Honda Engineer Here. No I wouldn't. Hiring non high school educated people and paying them 95,000$ a year to put a "No Go" gauge sideways a few times an hour is a good indicator that their products are shit
It used to be that turbos were only on performance models, driven by enthusiasts who cared to make sure their vehicle ran well. Now they're in regular cars where people don't care about the upkeep.
It’s all because of the government and EnviroTards who have made our lives hell. All the unrealistic fuel economy regulations being pushed on manufacturers is causing them to do whatever it takes to make fuel efficient engines at the cost of reliability.
I bought a new Integra and Manual Accord back in the day. I though Honda might slap a turbo on a car with its regular engine to make a cool performance version. I never thought they would replace the "big" 4 cyl they have been updating for 30 years with a little turbo motor.
@@mitchhedberg4415 true I owned a 2010 Accord EX with the K24 and 5 speed and my wife owned a 98 CL with the 2.3 F series engine and also a 5 speed manual. Those cars were pretty solid at 150K with just regular maintenance. Can't say the same about the tiny 1.5 Turbo vehicles they're selling today....
If you want to drive a Diesel and many of us Europeans (That is European, not necessarily EU) do. You need a turbo to have any real horsepower for a car sized engine. Hell, even all modern trucks use turbos on their engines. Sorry, if you are getting gas (petrol) blow by on pistons, the turbo isn't the problem. The pressure comes from combustion, not a few pounds of boost. *"Honda has a reputation for reliability"* It has made a goodly amount of clunkers too. Honda originally was a motorcycle company. Look up the 125S engine and the problems with the camshaft housing and oil feed. The camshaft problems were revisited in a completely different manner with the VF V4 engines. Very possibly line boring in this case for those who are interested. The VF engine camshafts were a complete and utter dog. The sort of dog that destroys a company's reputation, if not quite destroying the company. Honda's response was the truly brilliant gear driven cam engine of the VFR. Generally the VFR750. Honda didn't spare the pennies on the new frame, both in design and engineering. The fact is, everything on that bike was as good as it could be. Very possibly losses were made to regain reputation. A Japanese grey import RVF400 (All Japanese home market bikes are a quality level [or 2] higher) is about as close to perfection as you can get. Well, allowing for the fact that it isn't a 2-stroke, and 2-stroke bikes are always better!
i hate how manufacturers decided to put turbo in almost every vehicle now let’s be real, why does a jeep wrangler need a turbo why does a suv need a turbo? Why are average joes giving access to 300hp when they haven’t even pushed 200hp causing a huge increase of danger on the road
For me Mazda is of the most reliable brand right now, that’s until they messed up with the new CX90 with no torque converter … however, Mazda 3, CX30, Mazda 5, etc are all very reliable
I haven't heard of many Subarus that have issues with the CVTs. Nissans on the other hand are noutorus for their CVT failures. Like every vehicle there are some that are lemons, but I haven't heard many complaints about the CVTs Subaru uses.
@@FirstLast-kb7knthe problem with Subaru are the engines. Their CVT’s are pretty reliable. Other long term issues with Subarus are corrosion. This has the unfortunate effect of expensive repairs, especially related to brakes and wheel bearings. Meanwhile Mazda skyactiv engine and transmission family is mostly unchanged since 2012, other than late versions receiving a turbo and the newly introduced I6. Vehicles with these drivetrains are considered among the most reliable on the road. Just change oil and keep going.
Na, My 2010 Insight had 324 on it when i hit a deer. My current 2010 Prius has 290K. I owned many of those old civic from the late 80s and 90s. They were good, but 200K was alot of miles back them. Its nothing now.
Ah yes the gentlemen agreement era. (the era were all JDM purposely over built engines to be tuned by the aftermarket to get the Japanese government off their back over street racing factory built cars while keeping their fans happy) That era is long gone now.
I work at a honda dealership. We get recalls on fuel pump, seatbelt, steering rack, rear camera, touchscreen radio, and some emissions recall to this day. We get tens of customers with recalls.
I work in rental cars it is everyone for everything just when they finish a campaign they announce another one sometimes for the same thing on the same car as the fix didn't fix anything.
That's actually not a lot especially considering some of that stuff isn't actually made by Honda it's mad why another company and some of these recalls don't even affect all cars listed. Like mine has the seatbelt recall but mine was one of what seems like the majority where is was installed correctly. Only a portion of the cars listed actually need the fix they just don't know which exactly.
Toyota and Honda sold out. Look what Toyota did with the supra. Outsourced it to bmw and trying to fool people and put a Toyota badge on it. If I wanted a bmw z I would of bought one. Pathetic.
@@KrishnaSingh-ow1ienobody getting fool you fool. all new supra owner know their engine from bmw. to ensure engine reliability that bmw engine need to follow some specification from toyota.
I BELIEVE Toyota is very similar. I think the 86 is still Japanese at least. I 100% stand by my all Japanese 88' Supra, 01' Celica, and 94' Camry. Just knowing that the car itself and pretty much everything in it is 100% Japanese and over engineered to hell is exactly what I want. Their newer cars don't feel remotely the same level of quality. I actually drove my Supra to a local Toyota dealer to look at their stock and chatted it up with two guys working there and they straight up said they do not have ANYTHING as nice as my old Supra on the lot and to just keep it. That says a lot.
I'm convinced that manufacturers have been trying to recoup losses during covid and have been cutting corners and jacking up prices to accomplish that ever since. Lotsa turbos, CVTs, infotainment screens and other bad ideas have also contributed. And its not only Honda; Toyota, Ford, ALL of Stellantis, Mercedes and others have all suffered QC issues lately. All I know is my 2000 Lexus GS400 with 210K, runs like new, and is built like a bank vault...will run forever. From a time when you got extra engineering when you paid extra $$.
Agreed. Don't forget about the chip shortage that caused so much chaos. Auto companies are not the only ones, everybody is doing it, that's why people are feeling like nothing is affordable anymore.
You realize all the things you listed cost extra to build, source, engineer, and manufacture. A turbo engineer requires more engineering. If they wanted more profits they would sell the simpler cars like your Lexus and sell them at current prices. It's literally the government causing all this and the consumer.
Hell the lubrication is way more advanced (thanks to additional engineering and costs) to handle these extreme engines and conditions. All adding to costs.
Spend what ever you can to keep that car on the road, it will definitely last you a life time! You might have to rebuild the engine, but not for another million miles.
Nissan is alright as long as you don’t get a cvt, Mazda and Ford is decent too. Chevy has some issues but cheap to fix but Hyundai, Kia dodge and Chrysler are dirt.
@@256jayy3 Hyundai and Kia are great. Unless they are built in the US. You will get an incredibly reliable car if you find a Hyundai or Kia that is not built in the USA but built in Korea
I don't know everybody hates on nissan... Granted their c v t's are pretty lame. they were also the first car company pushing them ..And I see everyone else's followed suit. I've had a bunch of nissan over the years and I would put them up against honda or toyota anyday... granted they were all manuals
I disagree with some things and agree with others. Consumer reports ratings have already been improving if you looked at recent years. 2021: 5th place. 2022: 5th place. 2023: 4th place. Also, Honda hasn’t had issues with their CVTs, they’ve been using them since early 2010s. People just like to lump all traditional CVTs as unreliable because of Nissan. The 1.5 Turbo is terrible and probably Honda’s worst engine. Looks like they’re phasing it out for the hybrid system. You can’t get the 1.5 Turbo in the 2025 Civic anymore. New Civic is only 2.0 NA hybrid and 2.0 NA. They’ll most likely make the CR-V hybrid only in the mid cycle refresh. Their new battery plant is going online next year and you’ll see them offer/produce more hybrids. A hybrid HR-V is coming in too. Their paint quality is terrible though.
Nissan, Subaru and Toyota all have had major problems with their CVTs. I think it's okay to group *MOST* CVTs together when saying they're unreliable. Additionally Honda's CVTs have absolutely had issues, just not at the rates their competitors have had and no recalls issued about them. Doesn't mean it's not happening. Honda's paint quality is absolutely dogshit though. Never understood how that wasn't a lawsuit/recall.
@@Caffeinated-DaVinci Can you provide some sources on how Toyota and Honda traditional CVTs had major issues/higher than average failure rates? I’m interested in reading about it.
@Caffeinated-DaVinci the majority of the issues with Honda CVTs are experienced under 3 circumstances. Neglected maintenance, modded/abused cars, and 1st generation HR-Vs. They're actually decent otherwise
How horrible? Not from a mod POV because some people forget it's ultimately an econ engine and not a race engine and blow it up then cry how it sucks. Some don't let it warm up in cold climates, and then they get more dilution problems. It's a very tricky engine for some to understand but to call them terrible may be a stretch.
This is not the only problem in auto industry. The problem is causing from the world leaders, the global emissions, the political, the climate change, the EPA, the local government, the education and the EV development costs . All of these causes all of the cut costs, cut development, cut quality, cut value , cut reliability, cut customer support and cut labor. Finally, we got a dream of problems EV!
Climate change is a real problem and if manufacturers can't make efficient and reliable vehicles without polluting like mad then they suck at manufacturing.
To be fair, Honda CVTs are more reliable than most other CVTs. In Honda’s bigger vehicles, their 10ATs are reliable unlike the older 9ATs and 6ATs. As for engines, the L15 turbo is a bad apple in Honda’s engines, whereas Honda’s other new engines like 2.0s, 3.5s, and hybrids are reliable by design. The 3.5 recalls were caused by manufacturing, not design. The fuel pump recall involves DENSO fuel pumps, which DENSO was actually owned by Toyota.
@@engineer_alv VCM was an issue on older engines, but the newer engines have addressed that issue, so they do not have VCM issues like the older engines. The manufacturing flaw I was referring to was the rod bearing issue.
@@engineer_alv you will not find the L15 on the 2025 Civic unless you get the Si because it has been replaced by a hybrid powertrain, which is much more reliable and better meets the CAFE standards.
They are going trough the same problem bmw faced late 2000s. Switching from n/a to forced induction is pretty hard when you’ve mastered the n/a engines for so long
Could be an issue given that they're 1.5T engine can have some issues but their k20c is very reliable which is weird. Guess it doesn't matter anymore since they're switching to their 2.0 n/a hybrid setup
I agree with this 100%. The same thing is happening with Toyota and their new tundras. It’s trying to find a reliable workaround for a turbo charged vehicle which is insanely hard because of how much heat a turbo puts back into the engine.
@@BIGMIKE54ify last time I checked bmw is top 5 in reliability lmao. There is a reason why bmw had the #1 sales figures last year for luxury cars in USA. Don’t compare Mazda to bmw. They are in a different league
@Habibi_exe according to consumer reports bmw is 9th not top 5 porsche is 8th so they aren't even the to luxury car o wait lexas is ahead of both of them and bmw is 1 spot in front of kia but kia is complete trash after 100k
Saab proved a long time ago that 4 cylinder turbo engines can run forever, even at relatively high compression. I just passed 200K on my 2002 Saab 9-3 Viggen which runs great and doesn't burn oil at all. There are thousands of Saabs still running with that 2.3 L engine which makes up to 230 hp.
@@heilaw7002with my 17 si I had the transmission and ac replaced under extended warranty. 45k miles for a failed bearing in the manual transmission. Ac had contamination in there around 85k miles. Right now I have a check engine light for rich fuel. Most likely the o2 sensor. Just need to deal with that with the dealer. I most likely got a lemon si. I’m always anal about maintenance. Other than that, no random issues like with American brands other the radio that crashes frequently because I jailbroke it.
As much as I hate Nissan. I have actually made their CVT easily last beyond 200k. The secret is to change the CVT Fluid, transmission filter, etc. every 25k miles.
I own an '04 Mazda 6 with almost 200k miles on it. I bought it used 5 years ago with 160k miles on it. First thing I did was change all the fluids (including transmission). I changed the transmission fluid again 5k miles later (my thinking was I didn't know how well it was maintained before, so changing it again would get rid of all the loose stuff stuck in there from the last one now that the fluid has been churned up a bit) and now the car runs like silk. Changing your transmission fluid at regular intervals does wonders for the operation of your vehicle, and it's a shame other people don't even think about it. I still change my oil every 3k miles on the dot, even though people say you can wait until 5k. I love my car too much to treat it like shit.
Nissan is one of the most reliable brands I've ever owned when it came to engines. They've been 50/50 on their transmissions, but I've gotten multiple motors well past 200K with fairly minimal maintenance.
Worked for a delivery company that had the brilliant idea to use CPOd Honda Pilots for the bulk of their fleet. Every single transmission failed within 2 years.
So I assume with your viewpoint every driver should (only) drive on highways for a long distance, that's nonsense. Look maintenance is the key to a vehicle and driving your car like a race car when it's not does (alot) damage........
I have a 23 Civic Sport, 14k miles. It hasn’t started 6 times throughout my ownership and now has a slipping CVT transmission. Honda can’t find any issues with it and claim it’s perfectly normal. That about sums up my Honda experience and many others’ experience recently
my buddy's 2.0 civic sport from 2022 has 31k miles and never had one single issue yet, he does have the manual like mine. I can't say much since I've only owned my 24 sport 6mt for about 3 weeks. But he has had no bad experiences thus far
I also have a 2.0 6mt and have had a leaky hatch, sound cutting off on bumps, and if it gets really cold the sound won’t come on at all. Also had a leak from a plastic valve cover.
I drive a 2013 Corolla S. 4 speed trans. No CVT. No touchscreen. No GDI fuel system. No turbo(s). Great auto and no drain on my wallet. And as a bonus, minimal depreciation. I'm loving it!
I own a 2018 Honda CRV-AWD LE 2.4 L 4 banger with a CVT tranny. I put 136K miles on it because I had a long commute to work (63 miles). Knock on wood but I have had zero issues with it, I mean zero, nothing, nada. I have changed all the powertrain fluids on a regular basis. The front end is still tight, the brakes are less than half worn, the engine runs silky smooth and it literally burns no oil between 7500 mi oil changes. It has been the best car I ever bought. I just had the shop adjust the valves for the first time. The intakes were in within spec but the exhausts needed to be tighten down 0.002-0.003". I had them also clean out the carbon buildup (GDi engine) with the BG treatment. I also had them change out the brake fluid (2% moisture). I was looking to trade it in for a bigger vehicle but after researching I realized the newer stuff is indeed cheaper and lower quality so I decided to keep it after all. Yes, when the tranny blows I will have them put in a new one as this seems a better option nowadays. That is a sad thing to say.
Not just Honda, those new Tundra motors are blowing up left and right. Your best bet is to purchase an older Honda or Toyota. They built cars back when reliable was the most important factor of building cars. Now it’s about money, dam the reliability.
tundras aren't really toyotas that's the problem they aren't made by real toyota in japan but by a "franchise" in america, I know from many things for example sports tires that made in factory X does not mean it'll be the same quality than in factory Y especially not if Y is on the other side of the planet
I have a 2018 1.5T 6sp. manual and I beat the oil dilution issue. My oil samples submitted for analysis have come back as actually below average for gasoline in the oil! You just have to have brains to figure out how to beat this. I'm very knowledgeable in the area of engine mechanics. You sold a good car. My 1.5T is great, I love it.
@@markr.1984 As an owner of a 2024 Integra Aspec, I'm curious about what you'vd done to beat the oil dilution issue. Frequent oil changes? I'm seeing recommendations of 5,000 mile intervals. Taking mine in for its first next week at around 1,500.
The worst car I’ve ever owned was a 2009 Honda Accord with a V6 engine. At 70,000 I noticed engine oil level was always low and between oil changes I used 3+ quarts of oil to keep it in normal range. Constant cylinder misfires due to oil flooding spark plugs. Dealership quoted me $4,000 to repair it without mentioning there was a recall and they were supposed to fix that for free. Car companies make mistakes all the time, but what I didn’t expect was the level of deception and lies from Honda. I would never buy one of their cars again
I had a 2008 Honda Accord. That generation was notorious for maintenance issues and there are recalls and service bulletins for that vehicle for known issues. I take excellent care of my vehicles but even then I had a number of issues with that car from ac compressor going out, oil burning and leaking, oil solenoid going out multiple times, and hard grinding sound during cold starts requiring expensive repairs. There were other minor issues like the passenger ac vent not working properly. I finally got rid of it after many years. Only kept it because it was paid off.
People brag about the reliability of accords but I then they tell me they only lasted 120-130k miles. My explorer has outlived accords that my friends owned lol
@@MrSupernova111 sorry if I wasn't clear, I didn't say accords are bad cars, I still think the new ones are ok. they really don't get any problems until 120000 miles, which is 10 yrs or so. Just, when in the hands of normal people who don't care, they aren't as reliable the fanbase says.
Current honda Tech here we have all these recalls in our shop Currently, and this is talk among out techs that quality control has really slipped. I have had old honda products, 3rd Gen integra, and 1st Gen crv that have been reliable at 100,000 +miles, but yeah, they're not built like they used to,the found of the company would be very disappointed in his company now
@@Tiggidy_ my mom had a 1999 Honda CR-V with 375,000 miles on the clock. The only reason we got rid of it was because she got into an accident and car was totaled. We bought a brand new 2017 Honda CR-V and it was burning oil, transmission issues, radio issues, 2-3 different recalls that were a headache to schedule because local Honda dealership didn’t have enough technicians. I would put Honda in the same bag with Nissan, Ford, GM and Chrysler
@ANicRob understandable, I'm standing in front up a 2019 Honda CR-V EX with the 1.5 turbo get a new head gasket. We have seen several turbo and hybrid model come in with blown or going head gasket but the NA engines are soild in my opinion they all have been with hondas but the turbo and hybrid DO work well; if you do get a used one, have the engine checked with a cylinder leak down test and compression test and looking into a extended warranty to cover you.
I've known 3 friends with accords. I remember they lose oil quick. 1 friend had to replace the engine before 80k miles. The other 2 i pulled out the dipstick and it was dry.
Wife has 11th Gen. 2022 Honda Civic Touring it's a 1.5L Earths Dream i-4 Turbo since Fall 2022 and as of June 2024 has 6,300 miles. We live in the Northeast, average annual snowfall of 126 inches, and her job is 6 miles round trip, not often on the highway, just saying in many ways short drives. Said short range driving and cold weather contributes to Oil Dilution. So far no signs of it and the 2022 Civic Touring been serviced 3 times now (6 mo., 12 mo., and 18 month routine maintenance). The 10th Gen was the one with Oil Dilution problems. One problem at the Honda Factory/Assembly Plants is the use of defective body parts, They do not care if there are ridges, uneven cuts, scratches, marks, bad paint job, and large Gaps when put together. We will just refer that Honda makes LEGO SNAP ONS. Yes! Honda's quality and workmanship have declined in the last 10 to 20 years. It's all about going Green, or less Emissions, and adding lots of Technology gadgets or semi-functional Safety Features that will either distract you, intimidate, aggravate, lot of lights flashing, and become annoying while driving. For all this crap, less quality and pay a fortunate for the Technology. One Recall been for Electronic Steering, Honda Tech looked at it, and took a Photo and sent to Honda Company. Total time in labor between 5 to 10 minutes but the Honda Dealership needed the car for the whole day as the scheduled appointment was 7:30am ... I was not a walk-in. Civic was ready to be picked up at 4pm as I was called at 3:50pm. It would have been simpler to have waited there providing they do the work at the appointed scheduled time. What's 10 minutes vs the inconvenience that my wife had no car all day. I have a 2023 Camry XSE V6, I have consistantly complained about Very Poor MPG. It gets average of 16.99MPG. Window sticker 22 City/ 26 avg,/32 Highway and I am 9 MPG below average. Toyota trying to convince me that the tires are causing low MPG. I'm not biting. It's an engine problem or computer that not calibrated for the injectors or fuel-air mixture. Toyota has refused to do anything about it. I would accept 2 to 3 below but 9 is way too high. Toyota is just as bad as Honda. Bottom line is about profit and don't care about the person who purchased one of their vehicles. Supposedly, Recalls will be occurring more often in the near future.
I don't understand the camry fuel consumption issue. We have 2019 Camry that gets consistently 35 to 50 mpg depending on city vs highway driving. It has only the 4 cylinder and is a little older so that is different but none the less I don't understand why there is such a huge difference in mileage.
@@brookmeyers6621 I have the 3.5L V6 2GR-FKS engine // 2023 Camry XSE V6. It's not from using Ethanol Gasoline ... Toyota and practically all Auto Manufacturers now design, engineered and made it so Ethanol Gas has very little effect on Car Engines. Cars built before year 2006 let say probably more vulnerable and don't get decent MPG with Ethanol mix. Tires may make some difference but it is usually due to improper PSI/ inflation. However, Snow-Winter tires will negatively impact your MPG up to 4 or 5 MPGs. Driver's bad habits ,, being heavy footed, a Speedster driving 10 to 50 MPH over the posted speed limit or always driving 75 - 80 -90 MPH on the Highway, fluctuation in Acceleration as can't hold a steady Speed. The Terrain that has many hills and mountains will consume more fuel to climb that huge Incline. Sorry, but auto manufacturers really don't care as they are only after your money as with any Company is it all about Capitalization or MONEY $$$$$ (Greed) profiting from anyone and everyone. Lack of Quality Control and Customer Service as it is just pure ignorance of the company. Happy to get your money, want you to buy more sooner than later, take your chances as we laugh at you while taking your money to the bank. The world is full of nuts. Watch the movie "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World". or enjoy the day with Monty Pythons "Life of Brian". We do not live in a perfect world, as my father had said, "the world is a ball of shit and everyday got to take a bite of it". Also, "You can please some of the people some of the time but you cannot please all the people all of the time." Therefore, be happy and have a fantastic life ... as no one can solve all the worlds problems. Do the best you can and smile.
@@timothylee2772I enjoy the hybrid idea, I think it’s a mix of power with fuel economy while still being reliable. Sure, the batteries will go out, but that’ll take like 10-20 years (hopefully), and as more hybrids are produced, it won’t cost too much to replace them
@@jhall_79In the long run, do you think it's worth buying a hybrid car? Sure you save money on gas every year, but the battery last 10 years max depending how much you drive and how well you maintain your car. Some people have to replace them after just 5 years.
I bought a new 1991 Honda Accord EX Coupe with a five speed manual transmission. I drove that car for 30 years until I sold it in April of 2021. Never had a clutch replacement, never had a fuel pump replacement or problem, never did anything to the engine other than regular scheduled maintenance. The car had 300,000 miles when I sold it, The best car I've ever owned and was fun to drive.
They are still; better than a lot of cars, Chevy malibus are hitting the graveyard at 8 years old. Almost every Nissan CVT fails. Honda is not what it was at it's peak though.
No, they're not reliable, my wife's hrv has gotten 4 cvt transmissions, and all this while honda did all the maintenance up until they canceled my maintenance package, like I warned them, I payed for my maintenance package, you (the dealer) the dealer can't just cancel my maintenance package, now charge my oil, they refused and called the cops on me, i called the dealer manager, cops were like you're trespassing, manager shows up,tells the fuzz, you're excused, looked at the service manager and fired him on the spot, told me come into my office, gave a check $13,500 check for my maintenance package, apologized and I left, parked that POS and bought a new car for my wife, ofcourse not CVT POS, gave it to my mother inlaw and told her goodluck, wifey, George you cant, me: hey she wanted it, I'm glad that POS is outta here!!!
My 2007 Nissan Altima 2.5 with 160,000 miles and questionable transmission has less severe problems than my wife 2021 Honda CRV! Honda quality is going down to toilet!
I have bought one brand new car. I bought a 2006 civic. This car was designed to be in the junkyard between 150,000 and 200,000. The 5 speed bearings roared at 160,000. The motor went bad at 180,000. I will never own a Honda again.
My honda crv from 1999 has over 200k miles and still giong strong; while my father's 2016 pilot with 60k miles left him stranded and he had to borrow a family member's 2007 chevy suburban to complete the trip. Honda used to be amazing and they really need to get it back on track
Audi went to the CVT excursion decades ago and they stopped and they never looked back. Today, Audi/VW is the only manufacturer that comes with DSG. And the Audi version has a two-compartment set up. The wet clutch uses ATF and the gearbox uses MTF. Super reliable and fun to drive.
I knew someone with a honda accord 2017 and it started eating oil at 45k miles. Think they got a 2019 altima after that and it has 100 something thousand miles. They do change the fluid every 30k miles drain and fill.
I'm old ;) in 2003 I wanted to buy the CTR EP3 here it was around 35-38'000USD equivalent...today it's 61'000USD equivalent LOL it has 100hp more yes but no awd unlike it's last competitor the focus rs mk3 who also had 45hp more and was 15 to 7k less depending on version
The issue is that these cars are larger and heavier. The engines are smaller and have more power, higher revs, and more heat. And its a complicated power train. Make these cars weigh 2200 lbs with 2.4L naturally aspirated engines and you'll have a solid car. Look at what makes a Camry great...
I bought a pre-owned Honda Civic 2016 LX last year. It was Honda certified and bought from Honda dealership. With 100k miles. Since last one year the AC has kept breaking down again and again. Dealership has replaced Compressor, two condensers and lots of AC pipes. Still regret my decision buying it.
It’s a known problem for the 10th gen civic. Mine went out the second summer I owned a brand new SI. The cool thing is that the car depreciated only $5,000 when I traded it in 5 years after purchase.
Bought my 2018 Civic Hatchback, LX, 6 speed, 1.5 turbo, brand new in Nov of 2017. Just turned over 100k miles last week, no major problems except A/C work under warranty a few years back. The engine runs great, I get 40 mpg on the highway, and some You Tube guy has 700,000 miles of his 2016 Civic 1.5 turbo, so it's not too bad. I did get a recall notice on my fuel pump but haven't had any problems yet so haven't replaced fuel pump. I think it's a great car ..... and tons of room too! And I also have a Honda dirt bike, a Honda lawnmower, and a Honda generator - all work great. Cheers!
I'm not a fan of modern vehicles. I'll keep my 2017 370Z until the wheels fall off. It's made the way a car should be: naturally aspirated, manual, and port injected. It may not be fast by modern standards, but you will never have to worry about engine or transmission reliability.
All CVT transmissions SUCK, SUCK, SUCK! People: don’t buy any car with a CVT & the manufacturers will stop making them. What’s the next problem we can solve? lol 😂
My 2015 Honda jazz hybrid (fit) still doesn't have issue with the CVT it has around 190,000 KM. But I do replace the CVT fluid every 3 years and no more than 40K KM. Newer hybrid models all have e-CVT which has nothing to do with regular CVT and it is much more reliable than regular automatic transmission - because it is much simpler design.
Bought a Honda CRV in 2018 and I started having issues from the day I took delivery. An absolute disappointment altogether and last year, I started having axle problems. Even my Nissan started out performing my Honda. Can you beat that?
I have Honda Accord 2014. Had starter problem, misfire cylinder 3 problems, head gasket problem, and cylinder head problem... Now I'm afraid of seeing a transmission problem
Its your oarticular 2014 Accord that is bad igiess. Or you dont treat it well lol. i have a 2014, My wife has a 2013. No issues for over 80k miles on both
@ possibly. I basically always took it to the dealership for repairs on schedule. I usually don’t drive aggressively but I do sometimes. I’ve heard my model was known for having starter problems. I can’t rule out dealerships are messing up my car on purpose either…
Honda reliability didn’t go from First to worst!!! First of all Honda was never first Toyota is first and always will be first second Honda is still better than most car brands.! Honda is still Top five cars in reliability!!! Toyota, Subaru, Mazda, And Honda.
Actuially a honda with a manual transmission is more reliable than a toyota. Only reason honda is behind toyota in that department is due to they way they build their automatic transmissions they are unlike any regular automatic out there. And they absolutely require you to service them which people never do and they fail.
We're on our 4th Odyssey and also had an Acura MDX. We had a transmission failure on our 2001 Odyssey at 99,000 miles...Honda covered it. And we had a VCM issue with our 2009 Odyssey...requiring new piston rings...and Honda covered that as well. Had major oil consumption issues as a symptoms. The MDX was durable but had issues with interior plastic bits breaking. We currently have a 2017 Odyssey and it's been great so far...just completed the 105K mile service including the timing belt. I am more on the conservative side with servicing and try to change the transmission fluid more frequently and change the oil at 4 to 5K miles versus following the maintenance minder. I did have one service writer try to talk me out of an oil change because the maintenance minder said it wasn't time...I responded, the oil change is cheaper than a new engine and I'm paying for it. I think they footnoted our service profile that I go by mileage and not by service minder since then.
I have a 2018 Civic EX-T with the 1.5T (manual 6 sp.) and am loving it. And I beat the so-called oil dilution issue! I drove all winter on the same oil change this past winter. When I submitted an oil sample to Blackstone Labs this past spring, they found very low gas in my oil! I found that if I drive right off in the winter without a warm up, the car warms up much faster than just sitting. I do drive it gently until it is warmed up to take it easy on the turbo. But the engine warms up so much faster the gas does not get past the rings much. I also drive at higher RPMs in the winter and only drive at 5th gear at highway speeds. It still gets about as good gas mileage in 5th gear. I only use 6th gear in the summer. I found that higher RPMS and therefore hotter combustion and overall higher top end temperatures also keeps gas burning up before it gets through the rings down into my crankcase. And the head gasket issue doesn't happen much in the lighter weight Civic nearly as much as in the heavier CRVs and Accord. My Blackstone sample was actually below the average for all vehicles.
Very well presented. Respecting the unique requirements of turbo engines with respect to warmup, cool down and rpm/torque curve may alleviate many common issues. Consider top tier oils such as Penzoil Ultra Platinum, my favorite, or Castrol Edge.
This is all internet/youtuber exaggeration and hyperbole. All manufacturers have had issues and recalls for a long time. There are always a few lemons, but these youtuber take some anecdotal evidence and rumors and overblow everything. My parents have had two Hondas with cvts for years and had zero issues. I had an 2014 Accord with the cvt for over 150k miles also no issues. My brother has a 2021 civic 1.5t touring with a ton of miles with no oil dilution or any other supposed typical engine problem. People watch these types of videos and parrot all this as if they themselves experienced these issues, even without having said Honda products with the supposed widespread issues.
Yet Honda and Toyota fanboys like to parrot the same bs that every other manufacturer is unreliable even though most of them have improved including BMW ffs lol I get that you guys like to live in the past but it is no longer the 90s anymore lmao
That's your opinion as a FANBOY. What's not an opinion, are FACTS. Don't downplay facts when the people who suffered from these common failures were left to pay the repair because Honda / Acura corporate keep playing the "I've never heard of this issue" game.
You can't say this video is wrong just because your experiences don't match. The facts this video is based on don't affect every Honda. ie. your mileage may vary
We had an 18 Civic SI that developed a SEVERE dilution problem at 77k (I check my oil frequently). It was my DD, never abused, never modified, early oil and filter changes ever 5k, and Honda America said they wouldn't help us unless it was stalling or throwing engine codes. That sucked because I really like the SI otherwise....
You forgot the LED headlights that fail after the warranty is up. The Earth Dream engines that fill the crankcase up with unburned fuel and Honda claims isn't something that damages engine internals (it does). Honda Civics with engine blocks that cracked. Transmissions that are garbage. Ridgelines that cook the torque converter. etc
I love my Mazda This is my second Skyactiv Mazda I’ve had zero issues and I beat on my cars. Just gotta keep up with maintenance. Great cars and easy to work on. The CX-90/70 are brand new so I’d wait on those but they will also be very reliable cars. Mazda didn’t spare any expense on the drivetrains. They are pretty simple too. Overall I have no problem trusting Mazda
I find it hilarious that my first car which was a hyundai elantra outlasted my moms CRV equipped with the K24Z3 engine known for failing piston rings. My elantra which was a HYUNDAI burnt zero oil. Hers? Every second fill up you had to add oil and it started knocking bad.
@@lonniebeal6032 My genesis coupe has yet to be stolen and never heard any kia boy stealing them. Also this whole GDI thing needs to stop a simple catch can or yearly spark plug replacements will prevent this. I know a owner with a GDI G6DA 3.8 V6 genesis coupe with 297,000kms on the original engine. Take what the internet says with a grain of salt…
Wasn’t aware. Pretty surprising. I’ve had 3, and sold all 3 after one to many problems with all of them but never thought of them as bad cars, but I didn’t like working on them - everything was too tightly cramped.
My first encounter with Honda quality was with an Acura TL. The wind shield wipers broke and the rear view mirror leaked an acid that burned a hole in the console. Both at about 40,000 miles, but out of warranty. The transmission had to be replaced at 60,000 miles. My second encounter with Honda was my Pilot Touring AWD. All the trouble lights activated at 50,000 miles. After researching, I coincidentally found out that that the rear differential fluid was supposed to be changed at 5,000 miles. Also, the transmission fluid must be changed every 30,000 miles. The parts alone for these fluid changes is over $400 and labor another $400. So, I do it myself. Honda does not specify what maintenance is required; they want to force you to rely on the dealer for all maintenance (X oil change). The auto stop-start system would leave us stranded at an intersection. So, we have to disable it every time the car is started. Back to the check engine, check LKAS, check ABS, etc. lights all coming on was because of fuel system failure, which had to be replaced. I also had to clean the ground bar in the main fuses, or the lights would all activate. The auto lock system failed and had to be replaced. We had a cracked windshield that could only be replaced with an OEM Honda windshield and it took over an hour of driving to recalibrate the LKAS system ($1,500). Luckily my other cars are Toyotas (Japan) and a Mercedes (Germany). All these cars are totally reliable compared to the Honda and Acura. The Acura, I have to say, was a pleasure to drive and had less problems than the Pilot(made in Alabama).
That sounds strange. Maybe you purchased the vehicle used from someone who didn't take care of it. I was able to find the service schedule for newer acuras and it says that differential fluid should be replaced at 15k miles (not 5k). Its normally recommended that cvt transmission fluid is replaced at 30k miles - this is common knowledge. Otherwise, Acura recommends a change in transmission fluid at 120k miles.
@@MrSupernova111 The Pilot was new. When I had problems with my pilot I researched and found that I should be changing fluids. The recommendation was 30,000 miles. I was at 50,000 miles when I changed all the driveline fluids myself and the transmission and diff fluids were black. I had to replace the transmission in the Acura at 60,000 miles, so I believe that transmission needed to be changed at 30,000 miles too. Research on the Acura found lots of complaints about the transmission, so I changed the new transmission fluid and filter at 30k. Glad I did. I haven’t had this many problems with cars since my old Fords from the 70’s. Sold the Acura, which was a great deal for the guy having fixed everything. Still have the Pilot. It rides good and am very familiar with all the care needed.
@@Norm100ful . Sounds like a change of transmission fluid at 30k is a safe bet in general. I'm surprised the diff fluid needs to be changed so soon. Good to know. Cheers!
I love Honda, even when they don't make the best looking cars. I believe in their reliability and fun driving experience, have they forgotten their heritage and reputation? I'm shocked to see that Honda would allow poor products to leave their assembly lines. Honda what are you doing?
2019 FK8, no issues with my manual gearbox. By comparison, our 2018 K24 powered Odyssey (JDM/Asia/Oceania spec, not US) with CVT lasted to 100K kms and then Honda replaced the entire CVT with a new one. The NA K24 as you mentioned is an amazing motor, especially pulling an 1800kg Odyssey around. But the CVT experience in the Japan built Odyssey, along with the hit and miss build quality from the Swindon UK FK8 (rattles etc) has led us to replace the Odyssey with German engineering.
While Toyota is the hybrid king, Honda has spread itself thin with way too many models and drive trains that nobody asked for. Still, if you’d like to see motor nirvana, just pop open a civic hood and admire! Thanks for sharing.
Honda still makes reliable engines. It’s just the CVTs that suck. I have a 08 Honda City. Engine still runs great. It has about 145K milage on it. But man the CVT leaves a lot to be desired. Been dealing with this shuddering issue for a long time despite keeping up with the maintenance schedule. God i wish manufacturers go back to using the good old automatic transmission
Sadly, you kind of need a transmission to make a car useful... unless you just like sitting in your driveway revving your engine (not a bad plan). I really wish they would stick to manual transmissions. I would never buy automatic Honda, but a manual Honda is definitely something worth while... if the price is right.
I bought my 2020 Accord 2.0T last year w/41K on the clock and have changed the oil every 3K. Found out a chick owned it previously so almost certain it wasn't broken in properly
The best thing for the planed is to incetive keep older cars in optimal condition, with reliable 4 cyl engines and lower speed limits again, i dont get how some street cars reach 400hp , there is no need for that in the streets
I love the 8th gen Civic SI. High redline 2 liter NA engines are definitely more reliable than 1.5 turbos and are a lot of fun. They also sound better than many V6 engines.
I have a 2018 Honda Accord (1.5T)with 61,560 miles. This week the dealer recommended all new fuel injectors at a cost of $2000 to remedy a slightly rough idle and a power decrease which has only happened once and lasted maybe 5-8 seconds. I turned off my engine and restarted it in about 30 seconds and the engine was fine and with full power. I expected better reliability from my 2018 Accord. Now I am fearful of buying another Honda since the reliability ratings have dropped to nearly dead last. My previous three Hondas (2006 Civic, 2010 Civic and 2014 Accord) were reliable.
I had a 22 civic si loved it but passenger window was going down slow and noticed it so I waited for my first oil change to bring it up also noticed the logo moving inward and all they did was spray silicone and then sent the car out with the trim damaged noticed it brought it in the next day and they had to order $500 worth of parts to replace it. Then at 13k I was parked up a hill and when I turned the car off the steering wheel turned with my hands on it with a good amount of force and my steering wheel was off ever since. A few months down the road and guess what the steering starts getting sticky 😂. The funny part is was watching a video on a 22 civic si and the steering getting stuck and it happened to me when I was turning I ended up trading it in unfortunately
I have a 2020 and heard the new model was coming out in 2022, so I bought the current model thinking they got all the bug out of it. Honda has gone down in quality. The Toyota is the best now overall. My next car is the base model Corolla. Its about $4k cheaper than the new Civic base model.
I have a 2006 Accord V6 Coupe that I drove and then gave to my son. Only car I ever owned that did not require a single repair outside of regular maintenance. That being said, I would not buy a 2018-2012 turbo Honda. Too many recalls. Too much risk that previous owners didn't properly care for their turbos.
Concur. I've driven since 1977, owned 10 or 12 cars and trucks, and seen the cycles where the automakers dote on turbo engines every 10 years or so. They advertise their "new" turbo engines, claim some performance improvements and offer the car at a premium. Doesn't take longer than two model years until the engines start blowing up en masse' from owners abusing it or failing to maintain it. Turbo engine quietly disappears in favor of old normally aspirated engines for several years until the last turbo engine debacle is forgotten, then the whole thing repeats again.
Had a Pilot 2017 wonderful vehicle. At 58000 the Trans started slipping into 4th. Changed the fluid, and after 30 miles it failed no longer shifted and failed completely. Fortunately, I had the platinum extended Warrenty. I received a Brand new loaner and a Brand new transmission, and I Paid $100.00 deductible for everything. It reminded me of a work story. I was service manager for plotter mfg and a newly released product component failed. In a meeting with the GM, he asked what we will do. I set up a rapid exchange program and assured the GM, "It doesn't matter if it fails. What matters is, How Fast You Fix it!!!"
Am I the lucky one? Had my CRV for 5 years, not a single problem with either the Turbo engine or CVT. Runs like a top and has been a great car. I'm so glad I bought it.
@@NatureBoy12100 I'm still driving my 1990 manual Mazda Protege with naturally aspirated 1.8 DOHC today -- brimming with “steering feel” from the hydraulic power assist, while enjoying the excitement of its standard “wild oversteer” set up. th-cam.com/video/V6pd2C-XZ4w/w-d-xo.html
That's what happens when you have a tiny 1.6 engine trying to pull a car. No engine should be smaller than a 2.0 imo. Trying to make up in power with turbos on tiny engines is a recipe for disaster imo.
Currently driving a 2009 Honda Fit sport with over 370,000 Mi on it. My wife is currently driving a 2014 Honda Fit base with something like 200k miles, with a CVT. Both vehicles have never had any major repairs. Only general maintenance. But a car that's perfectly fine one day, can give up the ghost the next
Thats what they get treating there workers like shit! I worked at the plant in Alabama and was terminated after my surgery. Also, their attendance policy is ass. You have no family time at all and will get a point if you get sick on the floor and have to leave work. We as workers need more labor laws and that plant definitely needs a union
@@genichiroashina6372 it only had 60,000 Mi on it but he didn't get it from a dealer he got it from a private seller who mostly just sells Hondas he said he got it at auction in Arkansas it was supposed to been a one-owner female driver the motor look very clean look new the interior look new I don't know what they did to it LOL but he's headed for 4 months now and hasn't even been able to drive a thousand miles on it without it going to the shop first it was coil pack then fuel injectors didn't need a tune-up spark plugs now they saying it's probably the fuel pump but the fuel injectors they ordered was supposed to be new but they look rusted so the mechanic only felt safe for using one of them he put that in where it said on the computer that was the bad one he drove up to Franklin because that's the closest dealership to Columbia Tennessee for Honda kind of seem like they've been getting over on him every time he comes they want $235 diagnostic fee even if they would have just done one the week before' they told him they think he had a bad head gasket but they wasn't sure but it would be $4,000 for them to check and put one on if it needs it he went back to independent foreign car mechanic in Columbia GT automotive day Runner scope down in the engine and everything told them they couldn't see anything that was so it had a crack head or a head gasket but it was a lot of fuel in the chamber they think the old fuel injectors have started leaking Gahanna dealership in Murfreesboro told him to bring it up there and they would do a diagnostic and if it was the fuel pump they would not charge him the fee and have it expedited the dealership in Franklin had called a few weeks back and said they had one he told them he could not make it up there to the next day they told him he had 30 days to do it the next day he called them they had put it on someone else's car told him they would not be able to get another one into this fall, regardless he said if the guy GT automotive gets his fixed he's trading it in on something the same week he's fed up with it
@@genichiroashina6372 . Yep. I think a lot of these people complaining bought an abused and neglected pre-owned vehicle and are being hit with the resulting repairs. Another person is complaining about a laundry list of issues well beyond normal wear and tear issues. Hard to take some of this people seriously.
@@MrSupernova111 exactly, I agree that today's honda have become boring and drab looking compared to their old civic models. But to rate honda as unreliable is so wrong.
Thank you sir, excellent. I'm hoping the 2.0T is much better since it can handle the power? Right now I have a 2017 Accord Sport Special Edition with the 2.4 but it has a CVT.
I own 3 honda's from this era - 2016 accord, 2019 Oddessy and 2023 CRV. None of which have had any issues at all. 2 of them are over 100k miles and aside from a few recalls (Which have been quick and easy) I have never had a check engine or a breakdown ever. In fact, I'd argue the 2016 accord's cvt has been nothing but bullet prof. Hell, it survived 2 teenagers. It shocks me too see everyone having all these issues
This is all internet/youtuber exaggeration and hyperbole. All manufacturers have had issues and recalls for a long time. There are always a few lemons, but these youtuber take some anecdotal evidence and rumors and overblow everything. My parents have had two Hondas with cvts for years and had zero issues. I had an 2014 Accord with the cvt for over 150k miles also no issues. My brother has a 2021 civic 1.5t touring with a ton of miles with no oil dilution or any other supposed typical engine problem. People watch these types of videos and parrot all this as if they themselves experienced these issues, even without having said Honda products with the supposed widespread issues.
People like to lump all traditional CVTs as unreliable just because of Nissan. They’ve been using CVTs since the 9th generation Civic with no major issues. I have a 2016 Civic with 110k miles on it but I did have the air conditioning failure which they replaced under the extended warranty. The other issue I have with mine is peeling paint, not the clear coat but the whole thing is peeling near the rear window.
I also have a 16 Accord but a Touring V6. The only issue I’ve experienced is with the CarPlay, which freezes from time to time. Not lost on me is that this generation was never developed with CarPlay in mind. Aside from that, it’s been a great car and now used by my own teenager.
Bought a 2017 Civic Sport+ in 2019, I didn't have any problems in 5 years, love the car. Some friends did, with the fuel pump for example, but in general they are also in love with the car.
I had a 90 civic with the garbage automatic transmission. It was my pizza delivery car. At one point I lost reverse so whenever I pulled into a driveway I made sure it was a hill so I could just coast back down in neutral. That 1.5 liter engine was gutless but was the least of my concerns.
For the people with issues on 1.5 l turbo engine, and cvt trans honda. Dont drive yours car like a race car, change oils 3 k miles, keep all the maintenance up today, and you will be fine.
That's a lot of money wasted on purely oil changes lmao. Every 5k is fine like everyone says. I guess you could change it every 3k, but there's probably zero difference from changing it every 5k.
There is a Honda Accord 1.5t , cvt transmission with 300k miles on it, not sure how he got that high mileage, but Honda is really good at making car, but if you want yours car last longer, I would say u have to change yours engine oil 3 to 5 k miles, and cvt transmission 10k to 15 k miles.
I hear people who don't do their research snub their nose at Hyundais, saying they all blow up and that Honda is soooo good, bc of their ethos. I bought a new Hyundai Elantra N in 2023 for the price of a Civic SI after learning how good the car is and seeing how much better Hyundai has gotten over the last 5 years. Honda got fat and lazy and Hyundai hit a home run with the N brand and the Elantra models but people who don't think for themselves have not heard that enough from the people they get their opinions from yet. That means stealerships mark-up Hondas and Hyundais sell for MSRP and I am so glad, otherwise I might own a Civic SI and be getting gapped by Golf GTI and Dodge chargers instead of gapping them in my 320 whp tuned CN7. Why would Honda mess up the MT gearbox that they are famous for? They were great! Have fun with the CVT ATV-type transmission. The CN7 comes with an amazing DCT or the standard 6-speed manual that I bought! BTW, the turbo engine can last if maintained and cared for. The DI gets dirty, but water-methanol injection done right cools intakes and acts as a detergent for the engine and injectors. Turbos get starved for oil or bake when people just park and turn them off without letting them cool and cycle oil for a minute or two. I let my CN7 cool until the oil temp is under 200 degrees, then turn it off.
2008 2.2L CR-V diesel , factory withour DPF manual, right now at 190.000 miles. Still works like a charm, averages about 37MPG . We change oil every 5000 miles, with full synthetic Mobil 1 0w30. I have seen some newer models having issues, so i plan to keep this one as long as it works.
Would you buy a Honda?!
I bought and sold within 4 months and switched to another brand. Hybrids from Honda are terrible
Honda Engineer Here. No I wouldn't. Hiring non high school educated people and paying them 95,000$ a year to put a "No Go" gauge sideways a few times an hour is a good indicator that their products are shit
@@lucysmith4242did You know that Mr Honda himself was self taught Non High school grad...I'm think the Engineers might be more the issue...
Absolutely, my tuned Accord 2.0t is still running strong.
I may buy an old one but new ones are so miserable overpriced junk
It used to be that turbos were only on performance models, driven by enthusiasts who cared to make sure their vehicle ran well. Now they're in regular cars where people don't care about the upkeep.
It’s all because of the government and EnviroTards who have made our lives hell. All the unrealistic fuel economy regulations being pushed on manufacturers is causing them to do whatever it takes to make fuel efficient engines at the cost of reliability.
I bought a new Integra and Manual Accord back in the day. I though Honda might slap a turbo on a car with its regular engine to make a cool performance version. I never thought they would replace the "big" 4 cyl they have been updating for 30 years with a little turbo motor.
@@mitchhedberg4415 true I owned a 2010 Accord EX with the K24 and 5 speed and my wife owned a 98 CL with the 2.3 F series engine and also a 5 speed manual. Those cars were pretty solid at 150K with just regular maintenance. Can't say the same about the tiny 1.5 Turbo vehicles they're selling today....
If you want to drive a Diesel and many of us Europeans (That is European, not necessarily EU) do. You need a turbo to have any real horsepower for a car sized engine. Hell, even all modern trucks use turbos on their engines.
Sorry, if you are getting gas (petrol) blow by on pistons, the turbo isn't the problem. The pressure comes from combustion, not a few pounds of boost.
*"Honda has a reputation for reliability"* It has made a goodly amount of clunkers too. Honda originally was a motorcycle company. Look up the 125S engine and the problems with the camshaft housing and oil feed.
The camshaft problems were revisited in a completely different manner with the VF V4 engines. Very possibly line boring in this case for those who are interested. The VF engine camshafts were a complete and utter dog. The sort of dog that destroys a company's reputation, if not quite destroying the company. Honda's response was the truly brilliant gear driven cam engine of the VFR. Generally the VFR750. Honda didn't spare the pennies on the new frame, both in design and engineering. The fact is, everything on that bike was as good as it could be. Very possibly losses were made to regain reputation.
A Japanese grey import RVF400 (All Japanese home market bikes are a quality level [or 2] higher) is about as close to perfection as you can get. Well, allowing for the fact that it isn't a 2-stroke, and 2-stroke bikes are always better!
i hate how manufacturers decided to put turbo in almost every vehicle now let’s be real, why does a jeep wrangler need a turbo why does a suv need a turbo? Why are average joes giving access to 300hp when they haven’t even pushed 200hp causing a huge increase of danger on the road
Small turbo engine and cvt, what can possibly go wrong?
Small turbo engines made from aluminium, even worst.
Type r engines suffer from the same problem, although not as agressive as the 1.5.
Don't forget Direct Injection as well...
I prefer cast iron cable throttled electronic port injected fuel rail mounted fuel pressure regulator turbo engines.
@@davidperry4013 Would probably be more reliable, haha
NONE of Mazda's cars have CVT. they also have good and reliable non-turbo options. And nicer interiors...
For me Mazda is of the most reliable brand right now, that’s until they messed up with the new CX90 with no torque converter … however, Mazda 3, CX30, Mazda 5, etc are all very reliable
I haven't heard of many Subarus that have issues with the CVTs. Nissans on the other hand are noutorus for their CVT failures. Like every vehicle there are some that are lemons, but I haven't heard many complaints about the CVTs Subaru uses.
@@FirstLast-kb7knWhat about their boxer engines and AWD system? Do they hold up in the long term? Like 150k-200k miles
I can actually do my work on a cx5 non turbo. The new 3.3 inline 6 engine requires a lot of "engine out" repairs, unfortunately
@@FirstLast-kb7knthe problem with Subaru are the engines. Their CVT’s are pretty reliable. Other long term issues with Subarus are corrosion. This has the unfortunate effect of expensive repairs, especially related to brakes and wheel bearings.
Meanwhile Mazda skyactiv engine and transmission family is mostly unchanged since 2012, other than late versions receiving a turbo and the newly introduced I6. Vehicles with these drivetrains are considered among the most reliable on the road. Just change oil and keep going.
Anything else will seem unreliable if you’ve ever owned a civic from the 90’s
Exactly 😂😂 my honda could be redlined like hell and run like It never happened😂😂 older hondas built different 😂
Totally agree and some
2000’s Hondas, my manual 06 crv is so well built compared too anything new from Honda
Na, My 2010 Insight had 324 on it when i hit a deer. My current 2010 Prius has 290K.
I owned many of those old civic from the late 80s and 90s. They were good, but 200K was alot of miles back them. Its nothing now.
Ah yes the gentlemen agreement era. (the era were all JDM purposely over built engines to be tuned by the aftermarket to get the Japanese government off their back over street racing factory built cars while keeping their fans happy) That era is long gone now.
Unless you try to upgrade those garbage engines.
I work at a honda dealership. We get recalls on fuel pump, seatbelt, steering rack, rear camera, touchscreen radio, and some emissions recall to this day. We get tens of customers with recalls.
I work in rental cars it is everyone for everything just when they finish a campaign they announce another one sometimes for the same thing on the same car as the fix didn't fix anything.
When can I get my fuel pump replaced got the notice in the mail earlier this year
That's actually not a lot especially considering some of that stuff isn't actually made by Honda it's mad why another company and some of these recalls don't even affect all cars listed. Like mine has the seatbelt recall but mine was one of what seems like the majority where is was installed correctly. Only a portion of the cars listed actually need the fix they just don't know which exactly.
Don't forget the A/C
Seatbelts should not be in cars.
Honda used to be made 100% in Japan. Now only about 20%. Enough said...
Toyota and Honda sold out. Look what Toyota did with the supra. Outsourced it to bmw and trying to fool people and put a Toyota badge on it. If I wanted a bmw z I would of bought one. Pathetic.
@@KrishnaSingh-ow1ienobody getting fool you fool. all new supra owner know their engine from bmw. to ensure engine reliability that bmw engine need to follow some specification from toyota.
I BELIEVE Toyota is very similar. I think the 86 is still Japanese at least.
I 100% stand by my all Japanese 88' Supra, 01' Celica, and 94' Camry. Just knowing that the car itself and pretty much everything in it is 100% Japanese and over engineered to hell is exactly what I want. Their newer cars don't feel remotely the same level of quality. I actually drove my Supra to a local Toyota dealer to look at their stock and chatted it up with two guys working there and they straight up said they do not have ANYTHING as nice as my old Supra on the lot and to just keep it. That says a lot.
You can see it from their recent designs too...@@KrishnaSingh-ow1ie
@@EGK20 I agree. It should be something to deal with the cost and the quality. That is the reason Toyota Supra is made by Bimmer.
I'm convinced that manufacturers have been trying to recoup losses during covid and have been cutting corners and jacking up prices to accomplish that ever since. Lotsa turbos, CVTs, infotainment screens and other bad ideas have also contributed. And its not only Honda; Toyota, Ford, ALL of Stellantis, Mercedes and others have all suffered QC issues lately. All I know is my 2000 Lexus GS400 with 210K, runs like new, and is built like a bank vault...will run forever. From a time when you got extra engineering when you paid extra $$.
Manufacturers in EVERY industry are using Covid as an excuse to recoup losses and then some. It seems like now they cant stop.
Agreed. Don't forget about the chip shortage that caused so much chaos. Auto companies are not the only ones, everybody is doing it, that's why people are feeling like nothing is affordable anymore.
You realize all the things you listed cost extra to build, source, engineer, and manufacture. A turbo engineer requires more engineering. If they wanted more profits they would sell the simpler cars like your Lexus and sell them at current prices. It's literally the government causing all this and the consumer.
Hell the lubrication is way more advanced (thanks to additional engineering and costs) to handle these extreme engines and conditions. All adding to costs.
@@aaron___6014 Cause those features sell, for normal people who doesn't know better, more features is good.
my honda dealer said my 95 Civic is the most reliable and should last a lifetime. currently she has 211K miles.
I recall a few sources claiming those are, or at least were, capable of up to 50mpg highway; is this the case?
@@alexwalker8422 maybe but today in order to keep up with modern cars speeds I have to rev it pretty high just to keep up.
Spend what ever you can to keep that car on the road, it will definitely last you a life time! You might have to rebuild the engine, but not for another million miles.
@@COSMACELF1802will last a lifetime if you’re ever in a big crash as you won’t survive a major crash in a car with that little old safety 💀💀
@@GTFour Yeah, those small Honda's can be converted to a casket.
I blame greed and technology. But I'll still buy a Honda over Nissan, Hyundai, KIA, Ford, Dodge, Chrysler, Chevrolet and Mazda. Honda and Toyota only.
Nissan is alright as long as you don’t get a cvt, Mazda and Ford is decent too. Chevy has some issues but cheap to fix but Hyundai, Kia dodge and Chrysler are dirt.
@@256jayy3 Hyundai and Kia are great. Unless they are built in the US. You will get an incredibly reliable car if you find a Hyundai or Kia that is not built in the USA but built in Korea
Do you know new Mazda are as good as Toyota?
I don't know everybody hates on nissan... Granted their c v t's are pretty lame. they were also the first car company pushing them ..And I see everyone else's followed suit. I've had a bunch of nissan over the years and I would put them up against honda or toyota anyday... granted they were all manuals
I'd never buy a Honda or a Toyota.
I disagree with some things and agree with others.
Consumer reports ratings have already been improving if you looked at recent years.
2021: 5th place.
2022: 5th place.
2023: 4th place.
Also, Honda hasn’t had issues with their CVTs, they’ve been using them since early 2010s.
People just like to lump all traditional CVTs as unreliable because of Nissan.
The 1.5 Turbo is terrible and probably Honda’s worst engine. Looks like they’re phasing it out for the hybrid system. You can’t get the 1.5 Turbo in the 2025 Civic anymore. New Civic is only 2.0 NA hybrid and 2.0 NA.
They’ll most likely make the CR-V hybrid only in the mid cycle refresh. Their new battery plant is going online next year and you’ll see them offer/produce more hybrids.
A hybrid HR-V is coming in too.
Their paint quality is terrible though.
Nissan, Subaru and Toyota all have had major problems with their CVTs. I think it's okay to group *MOST* CVTs together when saying they're unreliable. Additionally Honda's CVTs have absolutely had issues, just not at the rates their competitors have had and no recalls issued about them. Doesn't mean it's not happening. Honda's paint quality is absolutely dogshit though. Never understood how that wasn't a lawsuit/recall.
@@Caffeinated-DaVinci Can you provide some sources on how Toyota and Honda traditional CVTs had major issues/higher than average failure rates?
I’m interested in reading about it.
@Caffeinated-DaVinci the majority of the issues with Honda CVTs are experienced under 3 circumstances. Neglected maintenance, modded/abused cars, and 1st generation HR-Vs. They're actually decent otherwise
You must be a salesperson for Honda 😢
How horrible? Not from a mod POV because some people forget it's ultimately an econ engine and not a race engine and blow it up then cry how it sucks. Some don't let it warm up in cold climates, and then they get more dilution problems. It's a very tricky engine for some to understand but to call them terrible may be a stretch.
This is not the only problem in auto industry. The problem is causing from the world leaders, the global emissions, the political, the climate change, the EPA, the local government, the education and the EV development costs . All of these causes all of the cut costs, cut development, cut quality, cut value , cut reliability, cut customer support and cut labor. Finally, we got a dream of problems EV!
Forcing manufacturers to build cars that save a few drops of fuel at the huge expense of durability and reliability.
Thank god everything costs 25x what it used to as well...
Climate change is a real problem and if manufacturers can't make efficient and reliable vehicles without polluting like mad then they suck at manufacturing.
Right on point! Nice summary of the situation.🤔
@@leonardrice2830 No, literally comically dumb nonsense...
To be fair, Honda CVTs are more reliable than most other CVTs. In Honda’s bigger vehicles, their 10ATs are reliable unlike the older 9ATs and 6ATs. As for engines, the L15 turbo is a bad apple in Honda’s engines, whereas Honda’s other new engines like 2.0s, 3.5s, and hybrids are reliable by design. The 3.5 recalls were caused by manufacturing, not design. The fuel pump recall involves DENSO fuel pumps, which DENSO was actually owned by Toyota.
This! And yes the L15 is being phased out so it will only improve things.
What can you tell me about the VCM issues on J series engines? That's not a manufacturing flaw, but more of a design fault.
@@theholt2ic219 that's simply not true. Honda is not developing any new gas engines right now and they need the L15 to meet CAFE standards.
@@engineer_alv VCM was an issue on older engines, but the newer engines have addressed that issue, so they do not have VCM issues like the older engines. The manufacturing flaw I was referring to was the rod bearing issue.
@@engineer_alv you will not find the L15 on the 2025 Civic unless you get the Si because it has been replaced by a hybrid powertrain, which is much more reliable and better meets the CAFE standards.
They are going trough the same problem bmw faced late 2000s. Switching from n/a to forced induction is pretty hard when you’ve mastered the n/a engines for so long
Could be an issue given that they're 1.5T engine can have some issues but their k20c is very reliable which is weird. Guess it doesn't matter anymore since they're switching to their 2.0 n/a hybrid setup
I agree with this 100%. The same thing is happening with Toyota and their new tundras. It’s trying to find a reliable workaround for a turbo charged vehicle which is insanely hard because of how much heat a turbo puts back into the engine.
Except bmw is still having massive issues woth reliability Mazda is is the new king of reliability
@@BIGMIKE54ify last time I checked bmw is top 5 in reliability lmao. There is a reason why bmw had the #1 sales figures last year for luxury cars in USA. Don’t compare Mazda to bmw. They are in a different league
@Habibi_exe according to consumer reports bmw is 9th not top 5 porsche is 8th so they aren't even the to luxury car o wait lexas is ahead of both of them and bmw is 1 spot in front of kia but kia is complete trash after 100k
I know a 30-yr Honda master mechanic. He says the quality has gone steadily down and continues to drop.
Saab proved a long time ago that 4 cylinder turbo engines can run forever, even at relatively high compression. I just passed 200K on my 2002 Saab 9-3 Viggen which runs great and doesn't burn oil at all. There are thousands of Saabs still running with that 2.3 L engine which makes up to 230 hp.
Saab and Volvos are so underrated imo
New engines are aluminium, vs old ones were made from steel, that's another diference.
I also own a Saab and I can't say the same about mine
@@azzahere191 Some were not made as well and some were abused or weren't maintained properly. There's definitely luck involved.
You can make a 2.3L engine making 200ish horsepower a lot more reliable than trying to squeeze the same power out of a 1.5L or smaller.
They'll certainly never be the company that made the Integra Type R or S2000 again.
Or NSX... (Oh well, the original one)
😢
Or the 1991 and earlier models that were made in japan
Nissan, Toyota, and Mazda really took over as the top Japanese brands.
Shortly after the company founder goes, management and marketing gurus slowly take over.
I love my 2017 honda civic si w/6 speed manual, I've had it for around 5 years now with no issues.
What about the AC?
@@heilaw7002 still works
@@heilaw7002with my 17 si I had the transmission and ac replaced under extended warranty. 45k miles for a failed bearing in the manual transmission. Ac had contamination in there around 85k miles. Right now I have a check engine light for rich fuel. Most likely the o2 sensor. Just need to deal with that with the dealer. I most likely got a lemon si. I’m always anal about maintenance. Other than that, no random issues like with American brands other the radio that crashes frequently because I jailbroke it.
How did I get around in the snow?
I wouldn't buy any vehicle made in 2024.
Too much fragile technology.
Fragile and rushed the worst combo 😂
And plastic
Bought a 2025 Camry. Solid 2.5 L naturally aspirated engine with the eCVT. I have this same setup on our Rav 4 Prime 2021. They both are tanks.
@@rncondie Kinda early to be speculating reliability on a 2025 model, no? Whaddya got, like 150 miles on it now?
Unlkess it gets my sela of approval.
As much as I hate Nissan. I have actually made their CVT easily last beyond 200k. The secret is to change the CVT Fluid, transmission filter, etc. every 25k miles.
I own an '04 Mazda 6 with almost 200k miles on it. I bought it used 5 years ago with 160k miles on it. First thing I did was change all the fluids (including transmission). I changed the transmission fluid again 5k miles later (my thinking was I didn't know how well it was maintained before, so changing it again would get rid of all the loose stuff stuck in there from the last one now that the fluid has been churned up a bit) and now the car runs like silk. Changing your transmission fluid at regular intervals does wonders for the operation of your vehicle, and it's a shame other people don't even think about it. I still change my oil every 3k miles on the dot, even though people say you can wait until 5k. I love my car too much to treat it like shit.
What fluid do you use? About to do a CVT trans filter and oil service on my cousin’s 2014 Sentra with a little less than 40,000mi
Nissan is one of the most reliable brands I've ever owned when it came to engines. They've been 50/50 on their transmissions, but I've gotten multiple motors well past 200K with fairly minimal maintenance.
@@vqdriver I would use oem fluid
@@richardprice7695 decided last minute to use Nissan NS-3. Leveled it using my scan tool monitoring trans temp. Works great 👍🏽
Worked for a delivery company that had the brilliant idea to use CPOd Honda Pilots for the bulk of their fleet. Every single transmission failed within 2 years.
People don't realize short trips, sitting in drive thrus and traffic is severe driving conditions.
So I assume with your viewpoint every driver should (only) drive on highways for a long distance, that's nonsense. Look maintenance is the key to a vehicle and driving your car like a race car when it's not does (alot) damage........
Honda: we have one of the best engines ever made, the K24. Let's poop on it and dump it!
Honda reliability.....
Ooops
I have a 23 Civic Sport, 14k miles. It hasn’t started 6 times throughout my ownership and now has a slipping CVT transmission. Honda can’t find any issues with it and claim it’s perfectly normal. That about sums up my Honda experience and many others’ experience recently
what do you mean slipping? cvt's in general do hesitate if you come to a fast stop then try to accelerate , there is a lag and that is normal
Should drain and refill the cvt fluid early even if it has 14k miles . Worked for me.
my buddy's 2.0 civic sport from 2022 has 31k miles and never had one single issue yet, he does have the manual like mine. I can't say much since I've only owned my 24 sport 6mt for about 3 weeks. But he has had no bad experiences thus far
I also have a 2.0 6mt and have had a leaky hatch, sound cutting off on bumps, and if it gets really cold the sound won’t come on at all. Also had a leak from a plastic valve cover.
I drive a 2013 Corolla S.
4 speed trans. No CVT.
No touchscreen.
No GDI fuel system.
No turbo(s).
Great auto and no drain on
my wallet.
And as a bonus, minimal
depreciation.
I'm loving it!
Is it a rust bucket? or paint peeling? Older Toyota vehicles have those issues.......
New corollas now only have cvt
@crow_2k11beatsbydre8 , no rust, a So Cal car. Paint and the
Clearwater good still, not perfect like my 2003 Avalon
as late as 2023.
clearcoat
I own a 2018 Honda CRV-AWD LE 2.4 L 4 banger with a CVT tranny. I put 136K miles on it because I had a long commute to work (63 miles). Knock on wood but I have had zero issues with it, I mean zero, nothing, nada. I have changed all the powertrain fluids on a regular basis. The front end is still tight, the brakes are less than half worn, the engine runs silky smooth and it literally burns no oil between 7500 mi oil changes. It has been the best car I ever bought. I just had the shop adjust the valves for the first time. The intakes were in within spec but the exhausts needed to be tighten down 0.002-0.003". I had them also clean out the carbon buildup (GDi engine) with the BG treatment. I also had them change out the brake fluid (2% moisture). I was looking to trade it in for a bigger vehicle but after researching I realized the newer stuff is indeed cheaper and lower quality so I decided to keep it after all. Yes, when the tranny blows I will have them put in a new one as this seems a better option nowadays. That is a sad thing to say.
Not just Honda, those new Tundra motors are blowing up left and right. Your best bet is to purchase an older Honda or Toyota. They built cars back when reliable was the most important factor of building cars. Now it’s about money, dam the reliability.
My 2015 Toyota Camry and my friends 2021 Camry are built like tanks.
wrong
The oil Toyota uses in those engines is 0W-8 or 0W-16. Friggin sewing machine oil. How can that be a good idea.
tundras aren't really toyotas that's the problem they aren't made by real toyota in japan but by a "franchise" in america, I know from many things for example sports tires that made in factory X does not mean it'll be the same quality than in factory Y especially not if Y is on the other side of the planet
The only new vehicle you can buy that is most reliable and bulletproof as the old Toyota/Honda is the 2025 Mazda CX-5.
2022 civic si 18k miles... Oil dilution was so bad i had to sell it.
I have a 2018 1.5T 6sp. manual and I beat the oil dilution issue. My oil samples submitted for analysis have come back as actually below average for gasoline in the oil! You just have to have brains to figure out how to beat this. I'm very knowledgeable in the area of engine mechanics. You sold a good car. My 1.5T is great, I love it.
You could've at least given them some advice, instead of calling them brainless 😢.
@@markr.1984 As an owner of a 2024 Integra Aspec, I'm curious about what you'vd done to beat the oil dilution issue. Frequent oil changes? I'm seeing recommendations of 5,000 mile intervals. Taking mine in for its first next week at around 1,500.
@@robertvogt1527 Only non-mechanical thing he could of done is more frequent oil changes, or bump up the viscosity to say 10w30 full synthetics.
@@robertvogt1527 he's obviously lying or a bot probably as this seems written by AI or someone who can definitely not fix anything
The worst car I’ve ever owned was a 2009 Honda Accord with a V6 engine. At 70,000 I noticed engine oil level was always low and between oil changes I used 3+ quarts of oil to keep it in normal range. Constant cylinder misfires due to oil flooding spark plugs. Dealership quoted me $4,000 to repair it without mentioning there was a recall and they were supposed to fix that for free. Car companies make mistakes all the time, but what I didn’t expect was the level of deception and lies from Honda. I would never buy one of their cars again
I had a 2008 Honda Accord. That generation was notorious for maintenance issues and there are recalls and service bulletins for that vehicle for known issues. I take excellent care of my vehicles but even then I had a number of issues with that car from ac compressor going out, oil burning and leaking, oil solenoid going out multiple times, and hard grinding sound during cold starts requiring expensive repairs. There were other minor issues like the passenger ac vent not working properly. I finally got rid of it after many years. Only kept it because it was paid off.
People brag about the reliability of accords but I then they tell me they only lasted 120-130k miles. My explorer has outlived accords that my friends owned lol
@@Drewcardello . I think it depends on the generation of the Accords. Pre 2008 they were solid.
@@MrSupernova111 sorry if I wasn't clear, I didn't say accords are bad cars, I still think the new ones are ok. they really don't get any problems until 120000 miles, which is 10 yrs or so. Just, when in the hands of normal people who don't care, they aren't as reliable the fanbase says.
@@Drewcardello . I agree. Cheers!
Current honda Tech here we have all these recalls in our shop Currently, and this is talk among out techs that quality control has really slipped. I have had old honda products, 3rd Gen integra, and 1st Gen crv that have been reliable at 100,000 +miles, but yeah, they're not built like they used to,the found of the company would be very disappointed in his company now
Integra :D lucky man were never sold in my country I see a few imports here and there but it's from hardcore JDM enthusiasts who paid a lot for them
@@Tiggidy_ my mom had a 1999 Honda CR-V with 375,000 miles on the clock. The only reason we got rid of it was because she got into an accident and car was totaled. We bought a brand new 2017 Honda CR-V and it was burning oil, transmission issues, radio issues, 2-3 different recalls that were a headache to schedule because local Honda dealership didn’t have enough technicians. I would put Honda in the same bag with Nissan, Ford, GM and Chrysler
I’m currently looking at a 2019 CRVEXl and a 2020 CRVExl hybrid. I love the interior, but I’m worried about the engine
@ANicRob understandable, I'm standing in front up a 2019 Honda CR-V EX with the 1.5 turbo get a new head gasket. We have seen several turbo and hybrid model come in with blown or going head gasket but the NA engines are soild in my opinion they all have been with hondas but the turbo and hybrid DO work well; if you do get a used one, have the engine checked with a cylinder leak down test and compression test and looking into a extended warranty to cover you.
What’s the NA?
I think mazda is becoming the Honda of the millennium
I've known 3 friends with accords. I remember they lose oil quick. 1 friend had to replace the engine before 80k miles. The other 2 i pulled out the dipstick and it was dry.
Bet it was 0w20 or lower...
@lonniebeal6032 idk using factory reccomended oil shouldn't cause problems
Wife has 11th Gen. 2022 Honda Civic Touring it's a 1.5L Earths Dream i-4 Turbo since Fall 2022 and as of June 2024 has 6,300 miles. We live in the Northeast, average annual snowfall of 126 inches, and her job is 6 miles round trip, not often on the highway, just saying in many ways short drives. Said short range driving and cold weather contributes to Oil Dilution. So far no signs of it and the 2022 Civic Touring been serviced 3 times now (6 mo., 12 mo., and 18 month routine maintenance). The 10th Gen was the one with Oil Dilution problems.
One problem at the Honda Factory/Assembly Plants is the use of defective body parts, They do not care if there are ridges, uneven cuts, scratches, marks, bad paint job, and large Gaps when put together. We will just refer that Honda makes LEGO SNAP ONS. Yes! Honda's quality and workmanship have declined in the last 10 to 20 years. It's all about going Green, or less Emissions, and adding lots of Technology gadgets or semi-functional Safety Features that will either distract you, intimidate, aggravate, lot of lights flashing, and become annoying while driving. For all this crap, less quality and pay a fortunate for the Technology. One Recall been for Electronic Steering, Honda Tech looked at it, and took a Photo and sent to Honda Company. Total time in labor between 5 to 10 minutes but the Honda Dealership needed the car for the whole day as the scheduled appointment was 7:30am ... I was not a walk-in. Civic was ready to be picked up at 4pm as I was called at 3:50pm. It would have been simpler to have waited there providing they do the work at the appointed scheduled time. What's 10 minutes vs the inconvenience that my wife had no car all day.
I have a 2023 Camry XSE V6, I have consistantly complained about Very Poor MPG. It gets average of 16.99MPG. Window sticker 22 City/ 26 avg,/32 Highway and I am 9 MPG below average.
Toyota trying to convince me that the tires are causing low MPG. I'm not biting. It's an engine problem or computer that not calibrated for the injectors or fuel-air mixture. Toyota has refused to do anything about it.
I would accept 2 to 3 below but 9 is way too high. Toyota is just as bad as Honda. Bottom line is about profit and don't care about the person who purchased one of their vehicles.
Supposedly, Recalls will be occurring more often in the near future.
I don't understand the camry fuel consumption issue. We have 2019 Camry that gets consistently 35 to 50 mpg depending on city vs highway driving. It has only the 4 cylinder and is a little older so that is different but none the less I don't understand why there is such a huge difference in mileage.
@@brookmeyers6621 I have the 3.5L V6 2GR-FKS engine // 2023 Camry XSE V6. It's not from using Ethanol Gasoline ... Toyota and practically all Auto Manufacturers now design, engineered and made it so Ethanol Gas has very little effect on Car Engines. Cars built before year 2006 let say probably more vulnerable and don't get decent MPG with Ethanol mix. Tires may make some difference but it is usually due to improper PSI/ inflation. However, Snow-Winter tires will negatively impact your MPG up to 4 or 5 MPGs. Driver's bad habits ,, being heavy footed, a Speedster driving 10 to 50 MPH over the posted speed limit or always driving 75 - 80 -90 MPH on the Highway, fluctuation in Acceleration as can't hold a steady Speed. The Terrain that has many hills and mountains will consume more fuel to climb that huge Incline. Sorry, but auto manufacturers really don't care as they are only after your money as with any Company is it all about Capitalization or MONEY $$$$$ (Greed) profiting from anyone and everyone. Lack of Quality Control and Customer Service as it is just pure ignorance of the company. Happy to get your money, want you to buy more sooner than later, take your chances as we laugh at you while taking your money to the bank. The world is full of nuts. Watch the movie "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World". or enjoy the day with Monty Pythons "Life of Brian". We do not live in a perfect world, as my father had said, "the world is a ball of shit and everyday got to take a bite of it". Also, "You can please some of the people some of the time but you cannot please all the people all of the time." Therefore, be happy and have a fantastic life ... as no one can solve all the worlds problems. Do the best you can and smile.
Post 2018 build quality across the board has been bad.
Post 2019 as my Si was great but I sold and switched to Miata
This is why Honda has dumped the turbo engines and went Hybrid power-train for 2025 and onward.
@@timothylee2772I enjoy the hybrid idea, I think it’s a mix of power with fuel economy while still being reliable. Sure, the batteries will go out, but that’ll take like 10-20 years (hopefully), and as more hybrids are produced, it won’t cost too much to replace them
@@jhall_79In the long run, do you think it's worth buying a hybrid car? Sure you save money on gas every year, but the battery last 10 years max depending how much you drive and how well you maintain your car. Some people have to replace them after just 5 years.
@@timothylee2772 Hybrids on Honda with those ecvt sucks. No proper response or acceleration and feels like an old Prius
I bought a new 1991 Honda Accord EX Coupe with a five speed manual transmission. I drove that car for 30 years until I sold it in April of 2021. Never had a clutch replacement, never had a fuel pump replacement or problem, never did anything to the engine other than regular scheduled maintenance. The car had 300,000 miles when I sold it, The best car I've ever owned and was fun to drive.
My last Honda was a ‘17 Civic EX hatchback. Absolute garbage, no dealer support. Won’t be back.
That last good model was the 2013 without a CVT transmission.
They are still; better than a lot of cars, Chevy malibus are hitting the graveyard at 8 years old. Almost every Nissan CVT fails.
Honda is not what it was at it's peak though.
A CVT gearbox is something I would never buy and run away from in any car.
Exactly. But that's not an issue exclusive to Honda, as the video implies. Any car brand/model using CVTs should be avoided.
@@MrGrumpy1 The video never implied it was just Honda. It very clearly states Honda has one of the better CVTs.
@@Ichibuns That may be, but the title clearly states it is Honda's reliability that is now the worst. I wouldn't buy a CVT from any brand.
Then don’t buy one. Fool
No, they're not reliable, my wife's hrv has gotten 4 cvt transmissions, and all this while honda did all the maintenance up until they canceled my maintenance package, like I warned them, I payed for my maintenance package, you (the dealer) the dealer can't just cancel my maintenance package, now charge my oil, they refused and called the cops on me, i called the dealer manager, cops were like you're trespassing, manager shows up,tells the fuzz, you're excused, looked at the service manager and fired him on the spot, told me come into my office, gave a check $13,500 check for my maintenance package, apologized and I left, parked that POS and bought a new car for my wife, ofcourse not CVT POS, gave it to my mother inlaw and told her goodluck, wifey, George you cant, me: hey she wanted it, I'm glad that POS is outta here!!!
My 2007 Nissan Altima 2.5 with 160,000 miles and questionable transmission has less severe problems than my wife 2021 Honda CRV!
Honda quality is going down to toilet!
I have bought one brand new car. I bought a 2006 civic. This car was designed to be in the junkyard between 150,000 and 200,000. The 5 speed bearings roared at 160,000. The motor went bad at 180,000. I will never own a Honda again.
I think I was driving behind you getting a free oil bath from your tin can engine !
Wow, my ford has 183k and still runs like a clock
My honda crv from 1999 has over 200k miles and still giong strong; while my father's 2016 pilot with 60k miles left him stranded and he had to borrow a family member's 2007 chevy suburban to complete the trip. Honda used to be amazing and they really need to get it back on track
Had to replace my CVT honda accord after 77k. $3800.00. If only I had known, I would have never purchased that car.
If you replaced CVT fluid at 30k, you would still have it running lol
Audi went to the CVT excursion decades ago and they stopped and they never looked back. Today, Audi/VW is the only manufacturer that comes with DSG. And the Audi version has a two-compartment set up. The wet clutch uses ATF and the gearbox uses MTF. Super reliable and fun to drive.
I knew someone with a honda accord 2017 and it started eating oil at 45k miles. Think they got a 2019 altima after that and it has 100 something thousand miles. They do change the fluid every 30k miles drain and fill.
I got a 2021 sentra and 2024 frontier. Both pretty nice, sentra has 50k miles rn no problems.
They improved, just recently got a 2023 pathfinder. Very smooth suv and love the VQ.
It’s not only worse and also twice more expensive
I'm old ;) in 2003 I wanted to buy the CTR EP3 here it was around 35-38'000USD equivalent...today it's 61'000USD equivalent LOL it has 100hp more yes but no awd unlike it's last competitor the focus rs mk3 who also had 45hp more and was 15 to 7k less depending on version
honda has become just another shitty ford
The issue is that these cars are larger and heavier. The engines are smaller and have more power, higher revs, and more heat. And its a complicated power train.
Make these cars weigh 2200 lbs with 2.4L naturally aspirated engines and you'll have a solid car. Look at what makes a Camry great...
Honda reliability now is just a stereotype
If you buy a 20 year old Honda or Toyota with a manual, will be reliable
@@StevenJeffrey-h2g key word "now"
@@Nazi-yr7rl I have heard bad things about those turbo engines, yeah sad bro
would rather have a 1990 NSX than a brand new Civic Type R
I bought a pre-owned Honda Civic 2016 LX last year. It was Honda certified and bought from Honda dealership. With 100k miles. Since last one year the AC has kept breaking down again and again. Dealership has replaced Compressor, two condensers and lots of AC pipes. Still regret my decision buying it.
It’s a known problem for the 10th gen civic. Mine went out the second summer I owned a brand new SI. The cool thing is that the car depreciated only $5,000 when I traded it in 5 years after purchase.
100K miles sounds suspicious. I thought nothing well below 50K miles can be sold as "Certified" by Honda, or any other OEM Dealer.
Bought my 2018 Civic Hatchback, LX, 6 speed, 1.5 turbo, brand new in Nov of 2017. Just turned over 100k miles last week, no major problems except A/C work under warranty a few years back. The engine runs great, I get 40 mpg on the highway, and some You Tube guy has 700,000 miles of his 2016 Civic 1.5 turbo, so it's not too bad. I did get a recall notice on my fuel pump but haven't had any problems yet so haven't replaced fuel pump. I think it's a great car ..... and tons of room too! And I also have a Honda dirt bike, a Honda lawnmower, and a Honda generator - all work great. Cheers!
My 2019 FK7 1.5T is bad in terms of fuel consumption.
It is 12.5L per km, and it should be around 8. No idea what is going on.
I'm not a fan of modern vehicles. I'll keep my 2017 370Z until the wheels fall off. It's made the way a car should be: naturally aspirated, manual, and port injected. It may not be fast by modern standards, but you will never have to worry about engine or transmission reliability.
All CVT transmissions SUCK, SUCK, SUCK! People: don’t buy any car with a CVT & the manufacturers will stop making them. What’s the next problem we can solve? lol 😂
Exactly let CVTs rot in the junkyard
My 2015 Honda jazz hybrid (fit) still doesn't have issue with the CVT it has around 190,000 KM. But I do replace the CVT fluid every 3 years and no more than 40K KM. Newer hybrid models all have e-CVT which has nothing to do with regular CVT and it is much more reliable than regular automatic transmission - because it is much simpler design.
@@eliadbu yeah my bet is the quality control has been nose diving coz japan employ lots of unskilled labor for their factories
Bought a Honda CRV in 2018 and I started having issues from the day I took delivery. An absolute disappointment altogether and last year, I started having axle problems. Even my Nissan started out performing my Honda. Can you beat that?
2017 CRV here. Just replaced the battery. That's the entirety of the things that have broken on it.
My 2009 Accord lx has given quite a few surprises from the 80k miles mark. Things are wearing out that even Fords would not do before 100k miles.
Just serviced my wife's Civic with K20z3 engine @310.000kms, replaced rocker cover gasket, the engine is nice and clean inside.
How? I tell you how.... Being cheap 😂 Massive profits. I have a 2020 honda and not even the door panels align properly 🎉
I have Honda Accord 2014. Had starter problem, misfire cylinder 3 problems, head gasket problem, and cylinder head problem... Now I'm afraid of seeing a transmission problem
Its your oarticular 2014 Accord that is bad igiess. Or you dont treat it well lol. i have a 2014, My wife has a 2013. No issues for over 80k miles on both
@ possibly. I basically always took it to the dealership for repairs on schedule. I usually don’t drive aggressively but I do sometimes. I’ve heard my model was known for having starter problems. I can’t rule out dealerships are messing up my car on purpose either…
Honda reliability didn’t go from First to worst!!! First of all Honda was never first Toyota is first and always will be first second Honda is still better than most car brands.! Honda is still Top five cars in reliability!!! Toyota, Subaru, Mazda, And Honda.
Actuially a honda with a manual transmission is more reliable than a toyota. Only reason honda is behind toyota in that department is due to they way they build their automatic transmissions they are unlike any regular automatic out there. And they absolutely require you to service them which people never do and they fail.
You can see the future? Cool, give me some lottery numbers and which cheap car is going to skyrocket in price.
Never thought I’d see ‘Reliable’ and ‘Subaru’ in the same sentence
@@rcmen2637you just state that Toyota is still more reliable….manuel or auto don’t matter bc Toyota still more reliable overall.
@RDawgs compared to a honda with a manual transmission no they aren't.
We're on our 4th Odyssey and also had an Acura MDX. We had a transmission failure on our 2001 Odyssey at 99,000 miles...Honda covered it. And we had a VCM issue with our 2009 Odyssey...requiring new piston rings...and Honda covered that as well. Had major oil consumption issues as a symptoms. The MDX was durable but had issues with interior plastic bits breaking. We currently have a 2017 Odyssey and it's been great so far...just completed the 105K mile service including the timing belt. I am more on the conservative side with servicing and try to change the transmission fluid more frequently and change the oil at 4 to 5K miles versus following the maintenance minder.
I did have one service writer try to talk me out of an oil change because the maintenance minder said it wasn't time...I responded, the oil change is cheaper than a new engine and I'm paying for it. I think they footnoted our service profile that I go by mileage and not by service minder since then.
1991 Civic owner here. Never gonna sell my car. Modern Honda has totally LOST its way. SMH
I'd love to buy an old 90's Honda, those were the best years, but they are impossible to find in Canada, all full of rust.
I have a 2018 Civic EX-T with the 1.5T (manual 6 sp.) and am loving it. And I beat the so-called oil dilution issue! I drove all winter on the same oil change this past winter.
When I submitted an oil sample to Blackstone Labs this past spring, they found very low gas in my oil! I found that if I drive right off in the winter without a warm up, the car warms up much faster than just sitting. I do drive it gently until it is warmed up to take it easy on the turbo. But the engine warms up so much faster the gas does not get past the rings much. I also drive at higher RPMs in the winter and only drive at 5th gear at highway speeds. It still gets about as good gas mileage in 5th gear. I only use 6th gear in the summer. I found that higher RPMS and therefore hotter combustion and overall higher top end temperatures also keeps gas burning up before it gets through the rings down into my crankcase. And the head gasket issue doesn't happen much in the lighter weight Civic nearly as much as in the heavier CRVs and Accord. My Blackstone sample was actually below the average for all vehicles.
Very well presented. Respecting the unique requirements of turbo engines with respect to warmup, cool down and rpm/torque curve may alleviate many common issues. Consider top tier oils such as Penzoil Ultra Platinum, my favorite, or Castrol Edge.
This is all internet/youtuber exaggeration and hyperbole. All manufacturers have had issues and recalls for a long time. There are always a few lemons, but these youtuber take some anecdotal evidence and rumors and overblow everything. My parents have had two Hondas with cvts for years and had zero issues. I had an 2014 Accord with the cvt for over 150k miles also no issues. My brother has a 2021 civic 1.5t touring with a ton of miles with no oil dilution or any other supposed typical engine problem. People watch these types of videos and parrot all this as if they themselves experienced these issues, even without having said Honda products with the supposed widespread issues.
I had a 2016 2.0 manual civic and it was also a piece of shit fwiw
Yet Honda and Toyota fanboys like to parrot the same bs that every other manufacturer is unreliable even though most of them have improved including BMW ffs lol
I get that you guys like to live in the past but it is no longer the 90s anymore lmao
That's your opinion as a FANBOY. What's not an opinion, are FACTS. Don't downplay facts when the people who suffered from these common failures were left to pay the repair because Honda / Acura corporate keep playing the "I've never heard of this issue" game.
You can't say this video is wrong just because your experiences don't match. The facts this video is based on don't affect every Honda. ie. your mileage may vary
We had an 18 Civic SI that developed a SEVERE dilution problem at 77k (I check my oil frequently). It was my DD, never abused, never modified, early oil and filter changes ever 5k, and Honda America said they wouldn't help us unless it was stalling or throwing engine codes. That sucked because I really like the SI otherwise....
Lmao just saw a 2015ish civic getting hauled on a flatbed today with a smoking engine bay and here's this video lol the irony
You forgot the LED headlights that fail after the warranty is up. The Earth Dream engines that fill the crankcase up with unburned fuel and Honda claims isn't something that damages engine internals (it does). Honda Civics with engine blocks that cracked. Transmissions that are garbage. Ridgelines that cook the torque converter. etc
I love my Mazda
This is my second Skyactiv Mazda
I’ve had zero issues and I beat on my cars. Just gotta keep up with maintenance. Great cars and easy to work on.
The CX-90/70 are brand new so I’d wait on those but they will also be very reliable cars.
Mazda didn’t spare any expense on the drivetrains. They are pretty simple too.
Overall I have no problem trusting Mazda
I find it hilarious that my first car which was a hyundai elantra outlasted my moms CRV equipped with the K24Z3 engine known for failing piston rings. My elantra which was a HYUNDAI burnt zero oil. Hers? Every second fill up you had to add oil and it started knocking bad.
GDI ruined Kia/Hyundai, as well as the Kia boys showing everyone how to steal them.
@@lonniebeal6032 My genesis coupe has yet to be stolen and never heard any kia boy stealing them. Also this whole GDI thing needs to stop a simple catch can or yearly spark plug replacements will prevent this. I know a owner with a GDI G6DA 3.8 V6 genesis coupe with 297,000kms on the original engine. Take what the internet says with a grain of salt…
@@MJT-DA The 3.8L engines are top notch reliable. They went downhill around 2011 with the introduction of GDI engines
Wasn’t aware. Pretty surprising. I’ve had 3, and sold all 3 after one to many problems with all of them but never thought of them as bad cars, but I didn’t like working on them - everything was too tightly cramped.
I’ve owned Hondas for 30 years and I call bullshit to this video.
My first encounter with Honda quality was with an Acura TL. The wind shield wipers broke and the rear view mirror leaked an acid that burned a hole in the console. Both at about 40,000 miles, but out of warranty. The transmission had to be replaced at 60,000 miles. My second encounter with Honda was my Pilot Touring AWD. All the trouble lights activated at 50,000 miles. After researching, I coincidentally found out that that the rear differential fluid was supposed to be changed at 5,000 miles. Also, the transmission fluid must be changed every 30,000 miles. The parts alone for these fluid changes is over $400 and labor another $400. So, I do it myself. Honda does not specify what maintenance is required; they want to force you to rely on the dealer for all maintenance (X oil change).
The auto stop-start system would leave us stranded at an intersection. So, we have to disable it every time the car is started.
Back to the check engine, check LKAS, check ABS, etc. lights all coming on was because of fuel system failure, which had to be replaced. I also had to clean the ground bar in the main fuses, or the lights would all activate. The auto lock system failed and had to be replaced. We had a cracked windshield that could only be replaced with an OEM Honda windshield and it took over an hour of driving to recalibrate the LKAS system ($1,500).
Luckily my other cars are Toyotas (Japan) and a Mercedes (Germany). All these cars are totally reliable compared to the Honda and Acura. The Acura, I have to say, was a pleasure to drive and had less problems than the Pilot(made in Alabama).
Thanks for the knowledge.
That sounds strange. Maybe you purchased the vehicle used from someone who didn't take care of it. I was able to find the service schedule for newer acuras and it says that differential fluid should be replaced at 15k miles (not 5k). Its normally recommended that cvt transmission fluid is replaced at 30k miles - this is common knowledge. Otherwise, Acura recommends a change in transmission fluid at 120k miles.
@@MrSupernova111 The Pilot was new. When I had problems with my pilot I researched and found that I should be changing fluids. The recommendation was 30,000 miles. I was at 50,000 miles when I changed all the driveline fluids myself and the transmission and diff fluids were black. I had to replace the transmission in the Acura at 60,000 miles, so I believe that transmission needed to be changed at 30,000 miles too. Research on the Acura found lots of complaints about the transmission, so I changed the new transmission fluid and filter at 30k. Glad I did. I haven’t had this many problems with cars since my old Fords from the 70’s. Sold the Acura, which was a great deal for the guy having fixed everything. Still have the Pilot. It rides good and am very familiar with all the care needed.
@@Norm100ful . Sounds like a change of transmission fluid at 30k is a safe bet in general. I'm surprised the diff fluid needs to be changed so soon. Good to know. Cheers!
the older ones did have some rust issues but reliability was their strong suit
I love Honda, even when they don't make the best looking cars. I believe in their reliability and fun driving experience, have they forgotten their heritage and reputation? I'm shocked to see that Honda would allow poor products to leave their assembly lines. Honda what are you doing?
trust me, the thumbnail is actually also better than New Hondas, and I was a big Honda hardcore following guy.
2019 FK8, no issues with my manual gearbox. By comparison, our 2018 K24 powered Odyssey (JDM/Asia/Oceania spec, not US) with CVT lasted to 100K kms and then Honda replaced the entire CVT with a new one. The NA K24 as you mentioned is an amazing motor, especially pulling an 1800kg Odyssey around. But the CVT experience in the Japan built Odyssey, along with the hit and miss build quality from the Swindon UK FK8 (rattles etc) has led us to replace the Odyssey with German engineering.
While Toyota is the hybrid king, Honda has spread itself thin with way too many models and drive trains that nobody asked for. Still, if you’d like to see motor nirvana, just pop open a civic hood and admire! Thanks for sharing.
Don't they have mitsubishi turbo's?!
@@IdealCarsOfficial BRO spreading misinformation everywhere, Donut media way better!
They are trying to compete more with Toyota and Toyota's huge line up of products. Toyota's don't change much, they are winning slow and steady.
Honda still makes reliable engines. It’s just the CVTs that suck. I have a 08 Honda City. Engine still runs great. It has about 145K milage on it. But man the CVT leaves a lot to be desired. Been dealing with this shuddering issue for a long time despite keeping up with the maintenance schedule. God i wish manufacturers go back to using the good old automatic transmission
If you want good old automatic transmission then get a Mazda.
Sadly, you kind of need a transmission to make a car useful... unless you just like sitting in your driveway revving your engine (not a bad plan). I really wish they would stick to manual transmissions. I would never buy automatic Honda, but a manual Honda is definitely something worth while... if the price is right.
Blame the government as they set the standard for fuel efficiency.
Vote red this election.
I bought my 2020 Accord 2.0T last year w/41K on the clock and have changed the oil every 3K. Found out a chick owned it previously so almost certain it wasn't broken in properly
The best thing for the planed is to incetive keep older cars in optimal condition, with reliable 4 cyl engines and lower speed limits again, i dont get how some street cars reach 400hp , there is no need for that in the streets
More like 700-1025 hp.
I have a 10th gen SI I know of the gas issue. I smell it too and that’s why I change it at 3k miles. Tuned and modded. It’s a fun car
I love the 8th gen Civic SI. High redline 2 liter NA engines are definitely more reliable than 1.5 turbos and are a lot of fun. They also sound better than many V6 engines.
I have a 2018 Honda Accord (1.5T)with 61,560 miles. This week the dealer recommended all new fuel injectors at a cost of $2000 to remedy a slightly rough idle and a power decrease which has only happened once and lasted maybe 5-8 seconds. I turned off my engine and restarted it in about 30 seconds and the engine was fine and with full power. I expected better reliability from my 2018 Accord. Now I am fearful of buying another Honda since the reliability ratings have dropped to nearly dead last. My previous three Hondas (2006 Civic, 2010 Civic and 2014 Accord) were reliable.
I had a 22 civic si loved it but passenger window was going down slow and noticed it so I waited for my first oil change to bring it up also noticed the logo moving inward and all they did was spray silicone and then sent the car out with the trim damaged noticed it brought it in the next day and they had to order $500 worth of parts to replace it. Then at 13k I was parked up a hill and when I turned the car off the steering wheel turned with my hands on it with a good amount of force and my steering wheel was off ever since. A few months down the road and guess what the steering starts getting sticky 😂. The funny part is was watching a video on a 22 civic si and the steering getting stuck and it happened to me when I was turning I ended up trading it in unfortunately
I have a 2020 and heard the new model was coming out in 2022, so I bought the current model thinking they got all the bug out of it. Honda has gone down in quality. The Toyota is the best now overall. My next car is the base model Corolla. Its about $4k cheaper than the new Civic base model.
I just got a recall for the steering. 11th gen 2024. Yours is probably on the list too. Get it fixed
Mazda is a better honda . No pesky cvts , great looks and dynamic performance.
I have a 2006 Accord V6 Coupe that I drove and then gave to my son. Only car I ever owned that did not require a single repair outside of regular maintenance. That being said, I would not buy a 2018-2012 turbo Honda. Too many recalls. Too much risk that previous owners didn't properly care for their turbos.
Concur. I've driven since 1977, owned 10 or 12 cars and trucks, and seen the cycles where the automakers dote on turbo engines every 10 years or so. They advertise their "new" turbo engines, claim some performance improvements and offer the car at a premium. Doesn't take longer than two model years until the engines start blowing up en masse' from owners abusing it or failing to maintain it. Turbo engine quietly disappears in favor of old normally aspirated engines for several years until the last turbo engine debacle is forgotten, then the whole thing repeats again.
Had a Pilot 2017 wonderful vehicle. At 58000 the Trans started slipping into 4th. Changed the fluid, and after 30 miles it failed no longer shifted and failed completely. Fortunately, I had the platinum extended Warrenty. I received a Brand new loaner and a Brand new transmission, and I Paid $100.00 deductible for everything. It reminded me of a work story.
I was service manager for plotter mfg and a newly released product component failed. In a meeting with the GM, he asked what we will do. I set up a rapid exchange program and assured the GM,
"It doesn't matter if it fails. What matters is,
How Fast You Fix it!!!"
Just avoid turbo & CVT. Wait a minute! Is Honda discontinuing the port-injected 2.0NA engine & even its manual transmission option?
Am I the lucky one? Had my CRV for 5 years, not a single problem with either the Turbo engine or CVT. Runs like a top and has been a great car. I'm so glad I bought it.
@@NatureBoy12100 I'm still driving my 1990 manual Mazda Protege with naturally aspirated 1.8 DOHC today -- brimming with “steering feel” from the hydraulic power assist, while enjoying the excitement of its standard “wild oversteer” set up.
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That's what happens when you have a tiny 1.6 engine trying to pull a car. No engine should be smaller than a 2.0 imo. Trying to make up in power with turbos on tiny engines is a recipe for disaster imo.
Honda doesn't make a 1.6T
Currently driving a 2009 Honda Fit sport with over 370,000 Mi on it. My wife is currently driving a 2014 Honda Fit base with something like 200k miles, with a CVT. Both vehicles have never had any major repairs. Only general maintenance.
But a car that's perfectly fine one day, can give up the ghost the next
Thats what they get treating there workers like shit! I worked at the plant in Alabama and was terminated after my surgery. Also, their attendance policy is ass. You have no family time at all and will get a point if you get sick on the floor and have to leave work. We as workers need more labor laws and that plant definitely needs a union
This is AMerica's problem. and pretty much all of the world
@@potatopack true they need to have laws to protect us workers
My son bought a 2018 Honda Accord and it's been in the shop more than it's been on the road
2018 were pretty reliable, must have been abused
@@genichiroashina6372 it only had 60,000 Mi on it but he didn't get it from a dealer he got it from a private seller who mostly just sells Hondas he said he got it at auction in Arkansas it was supposed to been a one-owner female driver the motor look very clean look new the interior look new I don't know what they did to it LOL but he's headed for 4 months now and hasn't even been able to drive a thousand miles on it without it going to the shop first it was coil pack then fuel injectors didn't need a tune-up spark plugs now they saying it's probably the fuel pump but the fuel injectors they ordered was supposed to be new but they look rusted so the mechanic only felt safe for using one of them he put that in where it said on the computer that was the bad one he drove up to Franklin because that's the closest dealership to Columbia Tennessee for Honda kind of seem like they've been getting over on him every time he comes they want $235 diagnostic fee even if they would have just done one the week before' they told him they think he had a bad head gasket but they wasn't sure but it would be $4,000 for them to check and put one on if it needs it he went back to independent foreign car mechanic in Columbia GT automotive day Runner scope down in the engine and everything told them they couldn't see anything that was so it had a crack head or a head gasket but it was a lot of fuel in the chamber they think the old fuel injectors have started leaking Gahanna dealership in Murfreesboro told him to bring it up there and they would do a diagnostic and if it was the fuel pump they would not charge him the fee and have it expedited the dealership in Franklin had called a few weeks back and said they had one he told them he could not make it up there to the next day they told him he had 30 days to do it the next day he called them they had put it on someone else's car told him they would not be able to get another one into this fall, regardless he said if the guy GT automotive gets his fixed he's trading it in on something the same week he's fed up with it
@@genichiroashina6372 . Yep. I think a lot of these people complaining bought an abused and neglected pre-owned vehicle and are being hit with the resulting repairs. Another person is complaining about a laundry list of issues well beyond normal wear and tear issues. Hard to take some of this people seriously.
@@MrSupernova111 exactly, I agree that today's honda have become boring and drab looking compared to their old civic models.
But to rate honda as unreliable is so wrong.
If these cars are not reliable no more. I can't even fathom a bmw or audi,Volvo or range rover.
Thank you sir, excellent. I'm hoping the 2.0T is much better since it can handle the power? Right now I have a 2017 Accord Sport Special Edition with the 2.4 but it has a CVT.
I own 3 honda's from this era - 2016 accord, 2019 Oddessy and 2023 CRV. None of which have had any issues at all. 2 of them are over 100k miles and aside from a few recalls (Which have been quick and easy) I have never had a check engine or a breakdown ever. In fact, I'd argue the 2016 accord's cvt has been nothing but bullet prof. Hell, it survived 2 teenagers. It shocks me too see everyone having all these issues
Count yourself LUCKY.
This is all internet/youtuber exaggeration and hyperbole. All manufacturers have had issues and recalls for a long time. There are always a few lemons, but these youtuber take some anecdotal evidence and rumors and overblow everything. My parents have had two Hondas with cvts for years and had zero issues. I had an 2014 Accord with the cvt for over 150k miles also no issues. My brother has a 2021 civic 1.5t touring with a ton of miles with no oil dilution or any other supposed typical engine problem. People watch these types of videos and parrot all this as if they themselves experienced these issues, even without having said Honda products with the supposed widespread issues.
People like to lump all traditional CVTs as unreliable just because of Nissan.
They’ve been using CVTs since the 9th generation Civic with no major issues.
I have a 2016 Civic with 110k miles on it but I did have the air conditioning failure which they replaced under the extended warranty. The other issue I have with mine is peeling paint, not the clear coat but the whole thing is peeling near the rear window.
They’re likely not maintaining their cars
I also have a 16 Accord but a Touring V6. The only issue I’ve experienced is with the CarPlay, which freezes from time to time. Not lost on me is that this generation was never developed with CarPlay in mind.
Aside from that, it’s been a great car and now used by my own teenager.
We all know the most reliable are toyota, I wouldn't call a honda the top 1 reliable car at all but the toyota is the top 1 reliable
Honda used to be #1 most-reliable in the 1980s by Consumer Reports. Toyota was #3.
at the time honda was more focused on reliability and efficiency. but today’s demand is for convenience and fun.
heres the result for now.
Bought a 2017 Civic Sport+ in 2019, I didn't have any problems in 5 years, love the car.
Some friends did, with the fuel pump for example, but in general they are also in love with the car.
Every other person who is making noise about another car bran will not mention their fuel pumps going bad haha. I Love Hondas!
Government : 1 Million Regulations and Laws
Honda : I fucking give up. If I can’t make S2000s and Type Rs / TYPE S cars I quit.
I had a 90 civic with the garbage automatic transmission. It was my pizza delivery car. At one point I lost reverse so whenever I pulled into a driveway I made sure it was a hill so I could just coast back down in neutral. That 1.5 liter engine was gutless but was the least of my concerns.
They were made in Japan until 1991.
For the people with issues on 1.5 l turbo engine, and cvt trans honda. Dont drive yours car like a race car, change oils 3 k miles, keep all the maintenance up today, and you will be fine.
3k mile oil change is utterly ridiculous
That's a lot of money wasted on purely oil changes lmao. Every 5k is fine like everyone says. I guess you could change it every 3k, but there's probably zero difference from changing it every 5k.
There is a Honda Accord 1.5t , cvt transmission with 300k miles on it, not sure how he got that high mileage, but Honda is really good at making car, but if you want yours car last longer, I would say u have to change yours engine oil 3 to 5 k miles, and cvt transmission 10k to 15 k miles.
@@xgen2.0t84 3k is still a waste of money. Every 5k works. Unless you got money to burn, I don't.
@@GTFour No, it makes engines last. Even some modern engines.
Civic type R thumbnail wasn’t in the video because the Type R is pretty solid.
I hear people who don't do their research snub their nose at Hyundais, saying they all blow up and that Honda is soooo good, bc of their ethos. I bought a new Hyundai Elantra N in 2023 for the price of a Civic SI after learning how good the car is and seeing how much better Hyundai has gotten over the last 5 years. Honda got fat and lazy and Hyundai hit a home run with the N brand and the Elantra models but people who don't think for themselves have not heard that enough from the people they get their opinions from yet. That means stealerships mark-up Hondas and Hyundais sell for MSRP and I am so glad, otherwise I might own a Civic SI and be getting gapped by Golf GTI and Dodge chargers instead of gapping them in my 320 whp tuned CN7. Why would Honda mess up the MT gearbox that they are famous for? They were great! Have fun with the CVT ATV-type transmission. The CN7 comes with an amazing DCT or the standard 6-speed manual that I bought! BTW, the turbo engine can last if maintained and cared for. The DI gets dirty, but water-methanol injection done right cools intakes and acts as a detergent for the engine and injectors. Turbos get starved for oil or bake when people just park and turn them off without letting them cool and cycle oil for a minute or two. I let my CN7 cool until the oil temp is under 200 degrees, then turn it off.
Hyunday is crap, thats why is cheap
2008 2.2L CR-V diesel , factory withour DPF manual, right now at 190.000 miles. Still works like a charm, averages about 37MPG . We change oil every 5000 miles, with full synthetic Mobil 1 0w30. I have seen some newer models having issues, so i plan to keep this one as long as it works.