I had a period after abusive relationship where i really wanted bbl.. But seriously, man's approval isn't worth my only life i have...ill learn to love myself, even if it means being ugly and alone.
I’ve learned how silly the phrase “this is how REAL WOMEN should look” is, especially when the person saying it is a woman - you’re a woman, that’s how you look, that’s it.
exactly !! some boys said to me that woman should be skinny to be considered attractive back in 2013 because I always was on curvier side but now skinnier women face the same problem with their bodies which is absolutely sad :( we are all real WOMEN , no matter how we look and how we choose to take care of ourselves.
Her lips are so full that it seems like she has trouble closing them and she has trouble talking right now too. I'd be shocked if that alone isn't giving her health problems. Also bbls are one of the most dangerous surgeries because.of the high risk of complications. This is just sad tbh
So true, and as if the health problems aren't bad enough, she can't even smile properly which is so sad! That removes so much personality from her; even though she has a fun personality it's like it can't even shine through as much because she can't smile. 😢 Everything she does looks like a struggle.
I’ve seen people call cosmetic surgery “self care“ or “good for people with body dysmorphia” and it’s actually….. so fucked. There’s no guarantee surgery will change how you see yourself. It won’t make you magically love yourself. I don’t blame people for getting surgery because no one is unaffected by beauty standards etc, but I hate the industry.
hello also gender reassignment greatly profits that industry. How about accepting who we are whatever that comes with. Cant even be gay now without the chopping off of the genitals it seems, bbl, breast augmentation, and fillers.
and the worst part is, people call you anti feminist for supposedly being against the industry, or not supporting their ideas of considering plastic surgery somehow good for them.
Finally someone who says it without sugar coating it. Everyone can do whatever they wanna do but I'm tired of people acting as if it's completely normal to change your jaw shape or anything without a 100% guarantee that you'll like yourself after that.
It's ironic how America is a very individualistic country yet many Americans who get plastic surgery do it to conform to beauty standards rather than to look "different"
I’ve often thought how similar many people with many tattoos look. Usually they have gauges, & face piercings too-many end up looking..like facsimiles of one another. They tend to be a group that also champion’s ‘individuality’ too. Lol. Sure.. They are all looking to fit in.
i feel like it’s important to note that as an american the people who get plastic surgery are people who have some sort of notoriety on the internet, even if it’s just a couple thousand followers on social media they still have an audience. i as an average middle class american have never once met anyone who’s had plastic surgery. it’s always people with an audience
Well, yes and no in my opinion! I think what makes America individualistic is that each individual gets the choice and right to wear whatever they want - not that everyone’s fighting to stand out from one another. Whereas in some more conservative countries (or many other places in the world) some things people enjoy wearing are frowned upon and shamed.
I think it’s individualistic in a way that people can freely express themselves with fashion/accessories and not feel like a complete outsider, because they will also find many others that are into the same aesthetics.
The video of Human Form, the girl actually died while getting her procedure. The doctor sent someone else back home, pretending to be her but because she had her surgery done the family didn’t notice. You can see how they’re puzzled at first, wondering who it is but seeing how she looks like them they don’t question it. It’s a very sad ending.
When I was a teenager, I was walking through a high end store in Beverly Hills. Saw 4 women with pretty much the same face that didn’t match the wrinkled hands/other body parts. It was so disturbing that I chose to never have plastic surgery. I’m now in my 50’s and look younger than my friends who had face lifts and other plastic surgeries. People should do what gives them confidence but I rather follow good skincare, drink plenty of water and look like myself.
That's noble and I agree with you for the most part. Unfortunately, "good skincare" will not get rid of my early jowls--something that runs in the family. I'm not even into my mid-20s and my genetics are already showing... it's not exactly something that raises one's spirits, you know? Plus I love to wear lipstick, but it's hard to justify buying expensive lipstick if nobody can see my upper lip, lmao. I don't want artificial sausage lips, but it would be nice if my lip was at LEAST visible. And let me tell ya, no lips and supple jowls do not exactly make me feel confident. I'm definitely pretty, and I think I get to say that as I have definitely gotten a lot of compliments here and there, but I'm not exactly thrilled to have the jawline of someone in their late 60s, and damn it I want to show off my lipstick!!! Preventing wrinkles and loose skin does mostly come down to skincare and water, you are right. But there are some people out here who do want minor cosmetic surgeries without wanting to look like a robot!
@@nomoretwitterhandles I feel your pain. I've had frown lines (one deep and one minor) since I was in high school! I want Botox for just the eyebrows when I can afford it. It makes me look mean but I just frown when I'm thinking.
@@nomoretwitterhandlesBe carefull. Every plastic surgery addict started somewhere. Also the impact of those procedures in the future is not worth it. For example many people who got nosejobs have trouble breathing in their sleep. Lip adjustments may cause dental problems due to higher air exposure. You always need to have money ready to "fix" unwanted results and all of them possiable outcomes are impossiable to predict.
@AshleyWilliams-xq7lj before getting botox you should try castor oil. It's called nature's botox for a reason. Slather on face each night and massage into wrinkles, it'll take a few months to see results but it works.
The rule should be. For health reasons, give it a year unless it's a life long issue. . For aging, give it 5 yrs. . For drooping skin. . It depends but give it 2 years after work outs. Same for aesthetics. . In general. . Keep it under 15 percent for the first 10 yrs and consider where u fit in the previous categories. . Also don't forget you can't undo an accident out of your control if it doesn't work out. In case u take a cheap route
I feel so bad for Natasha. It’s obvious she’s got a good heart and personality, but she has seriously deformed her face and body. I hope she’s not running from trauma, and whatever is going on, she can get help for soon.
I wish people had to get screened by a psychologist for body dysmorphia before plastic surgery. If they have it then they’re not aloud to get the surgery. So many people will never stop bc they have a mental illness and their body will literally never be enough unless they go to therapy
Don't feel bad. She is the one that has to feel bad for herself. I look at this humpty-dumpty and think, "what happened?!" She has so much fillers, her neck is three times the width of her forehead.
As a swede myself, I can say he represends the sweds very well. Most of us aren't rude or really care about what other people do, their body, their choise.
@@mamathemeat Most people don't really think about the "this is now going out to the world forever, I should think about what I say"... And also most tv shows want the scandalous, so the fact this dude didn't say something mean or scandalous that TV execs could milk for drama says a LOT. Usually those types of shows fish for the most rude setups they can find. (I mean look, tell me it doesn't smell like the programme arranged that blind date for max incompatibility shock value: old fashion trad rural boy meets cosmopolitan large hyper-caricatured woman? That's not a blind date, that's a blatant dramamongering attempt.
As a German I can say that in general people don’t get plastic surgery a lot. In the eye of the public, visible plastic surgery is also very much disliked especially because there are some other bad stereotypes linked to it. But there is definitely a rise among young woman and it’s getting more normal lately.
Especially when it comes to lip fillers I think :') And many of them start at a young age too. As far as I know you only have to be 16 years old to get your lips done..
Yeah, in Germany (at least where I live) most young women get lip fillers if they get ANYTHING done, and they’ll usually get eyelash extensions. The only reason I haven’t yet is because the lip filler isn’t permanent and I don’t want to waste the money. 😭😂
I’ve given birth to six children and my abdominal muscles were f*cked. I couldn’t do core exercises and it was causing back issues, so I had an abdominoplasty (tummy tuck) done last year. I don’t regret it at all and, while it was a cosmetic procedure, I almost consider it reconstructive since it allowed me to work out again. However, I can definitely see how plastic surgery can be addictive and dangerous to your self-image, especially if you live your life on social media and crave attention and likes.
The line between cosmetic and medically necessary is very blurry. I’m glad you had a great experience. I think a good counter to it is just better pre-procedure education and counselling.
I feel like your surgery was an actual medical need. There's a difference. You didn't go out to get some fake lips or nose job for no reason. You were in actual pain and suffering.
After my mom gave birth to two giga babies (me and my older brother) she had a tummy tuck too because she couldnt even go to the toilet properly. So yeah, I agree with you.
@@NoName12344o I think it was 2013?? It was allll over the media. So plastic surgery was the initial issue, that they had all undergone a similar set of procedures in an effort to look “perfect” and ended up very homogeneous, but after some deeper analysis it was also a bit of photoshop that contributed to the judges confusion. Either way, it’s really sad and oddly comical. You’ll find it on the internet, I remember these grid images of women and they weren’t IDENTICAL, but there was a definite absence of unique “imperfections” that make people look like individuals.
Yes! I don’t remember if it was particularly the Miss Korea 2013, but there was one where I believe Girls’ Generation Sooyoung was like an MC or something and there’s a photo of her and them and they all look so similar while she looked different and stood out.
I think the woman from Sweden seemed like such a sweet, fun person, and I'm not against cosmetic surgery, but she has so much filler in her face she sounds like she's having a hard time talking clearly and that is insane. If she is truly happy then ok, fillers do dissolve over time so if she's tired of the look she can just stop getting injections, but she'll be left with a saggy face and will need more surgery. I worry for people like this because the issue is that they'll never be satisfied and where tf are they getting the money for this
Agreed. And if she really wanted to get rid of her fillers in a hurry, most fillers have a solvent counterpart that can be injected to reverse the fillers. I can't imagine how she can feel comfortable with her face skin stretched like that though. I got a knot on my head once, and the skin over the swelling felt uncomfortable and painful. Face skin isn't meant to stretch like that.
Agreed, she seems like a fun person to hang out with. Honestly, whilst her bum implants are huge they look okay in my opinion, but I'm not a fan of the fillers. At least fillers are easier to reverse than a bbl
No filters don't dissolve. There is a great video about it from a plastic surgeon that explains how the filters don't just go away but actually stay in the face and how someone else said already "migrate" to other parts of your face. You would have to get a specific injection for it to dissolve.
Natasha is a hilarious and sweet woman but my god she’s completely disfigured herself. The amount of filler makes her look monstrous and quite scary honestly.
really wish she would've seen how good she looked before. and the guy made a really valid point: "so you traded fitness for surgeries?" on the surface, it's obvious, but the part that stands out is how she *totally abandoned* fitness versus just adding surgeries to do some extra stuff she wanted. take Kim K... obviously surgeries. but, you can tell she has to do stuff to maintain her figure as well. this woman.... someone said she looked disfigured and i have to agree. the thick neck points to being overweight and unhealthy, and that's without even getting to the plastic surgery part. it just makes me feel sad, and awkward. and it's hard to understand how she truly feels she looks sexy. she's carrying herself and acting as if the body she's in is a coy, seductive type, and she *can't* pull it off, not with the face she has crafted. i'm not trying to be negative on her. i just don't understand how there is such a disconnect, that she isn't seeing all of this. her current state looks like where you'd be STARTING, not the current chosen progress.
My good friend worked in the oldest breast surgery clinic in Poland and told me that oftentimes clients would ask for changes that would be too drastic or unhealthy for them and the clinic had to refuse. Which, mind you, is not something most clinics do in America because here it's all about making profit using and abusing idiots.
Here in Italy everyone is supposed to look "natural", so as long as your surgery isn't noticeable it's ok, same things with makeup and pretty much everything in life.
@@izek402 although Italy is very obsessed with beauty, I feel like in general people here are more relaxed. They may judge you but if you know how to definirle yourself, people will respect you. It's not a country for weak willed or weak minded people 🤣
I'm from Europe and I feel like plastic surgery is uncommon unless it's for medical reasons, but then Europe has many different countries with different views so I don't think you can generalise the whole continent
Yeah, I think we should separate it into 3 parts - Northern Europe, Western Europe and Eastern Europe. Just how he referred to Eastern Asia rather than *Asia* Edit : As Юлия Соломко pointed it out, we could even separate it in 4 (NE, WE, Slavic EE and Balkan EE)
I’ve always thought if I had enough money for plastic surgery, what would I change? I decided if I have enough money, i should give it to someone who needs it for medical reasons. Now that I’m older, I see more and more parts of me that could be changed for the better, but I have a strong desire to save every dollar. I’m not sure why. I guess it’s for bribing the nursing home staff to get better care!
It's not like I'm offended (I'm not saying that you are!) but generalising a whoooole continent with sooo many countries, cultures, languages, traditions, histories....... I just dislike generalisations overall. I sure generalise once in a while too, I try not to.
Frankly I've been horrified by plastic surgery culture and the flippant way we're expected to go along with it. the damage it has and will continue to inflict on young women in particular is immense and immeasurably evil.
It's honestly terrible, and horrifying- the whole plastic surgery community feels like it belongs on that one subreddit, r/dystopiannightmare _(I think)_
The original Twilight Zone series also had an episode about plastic surgery called "Number 12 Looks Just Like You". It's very good and basically the same premise as that Korean film but done way before!
@@joshuanoriega5680 didn't they also have "artificial happiness" pills that you only took after you got the surgery? And her dad killed himself in pursuit of finding a more individualized/unique way of life? This episode is one of my top ten faves in terms of Twilight Zone episodes! 😊
I hate how celebrities be like “love yourself” when you literally brought your whole face and body 😐 you clearly didn’t “love yourself” so you had to get a whole new face and body. Cough cough kardashians
In my teens skinny body and plucked eyebrows were the in thing and it messed with my self image. Now thicc thighs and thick eyebrows are the in thing, aka what my body naturally has. Society and trends change, it's not easy to love yourself sometimes but it's worth it in the long run.
@@roxylalondes There is also this pathetic thing of cultural trends, in which people literally consider "beautiful" shit that's not natural for their ethnicity to have. Colorism in India is a very good example of this, but there is something similar in every culture. Like in italian culture for some reason, being blonde, tall and thin(like, no-ass kind of thin) is considered very desirable for women, while natural mediterranean women are literally known for their dark hair\eyes, olive skin, petite figures and generous curves. The sort of bullshit that is pushed onto women is so stupid lmao
The eyebrows really suddenly shifted. One summer everyone was plucking their eyebrows and the next it was thick eyebrows. Girls that used to pluck them just could not fit that image. I never really plucked them, but also don't have the thickest eyebrows. It is a race you can't win anyway
I had 1 plastic surgery procedure to “fix” a part of my body that wasn’t necessarily “wrong” but was outside the norm enough that it affected my self esteem and happiness every day. So I had the 1 procedure and have never looked back, I invested in a good surgeon and took proper after care and 5 years later I am beyond pleased that I did my procedure. But after I had it done, I was immediately inundated by women suggesting I get more. Women saying things akin to “you look great, now what will you get next?” And would insinuate that since I had my one procedure done successfully and was happy, that logically I should get more procedures and become even more happy. Of course I did not succumb to this pressure since I never did it to please others in the first place, but I found it very weird that other women immediately started suggesting I get filler and implants in places I never had a problem with. It is great that we live in a scientifically advanced world so we can do these procedures, but the lowered prices and easier access is definitely leading people to do things they probably should not. People think just because they can, there’s no reason they shouldn’t, but in the end they turn into plastic surgery monsters
My plan is to just never let anybody know if I get something done, since I don’t want any commentary on it, nor do I want that to be part of what people think about when they see me. It’s a strange world…
My grandpa's friend had always like stereotypical pretty face aside from a big big nose, and she was always self concious about it like extremely that it affected her personality. She had her nose done as a wedding gift and it greatly improved how she sees herself. There are no universal standards of beauty, but there are some universal standards of ugliness.
I have a few (mostly non-surgical) procedures picked out but I did a lot of research with a clear end result I want and clear reasons why. I can’t imagine winging it.
Natasha is a sweet woman and it’s sad that she clearly suffers from body dysmorphia. no one goes through such great and dangerous lengths to change their body this much without having a sadly messed up image of themselves. for some people this dysmorphia causes an eating disorder, for others it becomes a gym and healthy food addiction, and she belongs to the third kind where plastic surgery takes over. she doesn’t deserve to be called monstrous for this, bringing her self-esteem down aint gonna help her. I genuinely don’t think she’s ugly, I’m just sad she couldn’t find herself beautiful before and still doesn’t now.
As someone who is studying to be a plastic surgeon, BBLs are so dangerous. This is neglect and any surgeon who agrees to a 6th BBL deserves to have their license revoked. My goal is to open my own practice, and we will not be performing BBLs there.
Glad to hear this. I think it’s too dangerous and should be outlawed. When 1 in 3,000 people die from this procedure, that’s not acceptable. I wouldn’t allow women with children to do it because they deserve to have a mother who is still alive vs one with enhanced buttocks.
I was born with a cleft lip and palette. I have a visible scar on my face from getting corrective surgery when I was a baby. My last procedure I had with a dental implant to replace a missing tooth and honestly I’m so happy. My doctor told me if I ever feel like I want my nose done or my lips done to give them a call anytime. But I don’t think I’ll ever get anything else done. I’m happy with the way I look. I’m beautiful and it doesn’t matter what anyone else says.
Alas! My kin!! I was as well. And it's been so rare for me to encounter another. In my situation when I was 13 my parents because they were ashamed felt the need to get me a nose job. Post surgery though everything was very natural and besides from having a barely visible scar like yourself, it's like people still want it to keep me down and keep me stuck in this identity and in shame. Excited to return to school with my new look (though I still had packing in my nose and nose swelling) ... kids are assholes. Among many of the heinous things said and done "N$gg+r lips"(n word) was a favorite and now everybody is getting lip injections to have the full lips that I've always had. Unfortunately many of the assault and chronic verbal shaming, I turned to maladaptive coping ways. That screwed up a large portion of my early adult life. Apologies for such an extensive response I've only met two other people with the same one being my brother (crazy rare) and another who was a pretty not cool person as he carried damage from his childhood as well. Would love to talk outside of here!
Oh I have known a girl with that too! For some reason I thought her scar was really beautiful. It kind of gave her the edge and made her stand out in a good way :) I am sure you have the same charme to you :D
Swede here, and whilst we are an individualistic country, plastic surgery is looked down on as fake and trashy by most people, but Sweden truly is the kingdom of letting people down gently and not criticizing people to their faces, so the guy's reaction was fairly standard for Swedes.
"this is what a real woman should look like" opinion about plastic surgery itself aside...how can one use the word *real* in that when it's surgeries? i get it's probably like, a rhetorical or metaphorical use of the word real, but... (also i dont want to rag on her as a person. she seems bubbly and friendly in what i've seen here)
Maybe i think too much about that statement but it feels so weirdly contradicting to me, simply because her goal is to show what real women should look but it's only achievable with surgery.
@@annesophie4037 yeah, it is contradicting like that. although i feel it's maybe a little more of an abstract use of the word "real", such as used in phrases like "real men wear pink". idk how to explain it past that though aside from perhaps just used as a way of saying "this is what women should strive for", which feel like it may be a good interpretation. still a little messed up even so to say that people should strive for one standard and one standard only, but i really dont think she meant it that deeply nor do i really think/am trying to say she's as harsh as this interpretation sounds. in my opinion though *any* iteration of "real women are skinny/have curves/have fillers/whatever" is harmful in its own right
In all honesty, I think it's what she feels She should look like. She probably doesn't want all other women to look like that because than she isn't unique anymore.
As someone from Germany I've never seen someone who had plastic surgery. It's probably because I'm from a smaller city, but I'd argue that plastic surgery is by far not as common here as it is in America or south Korea. Some people do express themselves through colorful hair, tattoos and piercings, but plastic surgery is very uncommon and mostly only done if there's a medical reason.
The thing with plastic surgery is that most people who get a procedure actually keep looking very natural and that those very plastic-y people are outliers. I mean, lets take a look at BibisBeautyPalace: Miss girl got a nose and boob job but you would not know if you'd just look at her. I do think plastic surgery is a lot more common in germany (and europe) than we think - we just don't see it because generally people like to keep the natural look -, though I also believe it's not as extreme as f.ex. south korea nor the us.
@@khuzla honestly I haven't even thought about influencers when writing my comment xD, yes it's probably more common for them... But yeah still not as common as it is elsewhere
I'm from Hungary in Europe and here plastic surgery is not common, wealthy people do it here, but just smaller procedures, like botox, lip fillers in smaller amount. Some people sometimes do here bust or bum implants, but usually they are upper class women or upper class sex workers, because plastic surgery here is mainly for health reasons, after an accident for example.
I am from Hungary too, you forget to mention the liposuction is quite common, especially of Instagram fit models who are sponsored. Liposuction is not so expensive for these kind of people. It is not a luxury anymore.
It’s the same here in Germany. In Germany I feel like lip fillers are the most common, along with eyelash extensions. (Although the eyelash extensions aren’t considered a surgical cosmetic procedure.) It can sort of give everyone the same face though.
Yeah if you look like that is eastern europe people will think you are working in sex industry ,and a lot of guys will make fun of you with that huge lips .Plus girls that look like that they are usually with guys that are not usually doing legal stuff ...
i was dismorphophobe when i was young (i was hating myself and seeing me too ugly that i was hiding most of the time). i never did surgery; i only tried to killed myself but i came back! now i am 55, i have wrinkels and gray hairs, but i love myself because in my life i did a lot of beautifull actions. i helped people, children, handicaped, animals, i found love, and happyness and i really don't care to be old and ugly. i am smart, funny, and free! and i guess i start to understand that life is to become the best soul of ourself, at the end this old vessel wich is our body will die anyway but my soul would be wiser.
I think that plastic surgeries are way more common than we think. It's just that 90% of plastic surgeries are so subtle that a normal person wouldn't recognize it. Especially without knowing the person before. it's just the more extreme cases that get a lot of attention and mostly don't look natural or normal anymore.
yeah. that actually reminds me of a story: so after completing filming for the movie version of the musical Annie, Carol Burnett - who played Miss Hannigan - had plastic surgery so, in her words, she "would actually have a chin." She then was told sometime after the procedure that they were reshooting the whole "Easy Street" sequence (which she was prominently featured in). She jokes that in the final film she walked into the closet at the start of the scene with one chin and left with another, lol. Honestly I never would have noticed if she hadn't pointed it out.
There's also the fact that it isn't always for cosmetic reasons, so sometimes it can be genuinely beneficial. I have a deformed nose (internally, so it's not noticeable until I fold it over and scare people) and if I got a nose job to straighten it back out inside I could breathe better. Breast reductions help people who have such heavy chests that it hurts them with the weight, so those are fairly popular too. But due to the fact that the most visible surgeries are the more obvious and cosmetic ones, it probably shapes the public eye about it strongly because, well, we *don't* see the "normal" ones, because they look normal.
It's so normal now that I really think most people don't realize how many common features aren't natural. Boobs that hold cleavage without a push-up? Silicone. Cheeks that clap? BBL. Super even white teeth? Veneers. Sick muscles? Steroids. And I'd bet +90% of everyone who's professionally in front of a camera has fillers and/or Botox. People actually get both their legs broken just to get 1-2" closer that 6' mark! That procedure used to be super rare and only for major deformities, but now it's for insecure tech bros 😓
True, a lot of people don't think too deep into it, but if you've been in any kind of accident that has left you with physical scarring (not just facial scarring either) that affects your mental health (I don't know if a professional would refer to it as body dysmorphia) you will probably be offered plastic surgery to reduce the scarring. I had a friend that I've lost touch with that I met when I was 15 that had a very big long scar down her spine from a medical procedure ( I'm sorry, I don't remember what condition she had) and she was very self-conscious about that scar. She was actually waiting on openings to get it to look at least a little less obvious with plastic surgery, the hospital offered to do it after the previous surgery to save her life. Most people wouldn't think about it as plastic surgery or are aware that someone would have gone through plastic surgery for that reason but it's still cosmetic surgery. Same thing applies to trans people. A trans mastectomy for example (removing your chest and making it look more male) usually takes two surgeons, one of them plastic surgeon. I don't know if people think too deeply into that but they are cosmetic surgeries, they just don't fall under the usual stereotype of extreme plastic surgery. They're body dysphoria related instead of dysmorphia related (I think?).
I think that the 60 or 70% of the people are using plastic surgery as a way of help with their daily things, because of something that happened to them physically While the other percent want to look perfect, or pretty, or to fit the standard I think like.. 10% did get plastic surgery because they wanna stand out or some goal
That movie looks thought provoking. While I don’t love everything that comes with a more individual-focused culture, I do enjoy unique, creative, and healthy forms of self-expression.
@@sydneygrace3745 All the normal ppl had a pig snout but she was beautiful, and she was trying to have surgery to look like them but it didn't work. It was basically a 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' episode.
I feel like people like Natasha have a very deep problem with normalcy. Some people don't understand that being normal is okay, and they do things like these to add to their "personality". I know she does what she wants with her body, but I wonder if she's ever been to a therapist.
There is truly so much beauty in accepting your life can be simple & inexpensive. In being satisfied with what you’re given and can give. Because if you have little health issues, have friends or family, food and shelter, and some means to have fun and see beauty around you, or connect to nature…wow…you are rich. Just to not be suffering in life makes one very rich and is worth being satisfied with.
@@electriksnake Ehhhh, I've got those and I still want to body-mod. Mostly because I see my body as a canvas. It's up to me to mold and shape it as I want it to be, because I'm not doing it for others, but for myself. The key point is that I'm doing it _for me_ and I don't factor in other people's opinions. And also I have a pretty solid grasp on biology and what the consequences of something are, and I'm not taking any BS "you must suffer to be beautiful/suffer for your art" masochistic view, either. I consider it my investments, instead of buying a bunch of expensive decorations and merch and sprucing up my place I spruce myself up and commission people to draw on me instead of drawing on paper or digital canvases.
A lot of these extreme cases are body dysmorphia or plastic surgery addiction... I definitely don't think you can judge a society based on the crap you see in the entertainment industry or these crazy tv shows that focus on outrageous people. In general tho, everyone wants to fit in and conform to not feel like an outcast, however, there is a line that one shouldn't cross just to fit in. It's different for everyone.
I think most cosmetic works boil down to body dysmorphia, someone who looks fine will still go and get "this and that" bigger or smaller or whatever. I've been a victim of it myself and am so glad I didn't get anything done, would have felt demeaning to myself.
Impressive you are in everyone's head and Know everyone! It's ignorant when people assume what they watch and the people that they know=the whole world I have never want to fit in. In general I never had the opportunity to as a young child because of glaring differences but I've always been to my own drum. How sad and limiting it would be to have such a ridiculous fear, you could potentially deny your authentic self. How old are you by the way ?maybe you're speaking from the perspective of somebody still in high school or just emerging from high school. That would make more sense.
@@nonenone9892 It's actually basic psycholgy... it can be trying to fit in through physical traits or by acting a certain way, but it's still the desire to not be an outcast. Maybe check yourself first instead of thinking that the comment is purely talking about only what is presented in the video.
In a way, it's a turn off (plastic surgery) because it presents a deceptive version of oneself. Imagine you were selecting a mate and their appearance is the first thing that attract you to them immediately. Naturally, most of us are programmed and wired to select the best looking mate who possesses good genetics. Now we can't rationalise it but once we know what we think is beautiful is fake, it immediately devalues the object that we used to idolise. I know I feel the same way knowing my favorite celebrities got work done to look like they do now. Same way certain models or natural beauties are envied is because it's rare and seem unattainable. Nowadays, even the average masses can get work done and look beautiful, beauty is no longer a rare commodity, which I find is quite scary.
In Germany there are a lot of individualistic people, colourful hair, Tattoos, piercings, stuff like that. But on the other hand there are also a lot of people that want to fit in, like all dresses the same,same haircut and color. It really depends how you want to be and what friends you have
i think it also really depends on where you live, it's easier to dress more individualistic and "extra" when you live in a big city like berlin or hamburg. if you live in a smaller city everyone is going to stare like crazy and maybe even whisper or make rude comments, so you'd probably try to not stand out to avoid that. idk what's up with germans, but german people stare soooo much at everything that's "outside the box" and it's so uncomfortable
@@nicki4608 I've lived in a small city with colorfull hair and yes, they stare, but I just didn't care what others thought about my appearance any more.
That Korean movie reminds me of a twilight zone episode with Avery similar plot, except the main girl in that episode didn’t want plastic surgery to look like everyone else and everyone else was crazy. She is forced into a psychiatric hospital and realizes that the transformation isn’t optional, like they say and she has to have it no matter what, even though she loves herself. So she undergoes the surgery and ends up looking just like her friend. I remember watching that with my dad a few years back and being like woah, that’s still relevant today.
The Korean film reminded me of a book I read called pretty. It’s set in the future and at the age of 18 everyone gets a free plastic surgery to make them perfect and makes them look the same as everyone else. Those under 18 are kept away from the the rest of society in special zones until they have had their surgery. It’s a good but weird read.
I’ve dealt with body dysmorphia since I was 10/12 (10 and 12 and to this day for different reasons unfortunately) and I feel so bad for people who overdue it, it’s a nightmare to feel like this.
The thing is plastic surgeries don't help in most cases cause there's a problem with a brain, not with a body. And ppk should try to heal their psychological state, not the body or face
Can we normalize the normal human body!! With flaws and lumps and bumps. We are all beautifully broken and we should celebrate that instead!! Great video 🌟
The fact that you think normal human bodies that have lumps and bumps as flaws or "beautifully broken" makes me think you still have that perfect beauty standard mindset despite thinking that normal bodies should be "celebrated" when it should be just as normal as daily life stuff.
@@skrrtskrrt2410 I think they meant that since a lot of people see these lumps etc as "flaws" it should be actually considered normal. "can we normalize the normal human body" as in no human body is perfect and flawless. It's a good take i think. Why try to be "perfect" in a world where everyone at the end of the day is "imperfect".
We're only individuals to a certain extent. Things like plastic surgery we do because of the society/for the society. No one really does it solely for themselves.
@hello true, but most of those have medical reason, even though they are cosmetic. (Large breast can cause back pain and posture trouble, loose skin can cause painful friction, etc) If you are doing something simply to change your appearance, it is hard to argue that it is solely for yourself since society dictates the beauty standard.
@@leonardo.diCATio of course it’s more complicated than what I said. And in the cases of accidents the surgery is usually considered reconstructive plastic surgery, which I fully support. I was just saying that a lot of the surgeries themselves are designed to make a person fit societal beauty standards. Everyone thinks differently but we all have been impacted in one way or another by things like history, the media, and our social circles
@@starnighty4996 If that's what you think then everything you do, what you choose to wear, how you style your hair, or any other body modifications whether it be make up/tattoos/hair dye is not really an individual choice but moreso to appear attractive to other people.
I also fell for this plastic surgery craze, you could say. I got a boob job @ 22 years old. I thought I would love it but I didn’t. They were huge and restrictive. I couldn’t work out, move, sleep, etc... like I wanted. Fast forward to 25 years old, I got my implants removed and had to have a minor revision surgery while they took out the implants. Bottom line, I will never be the same. Also $ lost. I’m grateful that comparatively, I got a more minor plastic surgery enhancement to other surgeries. Ppl should think more about the “what if’s” surrounding a less than desired outcome from their plastic surgery. Know the risks but above all, love yourself. It may take you to change permanently to figure out that the old you was so awesome.
Nobody wants to talk about the reality: having larger boobs suck. It's harder to find clothes and yes, they get in the way. And they get sore and all that.
I'm a 32F and it's terrible. I'm so jealous of women who can wear clothes without a bra, workout with a basic sports bra instead of strapping myself down with engineering
I'm Swedish and she's veeeeeery rare. Swedes have a word called lagom which means not too much not too little; just right and we are usually lagom in every way. If you look at Zara Larsson, Pewdiepie, the Skarsgård brothers etc you can see that people tend to look more natural even if they're celebrities. She is mega Oli vibes.
Me: How much should I put on your plate? Them: Just lagom is fine 😇☺️🙃 Me internally: WHAT. HOW MUCH IS LAGOM FOR THIS PERSON. WHAT DO YOU MEAN???? Ngl this was an issue in my life when I was younger 😂🥲 My lagom isn't your lagom! 😁 (someone reading, communicate with the person. "is this ok? Or more?")
When I was 15 years old I had otoplasty, blaming my ears for all the bullying at the awful school I was attending. The recovery took 2 months and it was brutal, don't let anyone tell you the ''you are up and back to your activities next day'', I had to sleep like a vampire in a casket because turning around would mess the results. Fast forward to new year, I had new ears and the bullies found new things to harass me about. Looking back, I needed my narcissistic parents to tell me that I am good enough and not pay for stupid, unnecessary surgery or to at least change schools, but you know how it is with narcissists, you are never good enough and no matter what happens you will be blamed. I believe that a lot of people like Oli have similar traumatic experiences as me and use plastic surgery to cope and I was lucky to not end up a plastic surgery addict. I fully support plastic surgery when it's needed (for example for reconstructive reasons, when it severely impacts a person's life etc), but not to mask other psychological problems. Karma does exist though, because the same mean girls who bullied me at now broke, disheveled, nobodies in the same JerkWater Heights we attended school at. Oh well.
America has a very "look at me, it's my turn for fame" pop culture, so it's not surprising that many people are desperately looking for the "perfect" look to outshine the others before
That's so true. Everyone here gets plastic surgery to look perfect and stand out from the rest. They want to be idolized for matching the beauty standards, but they don't realize that if everyone else is getting the same plastic surgery to look perfect, then no one stands out. I noticed this is happening with celebrities and influencers who are all beginning to look the same as more and more get the ponytail face-lift, Kardashian body, and fake lips.
@@greenbeancasserole2937 who is everyone? You'd think living in this country for almost three decades I'd know someone who had plastic surgery because they wanted to be more like the influencers but I don't.
As a Swedish person, I was really surprised to find out she was Swedish, some people might get plastic surgery but I barely see it here, I can confirm that she is the only Swedish person I’ve seen with so many plastic surgery’s Edit: 8 months later and I finally remember to say, Idk if I can rlly say that cause I was only born here. I’m not technically swedish but I live here 😭
I‘m european and studied abroads in EU - I thought that cosmetic surgeries are uncommon until my friends told me about nosejobs and boob jobs etc. Turned out many of the norwegian girls had little tweaks done. Also regular tanning studio visits and hair bleaching. So the „scandinavian beauty“ isn‘t as natural as many think 😅
Idk, it's not terribly common in Denmark to have these types of procedures done, and I don't know if it's super common in Sweden or Norway either? Like, I don't think that your average person thinks about having a nose job. Bleaching hair is as fashionable as dying it dark brown. At least in Denmark, the majority of the native population have dark blond hair.
Norwegian here and the tanning and hair bleaching is pretty normal I think, but at least in my circles actual cosmetic surgical procedures are pretty rare
This reminds me of an episode of The Twilight Zone called "Eye of the Beholder" where this lady kept trying to get surgeries to look like everyone else to be considered "normal" It's a fascinating take on how you perceive yourself in a society where everyone looks a certain type of way.
@@xxromanovaxx6682 That episode inspired a young adult book series called Uglies where everyone gets a surgery to make them "pretty" at age 16 - but the surgery has a hidden and nefarious purpose controlled by the government.
WHAT. AS A SWEDISH PERSON WHO LIVES IN GOTHENBURG THIS IS BAFFLING TO ME. Also I'm so shocked I've never seen her if she lives in Gothenburg? Either way I feel sorry for her. I do wonder how her quality of life is... If she has long terms plans or not.
I think the sketchy guy probably “botched” her face so she looks very different from everyone else and the part where she gets her “perfect face” is her dreaming while in surgery.
Thinking the same thing cause he did explain that when they give "that expression", that they gave her at the end is a reaction to something bad/negative 😕
I see a lot of comments from fellow Europeans saying plastic surgery is less prevalent here, and while this may be true to a certain extent, I think they are overshooting the extent. If Europeans are said to favour a more natural look, then this will reflect in the plastic surgeons' philosophy, it's a business after all. This will lead them to cater to that preference, and by extension lead to the perception fewer people in Europe get plastic surgery done than what is actually the case. Those people who do undergo plastic surgery in this kind of cultural environment will also be less likely to tell of it to others. Additionally, most of the examples made in the comments seem to skew towards those kinds of procedures that are easier to notice, such as lip fillers. The mouth is one of the major elements of the face, second only to the eyes. We are wired to take note of even the most minute size and shape differences and how these compare to the rest of the face. However there is a wide variety of procedures involving other parts of the face, and many of them are significantly more difficult to notice due to the nature of the operation and the less attention paid to those parts of the face overall.
i live in europe, plastic surgery is seen less disarable here. i know two girls who did their nose, one said it was for health, another one admits it was her own choice and for apparance, but they are done ''naturally''. if you looked at them, you would not notice their noses are fake.
That is so true. Here surgeon say « the best surgery is the one you don’t notice », we’re really focused on small procedures and you won’t say outrageous surgery that often (except maybe on some moms from the 90s that got botched)
I think the biggest reason why obvious/intense plastic surgery and beauty procedures you need to keep topping up (fillers, Botox etc) are not popular in Europe is because most countries have fairly poor populations compared to prices of plastic surgery. I mean fillers will be around 150-200 euros for 1/2 sessions and minimum salary in most countries I’ve lived in is FAR less than a 1000 euros. With the majority of people earning less than a 1000 euros per month I’m not surprised people won’t do it. To top it up I think a lot of countries don’t have specialised plastic surgery clinics (and if they do they’re very expensive) so you go through a hospital but not every hospital offers plastic surgery so it’s difficult to access.
@@usl4689 well it's sad to say you're wrong... Brazil is one of the countries with more plastic surgeries done yearly (I think it's number 3, after USA and South Korea) and the minimum wage here is waaaay less than that kkkrying (also, the majority of population, according to recent studies, have a monthly income of 3 minimum wages or less)
Instead of allowing this woman to get plastic surgery she should have been given mental help. No healthy minded person would do this. These ppl are victims to warped concepts of beauty. It's incredibly sad.
In England, plastic surgery isn't that popular, but it is gaining popularity and some people do get lip injections and botox.. that kind of thing. I'm not sure coz I've never been interested in plastic surgery, but I wouldn't say it's a huge thing here, there are more important things.
Fillers are popular in Essex for sure though... I’d say within Western Europe, the UK tends to have a higher ratio of non intrusive surgery? (Fillers, botox etc...). I’ve seen quite a few beauty places offer fillers around Essex where I live
Yeah could be the fact most people here consider private health care (and you’d need to go private for cosmetic surgery or any medically invasive treatment) for ‘rich” people or super expensive. So the less ‘medical’ or ‘invasive’ procedures like lip injections and filler are considered cheaper and more normal. I’ve definitely seen people with lip fillers that absolutely weren’t done by a professional.
Plastic surgery is HUGE in the UK. It is done in every beauty salon and even dentists can give botox injections. It is probably more your demographic. Definitely popular with Tik Tokers and Instagrammers of very young ages, the gay male community, older females and everyone with a pubic platform . I would say the only people who arent bothered are straight males
I'm so glad that I was raised in a culture that your "unique" features were to be celebrated and not to be chopped off or "enhanced". I understand people's motives. But the surgeries that confuse me are the ones where a person tries to get plastic surgery to look like their favorite celeb even when they don't have enough of the basic foundational features to start with. What's wrong with looking like yourself? I undertand burn victims, trauma victims, and even some regular people to want some changes made. However, I can't understand wanting to look "exactly" like your favorite celebrity. That seems like you're wanting to take over their life or become them instead of dealing with your own life.
I’ve met one or two people that had this weird behavior of obsessing about someone else and trying to copy everything they did. The people copied weren’t celebrities, it could be classmates, regular people in their lives. It seems like a coping mechanism when you have no sense of self
I've seen a TV show where the owner had plastic surgery done on their dog. The owner didn't want the dog to feel like any less of a "man" after it was neutered, so they gave it implants. There was a whole segment on the consultation where they showed the implants and picked the size they wanted for him. It was a while ago, so I don't remember the name, but I think it was part of a British vet show.
I was fascinated by animals as a kid, and I'd watch every vet show I could. I vividly remember the first time I saw "neuticles" on there. I asked my mom "why are they putting them back in" after the dog was neutered 🤣
in italy cosmetic surgery (especially botox) is pretty common amongst tv celebs, however, it's very rare to actually see someone irl with it... as an italian, i've never felt pressured to get any procedure done. also, many girls go to school with no makeup at all.
I believe we shouldn't treat people any different because of their plastic surgery, everyone deserves the same respect regardless of their appearance. But I also definitely believe we should not be encouraging plastic surgery. I've had cosmetic stuff done myself, but I wouldn't tell others they should go do it. I've also wanted certain plastic surgery in the past that I wouldn't want now... Addressing mental health is so important.
I'm from Germany and I'd say nearly everyone here doesn't get plastic surgeries, because most of the doctors here won't do that unless it's for health reasons and many people prefer not to stand out here, because they are afraid that they'll get judged and picked at.
@@matilda_stay7053 Düsseldorf. Im Vergleich zu anderen Länder, wie der USA beispielsweise, würde ich dir aber definitiv zustimmen. Aber auch hier, vor allem unter den jüngeren Generationen, hat sich dieser Trend etabliert.
I tried a half syringe of lip filler once (smallest amount possible I'm pretty sure), and it tampered with my ability to play the flute. So I never got it again as I didn't want to give that up. I can't imagine getting filler to the point where you can't speak coherently..and still keep going.
Jesus it's like she has trouble talking because of all the surgery. Man she was beautiful before she did all that to herself. If I was on the date and she showed me what she supposed to look like I would have legit shed a tear, because it shocks me how someone could do this to herself and not realize like that qq
I'm French and I can confirm that they're is more self expression trough died hair and piercings (still less then America I think) but plastic surgery is really rare here
@Vicar Amelia If lipfiller is done good,you won't notice, because it looks natural. Thats what a lot of germans do, guess it could be similar in Belgium and France
@@starnighty4996 if you know the before and after, of course it is visible. If you only know the result and not how thin their lips were before, it is not always visible. I know people who get lip filler regularly and still have thinner lips than I have naturally. And they are happy with their natural result so it is not a waste of their money
The doctors that worked on her need to give her a full refund and have their license revoked, apart from the 1st and possibly the second doctor. They know full well it's not good for and yet they keep taking her money. They have zero morals
I don't judge *individuals* who get plastic surgery, but I acknowledge the gravity of this social phenomenon. Somehow most people either bully who get surgery *or* act like *everything* is fine.
Honestly one of the biggest problems I have with plastic surgery is the focus on certain enhancements rather than others. Originally plastic surgery was meant for trauma patients so they could recover and live more normal lives. Also I wish other procedures such as breast reductions and mastectomy were handled with equal care. Doctors often really don't seem to care about these procedures and there hasn’t been enough care put into those procedures.
At this point I'm more worried about her lips giving out and how ruined her skin is with all that botox crap injected, she's only 27 but despite the freezing in place with botox you can see the sag in her face that's what botox will do to your skin. I'm 38 and not one 10th sagged as she is. This is sad.
Glad I found a video on this. Been something I’ve been thinking about, since plastic surgery became so normalised I dunno, I can accept I might sound harsh and mean spirited. Open to different perspectives for sure But, I feel a sense of sadness at how normalised plastic surgery has become. Are peoples sense of self that hollow and meaningless? Is conformity really that beautiful? Why do you feel better about yourself, now you have the same nose, lips, etc, as everyone else on your social level? Do these external procedures really add a genuine enhancement of self? You feel more confident and a fuller version of yourself? Or are these benefits something people fool themselves into believing they’ll feel, when it could just be the ego acting on over drive, to reinforce this character ppl love to portray to society? Saw a tiktok that said exactly what I’ve always said. Rich ppl are now reverting back to being more natural looking. Why? Because all the poor suckers have made it look tacky now. The rich can pay for procedures where they get the artistic finishes to get the best possible surgery’s. This is bespoke stuff. The average joe, is not getting this care when they’re hittin turkey for whatever. You get the by the numbers cosmetics, that everyone else gets. I just find it a bit sad. Course, in the capitalist pursuit for wealth and security, it’s no surprise that peoples insecurities are being commodified now. How many Amazon’s can their really be? It’s about maximising what exists already. And one way to do that is by praying on insecurities and profiting from them. How many people 5-10yrs ago even cared about their lips? Now everyone is getting this look, that doesn’t even naturally suit how your face is. Not everyone can have thick lips. it just looks alien and looks obvious that this is not your natural beauty It’s a shame. Beauty to me, comes from your character and your facial quirks. Lots of history has passed down to produce the face you have. It’s like your unique identifier. To have that stripped away is a bit sad. It gets me thinking, if i ever had a daughter one day, I hope I’d be able to raise her with true empowerment and self confidence. Looks are not anything at all, who you are deep down is where your true beauty lies.
I think people forget that it's impossible to know how many people get plastic surgery (just by looking). Because if they had a good surgeon, you won't be able to tell.
A lot of people where I live get Botox & fillers around the chin and jawline and a nose job so they all look the same, I’m starting to get concerned tbh the Korean movie is accurate especially in this society “social media paste society “ it’s so normal right now it become part of this generation. ( I’m not against plastic surgery I just feel like the amount of the same procedures done is ridiculous they literally all going to look the same with plump lips and pointy chin and plus not everyone is going to look good with same procedures done)
Yes everyone wants the exact same nose and they all go to Turkey to get it, lots end up with a nose that’s either botched or doesn’t suit their face. I used to want a little ski sloped nose but not anymore because everyone has it and it may not suit me.
Learning to love ourself is probably the hardest things for many humans. I hope people who are "addicted" to cosmetic surgery seek help and find peace before they have regrets. Oh btw, I'm from Africa (South) to be exact where plastic surgery is done but not as commonly as in the rest of the world. Feeding ones family and educating our kids are definitely more of a priority.
unfortunately loving oneself is hard when the media bombard us with perfect images of women's facial and body ideals. What's worse is that social media, porn, magazines warp the opposite sex's perception of what the normal body looks like as well. So everyone's expectations are fucked up.
Finnish person here. Our beauty standard appreciates naturality, yet there are some people very infatuated with glamour too. The general beauty standard is a very natural looking woman who has the "no makeup-makeup"-look, so you have to look perfect but without actual makeup. Effortless, and looking like you just woke up looking like that. Same with body types. Certain european nationalities get more plastic surgery, for example from eastern europe.
I'm from Eastern Europe and people who actually live here almost never have plastic surgery, so idk where you got that idea from, TV shows I guess? Most girls here wear makeup that's not quite natural but not heavy either.
Eastern European there. Not to quote vine, but that is not correct, because according to the encyclopaedia of asdfghjkl. I think your mixing up Eastern Europe with someone else, sis (with peace and love)
@@SurfingBirdish Nah. Russians, Estonians, Latvians etc. do way more cosmetic procedures, and even in here most of the beauty studios are owned by them. There is even a procedure called "the russian lip fill". So your encyclopedia of asdfg is wrong.
@@Anzai66 I'm sorry if you are offended, but those most definitely are eastern europe. Finns even go to Estonia for plastic surgery usually. I also didn't say all people from eastern european countries. Didn't call out Serbia, Croatia, Bulgaria, Moldova etc.
6:59 my interpretation is that they botched the surgery, she's like blind now or something (hence why the doctor asks for her to open her eyes, and why she says shell be in trouble)? and her face there is her imagination. her family looks at her weird because her face is botched, but dont say anything bc she doesn't know it.
technically i got my first plastic surgery recently (top surgery, woohoo!) and i really cant understand how one could be addicted to surgeries, recovery is exhausting, you have to get stitches removed, infection risk, pain. the fewer surgeries i can get away with the better.
Now when I talk about being natural and why I won’t get plastic surgery or cosmetic enhancements I GET HATED ON. People HATE when you advocate for natural beauty because they are ashamed they can’t say that anymore about themselves.
I think I just feel like as long as we expect people to be beautiful in order to be treated kindly, but then punish people for getting surgeries to meet the beauty standards, we're not addressing the base problem. I don't want to advocate for natural beauty because I don't want our culture to focus so so much of just what women look like. I think the cure to a culture where plastic surgery is seen as necessary for so many people is just to accept people as they are.
Agree. There is a viral female TH-camrs who criticizes celebrities' cosmetic procedures and surgery but she looks like an Instagram model (maybe this is a stretch, but she IS conventionally attractive and she's clearly following beauty standards) ... Like of course you're going to be against it!
Same, I've never heard of her and was shook af when "sweden" popped up on the screen LMAO. Then again- I think fillers and more "casual" things are growing in popularity here.
@@Jenpaii_ Yes, I agree. I don’t think that there’s a lot of people that do extreme surgeries here in Sweden because it’s not as accepted here. But smaller things are getting more common.
I'm from Austria (Europe) and some people get surgery but only slight changes (more natural look). But i'm afraid that the us trend to get more and more done will become stronger in eu.. Plastic surgery is on the rise and i hate it
also from Austria and I've seen a lot of women recently that had a lot of (at least lips) work done. Also heard of young women from my city (19-21) getting boob jobs and their lips done. It's getting more common, though seemingly only among the girls with well-situated parents (naturally). Also hating this trend
I am from switzerland and i've lately noticed that tons of young woman (age 18-25) get lip injections or nose jobs. Especially lip injections became pretty standart to create these "duck lips".
At least hylauronic acid is a compound naturally produced by the body, is metabolized in months and can even be removed sooner using dissolving injections if the client really hates the results that much. Old people bang on about young people and their lip fillers all the time, but at least the results aren't permanent and safe in 99% of cases. My nan's generation plucked their eyebrows out of existence back when she was my age. That trend was permanent. She had to draw eyebrows on every day for the rest of her life. Young people in all generations jump to try new beauty trends to fit in with their peers while their prefrontal cortex finishes developing. Hell, I read they used to advertise cigarettes as a "weight loss product" to young women. I'm legitimately waiting with morbid curiosity to see what people 20 years from now will try strive to look like :D
Plastic surgery is very popular indeed.. I think it's cool when you have enough money to fix some "Imperfections" and boost your self-confidence BUT in most cases it's like a "never-ending cycle", basically you just never fully satisfied with your own looks and at the end you have so many surgeries that already ruined all the natural beauty. Yes, many of them start to look the same.
The movie 7:17 I think is from the girls perspective where she sees this faces that she draws and thinks everyone looks like that when in reality no one does and that's why everyone says no and that also explains the faces they give her faces of concern And in the end girl got the surgery but damaged her face which happens almost every time when getting a plastic surgery. And I also think this movie is about girls and there insecurities which is very accurate.
I’m in my 30s and have had cosmetic surgery once. It was to even my eyelids since one has been deformed since childhood because of a horrible eye infection. It genuinely has made me happier about myself but it’s still sad to me that I needed to alter my face in order to like it. I don’t want anything else done as I am genuinely content with myself.
She’s cheated death 5 times , bbls are deadly y’all , don’t do it
She’s getting her 6th too, her surgeons don’t care about her at all😰
Not cheated death completely yet. A fat embolism can happen at any moment in time.
What about fat grafting for boobs?
I had a period after abusive relationship where i really wanted bbl..
But seriously, man's approval isn't worth my only life i have...ill learn to love myself, even if it means being ugly and alone.
& they think we r joking☠️ commom yall do squats get a waist-trainer
I’ve learned how silly the phrase “this is how REAL WOMEN should look” is, especially when the person saying it is a woman - you’re a woman, that’s how you look, that’s it.
And how are those chin and cheekbone implants, lip fillers and 5 bbls are real 😓
Best example of brain wash can do. She's been manipulated by male gaze.
Yep
exactly !! some boys said to me that woman should be skinny to be considered attractive back in 2013 because I always was on curvier side but now skinnier women face the same problem with their bodies which is absolutely sad :( we are all real WOMEN , no matter how we look and how we choose to take care of ourselves.
@@shush2042 Exactly!!
Her lips are so full that it seems like she has trouble closing them and she has trouble talking right now too. I'd be shocked if that alone isn't giving her health problems. Also bbls are one of the most dangerous surgeries because.of the high risk of complications. This is just sad tbh
Breathing through your mouth a lot actually fucks up your teeth since your mouth isn't moist enough
@@MR-qi5lc it's not the breathing that's the problem. It's the fact that she can't close her mouth, which probably dries it out.
So true, and as if the health problems aren't bad enough, she can't even smile properly which is so sad! That removes so much personality from her; even though she has a fun personality it's like it can't even shine through as much because she can't smile. 😢 Everything she does looks like a struggle.
So scared that her lips would just “pop” the whole time.
And all those fillers (i assume she inject fillers) would just burst out.
@@cassette_tape indeed, she paid all that money to change her beautiful former self to what she has now become...smh🤔!
she was such a beautiful woman before she got all that shit done to herself. Such a shame people want to destroy themselves.
I don’t think she can help it….. It’s called severe body dysmorphia….
@@dnglbarys4brkfstexactly why she should go to a therapist and not to get plastic surgery, she’ll never get satisfied with her image
Can barely talk. 😢
@@dnglbarys4brkfst She can pour that money into therapy. At some point, it is a choice.
@@lisaschuster9305that’s rude.
I’ve seen people call cosmetic surgery “self care“ or “good for people with body dysmorphia” and it’s actually….. so fucked. There’s no guarantee surgery will change how you see yourself. It won’t make you magically love yourself. I don’t blame people for getting surgery because no one is unaffected by beauty standards etc, but I hate the industry.
Me too
hello also gender reassignment greatly profits that industry. How about accepting who we are whatever that comes with. Cant even be gay now without the chopping off of the genitals it seems, bbl, breast augmentation, and fillers.
and the worst part is, people call you anti feminist for supposedly being against the industry, or not supporting their ideas of considering plastic surgery somehow good for them.
Finally someone who says it without sugar coating it. Everyone can do whatever they wanna do but I'm tired of people acting as if it's completely normal to change your jaw shape or anything without a 100% guarantee that you'll like yourself after that.
Body dysmorphia is a mental illness, and it's not treated/cured by plastic surgery... that makes no sense
It's ironic how America is a very individualistic country yet many Americans who get plastic surgery do it to conform to beauty standards rather than to look "different"
I’ve often thought how similar many people with many tattoos look. Usually they have gauges, & face piercings too-many end up looking..like facsimiles of one another. They tend to be a group that also champion’s ‘individuality’ too. Lol. Sure..
They are all looking to fit in.
I don’t personally know anyone who’s had plastic surgery
i feel like it’s important to note that as an american the people who get plastic surgery are people who have some sort of notoriety on the internet, even if it’s just a couple thousand followers on social media they still have an audience. i as an average middle class american have never once met anyone who’s had plastic surgery. it’s always people with an audience
Well, yes and no in my opinion! I think what makes America individualistic is that each individual gets the choice and right to wear whatever they want - not that everyone’s fighting to stand out from one another.
Whereas in some more conservative countries (or many other places in the world) some things people enjoy wearing are frowned upon and shamed.
I think it’s individualistic in a way that people can freely express themselves with fashion/accessories and not feel like a complete outsider, because they will also find many others that are into the same aesthetics.
The video of Human Form, the girl actually died while getting her procedure. The doctor sent someone else back home, pretending to be her but because she had her surgery done the family didn’t notice. You can see how they’re puzzled at first, wondering who it is but seeing how she looks like them they don’t question it. It’s a very sad ending.
what really ? is it a theory or official ?
@@Overdosed_On_Tea if you read the subtitle they clearly say she don't open his eyes and they in trouble.
Oh wow! I didn’t get it!
I had no idea that happened shit is insane
What 😅
When I was a teenager, I was walking through a high end store in Beverly Hills. Saw 4 women with pretty much the same face that didn’t match the wrinkled hands/other body parts. It was so disturbing that I chose to never have plastic surgery. I’m now in my 50’s and look younger than my friends who had face lifts and other plastic surgeries. People should do what gives them confidence but I rather follow good skincare, drink plenty of water and look like myself.
That's noble and I agree with you for the most part. Unfortunately, "good skincare" will not get rid of my early jowls--something that runs in the family. I'm not even into my mid-20s and my genetics are already showing... it's not exactly something that raises one's spirits, you know? Plus I love to wear lipstick, but it's hard to justify buying expensive lipstick if nobody can see my upper lip, lmao. I don't want artificial sausage lips, but it would be nice if my lip was at LEAST visible. And let me tell ya, no lips and supple jowls do not exactly make me feel confident. I'm definitely pretty, and I think I get to say that as I have definitely gotten a lot of compliments here and there, but I'm not exactly thrilled to have the jawline of someone in their late 60s, and damn it I want to show off my lipstick!!!
Preventing wrinkles and loose skin does mostly come down to skincare and water, you are right. But there are some people out here who do want minor cosmetic surgeries without wanting to look like a robot!
@@nomoretwitterhandles I feel your pain. I've had frown lines (one deep and one minor) since I was in high school! I want Botox for just the eyebrows when I can afford it. It makes me look mean but I just frown when I'm thinking.
@@nomoretwitterhandlesBe carefull. Every plastic surgery addict started somewhere. Also the impact of those procedures in the future is not worth it. For example many people who got nosejobs have trouble breathing in their sleep. Lip adjustments may cause dental problems due to higher air exposure. You always need to have money ready to "fix" unwanted results and all of them possiable outcomes are impossiable to predict.
@AshleyWilliams-xq7lj before getting botox you should try castor oil. It's called nature's botox for a reason. Slather on face each night and massage into wrinkles, it'll take a few months to see results but it works.
The rule should be.
For health reasons, give it a year unless it's a life long issue.
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For aging, give it 5 yrs.
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For drooping skin.
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It depends but give it 2 years after work outs.
Same for aesthetics.
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In general.
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Keep it under 15 percent for the first 10 yrs and consider where u fit in the previous categories.
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Also don't forget you can't undo an accident out of your control if it doesn't work out.
In case u take a cheap route
For Europe there are things like do whatever makes you happy but you do get judged for whatever you do so most people prefer to not stand out
You put it so well! I am impressed
Pretty much yeah 🥲
so true
that sums it up perfectly
That's literally the West lol
I'm from Norway and plastic surgery is not very common here, but lip injections and botox etc are on the rise among younger women.
Totally agree, I don’t think I know of anyone who has done anything - but it’s very accepted and not looked down upon!
I can definitely confirm this to be true
Aren't Norway woman one of the most finest woman in the western world? No wonder there is no surgery
Heisann!
Sweden, Norway, and UK girls love the lip injections haha
Natasha has a funny/fun personality, she just looks extremely frightening. the guy on the date actually seems cool as shit too
I thought the same for the guy, very respectful and mature with his vocabulary
I wonder how differently the date would have gone if there haven't been any cameras.
@@zymantesa I’m wondering about that too 😂
I think that's because of the cameras lol
@@zymantesa it could’ve gone in either direction I think 😂
I feel so bad for Natasha. It’s obvious she’s got a good heart and personality, but she has seriously deformed her face and body. I hope she’s not running from trauma, and whatever is going on, she can get help for soon.
She is.... Ahem.
For sure, someone hurt her really really bad.
She needs psychiatric help
I wish people had to get screened by a psychologist for body dysmorphia before plastic surgery. If they have it then they’re not aloud to get the surgery. So many people will never stop bc they have a mental illness and their body will literally never be enough unless they go to therapy
Don't feel bad. She is the one that has to feel bad for herself. I look at this humpty-dumpty and think, "what happened?!" She has so much fillers, her neck is three times the width of her forehead.
The guy that went on the blind date was so respectful! Perfect example of how to turn someone down.
Damn yes, he was so polite, poor man.
As a swede myself, I can say he represends the sweds very well. Most of us aren't rude or really care about what other people do, their body, their choise.
He was in tv tho. Lol 😂
handled it beautifully
@@mamathemeat Most people don't really think about the "this is now going out to the world forever, I should think about what I say"... And also most tv shows want the scandalous, so the fact this dude didn't say something mean or scandalous that TV execs could milk for drama says a LOT. Usually those types of shows fish for the most rude setups they can find.
(I mean look, tell me it doesn't smell like the programme arranged that blind date for max incompatibility shock value: old fashion trad rural boy meets cosmopolitan large hyper-caricatured woman? That's not a blind date, that's a blatant dramamongering attempt.
As a German I can say that in general people don’t get plastic surgery a lot. In the eye of the public, visible plastic surgery is also very much disliked especially because there are some other bad stereotypes linked to it. But there is definitely a rise among young woman and it’s getting more normal lately.
Especially when it comes to lip fillers I think :') And many of them start at a young age too. As far as I know you only have to be 16 years old to get your lips done..
I actually know a lot of people that got fillers or Botox but it’s not visible, they still look average
(North rhine Westphalia)
Yeah, in Germany (at least where I live) most young women get lip fillers if they get ANYTHING done, and they’ll usually get eyelash extensions. The only reason I haven’t yet is because the lip filler isn’t permanent and I don’t want to waste the money. 😭😂
@@drkmryl6875 yes i see more of lip fillers in germany the past months
I’ve given birth to six children and my abdominal muscles were f*cked. I couldn’t do core exercises and it was causing back issues, so I had an abdominoplasty (tummy tuck) done last year. I don’t regret it at all and, while it was a cosmetic procedure, I almost consider it reconstructive since it allowed me to work out again.
However, I can definitely see how plastic surgery can be addictive and dangerous to your self-image, especially if you live your life on social media and crave attention and likes.
The line between cosmetic and medically necessary is very blurry. I’m glad you had a great experience. I think a good counter to it is just better pre-procedure education and counselling.
I feel like your surgery was an actual medical need. There's a difference. You didn't go out to get some fake lips or nose job for no reason. You were in actual pain and suffering.
@@ashes_menagerie Agreed. They repair the muscles. It’s not really cosmetic.
Plastic surgery is definitely made for someone like you! Love that it helped you!
After my mom gave birth to two giga babies (me and my older brother) she had a tummy tuck too because she couldnt even go to the toilet properly. So yeah, I agree with you.
Even in places where individually is "encouraged", being unique is only accepted if it falls into what's socially acceptable
Do y’all remember when the miss South Korea pageant was so blighted by surgical procedures the judges couldn’t tell the participants apart?
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What year was that?
That sounds kinda horrible and hilarious at the same time.
@@NoName12344o I think it was 2013?? It was allll over the media. So plastic surgery was the initial issue, that they had all undergone a similar set of procedures in an effort to look “perfect” and ended up very homogeneous, but after some deeper analysis it was also a bit of photoshop that contributed to the judges confusion.
Either way, it’s really sad and oddly comical.
You’ll find it on the internet, I remember these grid images of women and they weren’t IDENTICAL, but there was a definite absence of unique “imperfections” that make people look like individuals.
@@KateCarew i definitely have look into it, thank you for your answers.
This sounds soo crazy
@@NoName12344o it was one of those cultural moments where people did take pause and think “whoa, maybe we’ve gone too far?”
Yes! I don’t remember if it was particularly the Miss Korea 2013, but there was one where I believe Girls’ Generation Sooyoung was like an MC or something and there’s a photo of her and them and they all look so similar while she looked different and stood out.
I think the woman from Sweden seemed like such a sweet, fun person, and I'm not against cosmetic surgery, but she has so much filler in her face she sounds like she's having a hard time talking clearly and that is insane. If she is truly happy then ok, fillers do dissolve over time so if she's tired of the look she can just stop getting injections, but she'll be left with a saggy face and will need more surgery. I worry for people like this because the issue is that they'll never be satisfied and where tf are they getting the money for this
Agreed. And if she really wanted to get rid of her fillers in a hurry, most fillers have a solvent counterpart that can be injected to reverse the fillers. I can't imagine how she can feel comfortable with her face skin stretched like that though. I got a knot on my head once, and the skin over the swelling felt uncomfortable and painful. Face skin isn't meant to stretch like that.
Agreed, she seems like a fun person to hang out with. Honestly, whilst her bum implants are huge they look okay in my opinion, but I'm not a fan of the fillers. At least fillers are easier to reverse than a bbl
Fillers dont dissolve, they migrate. Thats why her face is so puffy, its overfilled, and she keeps making it worse
No filters don't dissolve. There is a great video about it from a plastic surgeon that explains how the filters don't just go away but actually stay in the face and how someone else said already "migrate" to other parts of your face. You would have to get a specific injection for it to dissolve.
sad thing is that fillers dont fully dissolve on their own and can be permanent..
Natasha is a hilarious and sweet woman but my god she’s completely disfigured herself. The amount of filler makes her look monstrous and quite scary honestly.
Agree, she's so positive but I hope she wont get too addicted...
@@indind1174 she already has gotten too addicted, 6 BBLs is seriously extreme
Am worried for his blind date.
she looks very cute in her school photos and i bet there are people out there would get surgeries to look like her before
really wish she would've seen how good she looked before. and the guy made a really valid point: "so you traded fitness for surgeries?" on the surface, it's obvious, but the part that stands out is how she *totally abandoned* fitness versus just adding surgeries to do some extra stuff she wanted.
take Kim K... obviously surgeries. but, you can tell she has to do stuff to maintain her figure as well.
this woman.... someone said she looked disfigured and i have to agree. the thick neck points to being overweight and unhealthy, and that's without even getting to the plastic surgery part. it just makes me feel sad, and awkward. and it's hard to understand how she truly feels she looks sexy. she's carrying herself and acting as if the body she's in is a coy, seductive type, and she *can't* pull it off, not with the face she has crafted.
i'm not trying to be negative on her. i just don't understand how there is such a disconnect, that she isn't seeing all of this. her current state looks like where you'd be STARTING, not the current chosen progress.
My good friend worked in the oldest breast surgery clinic in Poland and told me that oftentimes clients would ask for changes that would be too drastic or unhealthy for them and the clinic had to refuse. Which, mind you, is not something most clinics do in America because here it's all about making profit using and abusing idiots.
Many times the drastic surgeries are done in Mexico or Korean.
Here in Italy everyone is supposed to look "natural", so as long as your surgery isn't noticeable it's ok, same things with makeup and pretty much everything in life.
Yes!
True. They are more toned down. Even if they have non Standard imperfections, they know how to work it.. the French are good with that.
Ik which country I'm moving too know
@@izek402 although Italy is very obsessed with beauty, I feel like in general people here are more relaxed. They may judge you but if you know how to definirle yourself, people will respect you. It's not a country for weak willed or weak minded people 🤣
Naturally good shaped
I'm from Europe and I feel like plastic surgery is uncommon unless it's for medical reasons, but then Europe has many different countries with different views so I don't think you can generalise the whole continent
Yeah, I think we should separate it into 3 parts - Northern Europe, Western Europe and Eastern Europe. Just how he referred to Eastern Asia rather than *Asia*
Edit : As Юлия Соломко pointed it out, we could even separate it in 4 (NE, WE, Slavic EE and Balkan EE)
I’ve always thought if I had enough money for plastic surgery, what would I change? I decided if I have enough money, i should give it to someone who needs it for medical reasons. Now that I’m older, I see more and more parts of me that could be changed for the better, but I have a strong desire to save every dollar. I’m not sure why. I guess it’s for bribing the nursing home staff to get better care!
@@mayohooe1397 and Eastern Europe can be separated into Slavic Countries and Balkan Countries
Юлия Соломко Thanks for pointing it out! My knowledge of Eastern Europe is pretty limited so that makes more sense :)
It's not like I'm offended (I'm not saying that you are!) but generalising a whoooole continent with sooo many countries, cultures, languages, traditions, histories.......
I just dislike generalisations overall.
I sure generalise once in a while too, I try not to.
Frankly I've been horrified by plastic surgery culture and the flippant way we're expected to go along with it. the damage it has and will continue to inflict on young women in particular is immense and immeasurably evil.
Agreed
It's changing society for the worse. The thought of it truly disgusts me.
@@wolfieyThen plastic surgery helped your dad, good for him! But I don't think that industry is as predatory towards men luckily
It's concepts like "preventative botox" for me. Trying to get young women hooked on these damaging procedures that don't work.
It's honestly terrible, and horrifying- the whole plastic surgery community feels like it belongs on that one subreddit, r/dystopiannightmare _(I think)_
The original Twilight Zone series also had an episode about plastic surgery called "Number 12 Looks Just Like You". It's very good and basically the same premise as that Korean film but done way before!
Great episode. Only difference is that girl was totally ok with how she looked, everyone else wasn't.
My first thought too! Classic episode.
@@joshuanoriega5680 didn't they also have "artificial happiness" pills that you only took after you got the surgery? And her dad killed himself in pursuit of finding a more individualized/unique way of life? This episode is one of my top ten faves in terms of Twilight Zone episodes! 😊
@@rebeccadunahoo9201 Yup... they just don't make TV like they used too
I hate how celebrities be like “love yourself” when you literally brought your whole face and body 😐 you clearly didn’t “love yourself” so you had to get a whole new face and body. Cough cough kardashians
cough cough *kylie* lol😂
for damn sure
you can love yourself and get plastic surgeries, those aren’t mutually exclusive
@@naurrrre thats what they want you to believe
@@naurrrre that is an intrinsically contradictory argument that will fall apart with the barest of critical thinking lol
In my teens skinny body and plucked eyebrows were the in thing and it messed with my self image. Now thicc thighs and thick eyebrows are the in thing, aka what my body naturally has. Society and trends change, it's not easy to love yourself sometimes but it's worth it in the long run.
Been learning that women's bodies go in and out of style all the time.. so you may as well just love who you are :)
@@roxylalondes There is also this pathetic thing of cultural trends, in which people literally consider "beautiful" shit that's not natural for their ethnicity to have. Colorism in India is a very good example of this, but there is something similar in every culture.
Like in italian culture for some reason, being blonde, tall and thin(like, no-ass kind of thin) is considered very desirable for women, while natural mediterranean women are literally known for their dark hair\eyes, olive skin, petite figures and generous curves. The sort of bullshit that is pushed onto women is so stupid lmao
The eyebrows really suddenly shifted. One summer everyone was plucking their eyebrows and the next it was thick eyebrows. Girls that used to pluck them just could not fit that image. I never really plucked them, but also don't have the thickest eyebrows. It is a race you can't win anyway
Aaah the 90s where we developed anorexia and bulima
@@DeadKrakenpeople want what they can't have
I had 1 plastic surgery procedure to “fix” a part of my body that wasn’t necessarily “wrong” but was outside the norm enough that it affected my self esteem and happiness every day. So I had the 1 procedure and have never looked back, I invested in a good surgeon and took proper after care and 5 years later I am beyond pleased that I did my procedure.
But after I had it done, I was immediately inundated by women suggesting I get more. Women saying things akin to “you look great, now what will you get next?” And would insinuate that since I had my one procedure done successfully and was happy, that logically I should get more procedures and become even more happy. Of course I did not succumb to this pressure since I never did it to please others in the first place, but I found it very weird that other women immediately started suggesting I get filler and implants in places I never had a problem with.
It is great that we live in a scientifically advanced world so we can do these procedures, but the lowered prices and easier access is definitely leading people to do things they probably should not. People think just because they can, there’s no reason they shouldn’t, but in the end they turn into plastic surgery monsters
oo.o
Yeah it really doesn't help especially if the person given these suggestions are the kind of people with addictive personalities
My plan is to just never let anybody know if I get something done, since I don’t want any commentary on it, nor do I want that to be part of what people think about when they see me. It’s a strange world…
My grandpa's friend had always like stereotypical pretty face aside from a big big nose, and she was always self concious about it like extremely that it affected her personality. She had her nose done as a wedding gift and it greatly improved how she sees herself.
There are no universal standards of beauty, but there are some universal standards of ugliness.
I have a few (mostly non-surgical) procedures picked out but I did a lot of research with a clear end result I want and clear reasons why. I can’t imagine winging it.
Natasha is a sweet woman and it’s sad that she clearly suffers from body dysmorphia. no one goes through such great and dangerous lengths to change their body this much without having a sadly messed up image of themselves.
for some people this dysmorphia causes an eating disorder, for others it becomes a gym and healthy food addiction, and she belongs to the third kind where plastic surgery takes over.
she doesn’t deserve to be called monstrous for this, bringing her self-esteem down aint gonna help her. I genuinely don’t think she’s ugly, I’m just sad she couldn’t find herself beautiful before and still doesn’t now.
As someone who is studying to be a plastic surgeon, BBLs are so dangerous. This is neglect and any surgeon who agrees to a 6th BBL deserves to have their license revoked. My goal is to open my own practice, and we will not be performing BBLs there.
Most American surgeons won't perform bbls. That's why most Americans go out of the states.
best of luck! it sounds like you have your ethics in order
Bbls have a extremely high death rate
Glad to hear this. I think it’s too dangerous and should be outlawed. When 1 in 3,000 people die from this procedure, that’s not acceptable. I wouldn’t allow women with children to do it because they deserve to have a mother who is still alive vs one with enhanced buttocks.
Whoever did 3rd and following should get their license revoked too
I was born with a cleft lip and palette. I have a visible scar on my face from getting corrective surgery when I was a baby. My last procedure I had with a dental implant to replace a missing tooth and honestly I’m so happy. My doctor told me if I ever feel like I want my nose done or my lips done to give them a call anytime. But I don’t think I’ll ever get anything else done. I’m happy with the way I look. I’m beautiful and it doesn’t matter what anyone else says.
Alas! My kin!! I was as well. And it's been so rare for me to encounter another. In my situation when I was 13 my parents because they were ashamed felt the need to get me a nose job. Post surgery though everything was very natural and besides from having a barely visible scar like yourself, it's like people still want it to keep me down and keep me stuck in this identity and in shame. Excited to return to school with my new look (though I still had packing in my nose and nose swelling) ... kids are assholes. Among many of the heinous things said and done "N$gg+r lips"(n word) was a favorite and now everybody is getting lip injections to have the full lips that I've always had. Unfortunately many of the assault and chronic verbal shaming, I turned to maladaptive coping ways. That screwed up a large portion of my early adult life. Apologies for such an extensive response I've only met two other people with the same one being my brother (crazy rare) and another who was a pretty not cool person as he carried damage from his childhood as well. Would love to talk outside of here!
Don’t ever get plastic surgery from a dentist. It’s not exactly regulated any doctor can do plastic surgery even if they are not board surgery
I agree you are beautiful (well idk what you look like but still lol)
To me, replacing a missing tooth isnt a cosmetic surgery since you literally need teeth to eat and stay alive ❤️
Oh I have known a girl with that too! For some reason I thought her scar was really beautiful. It kind of gave her the edge and made her stand out in a good way :) I am sure you have the same charme to you :D
That blind date wasn't fair for either of them. They set that up hoping for a scene but thankfully they didn't get it.
Yes.. but it was very nice to see his mature reaction :)
Yes it was!
Absolutely. That guy was a real champ. Clearly a bit weirded out, but like "I'll be polite, have dinner and conversation, no big deal"
I was so SHOCKED how cool and nice he was, that's amazing how respectful and polite he reacted
Swedes are just classy bunch, coming from a finn 😊
Swede here, and whilst we are an individualistic country, plastic surgery is looked down on as fake and trashy by most people, but Sweden truly is the kingdom of letting people down gently and not criticizing people to their faces, so the guy's reaction was fairly standard for Swedes.
"this is what a real woman should look like"
opinion about plastic surgery itself aside...how can one use the word *real* in that when it's surgeries? i get it's probably like, a rhetorical or metaphorical use of the word real, but...
(also i dont want to rag on her as a person. she seems bubbly and friendly in what i've seen here)
That’s what I was thinking!
At some point you gotta do some mrntal gymnastics to excuse your surgery spending.
Maybe i think too much about that statement but it feels so weirdly contradicting to me, simply because her goal is to show what real women should look but it's only achievable with surgery.
@@annesophie4037 yeah, it is contradicting like that. although i feel it's maybe a little more of an abstract use of the word "real", such as used in phrases like "real men wear pink". idk how to explain it past that though aside from perhaps just used as a way of saying "this is what women should strive for", which feel like it may be a good interpretation. still a little messed up even so to say that people should strive for one standard and one standard only, but i really dont think she meant it that deeply nor do i really think/am trying to say she's as harsh as this interpretation sounds. in my opinion though *any* iteration of "real women are skinny/have curves/have fillers/whatever" is harmful in its own right
In all honesty, I think it's what she feels She should look like. She probably doesn't want all other women to look like that because than she isn't unique anymore.
As someone from Germany I've never seen someone who had plastic surgery. It's probably because I'm from a smaller city, but I'd argue that plastic surgery is by far not as common here as it is in America or south Korea. Some people do express themselves through colorful hair, tattoos and piercings, but plastic surgery is very uncommon and mostly only done if there's a medical reason.
The thing with plastic surgery is that most people who get a procedure actually keep looking very natural and that those very plastic-y people are outliers.
I mean, lets take a look at BibisBeautyPalace: Miss girl got a nose and boob job but you would not know if you'd just look at her.
I do think plastic surgery is a lot more common in germany (and europe) than we think - we just don't see it because generally people like to keep the natural look -, though I also believe it's not as extreme as f.ex. south korea nor the us.
Same
lol it's very common just look at german influencers even promoting it and putting their code to get % off lmao
@@khuzla honestly I haven't even thought about influencers when writing my comment xD, yes it's probably more common for them... But yeah still not as common as it is elsewhere
i was reading through thinking i also never knew anyone who has had plastic surgery, well, maybe except this one girl… and she is an influencer lol
I'm from Hungary in Europe and here plastic surgery is not common, wealthy people do it here, but just smaller procedures, like botox, lip fillers in smaller amount. Some people sometimes do here bust or bum implants, but usually they are upper class women or upper class sex workers, because plastic surgery here is mainly for health reasons, after an accident for example.
All hungarian and bulgarian woman in The Netherlands are completly changed in to these weard looking sex dolls so your answer is not correct.
Meg egy magyar 😊
I am from Hungary too, you forget to mention the liposuction is quite common, especially of Instagram fit models who are sponsored. Liposuction is not so expensive for these kind of people. It is not a luxury anymore.
It’s the same here in Germany. In Germany I feel like lip fillers are the most common, along with eyelash extensions. (Although the eyelash extensions aren’t considered a surgical cosmetic procedure.)
It can sort of give everyone the same face though.
Yeah if you look like that is eastern europe people will think you are working in sex industry ,and a lot of guys will make fun of you with that huge lips .Plus girls that look like that they are usually with guys that are not usually doing legal stuff ...
i was dismorphophobe when i was young (i was hating myself and seeing me too ugly that i was hiding most of the time). i never did surgery; i only tried to killed myself but i came back! now i am 55, i have wrinkels and gray hairs, but i love myself because in my life i did a lot of beautifull actions. i helped people, children, handicaped, animals, i found love, and happyness and i really don't care to be old and ugly. i am smart, funny, and free! and i guess i start to understand that life is to become the best soul of ourself, at the end this old vessel wich is our body will die anyway but my soul would be wiser.
I think that plastic surgeries are way more common than we think. It's just that 90% of plastic surgeries are so subtle that a normal person wouldn't recognize it. Especially without knowing the person before. it's just the more extreme cases that get a lot of attention and mostly don't look natural or normal anymore.
yeah. that actually reminds me of a story: so after completing filming for the movie version of the musical Annie, Carol Burnett - who played Miss Hannigan - had plastic surgery so, in her words, she "would actually have a chin." She then was told sometime after the procedure that they were reshooting the whole "Easy Street" sequence (which she was prominently featured in). She jokes that in the final film she walked into the closet at the start of the scene with one chin and left with another, lol. Honestly I never would have noticed if she hadn't pointed it out.
There's also the fact that it isn't always for cosmetic reasons, so sometimes it can be genuinely beneficial. I have a deformed nose (internally, so it's not noticeable until I fold it over and scare people) and if I got a nose job to straighten it back out inside I could breathe better. Breast reductions help people who have such heavy chests that it hurts them with the weight, so those are fairly popular too. But due to the fact that the most visible surgeries are the more obvious and cosmetic ones, it probably shapes the public eye about it strongly because, well, we *don't* see the "normal" ones, because they look normal.
It's so normal now that I really think most people don't realize how many common features aren't natural. Boobs that hold cleavage without a push-up? Silicone. Cheeks that clap? BBL. Super even white teeth? Veneers. Sick muscles? Steroids. And I'd bet +90% of everyone who's professionally in front of a camera has fillers and/or Botox.
People actually get both their legs broken just to get 1-2" closer that 6' mark! That procedure used to be super rare and only for major deformities, but now it's for insecure tech bros 😓
True, a lot of people don't think too deep into it, but if you've been in any kind of accident that has left you with physical scarring (not just facial scarring either) that affects your mental health (I don't know if a professional would refer to it as body dysmorphia) you will probably be offered plastic surgery to reduce the scarring. I had a friend that I've lost touch with that I met when I was 15 that had a very big long scar down her spine from a medical procedure ( I'm sorry, I don't remember what condition she had) and she was very self-conscious about that scar. She was actually waiting on openings to get it to look at least a little less obvious with plastic surgery, the hospital offered to do it after the previous surgery to save her life. Most people wouldn't think about it as plastic surgery or are aware that someone would have gone through plastic surgery for that reason but it's still cosmetic surgery.
Same thing applies to trans people. A trans mastectomy for example (removing your chest and making it look more male) usually takes two surgeons, one of them plastic surgeon. I don't know if people think too deeply into that but they are cosmetic surgeries, they just don't fall under the usual stereotype of extreme plastic surgery. They're body dysphoria related instead of dysmorphia related (I think?).
I think that the 60 or 70% of the people are using plastic surgery as a way of help with their daily things, because of something that happened to them physically
While the other percent want to look perfect, or pretty, or to fit the standard
I think like.. 10% did get plastic surgery because they wanna stand out or some goal
Her face fillers are monstrous honestly. That's body/face dysphoria or something to feel like you have to become that.
Yeah exactly
That movie looks thought provoking. While I don’t love everything that comes with a more individual-focused culture, I do enjoy unique, creative, and healthy forms of self-expression.
There was a twilight zone episode similar to this.
Wasn’t the twilight episode where the woman is turned into a pig or something?
@@sydneygrace3745 All the normal ppl had a pig snout but she was beautiful, and she was trying to have surgery to look like them but it didn't work. It was basically a 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' episode.
Well put
o.o
"There are scarier things to draw, like those monkey NFTs" is genuinely the funniest joke I have ever heard
I feel like people like Natasha have a very deep problem with normalcy. Some people don't understand that being normal is okay, and they do things like these to add to their "personality". I know she does what she wants with her body, but I wonder if she's ever been to a therapist.
There is truly so much beauty in accepting your life can be simple & inexpensive. In being satisfied with what you’re given and can give. Because if you have little health issues, have friends or family, food and shelter, and some means to have fun and see beauty around you, or connect to nature…wow…you are rich. Just to not be suffering in life makes one very rich and is worth being satisfied with.
@@electriksnake Ehhhh, I've got those and I still want to body-mod. Mostly because I see my body as a canvas. It's up to me to mold and shape it as I want it to be, because I'm not doing it for others, but for myself.
The key point is that I'm doing it _for me_ and I don't factor in other people's opinions. And also I have a pretty solid grasp on biology and what the consequences of something are, and I'm not taking any BS "you must suffer to be beautiful/suffer for your art" masochistic view, either.
I consider it my investments, instead of buying a bunch of expensive decorations and merch and sprucing up my place I spruce myself up and commission people to draw on me instead of drawing on paper or digital canvases.
A lot of these extreme cases are body dysmorphia or plastic surgery addiction...
I definitely don't think you can judge a society based on the crap you see in the entertainment industry or these crazy tv shows that focus on outrageous people. In general tho, everyone wants to fit in and conform to not feel like an outcast, however, there is a line that one shouldn't cross just to fit in. It's different for everyone.
I think most cosmetic works boil down to body dysmorphia, someone who looks fine will still go and get "this and that" bigger or smaller or whatever. I've been a victim of it myself and am so glad I didn't get anything done, would have felt demeaning to myself.
o.o
Impressive you are in everyone's head and Know everyone! It's ignorant when people assume what they watch and the people that they know=the whole world I have never want to fit in. In general I never had the opportunity to as a young child because of glaring differences but I've always been to my own drum. How sad and limiting it would be to have such a ridiculous fear, you could potentially deny your authentic self. How old are you by the way ?maybe you're speaking from the perspective of somebody still in high school or just emerging from high school. That would make more sense.
@@nonenone9892 It's actually basic psycholgy... it can be trying to fit in through physical traits or by acting a certain way, but it's still the desire to not be an outcast.
Maybe check yourself first instead of thinking that the comment is purely talking about only what is presented in the video.
In a way, it's a turn off (plastic surgery) because it presents a deceptive version of oneself. Imagine you were selecting a mate and their appearance is the first thing that attract you to them immediately. Naturally, most of us are programmed and wired to select the best looking mate who possesses good genetics. Now we can't rationalise it but once we know what we think is beautiful is fake, it immediately devalues the object that we used to idolise. I know I feel the same way knowing my favorite celebrities got work done to look like they do now. Same way certain models or natural beauties are envied is because it's rare and seem unattainable. Nowadays, even the average masses can get work done and look beautiful, beauty is no longer a rare commodity, which I find is quite scary.
In Germany there are a lot of individualistic people, colourful hair, Tattoos, piercings, stuff like that. But on the other hand there are also a lot of people that want to fit in, like all dresses the same,same haircut and color. It really depends how you want to be and what friends you have
i think it also really depends on where you live, it's easier to dress more individualistic and "extra" when you live in a big city like berlin or hamburg. if you live in a smaller city everyone is going to stare like crazy and maybe even whisper or make rude comments, so you'd probably try to not stand out to avoid that. idk what's up with germans, but german people stare soooo much at everything that's "outside the box" and it's so uncomfortable
@@nicki4608 I've lived in a small city with colorfull hair and yes, they stare, but I just didn't care what others thought about my appearance any more.
That Korean movie reminds me of a twilight zone episode with Avery similar plot, except the main girl in that episode didn’t want plastic surgery to look like everyone else and everyone else was crazy. She is forced into a psychiatric hospital and realizes that the transformation isn’t optional, like they say and she has to have it no matter what, even though she loves herself. So she undergoes the surgery and ends up looking just like her friend. I remember watching that with my dad a few years back and being like woah, that’s still relevant today.
That korean doll movie was actually terrifying. My literal reaction to their faces was holy cheezits
Is it bad I thought it'd be cute as a gothic mask....
@lenovo9269 good for Halloween in S. KOREA.
@@shanishine38 #scaring my grandparents 101
The Korean film reminded me of a book I read called pretty. It’s set in the future and at the age of 18 everyone gets a free plastic surgery to make them perfect and makes them look the same as everyone else. Those under 18 are kept away from the the rest of society in special zones until they have had their surgery. It’s a good but weird read.
Omg, was it part of that trilogy Uglies, Pretties, and finally Perfects? Now that you reminded me of that, I have to say it was ahead of its time.
Uglies/Pretties/Specials/Extras (series) by Scott Westerfeld
I remember reading it when I was 17 and identifying sooooo much
I remember that book! Forgot the title. Put me off plastic surgery as a teen and can same it's still working it's magic 12 years later...
I love that series
Natasha is actually hilarious. She has a great sense of humor despite all the surgery and wanting more. She seems like fun to be around
She really does have a bomb personality and I’m glad bc you gotta have thick skin and confidence to walk around with all those surgeries
I’ve dealt with body dysmorphia since I was 10/12 (10 and 12 and to this day for different reasons unfortunately) and I feel so bad for people who overdue it, it’s a nightmare to feel like this.
The thing is plastic surgeries don't help in most cases cause there's a problem with a brain, not with a body. And ppk should try to heal their psychological state, not the body or face
Can we normalize the normal human body!! With flaws and lumps and bumps. We are all beautifully broken and we should celebrate that instead!! Great video 🌟
The fact that you think normal human bodies that have lumps and bumps as flaws or "beautifully broken" makes me think you still have that perfect beauty standard mindset despite thinking that normal bodies should be "celebrated" when it should be just as normal as daily life stuff.
@@skrrtskrrt2410 Wrong!!!!! Your missing the point. We live in a plastic world. My body doesn't fit here.
glasses.
@@skrrtskrrt2410 I think they meant that since a lot of people see these lumps etc as "flaws" it should be actually considered normal. "can we normalize the normal human body" as in no human body is perfect and flawless. It's a good take i think. Why try to be "perfect" in a world where everyone at the end of the day is "imperfect".
We're moving to another direction now, sad to say. Plastic surgeries are being glamorized
We're only individuals to a certain extent. Things like plastic surgery we do because of the society/for the society. No one really does it solely for themselves.
@hello true, but most of those have medical reason, even though they are cosmetic. (Large breast can cause back pain and posture trouble, loose skin can cause painful friction, etc) If you are doing something simply to change your appearance, it is hard to argue that it is solely for yourself since society dictates the beauty standard.
@@leonardo.diCATio of course it’s more complicated than what I said. And in the cases of accidents the surgery is usually considered reconstructive plastic surgery, which I fully support. I was just saying that a lot of the surgeries themselves are designed to make a person fit societal beauty standards. Everyone thinks differently but we all have been impacted in one way or another by things like history, the media, and our social circles
@@leonardo.diCATio stop digging yourself in a hole. Most people who get cosmetic surgery are doing it to appear attractive to other people.
@@starnighty4996 That's not digging a hole. Those are valid points.
@@starnighty4996 If that's what you think then everything you do, what you choose to wear, how you style your hair, or any other body modifications whether it be make up/tattoos/hair dye is not really an individual choice but moreso to appear attractive to other people.
I also fell for this plastic surgery craze, you could say. I got a boob job @ 22 years old. I thought I would love it but I didn’t. They were huge and restrictive. I couldn’t work out, move, sleep, etc... like I wanted. Fast forward to 25 years old, I got my implants removed and had to have a minor revision surgery while they took out the implants. Bottom line, I will never be the same. Also $ lost.
I’m grateful that comparatively, I got a more minor plastic surgery enhancement to other surgeries.
Ppl should think more about the “what if’s” surrounding a less than desired outcome from their plastic surgery. Know the risks but above all, love yourself. It may take you to change permanently to figure out that the old you was so awesome.
Nobody wants to talk about the reality: having larger boobs suck. It's harder to find clothes and yes, they get in the way. And they get sore and all that.
@@rosesweetcharlotte Ugh agree finding the right size for a bra is so difficult
I'm a 32F and it's terrible. I'm so jealous of women who can wear clothes without a bra, workout with a basic sports bra instead of strapping myself down with engineering
thats one of the reasons im planning on getting a breast reduction, along with the pain, a big chest is awful in daily life
I'll never understand getting bigger boobs. I've always had big ones and it sucksssss. Pain, sweat, expensive bras, clothes look bad or overly sexual.
What a guy, how he mustered up to present so polite, while all his face read "does-not-compute". That is some super-human effort!
I'm Swedish and she's veeeeeery rare. Swedes have a word called lagom which means not too much not too little; just right and we are usually lagom in every way. If you look at Zara Larsson, Pewdiepie, the Skarsgård brothers etc you can see that people tend to look more natural even if they're celebrities. She is mega Oli vibes.
Me: How much should I put on your plate?
Them: Just lagom is fine 😇☺️🙃
Me internally: WHAT. HOW MUCH IS LAGOM FOR THIS PERSON. WHAT DO YOU MEAN????
Ngl this was an issue in my life when I was younger 😂🥲
My lagom isn't your lagom! 😁
(someone reading, communicate with the person. "is this ok? Or more?")
o.o
True and they're natural and average. Nothing crazy and nothing too much going on! Less is more!
She and Oli will make a good couple.
Zara Larsson is one of the prettiest celebrities I've ever seen
When I was 15 years old I had otoplasty, blaming my ears for all the bullying at the awful school I was attending. The recovery took 2 months and it was brutal, don't let anyone tell you the ''you are up and back to your activities next day'', I had to sleep like a vampire in a casket because turning around would mess the results. Fast forward to new year, I had new ears and the bullies found new things to harass me about. Looking back, I needed my narcissistic parents to tell me that I am good enough and not pay for stupid, unnecessary surgery or to at least change schools, but you know how it is with narcissists, you are never good enough and no matter what happens you will be blamed. I believe that a lot of people like Oli have similar traumatic experiences as me and use plastic surgery to cope and I was lucky to not end up a plastic surgery addict. I fully support plastic surgery when it's needed (for example for reconstructive reasons, when it severely impacts a person's life etc), but not to mask other psychological problems. Karma does exist though, because the same mean girls who bullied me at now broke, disheveled, nobodies in the same JerkWater Heights we attended school at. Oh well.
Sorry that happened to you. All you can do is be a better parent when you have your own kids.
"When you have your own kids"? It's "if", not when. Stop pushing children onto everyone
@@SeriSeashell bro it's just a single reply, they're not "pushing children onto everyone", calm down maybe? what a strange overreaction.
@@ReiAnikaAyanamiwelcome to the new generation of people. Thought policing and picking apart words to twist them. How do they live??
Narcissistic? How??
America has a very "look at me, it's my turn for fame" pop culture, so it's not surprising that many people are desperately looking for the "perfect" look to outshine the others before
That's so true. Everyone here gets plastic surgery to look perfect and stand out from the rest. They want to be idolized for matching the beauty standards, but they don't realize that if everyone else is getting the same plastic surgery to look perfect, then no one stands out. I noticed this is happening with celebrities and influencers who are all beginning to look the same as more and more get the ponytail face-lift, Kardashian body, and fake lips.
Not in America, but in USA
@@greenbeancasserole2937 who is everyone? You'd think living in this country for almost three decades I'd know someone who had plastic surgery because they wanted to be more like the influencers but I don't.
It's definitely not an American movie but go off about one place in the world as if it's not a global problem queen.
@@ejedwards1678 daddy chill
As a Swedish person, I was really surprised to find out she was Swedish, some people might get plastic surgery but I barely see it here, I can confirm that she is the only Swedish person I’ve seen with so many plastic surgery’s
Edit: 8 months later and I finally remember to say, Idk if I can rlly say that cause I was only born here. I’m not technically swedish but I live here 😭
I‘m european and studied abroads in EU - I thought that cosmetic surgeries are uncommon until my friends told me about nosejobs and boob jobs etc. Turned out many of the norwegian girls had little tweaks done. Also regular tanning studio visits and hair bleaching. So the „scandinavian beauty“ isn‘t as natural as many think 😅
Idk, it's not terribly common in Denmark to have these types of procedures done, and I don't know if it's super common in Sweden or Norway either? Like, I don't think that your average person thinks about having a nose job. Bleaching hair is as fashionable as dying it dark brown. At least in Denmark, the majority of the native population have dark blond hair.
It’s a lot about the circles you’re in I guess
Norwegian here and the tanning and hair bleaching is pretty normal I think, but at least in my circles actual cosmetic surgical procedures are pretty rare
I also thought it was uncommon until a colleague of mine had some lip filler and everyone started talking about botox and sich
“This is how real women look” is so ironic coming from someone who has had more plastic than a Barbie doll.
If she was cremated her ashes would float
She looks unreal tbh
Not in a good way
She sounds like she struggles to speak
This reminds me of an episode of The Twilight Zone called "Eye of the Beholder" where this lady kept trying to get surgeries to look like everyone else to be considered "normal"
It's a fascinating take on how you perceive yourself in a society where everyone looks a certain type of way.
I know EXACTLY which ep ur talking bout
Exactly. I came to the comments to say the same thing.
I’ve seen that episode and was just thinking about it also.
Or Number 12 Looks Just Like You
@@xxromanovaxx6682 That episode inspired a young adult book series called Uglies where everyone gets a surgery to make them "pretty" at age 16 - but the surgery has a hidden and nefarious purpose controlled by the government.
WHAT. AS A SWEDISH PERSON WHO LIVES IN GOTHENBURG THIS IS BAFFLING TO ME. Also I'm so shocked I've never seen her if she lives in Gothenburg? Either way I feel sorry for her. I do wonder how her quality of life is... If she has long terms plans or not.
I think the sketchy guy probably “botched” her face so she looks very different from everyone else and the part where she gets her “perfect face” is her dreaming while in surgery.
Thinking the same thing cause he did explain that when they give "that expression", that they gave her at the end is a reaction to something bad/negative 😕
Gurl can't even close her lips anymore. Hope she stops getting any more additional surgeries. She will be the one paying the price as she gets older.
I see a lot of comments from fellow Europeans saying plastic surgery is less prevalent here, and while this may be true to a certain extent, I think they are overshooting the extent.
If Europeans are said to favour a more natural look, then this will reflect in the plastic surgeons' philosophy, it's a business after all. This will lead them to cater to that preference, and by extension lead to the perception fewer people in Europe get plastic surgery done than what is actually the case. Those people who do undergo plastic surgery in this kind of cultural environment will also be less likely to tell of it to others.
Additionally, most of the examples made in the comments seem to skew towards those kinds of procedures that are easier to notice, such as lip fillers.
The mouth is one of the major elements of the face, second only to the eyes. We are wired to take note of even the most minute size and shape differences and how these compare to the rest of the face.
However there is a wide variety of procedures involving other parts of the face, and many of them are significantly more difficult to notice due to the nature of the operation and the less attention paid to those parts of the face overall.
i live in europe, plastic surgery is seen less disarable here. i know two girls who did their nose, one said it was for health, another one admits it was her own choice and for apparance, but they are done ''naturally''. if you looked at them, you would not notice their noses are fake.
That is so true. Here surgeon say « the best surgery is the one you don’t notice », we’re really focused on small procedures and you won’t say outrageous surgery that often (except maybe on some moms from the 90s that got botched)
I think the biggest reason why obvious/intense plastic surgery and beauty procedures you need to keep topping up (fillers, Botox etc) are not popular in Europe is because most countries have fairly poor populations compared to prices of plastic surgery. I mean fillers will be around 150-200 euros for 1/2 sessions and minimum salary in most countries I’ve lived in is FAR less than a 1000 euros. With the majority of people earning less than a 1000 euros per month I’m not surprised people won’t do it. To top it up I think a lot of countries don’t have specialised plastic surgery clinics (and if they do they’re very expensive) so you go through a hospital but not every hospital offers plastic surgery so it’s difficult to access.
@@usl4689 well it's sad to say you're wrong... Brazil is one of the countries with more plastic surgeries done yearly (I think it's number 3, after USA and South Korea) and the minimum wage here is waaaay less than that kkkrying (also, the majority of population, according to recent studies, have a monthly income of 3 minimum wages or less)
Exactly!
Instead of allowing this woman to get plastic surgery she should have been given mental help. No healthy minded person would do this. These ppl are victims to warped concepts of beauty. It's incredibly sad.
In England, plastic surgery isn't that popular, but it is gaining popularity and some people do get lip injections and botox.. that kind of thing. I'm not sure coz I've never been interested in plastic surgery, but I wouldn't say it's a huge thing here, there are more important things.
Fillers are popular in Essex for sure though... I’d say within Western Europe, the UK tends to have a higher ratio of non intrusive surgery? (Fillers, botox etc...). I’ve seen quite a few beauty places offer fillers around Essex where I live
Yeah could be the fact most people here consider private health care (and you’d need to go private for cosmetic surgery or any medically invasive treatment) for ‘rich” people or super expensive. So the less ‘medical’ or ‘invasive’ procedures like lip injections and filler are considered cheaper and more normal. I’ve definitely seen people with lip fillers that absolutely weren’t done by a professional.
Plastic surgery is HUGE in the UK. It is done in every beauty salon and even dentists can give botox injections. It is probably more your demographic. Definitely popular with Tik Tokers and Instagrammers of very young ages, the gay male community, older females and everyone with a pubic platform . I would say the only people who arent bothered are straight males
I'm so glad that I was raised in a culture that your "unique" features were to be celebrated and not to be chopped off or "enhanced". I understand people's motives. But the surgeries that confuse me are the ones where a person tries to get plastic surgery to look like their favorite celeb even when they don't have enough of the basic foundational features to start with. What's wrong with looking like yourself? I undertand burn victims, trauma victims, and even some regular people to want some changes made. However, I can't understand wanting to look "exactly" like your favorite celebrity. That seems like you're wanting to take over their life or become them instead of dealing with your own life.
I’ve met one or two people that had this weird behavior of obsessing about someone else and trying to copy everything they did. The people copied weren’t celebrities, it could be classmates, regular people in their lives. It seems like a coping mechanism when you have no sense of self
I've seen a TV show where the owner had plastic surgery done on their dog. The owner didn't want the dog to feel like any less of a "man" after it was neutered, so they gave it implants. There was a whole segment on the consultation where they showed the implants and picked the size they wanted for him. It was a while ago, so I don't remember the name, but I think it was part of a British vet show.
daaaamn the projection is strong lmao imagine thinking your dog can feel insecure about it's gender identity
I was fascinated by animals as a kid, and I'd watch every vet show I could. I vividly remember the first time I saw "neuticles" on there. I asked my mom "why are they putting them back in" after the dog was neutered 🤣
LMAO I SAW THAT it was bondi vet, its australian
I remember hearing about neuticals back in the 90s.
Tf poor dog people are crazy..
I am too old for plastic surgery at this juncture of my life. It would be like putting a chandelier in a haunted house. 👵🏻
Same!😂
in italy cosmetic surgery (especially botox) is pretty common amongst tv celebs, however, it's very rare to actually see someone irl with it... as an italian, i've never felt pressured to get any procedure done.
also, many girls go to school with no makeup at all.
Because you all already beautifull💕
@@user-dm3wp5wk3l
True
I believe we shouldn't treat people any different because of their plastic surgery, everyone deserves the same respect regardless of their appearance. But I also definitely believe we should not be encouraging plastic surgery. I've had cosmetic stuff done myself, but I wouldn't tell others they should go do it. I've also wanted certain plastic surgery in the past that I wouldn't want now... Addressing mental health is so important.
No, respect is earned. I don't respect anyone I don't trust with my life.
I'm from Germany and I'd say nearly everyone here doesn't get plastic surgeries, because most of the doctors here won't do that unless it's for health reasons and many people prefer not to stand out here, because they are afraid that they'll get judged and picked at.
Komisch, da wo ich wohne trifft das definitiv nicht zu…
Nicht in Berlin
@@krakenemoji Oh, wo wohnst du denn?
die fliegen dafür alle in die türkei, dubai etc.
@@matilda_stay7053 Düsseldorf.
Im Vergleich zu anderen Länder, wie der USA beispielsweise, würde ich dir aber definitiv zustimmen. Aber auch hier, vor allem unter den jüngeren Generationen, hat sich dieser Trend etabliert.
i like how you usually tie in a movie or other media as a connection to the topic, it adds a lot to the message of the video
11:06 damn she’s only 27! I thought she was middle aged…that’s some bad plastic surgery, she was so pretty before.
I tried a half syringe of lip filler once (smallest amount possible I'm pretty sure), and it tampered with my ability to play the flute. So I never got it again as I didn't want to give that up.
I can't imagine getting filler to the point where you can't speak coherently..and still keep going.
Love yourself for who you are, because beauty standards are temporary and change constantly.
My body doesn't define my identity. And I'm not modifying my body to fit beauty standards.
That date was so difficult to watch and sit through. Cringe is an overwhelming feeling sometimes.
Like painful.
That guy looked so pissed
Natasha: Shows pic to surgeon of what she wants her lips to look like..
Surgeon: Um, Miss...this is a pic of a prolapsed colon.
Natasha: Yes.
Omg lmao 🤣🤣
😂
I will never be as pretty as a pink sock
Omg you killed me hahaha
😂😂😂
Jesus it's like she has trouble talking because of all the surgery. Man she was beautiful before she did all that to herself. If I was on the date and she showed me what she supposed to look like I would have legit shed a tear, because it shocks me how someone could do this to herself and not realize like that qq
She has
I'm French and I can confirm that they're is more self expression trough died hair and piercings (still less then America I think) but plastic surgery is really rare here
@Vicar Amelia If lipfiller is done good,you won't notice, because it looks natural. Thats what a lot of germans do, guess it could be similar in Belgium and France
@@SaheeliRai lip filler is always noticeable unless you get like 0.5 ml in which case it’s a waste of your money.
@@starnighty4996 if you know the before and after, of course it is visible. If you only know the result and not how thin their lips were before, it is not always visible. I know people who get lip filler regularly and still have thinner lips than I have naturally. And they are happy with their natural result so it is not a waste of their money
@Vicar Amelia 😂🤦🏽♀️
The doctors that worked on her need to give her a full refund and have their license revoked, apart from the 1st and possibly the second doctor. They know full well it's not good for and yet they keep taking her money.
They have zero morals
I don't judge *individuals* who get plastic surgery, but I acknowledge the gravity of this social phenomenon.
Somehow most people either bully who get surgery *or* act like *everything* is fine.
Honestly one of the biggest problems I have with plastic surgery is the focus on certain enhancements rather than others. Originally plastic surgery was meant for trauma patients so they could recover and live more normal lives. Also I wish other procedures such as breast reductions and mastectomy were handled with equal care. Doctors often really don't seem to care about these procedures and there hasn’t been enough care put into those procedures.
At this point I'm more worried about her lips giving out and how ruined her skin is with all that botox crap injected, she's only 27 but despite the freezing in place with botox you can see the sag in her face that's what botox will do to your skin. I'm 38 and not one 10th sagged as she is. This is sad.
Omg, I missed the part about her age. That is so sad. She looks like late 40s
It’s not botox only. She’s got about a quart of injectable filler in her face too. It’s puffy, swole and sagging.
Yeah, her age shocked me so much, she looks easily like 50.
Glad I found a video on this. Been something I’ve been thinking about, since plastic surgery became so normalised
I dunno, I can accept I might sound harsh and mean spirited. Open to different perspectives for sure
But, I feel a sense of sadness at how normalised plastic surgery has become. Are peoples sense of self that hollow and meaningless?
Is conformity really that beautiful? Why do you feel better about yourself, now you have the same nose, lips, etc, as everyone else on your social level?
Do these external procedures really add a genuine enhancement of self? You feel more confident and a fuller version of yourself? Or are these benefits something people fool themselves into believing they’ll feel, when it could just be the ego acting on over drive, to reinforce this character ppl love to portray to society?
Saw a tiktok that said exactly what I’ve always said. Rich ppl are now reverting back to being more natural looking. Why? Because all the poor suckers have made it look tacky now. The rich can pay for procedures where they get the artistic finishes to get the best possible surgery’s. This is bespoke stuff. The average joe, is not getting this care when they’re hittin turkey for whatever. You get the by the numbers cosmetics, that everyone else gets.
I just find it a bit sad. Course, in the capitalist pursuit for wealth and security, it’s no surprise that peoples insecurities are being commodified now. How many Amazon’s can their really be? It’s about maximising what exists already. And one way to do that is by praying on insecurities and profiting from them. How many people 5-10yrs ago even cared about their lips? Now everyone is getting this look, that doesn’t even naturally suit how your face is. Not everyone can have thick lips. it just looks alien and looks obvious that this is not your natural beauty
It’s a shame. Beauty to me, comes from your character and your facial quirks. Lots of history has passed down to produce the face you have. It’s like your unique identifier. To have that stripped away is a bit sad. It gets me thinking, if i ever had a daughter one day, I hope I’d be able to raise her with true empowerment and self confidence. Looks are not anything at all, who you are deep down is where your true beauty lies.
I think people forget that it's impossible to know how many people get plastic surgery (just by looking). Because if they had a good surgeon, you won't be able to tell.
Well maybe in first world countries but for most people plastic surgery is still a luxury
@@edwardhisse2687 even in first world country its luxury
1:45 as a *coraline* enthuasiast, this is so ironic as coraline hates being called caroline
A lot of people where I live get Botox & fillers around the chin and jawline and a nose job so they all look the same, I’m starting to get concerned tbh the Korean movie is accurate especially in this society “social media paste society “ it’s so normal right now it become part of this generation. ( I’m not against plastic surgery I just feel like the amount of the same procedures done is ridiculous they literally all going to look the same with plump lips and pointy chin and plus not everyone is going to look good with same procedures done)
Yes everyone wants the exact same nose and they all go to Turkey to get it, lots end up with a nose that’s either botched or doesn’t suit their face. I used to want a little ski sloped nose but not anymore because everyone has it and it may not suit me.
yeah all the peeps in that korean film looked like the other mother...
Learning to love ourself is probably the hardest things for many humans. I hope people who are "addicted" to cosmetic surgery seek help and find peace before they have regrets. Oh btw, I'm from Africa (South) to be exact where plastic surgery is done but not as commonly as in the rest of the world. Feeding ones family and educating our kids are definitely more of a priority.
unfortunately loving oneself is hard when the media bombard us with perfect images of women's facial and body ideals. What's worse is that social media, porn, magazines warp the opposite sex's perception of what the normal body looks like as well. So everyone's expectations are fucked up.
Finnish person here. Our beauty standard appreciates naturality, yet there are some people very infatuated with glamour too. The general beauty standard is a very natural looking woman who has the "no makeup-makeup"-look, so you have to look perfect but without actual makeup. Effortless, and looking like you just woke up looking like that. Same with body types. Certain european nationalities get more plastic surgery, for example from eastern europe.
I'm from Eastern Europe and people who actually live here almost never have plastic surgery, so idk where you got that idea from, TV shows I guess? Most girls here wear makeup that's not quite natural but not heavy either.
Eastern European there. Not to quote vine, but that is not correct, because according to the encyclopaedia of asdfghjkl.
I think your mixing up Eastern Europe with someone else, sis (with peace and love)
@@SurfingBirdish Nah. Russians, Estonians, Latvians etc. do way more cosmetic procedures, and even in here most of the beauty studios are owned by them. There is even a procedure called "the russian lip fill". So your encyclopedia of asdfg is wrong.
@@verak8936 seems like you dont even know which countries are eastern european so please dont try to speak on our behalf.
@@Anzai66 I'm sorry if you are offended, but those most definitely are eastern europe. Finns even go to Estonia for plastic surgery usually. I also didn't say all people from eastern european countries. Didn't call out Serbia, Croatia, Bulgaria, Moldova etc.
6:59 my interpretation is that they botched the surgery, she's like blind now or something (hence why the doctor asks for her to open her eyes, and why she says shell be in trouble)? and her face there is her imagination. her family looks at her weird because her face is botched, but dont say anything bc she doesn't know it.
technically i got my first plastic surgery recently (top surgery, woohoo!) and i really cant understand how one could be addicted to surgeries, recovery is exhausting, you have to get stitches removed, infection risk, pain. the fewer surgeries i can get away with the better.
super late reply but congratulations!! i hope recovery has been going as well as it could possibly go!! 🥰🥰
@@mariananarciso7445 insanely ironic to be congratulating someone for plastic surgery on a video criticising plastic surgery positivity
@@hl8138 insanely uninformed to not realize that there are health reasons for certain plastic surgeries
@@hl8138 insanely uninformed to not realize that there are health reasons for certain plastic surgeries
@hl8138 it's a type of gender reassignment surgery. Gender Dysphoria is a diagnosable condition, and plastic surgery is a potential treatment.
Now when I talk about being natural and why I won’t get plastic surgery or cosmetic enhancements I GET HATED ON. People HATE when you advocate for natural beauty because they are ashamed they can’t say that anymore about themselves.
I think I just feel like as long as we expect people to be beautiful in order to be treated kindly, but then punish people for getting surgeries to meet the beauty standards, we're not addressing the base problem. I don't want to advocate for natural beauty because I don't want our culture to focus so so much of just what women look like. I think the cure to a culture where plastic surgery is seen as necessary for so many people is just to accept people as they are.
Agree. There is a viral female TH-camrs who criticizes celebrities' cosmetic procedures and surgery but she looks like an Instagram model (maybe this is a stretch, but she IS conventionally attractive and she's clearly following beauty standards) ... Like of course you're going to be against it!
@@annac6457 lorri hill? shes upfront about the stuff shes had done
I live in Sweden and tbh I have never heard of that woman. I don’t think that plastic surgery is very common here.
Same, I've never heard of her and was shook af when "sweden" popped up on the screen LMAO. Then again- I think fillers and more "casual" things are growing in popularity here.
@@Jenpaii_ Yes, I agree. I don’t think that there’s a lot of people that do extreme surgeries here in Sweden because it’s not as accepted here. But smaller things are getting more common.
lip fillers är ganska vanligt där jag bor, men har bara sett någon med extrema surgeries EN gång
She is Serbian raised in sweden so I guess that’s why you’ve never heard of
She’s insane .
I'm from Austria (Europe) and some people get surgery but only slight changes (more natural look). But i'm afraid that the us trend to get more and more done will become stronger in eu.. Plastic surgery is on the rise and i hate it
also from Austria and I've seen a lot of women recently that had a lot of (at least lips) work done. Also heard of young women from my city (19-21) getting boob jobs and their lips done. It's getting more common, though seemingly only among the girls with well-situated parents (naturally). Also hating this trend
I don’t think that man is ever going on a blind date again 😭😭😭
I am from switzerland and i've lately noticed that tons of young woman (age 18-25) get lip injections or nose jobs. Especially lip injections became pretty standart to create these "duck lips".
This has been going on the U.S. for some time- it's supposed to resemble a kissy face? as with pictures-
At least hylauronic acid is a compound naturally produced by the body, is metabolized in months and can even be removed sooner using dissolving injections if the client really hates the results that much. Old people bang on about young people and their lip fillers all the time, but at least the results aren't permanent and safe in 99% of cases.
My nan's generation plucked their eyebrows out of existence back when she was my age. That trend was permanent. She had to draw eyebrows on every day for the rest of her life. Young people in all generations jump to try new beauty trends to fit in with their peers while their prefrontal cortex finishes developing.
Hell, I read they used to advertise cigarettes as a "weight loss product" to young women. I'm legitimately waiting with morbid curiosity to see what people 20 years from now will try strive to look like :D
Plastic surgery is very popular indeed.. I think it's cool when you have enough money to fix some "Imperfections" and boost your self-confidence BUT in most cases it's like a "never-ending cycle", basically you just never fully satisfied with your own looks and at the end you have so many surgeries that already ruined all the natural beauty. Yes, many of them start to look the same.
The movie 7:17 I think is from the girls perspective where she sees this faces that she draws and thinks everyone looks like that when in reality no one does and that's why everyone says no and that also explains the faces they give her faces of concern And in the end girl got the surgery but damaged her face which happens almost every time when getting a plastic surgery. And I also think this movie is about girls and there insecurities which is very accurate.
I’m in my 30s and have had cosmetic surgery once. It was to even my eyelids since one has been deformed since childhood because of a horrible eye infection. It genuinely has made me happier about myself but it’s still sad to me that I needed to alter my face in order to like it. I don’t want anything else done as I am genuinely content with myself.
These ppl with faces like dolls and Natasha almost scared me as much as Oli London in the Christmas in Korea mv🌚