself, would you say court of lybaras are good early allies? i usually wiped them out...never even considered roping them in to fight mors
Its been a few updates since I played a kroq gar campaign on legendary. But if played correctly you should be able to auto resolve your way to victory over the skaven in 5-6 turns within 10 minutes
"We wanna use the wizard as a tank"
If YOU say so, it will be so.
If you get the Strong trait on your Kroxigor you can just auto resolve the first fight even in an ambush and still kill off Mordkin by turn 3.
I imagine Cold Blooded for lizardmans works like that - Krog Gar bonks dino on a head and says "No, bad dinosaur!".
I once had angry dinosaur campaign
It ended somewhere around turn 30-40 because the sand queen convinced Grimgor to go to war against him, he then proceed to throw four armies at me when I only had one .
"This fight is really difficult"
*Mostly just fucks with them like he's a Rambo-gor*
@LegendofTotalWar you could potentially not have the priest in your army when you colonize the ruin and send it ahead and steal technology from Raseta to get the level up you need for wind blast without sacrificing a turn. also a tough traited (+ 25 armor 5def) krox lord can auto that first fight for those who are interested. only sometimes though its kinda weird, probably depends on the skaven lords traits.
48mins video? nice!
Just FYI as an update if you get a tough kroxxigor lord you can auto resolve the ambush and be totally fine
This works with Throt too! I was being chased by 5 dreadspears and kept hit and run cycle charging them down the hill of the river map.
Hey legend,
Just wanna say that I always really enjoy your content. You make warhammer really fun for me.
Could you do a guide on mortal empires Morathi? Her start is like really hard for me. I find it really hard to deal with alithnar. Her start is even difficlut on lower diffuctlities. Also I never really know what do with Crone hellbrone if I start as her. Her manic is kinda annoying and so is her start position. Because you want slaves as dark elfs, but she keeps getting rid of them. I kinda just struggle with morathi , hellabrone and malus , the rest of the dark elfs are really easy for me though.
All the high elfs declare war on me pretty fast with morathi, thats quite hard to manage as you can be attacked on all sides. Also mazdumondi will declare war sometimes too. But thank you for the tips. Helebrons Campaign is really boring then... Malus is easier, it can be hard to manage both sides even if you confederate though. One iusse I have with alithnar is that all his units out ranged mine, and they do quite a lot of damage to the heros, so it can be hard to deal with. Also he can ambush you...
Sometimes, empire mercenaries? troop, which have multiple steam tank and hellstorm rocket, spawn near this starting position within 10 turns, which makes this campaign so hard.
Genuinely think Kroq-Gar has a pretty easy start compared to most factions. I just turn the cursed jungle into a sack city.
Good video tho mate 👍
Having reviewed the start with Kroq-Gar 🤣
Instructions unclear started a tarox campaign
Perfect work. Really god job.
YYYYYYYYYYYESSSSSSSSSSSS! IVE WANTED THIS!!!!!!!1
You really are a Legend man! I know you are struggling though. I can hear it in your voice. Almost like a terrible tension in the air. We all feel the same way. Were dying inside. But soon the wait will be over! 3 long agonizing months left fellas. Hold strong it will be a long wait but well worth it. I mean it guys. It will be worth it.
No nut November ends December 1st though! 🤔
Legend thinking back to your tier lists for factions and not sure of you covered this already but is cavalry still trash after that recent 'cavalry' update or are there any factions that benefited from it.
First Turn Guides Tier List when?
Woh what is a crushing defeat? I have never seen that before @ 29:14
Fuck. Yes. Thank you oh great cheese lord
What a load of Kroq
Thanks and more of these if they're profitable please! I really like Kroq-Gar but man is the campaign boring at the start.
Legend is doing this coz the last saving-your-disaster only have basic stuff fighting late game enemies
Will watch this after listening to the new IDLES record again and again.
No one asked.
@@greencheek It wasn't a response to a question redacted.
Holy crap I didn't realize Kroxigors were so strong. Can you do similar things with Strigoi vampires?
ghoul kings are great for hit and run, since they have regen. i've fought two skavenslave armies using them, similar to how legend took on these skaven. it's boring, but it works. but then again, all vampire count lords are ridiculously strong.
Would sending the skink to spot the skaven city be better because it saves money and give him a level as well?
FINALLLLYYYYYYYY
Would it have been viable to have the hero search the golden tower for experience, then meet back up with kroq-gar before the attack at rasetra?
oo been wondering how to do this
Shame I can't try this, because I don't have Kroxigor Ancient lord available. You need to have "Hunter and the Beast" DLC to do that strat. I would have been good to mention this in the video. :)
Oh hell yeah son
I'm currently playing Last Defenders ME. I saved the dwarfs from the orcs by the skin of their teeth around turn 80. 50 turns later they're the #1 world power. Now I have to do their bidding so they don't kill me.
yes