A beautiful girl invites a boy into her room where she has candles lit against policy. Then, she tells him about the struggles she's having with her long-distance relationship, but rejects his take as a personal attack. Reminds me of college.
@NormAppleton I get the feeling that she thinks Koss was her *only* viable choice (not to mention getting her mother's job back from the arranged marriage). Plus, Trip didn't want to be the cause to be a homewrecker.
A beautiful girl meets a guy while stopped at a red light. Cat calls him and they exchange numbers right there. Later that night she invites him to her place & as soon as he gets there she hops in the shower. Comes back the living room in nothing but a towel so he makes his move. She gets offended and makes him leave. Then she called me to complain that he "tried her" I'm like if you invited me over then hoped in the shower and come at me half naked I'd be expecting some kind of action too.
"Why the hell'd you ask me here?" "I was hoping you would ask me to marry you. I would have accepted. Then you and Kass could fight to the death over me and I would become the willing slave of the winner."
That would be interesting alright. Like seeing Tulsi Gabbard on the Laura Ingraham show, that was also fascinating to watch. I'm not trying to bring politics into it, just saying, two women talking together that you would never in million years expect to meet in a friendly venue.
T'Pol was fishing for Him to say he wished she would stay on Enterprise. She wanted to know if there was even a slim chance Trip cared for her and would advise her to cancel everything and stay. Trip, being a literal minded male, answered what he was asked. (Not what she wanted to hear.)
So male is dense for not picking up on that "fishing", yet she is NOT dense for not picking up on his way of saying it, by suggesting it she should stay because of subconscious, and that she has a choice. Women are infuriating in every race.
@@ckmoore101 nobody wants to be rejected, or the first one to declare themselves in for the long haul. This is standard operational romantic subplot of missed opportunity, for both sexes. He is free; she is not. Will he fight for her?
This was early in season One; Trip and T'Pol didn't even like each other much, let alone have romantic feelings between them. Nobody on the ship trusted T'Pol, thinking she was there as a spy. This scene happened because Trip had intercepted what he thought was a coded, secret message to T'Pol from the Vulcan High Command. He decoded it at Archer's orders, then found out it was about a personal matter. He admitted it to her, and so she knew that he was the only one on board who knew about her upcoming wedding. Thus, she spoke to him about it (hence the 'you weren't my first choice' bit; she would have had to admit to whoever she spoke to that she was engaged, and Trip already knew about it).
@@MrSprigg I haven’t watched this episode but I like your comment because it gave the scene's context but, what did she want Trip to say? It seems she’s giving contradictory signals.
I'm gonna say what everyone is thinking, but not saying. Vulcans are on the spectrum. They are an entire race of people that are functionally autistic.
@@pflaffik no dout she was supposed to be 100% vulcan unlike spock...she should have been almost robotic....they had her go full native on the enterprise way to fast
T'Pol: The day I marry you Commander is the day we are marooned in an expansive region of space filled with hazardous anomalies. Trip: And the day I marry you will be the day I fill the cargo bay with sand for our honeymoon. Never gonna happen. T'Pol: Highly unlikely.
Lorian-in "E2"-did say that his mother and father were contentious toward each other, but did that really happen? T'Pol asked why if it didn't, why could she remember meeting herself?
Trip: "Why the hell'd you ask me here?" T'Pol thinking: Because I was hoping you would ask me to stay because you feel about me the same way I feel about you.
I remember hearing about Jolene’s resistance to wearing “the wig”. She is so beautiful that you could shave her head and she would still be stunning. In hind sight, that awful hairdo probably helped her character be taken more seriously. Vulcans don’t seem to be the type that would spend much time on vanity.
I want that so badly. Vulcans deserve the spotlight, and the human being the fish out of water for once would be awesome. Except the nu Trek writers can't write Vulcans for shit.
@@decom707it's not usually a writer's fault, most shows are design by committee You should see half the scripts written for TNG and VOY that were thrown out because higher-ups had other plans, leading to other scripts put together last minute
A Doctor on a Medical ship? Or a Forensics Specialist on a Vulcan CSI Series? And A full Klingon Version? I have been waiting for these. Male and Female stories for all.
Trip really grows on me. I like his accent. This is also areally good argument between two polar opposite people (who also like each other but won't admit it).
@@alexchen7729 Alternate timeline to our own that takes place in a future that at least one of those has gone away. I say one because kirk has stated that about there being only one god as well as not using money and yet made comments eluding to them being atheists and using money. Slavery is obviously gone.....until the EMH gets repurposed as mine workers but something tells me arranged marriage still exists but is easy to get out of.
@@sgtwhisker26 An interesting fact to add here is that in ancient biblical customs going back thousands of years, intercourse between two people was enough to label them both as married, by biblical law they would be bound to each other permanently after such a union and their vows would be in the Torah. No priest is needed, no ceremony is needed. Funny how the fictional Vulcan understanding of marriage is extremely similar to ancient and real biblical marriage.
The relationship between T’Pol and Trip was compelling and endearing. I also wish this show had received a better wrap-up than it did. Picard Season 3 was able to do this for TNG crew. Maybe one day soon we will read about ENT being brought back with a “Where are they now?” final season.
Her frankness is both astounding and revelatory: come on, Trip, listen deep and remember how the swordfish run deep in the sea far below the wind-blown waves. She is the most remarkable Vulcan in the Star Trek Worlds of Imagination.
“Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will still go around saying 'I'm a Vulcan. Everything I do is because of logic.'” ― C.G. Jung
I think really in this moment that on some level T'pol was hoping to see Trip disagree entirely with her dilemma and talk her out of it and maybe convey his feelings towards her.
@markjohnson7488 By watching the show and observing the characters' behavior. Or just listening to how they talk to and about each other. Trip and T'Pol's relationship has a very obvious progression from the pilot to the finale.
I loved the interactions between Trip & T'pol. The fact that they are both very stubborn throws a wrench into their possible romance. Both were fighting their feelings of attraction to each other. Note the way Trip wipes his lower lip with his thumb after they kiss. He's fighting it BIG TIME.
"It has to take precedence." Trip, she is all but reaching out to smack your face and finish that sentence with this: "It has to take precedence over my past and present with you, Trip." ----- Love takes many paths, sometimes rocky and uncertain.
There have been internet rumours around the last year or so suggesting that Enterprise might be resurrected for a fifth series, if so there are three things I want to see: 1) Bring Trip bak from the dead (Feasible as we didn't see his dead body). 2) Reunite Trip and T'Pol (Plus lots of hawt reunion sex). 3) Trip and T'Pol get formally married.
Tripp didn't really die. Books made by the writers (so half canon) stated that the holo program was made to show him die bc in reality he joined section 31 and participated in the Romulan War.
If Enterprise gets resurrected in current year, there are three things I want to see: 1) No. 2) Don't. 3) Please leave my favorite Star Trek alone. (In that order.)
@@nicholasmaude6906 In today's political climate? No, just no. New writers will poop all over the lore and turn the show into a political platform for a specific ideology. Star trek was always about morality, progress and the maturing of the human condition. But looking at "Picard" and "Discovery"... Those two shows are the opposite of star trek. I hope they never revive this series. Some things are better left in peace.
This was kinda early in the show. I think they were feeling eachother out. The writers may have been hinting at a future between these two at this point.
Les Moonves. Apparently, he didn't like "MFU" because it too was cancelled after 4 seasons; the time and day were changed too to mess up things for fans.
I'm kind of disappointing the writers did not have the engineer lay out the elements of her problem like a project on a work bench. Give possible solutions, and outcomes to each one.
This series is every bit as good as S.T.TOS just with better special effects and technology. I can see a seamless integration with Spock,Mccoy and Kirk meeting the crew in some type of temporal/ time travel episode. Something like S.T.DS9 and the Tribble episode.
Vulcans don't change, and we saw Spock as a child, so they do grow up, i call that change, his father married a human, that is not traditional, but in the timeline that was in the future.
Too bad they never got to do that fifth season where they were considering revealing that T'Pol was part Romulan. The potential stories particularly between these two would have been awesome.
I once read that Paramount eventually did regret not filming a fifth season. Paramount never did explain why. But a fifth season would have forced the filming of the Earth-Romulan War. As we know, the Hollywood studios responsible for all the Star Trek shows and movies have thus far been mysteriously very reluctant to depict the Earth-Romulan War in any fashion. Even Paramount dodged the Earth-Romulan War by invented the non-canonical fictional story of the Earth-Xindi War, which had never, never, never been mentioned anywhere in the canonical Star Trek universe. The stupid, Earth-Xindi War took up a valuable year, thus allowing Paramount to postpone the Earth-Romulan War. When it became unavoidable, Paramount simply cancelled the series, quoting insufficient viewership. To be fair, popular tv and cable shows have often been mysteriously cancelled, quoting insufficient viewership. Studios claim that they need a minimum X amount of viewership in order to demand the high commercial fees that companies and corporations pay for commercial advertising. Ostensibly, if a tv or cable show's viewership goes below a certain minimum, companies and corporations will either be reluctant to pay for their commercials, or demand a lower price. It's all about the Benjamins.
@nicholasmaude6906 Where is the "Paramount Network" now? They did get the boot. Just not in the "Hand them a box for their stuff, and escort them out of the building" kind of fired. In business bad decisions end up in no business anymore, just the name gets swallowed up by another business entity often.
After a couple of months into my first tour in South Korea guys I worked with said that I was starting to pick up Korean customs and habits. Some started calling me half-Korean. Well, unless I duty that night when I got off from work I showered and headed to the front gate. Until the next morning.
Fascinating: how much humans, in startrek universe, are trying to prove ,other species, (especially more advanced ones) that human way is the right way :D
The prime directive? The only reason they bring up how humans think differently is when dealing with inter-species conflict. But the irony is that these "species" were invented by the human imagination. So its really different sides of the human mind arguing with itself.
When this series was cancelled this confirmed my belief that Star Trek fans in general lack any appreciation of quality storytelling. Time has only validated that conviction. The New World series is challenging that view.
Why do I get the sense that T'pol is denying her feelings for Trip? It seems like she wants Trip to either stop the marriage and connect with her or reject her so she can go on with the marriage.
She is a Vulcan. Normally she shouldn’t have any feelings towards anyone but I guess living among humans for so long and -theoretically- being part Romulan makes T’pol somewhat susceptible to emotions. She is still conditioned to shield her behavior from any kind of emotion she may experience.
@@eceozuduru5148Well... she shouldnt have any emotions, the way humans shouldnt steal from others. In both cases they are but a theoretical ideal, Vulcans genetically as a species are even more emotional than ST humans, but surpresses those instincts with life-long training, meditation and just plain old denial. Dont have to be part romulan or take influence from humans for it to be so. The results of those surpression failures are visible at many points in the show, this being one of those occasions. Every Vulcan in ST Enterprise was pretty emotional, to be frank.
It looked to me like Trip did try to stop her from marrying koss. He was trying to be supportive. Maybe it fell short of what Tpol was looking / hoping for.
There were some very good moments and character developments in this series. T'pol and Trip were some of the best. Personally, I hated the ending of this series because it seems too much like the horrid hateful writing standards prevalent today. Times are dark enough without even our escape entertainment being sad without solutions. But the journey was great throughout the series. I'll always skip its ending.
They should have intensified their romance by screwing each other crazy every time they had a chance. I was always frustrated by the false prudishness on this show. Annoying.
A beautiful girl invites a boy into her room where she has candles lit against policy. Then, she tells him about the struggles she's having with her long-distance relationship, but rejects his take as a personal attack. Reminds me of college.
LOL, why doesn't he ask me out?!! I mean I invited him over and HINTED.
@NormAppleton I get the feeling that she thinks Koss was her *only* viable choice (not to mention getting her mother's job back from the arranged marriage). Plus, Trip didn't want to be the cause to be a homewrecker.
A beautiful girl meets a guy while stopped at a red light. Cat calls him and they exchange numbers right there. Later that night she invites him to her place & as soon as he gets there she hops in the shower. Comes back the living room in nothing but a towel so he makes his move. She gets offended and makes him leave. Then she called me to complain that he "tried her"
I'm like if you invited me over then hoped in the shower and come at me half naked I'd be expecting some kind of action too.
"Why the hell'd you ask me here?"
"I was hoping you would ask me to marry you. I would have accepted. Then you and Kass could fight to the death over me and I would become the willing slave of the winner."
Ya, thats much better. Thats how it should have been written.
*cue in Amok Time theme*
I'd take that chance!
'Chicks'.
I wish Trip and T'Pol had gotten married before they cancelled the series.
Me too!
Technically they were already married before the series ended having a meeting Bond does means they were married by Vulcan standards
@@sgtwhisker26 I think you meant "Mating bond"😉😁.
T'Pol's bachelorette party would have been off the hook. Thanks to Hoshi.
@@nicholasmaude6906 I did Thank you damn dyslexia
Out of all the scifi love affairs Trip and Topal was the most intense and heartbreaking
Easily the most *earned* relationship in all of Star Trek.
Right, so Trip was burned to a crisp, and she has to take care of him thereafter.
@@ricktheexplorer We never actually saw Trip die.
@@ricktheexplorer The Book said the injury was faked as was his death.
@@myfavoritemartian1 Oh that's right, that was supposed to have an episode after that if the show went on or something.
"You have an obligation to yourself!"
Important words for anyone to hear.
I loved how T'Pol evolved as a character.
I’d happily sit & watch her reading a phone book.
Evolved? Shes a Vulcan and evolving should be in a Vulcan way, not evolving into a human. Thats de-evolving.
She lived with humans for 4 years. Of course, that had an effect on her. If you don't like the word evolve, then call it change.
@@pflaffik spotted an aspie!
@@AnneWells-ro2mv mostly it was the neurological damage and subsequent addiction that eroded her ability to control emotions.
Kos was a real stand-up guy throughout the whole situation. A real gentleman.
t'pol and seven of nine would have the most interesting chat if they were to meet. 😊
If it was filmed today they'd end up in bed together.
yes please....if seven gets her show it could be a thing tpal would be old like spock by now but she could be alive
They would have ended up blewing somehow.... Immovable object meets Unstoppable force kinda thing...
That would be interesting alright. Like seeing Tulsi Gabbard on the Laura Ingraham show, that was also fascinating to watch. I'm not trying to bring politics into it, just saying, two women talking together that you would never in million years expect to meet in a friendly venue.
T'Pol was fishing for Him to say he wished she would stay on Enterprise. She wanted to know if there was even a slim chance Trip cared for her and would advise her to cancel everything and stay. Trip, being a literal minded male, answered what he was asked. (Not what she wanted to hear.)
So male is dense for not picking up on that "fishing", yet she is NOT dense for not picking up on his way of saying it, by suggesting it she should stay because of subconscious, and that she has a choice.
Women are infuriating in every race.
It's called plot stupidity! In real life this guy would have been all over that LOL
@@ckmoore101 nobody wants to be rejected, or the first one to declare themselves in for the long haul. This is standard operational romantic subplot of missed opportunity, for both sexes. He is free; she is not. Will he fight for her?
This was early in season One; Trip and T'Pol didn't even like each other much, let alone have romantic feelings between them. Nobody on the ship trusted T'Pol, thinking she was there as a spy. This scene happened because Trip had intercepted what he thought was a coded, secret message to T'Pol from the Vulcan High Command. He decoded it at Archer's orders, then found out it was about a personal matter. He admitted it to her, and so she knew that he was the only one on board who knew about her upcoming wedding. Thus, she spoke to him about it (hence the 'you weren't my first choice' bit; she would have had to admit to whoever she spoke to that she was engaged, and Trip already knew about it).
@@MrSprigg I haven’t watched this episode but I like your comment because it gave the scene's context but, what did she want Trip to say? It seems she’s giving contradictory signals.
When there child died you could see how much that they truly cared for each other even though she didn't come in to the world the normal way.
It's rare to see a Vulkan emote so well and still be convincing.
Convincing? Lol. Its so scripted and “human” that it ruined the whole show.
I'm gonna say what everyone is thinking, but not saying.
Vulcans are on the spectrum. They are an entire race of people that are functionally autistic.
@@pflaffik no dout she was supposed to be 100% vulcan unlike spock...she should have been almost robotic....they had her go full native on the enterprise way to fast
@@HO-os8ryI just saw someone I'm another comment section say the writers were going to reveal she's half Romulian
T'Pol: The day I marry you Commander is the day we are marooned in an expansive region of space filled with hazardous anomalies.
Trip: And the day I marry you will be the day I fill the cargo bay with sand for our honeymoon. Never gonna happen.
T'Pol: Highly unlikely.
LOL😁😆!
Lorian-in "E2"-did say that his mother and father were contentious toward each other, but did that really happen? T'Pol asked why if it didn't, why could she remember meeting herself?
@@virginiaconnor8350 Well both T'Pol and Trip were passionate people.
The writers were shipping these two from the beginning
@@chungkingexpress94 Well if the early scenes where they would rub decontaminating gel on each other was any indication, I would say you are correct.
Trip: "Why the hell'd you ask me here?"
T'Pol thinking: Because I was hoping you would ask me to stay because you feel about me the same way I feel about you.
I've never seen a Vulcan get so close to her inner most emotions
A proper woman, Vulcan or Earth. She expected him to read her minds and tell her what she wanted to hear. 😁
I remember hearing about Jolene’s resistance to wearing “the wig”. She is so beautiful that you could shave her head and she would still be stunning. In hind sight, that awful hairdo probably helped her character be taken more seriously. Vulcans don’t seem to be the type that would spend much time on vanity.
Have you seen Amok Time? Vulcans are the vainest people in the galaxy.
She liked it because she wasn't recognized on the street.
They seem to be OK with collagen and lipstick, though 😅
Even the most common sense human would seem like your worst out control neighbour to Vulcans.
Vulcans have philosophical/religious control over emotions and sexuality. Oh boy they feel it though.
They should have a Star Trek series, that centers around a human, serving on a Vulcan star ship.
I want that so badly. Vulcans deserve the spotlight, and the human being the fish out of water for once would be awesome. Except the nu Trek writers can't write Vulcans for shit.
You'd have to find competent writers in this current Industry first. They have become quite a rarity.
@@decom707it's not usually a writer's fault, most shows are design by committee
You should see half the scripts written for TNG and VOY that were thrown out because higher-ups had other plans, leading to other scripts put together last minute
I want any Trek show set outaide the Federation.
Picard gave us one outside Starfleet, but it felt like a wild west more than a civilised Federation.
A Doctor on a Medical ship? Or a Forensics Specialist on a Vulcan CSI Series? And A full Klingon Version? I have been waiting for these. Male and Female stories for all.
Trip really grows on me. I like his accent. This is also areally good argument between two polar opposite people (who also like each other but won't admit it).
I'm sorry but the southern accent screams "I'm ignorant". Trip should be driving around in a 10 year old pickup truck. Not be in space.
@@TheMrPeteChannel this is dumbest thing I've heard in a while
Such an underrated show.
I just watched Enterprise last year and loved the Trip/T'Pol storyline. There is some great fan fiction online that continues their stories.
How? Tripp died.
@@pterodactylptroll So did Spock.
But he didn't let a little death get in the way of important business.
What's not to love?
There are some great ST: enterprise novels that continue their story...
@@pterodactylptroll check out the stories. The way they do it is very convincing and consistent with the episode in which Trip died.
Best thing about that show. Them two.
Agreed.
Thank you sharing a great show.
Arranged marriage is still a thing, has never gone away
Slavery is still a thing - has not completely gone away.
@@alexchen7729 Alternate timeline to our own that takes place in a future that at least one of those has gone away. I say one because kirk has stated that about there being only one god as well as not using money and yet made comments eluding to them being atheists and using money. Slavery is obviously gone.....until the EMH gets repurposed as mine workers but something tells me arranged marriage still exists but is easy to get out of.
Out of the entire conversation, the last phrase was right on the money!!
I'm disappointed that in the series Trip and T'Pol didn't get married.
They did get bonded though....
@@myfavoritemartian1 Oh yeah, that would certainly make for some really hot sex.
@@myfavoritemartian1 Which does mean they did technically get married by Vulcan standards.
@@sgtwhisker26 My point also.
@@sgtwhisker26 An interesting fact to add here is that in ancient biblical customs going back thousands of years, intercourse between two people was enough to label them both as married, by biblical law they would be bound to each other permanently after such a union and their vows would be in the Torah. No priest is needed, no ceremony is needed.
Funny how the fictional Vulcan understanding of marriage is extremely similar to ancient and real biblical marriage.
The level of acting here is of such high quality. a real tribute to Machelle.
I Love it this Couple in this Show my friends. Thanks.
Good luck to you, detaching and moving forward
The relationship between T’Pol and Trip was compelling and endearing.
I also wish this show had received a better wrap-up than it did. Picard Season 3 was able to do this for TNG crew. Maybe one day soon we will read about ENT being brought back with a “Where are they now?” final season.
Man, I need to watch this show
That's called innocently lobbing a grenade to a Vulcan as a parting shot
She shows more emotion than Spock ever did and he was half human.
Spock always fought himself due to his human half.
I always like the scenes where she's got a look of being on the brink of ripping someone apart.
If I didn't know better reading the title of this video would make one think it was T'Pol and Trip talking about their marriage😉😁🤣.
I didn't know better.
Best things on this show... Were Porthos the dog. And T'Pols butt. ( I liked the show )
How I miss this show.
Her frankness is both astounding and revelatory: come on, Trip, listen deep and remember how the swordfish run deep in the sea far below the wind-blown waves. She is the most remarkable Vulcan in the Star Trek Worlds of Imagination.
They had great chemistry between them.
“Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will still go around saying 'I'm a Vulcan. Everything I do is because of logic.'”
― C.G. Jung
Indeed.
Trip doesn't have a full picnic basket and is a little dense.Trip should just tell I love you. T'pol was hoping he would.
Her character was amazing the way she developed it.
I think really in this moment that on some level T'pol was hoping to see Trip disagree entirely with her dilemma and talk her out of it and maybe convey his feelings towards her.
He didn't have feelings for her in Season One.
@markjohnson7488 By watching the show and observing the characters' behavior. Or just listening to how they talk to and about each other. Trip and T'Pol's relationship has a very obvious progression from the pilot to the finale.
@@MrSpriggbut maybe she had already, being a little smarter 😊😊😊😊
Never watched the series but love these shorts
I loved the interactions between Trip & T'pol.
The fact that they are both very stubborn throws a wrench into their possible romance. Both were fighting their feelings of attraction to each other. Note the way Trip wipes his lower lip with his thumb after they kiss. He's fighting it BIG TIME.
"It has to take precedence." Trip, she is all but reaching out to smack your face and finish that sentence with this: "It has to take precedence over my past and present with you, Trip." ----- Love takes many paths, sometimes rocky and uncertain.
He just didn't Grasp Her Intensity,or Grasp Her like she was Hoping He would.🤦😉
Jolene's performance as a Vulcan never fails to impress me.
That was delightful! ❤ never watched the series , but dang this makes me wish I had!
Damn, I miss this show.
What - Get Married and Kill a Great Relationship ? 😏
Damn she looks good for 60. And only exceptionally attractive women can pull off the short hair look.
"You are far from my 1st choice"
Damn girl, pull the punch A LITTLE.
Constant exposure leads to contamination. Trip is right. Further she confuses stubbornness for logic and reason.
REALLY DID LIKE THIS SERIES. VERY HONEST AND FORTHRIGHT,...unlike the first Star Trek.
I find it difficult to be sexually attracted to many women. But
Tpol Manages to fire that circuit in my mind and body. That's kinda rare!!!
It‘s definitely the haircut
There have been internet rumours around the last year or so suggesting that Enterprise might be resurrected for a fifth series, if so there are three things I want to see:
1) Bring Trip bak from the dead (Feasible as we didn't see his dead body).
2) Reunite Trip and T'Pol (Plus lots of hawt reunion sex).
3) Trip and T'Pol get formally married.
Tripp didn't really die. Books made by the writers (so half canon) stated that the holo program was made to show him die bc in reality he joined section 31 and participated in the Romulan War.
@@salilbhatnagar I know, I've read the books too.
If Enterprise gets resurrected in current year, there are three things I want to see:
1) No.
2) Don't.
3) Please leave my favorite Star Trek alone.
(In that order.)
@@fedeac31 1) Yes.
2) Do
3) correct the blunders made in Enterprise in S5.
@@nicholasmaude6906 In today's political climate? No, just no. New writers will poop all over the lore and turn the show into a political platform for a specific ideology.
Star trek was always about morality, progress and the maturing of the human condition. But looking at "Picard" and "Discovery"... Those two shows are the opposite of star trek.
I hope they never revive this series. Some things are better left in peace.
I think t`pol really has feelings for trip but she knows she can’t say and it really upsets her.
She wanted him to suggest an alternative...partner. Otherwise why ask his advice. Shame he didn't realise it.
He's a human, not a Betazoid; he's not made to read minds.
This was kinda early in the show. I think they were feeling eachother out. The writers may have been hinting at a future between these two at this point.
I read when they got canceled they were doing good in rating it was the president of CBS at the time and he did not like the show
What a bastard.
Les Moonves. Apparently, he didn't like "MFU" because it too was cancelled after 4 seasons; the time and day were changed too to mess up things for fans.
I thought it had mainly to do with the Writer's Guild strike and the advent of "reality TV" (ugh)
Only appropriate, since Desi-Lu was not going to pick up the pilot until Lucille Ball, the co-owner, made a managerial decision to keep it.
Yep. He made a bunch of stupid decisions when he took over at cbs. He hated everything Star Trek
I'm kind of disappointing the writers did not have the engineer lay out the elements of her problem like a project on a work bench.
Give possible solutions, and outcomes to each one.
Of all the Star Trek series and movies, I like Enterprise the most.
Not sure why but I seem to more relate to these character portrayals.
Yes, every TNG character were just boring perfect
She thinks the world of Trip but she gets off on being mean to him.
It’s got to be the most domed relationship in TV history.
TPol many a young man’s fantasy. I wonder if she realized what effect she had
This series is every bit as good as S.T.TOS just with better special effects and technology. I can see a seamless integration with Spock,Mccoy and Kirk meeting the crew in some type of temporal/ time travel episode. Something like S.T.DS9 and the Tribble episode.
Vulcans don't change, and we saw Spock as a child, so they do grow up, i call that change, his father married a human, that is not traditional, but in the timeline that was in the future.
Too bad they never got to do that fifth season where they were considering revealing that T'Pol was part Romulan. The potential stories particularly between these two would have been awesome.
I once read that Paramount eventually did regret not filming a fifth season. Paramount never did explain why. But a fifth season would have forced the filming of the Earth-Romulan War. As we know, the Hollywood studios responsible for all the Star Trek shows and movies have thus far been mysteriously very reluctant to depict the Earth-Romulan War in any fashion. Even Paramount dodged the Earth-Romulan War by invented the non-canonical fictional story of the Earth-Xindi War, which had never, never, never been mentioned anywhere in the canonical Star Trek universe. The stupid, Earth-Xindi War took up a valuable year, thus allowing Paramount to postpone the Earth-Romulan War. When it became unavoidable, Paramount simply cancelled the series, quoting insufficient viewership.
To be fair, popular tv and cable shows have often been mysteriously cancelled, quoting insufficient viewership. Studios claim that they need a minimum X amount of viewership in order to demand the high commercial fees that companies and corporations pay for commercial advertising. Ostensibly, if a tv or cable show's viewership goes below a certain minimum, companies and corporations will either be reluctant to pay for their commercials, or demand a lower price. It's all about the Benjamins.
@@jeffyoung60 The studio execs responsible for cancelling s5 should've been given the boot.
@nicholasmaude6906 Where is the "Paramount Network" now?
They did get the boot. Just not in the "Hand them a box for their stuff, and escort them out of the building" kind of fired.
In business bad decisions end up in no business anymore, just the name gets swallowed up by another business entity often.
Maybe we can get an animated revival because they're all to old looking for "a fish season".
In the 5th season, Tpol and Trip were going to raise their daughter together. I would like to see that. They would eventually be married.
What can I do for you..., does your blue veined custard chucker work!
"And wuve, twue wuve wiw wast fowevuh and foewevuh" - the Impressive Clergyman.
"I understood that reference".
Trip may be in love with T’Pol, but to only do it once 7 years … would suck 🖖
I was married. Been there, done that.
She wanted Trip to said, that he likes her and she should not do this marriage.
Did she actually have to wear that bad haircut at the grocery store and restaurants? 😂
Vulcans don’t change? Then how did the Romulans come into existence?
She must work out like hell to maintain that figure. That suit leaves nothing to the imagination.
She’s a former model who is likely naturally very thin. If she works out it’s only cardio and not much or she wouldn’t have any muscle at all.
I'll admit, next to the original series, this was the best.
anyone remember where t'pol mentions they are in orbit of planet that has dragons.
Implying the unconscious mind does not effect the conscious mind, which does effect decision making?
After a couple of months into my first tour in South Korea guys I worked with said that I was starting to pick up Korean customs and habits. Some started calling me half-Korean. Well, unless I duty that night when I got off from work I showered and headed to the front gate. Until the next morning.
Isn't feeling insulted an emotion? And since Vulcans shun emotions, wouldn't insult be illogical?
So she already had made up her mind, but asked for "advice" anyway??
Poor Trip, he was stuck in a "No Win" situation!
How does a Vulcan have vocal fry?
I feel a song by the Beautiful South coming on....'Don't marry him, have me' 🎶🎶
Prefer the other version of that song😁
Can you imagine T'pol having this conversation with McCoy?
Uh oh.... "Damnit, I am a Doctor, not a counselor"
We all know they get together, as in another episode they discover they have a kid together. He should have just told her how he feels about her.
I loved this version of Star Trek, this relationship was one of the reasons. It was a great show.
Fascinating: how much humans, in startrek universe, are trying to prove ,other species, (especially more advanced ones) that human way is the right way :D
The prime directive? The only reason they bring up how humans think differently is when dealing with inter-species conflict. But the irony is that these "species" were invented by the human imagination. So its really different sides of the human mind arguing with itself.
Good programme, shame it was cancelled. Arranged marriages still go on, good idea too.
T Pol wanted be a machine more
Trip had to go back to Engineering and consult with the captain of the Orville.
When this series was cancelled this confirmed my belief that Star Trek fans in general lack any appreciation of quality storytelling. Time has only validated that conviction. The New World series is challenging that view.
I FELT BAD FOR TRIP WHEN T-POL BROKE HIS HEART BY GOING TO CAPTAIN ARCHER. THAT WAS CRUEL!!!!😭🤧😥
The Lack of Closure really irritated lots of Fans - Especially My Wife ! 🤭
Why do I get the sense that T'pol is denying her feelings for Trip? It seems like she wants Trip to either stop the marriage and connect with her or reject her so she can go on with the marriage.
She is a Vulcan. Normally she shouldn’t have any feelings towards anyone but I guess living among humans for so long and -theoretically- being part Romulan makes T’pol somewhat susceptible to emotions. She is still conditioned to shield her behavior from any kind of emotion she may experience.
@@eceozuduru5148Well... she shouldnt have any emotions, the way humans shouldnt steal from others.
In both cases they are but a theoretical ideal, Vulcans genetically as a species are even more emotional than ST humans, but surpresses those instincts with life-long training, meditation and just plain old denial. Dont have to be part romulan or take influence from humans for it to be so.
The results of those surpression failures are visible at many points in the show, this being one of those occasions. Every Vulcan in ST Enterprise was pretty emotional, to be frank.
It looked to me like Trip did try to stop her from marrying koss. He was trying to be supportive. Maybe it fell short of what Tpol was looking / hoping for.
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Simple, my dear Tucker. She wanted you to tell her to stay.
There were some very good moments and character developments in this series. T'pol and Trip were some of the best.
Personally, I hated the ending of this series because it seems too much like the horrid hateful writing standards prevalent today. Times are dark enough without even our escape entertainment being sad without solutions. But the journey was great throughout the series. I'll always skip its ending.
That was excellent. I feel the very same way. Thanks for sharing your insight.
Lol I didn't know that this was an actual series. I thought it was a fan made show
I think Trip in some way actually gave her an 'out', she could blame her change of mind on the human influence.
She is just annoyed that he doesn't understand her hint.
They should have intensified their romance by screwing each other crazy every time they had a chance.
I was always frustrated by the false prudishness on this show. Annoying.
Typical women. Always thinking we men would pick up the hints that they like us out there without actually telling us 😂