Well, or the officer in charge at the time, in the absence of the captain. So if Adama was still making his way to the bridge, then Tigh would be the actual.
"This is the Battlestar Pegasus to the ship claiming to be the Galactica. Please respond." That has to be my single favorite line throughout the entire series. Even though things go sideways in a hurry, for at least a moment they have a real, true, bright moment of hope because they also learn something of supreme importance... that they are not alone anymore.
Looking back at it it does also hint at Cain’s suicidal battle tactics since she’s headed straight in (CBDR) when there are literally dozens of ships surrounding Galactica. That as far as she knows could have been cylon warships.
There's lots ot love in this scene, it's incredible. When Kandyse McClure says "They're authentic" it really hits me, just how she says that one line you can tell she's selling it from there the feel train hits hard.
For me personally it was the same feelingwise, however it was when Adama said "Hol to jump 2". I remember hearing that and thinking "Oh oh, this is gonna be really big"
For me it's the other way around, imagine thinking you're alone in the universe, then hearing the oldest and most outdated Battlestar in the fleet threaten to fire at you. Now THAT would be awesome.
I hate it.. i get its a much more advanced ship wich requires less crew but there is a difference between that and a tiny CIC with just a couple screens here and there.. Pegasus is still a huge Battlestar with lots of weapons and over 200 Vipers as her standard complement.. her CIC set looked like something improvised fast.. Hell even the Demetrius CIC looks better
Knowing that a significant chunk of Pegasus are fighter production facility, I wonder how much of the Pegasus is actually warship. Since only the warship part need the CIC, it might be another reason why Pegasus's CIC is smaller than expected. Then again, with proper automation, it can theoretically take as few as 15 people to control a starship.
@@theslicefactor4590 i know, same as with not showing the hangar bays or how they loaded the Vipers into the inverted tubes that exit in the same deck.. But it still a boomer. They could had redressed the Galactica CIC adding more consoles and screens and changing stations positions, maybe a color change and thats it.. Thats what Star Trek did all its run ..all bridges are redressed bridges of the Enteprise in any of her iterations (and even so many were lame like the Nebula class)
@@sparrowlt so you mean they would need to flipflop the bridge every scene? you do know that they prewrote to season 3 meaning that they couldnt burst of all the pegasus scenes. also this would mean that the ship would be killed off sooner so that the production crew would not revolt
You can see that the Pegasus is the supireor ship, just by the fact that the DRADIS on Pegasus can differentiate between Pegasus and Galactica's viper, but Galactica only shows all vipers as Colonial vipers. And even though these screens are in the shot for only a frame or two, just the fact they did the effort makes the show a whole lot better.
@@hillsane9262yea, I always took this more as each Battlestar identified them as colonial based on transponders, then once recognition codes verified/more information was sent from each vessel, dradis labels changed.
The look of relief and joy on the faces of the crews on both ships is overwhelming. You can almost hear both crews thinking: “No longer alone! We’re no longer alone! We have a chance now; we actually have a CHANCE!”
chardtomp or how about THIS one from Daybreak: (I may or may not remember the dialogue EXACTLY): "Attention all hands! Admiral of the Fleet, President of the Colonies DEPARTING!" Upon their return: Hoshi greets Adama and Roslin (again my recollection of the dialogue may not be exact): "Welcome back, sir! Those Admirals' stars are heavy!"
Notice the screen behind Dee when she confirms the recognition codes, the "Unknown Vessel" updates to "Battlestar Pegasus", such a great attention to detail.
The screen is completely out of focus. They could have put whatever they wanted on it. And yet, you are right, you can visibly see the ident update the moment she confirms the codes. That is quite the attention to detail.
There's a reason for that which was discussed in the original mini-series. The Cylons could hack any complex computer technology, especially those accessible to wireless signals. That is how their surprise nuclear attack on the colonies in that miniseries succeeded - but also why Galactica alone, with its deliberately primitive technology, survived.
This show was so intensive to watch for me back then when it premiered. No other show could give me such an experience ever since. The constant oscillation between hope and despair, the permanent presence of something sinister, which turned out to be not always outside. Most of all, the deeply shameful feeling what people are able to do to each other even on the verge of extinction. I loved the mix of realism (no aliens), mysticism (links to old greek mythology), logic in story development and characters behavior, twists in the plot (sometime brutal), the music score.. just everything about it. I say one more big THX to all the creators of this fantastic show.
Yea I agree. They tried something similar with Stargate Universe but as good as the show was, it ended up being really depressing. BSG just got te balance right and made it really rewarding. I just wish they made blood and chrome into a full series.
Its interesting, what one considers logic in story and characters another will not think so. But to the 'realism' part, we don't know. I always thought that by making the Cylons a human creation it got rid of one of the most interesting aspects of the original. That humanity was in a fight against what was essentially a terminator race built by another race. Instead it boiled down to the same old crap of creator/creation storylines we've seen before.
rizon72 I am totally agree with you, the only part that never like me was the Cylons as humans and the "divine" stuff. In the first series the Cylons were tools made by an unknown reptilian species whom wanted to exterminate any other species for some unknown reason. That unknowns pieces is what could make the mystery very appealing to resolve. I want to mean with the "divine" stuff, things like Starbuck's disappearance and re-appearance at the end, so we could think is something like an "angel". Yes i like the religion plot, mysticism, greek mythology , Baltar cult, etc., because that shows the need for hope of all the survivors.
@@stabarnak9841 Thanks for the advice, but i have already watched the whole The Expanse and i think is the latest real science fiction series with shoes!
@WhyAmIWearing ARedShirt I suppose this information (along with the vessel's name) is displayed only after the vessel is authenticated by IFF and proper recognition codes. On a Cylon DRADIS, it would be represented as a generic battlestar contact.
@@RayPall yes unless they have the proper codes, then it'll say the name. I think the flag officer part is probably written into DRADIS memory (i.e. something like IF iff_tag=bspegasus THEN display_graphic[rear_admiral_stars])
Bear McCreary's music and the acting have me in tears by the time the 4 minute mark hits. They really put you into the shoes of the characters and make you feel their joy.
I remember this moment and how happy and exhilarated and hopeful I was when a SECOND Battlestar ship joined the group. If the Fleet was doing pretty decent with one Battlestar, then other would be such a great help. But of course, the worst enemies to humans will always be other humans.
Yeah, Cain has a very violent and extreme history. This dates back to even the First Cylon War. In the second one/ the human exodus: she stripped the civilian vessels she found for parts an wanted to counter attack immediately, even though the entire Colonial Fleet was destroyed. (Galactica was decommissioned so it doesn’t count)
Granted if Colonial Fleet wasn’t disabled by Baltar’s virus. It would have easily taken out the Cylon assault since the Baseships of the 2nd Cylon War were designed solely for planetary bombardment
Submarine in spaceeeeee. But on the subject of doors. Thats one hell of a harch. Going by that, isnt the ship 20% wasted interior space with the size of the corridors *this* big.
@@EzioDeCreeper Not as much as you'd think,, for several reasons. (it's engineering time) On a technological side of things, they can safely build larger structurally sound designs than we can. On one practical side, the ship crews far more and operates on a far wider range of missions than submarines or even traditional warships, so increased space, especially since the crew can't go outside on deck, is a reasonable reason for larger corridors. And on another practical side, a submarine is still in an atmosphere and surrounded by water when not on the surface. A starship is out on it's own, with only the air it can carry. Large, air filled hallways give crew in them a more comfortable breathing environment, both in terms of being stuck in the can long term, and in the event ventilators have an issue and they're stuck unable to move to another part of the ship there's literally that much more breathing room before things become a problem for the stuck crew.
i agree....it sets up a such stark contrast of feelings music wise..going from constant military style drums and sad low key down beats ..to hopeful almost return to normalcy (for this universe )music ..just great very cinematic for tv show
I was just going to comment that same point! I love the Pegasus theme and it gives me shivers every time in this scene - it hold both hope and foreboding in its melody. Bless Bear forever!
The view as the vipers fly past and the Pegasus comes into view is amazing. You only see part of the ship, which gives you a feeling of just how big it is.
But the really stupid part of that scene is that Apollo waited that long before reporting back to Galactica. He couldn't tell it from a Cylon ship until he was that close or he didn't think it was worth reporting the nature of the mystery contact as soon as he had visual contact?
1978 Apollo: "Oh my Lord, it isn't a 𝗱𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗺 . . . " 2009 Apollo: " . . . You are not going to believe what I'm looking at out here. It's like a 𝗱𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗺 . . . " A small, but satisfying connection between the two.
Only thing better would be during a battle between the Cylons and the Galatica when it's having jump problems, would be one of the Cylons saying "What about the other Battlestar?" as the Pegasus jumps in right behind the baseships and opens fire. :)
I always liked the detail that after this, admiral kane says "welcome back to the colonial fleet" when pegasus is the one joining the fleet. I know it makes sense the she would say that given she has highest rank but I think it also foreshadows how little regard she gives to the civilian fleet and highlights the tension between her send adama early on. She derives authority solely from a now largely defunct military structure while adama was increasingly deriving authority from the loyalty and trust he inspired on galactica.
Admiral Cain was probably somewhat in denial by that point. Remember, she originally had a civilian fleet following her battlestar around as well, but scrapped it for parts and fuel so she could continue war operations. In her delusional mind, she probably still thought of herself as leading a "fleet" despite only having one ship remaining.
Since Cain was a rear-admiral and a flag officer on detached service at the time (by Colonial military protocol and maybe not our modern Earth military type protocols) she outranked Adama by quite a bit so yes, since she was the highest ranking officer and an admiral, wherever she was, SHE was the Colonial Fleet. Besides, she had to establish her authority quickly so that there would be no disputes. It being BSG, of course there were disputes later but they were mostly held in private until later. The things she did, the things she felt she had to do were something most of us will never have to face. I don't defend her but I understand where she was coming from and the choices she felt she had to make when she and the Pegasus were alone with no help and no hope.
Admiral Cain also didn't bother calling the _Galactica's_ commanding officer by his rank, simply addressing him as "Adama," as a superior officer would a junior. Adama reinforces this by calling her by rank and name, and behaving more formally. Nothing wrong with either's action, but it does wonderfully set up the upcoming tension in authority and command.
KingreX32 I had the same reaction. You feel so hopeful at first that the Pegasus has shown up. Then when you find out what Admiral Cain and her crew have done, the moral compromises they have made, the lines they have crossed, the innocent civilians that as soldiers they should have done everything to protect and instead left to die, and it becomes truly horrific. The personal tragedy of Cain, who is a strong and forceful military commander, but who has taken her beliefs to the extreme, justifying her actions all the way, and gone over the edge. It was an interesting contrast with Adama. In the first episode, after the Cylon attack, he too is all gung-ho about taking the Galactica and attacking the Cylons despite overwhelming odds. He is convinced to instead turn to defending and protecting the civilian fleet by the newly sworn in President(a former school teacher).In one of my favorite lines from the series she says to him, "I don't know why I(a civilian) have to keep telling you(the professional soldier) this. The war is over. We lost."
Don Gilleo hell dude. When I first watched this show I wanted Adama to go and fight too. The way the cylons attacked was so cowardly and backstabbish. Like Adama I had to give way to logic as well.
KingreX32 I think hitting back, getting revenge is the first instinct of anyone, especially after a sneak attack or getting blindsided by an enemy. There is a quote by a U.S. admiral(can't think of the name) after the Pearl Harbor attack, "When this war is over the only place Japanese will be spoken is in hell." That instinct is why the crew of the Pegasus is so devoted to Cain. Her iron will, her discipline, and her willingness to make the hardest of hard decisions has kept them alive, in the fight, and able to hit back at the hated Cylons. Her thinking is strictly military, taken to the extreme, and her crew thinks the Galactica crew has gone soft. Adama might have gone down the same road, but he had the President and his son Apollo to act as a moral compass and talk him into following a different path.
Yeah, they wrote Cain as an interesting contrast to Adama. Absolute contrast really. Interesting as that was, I was disappointed. Would have far, far preferred a heroic Adm Cain that nonetheless still at odds with Adama on most choices. They could have ramped that up without pushing her that far across the line. I suppose that would have made her more like the original Cain, and maybe even less like the namesake after which she is named as a character, but I can't help think it would be a lot better. Could have been amazing.
Eric Saari That is a good point. I think they made everything darker in this version of Battlestar Galactica, from the sets to the characters and especially the plot. A Cain that was constantly in conflict with Adama, but without going over the edge, would have been interesting. Part of the conflict was that she outranked Adama. He had developed a working relationship with the President to cooperate. Cain shows up, begins to order Adama around, and has no intention of taking orders from the civilian president. If I remember correctly, in the original series Adama outranked Cain, but Cain was a wild card constantly going off on his own to do what he wanted or thought was best. The original Cain reminds me of the U.S. WW2 general Patton; a great military commander, very offensive minded, who was always exceeding or ignoring his orders.
Such an easy solution: "Admiral Cain, here is a medal, Do to extensive experience, I have a working relation ship to Fleet Super Duper admiral Adama. I am so glad you will be supporting him!
Magnificent. Watched the series several times. But I actually remember the time I was watched it (again) with my teen boys...they didn't know the plot (or the old show) but when THEY saw the Pegasus - I could see their reaction - they were just as surprised and joyous...all those emotions you refer to and even the crew acting...they HAD the same emotions. Which just shows you the power of this show, the screenplay, the director and of course...the amazing acting talent
I liked her character on ST:TNG. She got promoted to Lieutenant, went on a covert mission, finally deserted Star Fleet to join the Maquis fighting the Cardassians. If I remember correctly, Forbes was considered for continuing her character on both Deep Space Nine(her character spot became Kira) and Voyager(she would have been part of the Maquis crew that joined the Voyager crew). I think she turned them down. She could have had acting work for years. She gets on Battlestar Galactica, and her character doesn't last long there. Sad.
I love the reveal of the Pegasus, especially how her beautiful design is clearly G1 influenced. Her symbolism of hope to the fleet and viewer and then.......
A Model T Ford is a classic, doesn't mean it can beat a Mustang in a street race. The Pegasus was 2/3rds larger than the Galactica and had far superior fire power. In addition it also had Viper and Rapter factories on board to turn out new ships from scrap as well as flight simulators to train new pilots in a safe and controlled environment. Also the Pegasus had automation hardware so it could be crewed by much fewer men, while not being centralized and vulnerable to the Cylons. From a tactical stand point sacrificing the Pegasus was foolish and Adama was as well for not using it in the rescue mission.
I only just found it, looking for a trailer for the episode Pegasus which has the highest rating on imdb for the season so I wanted to see why with a trailer or similar and found this, still a couple to go before I get to this episode but when I watch it on my TV, oh boy. I've already downloaded the score for the series as a result and played this track multiple times. What a masterpiece of a scene! I love it! *I've watched this episode now and I expect it'll be one of the best of the series if not the best, I still love watching this, it tears me up every time.. that full shot of the Pegasus after all that lead up.. Amazing. You really gotta hand it to the people that put this together and Bear for making such an outstanding track to accompany it.. So glad to have picked up this series.
The music on this show will always be the high point for me. Knowing the exact notes to make you feel the emotion in every scene it’s truly a masterpiece of sci fi music but also hits you where it needs to hit you
This is one of my favorite BSG scenes out of all four years. The way we're taken from "oh God no, not again, not now" to "OMG, we aren't alone!!! Another battlestar survived!" and the desperation that flows to disbelief then to relief and joy is made palpable by McCreary's music underneath the scene.
It was a great scene, too bad the backstory with Helena Cain wasn't so awe inspiring. She was actually cannibalizing helpless civilian ships to keep her own running and giving their crews choices, "serve on my ship or die". They picked a good actress (Michelle Forbes) for the role of Cain and I wished she had gone on to either command the fleet, or back to Star Trek Discovery as the Captain of her own ship.
GICking I agree..when I first watched this series, and this scene, I had the song stuck my head, for days after hearing it...Still enjoy the music score every time :)
One of the greatest moments of this show. And the pure joy that follows.. it's almost palpable. After all the hardmanships that they endured, this was really like a dream. And the music, like always, amazing from Bear McCreary.
I remember seeing this when it first aired and at the time I brought tears to my eyes, and it still does. A brilliant reveal, gradually done, each step highlighted by the slow growing hope in McCreary’s score.
@kinkarcana 1293 Never saw that portion of the series in which the Pegasus was sacrificed. It got too metaphysical for me by that point. It didn't make sense to me that anyone would sacrifice a better ship and keep and old "bucket". But then again, the series wouldn't be "Galactica" anymore, would it?
Without question my favourite show ever and have watched the entire series over 5 times. Extraordinary script writing, story arcs within story arcs and brilliant acting.
@@tammymartinez7488 And then when Cain refused to recognize the continuance of the Colonial government through President Roslin and the Quorum, you knew it was on.
Yes, that seemed extremely arrogant to me as well, though purely from a matter of rank, she might technically have been correct when she said "Welcome back to the fleet" because being a (the only remaining) flag officer, the "fleet" is where ever she is.
when dreams become nightmares. This is the beginning of one of the greatest and most intense story arcs in dramatic television history. Kudos to Anne Cofell Saunders for her brilliant screenplay. Not until Game of Thrones years later would television reach this pinnacle of quality and imagination again. Isn't it nice when TV doesn't treat us as idiots!?
Game of Thrones was good, but no comparison in terms of the understanding of human nature. GoT was simplified into extreme cynicism and optimism, with cynicism usually winning. BSG has the entire richness of human nature and many perspectives.
This moment was incredible. One of the most hopeful moments in the whole series, in my opinion. Great work on the music, it fits the vibe so perfectly!
Something that I didn't think about until now: It appears Pegasus was going to blow away Galactica's CAP without questioning THEIR colonial transponders. A first reveal into the mindset of their Admiral?...
Galactica detected an unknown massive blip at extreme range. But was basically pinned in place for a couple minutes, obligated to defend the defenseless fleet until all other ships could jump away. No choice except to growl and bark at the intruder. Pegasus detected an unknown massive fleet at extreme range. But could jump away any moment. No need to reveal aggressive intent (or capabilities) until a real threat is confirmed. Might as well stay silent, wait, and gather data. Plus the ship commanders might just have different personal styles and preferences. Different people make different gambling choices when the rules of the game aren't known.
@@wombat-ut4hlyeah it takes several minutes to spool up ftl drives so I’d imagine having defected a massive fleet and not being completely sure of their identity, any competent commander would’ve launched alert vipers to defend the ship while it prepares to jump. Galactica did the same thing after all
The moment Hoshi's voice comes over the wireless I always get chills. The moment it starts to sink in that this is real. Despite how it all turns out this is a moment that I always remember. For a show that's always shrouded in darkness it makes these happy moments so much brighter.
Absolutely. You can see at first glance that it means business. That this is a Colonial warship at its prime and the Cylons are hella lucky there's not more of it.
@@bujtorm I mean.... the cylons turned the majority of these battlestars off like a switch. The only reason Pegasus survived is because it was disconnected at the time of the attack and being refitted to be on the same system. Its FTL was still functional so they did an emergency jump and the rest is history.
@@rinzzler366 the only reason the Cylons managed to do that was Gaius Baltar being an idiot who couldn't keep it in his pants. Also, because the Colonials forgot the most important rule when fighting Cylons: No networked systems!
@bujtorm the point is the Pegasus would have been destroyed too if not for it being anchored and essentially turned off at the time of the attack. And yes no networks vs Cylons, but at this point it was over 40 years of no Cylon contact, almost two generations of people go by ofc things are going to change in the mindset. Not everyone has the same mindset of adama
@@rinzzler366being perfectly honest if even 5 mercury class ships had survived with minimal damage and had grouped up without any networked computers the cylon fleet wouldn’t have stood a chance with how superior an average battlestar is to a baseship
Man... This show is the best. It's so good on so many different levels. I mean i don't know, it kinda reminds me of Starcraft a bit, but the storyline is on another level. It has that incredible synthesis of hope and unpredictability that just urges you to watch what happens next while keeping you tight in your seat. And yet, when you finally find out the story behind it, that just makes it more powerful and thrilling to watch again
1:17 An electric guitar with a chorus pedal fits perfectly on the soundtrack - It is not often heared today. Great scene about no longer feeling that it's just you against it all.
This is right up there for best moment in the show, right next to when Galactica jumps into the atmosphere of New Caprica, free-falling and launching vipers, then jumping back out moments before hitting the ground.
I actually think the Galactica jump into New Caprica's atmo is better, but this is my second favorite. Third is the end of season 3 with all along the watchtower playing.
The look Tigh gives Adama and the way Dualla looks right at Adama when she says "Hold... Jump..." the second time (like the old man has completely lost it) are those wonderful little pieces that make the scene so effective.
I am not sure why they held jump. It would have been safer to let the civilians jump away while Galactica protected their position and investigated. But Dee's expression and reaction does add drama, which I am sure is why they did it. Another nitpick is that when they saw what they thought was a basestar, they set condition 1 throughout the fleet. When they realized it was the Pegasus, they returned to condition 1. Oops.
I remember this episode like it was yesterday. Seeing the Pegasus made me have this Huge Smile on my face. Good memories of that show, still get me to this day.
Thank you Syfy for the BSG marathon last week during this Covid-19 lock-down. I was glued to my TV for about 14 hours a day. And recorded every episode that I couldn't watch. Damn, that was a great show! Watching almost every episode in order just made it that much better. Including "The Plan" and "Razor" was awesome.
That is one of the best updates to a classic design ever put to screen...on par with the TOS, to TMP, Enterprise; the Mercury class is a fantastic looking ship.
Despite everything that happens after this, this is probably one of my favorite scenes in the series. Imagine thinking you're the last of humanity for months or years only to happen upon not just a group of civilian ships, but another Battlestar. And to make it even better, a Mercury is one of the greatest assets a fleet can have since it can recoup Viper and Raptor losses on top of everything else a Battlestar provides. It also marked the point where the Colonials stopped running from the Cylons and actually went on the offensive for a time. The only way it could've been better (or at least a little humorous) would be if the Pegasus had arrived while Adama was unconscious and he woke up to the Fleet now having two Battlestars and a Flag Officer. Edit: I also just noticed that Apollo's IFF on the Pegasus's DRADIS is Galactica CAG rather than a numerical Viper designation.
@@jamesbuchanan4414 just killed, think one got his face bashed in, the other got an unlucky bolt to the head. Neither got shot tho. The crewmen in question were helo and the chief. Both had personal reasons to care bout boomer.
A small point, at 00:13 Lt Gaeta calls Action Stations, set Condition one throughout the ship. Later after recognition codes have been exchanged Adama orders the Fleet to step down to Condition One... wouldn't the fleet be at Cond One when Galactica set it?
"Galactica, Apollo, you are not going to believe what I'm looking at here. It like a dream, it makes me wanna command it and ram it into a Base star. "
I love how much thought went into the design of the ship interiors. Pegasus being much cleaner, with LCDs rather than CRTs, is great attention to detail
I really loved this scene when I first saw it, I had tears running down my cheeks but I was happy and smiling. Even to this day I get goose bumps watching this scene or listening to this scene.
Every time I watch this episode I get the biggest goosebumps, it's the most emotional moment in my opinion and I get all teary eyed. Best SciFi series, I'm so sad it ended
When that Bear McCreary guitar solo kicks me, I begin to tear up. Galactica and the ragtag fleet are not be alone. Actors on both ships really sold their awe and happiness.
Loved the addition of the Pegasus to the fleet. As in, the fleet finally catches a solid break for once. Able to build new fighters, which implies a rather complete production capacity the Galactica lacked. Hated the way the show kept going farther and farther down the grim dark path, as with what later happens to her because of Apollo's decisions. As likeable as Apollo was supposed to be, his decisions in command of the Pegasus and ultimately on Earth were catastrophic for the human race. The show was called BSG Galactica, but the Pegasus was in every single way a superior resource for the fleet - throwing it away to save his dad's 'venerable' ship was not ideal.
It was a poor writing decision, in the end. It would've made far more sense if the Pegasus had to sacrifice herself to save the Fleet as a whole, rather than Galactica. Consider this scenario: Admiral Adama always intended to sacrifice Galactica at New Caprica. It would've been better if all the Cylon basestars fighting Galactica realised what was happening and began moving to attack the civilian fleet. Galactica is too badly damaged to do anything, so Pegasus has to jump in instead to cover the civilian exodus. Despite being impossibly outnumbered, Lee pulls some brilliant moves and Pegasus goes down in a blaze of glory, destroying all four Cylon basestars, winning the battle and saving humanity as a whole. Even better, for Lee, it would've been the culmination of his character arc. He'd become overweight, complacent, overly cautious. His father told him that he'd lost his edge. Saving the day like that would've been the perfect way to finish that, to show that Lee still has his edge, that he stepped up when needed, and that he was worthy of being commander of Pegasus. Gah, I wish Pegasus's sacrifice had been handled better. It's a sore spot with me too.
The show is called Battlestar Galactica. It could not have continued more than an episode or two without the Galactica. But yes, in the show's logic, they should have planned to sacrifice Galactica if necessary, and keep Pegasus. That was in fact the plan, but Lee set the plan aside mainly to save the people aboard the Galactica - a good decision at the time, but a better decision would have been to have vital people on the Pegasus instead. I find it believable, though. Adama couldn't live with abandoning the civilians. Lee could. So Adama was on the rescue mission and Lee was not, initially. Then it turned out that Lee couldn't live with abandoning his father. This was not 100% logical, but, humans are not 100% logical. It rang true to me.
If they had the budget this would have happened, they a lot of sets for Galactica and only a few for Pegasus, I'd argue a lot of the writing is as good as it is because they were restrained and had to rely on character and dialogue so much.
It went further and further down the grimdark path because the writers were motivated by anti-American politics. I watched exactly one episode (the second), realized exactly what they were going for by giving the original Adama's decision to run rather than fight to a female civilian, and swore off it. Turns out I was right.
@Evan M: If the universe is infinite and eternal, and "filled" with intelligent lifeforms, then, at all times, EVERY possible level of technological development is occurring someplace.
I really wish that people would not post massive spoilers. New people discover this series every day. But anyway, this is explained in the show. The universe is old. There has been time for this technology level to develop a hundred times.
masterpeice... only when youa re not paying attention. just in this clip alone. apollo has the idiocy to go out on intercept alone with cat. your telling me it's a masterpieve that it is aparantly normal strategy to send out two fighters alone and only re-enforce them in 3 minutes? the cylon raiders will slaughter them!!! and then move on to the rest of the vipers. remember, that back then they didnt have pegasus, so they didnt have the ability to manufacture the vipers. then why would they just throw away pilots and machines like that?
I really love how it's still slightly muted and super foreshadowing - we don't get anything like the super joyous gaelic singing music that we hear after victories, it's more restrained, with a few slightly unsettling minor transitions - and everyone's happy, except Adama, who's got a pretty serious face on, before saying "It /is/ a dream"...
I weeped when the brought in Pegasus, and there was no internet leaks. I was old enough to have watched the old series, so to have the linage was just amazing.
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"Galactica, this is Pegasus actual.... Adama, is that you?"
Still brings goosebumps when I hear it...
Actua, no L
@@brianvector no, it is actual. It is a military term meaning that the person is not speaking to some junior officer, but the ACTUAL commander.
@@brianvector Pegasial 14! RESPOND!
I would have liked it more if she said "Bill, is that you?".
Well, or the officer in charge at the time, in the absence of the captain. So if Adama was still making his way to the bridge, then Tigh would be the actual.
"This is the Battlestar Pegasus to the ship claiming to be the Galactica. Please respond." That has to be my single favorite line throughout the entire series. Even though things go sideways in a hurry, for at least a moment they have a real, true, bright moment of hope because they also learn something of supreme importance... that they are not alone anymore.
Looking back at it it does also hint at Cain’s suicidal battle tactics since she’s headed straight in (CBDR) when there are literally dozens of ships surrounding Galactica. That as far as she knows could have been cylon warships.
There's lots ot love in this scene, it's incredible. When Kandyse McClure says "They're authentic" it really hits me, just how she says that one line you can tell she's selling it from there the feel train hits hard.
For me personally it was the same feelingwise, however it was when Adama said "Hol to jump 2". I remember hearing that and thinking "Oh oh, this is gonna be really big"
For me it's the other way around, imagine thinking you're alone in the universe, then hearing the oldest and most outdated Battlestar in the fleet threaten to fire at you. Now THAT would be awesome.
claiming to be... so pro
the reveal of the Pegasus bridge was genius.
accustomed to the oldschool design, it's like you time jump 50 years into the future.
I hate it.. i get its a much more advanced ship wich requires less crew but there is a difference between that and a tiny CIC with just a couple screens here and there..
Pegasus is still a huge Battlestar with lots of weapons and over 200 Vipers as her standard complement.. her CIC set looked like something improvised fast.. Hell even the Demetrius CIC looks better
Knowing that a significant chunk of Pegasus are fighter production facility, I wonder how much of the Pegasus is actually warship. Since only the warship part need the CIC, it might be another reason why Pegasus's CIC is smaller than expected.
Then again, with proper automation, it can theoretically take as few as 15 people to control a starship.
its because it is almost 50 years into the future,
@@theslicefactor4590 i know, same as with not showing the hangar bays or how they loaded the Vipers into the inverted tubes that exit in the same deck.. But it still a boomer. They could had redressed the Galactica CIC adding more consoles and screens and changing stations positions, maybe a color change and thats it.. Thats what Star Trek did all its run ..all bridges are redressed bridges of the Enteprise in any of her iterations (and even so many were lame like the Nebula class)
@@sparrowlt so you mean they would need to flipflop the bridge every scene? you do know that they prewrote to season 3 meaning that they couldnt burst of all the pegasus scenes. also this would mean that the ship would be killed off sooner so that the production crew would not revolt
You can see that the Pegasus is the supireor ship, just by the fact that the DRADIS on Pegasus can differentiate between Pegasus and Galactica's viper, but Galactica only shows all vipers as Colonial vipers.
And even though these screens are in the shot for only a frame or two, just the fact they did the effort makes the show a whole lot better.
It's scarier than that. The Pegasus's DRADIS also identified which viper was Galactica's CAG.
@@2QRh6g1I Twenty years later, there are still so many good little touches in this show to find. Good catch!
@@tcerathi On the Galactica, contact goes from Unknown, to Colonial, to Pegasus on Dradis.
@@hillsane9262yea, I always took this more as each Battlestar identified them as colonial based on transponders, then once recognition codes verified/more information was sent from each vessel, dradis labels changed.
...and then Lee Adama ruins everything by sacrificing the superior battlestar instead of returning it to the fleet...
The look of relief and joy on the faces of the crews on both ships is overwhelming. You can almost hear both crews thinking: “No longer alone! We’re no longer alone! We have a chance now; we actually have a CHANCE!”
And then they hit the Cylons where it really fucking hurt.
I always liked that they used a lot of actual naval terminology on this show.
Copy reclaiming fire, I have the ball.
chardtomp or how about THIS one from Daybreak:
(I may or may not remember the dialogue EXACTLY):
"Attention all hands! Admiral of the Fleet, President of the Colonies DEPARTING!"
Upon their return:
Hoshi greets Adama and Roslin
(again my recollection of the dialogue may not be exact):
"Welcome back, sir! Those Admirals' stars are heavy!"
Galactica is supposed to represent a WW2 era Battleship.
ACTION STATIONS!
Charles Jones Galactica is more like an aircraft carrier/battleship hybrid. It took a direct hit from a nuke. That’s a tough ship.
Notice the screen behind Dee when she confirms the recognition codes, the "Unknown Vessel" updates to "Battlestar Pegasus", such a great attention to detail.
EnglanderUK There phones are on old school retro springy cords mate !
The screen is completely out of focus. They could have put whatever they wanted on it. And yet, you are right, you can visibly see the ident update the moment she confirms the codes. That is quite the attention to detail.
There's a reason for that which was discussed in the original mini-series. The Cylons could hack any complex computer technology, especially those accessible to wireless signals. That is how their surprise nuclear attack on the colonies in that miniseries succeeded - but also why Galactica alone, with its deliberately primitive technology, survived.
Thats funny - I'm looking at her DRADIS screen and it still shows the telltales in red
Gaeta's shows Green
@@paulc9106 Nah, you got it wrong.
This show was so intensive to watch for me back then when it premiered. No other show could give me such an experience ever since. The constant oscillation between hope and despair, the permanent presence of something sinister, which turned out to be not always outside. Most of all, the deeply shameful feeling what people are able to do to each other even on the verge of extinction. I loved the mix of realism (no aliens), mysticism (links to old greek mythology), logic in story development and characters behavior, twists in the plot (sometime brutal), the music score.. just everything about it. I say one more big THX to all the creators of this fantastic show.
Yea I agree. They tried something similar with Stargate Universe but as good as the show was, it ended up being really depressing. BSG just got te balance right and made it really rewarding. I just wish they made blood and chrome into a full series.
Its interesting, what one considers logic in story and characters another will not think so. But to the 'realism' part, we don't know. I always thought that by making the Cylons a human creation it got rid of one of the most interesting aspects of the original. That humanity was in a fight against what was essentially a terminator race built by another race. Instead it boiled down to the same old crap of creator/creation storylines we've seen before.
rizon72 I am totally agree with you, the only part that never like me was the Cylons as humans and the "divine" stuff. In the first series the Cylons were tools made by an unknown reptilian species whom wanted to exterminate any other species for some unknown reason. That unknowns pieces is what could make the mystery very appealing to resolve. I want to mean with the "divine" stuff, things like Starbuck's disappearance and re-appearance at the end, so we could think is something like an "angel". Yes i like the religion plot, mysticism, greek mythology , Baltar cult, etc., because that shows the need for hope of all the survivors.
@@marioq70 I HIGHLY recommend "The Expanse". From the get go, it is as visually stunning as BSG, and quickly becomes an equally compelling drama.
@@stabarnak9841 Thanks for the advice, but i have already watched the whole The Expanse and i think is the latest real science fiction series with shoes!
If you look closely at the Dradis screen at 3:58 you can see 2 stars next the Pegasus showing that it has a flag officer onboard.
@WhyAmIWearing ARedShirt It would only be on Galactica's dradis.
@WhyAmIWearing ARedShirt I suppose this information (along with the vessel's name) is displayed only after the vessel is authenticated by IFF and proper recognition codes. On a Cylon DRADIS, it would be represented as a generic battlestar contact.
@@RayPall yes unless they have the proper codes, then it'll say the name. I think the flag officer part is probably written into DRADIS memory (i.e. something like IF iff_tag=bspegasus THEN display_graphic[rear_admiral_stars])
@@grigss3027 Sounds like you did your homework. 0_0 You do code? Or do you possibly have naval experience?
@@ryandunham1047 į used to work with a team To make a fan game,but the team split mid development due to the scope of the game
Bear McCreary's music and the acting have me in tears by the time the 4 minute mark hits. They really put you into the shoes of the characters and make you feel their joy.
I must have watched it over 30 times before it stopped evoking tears from me! Great build-up.
It reminded me of Top Gun.
I remember this moment and how happy and exhilarated and hopeful I was when a SECOND Battlestar ship joined the group. If the Fleet was doing pretty decent with one Battlestar, then other would be such a great help. But of course, the worst enemies to humans will always be other humans.
If you knew the arc from the original series when they met the Pegasus, you knew it was not going to end well.
Yeah, Cain has a very violent and extreme history. This dates back to even the First Cylon War. In the second one/ the human exodus: she stripped the civilian vessels she found for parts an wanted to counter attack immediately, even though the entire Colonial Fleet was destroyed. (Galactica was decommissioned so it doesn’t count)
Granted if Colonial Fleet wasn’t disabled by Baltar’s virus. It would have easily taken out the Cylon assault since the Baseships of the 2nd Cylon War were designed solely for planetary bombardment
Well in that universe I would still say that the worst enemies are the cylons
A battlestar worst enemy will always be lee adama.
It's a small detail, but I love how you constantly get shots of people closing hatches. It's a tiny thing that helps sell they're on a starship.
and also adds to the claustrophobia-like atmosphere
@@judgeporceddu8057 Feels like a submarine to me.
@@usul573 a starship is s submarine after all :p
Submarine in spaceeeeee.
But on the subject of doors. Thats one hell of a harch.
Going by that, isnt the ship 20% wasted interior space with the size of the corridors *this* big.
@@EzioDeCreeper Not as much as you'd think,, for several reasons. (it's engineering time) On a technological side of things, they can safely build larger structurally sound designs than we can. On one practical side, the ship crews far more and operates on a far wider range of missions than submarines or even traditional warships, so increased space, especially since the crew can't go outside on deck, is a reasonable reason for larger corridors. And on another practical side, a submarine is still in an atmosphere and surrounded by water when not on the surface. A starship is out on it's own, with only the air it can carry. Large, air filled hallways give crew in them a more comfortable breathing environment, both in terms of being stuck in the can long term, and in the event ventilators have an issue and they're stuck unable to move to another part of the ship there's literally that much more breathing room before things become a problem for the stuck crew.
Special nod to Bear McCreary for his music in this scene. Goosebumps!
What’s the particular track called?
Pegasus
i agree....it sets up a such stark contrast of feelings music wise..going from constant military style drums and sad low key down beats ..to hopeful almost return to normalcy (for this universe )music ..just great very cinematic for tv show
I was just going to comment that same point! I love the Pegasus theme and it gives me shivers every time in this scene - it hold both hope and foreboding in its melody. Bless Bear forever!
So say we all.
The view as the vipers fly past and the Pegasus comes into view is amazing. You only see part of the ship, which gives you a feeling of just how big it is.
It literally fills the screen.
thats what she said,
But the really stupid part of that scene is that Apollo waited that long before reporting back to Galactica.
He couldn't tell it from a Cylon ship until he was that close or he didn't think it was worth reporting the nature of the mystery contact as soon as he had visual contact?
"Galactica, Apollo. Request permission to land on the Pegasus. I'm experiencing problems with my thrusters."
@@superdave8248 _Just a centon Apollo, the cameraman is experiencing turbulence._
Director: _I said shake the camera more!_
1978 Apollo: "Oh my Lord, it isn't a 𝗱𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗺 . . . "
2009 Apollo: " . . . You are not going to believe what I'm looking at out here. It's like a 𝗱𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗺 . . . "
A small, but satisfying connection between the two.
Only thing better would be during a battle between the Cylons and the Galatica when it's having jump problems, would be one of the Cylons saying "What about the other Battlestar?" as the Pegasus jumps in right behind the baseships and opens fire. :)
They had so many...including the shuttles.
i still prefer the original series
@@viper2165 well, very two different series....that is the part always been hard to accept
@@ruthgar9753 "iii really think you should look at this......"🤣
I always liked the detail that after this, admiral kane says "welcome back to the colonial fleet" when pegasus is the one joining the fleet. I know it makes sense the she would say that given she has highest rank but I think it also foreshadows how little regard she gives to the civilian fleet and highlights the tension between her send adama early on. She derives authority solely from a now largely defunct military structure while adama was increasingly deriving authority from the loyalty and trust he inspired on galactica.
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS AND I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED THAT DETAIL! Kane is so full of herself that THEY are joining HER fleet of one.
Admiral Cain was probably somewhat in denial by that point. Remember, she originally had a civilian fleet following her battlestar around as well, but scrapped it for parts and fuel so she could continue war operations. In her delusional mind, she probably still thought of herself as leading a "fleet" despite only having one ship remaining.
As higher in command she needed to establish superiority
Since Cain was a rear-admiral and a flag officer on detached service at the time (by Colonial military protocol and maybe not our modern Earth military type protocols) she outranked Adama by quite a bit so yes, since she was the highest ranking officer and an admiral, wherever she was, SHE was the Colonial Fleet. Besides, she had to establish her authority quickly so that there would be no disputes. It being BSG, of course there were disputes later but they were mostly held in private until later. The things she did, the things she felt she had to do were something most of us will never have to face. I don't defend her but I understand where she was coming from and the choices she felt she had to make when she and the Pegasus were alone with no help and no hope.
Admiral Cain also didn't bother calling the _Galactica's_ commanding officer by his rank, simply addressing him as "Adama," as a superior officer would a junior. Adama reinforces this by calling her by rank and name, and behaving more formally.
Nothing wrong with either's action, but it does wonderfully set up the upcoming tension in authority and command.
It's amazing how this episode started on such a light and hopeful note and ended on the complete opposite end of the scale.
KingreX32 I had the same reaction. You feel so hopeful at first that the Pegasus has shown up. Then when you find out what Admiral Cain and her crew have done, the moral compromises they have made, the lines they have crossed, the innocent civilians that as soldiers they should have done everything to protect and instead left to die, and it becomes truly horrific. The personal tragedy of Cain, who is a strong and forceful military commander, but who has taken her beliefs to the extreme, justifying her actions all the way, and gone over the edge. It was an interesting contrast with Adama. In the first episode, after the Cylon attack, he too is all gung-ho about taking the Galactica and attacking the Cylons despite overwhelming odds. He is convinced to instead turn to defending and protecting the civilian fleet by the newly sworn in President(a former school teacher).In one of my favorite lines from the series she says to him, "I don't know why I(a civilian) have to keep telling you(the professional soldier) this. The war is over. We lost."
Don Gilleo hell dude. When I first watched this show I wanted Adama to go and fight too. The way the cylons attacked was so cowardly and backstabbish. Like Adama I had to give way to logic as well.
KingreX32 I think hitting back, getting revenge is the first instinct of anyone, especially after a sneak attack or getting blindsided by an enemy. There is a quote by a U.S. admiral(can't think of the name) after the Pearl Harbor attack, "When this war is over the only place Japanese will be spoken is in hell." That instinct is why the crew of the Pegasus is so devoted to Cain. Her iron will, her discipline, and her willingness to make the hardest of hard decisions has kept them alive, in the fight, and able to hit back at the hated Cylons. Her thinking is strictly military, taken to the extreme, and her crew thinks the Galactica crew has gone soft. Adama might have gone down the same road, but he had the President and his son Apollo to act as a moral compass and talk him into following a different path.
Yeah, they wrote Cain as an interesting contrast to Adama. Absolute contrast really. Interesting as that was, I was disappointed. Would have far, far preferred a heroic Adm Cain that nonetheless still at odds with Adama on most choices. They could have ramped that up without pushing her that far across the line. I suppose that would have made her more like the original Cain, and maybe even less like the namesake after which she is named as a character, but I can't help think it would be a lot better. Could have been amazing.
Eric Saari That is a good point. I think they made everything darker in this version of Battlestar Galactica, from the sets to the characters and especially the plot. A Cain that was constantly in conflict with Adama, but without going over the edge, would have been interesting. Part of the conflict was that she outranked Adama. He had developed a working relationship with the President to cooperate. Cain shows up, begins to order Adama around, and has no intention of taking orders from the civilian president. If I remember correctly, in the original series Adama outranked Cain, but Cain was a wild card constantly going off on his own to do what he wanted or thought was best. The original Cain reminds me of the U.S. WW2 general Patton; a great military commander, very offensive minded, who was always exceeding or ignoring his orders.
Pegasus remains one of the sexiest battle starships I've ever seen, purely design-wise
Eh I like the Halbard class destroyer from halo
Shes a beast all right. Big, Chunky and lethal. Still bugs me that Apollo sacrificed it.
Colonial Battlestars are hunks of junk next to an Imperial Harrower Class Dreadnought.
@@Helos743 *laughs in wh40k*
Agreed, you KNEW you were looking at a warship pure and simple (though there is nothing simple about any starship.)
Despite how things went with Cain, this scene still gives me so much relief. You can feel it.
Such an easy solution:
"Admiral Cain, here is a medal, Do to extensive experience, I have a working relation ship to Fleet Super Duper admiral Adama. I am so glad you will be supporting him!
Magnificent. Watched the series several times. But I actually remember the time I was watched it (again) with my teen boys...they didn't know the plot (or the old show) but when THEY saw the Pegasus - I could see their reaction - they were just as surprised and joyous...all those emotions you refer to and even the crew acting...they HAD the same emotions. Which just shows you the power of this show, the screenplay, the director and of course...the amazing acting talent
Yeah it is a miracle ..... How the hell did Ensign Ro get promoted to Admiral and given a Battlestar ?
Lol, I hear ya! Yeah, the same actress! Michelle Forbes :-) Wowza!!! ^v^
She worked very hard and had Picard as a mentor.
I liked her character on ST:TNG. She got promoted to Lieutenant, went on a covert mission, finally deserted Star Fleet to join the Maquis fighting the Cardassians. If I remember correctly, Forbes was considered for continuing her character on both Deep Space Nine(her character spot became Kira) and Voyager(she would have been part of the Maquis crew that joined the Voyager crew). I think she turned them down. She could have had acting work for years. She gets on Battlestar Galactica, and her character doesn't last long there. Sad.
She was from Scorpio or something
90AlmostFamous Tauron. Scorpia was a Colonial Fleet shipyard.
I love the reveal of the Pegasus, especially how her beautiful design is clearly G1 influenced. Her symbolism of hope to the fleet and viewer and then.......
One of the most beautiful ships in scifi.
Probably the most cool moment of the entire series. Absolutely awesome. And Bear's score is one of my favorites from any composer. Simply perfect.
Jason Rose I concur
The music reminded me of Miami Vice
The Pegasus rescue was cooler, minus the stupid sacrifice of a superior ship to save an inferior one.
Silence, you! As stated by Cain herself Galactica ain't inferior, it's a classic
A Model T Ford is a classic, doesn't mean it can beat a Mustang in a street race. The Pegasus was 2/3rds larger than the Galactica and had far superior fire power. In addition it also had Viper and Rapter factories on board to turn out new ships from scrap as well as flight simulators to train new pilots in a safe and controlled environment. Also the Pegasus had automation hardware so it could be crewed by much fewer men, while not being centralized and vulnerable to the Cylons. From a tactical stand point sacrificing the Pegasus was foolish and Adama was as well for not using it in the rescue mission.
2020 and it still tear's me up.
I only just found it, looking for a trailer for the episode Pegasus which has the highest rating on imdb for the season so I wanted to see why with a trailer or similar and found this, still a couple to go before I get to this episode but when I watch it on my TV, oh boy. I've already downloaded the score for the series as a result and played this track multiple times. What a masterpiece of a scene! I love it!
*I've watched this episode now and I expect it'll be one of the best of the series if not the best, I still love watching this, it tears me up every time.. that full shot of the Pegasus after all that lead up.. Amazing. You really gotta hand it to the people that put this together and Bear for making such an outstanding track to accompany it.. So glad to have picked up this series.
2022 and it still tears me up.
2023 and yes it still does.
2024 still tearing up
The music on this show will always be the high point for me. Knowing the exact notes to make you feel the emotion in every scene it’s truly a masterpiece of sci fi music but also hits you where it needs to hit you
It reminded me of Top Gun.
McCreary made this show unforgettable. Immortal even!
Greatest music for any series ever imo.
I cried at this point. Bear McCreary's music did so much for this series. So top notch.
I don't know how many times I've watched this scene, but gottdamn, there's just so much HOPE in these few minutes.
This is one of my favorite BSG scenes out of all four years. The way we're taken from "oh God no, not again, not now" to "OMG, we aren't alone!!! Another battlestar survived!" and the desperation that flows to disbelief then to relief and joy is made palpable by McCreary's music underneath the scene.
It's so crazy Admiral Cain says it's a miracle and Captain Adama says it's a dream. Then Cain turns it into a nightmare.
2:24 you can literally hear the shaking in dualla’s voice! She almost breaks down in tears when she realizes they. Might be alone out there after all!
This was one of the most beautiful moments in the series. I still get goosebumps watching it.
It was a great scene, too bad the backstory with Helena Cain wasn't so awe inspiring. She was actually cannibalizing helpless civilian ships to keep her own running and giving their crews choices, "serve on my ship or die". They picked a good actress (Michelle Forbes) for the role of Cain and I wished she had gone on to either command the fleet, or back to Star Trek Discovery as the Captain of her own ship.
GICking I agree..when I first watched this series, and this scene, I had the song stuck my head, for days after hearing it...Still enjoy the music score every time :)
One of the greatest moments of this show. And the pure joy that follows.. it's almost palpable. After all the hardmanships that they endured, this was really like a dream.
And the music, like always, amazing from Bear McCreary.
It reminded me of Top Gun.
This is easily one of my favorite scenes of the show still gives me goosebumps watching it
Just like in the old Battlestar Galactica TV Series!
Without question. One of mine as well.
Agree!
First time I saw this ! Incredible !
I remember seeing this when it first aired and at the time I brought tears to my eyes, and it still does. A brilliant reveal, gradually done, each step highlighted by the slow growing hope in McCreary’s score.
Peak BSG. We’ll never see Sci Fi this good again.
commented 3 yrs ago below... this is still the best sci fi reboot ever filmed and the absolute best cast ever for a TV series... ever produced
Pegasus was an amazing ship. I was so gutted when she was destroyed.
So was she!
stewban007 there's no shame on how it went
The original Pegasus was much better looking in the old TV Series!
In the original series, Galactica and Pegasus were exactly the same class of battlestar.
@kinkarcana 1293 Never saw that portion of the series in which the Pegasus was sacrificed. It got too metaphysical for me by that point. It didn't make sense to me that anyone would sacrifice a better ship and keep and old "bucket". But then again, the series wouldn't be "Galactica" anymore, would it?
Best sci fi tv show of all time. The first season is probably one of the most intense seasons for any TV shows ever.
Without question my favourite show ever and have watched the entire series over 5 times.
Extraordinary script writing, story arcs within story arcs and brilliant acting.
I still come back to watch this any time I need to feel some hope.
You knew there would be problems when Caine "welcomed" Galactica back to the fleet....
Yeah I got that also....asserting her dominance
Yeah I remember when Roslin saw Adama salute Cain! The look on Roslin’s face was “oh shit” were in trouble!
@@tammymartinez7488 And then when Cain refused to recognize the continuance of the Colonial government through President Roslin and the Quorum, you knew it was on.
Yes, that seemed extremely arrogant to me as well, though purely from a matter of rank, she might technically have been correct when she said "Welcome back to the fleet" because being a (the only remaining) flag officer, the "fleet" is where ever she is.
@@antred11 Oh that's a good point / technically speaking
The split second Cain said, "Welcome back to the fleet." to Adama, I knew there was going to be real problems.
LOL That was such an egotistical, megalomaniac style thing for her to say.
They borrowed USN procedures to “give body” to this plot. Most excellent.
when dreams become nightmares.
This is the beginning of one of the greatest and most intense story arcs in dramatic television history. Kudos to Anne Cofell Saunders for her brilliant screenplay.
Not until Game of Thrones years later would television reach this pinnacle of quality and imagination again. Isn't it nice when TV doesn't treat us as idiots!?
I don't know after these 2 years if you've done it already... but check out the Expanse. Full recomend.
Game of Thrones was good, but no comparison in terms of the understanding of human nature. GoT was simplified into extreme cynicism and optimism, with cynicism usually winning. BSG has the entire richness of human nature and many perspectives.
@@MeakisTV Twice I have tried to get into The Expanse and twice I got bored and gave up.
@@wombat-ut4hl i almost gave up on the expanse early on, its takes a couple seasons to find its footing.
A fabulously well crafted and beautifully executed scene as Gaiatica discovers another battlestar survived the fall of the colonies.
I always thought BSG did a great job showing believable technological changes with the newer vipers and battlestars
This moment was incredible. One of the most hopeful moments in the whole series, in my opinion. Great work on the music, it fits the vibe so perfectly!
It reminded me of Top Gun.
Something that I didn't think about until now: It appears Pegasus was going to blow away Galactica's CAP without questioning THEIR colonial transponders. A first reveal into the mindset of their Admiral?...
Galactica detected an unknown massive blip at extreme range. But was basically pinned in place for a couple minutes, obligated to defend the defenseless fleet until all other ships could jump away. No choice except to growl and bark at the intruder.
Pegasus detected an unknown massive fleet at extreme range. But could jump away any moment. No need to reveal aggressive intent (or capabilities) until a real threat is confirmed. Might as well stay silent, wait, and gather data.
Plus the ship commanders might just have different personal styles and preferences. Different people make different gambling choices when the rules of the game aren't known.
@@pwnmeisterage Pegasus had just jumped into range. Galactica was already there. So I think Galactica had slightly more time to react for that reason.
@@wombat-ut4hlyeah it takes several minutes to spool up ftl drives so I’d imagine having defected a massive fleet and not being completely sure of their identity, any competent commander would’ve launched alert vipers to defend the ship while it prepares to jump. Galactica did the same thing after all
The moment Hoshi's voice comes over the wireless I always get chills. The moment it starts to sink in that this is real. Despite how it all turns out this is a moment that I always remember. For a show that's always shrouded in darkness it makes these happy moments so much brighter.
Sounds more like Fisk's voice.
That's not Enterprise :=D
Or is there "Hoshi" on BSG?
@@martinm.1967 Louis Hoshi is the Pegasus Comm officer yes.
I don’t know. Does anyone have the script?
YEP
The Mercury Class Battlestar is one of the sexiest space ships designs ever.
Absolutely. You can see at first glance that it means business. That this is a Colonial warship at its prime and the Cylons are hella lucky there's not more of it.
@@bujtorm I mean.... the cylons turned the majority of these battlestars off like a switch. The only reason Pegasus survived is because it was disconnected at the time of the attack and being refitted to be on the same system. Its FTL was still functional so they did an emergency jump and the rest is history.
@@rinzzler366 the only reason the Cylons managed to do that was Gaius Baltar being an idiot who couldn't keep it in his pants. Also, because the Colonials forgot the most important rule when fighting Cylons: No networked systems!
@bujtorm the point is the Pegasus would have been destroyed too if not for it being anchored and essentially turned off at the time of the attack.
And yes no networks vs Cylons, but at this point it was over 40 years of no Cylon contact, almost two generations of people go by ofc things are going to change in the mindset. Not everyone has the same mindset of adama
@@rinzzler366being perfectly honest if even 5 mercury class ships had survived with minimal damage and had grouped up without any networked computers the cylon fleet wouldn’t have stood a chance with how superior an average battlestar is to a baseship
Man... This show is the best. It's so good on so many different levels. I mean i don't know, it kinda reminds me of Starcraft a bit, but the storyline is on another level. It has that incredible synthesis of hope and unpredictability that just urges you to watch what happens next while keeping you tight in your seat. And yet, when you finally find out the story behind it, that just makes it more powerful and thrilling to watch again
i swear when i first saw The Pegasus in this series i teared up. still a beautiful scene.
1:17 An electric guitar with a chorus pedal fits perfectly on the soundtrack - It is not often heared today. Great scene about no longer feeling that it's just you against it all.
Miami Vice!
This is right up there for best moment in the show, right next to when Galactica jumps into the atmosphere of New Caprica, free-falling and launching vipers, then jumping back out moments before hitting the ground.
I actually think the Galactica jump into New Caprica's atmo is better, but this is my second favorite. Third is the end of season 3 with all along the watchtower playing.
"It is a dream."
Worst nightmare is more like it.
I think I've watched this clip a dozen times.
God everything about this scene was perfect, the pacing, Bear's incredible music, the genuine joy you felt just from their performances.
In a deleted scene Adama said of Pegasus "its too bad she wont live, but then again who does"
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You've done a man's job, sir. I guess you're through, huh?
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Lmao. Too good. Too good.
If only this had turned out much better than it did. Heart wrenching to see this again and know what happens.
Sad that it managed to turn out even worse than the reunion with the Pegasus did in the original series.
I love the sense of scale you get in this scene.
I've watched this scene dozens of times and it still brings a smile to my face!
The look Tigh gives Adama and the way Dualla looks right at Adama when she says "Hold... Jump..." the second time (like the old man has completely lost it) are those wonderful little pieces that make the scene so effective.
I am not sure why they held jump. It would have been safer to let the civilians jump away while Galactica protected their position and investigated. But Dee's expression and reaction does add drama, which I am sure is why they did it. Another nitpick is that when they saw what they thought was a basestar, they set condition 1 throughout the fleet. When they realized it was the Pegasus, they returned to condition 1. Oops.
This sequence NEVER get's old. Still sends chills over me.
What follows are about 10 minutes of peace and quiet before the stress starts boiling up again. What a great series this is!
I remember this episode like it was yesterday. Seeing the Pegasus made me have this Huge Smile on my face. Good memories of that show, still get me to this day.
The musical score on this show was so interesting. Somehow it worked perfectly.
Maybe I'm soft but even after eight or so rewatches this show still manages to bring me to tears.
Thank you Syfy for the BSG marathon last week during this Covid-19 lock-down. I was glued to my TV for about 14 hours a day. And recorded every episode that I couldn't watch. Damn, that was a great show! Watching almost every episode in order just made it that much better. Including "The Plan" and "Razor" was awesome.
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That is one of the best updates to a classic design ever put to screen...on par with the TOS, to TMP, Enterprise; the Mercury class is a fantastic looking ship.
The Mercury Class is my second favorite BSG design, just beaten by the Adamant Frigate
Love the foreshadowing at the last few lines of dialog .
Despite everything that happens after this, this is probably one of my favorite scenes in the series. Imagine thinking you're the last of humanity for months or years only to happen upon not just a group of civilian ships, but another Battlestar. And to make it even better, a Mercury is one of the greatest assets a fleet can have since it can recoup Viper and Raptor losses on top of everything else a Battlestar provides. It also marked the point where the Colonials stopped running from the Cylons and actually went on the offensive for a time.
The only way it could've been better (or at least a little humorous) would be if the Pegasus had arrived while Adama was unconscious and he woke up to the Fleet now having two Battlestars and a Flag Officer.
Edit: I also just noticed that Apollo's IFF on the Pegasus's DRADIS is Galactica CAG rather than a numerical Viper designation.
The best moment in the series is Baltar's accent.
This show and the music is unparalleled. Sometimes I avoid watching these clips or I’ll feel compelled to watch the whole thing again
Yes. Time to get the score. The show sucked in the end, but the score was great.
...38min later "well that escalated quickly"
38 minutes later? Why? What happened? Did a Stargate somehow stay open?
That really got out of hand. Brick killed a guy!
@@SpidermanandJeny If I remember it right, a Galactica crewman shot two Pegasus crewmen who were attempting to "interrogate" Boomer by raping her.
@@jamesbuchanan4414 just killed, think one got his face bashed in, the other got an unlucky bolt to the head. Neither got shot tho. The crewmen in question were helo and the chief. Both had personal reasons to care bout boomer.
@@rinzzler366iirc that was Athena, not Boomer
A small point, at 00:13 Lt Gaeta calls Action Stations, set Condition one throughout the ship. Later after recognition codes have been exchanged Adama orders the Fleet to step down to Condition One... wouldn't the fleet be at Cond One when Galactica set it?
I noticed this too, definitely a mistake
I always notice this too. I just shrugging say hollywood.
I still get chills!
This scene so emotional made trees from my eyes
The music that overlays this scene is perfect.
YES!!!!
I love that moment , I loved all this emotions at the moment, I loved that music probably the best. I also loved what it could be but wasn't.
"Galactica, Apollo, you are not going to believe what I'm looking at here. It like a dream, it makes me wanna command it and ram it into a Base star. "
0:35 Soldier thinking to himself "you're welcome, at least someone closes the doors around here..."
OMG, one of my favorite moments in the whole series. So good.
I love how much thought went into the design of the ship interiors. Pegasus being much cleaner, with LCDs rather than CRTs, is great attention to detail
Except for all the glass, but you have to have something to shatter dramatically at each attack.
@@joetoh6675 Maybe it's space glass
This is unquestionably the most powerful and emotional scene within the entire series.
Love the detail of the little stars next to the Pegasus indicating a flag officer is aboard.
My favorite scene in the series and the music is magically perfect for this segment.
"Galactica, this is Pegasus actual..... Adama, is that you?"
"Admiral Cain..... What a Pleasure to hear your voice!"
I really loved this scene when I first saw it, I had tears running down my cheeks but I was happy and smiling. Even to this day I get goose bumps watching this scene or listening to this scene.
It reminded me of Top Gun.
Every time I watch this episode I get the biggest goosebumps, it's the most emotional moment in my opinion and I get all teary eyed. Best SciFi series, I'm so sad it ended
This was the clip that made me binge the whole season in a matter of days.
I've watched this entire show at least ten times, but I still get goose bumps during this scene. The music really sets the mood.
When that Bear McCreary guitar solo kicks me, I begin to tear up. Galactica and the ragtag fleet are not be alone. Actors on both ships really sold their awe and happiness.
I feel that I can rewatch this for months.
Loved the addition of the Pegasus to the fleet. As in, the fleet finally catches a solid break for once. Able to build new fighters, which implies a rather complete production capacity the Galactica lacked. Hated the way the show kept going farther and farther down the grim dark path, as with what later happens to her because of Apollo's decisions.
As likeable as Apollo was supposed to be, his decisions in command of the Pegasus and ultimately on Earth were catastrophic for the human race.
The show was called BSG Galactica, but the Pegasus was in every single way a superior resource for the fleet - throwing it away to save his dad's 'venerable' ship was not ideal.
It was a poor writing decision, in the end. It would've made far more sense if the Pegasus had to sacrifice herself to save the Fleet as a whole, rather than Galactica. Consider this scenario: Admiral Adama always intended to sacrifice Galactica at New Caprica. It would've been better if all the Cylon basestars fighting Galactica realised what was happening and began moving to attack the civilian fleet. Galactica is too badly damaged to do anything, so Pegasus has to jump in instead to cover the civilian exodus. Despite being impossibly outnumbered, Lee pulls some brilliant moves and Pegasus goes down in a blaze of glory, destroying all four Cylon basestars, winning the battle and saving humanity as a whole.
Even better, for Lee, it would've been the culmination of his character arc. He'd become overweight, complacent, overly cautious. His father told him that he'd lost his edge. Saving the day like that would've been the perfect way to finish that, to show that Lee still has his edge, that he stepped up when needed, and that he was worthy of being commander of Pegasus.
Gah, I wish Pegasus's sacrifice had been handled better. It's a sore spot with me too.
The show is called Battlestar Galactica. It could not have continued more than an episode or two without the Galactica. But yes, in the show's logic, they should have planned to sacrifice Galactica if necessary, and keep Pegasus. That was in fact the plan, but Lee set the plan aside mainly to save the people aboard the Galactica - a good decision at the time, but a better decision would have been to have vital people on the Pegasus instead. I find it believable, though. Adama couldn't live with abandoning the civilians. Lee could. So Adama was on the rescue mission and Lee was not, initially. Then it turned out that Lee couldn't live with abandoning his father. This was not 100% logical, but, humans are not 100% logical. It rang true to me.
the true reason it happened was because they needed studio space for the cylon CIC, so Pegasus was destroyed so it set could be re-purposed
If they had the budget this would have happened, they a lot of sets for Galactica and only a few for Pegasus, I'd argue a lot of the writing is as good as it is because they were restrained and had to rely on character and dialogue so much.
It went further and further down the grimdark path because the writers were motivated by anti-American politics. I watched exactly one episode (the second), realized exactly what they were going for by giving the original Adama's decision to run rather than fight to a female civilian, and swore off it. Turns out I was right.
Love how the show takes place long before our time but have advanced technology and societies.
All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again.
@Evan M: If the universe is infinite and eternal, and "filled" with intelligent lifeforms, then, at all times, EVERY possible level of technological development is occurring someplace.
I really wish that people would not post massive spoilers. New people discover this series every day. But anyway, this is explained in the show. The universe is old. There has been time for this technology level to develop a hundred times.
“I still think you should look at the other Battlestar” 😊
Admiral Cain will always be my favourite character on this show ♥ She did not stick around for long but what an impact she made!
Jesus Christ what a masterpiece of a show. I sometimes forget what genius it was. One of the all time greatest shows of my lifetime.
masterpeice... only when youa re not paying attention. just in this clip alone. apollo has the idiocy to go out on intercept alone with cat.
your telling me it's a masterpieve that it is aparantly normal strategy to send out two fighters alone and only re-enforce them in 3 minutes?
the cylon raiders will slaughter them!!! and then move on to the rest of the vipers.
remember, that back then they didnt have pegasus, so they didnt have the ability to manufacture the vipers. then why would they just throw away pilots and machines like that?
I really love how it's still slightly muted and super foreshadowing - we don't get anything like the super joyous gaelic singing music that we hear after victories, it's more restrained, with a few slightly unsettling minor transitions - and everyone's happy, except Adama, who's got a pretty serious face on, before saying "It /is/ a dream"...
For me personally one of the best moments of the show. ❤️
That moment, and seeing the Pegasus, makes you wish you were actually there. This is the epitome of immersion into a good story.
I weeped when the brought in Pegasus, and there was no internet leaks. I was old enough to have watched the old series, so to have the linage was just amazing.