Hey Eric I’m the guy who dropped that 3.7l off my names Bob it came outta a 2002 ram 1500 I bought the truck about 3 years ago drove it for one the first day I got it and changed the oil it was sparkling and had only a quart in it so I filled and sent it for a year til it started knocking real bad I parked it for two years then a couple months ago I dragged out fired her up and blew it up then emailed your team to see if yall wanted it the explosion is on my channel in the shorts
Hey Bob! I knew the neglect wasn’t yours, but I never got the story! Thanks for the donation, everyone should go watch this thing make its final revolution!
Thanks for the details Bob and sorry for the misfortune. It's very disappointing to buy a used vehicle and discover what you did after the sale. Many of us have. Cheers!
I had a 3.7 that when i got rid of it had 220k miles on it. Still ran great. Frequent oil changes. Only replaced 1 water pump, and 1 fuel injector in 220k miles. Was solid for me
@@michaelschweizer4772 Same here, had an 03 Liberty Limited that our Niece still drives with well over 200K and my MIL has an 03 Libby 3.7 going on 300K. Neither ever had any engine or even trans issues. The key is maintenance and not just oil changes. If you neglect the coolant you'll eventually have HG issues and if you overheat them you will have HG issues and possibly drop a valve or two. If you keep them cool and lubricated, they can run for a very long time without major repairs.
17 avg mpg x 5 qt x 50 = 4250 mi Conventional 4,000 mi OCI 17 avg mpg x 5 qt x 75 = 6375 mi Synthetic 6,000 mi OCI I used that formula with the 4.7L V8 version and am at 310,000 mi and counting.
There is a waitress at a restaurant near me named Liberty. I admit I have caller her Liberty Biberty before. She said it happens pretty regularly since that commercial came out!
I own one of these in a 2004 Jeep Liberty. So far it's at 140K with zero major issues. It likes to burn through oil, so I never have a chance to forget to change the oil. It's not amazing when it comes to efficiency, but it's an old Jeep, so I'm not surprised. For what it is this is a surprisingly decent engine. Sure, it isn't very powerful (210 HP, 235 lb-ft), but that's fine for me. In a vehicle the size of the KJ Liberty I don't see the need for much more power. At one point my coolant reservoir decided to dump coolant onto one of the spark plugs. The engine was still running despite one cylinder being full of coolant. Changed the plugs, fixed the coolant leak (broken inlet on the plastic reservoir), and it's been running perfectly ever since. As long as these engines aren't overheated they tend to last a good long while.
Yeah that oil burning is going to become a bigger problem for everyone in a ICE vehicle as time goes on. they are using thinner rings to reduce friction to get better mileage out of the cars. Those rings start letting oil slip at around 100k miles. It's considered "normal" by the manufacturers. I miss good ol cast rings.
I think a teardown of a four-stroke outboard motor would be an interesting video for your channel. It would have a lot of different architecture in the motor from being mounted in vertical position.
If your math from the beginning of the video holds true this 3.1 litre V5 should still be good for 205 horsepower, and be about 16.66667% more reliable.
Here's a little more math that's a bit confusing. The 3.7L V-6 is one liter short of its 4.7L V-8 sibling. Seeing that the only difference is two cylinders, each cylinder would be .5 liters. Eight times .5L comes to 4.0L. Where did the extra .7L go?
@@davinlaroche3029 It's in the rods. That is what a stroker is. Their is two ways to increase displacement. Change the diameter of the cylinder or adjust the rod (to be more precise you change the crank and the rods but you know....) length.
As an Australian, I take offence. Well, no I dont. Im actually embarrassed by our entrant and firmly believe that if Eric entered the break dance competition he would have easily beat "Raygun"
Our 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 with the 4.7l lasted for well over 300,000 miles with just minor maintenance, It did meet its demise though because of a Radiator hose decided to burst on the way back from my Wife Dad's funeral. I pulled over immediately when I saw the fluid coming up on the windshield, replaced the hose and 4 gallons of antifreeze later, I fired it up and it bellowed white smoke from the exhaust. I would pull over occasionally and top off the coolant recovery tank and it got us home 65 miles.
@@samarch2189 A little of everything by the time We drove it back home 65 miles and it was burning coolant faster than you could add it. I parked it for 3 years and eventually sold it for $4k. I cannot complain it got us home even wounded.
@@chevydmax237 I could've but I had my 99 and plus I didn't need a Full Size truck anymore. I racked up the miles on driving all over Texas doing Fiber Optic Jobs. One of these days I will buy myself a new truck but I am content driving a easier to maintain 5.2l in my Dakota.
Had the 3.9 V6 Dodge Ram. Loved that engine with a 5 speed manual. Had to trade it in for an automatic truck. I loved that truck. Thanks for letting me see what Dodge messed up my 3.9 with.
Eric, watching your videos is a great, entertaining way to learn which engines to avoid and why. It's a true shame that so many vehicle owners flat out ignore basic maintenance and also never check their oil! After owning many GM vehicles from the 1980's to mid 2000's- none of which ever used more than a quart of oil in 3,000 miles, buying a new 2009 Subaru Forester with the EJ 2.5 was an eye opener. First quart used in 2,000 miles. Second quart in 1500 miles later and nearly a quart low at oil change time, 5,000 miles. It was consistent with this pattern through 73,000 miles when I traded it in. I hope the person who bought it checked the oil....
I've got a '08 Commander w/4.7L, 243k miles and an '08 Liberty w/3.7L, 214k miles. Both have been excellent, but I change oil every 5k miles and actually take care of my vehicles. Only maintenance have been 2 radiators on each and the a couple water pumps. Liberty likely has a small head gasket leak now...but it just keeps running. They owe me nothing and I'd buy another 08/09 Commander with the 4.7L if I could find a mint one.
We have a 2009 Jeep Liberty and have almost 210,000 miles on it. So far we haven’t had any major engine problems but it’s definitely feeling its age. The engine surprisingly still feels strong but is burning more oil than it should. I’ve replaced the lifters and rocker arms along with valve cover gaskets and done regular maintenance over the last ten years of owning it. While not a performance machine it has certainly exceeded my expectations.
12 years ago, my Mrs. bought a Jeep Liberty with this engine; 150k miles, 4WD - 45RFE trans. She paid $500 (five hundred) as her better friend wanted it gone. Needed full tune up, valve cover gaskets and a radiator. I use cheap 100% synthetic and an even cheaper filter. 238K miles, still strong runner and after 6k miles, maybe a 1/2 quart low on a change. The only major work needed was at 156K miles when my teenage daughter felt it OK to ignore the claxons, CEL, and temp gauge in the red-red after the water pump DOAed. She drove it about 15 miles all the way home with a most terrific clatter, steam and smoke pouring out. Replaced right side head, new timing kit, gaskets, and I found a "good used" pump that a local scrap dealer had in a large cardboard box full of "good used" pumps! Else, original engine, original trans....nothing but fluid changes and rubber parts. Even has cold AC!
I have a 2003 liberty with this 3.7l, and it has 370k miles. Bought it used with an unknown blown head gasket that I didn't discover until 2 years later when the radiator failed, and apparently, I flushed all of the stop leak out ( the dealership graciously put in for our benefit unbeknownst to me) when I replaced the cooling system.With lots of maintenance and repairs it's still going strong. It wouldn't have been worth it; though, had I not done all of the repairs myself...
I have learned so much about how engines work by watching your channel. I have also learned how engines fail and the clues to knowing what failed. Mostly I have learned that oil changes make a huge difference.
Thanks for the Saturday night entertainment Eric. And to the mystery donor, thanks for donating the engine so we could see the malice in the combustion palace.
Friend bought a Cherokee with one of these engines, had blown head gaskets. Engine was over 300k, had synthetic oil all it's life (plus regular oil changes). Engine looked like new inside. I enjoyed watching someone else take one of these apart, so much fun.
I had one of these in a 2008 grand cherokee. I beat the piss put of it and it took everything for over 50k miles 😂....but yes. Maintaining it is key and NOT over heating it is key.
Had one of these in a Liberty I picked up for cheap a few years ago. It threw rocker arms on a regular basis, I finally put little washers as shims under the lifters to tighten up the tolerances. The Jeep ran great after that, ended up giving it to one of my nieces for her high school graduation.
As a owner of a 212k, 3.7l Dakota, I can tell you it is not the engine I worry about, it's the drivetrain! Engine runs like a watch, no missing fluids and great response and mileage. Already did the U-joints due to clunk, carrier bearing, rear wheel bearings and a pinion seal. I also had to adjust my pinion bearing preload during this servicing. Now as we get to the transmission that is where my trust wavers a little... the 42RE isn't outright bad but not the best thought out. The "adaptive shift" plus the "shock-absorbing" torque converter thing causes more harsh shifts than it seems to help during those times it was intended for. Tows okay.. We'll see how long it survives, but I know the engine has another 100k easy. "oil is cheap, engines are not!"...
Hi Eric, Thanks for this teardown! I have a 2005 Jeep Libby 3.7 V6 with about 80K miles. fun to see what all is going on inside! (beautiful timing system... no wet belts!) luv my Jeep. Oil change just moved up on my todo list. 😀 Keep up the great work!
Eric, you should collect the broken pieces out of blown engines and sell them in display cases for the viewers to buy from their favourite teardowns! Love the videos keep them up 🤟
I would love to see you tear down a 2.4 SRT4 that came in the 2003 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT with the aluminum intake. If you can get your hands on one. Great video as usual.
My buddy had a 2007 Ram 1500 with one of these in it. He and I worked on that truck quite a bit, and while a lot of other things broke (including the dipstick tube, a real pain in the ass as you saw), two things we never had to touch were the engine and transmission. They both still worked well at nearly 200,000 miles when he got rid of the truck. I can't call it a bad engine, but that's just my experience.
Got a 2004 Jeep liberty with this engine. Has 178K miles and still running strong. On a second transmission and a few value cover gaskets replaced and O2 sensor. Had it over 10 years, only gets high milage full synth. Keeps humming along.
Hello Eric, I think you do a great job little dry humor, and fun while you work. In this video, I see you removing a valve cover and seeing a lot of sludge you don’t know what sludge is back in the 50s. I would be taken apart for my father With overhead valves and when you remove the valve cover was actually full of sludge except for the grooves where the rock Arms made their own path. These valve covers felt like they weigh 10 pounds. This is before high detergent oils. Just thought this might give you a chuckle.
I got a 4.7 powertec V8 with 294,447 miles on the odometer. Still running strong enough to smoke the tires. It's by no means the Magnum 5.9 in my 1999 Dakota RT but it does have decent power in it does move pretty well and gets crap gas mileage. I can't complain only thing I've ever done is change of water pump spark plugs and a battery still has the original serpentine belt on it
I owned a 2003 Jeep Liberty Renegade with a 5-Speed and that 3.7L "Minivan motor". I had that Jeep for over 10 years and 163,000 miles. Still my favorite vehicle ever. For the record, I never had to replace a window regulator or a LBJ!
2002 Liberty, about 180K miles. HAVE replaced all the window regulators AND a left lower ball joint AND right upper ball joint/control arm. Still think it hasn't been bad. Keep oil in it.
Have seen myself that the 4.7 and 3.7 are not really that bad, but they will NOT accept several items. 1. Clean oil, end of story on this item. 2. Heat, if you get either hot, you are in technical terms "FUCKED". If you start getting crank and cam position error codes, simply change the timing chains sprockets and tensioners. I have a 4.7 and changed the cam chain system by myself in under 8 hours by myself, and could have knocked off a couple of hours if I stayed out of the coffee pot, sorry am retired Navy and coffee is a MUST. Sorry these engines are far from powerful, but if you take care of them properly they will last fine.
@@user-pgchargerse71 My 4.7 barely breached its head gasket because it took a rock through the radiator and I didn't notice in time. I drove it for years without realizing it. As it aged I realized revving over 4K for very long would blow a hose from combustion pressure getting into the cooling system. It never overheated again and barely consumed any coolant (steam out the tailpipe when cold and then it would stop). I finally replaced it with one I built from a set of reconditioned block, crank & heads at 190,519 miles. It was over a decade with a leaky head gasket and the first half of that didn't give any symptoms for me to notice.
@@user-pgchargerse71 Some people have all the luck, not me however. The only lottery I have ever won was the draft lottery. Have performed regular upkeep and have 180k miles so far.
Yeah my friend had a 4.7 in a Durango. It had a blown head, so we bought some head gasket sealer from autozone to hold him over until he could find another one. It only lasted a few months, but thankfully he found an OBS Tahoe.
I love and still have mine. I did go through an extreme overheat mishap. Crap chinese water pump failed. On the hwy 112degs on a thursday. BUT! Motor at around 250,000miles. Frame at 330,000. I continued driving it to clear the ramp. Let it cool. Drove it again off and on to get a clear location for tow pickup..damage on the heads was def done. Did not drop a seat miraculously. Replaced pump on the road And still hauled a rock trailer and managed to drive back the same weekend after the job was done. 3 hr drive same heat. Had to stop in between due to pressure build up in the coolant system. Made it 2 more days on tuesday the pressure was too great cracked the plastic radiator. Went and got new heads on same motor...and im back on the road...with a billet all metal water pump this time. 😎. Not the funnest to take apart not at all. Vs the ohv of a 5.3 is a breeze. Mule of a package in a moderate compact frame tho and not a mall shopper.
I find it hilarious that people get upset over chunking the water pumps in the trash. No intelligent person would reuse a water pump and risk it being the failure point of an engine rebuild when they aren't that expensive and make as much sense as replacing the thermostat while you're in there. When I rebuilt my 04 Passat's 1.8T AWM engine, I replaced everything I could afford to replace and all must change items like tensioners etc. Turbo, all wheel drive 4Motion and 5 speed manual are a fun combo.
I've been using Autolite Spark plugs for years and have never had any problems whatsoever. They are damn good plugs in my experience. Not a single plug failure in over 35 years of building vehicles from big 4x4s to drag boats and everything in between.
I've never had problems with their copper series ( read regular plugs) but I have had some Fords that wouldn't run right unless the OE spec replacements were installed.
I'm selling my 3.7 Liberty Biberty right now actually, ironically the engine is the only part that never gave me issues... just everything around it. Always wondered what they looked like on the inside. Certainly one of the MOPARs of all time
The 3.9 V6 that preceded this engine was a much better and more reliable engine, and the 5.2/318 V8 that it was derived from was a much better engine than the 4.7 V8 that this 3.7 was derived from.
I had a 3.7 jeep that had 240,000 on it when I sold it. Currently driving a 4.7 Durango with 290,000. They're like anything else, all depends on how you care for em.
You seem to be a bit of a clucks dropping everything! Its very entertaining. I am a retired mechanic who worked at Jeep for 11 yrs. If you did the basic service these motors would do pretty good!
I have a 3.7 in an '08 grand Cherokee, and it has 250K miles on it, and the only thing I have done to it other than regular maintenance, is a water pump (gasket was leaking) and a crank position sensor... thing runs like new and I wouldn't think twice about driving it to the west coast and back from the midwest.
Look how clean the outside of the block is!! I learned 20 years ago, buying a junk yard motor, that was oily and dirty, wasn’t over heated. Over heated engines, the oil and grease is cooked off, the exterior of the engine. May be nonsense, but, I’d rather fix oil leaks, before installing a used engine, than one that requires machine work. Cause of warped parts.
Ahhh I wish I knew that a few months ago. Got a "good deal" on a low mileage "running" engine that ended up having a very blown head gasket. Coolant pooled in one of the cylinders and rusted the bore. .20 over, freshly decked and new heads. Runs great now
Hmm, what I miss is a close inspection of the rod bolts. They could have told you if there were signes of fatique. The engine was indeed poorly maintaned, but,to me, it did not fail to oil starvation. I think most people are interested in the a thorough cause and effect analyses and so a clear construction of the destruction-movie.
i have A jeep with the 4.7l, and when we got it, it was taken care of poorly and was really sludgy. not as bad as this, but it was really varnished. had to doctor it up to 149k mi when it dropped a valve seat in the driveway. (it did so rather peacefully and did it on a friday...letting me figure out plans to get it to a shop) the whole jeep in general was mechanically taken care of like crap by the prev owner (every fluid stunk and was eithr burned or WAAAY too dark) so..its hard to blame it. ive put a new motor in it now, and its mostly on offroading duty. but in that aspect its been great. nice and torquey, never have had overheating issues..and its worth the silly looks i get on the trail when i'm with a bunch of wranglers
5:35 Still not as bad as an old 305 or an ancient Ford 300 (or just about any engine from that period for that matter) that had asphalt for oil. Usually they even came with their own aftermarket sludge crank scrapers and windage tray, which was for the better as the thing only held a quart or maybe two on a good day when you could drain it.
I certainly don't recall oil being that bad, but by the time I began to drive, we are talking the early 80's and oil was not nearly that bad by then. Yes, drove a '74 Nova with the 250, a 78 with the 305, a 78 Fairmont with the 300 and my first car was a '68 Newport, 383 and torqueflight no less. Don't recall sludgy engines in any of them. All of these were used and at least a decade old when I got them. Then went subcompact with an '83 Honda Civic 1500 DX hatchback, an 88 Honda Accord with the 2.0L 4, then a 92 Ranger with the 4.0L V6 and currently an '03 Mazda P5 wagon with 200K fast approaching and it still runs moderately strong.
@@johnhpalmer6098 The older non-synthetic bases were not very stable. If you changed it religiously every 2000-3000 miles they did ok, but most people didn’t and some of these engines would still go for hundreds of thousands of miles like that. I had an old 305 I took apart that was so bad even the rockers were entombed and no longer visible. I think a lot of it came down to the fact that they could still run with marginal lubrication and not lock up like a modern engine would. Modern synthetic oils generally leave nothing if you keep up with the maintenance and older oils a light varnish after a while from my experience.
@@mysock351C I worked in an engine machine shop when I was a teen. I was in charge of tear down and cleaning, for inspection. The worst I ever saw was a 79 301 Poncho. When I took the valve covers off, the whole valvetrain assembly was encased in a tar/sludge shape of the underside of the cover. When I showed it to my boss, he shook his head and handed me a putty knife and a 5 gallon bucket. That car ran when it came in, though the oil light was flashing SOS.
You should try to make a complete engine out of a bunch of would be junk parts from other engines and see how long it lasts. Use “intact” wrist pins, “maybe straight” rods, slight “malice in the combustion palace” pistons, and “totally resellabal” water pumps.
Had a Dakota 3.7 in high school and couple years after… I redlined this engine everyday for miles sometimes 15 min lengths. Traveled to every major college in my state etc Water pump, tons of wheel bearings, drifting dirt roads b4 school, cracked headers were replaced under warranty. Also had a cat rot out on me. Same trans some how. Always manual shifted to hold out the rpms. 😂 Sold here running 240k I have a 5.7 gets treated the same way for 200k and going.
The water pump was taken into protective custody by the prior owner. Clearly, it was the only part of this engine which actually mattered to them. I intensely dislike people who intentionally blow up an engine. This could have been rebuilt before he grenaded it, but he thought it was more fun to destroy it. Wasteful and absurd. But, it was interesting to see the inside of this engine. As you said, they are everywhere, and I had wondered what they look like inside. Thanks for sharing.
I had that engine in a Raider with a 6sp manual. That combo did me fine for quite some time. Regular maintenance and it ran like a top. Don't remember how many miles I had on there when I sold that truck. Only one I regret trading in though. The next 2 replacements sucked ass.
I had Liberty with this engine and sold it with almost 300,000 miles. never went more that 4500 miles without an oil and filter change. All recommended maintenance done on schedule. they will last if taken care of.
Got one in my nitro it’s a jasper previous owners original locked up at 210,000. Bought it for $500 in perfect condition other than blown engine. Had some XD rockstars on it. I put a jasper engine in it and 2.5 inch lift. Cut the cats off no resonator just a flow master 40. A little loud but I’m young and it sounds decent. My mustang gt and ram sound better but I love my nitro. First car I bought on my own
Hey Eric I’m the guy who dropped that 3.7l off my names Bob it came outta a 2002 ram 1500 I bought the truck about 3 years ago drove it for one the first day I got it and changed the oil it was sparkling and had only a quart in it so I filled and sent it for a year til it started knocking real bad I parked it for two years then a couple months ago I dragged out fired her up and blew it up then emailed your team to see if yall wanted it the explosion is on my channel in the shorts
Hey Bob! I knew the neglect wasn’t yours, but I never got the story!
Thanks for the donation, everyone should go watch this thing make its final revolution!
Thanks Bob!
Thanks for the details Bob and sorry for the misfortune. It's very disappointing to buy a used vehicle and discover what you did after the sale. Many of us have. Cheers!
@@I_Do_Cars I've never blown a motor. (something called oil changes?) just trannys. It's cool hearing it let go at 5500.
@@I_Do_Cars Send him the wrist pin! As a memento of course.
Be sure to tack-weld all dipsticks on donated engines, Eric loves a challenge🤣
I think they're challenging enough stock 😂😂
@@Utuber-x44
No, no it really needs to be done right, welded that’s best
I think Ray would approve of this comment
@garytull7730 it's been a while since we've had a real dipstick fight lol
Maybe some JB weld on the crank bolt as well!
Eric is some sort of a nut case. I about lost it when he stood on top of the engine to get the oil tube off. 😂
Eric's never heard of OSHA.
Tom and Jerry
Wild E Coyote and Roadrunner
Eric and Dipsticks
The stand is robust
@@howardbrandon11 occupational stuff happens administration
@@kitsuneneko2567 Originally Stopped Harmful Accidents
I had a 3.7 that when i got rid of it had 220k miles on it. Still ran great. Frequent oil changes. Only replaced 1 water pump, and 1 fuel injector in 220k miles. Was solid for me
Agree, had a 2003 sold it 340k, still driving a 2008 with 220k, solid engine. 3k mile oil changes.
@@michaelschweizer4772 Same here, had an 03 Liberty Limited that our Niece still drives with well over 200K and my MIL has an 03 Libby 3.7 going on 300K. Neither ever had any engine or even trans issues. The key is maintenance and not just oil changes. If you neglect the coolant you'll eventually have HG issues and if you overheat them you will have HG issues and possibly drop a valve or two. If you keep them cool and lubricated, they can run for a very long time without major repairs.
@@michaelschweizer4772I have a 08 Liberty with 222k still running strong
17 avg mpg x 5 qt x 50 = 4250 mi
Conventional 4,000 mi OCI
17 avg mpg x 5 qt x 75 = 6375 mi
Synthetic 6,000 mi OCI
I used that formula with the 4.7L V8 version and am at 310,000 mi and counting.
2:11 Liberty Biberty😂😂
Oh god the Liberty Mutual reference
There is a waitress at a restaurant near me named Liberty. I admit I have caller her Liberty Biberty before. She said it happens pretty regularly since that commercial came out!
@sadlerbw9 our dog is named Liberty and my kids call her Liberty Biberty 😂
Man, we have not had a good dip stick fight like that in a long time!
I own one of these in a 2004 Jeep Liberty. So far it's at 140K with zero major issues. It likes to burn through oil, so I never have a chance to forget to change the oil. It's not amazing when it comes to efficiency, but it's an old Jeep, so I'm not surprised.
For what it is this is a surprisingly decent engine. Sure, it isn't very powerful (210 HP, 235 lb-ft), but that's fine for me. In a vehicle the size of the KJ Liberty I don't see the need for much more power.
At one point my coolant reservoir decided to dump coolant onto one of the spark plugs. The engine was still running despite one cylinder being full of coolant. Changed the plugs, fixed the coolant leak (broken inlet on the plastic reservoir), and it's been running perfectly ever since.
As long as these engines aren't overheated they tend to last a good long while.
my cars got 92 hp 101 lb ft but its got a hand shaker!
Same problem here same result.
Yeah that oil burning is going to become a bigger problem for everyone in a ICE vehicle as time goes on. they are using thinner rings to reduce friction to get better mileage out of the cars. Those rings start letting oil slip at around 100k miles. It's considered "normal" by the manufacturers. I miss good ol cast rings.
What a cool way to watch so much sludge, sludge and pistons McNuggets on a Saturday night! Thanks Eric!
I think a teardown of a four-stroke outboard motor would be an interesting video for your channel. It would have a lot of different architecture in the motor from being mounted in vertical position.
That’s a good idea, I second the recommendation
Thirded.
Fourthed(?)😂
It's settled.
If your math from the beginning of the video holds true this 3.1 litre V5 should still be good for 205 horsepower, and be about 16.66667% more reliable.
Dude, such an underated comment 😂😂😂
105 hp. Maybe.
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Here's a little more math that's a bit confusing. The 3.7L V-6 is one liter short of its 4.7L V-8 sibling. Seeing that the only difference is two cylinders, each cylinder would be .5 liters. Eight times .5L comes to 4.0L. Where did the extra .7L go?
@@davinlaroche3029 It's in the rods. That is what a stroker is. Their is two ways to increase displacement. Change the diameter of the cylinder or adjust the rod (to be more precise you change the crank and the rods but you know....) length.
No water pump, what a big money part to be missing!!
That was my 1st thought. 😆
The owner didn’t want his water pump to be abused on the channel. 😂
the water pump probably got reused on the new engine
Yeah what the F bro!! No water pump???
I seen the magnificent crate you packed the 3.6 engine on Ray's channel. What a troll!! You had me laughing the whole he was unpacking it😂
Hey man this is one of the best automotive channels on youtube, i look foward to these engine teardown videos.
And I’m not going to tear an engine apart
Eric, you should petition the 2028 Olympic board to add The Water Pump Toss ! Can't be no worse than the break dancing crap !
And the dip stick pull!
@@Wood_Leroy Olympic dipstick wrestling
As an Australian, I take offence. Well, no I dont. Im actually embarrassed by our entrant and firmly believe that if Eric entered the break dance competition he would have easily beat "Raygun"
Spot On!
Silly tossing competition? Where do we sign?😂
I had one of these in an 07 Liberty. Bought it new and put 175,000 miles on it. Never had a single problem. Damn good running little motor, imo.
Been waiting for this! Love a good tear down on a Saturday night.
Our 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 with the 4.7l lasted for well over 300,000 miles with just minor maintenance, It did meet its demise though because of a Radiator hose decided to burst on the way back from my Wife Dad's funeral. I pulled over immediately when I saw the fluid coming up on the windshield, replaced the hose and 4 gallons of antifreeze later, I fired it up and it bellowed white smoke from the exhaust. I would pull over occasionally and top off the coolant recovery tank and it got us home 65 miles.
So what exactly happened. Did the head warp and bow the gasket or something else?
@MichaelSmith-kr9qw you could of did hg and sent it
@@samarch2189 A little of everything by the time We drove it back home 65 miles and it was burning coolant faster than you could add it. I parked it for 3 years and eventually sold it for $4k. I cannot complain it got us home even wounded.
@@chevydmax237 I could've but I had my 99 and plus I didn't need a Full Size truck anymore. I racked up the miles on driving all over Texas doing Fiber Optic Jobs. One of these days I will buy myself a new truck but I am content driving a easier to maintain 5.2l in my Dakota.
@@samarch2189 Pretty much.
Quality content as always. Thank you
Had the 3.9 V6 Dodge Ram. Loved that engine with a 5 speed manual. Had to trade it in for an automatic truck. I loved that truck. Thanks for letting me see what Dodge messed up my 3.9 with.
What year was that 3.9 truck
I feel like was too underpowered for the half ton.
Eric, watching your videos is a great, entertaining way to learn which engines to avoid and why.
It's a true shame that so many vehicle owners flat out ignore basic maintenance and also never check their oil!
After owning many GM vehicles from the 1980's to mid 2000's- none of which ever used more than a quart of oil in 3,000 miles, buying a new 2009 Subaru Forester with the EJ 2.5 was an eye opener. First quart used in 2,000 miles. Second quart in 1500 miles later and nearly a quart low at oil change time, 5,000 miles. It was consistent with this pattern through 73,000 miles when I traded it in. I hope the person who bought it checked the oil....
I've got a '08 Commander w/4.7L, 243k miles and an '08 Liberty w/3.7L, 214k miles. Both have been excellent, but I change oil every 5k miles and actually take care of my vehicles. Only maintenance have been 2 radiators on each and the a couple water pumps. Liberty likely has a small head gasket leak now...but it just keeps running. They owe me nothing and I'd buy another 08/09 Commander with the 4.7L if I could find a mint one.
Eric, pro tip… everytime you think, “I need compressed air for this job”, do the opposite and grab your shopvac. 😂
Well at least we know the engine stand can hold you and the motor you're working on at the same time @ 6:53
We have a 2009 Jeep Liberty and have almost 210,000 miles on it. So far we haven’t had any major engine problems but it’s definitely feeling its age. The engine surprisingly still feels strong but is burning more oil than it should. I’ve replaced the lifters and rocker arms along with valve cover gaskets and done regular maintenance over the last ten years of owning it. While not a performance machine it has certainly exceeded my expectations.
12 years ago, my Mrs. bought a Jeep Liberty with this engine; 150k miles, 4WD - 45RFE trans. She paid $500 (five hundred) as her better friend wanted it gone. Needed full tune up, valve cover gaskets and a radiator. I use cheap 100% synthetic and an even cheaper filter. 238K miles, still strong runner and after 6k miles, maybe a 1/2 quart low on a change. The only major work needed was at 156K miles when my teenage daughter felt it OK to ignore the claxons, CEL, and temp gauge in the red-red after the water pump DOAed. She drove it about 15 miles all the way home with a most terrific clatter, steam and smoke pouring out. Replaced right side head, new timing kit, gaskets, and I found a "good used" pump that a local scrap dealer had in a large cardboard box full of "good used" pumps! Else, original engine, original trans....nothing but fluid changes and rubber parts. Even has cold AC!
I have a 2003 liberty with this 3.7l, and it has 370k miles. Bought it used with an unknown blown head gasket that I didn't discover until 2 years later when the radiator failed, and apparently, I flushed all of the stop leak out ( the dealership graciously put in for our benefit unbeknownst to me) when I replaced the cooling system.With lots of maintenance and repairs it's still going strong. It wouldn't have been worth it; though, had I not done all of the repairs myself...
I have learned so much about how engines work by watching your channel. I have also learned how engines fail and the clues to knowing what failed. Mostly I have learned that oil changes make a huge difference.
Eric is just the best on Saturday night. I have enjoyed your comedy for so long.
Thanks for the Saturday night entertainment Eric. And to the mystery donor, thanks for donating the engine so we could see the malice in the combustion palace.
Friend bought a Cherokee with one of these engines, had blown head gaskets. Engine was over 300k, had synthetic oil all it's life (plus regular oil changes). Engine looked like new inside.
I enjoyed watching someone else take one of these apart, so much fun.
I had one of these in a 2008 grand cherokee. I beat the piss put of it and it took everything for over 50k miles 😂....but yes. Maintaining it is key and NOT over heating it is key.
also had one in an o8 GC. loved mine, got around 20 mpg and it had adequate power, and i liked how it sounded.now i have a 4.7
@@drewsey5733 nice. I was looking for a 4.7 GC for a while but it's hard to find one these days that isn't clapped out.
we have one on a rental liberty it gets thrashed everyday. almost 200k runs good.
@@alexgoldstein7997 I bet. I've seen a lot of them at 250 to 300k plus miles.
Maintenance is always the most important, if you take care of your stuff it’ll take care of you
As a huge fan of the channel, the steady increase in production value of your videos over time has been particularly beautiful to appreciate 🙏🔥
Had one of these in a Liberty I picked up for cheap a few years ago. It threw rocker arms on a regular basis, I finally put little washers as shims under the lifters to tighten up the tolerances. The Jeep ran great after that, ended up giving it to one of my nieces for her high school graduation.
As a owner of a 212k, 3.7l Dakota, I can tell you it is not the engine I worry about, it's the drivetrain! Engine runs like a watch, no missing fluids and great response and mileage. Already did the U-joints due to clunk, carrier bearing, rear wheel bearings and a pinion seal. I also had to adjust my pinion bearing preload during this servicing. Now as we get to the transmission that is where my trust wavers a little... the 42RE isn't outright bad but not the best thought out. The "adaptive shift" plus the "shock-absorbing" torque converter thing causes more harsh shifts than it seems to help during those times it was intended for. Tows okay.. We'll see how long it survives, but I know the engine has another 100k easy. "oil is cheap, engines are not!"...
The hood old 42re, it either shifts like butter and you forget it even upshifted, or it shifts like dogshit and you feel like you just got rear ended.
Hi Eric, Thanks for this teardown! I have a 2005 Jeep Libby 3.7 V6 with about 80K miles. fun to see what all is going on inside! (beautiful timing system... no wet belts!) luv my Jeep. Oil change just moved up on my todo list. 😀 Keep up the great work!
The skits with chains, guides and water pump crack me up 😆🤣
Skits?
Eric, you should collect the broken pieces out of blown engines and sell them in display cases for the viewers to buy from their favourite teardowns! Love the videos keep them up 🤟
Loved your comment of the exploded view of the piston pieces. Thanks for sharing. Epic dip stick tube removal fight!
One man's trash, is another man's treasure.
One man’s trash, is another man’s video content material 😊
One man’s trash is another man’s garbage
Really nice job! I need to do guides and timing parts on my 3.7L. Great perspective to see how it goes together! Thanks Eric!
I would love to see you tear down a 2.4 SRT4 that came in the 2003 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT with the aluminum intake. If you can get your hands on one. Great video as usual.
My buddy had a 2007 Ram 1500 with one of these in it. He and I worked on that truck quite a bit, and while a lot of other things broke (including the dipstick tube, a real pain in the ass as you saw), two things we never had to touch were the engine and transmission. They both still worked well at nearly 200,000 miles when he got rid of the truck. I can't call it a bad engine, but that's just my experience.
I know what's wrong with it. "It Ain't Got No Gas In It"
I know what's wrong with it.
MOPAR MO'PROBLEMS HAHAHAHA
In this case...
"It ain't got no oil in it"
That's what murdered this motor..
Got a 2004 Jeep liberty with this engine. Has 178K miles and still running strong. On a second transmission and a few value cover gaskets replaced and O2 sensor. Had it over 10 years, only gets high milage full synth. Keeps humming along.
Hello Eric,
I think you do a great job little dry humor, and fun while you work. In this video, I see you removing a valve cover and seeing a lot of sludge you don’t know what sludge is back in the 50s. I would be taken apart for my father With overhead valves and when you remove the valve cover was actually full of sludge except for the grooves where the rock Arms made their own path. These valve covers felt like they weigh 10 pounds. This is before high detergent oils. Just thought this might give you a chuckle.
I love the concept, I reckon you can improve on that chain rail disposal technique.
Thanks as always Eric, the best part of every weekend!
That was a mess...the short of it's demise is great too!! Thanks for making my weekend complete Eric🙂 That wrist pin got hammered badly..yikes.
I didn’t know about you until today. Great content
I got a 4.7 powertec V8 with 294,447 miles on the odometer. Still running strong enough to smoke the tires. It's by no means the Magnum 5.9 in my 1999 Dakota RT but it does have decent power in it does move pretty well and gets crap gas mileage. I can't complain only thing I've ever done is change of water pump spark plugs and a battery still has the original serpentine belt on it
im not a car guy or even into cars but these videos are so soothing to watch
Always nice to see a do-it-yourself engine rebuild kit in the oil pan!
I owned a 2003 Jeep Liberty Renegade with a 5-Speed and that 3.7L "Minivan motor". I had that Jeep for over 10 years and 163,000 miles. Still my favorite vehicle ever. For the record, I never had to replace a window regulator or a LBJ!
The minivan motor was the 3.8 Chrysler put in the Wrangler.
This one was only fitted to RWD biased vehicles.
2002 Liberty, about 180K miles. HAVE replaced all the window regulators AND a left lower ball joint AND right upper ball joint/control arm. Still think it hasn't been bad. Keep oil in it.
The humming like a doctor inspecting behind the timing cover would be funnier if you lifted up on a tensioner and told the engine to cough. Lol
Have seen myself that the 4.7 and 3.7 are not really that bad, but they will NOT accept several items. 1. Clean oil, end of story on this item. 2. Heat, if you get either hot, you are in technical terms "FUCKED". If you start getting crank and cam position error codes, simply change the timing chains sprockets and tensioners. I have a 4.7 and changed the cam chain system by myself in under 8 hours by myself, and could have knocked off a couple of hours if I stayed out of the coffee pot, sorry am retired Navy and coffee is a MUST. Sorry these engines are far from powerful, but if you take care of them properly they will last fine.
My 4.7 has survived two overheating episodes when the upper radiator hose popped off. Still runs great at 195,000 miles.
@@user-pgchargerse71 My 4.7 barely breached its head gasket because it took a rock through the radiator and I didn't notice in time. I drove it for years without realizing it. As it aged I realized revving over 4K for very long would blow a hose from combustion pressure getting into the cooling system. It never overheated again and barely consumed any coolant (steam out the tailpipe when cold and then it would stop). I finally replaced it with one I built from a set of reconditioned block, crank & heads at 190,519 miles. It was over a decade with a leaky head gasket and the first half of that didn't give any symptoms for me to notice.
@@user-pgchargerse71 Some people have all the luck, not me however. The only lottery I have ever won was the draft lottery. Have performed regular upkeep and have 180k miles so far.
Yeah my friend had a 4.7 in a Durango. It had a blown head, so we bought some head gasket sealer from autozone to hold him over until he could find another one. It only lasted a few months, but thankfully he found an OBS Tahoe.
I love and still have mine. I did go through an extreme overheat mishap. Crap chinese water pump failed. On the hwy 112degs on a thursday. BUT! Motor at around 250,000miles. Frame at 330,000. I continued driving it to clear the ramp. Let it cool. Drove it again off and on to get a clear location for tow pickup..damage on the heads was def done. Did not drop a seat miraculously. Replaced pump on the road And still hauled a rock trailer and managed to drive back the same weekend after the job was done. 3 hr drive same heat. Had to stop in between due to pressure build up in the coolant system. Made it 2 more days on tuesday the pressure was too great cracked the plastic radiator. Went and got new heads on same motor...and im back on the road...with a billet all metal water pump this time. 😎. Not the funnest to take apart not at all. Vs the ohv of a 5.3 is a breeze. Mule of a package in a moderate compact frame tho and not a mall shopper.
Hi Eric
Love you channel I am watching you from Denmark it is so relaxing to see you tear down
Best regards Morten søe
“Depends on what day of the week it was built on”
Eric, that is definitely true, at least to a certain extent 😅👌
Definitely a great training video. Thanks for posting.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Well…it’s not every day you see an engine that blew up with that much carnage that doesn’t have a ventilated block!
I WAS JUST IN THE LOU. Saw the Arch and all. Happy Happy Joy Joy
I find it hilarious that people get upset over chunking the water pumps in the trash. No intelligent person would reuse a water pump and risk it being the failure point of an engine rebuild when they aren't that expensive and make as much sense as replacing the thermostat while you're in there. When I rebuilt my 04 Passat's 1.8T AWM engine, I replaced everything I could afford to replace and all must change items like tensioners etc. Turbo, all wheel drive 4Motion and 5 speed manual are a fun combo.
I've been using Autolite Spark plugs for years and have never had any problems whatsoever. They are damn good plugs in my experience. Not a single plug failure in over 35 years of building vehicles from big 4x4s to drag boats and everything in between.
I've never had problems with their copper series ( read regular plugs) but I have had some Fords that wouldn't run right unless the OE spec replacements were installed.
I'm selling my 3.7 Liberty Biberty right now actually, ironically the engine is the only part that never gave me issues... just everything around it. Always wondered what they looked like on the inside. Certainly one of the MOPARs of all time
'04 4.7 WJ off road rig. 170,000 easy miles. Take care of the cooling system and change the oil.
It's been a month of Saturdays since we have had a good dipstick battle. Excellent!
"Junk in the sump" is now part of my common parlance. Thank you.
Really enjoy your videos and your comments
That is one angry pickup 😂 28:20
Like an angry child with a hole in his head 😂
Man you talked about the Dodge Magnum 3.9 and I would absolutely love to see you tear down any of the Magnum engines. Especially a 5.9
The 3.9 V6 that preceded this engine was a much better and more reliable engine, and the 5.2/318 V8 that it was derived from was a much better engine than the 4.7 V8 that this 3.7 was derived from.
Never been this early to miss the water pump segment of the show
Always entertained by your videos Eric. Keep them coming! What is the brand of the work light you use in your videos? Thanks
I had a 3.7 jeep that had 240,000 on it when I sold it. Currently driving a 4.7 Durango with 290,000. They're like anything else, all depends on how you care for em.
You seem to be a bit of a clucks dropping everything! Its very entertaining. I am a retired mechanic who worked at Jeep for 11 yrs. If you did the basic service these motors would do pretty good!
Man it's been a while since we've had a good dipstick tube fight. Good show 👏😂
I have a 3.7 in an '08 grand Cherokee, and it has 250K miles on it, and the only thing I have done to it other than regular maintenance, is a water pump (gasket was leaking) and a crank position sensor... thing runs like new and I wouldn't think twice about driving it to the west coast and back from the midwest.
Look how clean the outside of the block is!!
I learned 20 years ago, buying a junk yard motor, that was oily and dirty, wasn’t over heated.
Over heated engines, the oil and grease is cooked off, the exterior of the engine.
May be nonsense, but, I’d rather fix oil leaks, before installing a used engine, than one that requires machine work. Cause of warped parts.
Ahhh I wish I knew that a few months ago. Got a "good deal" on a low mileage "running" engine that ended up having a very blown head gasket. Coolant pooled in one of the cylinders and rusted the bore. .20 over, freshly decked and new heads. Runs great now
Hmm, what I miss is a close inspection of the rod bolts. They could have told you if there were signes of fatique. The engine was indeed poorly maintaned, but,to me, it did not fail to oil starvation. I think most people are interested in the a thorough cause and effect analyses and so a clear construction of the destruction-movie.
This was an Ej-3 level destruction.
I do like the longer pauses in the videos. "For dramatic effect" 😂
i have A jeep with the 4.7l, and when we got it, it was taken care of poorly and was really sludgy. not as bad as this, but it was really varnished. had to doctor it up to 149k mi when it dropped a valve seat in the driveway. (it did so rather peacefully and did it on a friday...letting me figure out plans to get it to a shop)
the whole jeep in general was mechanically taken care of like crap by the prev owner (every fluid stunk and was eithr burned or WAAAY too dark) so..its hard to blame it. ive put a new motor in it now, and its mostly on offroading duty. but in that aspect its been great. nice and torquey, never have had overheating issues..and its worth the silly looks i get on the trail when i'm with a bunch of wranglers
5:35 Still not as bad as an old 305 or an ancient Ford 300 (or just about any engine from that period for that matter) that had asphalt for oil. Usually they even came with their own aftermarket sludge crank scrapers and windage tray, which was for the better as the thing only held a quart or maybe two on a good day when you could drain it.
I certainly don't recall oil being that bad, but by the time I began to drive, we are talking the early 80's and oil was not nearly that bad by then. Yes, drove a '74 Nova with the 250, a 78 with the 305, a 78 Fairmont with the 300 and my first car was a '68 Newport, 383 and torqueflight no less. Don't recall sludgy engines in any of them. All of these were used and at least a decade old when I got them.
Then went subcompact with an '83 Honda Civic 1500 DX hatchback, an 88 Honda Accord with the 2.0L 4, then a 92 Ranger with the 4.0L V6 and currently an '03 Mazda P5 wagon with 200K fast approaching and it still runs moderately strong.
@@johnhpalmer6098 The older non-synthetic bases were not very stable. If you changed it religiously every 2000-3000 miles they did ok, but most people didn’t and some of these engines would still go for hundreds of thousands of miles like that. I had an old 305 I took apart that was so bad even the rockers were entombed and no longer visible. I think a lot of it came down to the fact that they could still run with marginal lubrication and not lock up like a modern engine would. Modern synthetic oils generally leave nothing if you keep up with the maintenance and older oils a light varnish after a while from my experience.
@@mysock351C I worked in an engine machine shop when I was a teen. I was in charge of tear down and cleaning, for inspection. The worst I ever saw was a 79 301 Poncho. When I took the valve covers off, the whole valvetrain assembly was encased in a tar/sludge shape of the underside of the cover. When I showed it to my boss, he shook his head and handed me a putty knife and a 5 gallon bucket. That car ran when it came in, though the oil light was flashing SOS.
You should try to make a complete engine out of a bunch of would be junk parts from other engines and see how long it lasts.
Use “intact” wrist pins, “maybe straight” rods, slight “malice in the combustion palace” pistons, and “totally resellabal” water pumps.
Gotta love the unset JB weld and then the weekly visit of Uncle Rodney and Aunt Beryl
"cam craps!" you never disappoint Mr Eric
I`m surprised there wasn`t a new inspection port in that block.
Had a Dakota 3.7 in high school and couple years after… I redlined this engine everyday for miles sometimes 15 min lengths. Traveled to every major college in my state etc
Water pump, tons of wheel bearings, drifting dirt roads b4 school, cracked headers were replaced under warranty. Also had a cat rot out on me. Same trans some how. Always manual shifted to hold out the rpms. 😂
Sold here running 240k
I have a 5.7 gets treated the same way for 200k and going.
Near 24.:50 I realized it was a good thing you didn't become a veterinarian. Me too. Enjoy your videos.
Nice video as always!
Are you trying out a new editor (person)?
The water pump was taken into protective custody by the prior owner. Clearly, it was the only part of this engine which actually mattered to them. I intensely dislike people who intentionally blow up an engine. This could have been rebuilt before he grenaded it, but he thought it was more fun to destroy it. Wasteful and absurd.
But, it was interesting to see the inside of this engine. As you said, they are everywhere, and I had wondered what they look like inside. Thanks for sharing.
I had that engine in a Raider with a 6sp manual. That combo did me fine for quite some time. Regular maintenance and it ran like a top. Don't remember how many miles I had on there when I sold that truck. Only one I regret trading in though. The next 2 replacements sucked ass.
28:25 - That pickup tube looks like an angry emoji. I'd also be pissed off if I was treated like that by my fellow engine components. 😂
Hahaha, I thought the same thing.
My father has one of these engines in a Jeep Grand Cherokee. '06 if my memory serves. It has about 303,000 miles on it.
I have 05 liberty with a 3.7 just turned 200,000 miles still runs like a champ never done anything special except change oil
I had a 1988 Dodge Dakota with the 3.9 V6 , no overdrive , no cruise control , sold it with 400,000 miles on it and still ran great .
The old push rod 3.9s were pretty much gas oil and go. Change the oil and coolant and not much would go wrong.
I had Liberty with this engine and sold it with almost 300,000 miles. never went more that 4500 miles without an oil and filter change. All recommended maintenance done on schedule. they will last if taken care of.
Looks like AMC/Jeep really liked Ford's Pinto cylinder head so much, they made a V6 and V8 version of it
The land of rings the one bent rod to rule them all 😅
Got one in my nitro it’s a jasper previous owners original locked up at 210,000. Bought it for $500 in perfect condition other than blown engine. Had some XD rockstars on it. I put a jasper engine in it and 2.5 inch lift. Cut the cats off no resonator just a flow master 40. A little loud but I’m young and it sounds decent. My mustang gt and ram sound better but I love my nitro. First car I bought on my own
That’s the best dip stick war we’ve had in a while! Hahahaha
Now I want to pull up outside Autozone and order piston nuggets just to see what they say.....
Make sure you tell them what trim level and 2 or 4WD or they can't look em up
Exploded view of piston is priceless