Reacting to The 2023 ZX-4RR!!!

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  • @popdatclutch3010
    @popdatclutch3010 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thing is, by the time people can afford to get a bike, most of the time they dont wana go dumb ass fast, or they know that its hard to ACTUALLY learn to ride correctly on a big bike. It does actually make sense. Especially since most new 636 go for 12-13k from a dealer

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a good point actually. I don’t mind going fast every once in a while. I actually don’t mind going dumb ass fast here and there (usually with friends or I have to play catch up with people I’m riding with for the first time). I learned fast but smartly on my Ninja 400. When I got my CBR600 I did a few tweaks to my learning on a bigger bike. My buddy let me ride his 21 636 and he was impressed. Most people I know who started on a 600 supersport never really practiced being a good rider unlike some of the people who I met that learned on a R3 or N400 for 6+ months.
      I now see that the new ZX4 will fill in the gap between the p-twin and the 4 cylinder supersport in terms of learning. A 400cc 4 banger you would have to rev it out like a 600 to get access to the full power without the immediate jump of the power band of the 600. The problem I’m seeing tho is the MSRP for the US market. I noticed a lot of people are not liking the MSRP of the ZX4RR. Since its so close to a ZX6R. But maybe this bike will help people learn CORRECTLY on how to ride a bigger bike. Since there is a drastic difference of powerbands between a p-twin and an inline-4

    • @popdatclutch3010
      @popdatclutch3010 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xTHEYCALLMExGx its priced close enough to the r7 with way more tech. I think it will sell for its price after it doesn’t sell for a few months, and it will be kinda hard to find. Importing these bikes have become expensive which is why America didnt get the 22cbr600rr. Would cost about 15k

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tbh I totally forgot about the R7 😅. I remembered riding it and wasn’t too impressed by it. But the ZX4 has gained more positive hype than the new R7 when it was revealed. Which is a very good thing. Because Kawi delivered on bring this and done right to hype it up. I can’t wait to see them reveal the new ZX7R too. Oh man I wished I can get my hands on a 22 CBR600. That is the upgrade the CBR needed. Just too bad its only for Japan 😞

  • @SunnyReivas
    @SunnyReivas ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I have been closely following the ZX4R news and was strongly considering trading up... But with that price, imma hafta do a little more research (or wait for the ZX4R stats to drop considering this is the ZX4RR KRT). I purposely went with the 400 for something that fit me better, a little funner for me to toss in the corners vs my old 600. Love the agility of the 400, but damn do I miss the power of my 600

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is why I got two bikes 😂. But yeah that price point for the RR version is a bit much. There is a cheaper single R version (confirmed on Kawasaki Canada). Just haven’t been announced for the US…yet. The ZX4R will make approximately 70hp (80 with the ram air being taken in account). But its still pricey for us in the US.

  • @kwicksandz
    @kwicksandz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i kinda wanna support this bike just to show manfuacturers that inline 4 is not a dead engine given the parallel twin trend across the industry in "sporty" bikes. this seems like a perfect candidate with usable street power and the 4 cyclinder engine sound without the over commited ergos of the zx6. price is a little higher than i hoped but ill take what i can get. I bet insurance for this baby will be more reasonable than zx6 as well

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm really interested to see how it performs on the streets. It's definitely not 100% race committed ergos like the ZX6R (it seems more fitted like the CBR600RR). I think that's the only reason I actually would want to get this bike now that I had more time to think about it is the 4 cylinder sound. Because nothing is sexier than a 4 banger screaming all the way to the top. There is going to be a more affordable "single R" version according to publications so that might be more appealing to you. As the "RR" typically stands for "Race Ready" or "Race Replica". Publications also states the hp rating is guess to be around 40-50hp (I predict 65-ish) so if that's true then the insurance should be considerably lower than the 636.

  • @Kingnabor
    @Kingnabor ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s cute a 400 with inline 4 that cost basically as much as a used ZX6R. Don’t get me wrong I’m sure it will be a nice bike but i rather upgrade to a ZX6R if I’m going to drop that type of money. also the fact my current 400 is basically tuned the fuck up an I’ve done so much work on it, would be a waste of time to let it go.

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I'm saying! I can't justify the price of a mini-superbike if it's not too far off from the ZX6R's base price...NEW. That's where I'm at too. I'm putting all the parts I've been eye-ballin' for my N400 that all the time, work, and emotional attachment would go to waste if I were to trade it in for the ZX4RR. I'll probably get it just to have in my fleet. But I would have to wait until someone here in Washington state gets it and lets me review it so I can form a proper opinion. But I'm definitely not gonna buy it when my N400 is doing just fine for daily use and track duty.

    • @Kingnabor
      @Kingnabor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xTHEYCALLMExGx yeah I would hate to see all the work I’ve done to my 400 gone if i ever decide to trade it in for the ZX4RR. an the only reason I haven’t upgraded to the ZX6R is because of the lack of ABS chip down here in cali. Every zx6r the dealers have here are non ABS which was a bummer because I see the color I wanted. hopefully they make a price adjustment or make zx6r cheaper 😂

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว

      I would have to take a road trip on the bikes to visit you in Cali 😛. One of my roadtrip goals is to visit San Fran to Fisherman’s Wharf, Golden Gate Bridge, and see Alcatrez. Then you gotta show me the dealerships and how to ride in Cali 🤣

    • @Kingnabor
      @Kingnabor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xTHEYCALLMExGx man, I was so close on picking up that ZX6R. I just like having ABS on my bike unless it’s a track build. but yeah whenever ur down in cali hit me up I live close by Malibu an PCH plenty of twisty out here.

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t mind ABS but prefer not having it due…to not liking the feel of it to be honest lol. It has saved me a couple times. I’ll give it that. Oh man that’s a trek. Bet. I’ll take the 400 there for the 20hrs and 46mins google says it’ll take 🤣

  • @Khmersupra
    @Khmersupra ปีที่แล้ว

    i believe horsepower is 77 but 80 when air is pressurize in the ram system

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds about right from what I’m seeing everywhere else. Because the ZX-25R made 50hp. I would expect 65 to even 80 on the max.

  • @adarshprakash9360
    @adarshprakash9360 ปีที่แล้ว

    💚

  • @DB-ik7mq
    @DB-ik7mq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Better off getting a zx6, this price is very high for a bike that won't go 130mph, a ninja 400 twin will give this a run for its money, on road and track but obviously this is not a beginner bike like the 400 twin, she's a niche bike, sound enthusiasts and track riders will love it, but damn the weight and price mean I can tune and upgrade my 400 twin and have change left over.

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your insight on this! I was thinking the same thing. It's a niche market for a low-displacement superbike. There is a reason why the ZX-25RR and the CBR250RR are only in Asia (possibly europe?). I would love to race against one on the track for sure. Or to make it more fair a time attack against myself on each bike. As much as I want to get it (probably will in time for a build series), my N400 does me just fine in all honesty.

    • @DB-ik7mq
      @DB-ik7mq ปีที่แล้ว

      @xTHEYCALLMExGx yeah I honestly don't see this outselling the 400 twin, if i get an inline 4 it'll be the 6r, cause the price is about the same but you get more speed, and in my opinion good weight for the size, this zx4r is heavy for what it is and too pricey, a inline twin 6 will still walk this bike, because it's still a 400, at a 600 price, looks to me like my twin 400 will stay with me cause so far it does what I need honestly. BTW awesome video.

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My N400 is definitely going to be staying with me for a very long time. Being my first bike that I bought brand new in 2021. At 18k miles...she and I gone through a lot. My CBR600 F4i will definitely pick up itch when I need a 600 4 banger. The more I keep thinking about this the more I think the ZX4RR is not gonna outsell the N400 like you said. It's just too much for MSRP but we'll have to wait and see what happens when they release the "single R" version and how much of a price difference it'll be between the R and RR. and thanks! :)

    • @Khmersupra
      @Khmersupra ปีที่แล้ว

      i believe we see things first as comparing weight specs and horsepower bang for buck but depends when this bike comes out and what the racing community will do with it , for instance it could very well out track the zx6r but not on the street on freeways

  • @m_waz7945
    @m_waz7945 ปีที่แล้ว

    After the last couple years taking a detour in dual sport land and looking to get back into sportbikes, I was waiting for the ZX-4R to be officially announced before making a decision since the VIN registries got published. My only "big" sportbike experience after learning on a Ninja 250 was a modded SV650S. From that, I think an I4 600 would be a bit much for the riding I do (tight mountain twisties and almost no highway), but also not exactly a lot of opportunities to try a used I4 400 to see if I can live with the lack of torque, especially when the two bikes are so close in price.
    I remember the before times when a acceptably-sketchy used 600 was $3k, that would have been a no-brainer, but unfortunately seems like currently the best deals on bikes near me are new ones. Here's hoping the non-RR models come in closer to $8k or the reviews for the RR come back glowing

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve have taken a CBR600RR on the tight twisties and found it manageable. But the CBR600RR has such a very easy linear powerband to control. Something like the ZX6R would probably be too much for the tight backroads (not sure, I would not dare with my friend’s ZX6R). With the tight mountain passes on my N400 its definitely fun due to the lack of torque. Controllable and easy to ride through. However, I do want to give an I4 400 a try in the twisties for comparison and see if it really is worth it.
      I bought my CBR600 F4i for $1k. In really sketchy condition…now being rebuilt after riding it a few times. Which is unfortunately the best deal I can find for a used 600. With the used market still up there…buying a brand new one makes more sense. Kawasaki Canada actually list the R and RR models much cheaper than the US’s RR price. Which…really confuses me. I am really curious if the US is gonna get a R model or they’re gonna fix the price of the whole ZX4 line too. The price just doesn’t make sense.

    • @m_waz7945
      @m_waz7945 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xTHEYCALLMExGx
      Pricing is actually what I do by trade and after looking at it all for a bit, I think I can understand where they came up with it (even if I don't like it). The elephant in the room is availability of new vehicles generally. The T7 "launch" was a good example of this in bikes but it's happening for enthusiast cars even worse, hard to find, lots of dealer mark up, people still buying them. If Kawi knows they can't meet all of the US demand in the first year(s), it makes sense to launch just the "premium" trim at a premium price to sell all the bikes they can make to their highest demand customers, and only then later introduce the lower tiers for the people like me who are on the fence and cross-shopping other brands (seems like we are eventually getting the lower specs down here, but with the announcement so fresh, lot of room for journalist error). Can only guess at the cause for the differences between how they are handling the US vs Canada markets in the short-term, but would think it would be reasonable that Canada overall is just a smaller market, both due to population and weather, and that such price discrimination isn't worth the effort/forgoing immediate sales of the lower specs.
      Secondly, their existing lineup kinda fenced the price of the 4R. With the N650 being $8k and the base ZX-6R being a bit over $10k, that pretty much determines where the 4R has to slot in at the moment. Personally I think the N650 is overpriced and the ZX-6R is underpriced, but we'll see if they make any adjustments to those bikes msrp as 4R's start hitting the showrooms. (haven't been shopping in-person yet to see what's actually happening on the ground)
      4R aside, what grinds my gears is the Japanese manufacturers all seemingly implementing a fairing tax and then complaining that sportbikes don't sell and consumers only want nakeds (and then in the worst cases axing their sportbikes). Right now a GSXR-750 is listed at $13k, meanwhile the naked GSX-S750 is at $8.5k. Maybe the components really are just that lower-spec and fairings are actually $2k to manufacture and paint, but I'm just not seeing it. If I could live with having to look at that monstrosity in my garage, I'd probably have bought one already for the 750 lulz
      Wish I could get excited at one of the other middleweight parallel twins that are so popular now, but feel like I already experienced that with the SV650S (it was a blast though:)

  • @SquidgrowJoe
    @SquidgrowJoe ปีที่แล้ว

    If we can replace the front end of that bike with our current Ninja 400, they there is no reason for an upgrade from the ninja 400 to it. I like the Ram air and OLED screen, if there is a way to get that on our ninja 400 then I am gtg.

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you don’t have the ABS model. TST industries actually has a ram air part for non-ABS N400 models! I’ll be deleting my ABS module for my bike as it will be a dedicated track bike. But yeah that front end…I would love to have for the N400.

    • @brandontanner3008
      @brandontanner3008 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you say so? You don’t want the pure power of the inline 4? The twin doesn’t make any power… that’s the reason why Kawasaki came out with this model. 70 horsepower on a ninja 400 platform will be sweet!

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think its the justification of the price that’s making most people iffy on purchasing a ZX4. Its $1k-$2k off from a ZX6R. While the Canadian markets got the ZX4R and ZX4RR under the $9,699 MSRP when converted to USD. Power is subjective to each rider. I personally find the 400 adequate for daily use and backroad fun. I have a 600 if I want to go have the pure power of an inline 4. HP figures are still iffy. But as I stated in the video it’ll probably be around 70hp. As the ZX-25R made approximation 50hp. I do, however, agree with you….I want to ride a Ninja 400 platform with 70hp from the factory 😛
      I believe the real reason Kawasaki released this model is because of tight emissions standards on supersports. The ZX6R and the Honda CBR600RR is the last of the true 600 supersports. Suzuki just killed off their GSXR1000 and yamaha with their R6. Also a reason why Aprilia and Ducati released their RS660 and the Panigale V2. Trying to appeal to a market while keeping in within emissions.

  • @LoscoeLad
    @LoscoeLad ปีที่แล้ว

    miniature 636. angry. repeat 40 times

  • @quanwick4516
    @quanwick4516 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wait for the cheaper base and SE models. I don't think the KRT is worth the $10k

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its what I’m waiting for is seeing how much the price difference will be between the 400 and the base ZX4. The ZX4RR is definitely the top tier of the ZX4s.

    • @quanwick4516
      @quanwick4516 ปีที่แล้ว

      @xTHEYCALLMExGx If you check out Kawasaki Canada they offer two models ZX4R and ZX4RR. $8300 for the ZX4RR and $7500 for the ZX4R after converting CAD to USD. I think Kawasaki USA jacked up the price to sucker people into financing. I believe this is a massive fail since the 600s are a dying breed because of high prices in the first place. They need to offer the base and SE models for at least $2.5k less

    • @xTHEYCALLMExGx
      @xTHEYCALLMExGx  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow! Thanks for that. That’s handy. And wth. Why do I live here 😂