How the EPA is Ruining Motorcycles - Honda Transalp Review
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"I dont mean to belittle 800 bucks, that's a week's groceries these days." 😂I laughed, but that hurt a little.
Don't worry, we built back better. For a select few anyway🙄
"It's Funny 'cause it's true!"
I also laugh a bit and then felt sorry.
About to double.
$6.15 fuel in my “neck of the woods”.
@@glenn-git wasn't even slightly humorous and not even slightly true... And honestly these "jokes" are wore out
"Hey!!! Has that ECU been modified?!!" - No cop ever.
California cops will actually ask about modifications and even require you pop the hood but few are knowledgeable enough to know anything about cars/bikes
@@Omar411269 which means you're just as likely to get a ticket with a cool stock car as a modified one.
My car with stock ECU and exhaust pops and gargles on deceleration, and I get hassled for it all the time.
*except in california
@@Omar411269 You don't have to "pop the hood". 5th amendment says you aren't obligated to assist in their investigation against you.
Come to Germany and find out 😉
My emotional despair at learning that Ryan is disappointed by my most anticipated bike is tempered by the fact that I can't afford to buy one. And that I don't have enough skill to be disappointed by it anyway.
good comment.
good comment.
good comment.
just buy an old one. they are still a blast
You nailed it. Same here. If I could afford it, I'd buy and wouldn't tell that it's underpowered or that it has a lower than expected curve.
I talked to my old KLR about this and she had never heard of the EPA.
Great video as usual.
Just as I was thinking "so, an ECU flash will fix it?" Ryan confirms it 😁
Yeah but it's illEEEEEgal!
More importantly, I assume it voids your warranty.
@@tsubadaikhan6332motorcycles typically only have 1 year warranty so its not that bad, I just wait the year and then flash it
@@reshpeckEverything that I want is illegal, nothing new here
But that's not the point. The point is that Honda had to nerf the bike due to outdated and nonintuitive regulations. Paying money for an ECU flash that makes the bike behave like it should have from the factory is a ripoff.
Thank you for making the ads entertaining. The Ducati joke at the end was worth the price of admission.
My '94 900SS feels unjustly targeted.
@@Surestick88 As does my '01 M900ie, but if I had to change the battery on 1200s I would feel extremely seen.
@@Surestick88 he's referring to his Desert X, which is another ADV bike with somewhat difficult air filter access.
@@dirkmohrmann8960We are aware.
The joke *you* missed is that a carby 900ss has an air filter that can be changed in minutes. Seat comes off with a key, prop up hinged tank with handy attached stand, and boom…..access to air filter box which is opened with a couple of screws.
This isn't just motorcycles. This is the entire motor vehicle industry as a whole.
"Why is this thing on cars bad?"
Probably because of the EPA.
@@kpenguin Don't think EU rules are any better. They have lots of crazy stuff too. Euro 7 emissions (currently on Euro 6e, which are quite tough already hence many cars are detuned in Europe compared to North America) will make it virtually impossible to sell any kind of combustion engine in a vehicle.
@@TassieLorenzo oh believe me, I don't. "Emissions" would be more accurate, but the EPA was in the video title.
Well, being a Transalp 600 owner in Europe I can say one thing. I truly DO appreciate the effort you put in getting a (I think) 1988 model. Great bike, I can tell you that!!
i am still regretting i sold my 600
Fantastic bike! And there's no replacement for the feel of that V-twin. Something about a 270 I2 just doesn't capture it. ~RF9
@@FortNine No but at least ride one with a full exhaust and ECU flash.
Old Transalp 600 is a legend 👍
Nice i have a XL600V in Green-Gold from 1992 60.000 kilometers :D
When I come to power I'm putting Ryan in charge of the entire DOT.
You have my vote
He's Canadian. Sure he wants to?
Sorry buddy, but he belongs to Europe.
@@VictoryHighBaller I doubt my coming to power will be through a democratic process 😂
@M4NA5 Europe will be a vassal state, so he will run that too.
Oh, a fortnine upload. Let me stop everything and watch it real quick.
Yep. Im cutting a lawn.
It can wait for 9 mins😂
Indeed
I was supposed to be in a meeting 😂😂😂
More like a Ryan Upload. I'll watch other videos as well but only stop everything if Ryan is presenting.
Random guy: "Ahh I´m bleeding out, please save me"
Paramedic: "Nuh uh, I´ll be with you in 9 mins"
Amazing to see the Transalp get some recognition. I've been riding my 93' all around Europe and it's been an absolute Blast. An amazing middle of everything you could wish for in a touring bike.
Same here. I started with a 1992 and still have my 2001 650. Despite its flaws, that 750 still looks appealing to me.
@@chrispaillous1064 Hoenstly I wouldn't sleep on the XL1000 varadero. Bought a 2002 nearly two weeks ago now and its such a similar bike to my 650. Such an agile bike for the size and the power increase (while not too stupid) is very enjoyable. Absolutely loving it
93'? That's a long bike!
@@hoghopper ooops, meant '92 bike. Never use inches here in Germany ;)
Every time, again and again I'm stumped at how good the writing is on these videos, well done
Bike tests would be so much better if they discussed how easy/difficult /time consuming basic maintenance tasks will be. Bravo for mentioning the air filter and showing the (as yet intact) sump.
My NC750 is the same. Takes about 40 minutes to change the air filter. Crazy
@@rockinrodlittleBut the NC isn't really made to go on adventures... I mean the name is Transalp not Africa twin but still. Adventure bikes can't be really that terrain specific IMO. It's just silly...
@@mrhenry7775 that’s true. Just find it a silly thing to have to take your bike apart to get to the air filter. Thankfully, some guy made a great TH-cam video for the NC to find the 18 screws/rivets you need to take off. I once had a cruiser that you popped the air filter cover off with a screwdriver. Took a minute to change the filter if you were lagging. Lol
@@rockinrodlittleon the BMW R 80 and R100 it is 60 seconds. No screwdriver needed. Remove the top of the airbox by opening the clips with your bare hands. Put new filter in and close the clips and off you go. NOTHING else has to be removed. Wanna go to the valves? Two screws to take the cover off and there you are. Loved those bikes😊
@@larifari4371 now you’re talking
Since there are other 90 hp bikes with similar sized engines that don't do this throttle reduction, the problem isn't the EPA's rule, it's Honda's decision to solve it this way instead of re-engineering the muffler to pass the sound test. Every problem mentioned in the video was a financial decision by Honda, either to protect Africa Twin sales or to save money by changing the throttle map table in the software instead of creating new hardware.
Yep. And the fueling sucks. It is surgy as hell on the low end, you know, where you are doing ADV riding. It was a crap decision by Honda.
Honda has changed in the past 5 years or so. I had a 2018 Cb650f and a 2019 africa twin, both brand new. The cb650 burned a surprising amount of oil and had huge dead spot in the power curve from about 5k to 7k. The africa twin would sputter and quit when riding in the mountains after sudden elevation changes. Occasionally, it sounded like it had terrible spark knock after a cold start as well. I switched to suzuki and yamaha and haven't looked back.
Thank you. This is a Honda problem
Reminds me of Canon cameras, back when I sold them: they had so many damn models they had to cull features from them just so they could differentiate them, even though it'd probably be easier just to put those same features in the lower model, what with economies of scale, et al. But no, they had to have a specific camera for every specific price point they could dream up. God forbid you Serious Amateur camera might step on the toes of the Semi-Professional camera.
Give it time and they'll all get to the same place, even though it isn't a place we want to be.
I’m so glad to see Ryan again! He’s half the half the reason I watch this channel.
Bought the original 1987 Transalp last summer and it still is a really capable machine! I'm trying to remove excess weight from it for some hardcore offroading this summer.
"I don't mean to belittle $800, that's a weeks groceries these days"..... I know ur Canadian but why u gotta go for the throat like that man.
I just paid more than $30 for a dozen of oranges...
@@billbauer9795 yeah, I spent $130 on bologna, cheese, bread, coffee & Gatorade. It's freaking ridiculous
Just spent $80 US on some chicken, mayo, vinegar, cheese, bananas and a few other small items. 3 years ago it would have been $45 or so. The US will see hyperinflation in the next 10 years or sooner at the current spending rates…which means money printing rates.
@@RARufus gunna wind up like Germany post WW1 where a loaf of bread is $100
@@ostmen_draugr
We pay 2$ for a loaf of bread in Sweden
And we’re pretty expensive in the European region
1:45 Don't forget to hook up your airbag Ryan :')
I know, for shame! Good eye. ~RF9
@@FortNine So you're serious about no more padded jackets...
but i don't see that shirt preventing much road rash. God's Son is back btw :)
@@FortNineRyan where’s the x4 associate discount/motorcycle kit???😢
There’s a link but no associated discount or moto kit
@@rosskstar That's a 600D Cordura shirt Ryan reviewed a white ago. He should be fine :)
@@TalinkoMontaro Things GOB Bluth Would Say for $500, Alex
Thank you for yet another deliciously facetious and entertaining video, full of truth and humour. Most of what you decry on the new Transalp is true of course, and reflects a bike that was 'built down to a price', although it seems North America got a lesser version of the model. Now at 13,300 kms here in Australia (on the white 90 hp version) I can add some economy details for non-owners. Firstly, the tank actually holds 18L if it is filled above the baffle plate, and an adequate 400 kms range is perfectly achievable. Worth knowing that there are 80 kms (50 miles) available after the last fuel bar starts flashing. The worrying sump extension? Yes, it's definitely a concern, but (as Dork in the Road illustrated) the T7 isn't all that much better. A solid bash-plate obviously necessary for rougher off-road work in both cases.
Your comparison with the delightful Aprilia Tuareg is worth mentioning in comparison with the Honda, and I test rode them both back to back, but in this country the Tuareg is virtually half as much again ($15,740 on-road compared to $22,500 for the Aprilia) although I understand the Tuareg has been discounted in some markets. But yes, the Aprilia is far more off-road-worthy, but loses out a little on long highway sections (and lack of dealerships). A valid observation that Aprilia don't have a larger 'flagship' adventure model to affect the price and specs of their middleweight, as against Honda's consideration of the Africa Twin in the specs of its 750.
But the Transalp is a better bike than it seemed at first, and I am enjoying mine more than I expected to. It is a valid offering for many riders, and combines surprisingly good road manners with the ability to head down any dirt roads that spike your curiosity. I have done about 2,500 kms on dirt roads so far, with many around here. Very easy to live with clutch operation and gearchange, and very comfortable on long days riding. Economy of 4L/100 kms or better. At just under 5' 10" I don't find the windscreen too bad. Of course the bike would have been better with an oil window and an ambient temperature gauge, and I would have preferred less of the electronics and 'rider modes' (I leave mine in Sport) but it is still a very useful model. I am about to attack the notorious air filter job, and fit a K & N, so wish me luck. Disconcerting that Honda do not inspect or clean the air filter at the 13,000 km service...
Thanks for the video - keep 'em coming!
It is interesting to me how much prices between manufacturers vary county-by-country, and also that models are tuned/detuned to meet each country's regulations. Thanks for making us aware of your situation.
It is indeed strange that in the US we can wait and wait for a model to get here, and then they don't give us the same model as everyone else - which usually results in lackluster sales and self-justifies the mfg's reluctance to bring it here.
I have a 2023 Transalp 750, rode it around 7000 km (4350 mi) by now. It is my first bike and I love it, easy to handle, comfy for a tall guy like me, reliable and its long transmission ratio enables relaxed touring on the roads which I enjoy.
The Transalp was never meant to be a hardcore offroad bike or a sports bike.
You made a good decision. The Transalp is my 6th and also my favorite. 👍
Most people buying adventure bikes don't ride off road, most don't ride them at high speeds.
The only negative points is the lack of cruise control and CB500X look. Other than that it's a great bike to commute, travel and tall riders
@@thepab3072mine has cruise. There’s a few companies making cruise control for the Transalp. 👌
@@brandenfwee Nice 🙂
Yes most are happy owners/very good reviews as well, Big Rock Moto was happy with it.
Tubed wheels is such a let down, new RE Himalayan 450 can be had with tubeless wheels if you want.
Before anyone asks how the ecu controls the throttle with a cable system... it uses a set of secondary throttles that are electronically controlled. This type of restriction is very common these days as is Aftermarket ecu tuning. This tuning will keep the throttle open wider, longer, adjust fuel, spark and void your warranty.
The flip side of that is, if its a japanese bike a warranty is a non issue. Their reliability is well proven.
@@spartanx169x Even if it goes bang you just flash it back to factory and they'll never know.
@@memitim171sorry but they can tell. The ecu has a flash counter so they know for example its been flashed 3 times. If their own register shows it should only been flashed once for a recall for example, you are screwed.
@@marcbibeau1416 Show of hands for everyone who's blown up a honda street/adv bike before the warranty was over... "crickets chirping".
yeap, but i can assure you that the dealership doesnt even know that the ECU is tuned. I had 3 bikes with a "stage 1" tune (no hardware modifications, just software) and did the first 2 years of services. They never told me anything. Even if the bike throws a check engine light, the software they use is a dyagnostic software, the dont look into the throttle, fuel, ignition maps (that is the only way they could notice it).
And no, in most ECU's there isnt a "flash counter", guess how i know? friend of mine had a z900 with a stage 2 tune, exhaust and all "the magic"... He blew it, flashed it back to stock, installed the original exhaust and the warranty service changed the engine without even a suspicion
So close to getting a motor cycle! Thanks Fortnine for the quality.
This channel is every level fun.
motojitsu channel content is your best friend... 😉
Good luck and be safe out there.
The original Transalp shown in the video is a great beginner bike, take it from me, I got one. Just make sure that you're tall enough.
Buy one. You won't regret it!
So close?? Why are you waiting? Can’t ride if you don’t have a bike or three
In a tiny second, you were riding the new gs… knowing how meticulously is every second of your video prepared i guess it was a real tease.
Bravo for this masterpiece review 👏🏻
You are pulling no punches. I LOVE your reviews. Excellent video as usual.
It’s surprising how entertaining and informing this channel is.
Don’t stop even though it’ll be impossible once you become bigger. Like a coy fish in the backyard, you’re a big fish in a little pond.
Can fish be coy?
Unless you meant the type of fish which would be "Koi"... :P
Bigger? Nearly 2 mil subs on a motorcycle channel, he's a damn 800 pound gorilla.
@@WanderingDad
He isn’t going to keep doing TH-cam for the rest of his life. He’s already starting to sub contract out the content on the channel.
@@karicallegra8194 There's definitely a 'Dad' joke in there.
Who else watches these videos religiously? I swear they never miss
I do and I dont even ride
It's pretty simple. I see F9 video. I click.
I've stopped since the armor shit take. They refused to correct something that obvious, it's more or less the third strike integrity wise, they're gone for me. I'm just here to downvote pretty much.
I watch the ones with Ryan. The ones without. Maybe, maybe not depending on the topic. I have zero interest in their bicycle videos.
The april 1rst one was a miss. Dude didn't even talk about crashes with under 50kn impact which pads prevent fractures in.
Yup, that's the same reason the ZX4RR is so neutered. Feels great now that I'm able to actually use full throttle throughout the rev range with an ecu flash thanks to TST.
And in a bike like the ZX4RR it is a crime that they would neuter it that way to begin with, and I understand that is definitely the EPAs influence. I have an old 400 Bandit with the inline 4 and 14K redline and plan to keep it forever. If Suzuki ever re-released an updated model of it, I'd expect it to need an ECU flash for it's true performance to be revealed as well. Have fun with that bike!!
Yeah you just HAVE to flash every motorcycle nowadays.
I have a powercommander on my mt07. It transformed my bike...that was already good. 💯
And some (most) bikes require the change if you swap out for 3rd party muffler anyway.
Cummins Diesel just got a $1.7 BILLION fine for selling fueling mods
I feel like the baked in ads in fortnine videos are the best. They don't feel like their just reading press material. Or they just do it for the money.
Great job guys.
Wow, you need to learn how the world works.
@@petebusch9069 I what meant was that they don't feel hollow.
@@vimdiesel All ads are bad because they all carry a certain amount of BS.
eeeefficient ads
Best yt channel since the invention of the wheel. Please make a full review of the old Honda Transalp 1987-94.
Best in-vid-ad I've seen, nice job. (your content is always first rate as well)
Funny timing. Just bought a 1998 XL600V for my dad this weekend.
If all goes well, we're going on a round trip through Europe this summer.
Pleasant surprise seeing an F9 vid on a weekday!
Even as a cyclist (I have a motorcycle, too), thank you for not posting another bicycle video. This is the type of content we subscribe for!
Amazing as always...we're ready for the V-Strom 800!
+1
Whatever setup you're using for a helmet microphone is nothing short of stellar
I still don’t understand the tubed tires in new adventure bikes.
The simple thought of having to bring around the tools to remove a wheel and the tire on the roadside is enough to make me loose interest in the whole bike, no matter the brand or the price.
And i didn’t even take safety in consideration.
Suzuki literally had tubeless spoked rims for the vstrom 650 and still released the more expensive vstrom 800 with tubed tires.
Why.
There are certain failure modes where a tubed tire can be fixed trailside and a tubeless can't, such as sidewall damage.
However, a fraction of a fraction of percent of riders will ride on terrain where that is both a probable failure and a recovery vehicle won't reachz
It is mystery. But usually things can be explained by profit margin.
@@_ZaidAnd I believe that most of the tubeless believers dont know what it is like to try to reseat your tire with hand pump or that cheap battery inflator from alibaba in the middle of nowhere. Sometimes and with some tires it is easy, sometimes pain in the *ss. That is why I carry pretty much same tools including spare tube for such problems even when riding with tubeless tires. I just swap tube patches for tubeless repair kit. Maybe could be fine with less tools but I like to ride remote places solo
@@Anuskrebs Still, thanks to the tubeless rims, you can choose.
With the tube rims of my T7 i couldn’t
@@Anuskrebs If you are that deep in hardcore nowhere, you ain't on a Transalp or Vstrom or similar touring bike.
Right tool for the job.
And tubeless won't risk a blow out at highway speeds and throw you under a truck.
I purposely watch the entire ads on a F9 video without skipping to make sure this absolute masterpiece of a channel keeps going for years to come.
Nice to see an f9 video on the Transalp on the same day my 87 clocked 100,000km for the first time. Who needs to buy a new one when the originals run forever
I felt like I just learned so much in 9 1/2 minutes. Ryan, you truly are one of the best motorcycle channels, if not one of the best channels overall on YT. I could only hope and dream to produce 1/8 the level of quality content that you do on day! Keep grinding, and shiny side up man! -Mark 😎🤙
Thank you for doing this research. Digging into the details of the EPA ruling helps me understand this a lot better.
The epa should be abolished
I've been waiting for the 4x. Not to buy it myself, but to see new funky clips
respect for the fact that you did a smooth sponsor transition with a progress bar, i didn't skip it, even though i'm a gopro fan :))
It was great to ride where this video took place! I made my first trip into Canada and spent a day and night riding around Vancouver on my 23 1250GSA. Such a beautiful place
FortNine literally never misses 🙌 Incredible stuff...X4's 8K looks pretty damn good if we say so ourselves 😏
Hey Ryan, we met at the S2S Adventure Motorcycle Show. you are more than welcome to have fun with my Tuareg ;)
The graphics and editing on this channel always amazes me!
Always excited to see Ryan in a long form video.
I think honda is well balanced with price and functionality. I've traveled around Europe and Scandinavia on a motorbike,
and I've never worried about the lack of a cruise control or a color display, etc.
I guess I'm starting to be an old and old-school biker, and I don't always understand younger people's desire for extra electronics. When I was younger,
I was looking for a feeling of freedom and speed, and I didn't need color lights in the bike display any more than in the mirrors.
few months ago i decided to get a bike for touring. the things i looked out for
1. indestructible engine
2. as few electronics as possible to avoid problems
3. take luggage like a mule
the options were 2
v-storm
varadero
i got a varadero with ohlins suspensions. all i need to do is upgrade the brakes to brembo pads and pump and put steel pipes. i can travel the world without worries
How do you travel though? Because for the sometimes unavoidable miles on the long straight motorways, cruise control is very welcome.
@firefox3249 theres an option on gps to avoid tolls and highways.
the trip is where the fun is. not the destination 😁
but if you do need cruise control there are manual gadgets you can put that keep the throttle stable. throttle locks and other , there are plenty of options
ps. also with that bike i dont mind going offroad
@@firefox3249 my reaction - Old Man 72 y - what???? all poesies this day's ???
@@firefox3249 I try to avoid highway If possible. I dont say i would not never use cruise If i had but i fine without. On the motorbike it is important to keep your eyes open and stay sharp. Day dreaming is dangerous, too many car driver text when they drive, etc.
Another great video, thanks. What you say is all true, the Tuareg is great machine, but the problem is in Aprilla's dealer network. It's very sparse compared with the likes of Honda, Yamaha, KTM and so on. Last month when looking through Craigslist I found three new Tuaregs (2023) for sale from the local dealer. And they were being discounted. My biggest shock was that we still had an Aprilla dealer nearby. I thought it went out of business years ago. On the other hand, I couldn't find a Transalp in stock at any of the dealers near me. In fact, when I questioned one of them about the Transalp he informed me that they sell as soon as they come in.
I bought the Tuareg a year ago. I find it amusing that people will hesitate or avoid buying the Tuareg because of problems they heard about 20 or 30 years ago. Freddie Dobbs own a Triumph Bonneville. Last year he needed a gasket set to reassemble his engine. He had to wait over 7 months for his gasket. A British bike, owned by a Brit, in Britain needed a simple common part but there were none in the world. Most people who buy the Tuareg are 100% thrilled with their decision.
glad your back to bike reviews
I have a '94 Transalp and i love it. Did a 5000km tour last summer.
Yesss, finally the XL750 Transalp review! I used to have an XL600v in black like that.. sold it last year 😢
It would be interesting to see a video about the "New" V-strom 1050 as he used to own 1000 before 🤔
If your interested in my experience I have put 41k miles on my vstrom 1050 since 2022. Hard offroad hillclimbs and crossed the PA adventure trail and PA wilds bdr 2 up the whole time
Fantastic bike. Truly the best I've ever owned
I've had my TA for a couple of months. It's my first bike in 40 years. The last being a 80' CB750F and a '78 KZ1R. I love my TA. More power than I will EVER need. Twisties galore. I'm in the NE, so I'm waiting for summer before I get out on the trails.
Indian River Drive. What a road to cruise a bike on. Love the switch backs at the end.
“An Africa Twin that was abused as a child”. This is why I watch Ryan’s videos
Hey Ryan, your channel inspired me to get back into riding - you are a master of your craft. And after doing a lot of research 6 months ago, I went and bought a '24 Transalp.🤣 I can't say I disagree with your arguments here, especially regarding the EPA, and Honda holding back features - very frustrating especially as a 'Murican with a $10K bike budget. But I think some folks miss the point of this bike, and it all depends on how you frame it in relation to the competition. It was never meant to be the best tourer, or the best dirt bike, or the best street bike, but it was meant to do all three competently, with a slight emphasis on street over dirt. By singling out its least desirable characteristics (which may be make or break to some, but I don't need cruise control or 1 extra inch of ground clearance) and then comparing it to bikes which do that one thing better, but then leaving out the other things they don't do as well, I think you might have done a disservice to what is an excellent all-around bike, one that doesn't try to occupy extremes, and one that capably can handle most of what a moderately experienced rider like myself is able to throw at it. I think the vast majority of riders out there considering this bike would have an absolute blast with it for a very long time, and would also enjoy the extra $2,300 they would have spent on that Aprilia, which does look pretty awesome, don't get me wrong!
Congrats on getting back into riding! You're absolutely right - the Transalp does many things capably. And at Honda's level of reliability and affordability, it's a motorcycle that most people can have a blast on for decades to come. I tend to be a bastard when writing these videos, because all motorcycles are fun and it's hard to rank them without using a very sharp razor. On the plus side, there a very compelling reason to buy this bike over the competition at 90hp. Flash your ECU!! ~RF9
@@FortNine Ha, fair enough! Just want to say, genuinely, thank you for what you're doing for motorcycling as a whole. Really great to see people from all walks (esp. non-riders) getting interested because of the quality of your videos - I see many parallels in your channel, to what Top Gear did to elevate car enthusiasm - although it's great that you have much more of an empirical focus using data and studies to bolster the message. Looking forward to what's next!
Those bike shadow edits at 0:48 are slick. Great video as always!
I’ve added electronic cruise to mine and it does make a big difference. Love it. Also it’s true a lot has to come off the change the air filter but the dash isn’t part of it. The tank easily slips past the dash plastics as you tilt it back 👌.
Oh my, a good reason to be a European (well a brit) its a great bike here
Hope to see you back at the ABR festival again
so the same air filter removal set up as my 89 Nx250. Never change Honda, never change...
Just got an 89 nx250 last month, it's the best! :)
@@TosterCx just be careful with the plastics.
@@ngrgdrpr yeah, was planning to fit the chinese replica ax1 plastics since I frequent the woods a lot but the headlight/neck seem to be a bit different - still have to think on it
@@ngrgdrpr All honda bikes need one thing and that is aftermarket bash plate
They even removed it from CBX (they came stock pre-2019), its infuriating
The airfilter bit reminded me a little too much about doing anything on the NX650. Side covers, seat, fairing, tank. You'd never think a jet swap on a thumper would take 90 minutes...
If I ever buy another bike I'm going to be so pissed off when doing any maintenance. Signed, R100GS.
we missed you in these kind of videos more please
Glad to see ya back Ryan!
I hate to see Ryan dunking on my next bike!
But as always his criticisms are valid. My takeaway from this video:
step 1: Take that extra $800 in savings and throw them towards the optional skid plate and crash bars to mitigate the oil sump issue.
step2: Flash the ECU to achieve proper peak power.
If you plan on riding 80% road and 20% light dirt as I plan on doing, then it's still the best bike for the money imo.
Lol, comparing it to the Tuareg... In Australia the Transalp cost 15899 ride away. The Tuareg cost 23999
Unless you have just a spare 8 grand laying around, there's *no* comparison
I feel you. I have 2 test rides scheduled for the transalp this week. I appreciate the review though, and I’m only more decided to do an ECU flash than I was yesterday :)
@@zacyt2425I test rode it already. I was blown away by how well it handled on the road and how comfortable it was in the saddle. That engine is a lot of fun!
@@CJTheRealIn the US it's only a $2000 difference. Significant, yes. But still close enough to warrant a peer comparison. A new 2024 Tuareg 660 can be had for $12000 here.
Going a bit further, you can get new 2022 and even 2023s for $11k. At least around me. I guess people are scared of brand/ dealership network so there is left over stock
I bought a Transalp last fall in Canada and I agree with most of your observations. The power of the engine is way more than I need and the gearing is very good which gives you around 4000 rpms at 115 kmph. My only complaint with the fueling is the jerkiness at low speeds. The Metzler Karoo Streets are probably the noisiest tires I've ever had on a motorcycle, I am hoping they calm down as they wear. I never sweated the Tube Tires until I started hearing all the negative comments. I have been riding over 40 years and have yet to get a flat....touch wood.
Glad to hear from an owner! The only time I've had flats on the trail, it's because I've been a numpty and deflated my tires too much. Nowadays I never drop psi, and I haven't had a flat since. ~RF9
Ryan always coming out with good info just as I need it! Outgrew the power of my starter bike, and was really drawn to the transalp and tenere as two possibilities for the second bike, and the transalp was everything I wanted except the stunted power. However, knowing that a cheeky ECU flash will remedy that situation, well, I think I need me a transalp
Glad Ryan is back!!!
I own a 2024 transalp in the states and feel like it does everything as advertised at a great price. The oil sump is weird and the exhaust routing is questionable so I did have to get a skid plate to feel safe off road but overall love the bike great commuter and weekend warrior.
the only thing particularly remarkable about this bike is that it has a honda badge.
Oh my, I'm here on time for a fortnine drop, the roads will bless my tyres today.
LOL, Ryan literally is such a boss. Killing it as always my friend!
Finally a new review. We missed them... a lot!
I was in France last week and tried the new hornet there. The engine has no top end either. Everything happens between 4000 and 6500 rpm, then meh till redline. Very disapointing for a streetbike but i think it would be great for a trail bike.
Yes! I test road Trasnalp twice in Europe (once in UK, once in LT). I never understood people saying that engine is fun. Yes, it has some power, but it's boring, feels like nothing is happening, despite you can see speed going up. There's nothing extra at top end, I guess American market version even worse, but European still don't have a proper top end.
I ended up with Tiger 900. I wanted to have Honda, I really did, but it was just not meant to be.
I think the 2nd or 3rd generation of Transalp will hopefully address most of the issues: like cruise control, tubeless, poor suspension.
I own a hornet 750 for a few months now, but i plan on selling it soon... the engine is fun for a short while but it engine brakes way too hard
Babe wake up, new F9 just dropped
Thank you! You’ve vindicated my argument. I’ve caught so much flack from some in the motorcycle community on another platform when I questioned why the Transalp doesn’t have cruise control. This is exactly what I thought, it’s supposed to be a middle weight continental cruiser that can take any path, so why not include cruise control.
As always, good stuff. You're catching up to Itchy Boots with subscribers. Well done.
Wow, that's why you were sitting on top of all the tech reviewers in my subscriptions! Nice spot!
Are Euro spec bikes restricted for import by individuals in North America?
Great question! In Canada you can import a European bike as long as you get it inspected. A few of my friends have done it, and judging from their stories, it's extremely unlikely that the inspector would catch the difference. ~RF9
I even watched the ad. Thank you for being the best motorcycle stuff on the internet.
Good to see back😊. I almost gave up on FortNine.
I love fortnine videos and want to see more of them!
in Europe, despite the greater power, the engine also seems sluggish. the situation is different with the Suzuki 800de, much more vigor. the Suzuki product seems more refined, lively engine, good suspension, traction control works in offroad (it doesn't work well in Honda gravel mode), detachable subframe, easy access to the air filter. I'm waiting for the test
Could you please explain to me like a toddler please what Ryan is trying to say? The point seems to be getting lost on me, a non native English speaker, I'm guessing due to his overuse of innuendos. Is he trying to tell us that the North American version of the Transalp's power delivery turns flacid at peak rpm levels due to the way regulations work there?
I'd guess an ECU remap is going to benefit any new bike anywhere because of the regulations put on emissions/noise etc. Probably also physically delete some of the green crap that manufacturers have to put in, but that might get detected in Europe during the mandatory vehicle inspections every few years.
Because the 800DE is just better than the Talp.
@@udit8536 The Transalp in the USA has fewer horses than in Europe. But this doesn't change much, because tests of the European version confirm that this engine is not perceived as powerful. I've seen honda vs suzuki torque charts and the 800de has much more torque through the mid rev range - that's why you feel it's more powerful
THIS is what we missed. No clickbait, no e-bikes, and a presenter that actually has an iota of charisma. Welcome back, F9✌️🏍
As a Triumph Tiger 850 owner.. I also have to say that airbox maintenance procedure sounds dreamy.. I gotta remove the crash bars and mostly the front fairing to get the tank off to get to my airbox.. I should get around to doing that.. someday.
For those of you interested there is an aftermarket cruise control for the trans Alp. Also they make a really nice bash plate for the bottom to protect that sump. I was really thinking about getting one of these and I still kind of am but for my needs The top trim level Africa twin seems to be a better fit for me.
I'm so happy to be living in the EU. And I'm sorry for all the people that only get the weaker version. I hope you can still enjoy it 😊
Everyone flashes their bikes. There is an entire industry for it. $400 is the average. IF IF you want more from the bike than factory.
@@spartanx169x good to hear that there are options 😊
My dad had an 89 transalp. Red, white, blue. 100k miles. Comfortable. Reliable. Beautiful. Great sound. I WAS excited about the new one. What a disappointment.
If one Canadians random opinion is all it takes to sway you. You are in for a rough time
@@CaptLawrence Im going off of more than one opinion. I've been around bikes all my life. I hate neutered down USA market EPA bikes. 270 degree twins are lame and boring and lack original thought. Most new Japanese duel sports are parts bin cost cutting specials used to entice novice riders into thinking that buying the bike will turn their trip to target into a transcontinental expedition. A new transalp doesn't hold a candle to an old one let alone a husky 701, moto morini camel, r100gs, guzzi quota, v65tt, cagiva ala rossa, or a cagiva elephant.
@user-sw5ne9by2h well, of course, you're entitled to your opinion, but in my experience if you think a moto morini or similar Chinese product is on par with a transalp. Well we differ. As I said I have no interest in the transalp but moaning over legislation the government's of our countries put in place doesn't change anything votes do. I for one think the honda is superior to everything you listed new springs and a flash to the ecu and your gonna out perform all the products you suggested except for the 701 and being a ktm that will never last.
These videos are always a breath of fresh air
So are your tuners! Thanks for unlocking our toys for us. ~RF9
Enjoy the breaths while they are still fresh, I suppose
"itd be like if honda styled the new NSX after the civic" wait, it kinda does just look like that.
Nice work Ryan. Your videos lately are connecting the dots of how overblown bureaucracy is ruining everyday life. Careful how far you go down that road….
More like strawberry cringe studios
@@TheRealSykxBrace yourself to do some cringeworthy things when you have kids.
Just changed air filter on my Tuareg… 5 minutes flat. Kudos to the Aprilia design team. (My last such ease of change was on my DRZ400.)
Nice thing about 8k is when I watch on TH-cam at 480p (bandwidth issues) it still looks good.👍
Is Ryan riding the BMW 1300GS in the sponsor segment? 🧐 😉
Shhhh.
Does remember those days when fortnine was a serious chanel about motorcycling...transalp is an amazing bike not like the ktm that pays you whitch breaks every month...its a PRIVILEDGE you can have the honda on thi price
FortNine's videos always make me kinda want to live in Canada.
For 28 Years I loved my 89 TransAlp XL600V, then I becaome old and switched to an NC750. A bonus from the XL600V was my selling it in 2017 for more than I paid for it in 1989.
The Transalp would be a great companion to my CRF Rally. Got to love Honda reliability for Adventure riding 😎👍
I love my 24 Transalp I don’t care how much everyone else complains about it. It’s an awesome bike it’s really good on the road and comfortable
almost every modern bike "does the job". the only special thing about this one is that it has a honda badge. by the time you equip it properly it's more expensive than the competition and still slightly worse at being an adventure bike.
I see what you are doing here now. You've been quiet for a while. Now, releasing a video about not needing armor that gets tons of attention, and then more videos almost every day is sure to hack the algorithm to your benefit. Well done.
Hey Ryan don’t forget that your Fjällräven pants have lifetime repair, just take them to any store and they will full on replace if it’s a stretch fabric tear
Ah thanks for the heads up! Those ones are 3 years old and show no sign of damage yet :) ~RF9
If that oil sump was any lower, I could till my garden with it.