TOO MUCH OIL! Jaguar 3.0 Supercharged Engine RUINED! Insurance Fraud!?
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Here's weekly dose of your catastrophic engine forensics! Every week you can find a new teardown of some abused, misused and/or poorly designed engine. I've got over 160 videos of failed engine teardowns on this channel.
Today's engine isn't your classic lack of maintenance or poor design failure. Nope. This is what can happen when you severely overfill your crankcase with oil. Its not super common, but when it happens it can be just as detrimental to an engines health as not enough oil. This is a 66,000 mile Jaguar AJ126 3.0L Supercharged V6 from a 2017 Jaguar XE AWD. This came from a salvage yard that bought the XE for parts and drained over 9 quarts of oil from the pan, when it only holds 5.7. Its clear by the damage done that this engine ran as long as it could before it nearly seized. Lets take this one apart and find out what kind of damage can be done by this sort of mistake.
Why am I doing this? My name is Eric and I own and run a full service auto salvage business in the Saint Louis area. Part of our model includes dismantling bad and core engines to salvage the good parts from. We do not rebuild engines, merely sell parts to those who do!
I really hope you enjoyed this teardown. As always I love all of the comments, feedback and even the criticism!
Catch you on the next one!
-Eric - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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This makes total sense. It takes 5.7 quarts, but one should round up just to be safe, thus you'd want to put 10 quarts in.
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decimal system.
I'm impressed you have internet access.
I'm guessing 5.7 quarts is 10 liters?
@@edrannou3914 5.39 liter
"People need to stop letting their engines get low on oil!"
"NO NOT LIKE THAT!"
Where's the dip stick?
@@WarriorsPhoto Behind the steering wheel usually.
@@Sigfried033
Usually of course. Nothing like a little sarcasm. LOL
@@Sigfried033and said person may ask “what’s a dipstick?” “My engine requires oil?”
@@evanchapmanfanman 👍
Ok... here's what just happened to my son's car. He took it in to a fly by night place to have the oil changed. When he got the car back it wasn't shifting well, and the check engine light was on. Upon further inspection, the quickie oil change Einsteins drained the transmission fluid and put double the amount of oil in. This is how engines get too much oil... this is why you always do your own oil changes!
This video reminded me of working at a Chevy dealer. 2 corvettes came in at different times, but both were amazing, and they were both burning oil and knocking.
The first was a newer c6, so full of oil, the cams were submerged. Not joking, drained about 5 gallons out out of it. It somehow survived that ordeal. When the service writer asked her about it, she said her husband said to "fill it with oil, and it just wasn't filling." I wish i could have been there for the conversation because the writers face was priceless when he told me what she did. It stopped smoking after we pulled and cleaned the exhaust and replaced the converters.
The second was an older c6, very unique "Fast and Furious" style "mods." This car was also from the city i lived in at the time. "Customer states engine sounds like a metal maraca," it did. After some back and forth with the owner, we found out he "races" it. And his buddy that has raced them for years recommended increasing the oil volume in the engine. Too bad he missed the part about the larger oil pan. That car got pushed out, and a flat bed took it away. We never saw that car again, but I did see the guy with a foxbody a couple of months later.
I bet what happened was the oil leak on the front of engine caused low oil. And the owner kept driving the car until he started hearing a knock. They then were like oh shit, I need to add oil. They just added a bunch of oil and could find a dipstick, so it was overfilled. They then kept driving and realized it was getting worse, so they committed insurance fraud to get a new engine like you said.
Insurance is the real fraud
exactly what I was gonna say. That's not the result of over full oil.
Shops are using vacuum pumps to remove oil but if you don't measure what you get out. It's hard to get an accurate oil level reading. Car needs to be idled to operating temp shut off and checked while still warm but drained down.
My first thought too. NowI still don’t know what happens wgen you initially overfill. Hang on. Shall I try with my daily driver? What can go wrong? Over lubrication?
Thing is that there is an oil level sensor there at the bottom of the pan. Measures oil level before the starter is engaged to start it on the first cycle of starting, then displays on the display oil level. With stop start the sensor only operates during initial start, disabled if the start is too fast. However it does not work well in operating engine, due to the oil splashing and foaming, or if there is glitter in there, though it also has oil contamination sensing (check oil for conductivity, conductive oil either is water condensed there, or very carboned up oil) built in.
Likely is the owner ignored the oil level warnings, just got in and thrashed the cold engine, and also likely did not bother doing any servicing, leading to the oil being contaminated, and also being used up in blowby into the inlet. So drove it till the oil pressure warning came on, and the vehicle ECM refused to allow engine starting. Then turned off and saw the low oil warning, so dumped in a full 5 quarts of oil, which was still low, so added another 5 quarts of oil, as again no dipstick, but now oil level warning is off. Then proceeded to drive it, and as the knocking grew worse, figured that they are well under water with the likely cost of replacing the engine ( JLR not going to rebuild a engine doing the macarena at idle for sure), plus likely still owing around half the original purchase price, but now it is valued at scrap metal rate of 2c a kilo as mixed. So decided to instead slam on the anchors on the highway, and be given a love tap from the rear, in the hopes insurance will scrap the vehicle, settle the loan, and they come out owing nothing, and with still good credit score, or at least not any worse credit score. Hope they did not get that payout, and the driver that hit them was in possession of a dashcam, or that a witness got this on dashcam.
Many thanks for the video, Eric. Yours is the only channel I really look forward to every week - I've watched them all. Please keep up the excellent work, I really appreciate it.
Very strange the bearings resembled lathe swarf. That was the first thing I thought of when the oil pickup was shown.
A friend of mine who actually works in the crash test department for Jaguar has confirmed that is the reason this is the same size as the V8, also that parts compatibility was a massive cost saving allowing them to keep the price of the vehicles down significantly.
Makes sense, but for a car at that price level (new) I don't want an engine that's so full of compromises and cost savings. Which is too bad, I like both V6 engines and Jaguars. Got an old Jag myself. Was considering getting an F-Type S a few years ago, but the more I looked at that V6 engine the less I liked it and decided to keep my old car instead.
Cheers!
small time indie luxury car company jaguar cant afford the costs associated with making more than 1 basic block design
@@C64SXFuel economy, taxes. Simple
Low price? Ha😂
What impressed me was the "four bolt mains" on krankenstein
First you wanted us to add oil, now you want us to take it out, make up your mind.
Sooo deluxe the oil with water? Okay half and half.
@@jordanalexander615 Broooo, don't say that.. Some people will see these comments and take your seriously..
@@MrEditor6000 people that would take it seriously shouldn't e allowed to touch their engine. They should have a mandatory class in school called common sense but call it something less insulting so people don't feel bad. Maybe adulting classes.
@@jordanalexander615 Ha ha perhaps.. but the target audience would be people trying to save money who end up costing themselves FAR more money
Seen that before mk1 nissan micra driver filled it to the top he never seen the dipstick 15 ltrs, later when he started it , it blew the filler cap off the car still went oil 🛢 and smoke everywhere drove it to my place 5 miles bloke was upset when I laughed at him 😮
Remember, if you are losing oil, the more you add the longer you can go before adding again. The more you know.
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I used to work with a guy that never had to get under his car to do an oil change. In the span of a week the engine would leak enough that he could cycle through what would be an entire drain and fill. I don't know if he ever bothered with changing the filter.
@@aland7236 I knew a guy like that. He knew it was just a beater that needed to last one more winter. He changed the filter regularly and topped the oil up daily.
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@@Ghaustermy Mazda was like that. But it was the power steering. I'd just fill it with water every morning and by the end of the day, it would be empty again. Worked for a few months.
Eric, as always, another great vid. And, thanks for the explanation. I was wondering how overfilling could/would destroy bearings. You have cleared that up for me!!
Overfilling didn't destroy it, don't believe everything u watch on TH-cam lol. Like others posted, low oil caused it then was overfilled due to no dipstick. Typical clickbait titles...
Jaguars with the exception of the Lucas electrics were actually pretty neat to work on engine wise. I mean the v12s had like 30 head bolts a side but the block looked solid and you didn't need to be an engine wizard to wrap your head around it. Now you need every tool under the sun to work on one.
Worked on a few sixes many years ago. Apart from "Lucas the prince of darkness" (Australian name for Lucas electrics) they were really well made.Valve adjustment was a mongrel though.
Love my xjs v12. Been good to me for the past 15 years
They're basically a jaguar straight six times 2, they're OK engines. Kind of a waste of time when you consider how much refinement v8s got and jaguar had 0 money to upgrade it. Really cool though. As far as limits a v8 can be pushed harder because of crank harmonics, practical rev limit is 8500 on the v12.
Also 30 bolts a side isn't anything special for an old design, a sbc has 17 bolts per side that's 4.25 per cylinder, so x6 and a v12 sbc would have 25.5 bolts per side. Modern TTY fasteners letting us get away with just 10 per side on a v8 are a miracle.
@@SPAZTICCYTOPLASMI've owned and worked on plenty of Jaguar v12's and currently own two v8's,one old and one very new.no V8 matches the silky smoothness of jags V12.
You people are so idiotic when it comes to brand loyalty. .The only thing about this car is a Jaguar is the Jaguar emblem. Jaguar went under AGES ago, They it was part of British Leyland, THEN FORD bought them out in 2000 and they are now made by the Indian company TATA motors. My Sears Kenmore says Made in China by Matsushita Electric. That's Panasonic. Companies buy and sell their nameplates daily. Wake up. You nit wits are probably paying EXTRA for Braun Products, even though they are made by Proctor and Gamble. Jaguar and Land Rover have been made by TATA MOTORS of INDIA for quite awhile now. PHEW
I'm betting they kept putting oil in it till the noise was muffled from the crank being completely submerged in oil, lol.
hahaha, use heavy oil as well
@@ghostrider-be9ek 20w50
@@fyler1 why stop there? 80-90 gear oil works best.
Really?
How much oil does it take to quiet the engine down?
Wait, the crank isn't normally submerged in oil?
I had a customer that liked to “self medicate for recreational purposes” come into a Mazda dealer I was working at with an excessive smoking issue and lack of power. Him and his stoner buddies had changed the oil and filled it up. Literally filled the engine up. 10 ish quarts of oil in a 2.3L Mazda 4 banger. It was blowing oil out of the egr valve and had torched a hole through the plastic intake manifold, charcoaled the exhaust manifold and down pipe.
Also the words you were looking for are drill shavings. Spiraled up metal looking like that are drill shavings. Keep fighting the good fight Eric. Love your channel.
Swarf
Damn hippies
The machinists I’ve worked with would refer to them as curls.
I HATE how manufacturers are doing away with dipsticks. My 2020 Chev Colorado did not come with a dipstick for the trans. I bought an aftermarket one (yes you can get one made for your vehicle) and had it installed. When I check the oil and trans fluid I am not just looking at the level, I am also looking at the condition of the oil/fluid (especially the trans as I do a lot of hauling and towing). When I had the trans dipstick installed I was having the trans fluid changed. We discovered that the dealership had overfilled the trans when checking the fluid levels during the normal oil change. (fluid should just barely come out of the check fill hole, it poured out a quart over what it was supposed to have). I am so happy to be able to check the fluid properly now.
I call the warning lights on the dash idiot lights, cause they only tell you about a problem after it becomes a problem and the damage is already done
I did not know this was a trend. At this rate, vehicles older than about 2018 are basically useless commodity items at absurd luxury prices.
Well its not good but I can understand why from a manufacturers perspective. Cant be a large percentage of people chcking their oil level anyway these days.
I believe most are doing away from trans sticks.... Its a great way from keeping the idiots from putting in the wrong fluid... I know Ford and Dodge have been away from trans sticks for quite some time. Not really a big deal for a genuine wrench, but it does take a little more time to be sure the fluid level is where it needs to at.
Actually I feel it is a big deal. To check the fluid on one of these you have to put the vehicle up on a lift and pull out a plug. When you add trans fluid it is even more of a hassle. With the old trans dip sticks it was hard to make a mistake and put the wrong fluid in. you Oil fill access is clearly marked.@@highwayman1218
I always assumed calling them idiot lights was universal and everyone used that term.
Appriciate all the knowledge you pass along. Keep up the good work!
The engineering that goes into an engine is fascinating to me and I love watching these tear-downs. Thank you for taking the time to video this for us, I'd never see these things otherwise!
And the stupidity that goes into ruining this masterpiece of engineering is even more fascinating. 😂
I never get tired of hearing the "SNAP" of the Headbolts. 😊
I want that as a ringtone 😅
Very satisfying.
This one must be a nightmare to work on in the vehicle
A lot of vehicles are being engineered to pull the engine to do anything more than an oil change these days.
@@veleriphon They are doing everything possible so only the manufacturer can work on it.
@@gregoryjohnson9733 "You'll own nothing and like it!" - authoritarian corporations and governments
@@veleriphon This specific issue is mostly the corporations, who buy the government (and the goodwill of consumers apparently) over time
Not saying governments are good. I’m just saying money is power and companies exist to make money. At a certain point they stop being able to fulfill the infinite growth proposition the economy is based upon so they have to find their money somewhere else.
It just so happens that “somewhere else” is return customers (by selling things that break and can’t be repaired at home), the cheapest possible parts sold for the most possible money (one piece plastic thermostat housings and $2,000 headlight housings), eliminating the budget/economy sectors (low margins), and exorbitant prices for vehicles they DO sell.
They’re making money by doing everything other than selling you something with good value for a fair price. I look forward to the subscription model taking over, where people will still find a way to “but what about” their way out of it hard enough that right to repair continues to be sidestepped as a widespread movement.
@@veleriphon It's not any easier for them to do it though.
On a semi-different note. I keep thinking of the conversation with the sales person for when I get a new car going something along the lines of "I'll take it, if you can get me a dipstick for it".
I know it would be dead boring and worth absolutely nothing, but I'd love to see your opinions on the venerable Buick 3800, that engine somehow survived me learning maintenance through high-school and college. I will always have a deep respect for its reliability, ran fine after overheating and poor oil change frequency. Somehow everything attached to it broke first.
Love your videos and your wholesome nature.
Got the same motor rn in my 90 buick and man she runs like a dream 😂😅
@@riostv7497 Amazing engine, it'll last forever. If I could give my younger self advice on it, keep the radiator very clean which will keep your transmission running cool. Cheers!
Voice from one week later: here you go.
Damn he actually did it!
The oil pickup piping looks like a musical instrument. Beautiful!
The waterpump high-dive, I give 9/10 for style points.
Maybe there should be a small portion of the show dedicated to “ water pump toss”.
@@concernedcitizen780 Eric has probably torn down enough engines now to make a compilation video of water pump tossing and destruction.
The oil pan looks like it just came home from the strip joint.
Did you see some remaining hookers indicator on the engine 😅😅😅
Thank you for posting this excellent video. I do remember watching the BMW N54 teardown that you refer to. That too was quite interesting.
Thank you for all of your hard work after work.
Thanks as always for my Saturday night entertainment Eric.
Funny story, I know someone who didn't now much about cars, to the point that they didn't know what a dipstick was. They checked their oil one day by opening the cap on the valve cover. And then they proceed to pour in oil until they could see it. They tried to run the engine that way. You can guess the result.
Someone I know did that to their Honda. Miraculously, they got it running again by draining the excess oil. I love Honda.
@@jacobthecool3000 - I can't remember for certain the model, but I'm fairly certain the person I knew did it on a Volkswagen.
this Jag has no dipstick..... IT SUCKS...
@@jacobthecool3000 Saw the same with a toyota
Sooner or later you’re gonna find that 1.4T Fiat Multiair engine out of an Abarth or 500L I’ve been begging for!
I will!
DUDE SAMEEEE I SEEN A GUY PUT ONE OF THOSE IN AN OLD SAMARI AND IT RAN LIKE A DREAM (idk for how long though but it was super cool)
I've torn one of those down before, the pistons are so small!
Lately I’ve seen alot of fiats.. weird.. so cal
BLESS @@I_Do_Cars
I had this engine in a 2016 Land Rover LR4. Absolutely great unit when it's not ruined by people who can't care for their cars
Just want to keep my car as long as possible. I now change my oil / filter etc. half the recommended distances and my fingers are crossed. Great work.
That may not be nearly as good for your engine as you might think, unless you are going by synthetic oil suggested intervals... then you are probably fine.
At least they used a chain driven oil pump and a keyed crankshaft
and they included all the pistons free of charge!
@@zf9903 Did they? Isn't this the V6 that is made out of the V8 with two of the cylinders blanked off...
At some point I expected the oil pump to be in trouble, but did not expect the rotor SHAFT to be stuck!
@TassieLorenzo it sure does. Same engine block as the v8 but missing 2 pistons. These engines 3.0 takes 8.5 quarts of oils. Not 5.5. Same oil pump, same oil pan.
The spiral machinist's tinsel is known as swarf. Wonderful stuff to step on barefoot.
And I believe swarf is a UK word. At least the first time I ever heard the word it was on a tool made in the UK.
I've always just called it chips.
@@meanderinoranges That's also a common term, especially for mill swarf that tends to chip off rather than spiraling off like lathe or drill swarf will.
You can see with the slightly offset rods on each throw how they came out like swarf. Squeeze the bearing a bit and slice off your excess bearing as it rotates. The British version of a meat slicer.
@@fivendimeca mmm, gonna have to get some of that delicious sliced bearing on my sandwiches from now on
Hey man, I have been watching you forever and your channel is one of the absolute best there is! Thank you so much and keep on sneaking up on dipsticks! And btw it would be really really cool to see you tear down the Yamaha made Volvo 4.4 liter it makes 315 hp in a very compact package, it should be quite cheap and easy to find it was in mid 2000’s s80 and xc90 v8 models.
Love your videos! I've got a '93 Miata in the garage, I'll check your inventory!
Last year I went through something similar.
2016 range rover 3.0 supercharged.
It was starved of oil when the dealer did not refill after a service. It did have a good amount of sludge but the oil pump was still operational and there was no reason for it to lock up. It locked up three rod bearings so fast that it did not even put metal in the engine. You read that correctly nothing else got hurt... the cams, heads and all were fine. It locked up quickly which actually made it repairable.
The rings were awful and it had signs of oil consumption.
I installed new pistons, 3 new rods and turned the crank.
It ran like new. As of now it has around 40k on the rebuild.
I will say I had a hard time finding rods and also with pistons due to the factory installing .5mm over pistons from the factory.
Definitely not a easy engine to get parts for...
[LS motor swap sounds intensify]
@@davidg3944Yea putting an ls1 in a 2016 Range Rover would be super easy you could probably do it in a weekend
Why is that not a repair? This is a youtube post so I did not list every piece or component replaced only those pertinent to the conversation.
Your reply gives the stench of a keyboard jihadi...
One who speaks with a mouth full of dung with little abilities of their own....
It says to put 8.5 quarts of oil for a range rover supercharge 3.0.
@@Moneychain2 Yes that is the spec on it and that is what I put in it.
It was a dealer that didn't refill it after a service that caused the engine to seize. They tried to do a test drive and it locked up due to no oil.
That was the condition that I received it in and I went about repairing it.
my brother once thought his car had a leak in it, so he was putting some in. when i saw him adding 5qts i said 'are you sure about that?' he said 'its still going down good' so i decided he needed to learn the hard way.
well, i didnt realize how bad it was. his 2000 camry had 12qts total in it when the mechanic drained it, cost a LOT for him to fix.
That’s something you do to your father in law not a brother.
Bet he still did not learn anything though, blaming everybody but himself.
feel sorry for your brother
It was out or morbid curiosity that I watched this entire video. As it turns out, it was very entertaining and educational. Great video!
TBF do you really expect a Jaguar engine to run well with no problems past 20K miles even if it is very well maintained! Too much oil in a Jaguar engine is likely the least of your concerns.
I changed oil for a number of years and the most overfilled I ever saw was a Pontiac/Buick 3800 V6 that overflowed a 5gal bucket. They saw 0% life remaining on the misleading GM oil change reminder with no actual sensor and only stopped filling when oil came out the dipstick tube. They said they were expecting to be able to see the oil level looking in the fill hole, lucky that engine has a low dipstick. I can't believe they never at least questioned the cost of that much oil even with literally zero auto knowledge.
It was limped to the shop drove away like it never happened.
These are the highlight of my weekend, always sit down and watch them during breakfast on Sunday morning! Thank you so much! :D
I know. I’m glad I’m not the only one with low standards 😂
I usually turn the chop saw blades around backwards when I cut my oil filters. Less likely to grab and throw. Good video enjoyed it.
My sister went to one of those 10min oil change places and they added about 2-3 extra quarts. Glad we caught it in time.
I had a tech at a dealership double up the oil in my car. I noticed smoke within a couple miles. Stopped, had a wtf moment, then pulled the dipstick and saw how high it was. Went right back and had it dealt with. I've put more than 100,000 miles on the car since. So it's not a death sentence for the engine if you catch it right away.
My grandfather was given the keys to a car that just had a motor job done. Told to deliver it and another guy would swing by and pick him up. When he got there it smelled wrong. So he opened the hood and found the radiator missing. He drove the car right back to the dealership. Said it was glowing and you could see the outline of the cylinders. So they told the customer that parts had been delayed and did the job over. Even 70 years ago. Things went wrong.
Most people don't listen to their vehicle ! Fewer watch their exhaust!
@@flintcoat2596 If you listen they will tell you how they are. It's not English or words but machines talk.
@@QualityCraftsmen They also listen ever heard of engine ears?
Thank you for putting the 710 cap on properly!
Humblemechanic did not go all the way with his Jag engine but then again it had a whole lot of super corrosion in it. Love this channel because you go all the way on the teardown.
Great video, Learned a lot!
Glad to see the green socket is back
Designers take note, please provide a dipstick for both the engine oil and automatic transmission fluid.
any car that doesnt have both is a dealbreaker for me to buy
Accountants: please remove any ‘unnecessary’ equipment to save cost
@@thegreen4me I haven't seen a transmission dipstick since the early 2000s.
Not going to happen, theres a reason they werent included. A reason that wont change back any time soon, I bet.
@@goodfodder Accountants need to stick to staring at spreadsheets & accounting screens. And leave the real world to the real people.
Thanks. Very educational regarding the over fill of oil.
It is -8F at 1:30AM in the burbs of Chicago...and I stayed up to watch this all the way through, why I have no clue but it was entertaining to watch. Thanks....
You seriously need to get a girlfriend pal, you have too much time on you hands to sit and watch this at 1:30 am
What a timely tear down ! Funnily enough, I just checked the oil level in my 2017 F type R and it was overfilled!. Just recently done the oil change, and not having the oil dipstick sucks. Although, I only put 7 quarts (Needs 6.5 for AWD). Going to drain that half a quart now ha.
1/2 quart spread across the area of that pan is maybe 3/16" Nothing to worry about.
You may want to have your oil analyzed with each change. An expensive engine makes it worth tracking wear material - if you see it trending up, time to overhaul or sell...
ISTR that there is an option to add the dipstick, just the manufacturer blanks off the hole in the block, but the rest is there to do it. Saving 100g of metal to meet an EPA mass limit.
No, that engine was never designed to have a dipstick. It is derived from the AJ133 V8 which was designed in 2008 to have an electronic oil level sensor/read out from the get go.@@SeanBZA
Changing the oil on these engines is a huge pain in the butt. You have to the remove the huge skid plate to access the drain plug. The filter and oil are expensive, but my favorite thing is there is NO DIP STICK. My guess is someone had the oil changed, but someone forgot to drain it.... and added another 5qts on top... and since there was no dipstick.. they just assumed
the comp can tell you low in oil ,,,,but not if your over fill ,,,,,,,but good old dip stick YES
You can use a vacuum to remove the oil. And the computer does tell you when it’s overfilled. At least on my 2018 f type.
@@Bodged_Garageyeah only newer cars can detect over filling of oil I know the newer bmws I worked on had that feature
I concur. Like many older people I spent time in my youth working in actual service stations and I've see the same thing happen many times. We always caught it before firing up the car but still, somebody had to pay for several quarts of new oil. The opposite also happens - draining the oil and forgetting to refill the engine. That never works out well, either.
2003 Mercedes computer tells you if it is over filled.
Very good video as usually!
Many years ago when I was a lube tech, I got a newer Buick sedan in with the 3800 in it. That thing chugged so hard when starting and bringing it in. Imagine my surprise when I popped the plug, started draining it into the 7qt bowl stand we had and while doing my inspection, it began overflowing lol. Imagine my lack of shock when it ran beautifully when the work was done and filled with the proper amount of oil. I was amazed it didn't have anything wrong beyond the difficulty running before I started.
I miss safety tote. :(
Safety Tote actually complained to OSHA about misuse, and Eric had to stop abusing it.
I had a 2009 Vino 125 ( small gas scooter ) It had been dropped many times and very poorly maintained, I went to change the oil, it held less the a quart however it filled up half of a plastic shoe box size container and other other quart came out of the airbox ( which was not meant to be oil filled ) how this thing ran at all still amazes me.
Good video! The F type also featured the AJ126... The greatest iteration of the AJ126 was in the F type 400 Sport 400Ps/395Bhp.
Ball hone and rebuild.. sellable block. Great vid Eric 👌
Always enjoy these videos. You always say that’s a nice chain. Save that for later. What do you do with all the chains??
I love your videos! Maybe you could use a torque wrench set at a low 40-50 lbs and on up to give us a idea of how hard it is to turn over the motors?
A beam style torque wrench would be a better option.
Thanks for your great videos.
loving these jaguar AJ engine teardowns. got a 50. supercharged version in my xfr
That is a beast of a car.
love it but its needy. stay up on the upkeep and it will treat you right.
Well it is a high performance machine. Its no Renault, but like all good things in life, they come at a price
I understand the reason why oil aerates when the crank runs through it when over filled. However, it would have to be very substantial since the the windage tray and oil pump area were in the way.
I would think it started having trouble, and someone tried to quiet it with over filling. Also maybe it had already started knocking from the oil leak and they just over filled it? I think you would have to measure the oil level in the pan in relation to the crankshaft weights.
Eric, those have the dipstick holding the steering wheel. I quit buying vehicles with no dipstick for the engine and automatic trans some time ago.Once enough people do that, then we MIGHT see some better design choices from auto makers.
Impressive Evaluation, Sorry that the engine wasn't still good. This is the 1st time I have watched your TH-cam channel I'm gonna subscribe... Good luck👍🇺🇸😇
Awesome video as always
About the fuel line. The engineer's job is to design it. They don't how care how hard of a time or how long it takes the mechanic to replace the valve cover gaskets. Nor do they care what the owner has to pay to fix the repair!
Tell that to a honda engineer
my guess accountants had alot to do with the design not being split
The Dodge hornet has a 1.3 liter engine that puts out 290 horsepower,I wonder how long it will be before you get one of those engines
Dodge makes such a fine product. Eric may never see one……….
It has two electric motors as part of that 290hp. The 1.3l gas engine is less than 170hp.
@@concernedcitizen780 ROFL🤣
Camaro 2.0 turbos are better. 275hp 290tq. Just add an oil catch can
The word for those curly shavings when you drill out metal is "Swarf". Loved this teardown. Everything seemed reasonably 'OK' until you removed the oil pan. Lovely, Sparkly glitter to make the oil look pretty and Whoa! there was just a 'tiny' bit of play on those rod bearings!! There is also the rare chance the car this engine came out of was hit whilst parked. Rear, driver's side corner, it's a possibility. Definitely a 9 out of 10 for the back spin you got on that water pump.
"The word for those curly shavings when you drill out metal is 'Swarf'" or "chips" in most machine shops.
@@krenay3292 They’ll have a few names. I suspect Swarf or Chips could be a UK or American thing. It doesn’t matter what the name is It still piggin hurts if you get some stuck in your finger.
I got my oil changed recently at a local shop that overfilled my oil by about a quart.
Good thing its a 5S-FE powered Camry...
It didn't gaf.
Eric, I seriously appreciate and personally like the way you keep tearing down different engines by different manufacturers, regardless of their damage level. Every week I look forward to seeing -you beat yourself up- your smiling face again! Seeing all of the innards as-is, and the uncommon designs and the unique engineering pertinent to each engine is a goddamn blessing to laymen and mechanics alike. You're the best!
P.S.
Your volume level is still a good 15% below the advertisement volume levels. ;)
Years ago, I was asked to check a random persons vehicle's oil level; It was so full that not one more drop could be added. I shook my head and recommended they drain some of the oil before they blew out a seal. Hard to believe I share the roads with people of this calibre!
How did it not hydrolock at that point
@@GaryTheRCcar Good question. It was so full. My eyes just rolled. I couldn't believe how dumb some people are.
Particularly when they think that they have the road clearance to straddle your house or car.
Heh, I added double the amount of oil needed for my first car, a 1980 Toyota tercel. Yes I was that ignorant. Anyway the car ran fine for about a thousand clicks until driving up a hill one day. Half way up I lost all power and had to go down to 1st gear to get up and out of the way of traffic. Ended up losing all compression in 3 of 4 cylinders. Thankfully engines were plentiful and cheap back then.
@@Intriguing1998 Sadly, plentiful and cheap engines are no more. I remember way back when I went to get an engine for my 77' VW Rabbit. It cost me 20 bucks. The engine was complete with alternator, carburetor, distributor, plus the starter & water pump! The days of cheap gas and safe ass are long gone.
Very entertaining/interesting tear down & engine design. are there other engine brands that have the 2 click head bolt release feature?
I worked for a company fixing copy machines and production printers, and the fleet we drove were Pontiac vibes/Toyota matrix. The newer gen ones only took 4 quarts of oil, but the places we had change the oil almost always put 5. I didn't notice it until I heard about a bunch we had that leaked oil, a lot. I had an oil change and after checked the oil and it was at least a quart over. I went back in and talked to the people and they said the book says 5. I had them check "again" and they came back and said "oh yeah, it does take 4" I paint pen marked that it only took 4 on the core support after that. The over filling pressurized the crankcase, and after nearly 200k miles of being a quart over, they blew seals. We had a few engines get inspection ports because of it. That, and because the low oil light comes on with a half quart in the crank case. Why Toyota, why...?
I drive a 2014 F150 after watching several of these videos, I wish that I drove a 1999 I6 instead, I like & trust simple.
I’m missing the dipsticks, that was the fun part.
Thank you Sir for an interesting video
Great trucks
This also depends on the engine, I've seen GM vortecs overfilled with more than 10 quarts that still ran perfectly fine after filled to the proper 6 quarts
Me! I had one back in 2000. Factory overfill.
Daughter in law filled her engine up with water and wondered why her car wouldn't start. At a busy intersection I drained the water and put oil in. She got home all good. University never taught her about gas oil and water.
No audio Eric 😞 I love listening 🎧 to you get on it as well as watching the video as you make fun out of the work!
I hear dealerships are giving every new Jaguar owner a free bumper sticker.
"The parts falling off this new Jaguar are of the finest English quality".
English? Not anymore - they are just Ford's with some lipstick.
you mean Indian quality.
@@HE-pu3nt You just named all old ass engines. Try something made in the last 30 years for your next attempt at an insult. British cars have EARNED there rep for being poorly made shitboxes. P.s. haha the queen is dead
@@DocNo27 the FoMoCo timing chain tensioner stood out proudly. Never thought Ford would be part of a Jag as a kid.
@@Ghauster Honestly FoMoCo quality control practices *improved* Jaguar considerably on the X308 model XJ compared to the X300 model XJ as far as I know. That's how bad Jaguar manufacturing and quality control was before... British Leyland were not really known for exemplary quality control. More like using outdated production equipment and using tooling until it breaks, instead of replacing it before it starts to deviate from spec. IIRC, Ford invested heavily in upgrading the Jaguar factory with more modern equipment and machinery that would allow for more repeatable and consistent quality.
"Never thought Ford would be part of a Jag as a kid." Previously with the Jaguar inline-six and V12, Jaguar had gone of their way to make sure that the standard Rover V8 would not fit, less a Jaguar have the indignity of a Rover (Oldsmobile) engine! So the XJ chassis had to be redesigned and widened for the X308 when Ford wanted to move Jaguar to the V8 engine shared with the Lincoln LS, Ford Thunderbird and so on (which Jaguar had much design input in of course, IIRC).
Looks like the bearings on the first 2 cylinders were walking out while spinning on the journals and were getting basically cold chiseled off by the opposing rod swiping past them
You know it’s good when Eric says “never seen that before!”
Swarf is the word you’re looking for
I was thinking they broke something due to poor maintenance, had the low oil pressure warning light, and even though oil level was full, just kept adding to it. I didn't think about the aeration of the oil from the level being to high! Learning new things!
It takes a lot of aeration to make it to the bottom of the pan. Suspect the engine was toasted and they overfilled it to hide the mechanical noise.
Perhaps this is a test for myth busters - how much oil does it take to cause massive bearing failure.
Lovely fuel line arrangement there.
Now imagine working on the engine while it is still inside the car.
Lovely.
No way. These engines need to come out.
Just pull the engine and save breaking your back trying to squeeze around the engine bay. Shouldn't be hard for a shop with equipment and trained mechanics.
Eric, it might help to make a GIANT sign for behind you "DO YOUR MAINTENANCE- CHANGE OIL" -- but long before I sent you the filter cutting tool, you've been trying to pound it in. It's ashamed they don't show your videos before every Taylor Swift concert, maybe someone would be informed!! 😢
Especially if they see what oil filters can do to help.
If people did their maintenance Eric might be out of business.
Great content, as usual
When I was in the motorcycle biz (before Eric was born), we had folks who disregarded the oil sight window, and filled their engines to the top of the filler hole. That's when they discovered the crankcase had an efficient breather, which conveniently oiled the back tire. But the darned things would still run, down on power (though one dealer reported split crankcases from it!) Never saw one locked from that (though we had plenty hydrolock from a leaky fuel valve.)
I have one of these in a XF wagon and I keep wondering how hard the 5L swap would be. Maybe someday I'll see
Bearing foil fettuccine. Just keep turning up the radio until the rod noise is gone.
I used to own an XJ12. Every time I had to do a repair, I made modifications to bits and pieces to make access easier. Such as that long convoluted fuel line... I'd have cut it and put in a union just like you suggested.
The engine was shoehorned tightly into the available space, and having to dismantle 1/2 the car to get to something that required regjlar routine maintenance was just ridiculous.
Thanks that was really informative 😊
You should try to get a PRV V6 on the teardown stand.
Yes. That infamous boat anchor. The one that can't get a stainless steel doorstop to 88mph more than once.
I'd be curious too!
One guy who use to work on them new said, "The most unbelievable part of the movie was getting it to 88 MPH." It's to bad because they looked cool. Just needed a much better drive train.
@@Ghauster The most common repower for them seems to be either a 4.3L or a 3800 Series 2 V6, and for similar reasons. Reliable, rugged, compact, and bloody everyone has one in their shed. A 4.3 or 3800 II swapped DMC12 will very readily hit 88 every time one asks!
@@marc-oliviercabot3380 The Restored channel is working on a DMC12. Part one was trying to unsieze it, and then afterwards, dismantling for inspection. Part 2 showed them tearing the engine the rest of the way down. Why that engine is on my mind atm. They didnt really show as much detail as Eric does and I'm sure the engine having TWO distributors...one for fuel and one for spark as apparently it uses mechanical multi point fuel injection...will garner some interesting reactions!
You mean the one that still holds the record high speed on the Mulsanne straight?
Those are bearing pigtails. That's the technical term for them. "The more you know "
1968 455 Wildcat engine. Double over full on oil. After this was corrected there was an odd engine knock. Ran good otherwise. Still had 42 psi oil pressure. Tore the engine down and found the crank broke in the center journal. It was broke in a Z shape so it held together. That was the only problem. New crank, bearings, rings and gaskets. Was still running good 6 years later.
a great education video, Shows clearly what happens when filling to mutch oil.
the cam follower buckets are DLC coated; which is a coating almost as hard as diamond. Its sold as a wonder coating that lasts forever and although it is very hard it doesn't last forever, the problem comes when it gone and the soft metal is exposed underneath, which then gets chewed away rapidly. It caused problems in high pressure VW fuel pumps because it wears just like this. Its also in Porsche's 911 GT3 motor in the valve train because hydraulic lifters don't work at 9000 rpm and the motor is a nightmare to tear down for a shim change. I think Porsche GT3 owners are in for some pain...
911 GT3 owners can afford it! No need to worry about them. Thanks for the info about the infamous VW cam followers.
Huh...a super hard coating. Hard as diamond wearing away???.....did I miss something 😅😅😅
It’d be cool if you kept track of all the fasteners. Nuts and bolts. Get a weight measurement of all the nuts and all the bolts, and display them on-screen at the end of the video. That’d be fun info to guess about, and then have.
You bet... I am amazed at just how many bolts are used on a modern engine😮😮
When I first got my BMW, first thing I did was an oil change and I was shocked to find 9.5 quarts came out when the engine only requires 6.5! Luckily engine still runs fine🤞🏽
Same thing here. 11-12 came out. 7 goes in.
Outstanding video as always. I don't think the metal shavings were swarf from FOD but true metal shavings/ filings from the bearings in the crank and rods. I think the spun rod bearings were using the crankshaft as a lathe cuting operation. WOW!. What was the first failure point? Foamy oil leads to almost seized oil pump? I wonder how many horsepower were used to just turn the oil pump?
48:36 is that a crack on the crank?
These modern engines are efficient and powerful but it sure takes many more parts and management to get there. Definitely not easy to work on them in the vehicles anymore!
I remember replacing the water pump on my 1978 Olds Cutlass 442. Take off the serpentine belt, loosen the fan shroud, unbolt the fan and there is the easily accessible water pump.
Did all that while it was parked in the rental home parking area.
Now I have a 2001 F150 & a 2020 Mazda and I don't even think about doing major repairs.
Efficient in Taking money out of your pockets. Kinda like a new cheaper Ford Broncos. 😅😅😅 People are bitching about it. Yet they are buying them. Just because it's a so called Status symbol.
About 24 years ago I bought a new Chevy ZR2 Blazer with the venerable 4.3 v6. Drove it around for I don’t know how long before I decided to check the oil. When I did, I thought the wrong dipstick was in the motor. The oil was about halfway up. I got underneath to drain it and see - and I quickly overfilled a traditional oil pan. I took about 12 quarts of oil out of the motor. Had to store it in a 5 gallon fuel can. Brought it back to the dealership to complain, they checked it out, made note, etc and sent me on my way. Motor ran fine up to about 86k or so when I traded it in. I can only assume I got one of those Monday or Friday motors, or right during a shift change at the plant and my motor got two factory fills.
Looking forward to the next vid! ❤️